We're Out of Time - Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

In this powerful episode of We're Out of Time, host Richard Taite sits down with singer-songwriter Landon Cube for a raw and deeply honest conversation about his personal journey through substance use, recovery, and transformation.Known for his genre-blending music and emotionally charged lyrics, Landon opens up about the darker chapters of his life—how substance use once consumed him, the turning points that led to healing, and the inner strength it took to come out the other side.Now thriving, Landon shares how he's channeling his energy into what matters most: his music, his family, and building a life rooted in prosperity and purpose. His story is one of resilience, accountability, and the redemptive power of change.👉 Subscribe for more real conversations every week.🔗 All things Richard Taite, We're Out of Time, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa: https://linktr.ee/richardtaiteFor more on Landon Cube: https://www.instagram.com/landoncube/

Musician Landon Cube joins the We're Out of Time podcast. I'm still, like, not satisfied career-wise, really being consistent and making better music, staying true to myself, the type of music I want to make. But in my personal life, I'm 100% happy. Like, I've all my really good close friends. My family, I'm really close with them. I have a girlfriend. I think that's one of the things that, like, made me want to stop, too,

was seeing a lot of artists around the same age as me, just dying. No, looking back, it's embarrassing. Well, I fell asleep in red light. Somehow my foot was, like, on the bright. so I was just there, and they said they were trying to, like, waking up for five minutes. Dude, that's a scar. Yeah, it was, I went into jail, like, with my... Was your foot on the break?

That phase my life's over. We're out of time has reached number three on the Apple Podcast's mental health chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us. Please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of where out of time, share it with someone else you know. Dude, you just let that let us go. and you look like Sam Kinnison. What does that mean?

Do you don't know who Sam Kennyson is? No. You almost laughed like him too. Really? Who is that? Sam Kinnison? Yeah, yeah. It's been love about nine times now.

And it's been real every time, folks. Every time it was going to last forever. Sam Kinnisen is one of the greatest comedians who ever lived. You look like a very thin. version of Sam Kinnison. Oh, shit. Right? Okay. Where's my glasses?

I can't see anything. I tried to do it because I was too lazy to clean up. That's my problem. So, man, what's your name again? I'm Landon Cube. Well, Landon Kubay is my name, but I always say Landon Cube. It's easier. It flows better.

It's spelled Cube, but it's Filipino, so it's Kubi. Oh, nice. Yeah. You're Filipino. Yeah, yeah. Half Filipino, half-late. Well, you know what? This goes to show you how blind I am. What did you think? Everyone thinks like Native American or... I didn't think anything because I was too excited to eat the Dave's chair.

I was so hungry. I couldn't stand it. I mean, seriously, hold on. Hey, man. How are you in? Good. How about you, man? Yeah. Good. Good. So, you got any clue what I am? Not really. I heard something you're like you're friends with Joe Rogan is all I heard. I'm friends with Joe Rogan. I thought I heard that. I never met Joe Rogan.

Huh. What do you? Someone said that. Who said that? I think he was beastly. Dude. Maybe I'm tripping. Maybe he didn't say anything like that. That guy would be piss on me to put out a fault.

That's going to go over well. All right, man. So tell me about yourself, bro. I'm 27. I make music. I produce by guitar, perform, I sing, rap a little bit. But yeah, that's what I do. And you're obviously like the most humble person I've met here. Seriously. Because everybody loves you. Everybody. They all think you're the greatest. Who did you talk to? All of them. All of them. Everybody knows you.

Every kid in high school knows you. All these kids, they all love you. Damn. Yeah. Well, you don't think I have the pulse on the kids today. How did you say that? I got young kids, dude. And they got friends.

Yeah. So you're doing really good. So you've, you had problems with drugs, huh? Yeah, yeah. I've been mostly clean for like two-ish. years probably since like 20 20 well let's go back what what were you using i was like pills was like my main thing like zanx and then that kind of like snowballed into everything else or give it to me because i didn't really like give about anything when i was on zan so right but try everything else and then it all

kind of like well tell me what you're using you get your zans now you're now you're just your uh decision making is a little bit of long yeah yeah and what do you take it uh coke a lot of coke uh drank a lot, did a lot of like whippets and psychedelics and... Whippets? Like, just everything. Yeah, yeah. Fuck that. Oh, I don't go.

Yeah. No, looking back, it's just like, it's embarrassing, but I learned a lot, like, from doing all that and just it's definitely, that phase of my life is over. So it's... How'd you stop? Well, first of all, do you go to jail? Do you any jail time? I got arrested for DUI, so I did like a day, but not like real.

Is that case over? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I fell asleep at 2020, I think. So during COVID? Yeah, yeah.

I fell asleep. Dude, you got pulled over during COVID when there wasn't a cop on the street to save your life? Well, I fell asleep at a red light. Oh, that's... I was just, like, there, and somehow my foot was, like, on the break still, so I was just there. And they said they were trying to, like, wake me up for five minutes or... Dude, that's hysterical. Yeah, it was...

I went into jail, like, with my... With your foot on the break? No, I had, like, burkinstocks on. I had my toenails painted and fingernails painted. Uh-huh. It was just, like, it was kind of, like, scary, but I was just in there with other people that were in for drug stuff, so it wasn't like anything, anything scary. Plus, I was on, like, so much, like,

then I wasn't, like, afraid of anything. Did you remember to bring your hacky sack? No, dude. No. But, um... Your didgeridoo? No, I forgot all that, man. Dude, you're the best.

You're the best. You're like the hippie rapper. You're the only guy. That's like, you've got your own genre. You've got your own lane. Am I wrong? I don't know the only one, but I'd say I have my own.

thing. So how'd you get sober? I just like, I don't know, it took a while. I went on and off a lot. Like I got kind of clean, but went back and then. So you were struggling and you were trying to stay sober, but you could. Yeah, and then finally I had to go to Europe for something. And I was like, I don't want to like take a bag full of pills through customs and like get caught then because it's like that that would be up.

So I just like kind of take. put off of it over like a course of like two or three months. By yourself? Yeah, by myself. Because it kind of, it like gets to a point where like when I really wanted to quit is like when the people around you like don't even like care or like kind of make effort. It kind of like it feels like people I give up on you a little bit. And then it's like why I have to do this by myself completely. Not that I had to do it by myself, but it just kind of felt like that at that point. So yeah, I just, I still had like my pills and I just kind of did like a little bit less and less each day. Like broken half and then broke it down to like half of a half.

And eventually like the before I left I like wasn't taking any. And then, yeah, and I went to Europe and I was fine. I mean, felt a little weird. But, and it took a while to feel like good, I guess, like fully. It's still like a, I think it's still like a struggle. But I think now... It's two years. Yeah, yeah.

It's still like... I'd say it feels a lot better now. But it felt like a struggle for a really long time. But you don't... Are you struggling as far as sometimes trying to stay off the pills? Or is it your heads not completely clear? Because you were on the pills for so long. I think it's more of that.

I'm not like tempted to go back to it now. How long were you doing it? I first started getting into anything. Like I started with like lean, like most rappers in 2017, maybe early 2018. And then pretty much mostly quit everything by like they end at 2022, beginning of 2023. Okay, but you were doing that, the lean and the pills in that five-year

period, right? How much of it were you doing it? Were you doing it every day? Were you taking opioids and benzos every day? Not, not opioids. After the lien, I was kind of like a something I got was like the first first one, but it was more benzos. It was like the biggest problem I had. And that was every day, yeah. That's the hardest thing, man, you get off of it. In my experience, the benzos. Yeah. No, that was every day. I have a buddy of mine that just, spent just over three months here. He was on so much that you had to titrate it off for, I think it was 100 days exactly.

Yeah. Just left yesterday. Wow. Yeah, no, it's definitely, definitely sucks. But no, I made it through that and then just never really. How much were you using? You're at the height? At the height, I was like snorting them and probably like eight,

10 to 10, like bars. Like, no, like 8 to 10 bar. How many milligrams is a bar? Two milligrams. Two milligrams. So like 16 to 20 milligrams. That was like the worst. That was when I got arrested.

And then I come. Did you get arrested? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe it. You know, it's so funny. You're such a good kid.

You didn't get arrested doing anything like gnarly, right? He didn't get arrested doing anything, Marley. No. You get arrested because he fell asleep. So funny. That's like such a fucking me thing. What did you hear? What are you in here for?

I fell asleep. So gnarly. It was kind of, it was embarrassing too because there was people in the cell. It was like probably 20 people in the room. But like bonceton and a lot of the people like knew who I was. And like throughout the day they were like, I think that's him.

And then I ended up talking to them. And they were like, damn, what are you doing in here? And you told them that you were for murder. No, but they were like, damn, you shouldn't be in here. And I was like, no, I got inmates telling me, like, about, like, what I should be doing. But, yeah, and it was definitely a wake-up call. It didn't, like, end it, though. But I think I got a little bit better after that, but not, not, like, fully, you know.

So you're not smoked wheat? No. I smoked a lot of weed since, like, very young, like, around 12, about 13. Right. And after like the Xanax and everything, I think because I was dependent on like Xanax, like anti-anx for so long, when I tried to smoke weed after that, I'd have severe panic attacks, like heart, feeling like I'm having a heart attack kind of. And that never went away. Now if I'd hit a joint, I'm like sitting there like ready to call 911. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, I can't do it at all. Not anymore. There is not very gangster. Not at all. I'm not very against it, really. No, you're the best. So when you were loaded, you were doing your music, though, right?

Mm-hmm. You blow up when you were on Xanax? No, I blew up before. And then I... You blow up before you were in... You got into real heavy... Yeah, I was smoking... a ton of weed at that time.

So when you blow up? Like blow up? 20, end of 2017, early 2018. Okay. That was before you had the problems. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I smoked a lot of weed. That was it.

No, yeah. When I got introduced to it, I mean, I had the money to buy, like, all that shit. And it didn't really help that I could buy as much of it as I wanted. So, yeah. You're lucky. You're lucky, man. You're lucky. You didn't die because you were doing this stuff.

from 2018 to 2022. And, you know, by 2022, fentanyl was in everything. Yeah. You know,

and now it's getting even worse. I mean, all the time. I think it was like 50% of pills and powder, maybe 40%. I don't remember. Yeah,

in 2022, it was laced with fentanyl. Now it's 70%. It's fucking crazy. But even then, when I was doing it, I was pretty conscious of that, and I had like test strips. And I did. Yeah, but I know that it's better than not doing anything, but just for the kids at home. Okay.

You test strip something. Let's say you test strip a pill, right? In different parts of the pill, you're going to have different amounts of fentanyl. Right? And the reason is, is because it's not made by a pharmacy, right? It's not a manufacturer, right? It's the kind. Or in a big vat.

Okay, so you don't know what you're getting in each pill. So if you test one side of the pill, it could be on the other side or it could be in the middle. Same thing with powder. So it scares me. Is it better than nothing? Absolutely. But it ain't, you know, it ain't full proof. Yeah, for sure.

It just scares me, man. Yeah. You don't have kids, do you? No, no. When you're a father, it'll start scaring. Yeah. Good. So you're happy with where you are in your life.

Yeah, I mean, I think I'm still, like, not satisfied career-wise, but in my personal life, I'm 100% happy. Like, I've all my really good, close friends, like, really great people. My family, I'm really close with them. I have a girlfriend. Everything's great in my personal life. I'm still working with my career, obviously. I feel like I'll never be satisfied fully with that. Where do you want to go?

What you want to do? Just bigger. Just bigger performances. What are you doing to get bigger? What do you mean? Well, I want to... And Bill Gates' money, but life's full of disappointments. Okay.

If I want Bill Gates' money, I've got to have a plan. What's your plan to be bigger? I mean, just really being consistent and making better music and keep putting out good music but staying true to myself, the type of music I want to make. How often are you making music? I try to every day. I don't succeed every day, but I try to.

I try to. You write stuff or are you just straight off the head? I'm more right now, but it's all like in the moment. Like I've been doing a lot of my own production, so I'll just play something on guitar and I kind of just mumble stuff on the microphone until like it kind of has a nice melody. And then I kind of write the lyrics to it afterwards. You're writing every day? I'm not going to lie and say every day.

When do you write? I try to, I mean, sometimes I try to. I mean, sometimes I try to force myself, but sometimes I just try to write when I'm actually like inspired to because I feel like sometimes when I try to force it and like sit in my room all day, I just kind of go crazy. It's right. Where do you go? Do you go to a beautiful place?

Do you go to different places all the time? A different place is I go to Lake Malibu where I'll go in hikes. There's a lot of like hikes around me. There's one in Chatsworth I go to a lot. It's this big rock. It's called like a Stony Point Park, I think. But yeah, just places like that. when he knows where to stalk you.

Good job. Eric, why don't you give your address while you're on it? Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, I just try to, like, get out and live so that I, like, don't feel, like, crazy. Like, I'm driving myself crazy. How many hours a week do you think, on the average, you write? Let's go back over the last year.

How many hours a week over the last year? maybe like 10 to 15 hours. Like maybe like a couple hours every day. Do you love doing music? Yeah, but at times I don't, but that's kind of like with everything. You know, I always going to love it at all times.

But it's still like is the only thing I really, really enjoy doing in terms of like creating stuff and like working in general. Like I still have the moments where like it's really rewarding. and then other times where I'd like want to rip my hair out because of it. But it's, I feel like that's kind of normal with music. But yeah, I still love it most of the time. For me, right, I think I work between 16 and 18 hours a day.

And I don't feel like I've worked five minutes. Like I don't feel like I've worked at all. And the reason I don't, is because I created the life I wanted, right? So I've got this new business. I sold a business a while back, and I wasn't allowed to work for five years. So when I could come back to work,

I grabbed all my friends, like 31 of my great friends, and they came from the last place I sold to, start a startup with me. I'm responsible for like all these people that work with me and I'm responsible for the people who I'm supposed to, you know, help get and stay sober. I feel like I've never worked a day in my life because, you know, if there was no money attached to it and there was, you know, if I had all the money, right, to where I didn't need it, this is exactly what I be doing anyway, right?

Yeah. It seems to me that, you know, you love your music and you want to be bigger, right? And so everything in life is a compromise. And so you're just going to have to make a decision because you're happy, man. I mean, you're winning in life. Like, everybody wants what you've got. You're like, no, man, I'm happy. I'm chilling with my girl.

Right? You got it all. You're stoked, right? I mean, if you want more, you got to do more. You know? I can't. And do you know who John Wooden was? John Wood?

I don't think so. He was the best men's basketball coach in college ever. And he said, don't mistake activity with achievement, right? And what that means to me is, oh, you appear busy over there. You're busy, you're a busy little B, but you're not doing anything. You're not accomplishing anything. You are full of activity with no achievement.

And when I procrastinate, right, I fall into that trap. That's why I like what you said. You know, I don't want to do it in my room. I just want to sometimes, I just want to do it when I feel it. Yeah. And if you do it when you feel it, don't stop. Okay, don't let the role killers come, right? you know what a role killer is?

I don't think so. So, you know when you're working and you just, you've been just like, just going at it for hours and then finally, it hits you and you're on a roll and you're like getting more done in that. It's like being in a zone in sports.

Yeah. Right? Same thing. And then your girl will call you, your kids will call you, your ex will call you, this one I'll call you. It's like, you know, I call them all roll killers. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that does happen to me.

Right. Don't get roll killed. The second you're like on it and you see the phone start blowing up, turn it off. That is a blessing. You just thought that was your alarm letting you know you're about to be roll killed. And then you stay on that role until you pass out Because that's where the magic happens, okay? Yeah

You see a lot of drugs during your shows And in the underground rap scene Yeah, I mean there's a lot of people Doing that shit A lot of my like people I've worked with and stuff But not so much like my friends Out of my friends is like kind of just me It's weird. I just don't hang out with like a whole lot of artists and stuff. But yeah, I mean, you see like a lot of artists and a lot of young artists dying and shit sucks. I think that's one of the things that like made me want to stop too was seeing a lot of artists that were, you know, like, around the same age as me, just dying. Because I never never really like wanted to die no matter how like sad or like fucked up.

I was. I never was like, I don't care. I want to die or anything. So. But you said you were depressed or unhappy. I don't remember the word you used, but what I felt like was that you were in a massive depression at some point. Is that true or not true? I'd say it's true just because of like all the drugs and shit. It gives you like temporary happiness, but then it fucks up your body and fucks up your brain. So, but that's why you were unhappy. There was nothing that made you. I think I also kind of just hated the music industry, like the business side of music.

There wasn't anything like severely wrong in my life or anything, but I think that was like new for me because I went my whole life just making music and enjoying music. But there was times where I felt like I had to like kind of put my foot into it because, you know, like if you want something done right, do it yourself. Sometimes I didn't feel like if things weren't be. done right. I had to kind of like, you know, look in and see what was going wrong. Right. And then that, that's, that's just kind of depressing when you make music and then you see some of the shit that happens in the music business and it just like is not as fun as just making

music and the reward of like making music. When was your last show? My last show? Yeah. I did Fremont Street in Vegas in November. Other than that, I did go to Rolling Loud with my friend Little Skies, and I performed with him. But other than that, my own solo show was in November. Who's the guy? Where was that? Vegas. Vegas, yeah.

Where in Vegas? Fremont Street. It's like downtown Vegas. It's like the old Las Vegas. Oh, I love that. Yeah, like the old Las Vegas strip with the lights on the roof. I love it. Yeah, it was sick because I was performing and I saw like,

myself, they had myself like up on the ceiling. The one thing that I've gathered from meeting now probably a dozen guys in your genre is you're all friends and you're all cool with each other. It ain't like when I was growing up and you had east side and west side, you know, gangster rap. This is completely different and you guys have this like cool vibe with each other. And, you know, everybody's doing a gig somewhere, you know, go get your gigs and bring these guys along and work it out and so forth and so on and keep this thing going. You know, you should be able to do something every other week for sure. Well, I think the thing right now, I'm trying to focus more on, like, the music and, like, you know, everything's, like, online and the internet and shit. I think back then it was like touring was like a big, it's still a big thing.

it matters, but I think right now... Yeah, well, I think right now I'm working on, like, kind of putting myself back in, like, the, you know, the spotlight and stuff. Because, like, posting all the time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I kind of hate posting, but I do it. It's, it's, it's, I'm just not a huge social media guy. It's okay.

I don't know how much. Yeah. In fact, I don't even really know what that means. I just set it because I'm a parrot and I'm parroting something. Yeah. But your hand don't know that's like. No, yeah. I'll just, like, set up a camera.

camera and like a film level video of me like singing and playing something I just put the song in the background like just like that um but yeah that's that's kind of where I'm at right now I'm trying to like get um just bigger in that sense like big get my music bigger so that it makes like more sense to go on tour um because I feel like if I went on tour right now, it's like, well, I don't have like a, I dropped the EP recently, but I didn't drop like a full album or anything. How many times you got in the hopper? In the what? How many songs you got ready to release right now?

I mean. That you haven't released yet. That I'm planning to release or like, because I have like hundreds of songs that I've done over the years, but I think I just get sick of them. Like, I'll get really excited about them and then like six months later I hadn't put them out yet. And, like, I made something new that I'm excited about. It's kind of like a fucked up problem I have. Like, not releasing shit.

Well, do you have friends that you can play them for? Because you're not objective about it, and you're too hard on yourself about it, right? Do you have people whose opinions you respect that you can let listen to it and see if that's, you know, the one or not? Yeah, I show, um, I show music to my friends all the time. I have one friend.

It's like pretty much my best friend since middle school, Johnny. I show him a lot of music. I show it to my girlfriend. I trust her opinion because we listen to a lot of the same music. So, yeah, and then, like, people liking stuff, but then I have this problem with waiting so long to put it out that I don't even, like, I'm not excited about it anymore. Yeah, bro, it doesn't matter.

You did it and you were excited about it at some point. and you got to get you got to get certain it out. And if you're stuck, which is all that's happening here, you've got to let your best friend and your girlfriend and anybody else you respect, listen to all of it, and let them tell you what to put on. You can even call the album loved ones, right?

Because your last one's picked out, the songs, that, whatever. I really do think I'm Rick Rubin. I don't stay in my, Lane at all. I'm like the guy who gives people their families back, and then I get world famous rappers there, and I tell them how to do their own. I mean, just out to lunch.

No, I think I just get, I definitely get way too in my head about it now versus when I first started. When I first started, like, I'd finish a song and I'd upload it to SoundCloud. and I don't know now like it just feels like a little bit more pressure and I don't know I think I just I'm still learning how to like manage that okay well all that is is you're a bigger deal and you're not going to damage your brand by releasing okay so that's that's responsible okay but you're stuck

let me give you an addiction research fellow okay um treatment centers don't have addiction research fellows. Universities have addiction research fellows. We were the only ones to have it because I wanted to know. And I wanted to know quickly. But Connie, Dr. Sharf, is the greatest person. And what I did was I talked in to my phone for maybe 40 to 60 hours. I forgot what it was.

It was a while ago. And I said, this is what our book. about going do the outline and do something from this, right? And she's like, no problem. She comes back eight weeks later. She got a whole book, outline book, whole thing. Right. And it took us three and a half hours to read it line by line and discuss everything. And I'd be like, no, no. Yes, perfect, perfect. Babe, is this what we believe really? Come on. Right. Yes, perfect. Perfect. Right. Yes, perfect, perfect. Uh-uh. Perfect. We take the notes, right? And she comes back like three weeks later. And she delivers me the book. And I only want to look at the stuff, the red line. I don't want to look at the whole thing again. I ain't about that. We're only looking at the stuff we are going to change. And then I went through the same process. And then when it was done, she brings it back to. me two weeks later. And she says, okay, let's go over it again. And I said, no. And she said,

would you mean no? This book needs to be perfect. And I said, Connie, there's no such thing as a perfect book. We can sit here and be stuck all we want. Or we can let that fly. And that's it. We put our best foot forward. Okay. You put your best foot forward and then you let it fly. buy. Athens going to be perfect. But you need is you need to get back out there. Okay?

You've got hundreds of songs. You've got to let your people that know better. Okay, do it. I think I use this word on the last guy because he was measured. What was my last boy's name? Prince. Yeah, young bands.

You know young bands. Yeah, yeah. I worked with young bands. We have a song together. Yeah, Young bands was here on Friday. so you just missed him by two days. You should do a song with him. Well, I have a song with him.

Yeah, but, okay, but I ate yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to eat today. Okay, so you should do a song with him. Yeah, I'd work with that again for sure. Do it. And grab all your other friends and do it too. Okay? You guys are all so popular.

You know, it's like you guys should all be doing this together. You guys are, you guys are, you guys are, you guys are, You guys are a, are a generation, right, John? You guys are different generation. I've never seen anything like it. It's so inclusive. And it's like nobody talks smack about anybody. It's all good.

Everybody's good with everybody. I've never seen anything like that. I don't understand it. I mean, I'm hopeful. Who's your favorite rapper? A rapper. I don't know who, like, my favorite rapper is anymore, honestly. I listen to a lot of more, like, alternative kind of music.

I like Dominic Fike. He's, like, my favorite, probably artist, new generation artist. Really? He, like, he raps a little, too, so I guess, yeah, no, he's just, he's super dope. I like his music a lot. Have you done a song with him? No. Why?

I don't know him. I just don't really know. You have your people contact his people. people. I don't know. I think it doesn't always work like that. You're right. It doesn't work like that.

If you don't try, it never works like that. In fact, if you don't try, you can bet it won't work like that. Yeah, but I don't know. A lot of the relationships I have made

have been like organic and I've met the people first and then works with them and I kind of like it that way. And I know it's like... Dude, you're, you know what? You're like me. It's like, I swear to God, I will never get on one of those dating apps.

Okay? I won't do it. This is your version of dating apps. You're not doing dating apps. You're going to meet that girl in the supermarket, whether you like to or... Right? Unbelievable. I actually met my girlfriend at the Dominic Vite concert.

At which concert? Dominic Fyke. He's the only artist, like, since I've, like, blown up or whatever that I've actually paid to go, like, see their concert. concert. And I met her there. I met her through like a friend. Like we met up there. But yeah, I technically met her there. I didn't meet her on the internet or anything like that. Pull up this guy. Let me see who this guy. This guy wants to do a song with you. Look at him. You guys are like separated at birth. Dude, this guy wants to do something with you.

What's wrong with you? Yeah, I just, I don't know. I don't, I never met him. We don't have any like mutual friends or. He knows who you love. call him call him up dude you're not asking you just want to do a song

right you can do it right yeah hey dude look at how happy you just got look at how happy you just got that inspired you just now

you a song with this guy it's going to bring something out of you and it's going to inspire you and just so you know next time some kid calls you and ask you do a song again he answers yes Zach I did it with you

for sure for sure you got anything you want to plug I mean I put out a EP a couple months ago I said a couple months ago it might have been longer yeah it's called a name in the sky it's like a bunch of uh it's like the shit I'm currently

liking to make it's like a lot of the alternative some like emotional there's even a song about like the whole drug situation and being happy to be out of that. I don't know if you heard you should listen to it. It's called 25. 25? Yeah, well, I'm going to hear it.

Can I, you own it? I have a label, so not technically. I mean, I like the 25 one because it's topical that if I'm going to get a call from the late. I have a song called Gone that I really like, and it's still like in the same similar

genre I like to make now. And you've never sold it. It's No, it was independent. It's independent. Because I was assigned to a major label, and then I wasn't for maybe two years, and then I just signed again. So now.

What's the silent? It's a independent label. It's small. They're called like scrappy. Scrappy. It's a small day. I didn't want to do like the major. Why?

Because it's like, dude, it's a lot like, there's just bullshit with the major labels. Like once they are not happy with you, then it becomes really hard to put music out. And obviously, like, that sucks for my mental health when I can't put music out. And that was...

What did you do? It's just they didn't, like, want to pay for anything. Like, it was just, like... Like, producer fees and stuff like that. Like, it's just they... Or that or they just plain wouldn't respond to me a lot. And then eventually I got out of the deal. But it just got to the point where I was, like,

I guess shelved, you know? Have you ever heard that with like a little system? Yeah. They just like stop giving, stop kind of responding to you. So it's hard to, you can't, you can't just upload the music yourself. You guys got to put a clause in that thing for an anti-shelved clause. Like when they like, right? I mean, I'm sure that's a thing.

I don't know. I mean, I don't know. The contracts are like this big. Right. And I don't read them. My lawyer does. Yeah. All the contracts are usually like the same.

So the lawyer is. Well, you're going to get hosed. Yeah, the lawyer's not going to sell you everything wrong with it. There's a lot of stuff in it, but the lawyer's not going to tell you every thing that's fucked up. He'd be here all week. Yeah. Because it's all skewed towards them.

So that's kind of a bummer. Yeah. That my man. How do people reach you? Reach me, Instagram, Lanham Cube. TikTok, Lanham Cube. I don't use TikTok all that much, but Instagram mainly. Yeah.

Did we leave anything out? Is there anything that you wanted to say? No, man. I think we covered a lot. Thanks for coming. Of course, man. Thank you for having you. See you next Tuesday.

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