We're Out of Time - Mattox: The Kid Who Went Viral and Shook the Game

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

He had a mic, a SoundCloud account, and a fidget spinner — then the internet lost its mind. In this raw episode of We're Out of Time with Richard Taite we dive into how Mattox exploded out of nowhere, backed by the gritty underground rap scene. From viral fame to being raised by a teen mom who had him at just 14, this is the wild, unfiltered story of a kid who turned internet chaos into a career. Buckle up — you don’t want to miss this ride. For all things Richard Taite, the We're Out Of Time podcast, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa: https://linktr.ee/richardtaite For more on Mattox: https://www.instagram.com/mattox/Key moments from this conversation with Mattox & Richard Taite. Intro 00:00 Turning Life Around 01:00Mattox's upcoming projects 03:55 Mattox goes viral at 11 years old 05:46 Bronny James helps Mattox's song go viral 14:59 "They don't speak English, but they knew the words to my songs!" 24:08 Mattox's relationship with his mom 32:22Going viral with a fidget spinner 35:42 Underground Rap Scene and substance issues 41:00 Mattox's advice for inspiring artists 51:30

That's the point, bro, got it evolved. I got so much different types of music now. Show me what you did to blow up. So I did. Are you close with your mom? Yeah, like this. When you were 11, your mom was 25. Right.

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And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know. Maddox, my guy. Thanks for coming, man. I really appreciate it. I know, man. What's the deal? How are we doing? I'm doing great, man.

You all right? You all right. You're all right. You're all right. Not it. You're going to L.A. I ain't been here in a minute. Where'd you come from?

Philly? Philly? Yeah. Wow, that's where the Trank is. Yeah, Kensington, yeah. You know, Skriller? I do not. Okay.

Is that a place? No, Scrilla's my friend. He's an artist from Philly. He's, like, he'd be shooting, he's from Kensington, though, like, he'd be shooting all his music video, he'd be getting the fiends in it. Like, there's like zombies and stuff. Right. And what they do is.

Right, so what they do is they take the fentanyl. Yeah. And they mix it with the xylizine. and then they inject it into their arms and they get these big flesh. And then they legs be falling off, their hands. Bro, all that. All that.

My, I ain't tried to call my aunt, but I got two aunts, so I didn't really call my aunt out. But, like, my aunt used to be on, like, all this. Like, my aunt used to be down Canada. Like, she was really, like, did it, like, for, like, years and shit, you feel me? Like, she wrote through a hard, you feel me? That was a big thing with my family, you feel me?

So, like, seeing that shit, made me like know to like keep my balance, you know what I'm saying, stay away from that time. So she was on Trank? No, no, she wasn't on Trank. She was on like, her and all that other turrets. All that, a bunch of shit, wet, all the other types of shit. Is she alive?

She's good now. She's sober now. Oh, good. Yeah, she got a kid and everything. Really? Yeah, yeah. That's fantastic. See, man, there's nothing better for me than the stories are of when people are just

actually just. destroying themselves. Not for real. And she really was like that. You feel me like? But she came out the other side. Exactly. That's the part I love.

For real. You know, I was just telling somebody, I met one of my employees for the first time, but she looked really familiar to me. And I walked up to her and I said, hey, I'm sorry, I've got a concussion. I know I know you. Please don't be offended. how do I know you and what's your name? And she said I was a client a year and a half ago at your affordable center.

And now I was hired after a year sober, right, or after a year and a half sober, to work here. And I started crying because those are my favorite employees for sure. because they were struggling. We helped them. They came out the other side, and now they're working for us. That's a blessing. I'm sorry.

Working with us. That's full of circles. It's so good, right? It's all divine time and shit, too, for real. Yeah. So. Divine alignment. So you said you have a lot of stuff to talk about,

so let's go in order. Oh, yeah. Okay? Do you have anything that you want to talk about? New news, like breaking news. is like what are you doing next what do you I got a couple of projects coming soon I got this

oxy shit I'm working on all oxy like this is a new brand like you're all like you're all going to take oxycontin no no no oxy I with an I XI OXI OXI OXI it means I XI

I see infinity so I'm at OXNFINI OX infinity okay so it's pretty much like a new brand I'm working on I'm going to have clothes for it, and then I'm going to make an album called Axy. That's like the next shit coming up. When are you going to drop that album, Oxy?

I don't know. Sometimes for them. I can't let it. 30 days, six months, somewhere in between there? Maybe. Maybe not. I might drop something before it. I might drop some little tape before it.

Okay, we'll talk about that later in the episode, and we'll get you motivated. For sure. Okay? Because here's the thing. You busted out at 12, right? And you're 20 now, right? Yeah. Okay.

You said you've seen a lot at a young age. How has that shaped or changed you? I mean, I feel like, I don't know. Like, I feel like me seeing a lot at a young age, it was just like I was exposed to a lot. So I guess I'm like more insensitive to everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just used to it.

You know what I'm saying? Like, when I blew up, it was like, since a kid, everybody knew me. So it's like, it's not like if it's normal to me for everybody to know me and like to be famous, you know what I'm saying? And like having people come up for pictures. It's like I'm used to it kind of. I cope with it. What about, so when you were 11, your mom was 25.

Right. Okay, how did she deal with your new fame? She was like shocked and shocked, you feel me? You know, it's crazy. Like when I was telling her, when I was like working on being a rapper, I told her, I was like, I was like, I don't need to go to school no more. Like, I was like, 10. I'm like, telling this before I blew up.

I'm like, I don't need to go school no more. I'm going to be a rapper. I don't need to go to school. she was like, it's one in a billion chance that people blow up as a rapper and then that shit happened. That's what did she do? What did she mean?

How does she react to it? He was just shocked, you feel me? Like, she was just like... Was she happy? Yeah, for sure. She was proud, yeah. Like, she was all the way with it. You feel me?

Like, yeah, that's legendary. Now, when did you start blowing the school? Shit. high school, like ninth grade, I never went to high school. I went home school till like ninth grade then I dropped out. I never actually went to school.

High school. Oh, just high school. You never went to high school. But I'd be like into philosophy and like reading shit. Dude, I ain't calling you stupid. I'm genius. I'm just letting you know.

School ain't for everybody, bro. Yeah, not for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like, you know, the prison, If you think about, like, the prison and, like, hospitals and, like, jails and schools, they all got, like, the same type, like, design type. It's, like, a program type shit.

You know what I'm trying to say? Yes, and not. They all look alike. Okay, they may, okay. You know what I'm saying? They may all look alike and they may all have rules. But one of them... I'm not saying school bad, though.

Like, I still feel like it's certain things you should go to school for it, but, like, if you need to go to school for it, but, like, if you know what, need to. I feel like it's a waste of time. No, absolutely, but jail, I got to just correct you on this. A school is a pain in the for some. Like, my kids like it.

Right. Okay. Some kids like it. Some kids can't stand it. Some kids are just indifferent to it. Okay. But there's one thing. Have you ever seen Sesame Street? Yeah. Okay. Remember when they had those four boxes and they'd have the broccoli

and the carrots and the lettuce, and then they'd have a clown. And they'd think, which one of these don't belong here? Remember that? Okay. God damn it. Okay.

Well, they had one. Okay? That was a thing. Okay. School, college, high school, and then jail. Which one doesn't belong there? Because one of the places is jail, that's right.

You know why? Crazy. Because you get to leave school. And when you drop the soap, you don't have to... No, jail way crazy. You're right, you're right. Okay? You don't have to worry about getting shanked, although that's not true today.

Okay. But you know what I mean? Yeah. No, for sure. School ain't jail, kids. What's the industry getting wrong about the young artists today? What you mean about it? What do I mean by that, Dylan?

How is our, like, our culture of music is, like, so different than how rap used to be, like, 10 years ago. Like, I feel like people in label systems and shit are still thinking, like, how it used to be, and they're not really hit to the new ways the kids are doing with music, the new sounds, and it's palatable enough, like, what do you think about? Because you make experiential shit.

Right. I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's getting to the point where anybody can make music and anybody can blow up, you know, You know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's lit, though, because it's everybody getting the chinch, you know what I'm saying? Like nowadays, people record stuff off their phone, and if you got the right template, it would sound fire. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got homies that be recording off their phone, and they sound better than people that be recording their studios that they pay for. You got to show Dylan how to do that.

I got an 11-year-old right now, and he's growing his hair out just like yours, and he's talking to me. So we've got to do that. He's like... Yeah, bro. Dude, where's your facial tattoo? I don't got no face tattoos. Dude. I got no tattoos.

That's... You got no tattoos? Really? I don't feel the need to get something tattoo. Like, I don't feel like it's something that important to get. You're the best. You're afraid of needles just like me, right? I ain't being afraid of needles.

It's just... Of course that with me. That is. I would have did it. Like, I would have... You know how they be taken, like, what's that called? the medicine until they blacked the out and they could take

tat your whole body like I would do shit like that you feel me like but if I was to get tets because I would go to black the fuck down like I would go crazy everything because my friends like they got crazy ass tattoos like my one of the friend got like a mushroom on his face

my other friend got like the um the um the crack from Harry Potter and the little the little buzz ball the balls from Harry Potter. You know what I want to do, Dylan?

Don't worry about it. Go pull up a chair and sit right there. Dylan's making his appearance, everyone, because Dylan has listened to Maddox forever. He's listening to you forever. And he's the one he's going to ask the best questions. Okay, by the way, you guys have to follow each other. He loves them. Yeah, I guess. Okay? You don't have to follow me to. I'll follow your shit too. Oh, God.

Really? People are going to. start. You're not going to be cool if you follow me. I'm going to show shit. I've been seeing a bro. We'll go crazy. No, you're cool. We are back. We're back. So, special surprise for everyone today. You know how I'm always screaming for Dylan? Meet Dylan.

What's up, guys? Dylan does everything. Dude, I want to know where you got your sound from because we all know. Well, first of all, reach into your pocket for me real quick. If you do me a favor. We have something for you here We wanted to give you You know, I go ahead and show the camel

It was in a minute What did my sound come from? We started with this But where are we now? How did you make such different music now? I followed you from since 2016-17 So I mean, that's the point, bro, that's evolved and just keep, you know

But I got so much different types of music now So it's like, it's so much. Like, I probably got like 5,000 tracks and took my release. And it's like all different dramas and all different vibes. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, now it's just like, I'm at the point where it's like I'm putting together projects. It was like art pieces and it's like an outfit. And it's like picking out these songs.

And I got songs from years ago, you know what I'm saying? Like I got songs from 2020, 2020, 2020, 2020. I got songs from when I was 11, 12, 13, you feel me? So, like, it's like what I'm going to do in the future, I'm going to put them all together, right? And I'm going to have it like show the evolution. It's going to be like from like 11, 12, 13, war soon. And it's going to be like my new shit. And then it's going to like mix it together, the old and the new shit.

And it had like the AI videos and like me as a kid and then me growing up. It's like, oh, crazy shit. Like, that's where I know. You'd be the first, I think, to ever do. That's when one has ever done that more than so. You know, yeah. You know, it would be really great. Huh.

If every once in a while, right, like every quarter, four times a year, he drops the track from when he was 11 or 12. Yeah. That was one of them. But you promote it. You make a big deal about it. Right. Because people lose their minds for that.

Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. He's so fuck. And maybe every month. You drop a different track from the past. Like that never dropped before. I mean, I don't know.

I don't know. Those are good ideas. I like those. I don't know. Those are cool. Whatever. But yeah, dude, I mean, I see the stuff you do now. And I'm just so, like, amazed by it because it's so different.

And, like, yeah, it's really, it's pushing a lot of stuff. And I guess, you know, when we think about music right now, and what's happening with it. We have all these new ways of marketing. Now, I'm no genius with TikTok. I don't really know how to use any of that shit, but I will say that I noticed your song back in the day, pull up.

Oh, yeah, that's when viral. Brian LeBron Jameson, Brian Post, that's why I work for him. You're kidding. That's huge. He's actually great. Yeah, he locks people down on defense in the league, and he got a lot. He's just a lot.

people down. All right, that was, that was very important. No, that was those, that was a good comment. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's cool. I will Bronny too. He's awesome. But I think, yeah, man, I mean, do you find yourself marketing on TikTok at all, or do you kind of just do your own thing? No, I feel like TikTok just like, too, like, child is, it's just like, I don't know, like, I don't want to do that shit. Like, it's just like, it just felt lame to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it just felt try hard. Like, I better just just, like the feelings do.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, because you have such a strong, like, cult fan base. Like,

you've had that same following for, like, many years, and you haven't had to change your marketing strategy. And I think a lot of people can't do the same these days, what makes you kind of a black sheep

in the industry. So that's really, that's a unicorn. He met unicorn. A unicorn. I'm a black sheep. Yeah, well, yeah,

we'll give you the black sheep title for that. And, but I will say that, you know, with all that, you grew up in Philly, right? Yeah.

You saw a lot of stuff, a lot of, I'm sure, violence, drugs, everything, right? Sure. Because didn't you grow, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you grow up kind of in the hood? Yeah, I was in North.

I was down, like, Longcrest. Yeah. The neighborhood I grew up, man. Fogne. And shit, it was cool, though. Like, everybody f***ed with me, though, because my mom worked at all the wrecks and shit. So, like,

the rec centers is, like, a playground and, like, a park, and then it got, like, people that work there that like run activities and like and like that's it's like the part like we're basketball at and like where everybody be trapping that and smoking and all that shit like that's where everybody be outside so I was always outside since like a kid since like a baby for like since I was in the womb you know what I'm saying like my mom was working at all the wrecks around the hood so like I grew up in long curse she

worked at long cross for a little bit and then it was another hood called houseman and then in houseman I was in houseman that shit was the trenches that shit was lit though I ain't gonna lie like I'll be outside I just run down my mom let me free because like

that's how I be out of feeling that they don't really go like me like you should be good She'll just let you walk around but that's just like I wrecked out there like the buildings she's 14

she's 14 when she had them it's like it's not like she's you know she's doing the best she can but is she doing it My mom like that shit, single mom, too. My dad died when I was two, you feel me? Like, he held herself, yeah.

Your dad killed himself. Yeah. Yeah. Listen to me carefully, okay? Yeah. That has nothing to do with your mom. It has nothing to do with you. Okay, I need you to understand that in your soul.

No, I know. I ain't tripping about that shit. I really never was phased by it because it's like I never met him. Can I tell you? Oh, that's going to work then. I don't know what I'm saying. Well, you don't remember him. Yeah, I don't remember him.

But he was there a little bit, yeah, all the way. All right. The reason I bring that up is because parents that kill themselves typically have children that kill themselves. And so then I, so I wanted to let me. No, I'm never be suicidal. I feel like it's just like not in me because it's like, I just know my worth and I know, like,

Like, it's just too, like, bro, I can't do that. Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. For sure. Hey, man, I had to say it. I'm thankful to be alive. You know what I'm saying?

Like, this is a blessing, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. You got a joy of living. For sure. It's your blessing. Yeah, I wake up. Good to breathe. Good one.

Thank you. I just love you. All right. That's so awesome. So while we're on the topic of you growing up and everything like that, I think I might let Rich take this one over. But do want to ask him the question? we've all been waiting for. I forgot the question we've all been waiting for.

I will say it. Did you yourself find yourself entangled in druggies at any point in your life? Hell yeah. I was doing drugs before I was popping. Really? Yeah. I'm from Philly, bro. You know what I'm saying?

That's what motherfuckers don't know. I kept it on a hush the whole time because I didn't want to promote that type of shit. You feel me? At the end of the day, that shit not cool. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I ain't never want to, like, promote it to the kids. You know what I'm saying? kids watching me, you know what I'm saying?

So it was like, that's why I didn't really do that. But the whole time I was chief, man, I was doing everything. Like, I started taking shrooms when I was like 13. I did DMT or 14, bro. Like, yeah. All types of crazy shit. DMT. Damn it through tryptamine.

It's like the strongest psychedelic in the world. Like, you hit it. I hit it off a dab break, too. So that made it even stronger the right? You hit it, and then you blackout, and you go to a whole other dimension. Like, you go to a whole, like, some black mirror type of shit. Like, some whole, like.

Black mirror? A black mirror. Yeah, like, you go into a whole other dimension and then you come back. It's like, and then people would be saying they met God and, like, it like, or like people were like, it's like, you know, what ayahuasca is. It's like that. It's like that. Is that the toad? It's like that, but in 15 minutes.

Okay. Is that the toad poison? Yeah, that's, that's all right. blocking about that shit Mike Tyson took. The toad poison. Yeah. Okay, that's garbage. Okay.

They must be winging out. They be like, really, whoa. Start getting, butt-ass naked and shit. I'd be like, yo,

I'm never doing that. The shit I did. I hit that shit. And then you pass out and you come back. Dude, I got to tell you, if this is the toad poison,

when you get it, did you throw off, Okay, then it ain't the toad place and it's... No, it's much more... It's different. You smoke it. See, it's like synthesized. Oh my God.

I don't know. Maybe it's different than... But you smoke drugs. Smoke. Okay. No, no, no. I smoke D&T. Is it enough enough enough?

Okay. What drugs were you doing when you were getting loaded all the time? I was just a spin. I wasn't loaded all the time. No, no, but when you were actively using the drugs. Right. When you were belting out all those songs, okay? Like, experiment, I was experimenting with, like, ecstasy,

science, okay, songs, acid. All types of. Okay, good. So, benzos and psychedelics. Yeah. Uh-huh. Do you still do any of them now? I mean, I'll be like, I would take a tolerance break.

Like, Taillian's break. Yeah. What do you, are you, are you buying them on the street, or are you getting in front of pharmacy? I got my folks, they got scripts. Like, my folks get them from the pharmacy, but they're in there on them. You can never buy anything off the street. Cocaine, anything. Yeah.

Not for sure. Damn. It's dead. Yeah. I know. So, there. And I mean, at the point where, like, I need, like, Like, I'm not going to grab it if it's not the own shit.

You know what I'm saying? You wouldn't take anything from anyone. Yeah, if it's a random, I'm not f*** with that. Even if a friend. Yeah. Because, dude, you know what a star is, right? A what? A star...

Okay. A star is someone who just wants to be close to someone who is famous. Right. Okay? And what these people will do is they will come up to you and they'll give you pills or power. And they'll say, because powders, they can't say it with, but they'll give you pills.

And what they'll say is, I got this from the doctor, dude, I promise. And they just want to be close to you. So they'll give you some bullshit. Okay? Just don't ever take anything unless you got the drugs from the pharmacy. Okay? And then you're tight. So are you on one of those breaks right now?

one of those, what do you call him? Tolerance break. How are you on? Half and half. Half and half. I'm in LA, so you know, just get a while, but, you know, I'm still focused, you're what I'm saying,

you see me? Where you stay, you're alert and cool. Then you ask you question, where are you staying in LA? I'm up in Pasadena right now. Uh-huh. Yeah. All right, when did you get here? Friday.

When are you leaving? Sunday. That's it, people. He's only got till Sunday. That's what you got. Yeah. In and out, this Stable Motion, got another show in Phoenix, but I gotta go to Canada.

Where in Canada? Montreal and Vancouver. Wow. The two opposite sides of the countries. And I just did a tour in China. That's crazy. You went to... Dude.

That's it was insane. Do they fly you out? Yeah, they fly me all, I know everything. They got me everything. I mean, I had to pay a dime for food. Nothing. They made me. a riot like a bull that just took me around and translated everything and everything so like

i did four cities out there shindu shanghuan zoh and some other shit how many people showed up to these things all peck and they and you know it's crazy they only speak our limbs i saw them like they was like singing the words to my new shit and i what the f f f f that shi me uh and i out there so like you can't smoke no weed out there. So like I'm smoking mad cigarettes. I don't even smoke cigarettes, you feel me? But they cigarettes better. I ain't gonna like.

It better than I heard. They're more healthier than I don't hear you from. Well, they aren't more healthier there. But like I was drawing, and I started spitting out blood and I was like, oh yeah, I got chill. I smoked like two pecks a day,

get drunk and stuff out there. You were spitting up blood? I just spit out like a little bit of blood. It was like the smoking, You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm good, it's cool.

Some of your recent songs are about drugs. Yeah. Cracked out. Murders and downers. Right? Yeah. What's that about? That's oxy.

So that's my second person. That's your second personality? Right. Oh. That's my shadow. You're like Marshall and Eminem. It's Ox, Ox, Oxi, and Matt Ox. Mm.

And he was born. and he lived in 8 Mile. That was my favorite movie going on. He was probably that. The Last Waltz and Purple Rain are the three best rock and roll films of all time. He did great in that. You know who I loved, though? His girlfriend in it, Britney Murphy, and she passed away.

and I forgot what she passed away from. It might have been drugs, I don't know. But not, yeah, like, even, like, me, like, I've lost a lot of homies from drugs, like, when I was young, you feel me? So that always made me stay alert and, like, stay away from certain shit. Like, Pete, R.P, my brother, Pete, R.P.

Little Pete. R.P. Zodiac. R.P. Mac Miller. All right, brother, that shit, really. Like, when I seen all that, like, RIP truth world. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's... It was like lessons, you know what I'm saying?

It was like lessons to the generation, you know what I'm saying? Like, even like, bro, like, ex me my brother too, like, he was like, he was on the drugs. Like, he was on that, for real, like he was trying, you know what I'm saying, be a good example for the kids, you got to be, I'm saying? You have to be. So you're not buying drugs on the street. You get in your weed at the dispensary, correct? No, I get my weed from plugs, but...

From plugs? Yeah, from our folks, though. Okay. Listen, if you're buying lean on the street, I understand. I'm going to get there, I swear to God. If you're buying weed on the street or lean or pills or powders, basically what I'm saying is anything you buy on the street is going to be laced.

Why would anybody sell weed on the street if it wasn't? No, not on the street. You said you had a plug Yeah, like my friends Like my friends They get a shit from Cali They get it from Canada Cali

Oh they get it from Cali Yeah they go to the shit But do they get it from a dispensary Or do they get it from the street You hire from like growing from farms Like growing farms Okay

I understand that Right There's always gonna be a pot farm Right Because that's where they grow Right Right What I'm saying

What they be putting it Fetanol For real? Yeah What the fuck They'd be spraying it these days bro In like 2025 it's not With that sprayed weed I don't smoke no sprayed weed

But you don't know where you got it So you don't know if it's sprayed buddy That's the thing No my folks is like weed experts though Like they really be out here like I ain't gonna lie Baby come on No I'm listening to you though

But here's the thing Okay This is something that I'd spent a lot of time on. It's why I came back to work after selling my first business. Okay? Yeah. I would never tell you anything that wasn't true. No.

No. Okay. If you say that you're not messing with street trucks, right? You would never get pills from anywhere other than your script to your doctor, right? and go to the pharmacy to pick them up. But the weed is different. Right. Okay.

The weed is legal in California. Right. They don't have to send you a bag of weed or a brick of weed and send it to you. They can go ahead and go to the dispensary, buy all the stuff and send it to you. Isn't pot legal in Philly? No. Put isn't legal in Pennsylvania? It's legal in New York, not Pennsylvania.

How far is New York from Pennsylvania? Two hours. That's not fun. Send somebody to Pennsylvania. You got a bunch of guys. Give them some cash. Tell them to go to New York and be back in four hours. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. Now, that's what they be doing, though. That's what my pun is doing, too. Okay, but they give it to you. Let me ask you a question. When you get it, is it in a, seal from a company. Several times.

Okay. That's the only time it's good. Right. Okay. If it's childproof, right? And it's got a name brand on it. Right. Okay.

Otherwise, bro, they're putting stuff on it. Right. Right. Promise. He. Promise me. I guess. Okay.

All right. Good. Why don't I have? That was exhausting. A little bit, but why don't we have some? some fun. Why don't we do the new section of the podcast? Everybody, we are entering the rant. Okay. You can rant about anything you want that pisses you off, just something that's aggravating or annoying, right? Give it to me. Like, you want me to give you an example? Okay. I hate getting

stuck behind a bicyclist, okay, that's being selfish and getting. You know, in the middle of the road other than moving so that traffic can pass. That drives me insane. And I can do a whole rant on that for five minutes. Okay. For 50 minutes. I could go on a rant like that

and lose my mind and just the, you've heard it. I just... Okay. My rant will be like everybody that would be saying all that shit about my hair, my my shit's fine. Everybody would be

hate you look at my shit, but like, my shit fire. I ain't cutting this. Can I ask you a question? Huh? Okay. Um, what about, uh, are you close with your mom? Yeah, like this. Where does she live?

She lives? She lives with me. She lives with you? Yeah. Oh, that's great. Do you have children yet? No. Not ready for that.

No. It's good to be aware. Yo, what? What happened? What? My little shari from London She'll call me last night I mean just earlier

showing me a pregnancy drawn, right? I'm like, you lying. She's like, Nora for her. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, stop camping. She was lying. Who is this?

Huh? Your girlfriend? My son from London. Oh, your girlfriend from London? You're like, I haven't seen you in three months. How the hell are you pregnant? You crazy. You're trying.

Baby it's yours and it comes out Asian. That's why I said, I need a DNA test. Unbelievable. I need a DNA test on my kids too. There's nothing like me. Well, I want to go back to the drug songs because you're here to tell the kids, right? I mean, that's what you were telling.

You don't want to promote that drug use and everything. But my thing is this now. So what I actually is creating, a character, right? And the whole thing, the whole point of it is to contradict myself. So it's a whole plan behind it. Can't explain it to you now. But it's a whole plan behind it. It's like, I can't sell people to not do something if I didn't, didn't do it. Like, you can't tell somebody never do drugs. You never did drugs. Did I tell you, did you, did I tell you never did you drugs? No, I'm not saying that. No, I'm not doing that. But hold on a second. You're not telling anybody

Being careful with it. Right. But being careful with it means getting, not getting it off the street. That's what being careful with it is. Right. So I'm not deluded. I'm not coming on here and telling a 20 year old and guys under 30 who are in the culture, in the ramp scene, smoking all the, all day every day. Okay.

I mean, I'm not telling you not to do that. Because I'm not stupid. Right. Okay, that falls on deaf ears. All I'm saying is, just do it a little bit. Just do it safely. Yeah, for sure. Right?

Don't buy it on the street. Yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. Okay. Put that into one of your songs. Oh, I see. All right? Yeah.

Seriously, put that shit in your songs so that these kids can understand, hey, he ain't telling me, he's not a wet blanket. He's not sure. A kill joy Is right Making it a bad time He's just saying Do your

Do it safely That's awesome That's news That's news That's news That's news And he's gonna follow you Dylan It's a good day

Dylan Dylan don't follow him Just big time him So that way you can say Yeah Maddox follows me But I'm not gonna follow that bitch Right he's a right

oh dude show me what you did to blow up I think you had 32 million whatever did this so the this bit this

spun a fidget spin a fidget spinner and got 32 million views yeah yeah I saw that day he were the first to blow up with a fidget spinner

he was the first rapper to ever blow up out with fidgets. When was there another rapper that used the first? So he ain't the first not used

he always don't go forever. Yeah, that's a good one. That is Dwargesse. Nice. This score is here. Give me that.

Okay. Deal it. Watch how many views we get. With my fidget spinner. Now you've got to start rapping with, you know,

like a good beat. You need a beat from Ugi, Maine. You do a beat from Oogie Main then he'll be right. He could do it, right? He could.

Okay. No, I couldn't. He could. Okay. This is addicting. It feels so nice. Doesn't it? It's so satisfying.

Wait until he finds out you can spin it on just one finger. Yeah, hold on. There. Dude, I sure already. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, really? You'll put it on your head, yeah. If you balance it right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to spin it. There you got, you got. Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh my God. Yeah. This is so fun.

This is so good. Look, this is like, you know, the girls that walk with the books on their head. What do you call them? Like debutantes? Right? You guys have those in the rap scene, right? Debutants? They're all over the place.

How long do I have to leave this on my head, Dylan? I don't know. It's going still. So I didn't leave it on until it goes, right? Yeah, you'll know. All right, cool. Yeah, like a little top hat or something. All right.

With all this AI musing popping up, do you think it helps or hurts the creative side? I don't know. I don't be using it. I feel like, I feel like, I guess it could help and hurt it at the same time because it's making people put less effort in, but then it's able to do things that you couldn't have done before.

you know what it ended do you know what i use oh he could grab that's awesome do you know what i use the ai for first drafts what's that that means if i have to write something sometimes the hardest thing about it is starting and so um when you're in a law firm right you'll typically have the assistant lawyer, the associate, write up stuff and then he goes and he hands it to the main lawyer, the partner, and he marks it up and hands it back to him. And now you get your second draft. And then he does it again.

So I use AI for a first draft on everything. So I guess what I'm saying is if you, if you haven't used it and you're thinking about experimenting with it, try it, take what you like about it, and then put your spin on it. For sure. And I think that would be great. Right, for sure. When's the last time you dropped an elbow?

I just dropped that album. I dropped an EP like a couple months ago. How's it doing? I'm good. It's like, I feel like I don't be putting like no money behind marketing. I'll be keeping organic, you know what I'm saying? So, like, it'd just be, like, natural views, you know what I'm saying? Right.

And I mean, like, you're not boosting it. Yeah, like, I'm not putting it in a playlist. I'm not doing nothing, like, on a playlist. Like, put it on a playlist? You know what you? Played for putting her on playlist, pay for blogs, posting. Like, I don't do nothing that shit. That's all from the rest of you, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I don't really got no team. I don't got no manager. I manage myself. Like, it's just one man, Dolo, like, in the Army. So this is actually breaking news. This happened today. The Secretary of Health and Human Services came out with a stat today that every seven minutes somebody dies of fentanyl. Now, I did my own math, and it was even worse than that.

It was one in five. So it's somewhere between one and five minutes. What? Between one and five minutes. Yeah, it's somewhere between five and seven minutes. Right? And everybody's dropping in your scene, right? Sure.

I was told by one of the guys, I think it might have been decks or young bands or it could have even been Zan man. Mm-hmm. You know Zan, right? Zan man. For sure. I love that.

I love that man. Yeah, he's cool as that. He is the best person. Yeah. Yeah. You know 2K baby? Yeah, that's my boy, yeah. You know 2K?

Yeah. I know everybody. Have you ever seen him play basketball? No. Oh, dude. He's like Michael Jordan. No, that. All right, dude.

He's so good. How does that hit you one in every seven minutes or so? That does. Shit, you should be like, fuck, like. I should be like, damn, what the fuck the other? I mean, like, it don't really hit me because it's like I'm used to seeing this. Like, growing up, you know what I'm saying?

So it's like, I know there's a part of the world, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, that shit will be wild. So it's so normalized that you're desensitized to it. For sure. I feel like definitely in our city we don't like Philadelphia coming from Philly. Like we definitely desensitized it. Have you ever seen coming from Philly the zombies leaned over, hunched over with their arms rigid and knuckles? Fuck it.

I've seen these with the legs cut off type of like their legs chopped off because they did the train. Like, they ain't got no more legs. Like, my fucking laying on the ground, past the fuck out. See my fucking dead, bro. Like, was laying there, bro. Nobody doing shit. Have you watched any of your friends overdose ever? No.

Wow. That's crazy. That's lucky. That is lucky. Have you? I was talking to, uh... My friends don't be doing, like, man, hardcore drugs. Like, we're gonna do hardcore drugs.

We'll be chilling. Like, you know what I'm saying? We f*** around a little bit. You have our friends. fun when we chill out and then we go, man, we go and take some seam off, you feel and go take some vitamins, some supplements and shit when we go work out. You feel me? It's like, life is balanced, you know what I'm saying?

So you got to just stay on that, you know what I'm saying? You working out all the time? Not all the time, but I got a pull up in my crib. I be doing my... Push-ups, sit-ups, and pull-ups. Yeah, all that. Then get on the chair, do this, the dips. And y'all done.

I was doing that at the gym too. I used to do the lunges too. You got to do the lunges. If you don't do lunges, you know. Otherwise you get skinny little legs and a nice upper body and you look like a freak. You know who you look like? Gru.

Yeah, grew. Crew. We're doing minions. Right with those skinny little legs. Dude, I kind of look like grew, don't I, with that big nose and that bald head. No. Whatever.

Yeah, we probably should put that there because that's going to stick. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's still stick. They'll be putting gifts of Gru in the comments. In the comment section, right, of all the social media, put down who you want next on this thing. Ask whatever questions you want in the DMs. I'll answer them. Okay?

For sure. Me. Okay? Tell me something nobody knows. Break the news here. Something in the scene. anything something nobody knows about you anything we're breaking news right now

and we're gonna go viral all right yo I'm like yo like yo like I don't been on a hell of car chases like like when I was like when I was in Philly as a young like I've been on high speed chases bro because like my boy around like you know what like you're friends me so it's like I got like three houseby chasing in my life.

With the police? Hey. Did poppy once? No. You got away. Hey. Whoa. That's great.

How'd you ban shop? Oh, shit. Everybody wants to hear that story. In fact, that's the only story. You got a great driver. What? Got a great driver. Who's the driver?

I can't tell you that. Oh, no, no, no. But it wasn't you. No. Yeah, don't tell me that. So I wanted to ask about your. mother. I want to go backwards. Because that's a great story.

No, for sure. Okay? 14 years old. We're going to write a book by it. I'm going to tell you some crazy. My dad name was Christopher. And my grandpa name was Christopher. And they mean Christ. My name is Matthew. That means gift of God.

So it was like It was like I was the gift that they left me Because it was like My mom, right She had to take care of me Up to like 11 years old

And I was able to take care of her You feel me It was like It was like some full circles It was like She got me so young She was the single mom And it was like

Like It was like I got to I got to take care of her You feel me Like I got to play that role that I ain't like a, like my dad, like we ain't ever had no dad, you feel, me, I got to pray that role and get a crib for us, you feel, get a car for her, all that,

you know what I'm saying? So, like, that shit was a blessing. Like, my mom, like, my best friend, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love my mom to death. Like, she was my manager for a while, but, like, I just, I just, she don't, like, I don't like, I don't want to have to be working all the time anymore. So, like, I have her chill off that, you from me, like, let her sit back, you know, enjoy life. Is that who you call? Like, okay, so I have a group of guys that I call, like, I'll call my

buddy Stuart or my buddy Charlie, typically, if I'm struggling, right? Because everybody needs support. They call my friend Matthew or John as well. So that four guys that I really lean on, right? And two of them, lean on me. Right. Okay. That's my support system. Now, you've got your mother. Yeah.

Okay, who you said was your best friend. I have a best friend too, but I'm like her 77th. Best friend. It's like, my mom, I'm the only person I can really trust 100%. Right. Who else do you have in your support system that you can go to? Of course, all my brothers, my friends, you know what I'm saying? Like, my friend, I don't got friends.

I got brothers, you know what I'm saying? Like, my folks are you my breath again, I'm saying. So, of course, they're, like, my OGs and, and philly, you feel me, like, they, you know what I'm saying? Like, all them type of people, too. But it's like, sometimes I don't like talking to people about my problems. I like, just hearing myself. Yeah. Can I tell you something about that, though?

Because you're 20, and I bid 20. Have you been 58? I don't know. All right. So let me tell you how that works. Right. The way responsible adults deal with life, with life stressors, right? Is they get support.

Right. Right? What does support look like? Okay? It's about talking to a therapist. Right? And before you go, oh, therapy, right? therapy is how people deal with their stress and their problems responsibly.

Therapy isn't something you have to do. You don't have to do it. You get to do it. It is the ultimate luxury. Right. Right. So if you're going to keep stuff to yourself, right? okay or you don't want to say something to somebody because you know you just it doesn't feel

comfortable to you right then speak to a therapist about it get yourself a good therapist you're doing really well for yourself and what that does is you invest in your own growth for sure so that way you can become the vet the best version of yourself for sure yeah that's what that's what this is bro and you're a baby be. Right. Okay. You've got the whole world.

Yeah, it's a beginner. And let me give you another secret, okay, that you knew, and I want you to remember and always remember it. See, at 11 years old, no one could tell you that you couldn't do something, even when your mother said it's one in a billion, right? You didn't hear that. You knew it. You didn't know how to get there, but you knew you'd figure it out because this is what I love.

And school I hate, this I love, I'm going to make this work. If a hundred people would have told you that you couldn't do it, you would have done it anyway because you were 11 and you didn't know better. Exactly. Be 11. Always. Don't know better. That's my next tape. That was actually one of my...

Be 11. That was the one I was going to say. The one take. I was talking about it's going to be called Never Grow Up. Dude, I like be 11. Or 11 again.

Young forever. 11 forever. I love that too. Yeah, I'm like Rick Rubin. Can I ask him one last question? Yeah. This is a big one. This is like a two-part question.

Well, the first thing is what do you have? You started so young. So what advice do you have? Because you know all these kids are on band, lab, cooking on their phone now in Mills. What do you have for advice for artists that are trying to start right now? I say just try to like keep this organic, you know what I'm saying?

And like, you know, like, do you be yourself, you know what I'm saying? Don't try to sound like everybody else, you know what I'm saying? So you want to stick out. So like the best way to stick out just be in yourself, you know what I'm saying? trying new things out, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't try to just do everybody else tight beats. They're shit ass. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, be origin. Yeah. And what would you tell kids about buying drugs on the street? Don't. Don't buy drugs out the street. If you only see, you're hungry with his knee and the skirt. You see that shit, don't buy that shit. Like, straight, shit like that.

Yeah. Sort of like that. What? I'd like to leave on that winning streak, but I do want to tell you how impressed I am with you. 20 years old made it right with your mother. She lives with you and she's your best friend. Okay? You're just, I'm so impressed.

I'm sure you are. P.C. And remember, dude. Okay. Be 11. Young forever Never grow up Nobody tells you

What you can and can't do And when you have those people Who are telling you you can't You cut those people loose Because you just need that in your ear Ever You don't want it in your consciousness The only human being

In the world That can limit your ascension To stardom is you Thanks Where can people reach you. Medax. We're Medox.

M.E.T.O.X. On all platforms. All platforms. Well, he did do it at 11. Yeah. He did nine years ago, so everything was available. Yes. You got lucky with the username. It's nice.

See on next Tuesday. Right now. It's good as you get.