We're Out of Time - Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

🎙️ In this powerful episode of We're Out of Time, host Richard Taite sits down with rising hip-hop star Suigeneris—also known as Suie—for a raw and inspiring conversation about music, family, staying grounded in the spotlight and why he turned down appearing on Gordon Ramsay's cooking show. Known for his breakout hit "Now" featuring Lil Skies (with over 50 million streams), Suigeneris opens up about his journey from viral success to building a meaningful life beyond fame. With hits like "Star Player," "Feel Good," and "Brown Justin Bieber," he’s more than just a chart-topper—he’s a visionary carving out his own path. 🎤 Suie reveals why family is his foundation, how he avoids the traps of celebrity life, and how his father’s authentic Mexican recipes led to the creation of his food venture, Chef Suie. 💡 This episode is more than just music talk—it’s a blueprint for success through self-belief, purpose, and staying true to your roots. 👇 Listen now and explore more: 🔗 All things Richard Taite, We're Out of Time, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa:https://linktr.ee/richardtaite 📲 Follow Suigeneris:https://www.instagram.com/xosuigeneris 📌 Key moments and highlights from this conversationIntro 00:00Richard Taite, if that's your real name? 02:08Why is Suigeneris on a hiatus from live performances? 05:40What is the origin of Chef Suie? 12:46Turning the Empire State Building Purple & Gold for Kobe? 22:00What is Alexandra's law? 20:56How Suigeneris's family are his business partners? 28:20Why did Suigeneris turn down Gordon Ramsay's cooking show? 30:44Why do those in the underground rap scene fall to substance use? 33:483 cooking TIPS from Suigeneris!

You don't see anyone young cooking the meals I'm cooking, like traditional Mexican food passed down from generations. Or they're literally promoting people to not cook anymore. It's like, damn, near, soon enough, they're going to lock up the vegetables. But every single day when I get home, I have a home-cooked meal on my family, and it just smacks reality back into me. A lot of rappers fall victim to that stuff because they don't have a family around them. It's also why they move the way they move, you know, and do the things they do.

That's why I put all my money not into security or not into foreign cars or paying friends to make me look cool or be around me. You know, like, I put my money into my family, the foundation, the things that keep me, me, me. I knew the internet would chew me up and spit me out. But, you know, my family keeps me sane. I'm just telling you, you could do whatever you put your mind to. Like, I was dead as a rapper on tour, dropping all these songs.

I had a record deal and all this and that. I did the clothing brand, sold so many that I'm stuck in the house shipping for weeks. I went and I decided to be a chef and Gorda Ramsey's hitting me up. We're overwhelmed with gratitude, where out of time has reached number three on the outside. Apple Podcast's mental health chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us. Hey, man.

How you doing? How's it going, bro? I'm so happy to be here, bro. Honestly, what you're doing with the podcast, something different. I haven't seen it before. You know, your selective guest, the way you rock and let them roll. That's why I had to show up. Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for good cause, you know?

And, you know, this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple questions What's your name by the way? It's Richard Tate, right? Richard Tate Okay, you never know Because you've ever been to me Some people, they come up with these little names

Like I thought Drake's name was Drake It's not Drake. What is it? Aubrey Graham. Really? Yeah, so I thought you were pulling a Drake on me, bro. I needed to know if it was the real name or not. If I had a fake name, what would it be, Dylan?

Would it be daddy? You're John Cena and Joe Rogan's body. Really? Yeah. Rob. Joe Brogan is buff though. You're a bus too, bro. Now I'm just wearing this, like, tight shirt.

Frying a tight shirt to make me look buff. Nah, he's lying. He'd be in the way it's like crazy. No, this guy went ahead and got into an ice bath. Like, Joe Rogan, you like dumped his, and I'm like crying. I'm feeling, because you know, I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a, I cried for him. Unbelievable.

No, the ice bath is different, though. The ice bath is different. I've been around a couple of athletes that try to get me in there, and I'm like, like, I've been in a hot Cheeto bath before. Hot Cheeto bath? Yeah, like full of Cheetos? Yeah, full pool of Cheetos, yeah. Why would you do that?

It was for this music video, for one of my songs called Brown Justin Bieber, it just felt right. I had the swimming hot Cheetos for the video, and like, it burned so crazy. Like, my skin was all red after. I would still rather do that any day than I always bad, so I feel you. Did you come out all orange? Yeah, no, actually. Do you look like an orangutan? Yeah, I had all the Latinos trying to suck me out.

All the Latinos, they're trying to get the chito dust off my fingers and off all my fingers. Oh, that's so good. I don't even have anything cool to say about that. You like hot chitos? No. You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell not. Hot chinos are not it. Dude, I'm 58.

I eat something like that. I might just stroke out. You know? I could drop right there. See, that's a big. Fifteen-year-olds will say that. I can't handle a bag of hot chitos. And then you go to the backstage, back room.

They're all doing coke and all different types of pills. I've never seen. I'm like, chew. Don't can handle this shit, but no hot chitos? You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70% of it's laced with fentanyl. That's actual stats? Oh, yeah.

Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl? Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah.

Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is, You're close with your old man, right? Mm-hmm. You love your old man.

Mm-hmm. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes. Yeah. How were the pancakes? Amazing, fluffy as hell. They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you.

Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone? You'd lose his mind? That's crazy. You close with your mom? Yep. You love her? Yep. I'm a family guy.

Huh? Well, damn, that's crudy, bro. If that's, for real, you know, be careful out here. When you're doing your, you're doing concerts, you're doing shows? Not right now. Not right now. No, yeah. I put down the shows and concerts for a while. It's been like, I think like maybe three years. I'll come out, like, when the homies have a show, I'll come out perform my song with them. But, like, I haven't really been doing any concerts. You're done with it. No, I want to, I want to go back. I just want to, I don't. like performing for people who aren't my fans. You know, like, it sounds stupid.

Of course, yeah, go perform for Travis Scott's fans, you know? Like, you're going to get publicity. They're going to love you after my game followers. But I just feel like that's the part where I'm like, damn, I hate this shit is when I'm sitting there rapping these songs and these people don't, they don't feel it, you know, or they don't even know me. And it's like, I can make them feel it or whatever, but it's like, bro, I'd rather do this for my supporters.

I'd rather go on live or I'd rather, you know, talk to them or do you have do it on a live stream on um on instagram yeah so what i do is like rather than doing them like that is i'll go live on instagram and just play them some music or churn up with them or like i was doing this one thing for a while with encore where we're doing like a show every friday but it was a digital show and like we'll bring like the top fans backstage like on virtually and then we would like have like people like all competing for different money and then we'll give it to like the best one but it was like something for my fans more like my not just fan supporters you know are people trying to chase the same dream as me right so like i don't know i like i like being

close even if it's 10 people i'd rather it be like this than 3,000 people who are waiting for Travis sky and they're just annoying that i'm performing you know right i want to go out there when they know my songs already or when they you know they fill my vibe i'm not just gonna pop out and do a show and just like it's not like the old days where like you go you perform and perform and perform until you get your name out there you sell CDs you sell shit in real life word to mouth I saw him over there you know it's not like that you're going live I'm gonna have fucking five 10 thousand people in there I mean wow you think I could sell out five 10 thousand people like in one second you know so that's the best way to get the reach to my audience especially the people who are far away

who could never see me in real life they live in the UK and Brazil. Those are the biggest supporters because they're like, dude, I love this guy. You know, we have nothing like this out here, the swag, you know, the lyrics, the vibe. It's also the Latin connection. Yeah, yeah. People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. It's getting less so now with the kids today because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah. They just don't. They just don't. And which is like the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child. Yeah, forever.

How did it affect you, man? Obviously, I feel like me being in the game early was like the best thing that could happen for me because I was losing my mind growing up. Like, I felt like literally from kindergarten all the way to when I dropped down in freshman year, like I could not be there for eight hours a day chasing something that is in my dreams. You know, like I know, I know multiple.

I know division. I know English. Like, let's go get this money because my parents, they struggled for a long, long time. And it's like, I couldn't see past Lion King. I didn't want Lion King Part 2. I didn't want to watch Finding Nemo. I just wanted to get some more money so my mom's not sitting in the car crying, you know? More money, more problems. Nope, more money, less problems. You weren't that broke. If it made more problems. If I got to do this, got to do that. Hey, at least I got the money. If you don't have money, you can't eat. If you don't have money, you can't pay your dog's vet bill. If you don't have money, you can't go to the dentist. You know how money you can't even live. So there's no problem. Different, different, different problems.

Yeah. As you'll see, as your life gets bigger, okay, your problems get bigger. Mm-hmm. Right? It's the basic stuff, right? That is cool. Like, you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head, or you don't have to worry about the food, right?

Yeah. But there's just all these pressures when you're building a life and you're ascending into, you know, you're the best version of yourself, right? And when you get there, it's just, you know, you got to be on point, right? You got to know what you're doing. And anyway, I forgot what that.

It's like driving on the freeway. Like, the stakes get high. You know, obviously you always want a car, you always on a bike, but then you're on the freeway, one second to the next, you can crash out. That's what you mean, like more money, more problems in that aspect. That's right? It's, it's, I guess when you have more money,

you have more responsibility, and then you have more to lose. Yeah, right? So it's not just about making it anymore. It's about keeping what you've got, and not only that, but growing. And there's just a lot of, hey, I promise you when we get there, you'll be back and we'll, and we'll do that whole thing.

But you're killing it right now. You're 22. I mean, you're just destroying it. Thank you. I appreciate that. No, no problem. I want to talk about the cooking. Yeah?

Yeah. Because I figured that was going to come up as a boy. Well, that's, look, man, the rap thing don't last forever. Mm-hmm. Okay. What was that thing in, you know Cypress Hill is? Yeah. You didn't know that song, rap game or rap superstar?

I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. You don't know rap superstar. All right. So they go through these lyrics in there, and it's like this game ain't going to last forever. You've got to get your money. Right. When you can't.

And, you know, you feel like you're just getting your love back now because, you know, These adults were bumming you out. Yep. And they didn't know how to deal with a young kid and nurture him and love him. They just, they're a bunch of suits and physio, just a bunch of, right? So who needs that? So they cost you that love. And the longer you stay away from them, okay, you'll get it back.

Okay? Trust me, because you're gifted. Okay, I listen to your stuff before. you came on. Okay. I mean, you're gifted. Okay. But there's nothing cooler than being a chef. And when we were talking about it beforehand, you lit up like a Christmas tree. Like, you really love it. So you said, you said, you had a story about it. You said, no, no, no, bitch, the story's cooler. And I said, save it for the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it to me. So, like, the whole chef thing, it just trips everyone out because, first of all, you don't see anyone young cooking, the meals I'm

cooking like traditional makes get food passed down from generations you know like or even have the love for it because you're young what the fuck tell your mom to order you pizza or get the new Minecraft meal at McDonald's or go try the fucking pickle lemonade at Popeyes or go get some crumbled cookie with seven million grams of sugar you know like it's perfect it's meant for kids to just go out and get their food like that it's even easier when the meals come in little packs at the at the stores, they're literally promoting people to not cook anymore. Right. And it's like, damn near, soon enough, they're going to lock up the vegetables.

Like, right now I'm enjoying the fact that ingredients are still, oh shit, I don't know, they're going up, but they're available. And, like, growing up, like, I would do all this music shit, you know how we were saying, like, it would kill the vibe, like, all these business people and all these suits and all these dickhead rappers we have to be around, you know, like, all the people that we had to, like, work with would kill our vibe. but every single day when I get home, I have a home-cooked meal by my family,

and it just smacks reality back into me, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it's not even about the food. Like, I'm not, I'm not, feel me? Big bear, right on. I'm not big, I'm not big, I'm not big, I love the vibes. Stop, stop, stop. Show that camera, that eight-pack again.

No, no, no, no. We're going to get, you're going to get more ass than a toilet seat in a minute. Okay. No, no, seriously, you're going to get more ass than a bus bench. Go ahead and open that stuff. God damn it! These kid.

I'm saying it's not about the... Dude, kid, your future is an only fan. You make a million bucks a month. If you could do that only fans. Hey, come in soon. Coming soon. I got you. Come in soon.

Unreal. I'm saying, though, like, let me be the... Let me be the one to tell you that food isn't just about eating and getting fat. because every time I bring up food to someone who's not a foodie, they're like, no, that's too much sugar, but it's too much fat, but there's that, like, can you vibe for a second? Can we just enjoy the moment? Like, put the big-ass plate, put the cartutory there,

let's not eat it, the charcutor, wherever the fuck you call it. Put that shit there and just let's have a picnic. Let's drink our remosos, eat a cracker, and throw it away. Whatever. I don't want to waste food, so we all eat it. But I'm just saying, like, it's about the vibes, you know? Like, we don't do sushi on Sundays because sushi, just pops up at the door.

It's because we're going to watch movies. We're going to watch our shows when they come out. We're going to eat the sushi. That's part of the vibe. Can I ask you a question. Yeah. Do your parents ever say, finish your plate because they're a kid starving?

Yes. They did, right? Yes. But we finished the plate. We finished the leftovers. We finish everything. But let me ask you a question. When they said that,

truth, tell me the truth. Weren't you thinking, like, this shit's going to really get to South Africa. Really? I was like, you're not going to send it to Africa, right? Like, who's, like, if I don't eat it, who's going to eat it? Right?

Honestly, you know, that thought would have come to my head, right? For a second, like, you're not going to send this plate to Africa if I don't finish it. And he's like, oh, but your cousin's sleeping on the couch and he's hungry when he wakes up. Oh, six of my cousins come running in it. Okay, but if your cousin is in the house, wouldn't, you want to save some food for the man when he woke up off the couch? Hell, no, he's going to get his one way or another. You go fall asleep and you're going to wake up and they're going to be shit.

Oh, really? That's the way it works. Our house is like, so then why not just give somebody like a little dose of NyQuil, okay, knock him out so you can eat their potatoes? Like, that's crazy. He's, he say Bill Cosby then take their food. Said the rehab guy. Unreal. I take it back. I'm sorry.

But we have so many, like, Mexicans are word known for having, like, a lot big family, you know? Yes. So, like, people tell me, like, in the videos, sometimes I'll do 10 videos a day. They're like, what do you do with the food? I'm like, bro, I just call, make one phone call. They come running in, like, a fucking, like cockroaches, like, boom, boom. Everything's gone, quick. you're doing the cooking on on YouTube? No on TikTok. Okay, you're doing the cooking on TikTok.

Yeah. And I'll just, so every food is one meal. So like, I mean, every one, every food, I'm a dumb ass, hold on. No, no, no, you're good. Every food is one video. So, like, say every meal is one video. Yeah, yeah.

Well, not. It's like every, yeah, not even meal. Like, it could be, say, I'm making tacos with rice and beans. Uh-huh. It's three videos. Taco. Today I'm making. making carna salo tacos.

Today I'm making friolis. Today I'm going to show you how to make rice. It's three videos. I post those on TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram. I get paid from YouTube shorts. I get paid from TikTok. They're a little one-minute program. So as long as the video is a minute.

Instagram, do it for free, but that's for all my sponsorships come from. And then if I want to, I'll do a YouTube video about the whole process of the thing. Not the food part. Oh my. By the time I finish my food and by the time I eat, I'm done with work. Dylan, I just figured out why nobody works anymore. You're all working, but they're not going into an office. They're not working for employers.

They're all working for themselves. It's like I tell some of my family members who sell like al al-A frescas and like food on the street. I'm like, if you were to just record it, You would have to make it one time, and you're going to get like $1,000 from that one time. You're the customer just drinking. Like, every time I make Iowa fresca, I get, like, one to five million views on each platform. So that generates enough revenue for at least a work day, you know, if you were out at the flea market selling outlaws. And you don't have to be in the sun, and then you can spend the rest of your day with your kids or making more money if that's needed, you know?

Dude, you're the best. You're the best. Appreciate you, but... No, you just are. You got it. You got... Hey, do you want to monetize all this stuff, Dylan? Because we can take this stuff, whatever it is, and just give it to charity.

Just find charities to give it to. Right? Then we can put a water up and just have these guys write the checks to charity, no? Yeah. That's cool. Dude, that's light work. All right. The hardest part of...

about that is literally just, I guess, knowing how to film it, the right angles, or, like, editing it, you know? Like, most people know how to film. You just hit record. But, like, it's the editing part where you're, like, trimming every little clip and you start realizing it, is it really going to be worth it?

But, like, it's worth it to me. It's always worth it. Oh, my God, it's totally worth it to me. Do you know why? Why? Because Dylan does it. Oh, Dylan, is it worth it? It's worth it.

All right. See, that's why we need a camera there to capture that small. Yeah. It's like, because, you know, it's like half the time people are going, is there really a Dylan? Dale, who the man, the myth. Is it right? What do you want me to ask, Lisa?

A little bit more about the cook, because it seems like his was creative off, obviously. Isaac and stuff, but it seems like you have a lot of cooking and it's creative for you. Can you tell us, like, about that process and something? of your favorite things that you like to cook. Can you tell me some of the favorite things you like to cook? So for me, bro, honestly, I don't think you would like any of the stuff that I cause.

That's nonsense. No, you like seafood? I like, I like, I like really spicy. Well, well, check this out. I like, I like really, I don't like, when I tell them hot at the, at the store, at the restaurant, I say, not for a gringo for you. right so I mean and that's how I do it I mean but then my burns for two days every day in there is very strong right yeah but I recommend I don't really like seafood in my in my Mexican food I don't know but that's because probably because I've never

had it done right or I've never you know had something look if you made me you can come back here and you're going to do a whole cooking show here. Oh yeah, let's do it. It looks crazy. This one? Yeah, it's gold. Oh, we'll do it in the other one. The other one's crazier, but this one looks gold and ready to be played with.

I didn't realize it, but she looks like a little virgin back there. I can break her in. It's actually, dude. Whoa, am I you, freaky? This is his cooking freaking. Hand me that. Hand me that. Can me show you?

Let me show you. No, no, let me show you. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Yes. This is, you just wanted to. Oh, no, I did not say that. I didn't talk about the stove and the seat. Oh, the stove.

I thought you were talking about my Kobe Bryant Bumble hat. I definitely was not. Hey, R&P the bike mama. Yeah. Are we going to lay him rock this whole podcast? We can let him rock on every podcast. I like that. That's the Mamba mentality right.

You know, I didn't even. He was great. I loved him. But you know when I fell in love of him? When after he, after he, after he's like watching all those interviews and stuff? Watching, that man taught me how to be a better father. I am. That's real.

And that's everything. He was just the best father. And I know a few people that know him. And it was, you know what I did? I turned the Empire State Building, purple and gold. the day or maybe the night he died. The night he died, yeah. What do you mean? Why that?

Well, my buddy across the street from me in Malibu on Broad Beach has an iPhone, and he's the one responsible for turning the Empire State building different colors. From his phone? From his phone? Yeah, he does that. From his phone in Malibu. He controls. Yeah.

He controls it. And so I called him and I said, hey, man, I need you to do me a favor. And he said, the owners are in New Zealand. I don't think I can do it. I don't want to get in trouble. And I said, dude, you're not going to get in trouble. You're going to be a hero. You just did the right thing.

Okay? They're going to think you're a star player. Come on, man. Do this for me. And he never got back to me. and I was watching Sports Center and I saw it on Sports Center and I just started bawling.

That was beautiful. Yeah. That is crazy. So I guess I didn't do it. He did it. Hey, no, but you did that. I did that. W. Men's.

Shout out to bro too. I finished the story, the cool story. No, yeah. So because we talked about it and we were talking about that chef, that chef show. Yeah. Right?

Tell me about, and then I said, when we get on here, or just like, don't say anything about you've only been doing this for a short period of time. He said, no, no, no, no. That's the best part. That's the best part. That's the best part is, like, people don't get it.

Like, at least say you're sitting from home right now, right? And you're thinking, I got to wake up. I got to go to work tomorrow. This is that. But I'm going to watch Chef Suu's podcast because I love his food. I love his recipes. Like, you know, or you're just Mexican supporting me or whatever. Or you're just a fan from the music or the clothing brand or whatever.

Bro, I literally started. doing the cooking stuff, like a year and a half, maybe two years ago, time went by so fast since then. But in the first month of posting these videos, I had an email from Gordon Ramsey asking me to be on top level chef. And the only reason I turned it down was because I wasn't trying to go over there in Ireland and leave my pop. My pops is literally first month of training. By the way, my pops isn't go to chef's school or nothing like that. My pauses is at a restaurant. My pops is, he was a construction worker, you know, like he's just, really Mexican.

We're from Micho Khan, like the center of food over there in Mexico. And like, just food has always been the most important thing, right? So back to what I was saying to you guys.

We did this training for a month. I said, Dad, every time you cook, let me stand next to you, let me record and teach me how to do this shit. Like,

I'm going to be sitting around talking to you while you cook anyways. I'm not just going to be in my room. Tudence ready, you know, like, I'm sitting right here like pulling stuff out,

trying it. I'm like, Oh, what you're putting that? Oh, okay. I thought you used olive oil. Oh, okay. Ooh, all right. That's what I like, right?

Started recording it, posting them, and, like, it was a jug. Like, is Chef Sui? Like, you know, Suey's a rapper. Suey's doing the music stuff. Like, so when I said Chef Sui, like, shut your ass off. You ain't a chef. You just started, you know? Like, you just make this video one time.

Now you're a chef. It's like if I went out there, it's karate suey. But at some point, they took it all serious because they're like, bro, these are traditional bomb-ass meals. How the fuck does this young-ass kid know how to do this? When my dad's just coaching me through it, you know? And then, I mean, first month I had deals with El Pollo, avocados from Mexico,

I had Gordon-Ramsey. I don't know. Hold on a second. What does El Pollo Loco get out of it? They get to post me on their page. Why wouldn't they just post you on their page anyway? Because they can't do that. They have to go through like,

like industry standards of like paying out every person who pops up on. They also pay, they paid me to try their new carnitas because they knew if they wanted to get to my community and their target audience is the people watching my videos, they're like, you make garnitas and go viral and teach people out to make the best ones. So you should come in and try ours, you know? Really?

And they were actually bomb as fuck and they did their thing on them. And I went in there, I tried them. It was actually really funny because when I went to go do that sponsorship, ship, I pulled up to the store, I got the boy of the local, they paid me my money, I did my whatever. I went outside and I jumped started the car, I went home. And I see the workers inside. Like when I walked in, they're like, oh my God, like everyone took pictures and everything. And I'm outside, jumpstarting of the car. And I'm just like, bye guys. Like, it's real life.

I'm new to this too. The other, they acted like, I'm like a rich, famous superstar. I'm like, bro, I'm broke, you know, I'm just doing what I got to do. But you don't look broke. You got all that ice around. Oh, no, I broke right now. Not right now. Oh, back then. Back then.

Right. So, you know, that was my situation right then or there. What you do with your money? So my mom and dad have been retired for eight years since my first song dropped. I told them to retire. I take care of the majority of my family too. And then, you know, also my brother is full. I want to stay at home family.

You know? So I tell my family, stay at home. kick back. Anything I do, put your hands in it. We work as a team. If I'm selling hoodies, you guys help me ship them. Mom on the website. I'm designing. We're all working with materials. We're moving boxes together. We don't pay a facility. We ship a thousand hoodies if we have to. We have had to. I have pictures of like stacks of boxes in the backyard. Like we're not getting a warehouse. We're doing this shit out the crib. We don't pay designers. We don't pay none of that. We just do it ourselves. I want a hoodie. I got you. I got you. No, no, no.

I want to pay for the hoodie. No, no, no. Dylan, on the way out, make certain they have a link or whatever, however you do it, to send everybody to the hoodies, everybody to the chef stuff. See, that's phenomenal. You just made me hungry and I'm already full. We just ate and now I'm hungry.

You know, we don't want to know something crazy. I saw all these people in public before. And I was just looking at them, like, bro, he's looking at me weird. He might like me like a dude, right? And I'm just like, I'm like, chill, bro. Like, let me just keep walking. And I'm like, bro, like, he looks like it. And I'm like, is this motherfucker's mouth watering?

I walk up to him and I'm like, what's up, bro? He's like, yeah, let me get a picture, bro. Dead ass, bro. You made my mouth water, bro. You made my mouthwater when I've seen you. And I'm like, pause, but resume because I know what you mean. I know what you mean. He's like, bro, it's because he always pop up with like all the foods.

So when I see you, I'm just like, oh, I'm thinking about all the videos I've seen, you know? That's so good, man. But, yeah, back to what I was saying, though, about the chef stuff, just so that we could close that topic in. It all started with the music. And then I did my clothing brand. Then I was in between doing content, YouTube, like, stuff like that. And then I was just, like, did the cooking videos one day.

It just started blowing up. And then, you know, people know me as Chef Suu, and that's like my most famous gig yet. And like I really just feel like the reason why it's so much cooler is because like, I'm just truly, you could do whatever you put your mind to.

Like I was dead as a rapper on tour dropping all these songs. I had a record deal and all this and that. I did the clothing brand, sold so many that I'm stuck in the house shipping for weeks. Like I've sold out all those products. And then I went and I decided to be a chef and go around.

Ramsey's hitting me up, you know? Like, it's... So tell me about that. The Gordon Ramsey's though? Yeah. So, I mean, I got an email and I'm like, it's just fake, obviously. Like, you're probably just fucking trolling me. Like, I'm barely learning, like, the temperatures of how to cook and now I have to be on this show.

They wanted me to go to Ireland for a month. And, like, I don't even know where that is or what that is. I don't know. I'm not even to say anything about it. But, like, I was like, bro, my dad, you can't go to Ireland with me. So, like, I'm not going to go without the person who's teaching me how to cook to go on a cooking competition show. Right.

Right. And then, like, a lot of the – I started talking to that more, and I was like, maybe it'll be worth it. And I just talked to them. And then they're like, yeah, bro, we're going to take this percentage after you come on our show because we're going to make you famous. I'm like, you're asking me to be a celebrity chef on top-level chef and you want to take my endorsements after.

Like, you're not putting me on, bro. I'm already getting endorsements. You guys are one of the few. You know, like, I'm not giving that up and staying over there for a month at the peak of my chef career. You got what I'm saying? I'm just like, also, no one could go.

And your first interview is going to be in the show, so be ready. Yeah, these people act. Like, they act like they're so, so big. Like, you're asking me for promo, literally. You're hitting me up for promo. Yeah. You know, so like, I'll love to Gordon.

I hope to do a video him one day, give him some real Mexican food. but I mean I'm just not interested in being on the show Doesn't that guy yell at people on the show? Yeah I'm gonna need a fade if he's yelling at me like that I said I'm gonna need a fate if he's yelling at me like there I like vibes in the kitchen

I like music on everyone catching a vibe You over here yelling at me I'm gonna pop off That'd be awesome Unless he's teaching me But if you want to see how I cook Shut the fuck up sit down Get your plate when it's time

You Muppet So check it out I um we have a good vibe we have a good conversation always and you know this started out as just a fentanyl thing right

an awareness for fentanyl so kids wouldn't die and parents wouldn't have to deal with the pain but man it's tough to talk about fentanyl it just is I mean it just destroys you but I got a hit on it no yeah I mean it's the show

yeah and you ever done fentany? No. Do press perks? No. No, never. Never?

Cocaine? Dude, you've never done any drugs? You don't do drugs? No, I don't do drugs. See, the thing is, is, like, a lot of rappers fall victim to that stuff, because they don't have a family around them, or they don't have, like, someone who will smack the shit out of them. It's also why they move the way they move, you know, and do the things they do.

for me that's why I put all my money not into security or not into foreign cars or paying friends to make me look cool or be around me you know like I put my money into my family the foundation the things that keep me me you know once I did this music stuff and blew up everyone I lost everyone every friend that I had is now become a customer all they want is hey post me hey don't forget about me I'm like hey don't why don't you answer because you're famous you're a superstar Oh, there's that. Like, no, my phone was dead.

You know, like, you lose everyone. So I wanted to make sure I kept my family close to me, so that I always remained me. I knew the internet would chew me up and spit me out. But, you know, my family is the thing that keeps me sane, you know? So, like, having my family there, like, I have this video where I was, like, 13 years old, in the strip club eating cookies and milk to one of my songs in New York.

And people are like, that's so crazy this and that. How do your parents feel like they're on the other side of that camera, like over there, sitting right there, having real drinks, their own personal bitch dancing? You know, like, they're, you know, they're right there with me. I'm not going to some janky-ass strip club in the middle of the night with all my parents. I'm 13, you know, like, who's- You're going to take your parents to a strip club for show? I'll still take them right now. Take your parents to a strip club.

Yes, I took my parents to the strip club before. Oh, you want to hear the best strip clubs? Yes. Sorry ever. I'll tell you I tell me the best strip club to go

and I've been to strip club in 25, 30 years Oh yeah I mean you know I mean But the best

strip club story ever Let me ask you a question I heard that at every show at least one person falls out and dies

that's what I heard and that's what all these rappers are telling me that's crazy like you know I actually never

really been in the in the crowd at the shows until recently. Yeah. And I could definitely say that's true. Like, I went to this one show, where I was at Rolling Loud, and I was backstage in, like, 2019,

and then I heard Mo Bamba playing my Shek West. I don't know if you know what that sounds. I got, oh, it's the latest performance song, right? So I tell my dad, I'm like, hey, we need to go to the fucking crowd for this. And he's like, fuck, all right, let's go. Let's get you in there.

So we run from back, backstage to the crowd We're in there I'm like yeah Dude falls on the Right and I'm instantly I was already thinking Nah bro like someone's gonna try to

Like do something you know Because everyone's all drunk and shit I didn't know what they were on He like Like it felt like he was pushing me I push him And he just hits the floor Like not head down

Just just rolls over And I'm just like And I told my father I was like hey what's up with that You know like boom He's like Kids on drugs Like

I'm just like like, what the hell, bro? I'm trying to enjoy the show, but, like, it looks like he died. You know, like, he just, like, lifeless body. And then they come, they pick him up on a wheelchair. My dad's like, you might be O-D or something. They put him on a wheelchair, like, we told the security. Then they put him on the chair, and I never see someone on the chair like that.

Like, they have the seatbelt on it. And it's like his body did not have, like, any bones. He looked like he was made of rubber. And he's just, like, silicone, like a doll, just hanging out the chair. And I'm just like, the whole song's playing. I'm just looking at him being carried away. the wheelchair and I'm just like, yeah. See, that's the part that pisses me off because everybody's desensitized to it.

Okay, everybody. You got these kids jumping around, okay, and somebody falls out, nobody gives a shit. And, you know, it's just about somebody's kid. Yeah. That mother is swinging from a shower rod, man. She don't want to live. Never. I mean, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life.

I mean, how many friends do you have diaphethnal or acquaintances that you know? Honestly, a lot of older people that we know, like, especially like girls in music videos. Like I hear like, well, she died. Like, how? Like, it's always like the most random, like, well, it's usually the girls because guys are giving it to them so that they can get with her. Yeah. Okay. Because they lack the game.

Okay? to make it consensual and get this woman hot for them, right? So it's easier to pull a Bill Cosby. It's more so, like, I feel like the harder part with the young generation and fentanyl is hip hop is glorifying it so on a crazy scale to the point where it's like... That's why you're here, big boy. Yeah. That's why you're here.

They glorify it to the point where it's like, like, kids want to pop perks to be like their favorite rapper, but your favorite rapper's not really popping perks or I see to be dead by now because they're all fake. So it's like, how are you promoting something that, a drug that doesn't even exist anymore? The doctors aren't even giving this shit out barely, you know, like, to the point where it's like you're promoting literally fattenile at that point. You know, like you had this drop on our clothing brand that was like when perks were super popular and it wasn't all, you know, fentanyl out. We did a perk 30 and it was a heart. And it was like, It was just a heart, but it looked like a perk 30.

It had the line in the 30. And then, like, everyone loved it, and everyone was buying it. And, like, these people who don't do perks. It's just the hip-hop culture, you know, like. Were those yours? The huddies? Were those your shirts? Yeah, yeah, from the clothing band, right?

And then... How do you feel about that now? That was a mistake, you know? Now that I see what it's doing and all that. So we stopped selling those and we're, like, completely away from the perk wave or anything like that. But it's like, it wasn't just that. It was like, we did all, it was a whole drug drop where it was like some were Zan,

somewhere Molly, like all different pills. It was like car fresheners. I smelled like, uh, promethazine, you know, like, it was just great flavor. And people were like, that's so cool. And then like, I dropped some pillowcases that were like, um, like a holder for like a gunbox. I'm basically dropping toy versions of like hip hop culture, things they glorify. So I'm not speaking from someone that. It's just talking shit about them, you know?

I've been in that situation before where I'm the actual person glorifying it. And my explanation for doing so is that's what everyone's doing in hip-hop. And I'm a kid, literally when I was 13, my first song, you know what I said? The first opening line of my song, pull up with the Molly I got perks. Perks. It's the opening line of my first song ever. Right? This is in 2017.

I was 13. I was 12 when I made it, and then I turned 13 and dropped it. But that's what you're supposed to say at 12 or... You know why I said that? Because you were 12 or 13. Yeah, no, so I was in the car on the way home from school, and I was really motivated this day to make a song. And my aunt is the only person in my family who plays hip-hop

because it's like on the radio. And she happened to pick me up that day. And I hear in the car, I hear a future he says, Marley Perkis sits, Perkis sits, chase a chick, never chase a bitch. And I'm like, Perkins, it. Oh,

Perkins. Okay. That's what they like. I go and I'm watching all these videos of rappers. Oh, look, perks. Look at these hands. Ah, drugs, drugs. Everyone's like, who.

And I'm like, all right, well, if I show my family life and, you know, my fishing, how big the bass are that I'm catching and how cute my dogs are when they lay around, you know, like, or like, no one's going to give a fuck. I got to go do something else, you know, like, go write a book or keep it to yourself. because in hip-hop culture, it's that. We're going to need another podcast. Yeah. And so...

No, I mean, not for us. We're going to do one for us. We're going to need another podcast. This is starting to weigh on me. It's starting to weigh on me now. The panel? Yeah. I feel it.

And, like, I'm trying to just explain from, like, the deeper depths of someone who was actually, like, I could understand the, like, Like, I was someone that was glorifying it. You know what I'm saying? Now I don't talk about it. Now it's, obviously, it's a whole chaos. But, like, every time I would go somewhere, they're always like, oh, Molly and Perks, you got that, oh, this, that, you want to do drugs, this, that.

Like, it's cool to see that. And then I was always never doing drugs or never even, like, I was around them all that. Not a pot? Yeah. Not right now. But I don't ask you a question. Do you do you do you do you buy your weed in a dispensary or you get it on the street? If I get any weed nowadays, it's like directly from growers and stuff.

Okay, Lucy. I don't know what the hell of that means. But people will grow it basically. Yeah, but why not do it, why not get it from a dispensary? Because that shit. They're just going to grow it and sell it to the dispensary. But it's like, mine's like private labeling people, you know? It's like something trustworthy.

but you're certain it's not it's not laced with fentanyl yeah signed uh i mean i mean i don't know i've never even heard of that okay well it's a thing now believe me i've done my parents are lying when they started telling me that no no well i no one's important enough to lie to and i don't lie okay so i'm telling you that's a thing so it would make me feel more comfortable is if you only got that stuff at the dispensary because once you get it at the disperseys. Because once you get it at the dispensary, dispensary is not going to take any of that stuff because if they do, they're going to lose their license. You just have to make certain it's a legit dispensary and not one of those pop-ups, right? And then they're open until they get shut down. And then they pop up somewhere else

the next day. That's what happens. No, yeah, for sure. If that's really true, than I'm staying away from anything that's not in the dispensary, dude. Yeah, it's easy. Yeah. Oh. Okay, so you're going to pay an extra 20 bucks an ounce, 30 bucks. Who cares? You know, you just said that you're in love with your family.

Yeah. Okay, and they all rely on you. It's a family business. You're the family business, right? Okay. But where's the family business without you? No, you're right. Right.

Yeah. Thanks for telling me about that too, though, because I would have never known that, like, it was actually, for real. Like, there's many people I'm around that smoke. Nobody ever brought that up. Well, I've kind of been doing this a while. Yeah. Yeah. But, no, yeah, I've seen it all, like, just people glorifying it.

The only reason I stayed out of it is because I understand how bad that is. I grew up with, like, my parents, the way they are, they will take in all their, friends and family that were dealing with all these drug issues that are addicted, they would take them in. Like, you could come stay with us. We don't have that much. You can stay with us. And as long as you're not doing drugs, we'll keep the roof over your head and feed you.

These are grown men, 30-year-old people that I had to share a room with. I'm already sharing a room with my brother. Now we have to share a room with this 30-year-old person who's trying to come back off drugs, you know? and like your parents your parents had an unlicensed rehab yes that's awesome and yeah and i grew up with like just different people we love them so much and you know we took them in like family and we tried to do the best for as many as we could i like your parents yeah i should have brought them they would have been viving for sure oh my god do you know if you would have brought your parents i would have lost my

i was so happy i probably would have cried like a little i wanted to ask you like a What made you bring rappers on here, you know? Because obviously you told me you're 58 and, you know, you have a lot of different references and, you know, different type of vibe to you that I feel like I wouldn't expect to see you around rappers or choosing rappers as a preferred guest on your show. You're the kids who are dying. Huh? You're the kids who are dying. I see what you're saying. And then because most of you are glorifying it.

The kids who are listening to you are dying. and I have teenagers and I thought if I didn't do it I would be punished so I didn't have a choice I feel that I didn't want to do a podcast I'm an executive chairman

of a healthcare corporation nobody can believe I'm doing this damn nobody trust me in my world everybody is pissed off that I'm doing this and I don't care because doing the

thing is hard sometimes. I've never even seen a podcast. I've never even listened to a podcast. Ever. I think it's stupid. This isn't for money. This is to do the right thing because I can. That's why. That's solid, man. Not really. That is. I feel the pain all the time. The meaning behind it is everything, you know? Yeah, and if I wasn't so damn tortured, it would be great. I feel that. I really had to ask that question because throughout the podcast, they kind of pointed to that direction.

Yeah. But, you know, I had interest if you actually cared about hip-hop or anything like that or the culture. I care about kids. I don't really give a shit about anybody but the kids and the parents to keep the, because it's not something I would just die

like my heart would break just to think about it is more than I can bear so yeah so give me three tips on what I could

you know just around the house find and whip up something from my kids I think you gotta just I think Damn, bro, it's hard I'm just like giving you straight Mexican advice That's what I want

Mexican advice Mexican advice Damn straight You got it bro If you're gonna give your kit Some like chips or something Just sauce them up You just know everything could be

Sossed up I look at this orange juice right Uh huh Just orange juice But if I were to just rim it With some Chamoy d'Ain Or some margarita salt It's over

It could be the worst See you gave me the best Orange Juice in the world Fresh squeeze The oranges came from the Himalayan mountains and family all different types of things used for these orange juice. You could have brought me the worst orange juice in the world. Just rimmed with Chamoy and tahin or some margarita salt and lemon. Put a little wedge on that.

My son does it totally. I would have to take the tchine to rub that on. Okay. See? Yeah. So I would say just get saucy. Number one, get saucy with it. Number two, get your bases together like your beans, rice, get those formulas together because they're,

Way easier than you think. Right. And number, the last tip I could give you is, uh, turkey's ass. You gotta put some fucking baloney in there. Baloney. I like them straight prison sandwiches.

Slat the baloney in there. Leave your little air, air one tomato out of here, bro. Just baloney, cheese, mustard, mail. Throw some hot chitos in that bitch for the crunch. Look at that.

You see that, guys? It's beautiful. Just get some. Saucy. That's as good as it gets. It's as good as good. Suey saucy.

Yeah. Suey saucy. That's awesome. All right, where can we find you? You can find me at Ex-Soo Generis on Instagram or Hey I'm Sui on TikTok or just look to Sue Generis on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud, or just type Chef Sui anywhere in the world. You can find Chef Shoeh Shit.

That's cool. Hey, do me a favor, will you? Okay, I'm going to run out to go to my cardiologist before my heart falls out. Okay? Seriously. I, you know, I mean, I've got small kids. You know, I got to make it till tomorrow. So I'm going to go do that. And you're in the, and you're in the, you're in the Bay Area.

Yep, San Jose, California. You're always second chef in the Bay Area. What? Second chef. I chef. Chef Curry. bro, there's no way Shout out to Wardell

I'm so upset you lost last night Bro, oh my God, he sold my parley That's all right Hey, chef curry Egg chef suey question mark God, he's the great greatest We'll make some curry

Before we Before we end I just want to say one thing And then you'll walk us out of here Okay All right Coach Sabin, you're breaking my heart Okay

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