Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 155- The Exorcist (1973)

Episode Date: December 18, 2017

In this week's episode, we're bringing back the guestisode! We're joined by our friend Jeremy to discuss the 1973 classic, "The Exorcist." Special topics for your consideration include: what happens when you make a person who doesn't like horror movies watch "The Exorcist," is Sharon the demon?, a...ROCKY understanding of when the film "Rocky" was released, Dee Snyder, Pazuzu and a new way to answer all annoying questions.  Did you miss our other critically acclaimed films? Check out just a few of them: Episode 45- "Rosemary's Baby," Episode 54- "The Shining" and Episode 55- "Silence of the Lambs." Have you seen this one? What did you think? Let us know your thoughts at facebook.com/werewolfambulance, on Twitter @werebulance or on Instagram @werewolfambulance. You can also email us for our segment "MAILBAG!" at [e-mail] and if you're feeling super generous, leave us an iTunes rating and review.  Guys, bad news: the holiday season is upon us. Good news: we've got your gift list totally figured out! Give the gift of handmade horror stuff delivered to you once a month by visiting our sponsor, Cryptocurium, at www.cryptocurium.com where you can sign up to have that sweet handmade stuff delivered to your door monthly via the Parcel of Terror. You can also get into The Order of the Thinned Veil, an appreciation society of all things Halloween that you should totally join. Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast.   

DIMEY. DIMEY. DEMY, why you not have guest episodes, DEMY? Why you not have guest episodes, DEMY? We have guest episode. Can I bring you a guest all the way from Canada? DEMY, why you do this to me? Bring me guest. D-me, you know what? I'm totally forgot about that part.

Deemie. The parts. We got a guest. We got a movie. We got a podcast. Who are we? I'm Katie. I'm Alan. I'm Jeremy. Hey Jeremy. Where we're a fan to ones. Hey, I've never called you Jeremy in my life. I'm hedges. That's better. Now they know your full name. I can't find you. They specifically do not know our full names. They do. They do. They do. Yeah. I used to accidentally put it into the produced to buy section. Oh, yeah. That wasn't good. No. They. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We were. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. the. We're. the. We're. the. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. We're. They do. Yeah. Remember I used to accidentally put it into the produced to buy section?

Oh yeah. That wasn't good. Now, no, we were young broadcasters back then. Yeah. No, we were still middle-aged. Well, at least me. Dee me. Hello, Jeremy. Hello. I'm not going to call you Jeremy. How is fine. How is Canada? It's good. It's good. It's as cold as it gets in Pittsburgh right now. So during the winter I mean. Like negatives. It's well negatives in the Celsius sense but I know that doesn't mean anything. Zero is the same as 32. It doesn't ever get in the negatives in Pittsburgh really. With the wind chill. really. With a wind chill. I got that wind chill down there by the river. They got to close the Mawn Wharf. It gets flooded and it freezes over.

But like everything after November is negatives. So. She is. It's like, the snowed. to hang out with Hedge, get in toucest, we'll set you up. Come to Ottawa because you definitely don't live here. Jeremy is a long-time friend of both Katie and I who recently moved to Canada, and we never had him as a podcast guest while he lived with us in Pittsburgh.

Specifically because this is an interesting scenario. This is our experiment, yeah. This is our experiment because all of our previous guests have been horror movie fans or movie fans who also enjoy horror, who have brought us their favorite movie. Hedges doesn't like horror movies and we were like, well, fucking watch the exorcist. Yeah, we'll pick the best one for you. Yeah, we picked it. We picked it and we're going to talk it. Demi. Come to Dimmie. Did you have that one loaded for a while or that to?

It's just came to me. It's like one of those things that I can't come, can't stop from coming out of my mouth. What is she actually saying? She's a name, Damie. His name is Damien and she calls him Dimmie. This is father. I thought at first it was like Timmy. I thought it was Timmy at first. Timi. But you know with the accent you know. Sure. So we're learning now that Hedges is not a hundred and nine like myself and didn't watch this with subtitles? No. Oh no I watched it with no subtitles on my laptop with headphones. And then halfway through I took the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones the headphones th an th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to th-I th-I thi. told. told. told. to tom-I tom-I tom-I tom-I tom-I thi. I was. I was. I was thi. I was thi. I was th. I was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. toe. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm. tm. tm-I today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. my laptop with headphones. And then halfway through, I took the headphones out,

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This is the third horror movie I've ever seen if you count the other two. What were, which were what? Go ahead. Uh, 28 days later, which you guys have reviewed. Yes. And, uh, the witch. Yeah. Yeah, which we've it here. Yeah.

Should we talk about this movie? Yeah, how do you want to get into this? Let's start with the fact that I forgot all about the Iraq scenes. And when it came up and just said like northern Iraq, Rob started booing? And I was like, must do you? Well, I was like, oh, I didn't know you guys picked an Indiana Jones film that I hadn't seen yet or... What old Indiana Jones?

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I actually really liked the exposition. I mean, but for me it was like, this is minutes that won't be terror-inducing. I mean, they were a little bit, but it was like cutting into the time of the movie, so I felt, you know, like I was. There was going to be less shit that freaked me out. It was cutting down down down down down down the more the more the more the more the more the more the more the out. It was cutting down on the spooch. The lower-end there was. Yeah, I don't know.

I've seen, you know, I like this. I like the opening stuff in Iraq, but I agree that like, if they just started off with the Wigebord stuff, you'd be fine. Yeah, I forgot about times in my life. I was like, oh, this movie is about Father Marin. Is it? Yeah. The whole, but he's the exorcist.

Well, yeah, but he. So it's like, but it's like, but it's like, the story is the stay. But we're just coming in from this. This is like our entree into the story is Reagan. Spoilers when he dies at the end, like, I don't feel particularly sad. I mean, I'm like much more sad for Dimmie, right? Oh, 100%? Yeah. Still tear up every time I watch this movie.

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But I couldn't tell if they were cheering against against her or with her. It was very confusing. It doesn't seem like she knows either. No. Also, given the state of that director, he probably didn't know even. He's like the precursor to that movie Arthur starring Dudley Moore. Oh my god. You fucking Nazi. What a dick, Burke is. And the guy's like, I'm Swiss.

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yep, no we do. I know a rat when I hear one. It sounds like a bathtub being thrown aflat of stairs. You nutsy fuck. But what is it's the demon? It's the demon? It's like, she uses the Weegee Board? Well, she's been using the Weegee Board, but it's like it's a before we see it before we know about it. Yeah And I did listen to a podcast called Inside the Exorcist, which I highly recommend. It's a seven-part thing where they go like deep dive into the exorcist. Oh, so you can explain it to us. Uh, probably not. You know how good my retention skills are. But, they they they they they they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the. the. the. thi. the. Probably not. You know how good my retention skills are. But he goes into the whole backstory of like the actual possession that this is based on, that took place in Maryland. And so when she's in the attic and like that candle like flames up real high, yeah, what was that about? It's something that happened to like the mother of this kid who was possessed. It was a young boy and they were not rich tha tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho who was possessed. It was a young boy and they were not rich, but yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. So in order you need to read the book and know about the history to understand bits and pieces of this or the whole thing. Or you just go along for the scare ride when all the really freaky shit starts happening. Yeah, I never thought about any of this before like how the demon gets there or what, I mean, I really considered the you're just like get to the pea soup and the real weird stuff with the crucifix yeah yeah also did strange land with D. Snyder from Twisted sister hell yeah Captain Howdy that's gonna I was gonna say wasn't he using the screen name Captain Howdy fucking D Snyder's is he dead? No okay just thinne no and he's surprising not a right to the the the the the the the the to to to the the to to to the the to the the the to the to to to the the to the to the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the the the. the. the the. the. the. the. th No. Okay, I just thought I'd ask. No, and he's surprising and not a right-wing nut job either. Oh really? Do you say that's cool? No, but he's not the nudge.

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Welcome to my world. It's bad. So we go through, we fall in love with Reagan because she's a precocious young girl, just once a horse. I knew that was going to be upsetting to you. Why is she riding a stranger's horse? She's like, he let me ride it all around. And her mom's like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's that's a that's a's horse. He's like, he let me ride it all around. And her mom's like, that's great. I'd be like, what the fuck?

This is Washington, D.C. This isn't like fucking Green Gables out here. You know what I mean? Get off that horse. It's a stranger's horse. Why was Sharon letting this happen? That's all. Sharon lets all of this. This is all Sharon's fault. If she had been a better PA. My new theory is that Sharon is behind all of this, and I just developed it. But I'm going to do the rest of the episode like I believe it. The worst thing, the only thing I can think of, like I just saw Equus the play a few months ago, I was playing in Pittsburgh and like the riding of a stranger's horse has much different consequences than that play

that it does in this movie. Although not that different? Yeah, demon possession? Yeah, it's more sexual awakening in Nequist, so that's... And we're... It's a little bit different than this movie. But is it? Yeah.

I'm gonna go on a limb. I don't think this is like Reagan's coming of age tale. That's what you mean? I don't know. It's all I have to say about horses. What did you say? So that's all I have to say about the horse bit. So we've seen Father Caris watching Chris McNeil film her incomprehensible scene where she loves it he's delighted so happy so delighted do you fun fact about father Caress that I

learned from that podcast he is Jason Patrick of the Lost Boys the older brother Michael that's his dad really yeah also hit there his other son and Jason Patrick's brother, the little annoying kid from near dark. I hate that kid. I know you do. Oh man. Homer.

Wow. Yeah, Jason Patrick's name is Jason Patrick Miller. Interesting. Also his hair is so lustrous. Can we talk about it for a second? Father Carrass? It's so nice. Everything, he's just like the saddest rocky.

I was gonna say he's a shitty rocky, like a just a really forlorn rocky. He's every guy in the 70s that saw Rocky and went, that's me. That's pretty much me. Yeah. That's what, that would be me. I'm an underdog. Hitches, have you seen this kind of thing? I believe I've seen bits and pieces of it enough that I that I that I think the only one I actually saw was the one with the Russian, where he gets the steroids. I get the steroids.

Number one, Rocky itself is one of the most triumphed to this. Yeah, I love it. But I also love four. Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. in Siberian. When did Rocky come out relative to this? Uh, 1970, right? 71? Okay. I thought Rocky was... I don't know why I was thinking about the godfather.

I'm very confused all of a sudden. Just all these Italians and Greeks, they're all the same to me. Rocky would have been late, uh, late 70s, yeah. Oh, so that, this movie was before that. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Okay. Interesting. Because it did it did feel like that was a reference point for it. I mean, with all the talking about, well, when the detective's talking to him about, you you know, you look like a famous box or whatever and then. Oh, okay.

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I have a fun anecdote about that guy at the end of this. Great. I look forward to hearing it at the end of this. So, Father Carus goes back to D.C. And then there's the scene where the guy walks into the church and someone has put horned boobs and a penis on the Virgin Mary? Yeah I like that. I assume that's a reference to the statue that I didn't see the penis on earlier? Yeah. Gotcha. And also I think it's all supposed to be hilarious? I don't know what it's supposed to be.

It looked like something from like Mardi Gras. Like she might be going,e! Who did that though? For the demon? The demon? Okay, I keep asking the question and the answer just keeps being like the demon. Who let her ride that horse? Oh, that's a good question. Sharon. Sharon is the demon.

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Yeah. And they're like, oh, she's having a party. Okay. And they love me. And they love me. The idea of standing around a piano and singing with own insecurities that do that. I think it's because in our generation, the equivalent of that was the guy who pulls out the acoustic guitar at the party and everybody hates that guy, you know what I mean? It's true.

It's like just a different era. Yeah, and we had recorded music. Yeah. They didn't is the fantastic scene where Reagan walks in. And I love that there's the priest and an astronaut are talking to each other. I'm like, this is the beginning of a joke. But she walks in and pees on the floor and says you're going to die up there. Yeah. Which is he'll hella upsetting.

It is extremely upsetting. It is extremely upsetting. Because if your kid does that, something is terribly wrong with them. Yeah. Yeah, she's like 12. No need to pee on that floor. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. And then that poor servant has to clean it out of the carpet. She could feel so bad about that. Poor willing. She's like, I think so when she has if it's come about. I expected Chris Big Deal to be like, well put put some elbow into it, let's do this. Or just freak out and scream and swear it whoever she's talking to, like she touched throughout the movie. Yeah, she gets really unreasonably angry at that, presumably a hotel, or the operator, when she's starting to get through to the hotel in Rome, she's just fucking screaming at this lady. Trying to get in tou-to get in to get in to get in to get in to get in to get in to get in to get in the to get in to get in the s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s scete in the sc, to get in the sc, to get in to get in the ex-husband. I guess. Is this where we see the scene with the scary face that's like spliced in?

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like, oh you you just come in and work the equipment like you normally would or whatever, straight up serial killer. Where did you find that out? Um, the my favorite murder podcast, too? Oh, nice. Which I just started listening to. Yeah, I'm feel like we should give other podcast type too. You know what I mean? Like, they need listeners too. Yeah, my favorite murder is really hurting for listening.

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Yeah, they're hourly. Like, how much it would cost to put all those doctors in a room for an hour, half an hour, whatever was like in the hundreds of thousands of dollars or whatever. Yeah, but as soon as they find a new director for movie about protest, she's going to be raking into big money to be able to pay for this. Her funds seem limitless. It was just a weird moment where I was like, why are they smiling about this? I mean, they're recommending it, but then they're also like, kind of... Are they supposed to be maybe nervous about what they're doing?

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hadn't already done The Shining so we could have forced it just to watch the Shining. Oh. That's what I was really hoping to do with you all, but that's my next outing in the horror film world is to watch that. Great. Let us know how you like it. I might never talk to again, I don't know. It's not on us. You're the one doing it. We'll have you back for a quick recap of your thoughts.

Hey, just shining, a little, a little stinger at the end of the next episode. Now everything just goes to shit. Reagan is full-blown possessed, he's screaming and cursing and doing the worst stuff ever. Do we need to get into the worst stuff ever? Can we just let it go? We can let it go. All right, you guys know what it is? You've seen the movie. Well, just suffice to say, Miss I was like, because we were talking

about the movie and and about like how like upset like all these people were like were like you can't make this movie. Yeah. Like, I'll just, there's a 12 year old girl masturbating with a crucifix. And like when this scene happens, because I don't think you know what masturbating is. Yeah, that's like masturbating is some Judy Blume shit. This is not that. Yeah, it gets- It's not, are you there, God, it's me, Reagan.

It's really fucked. Also, we just said we weren't gonna talk about it. And here we are. Because you know some guy at home is like, oh, you're not even going to talk about it. Surprised you guys didn't talk about that soon. Well, now we are. Yeah, we need to go like, yeah, no further. But it's like, the shit just like goes from like, oh man, this is fucked out.

The bed's bouncing around too. Oh, fuck. This is where you would lock your to kid in house and leave. Yeah, you start over. New life, new house. Get a replacement kid, try again. Hedges, as a non-horer movie man, how did that scene sit with you? Um, you, oh, I was not expecting it. I didn't, there's parts of this movie that I know about, like I know about the Spiderwalk,

which I guess isn't part of the actual original movie, but, and like the stairs, like the shots of the stairs are very famous, talked about in my intro to film class actually when I was a freshman, and just a lot of the cinematography stuff. And you know, some of the scenes, I was not th, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, a the the the the scenes I was not aware of this scene I had never heard about it before and it was that was the moment at which I was like the anxiety reached its peak and then like kept going up. Off the chart of anxiety. And I'm glad that it kind of it like happens very quickly which is good for me at least.

Yeah. I'm glad that it would not go further or longer than that. But that was definitely the moment at which I was like, fuck. And that's the scene where Ellen Bursting got like permanent spine damage from. Because when she gets yanked backwards, I think that's that scene. Maybe it's a later scene. She gets like yanked backwards at one point, like thrown up against a wall. And they had her on a harness and some guy was pulling on a rope and they did it like 50 times in a row. When they could have a body double for that lady? She's an actress.

Because William Freak is a fucking lunatic. I'll prove my point on that with my anecdote, the priest, theus, when he goes up to do last rights for him, the priest couldn't cry. And he's like, I just can't do it. I'm not an actor, he's an actual priest. And William Freakins like, oh cool, you can't cry, smaks him across the face and goes, rolling. And the guy was just like, uh, uh, and like so. Because he just got punched in the face. Because William Freak is a monster. Is that the director?

Yeah. Or director of the French connection. I have so few reference points for movies or anything. to anything pop culture, so. I thought you were a big movie guy for some reason. I just don't know like facts and people. Scenes or scripts. I just stare at the screen and let it happen.

Now movies... That's the way to do it, really? There's those things with pages and numbers and words in them? Is that a movie? No, I couldn't tell you. Talking about Wikipedia? But she, yeah, I mean, doesn't she get slapped? I don't, I couldn't figure out who slapped her. Was it Reagan that slaps her? Her mother? Yeah. Yes. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because she gets slaps and like flies across the room. I just couldn't tell. It was hard

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fucking perfect. Fucking perfect. How gross is that vomit? When someone's like, how's your baby sleeping? I'm gonna just be like, BAH! You're gonna edit that down so I'm not just screaming. How would I edit that down to- Yeah, did you use a little thing that makes me not go- B-Buh! I don't think you can change the volume of it. I can't change the volume of it. be fine. Ahhhh. So you're just going to carry a pea soup? No, I'm just going to bar ful.

You're just going to eat pea soup all the time. Yeah, just and just in her bones. Fun fact about me, I've never had pea soup because of this movie. Is that what it is? It's pea soup and oatmeal. Yeah. To give it, it's, it's staying thouwre. You use that sound to also mean vagina a lot of the time. Not by coincidence. Because oatmeal and vaginas are one and the same.

It's sort of my smurf I just throw it in there when I need a word. Just a word. So the, Reagan keeps speaking in Father Karas' mother's voice. You just looked at me, should I do it or no? You looked at me so excited. Can I do it? Can I do it? Is this past the point where Burke is killed? Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about Burke's death.

Yeah, Burke got tossed out a window. But we've been shown that he's a drunk, so he could have just fallen as the way they're thinking about it at that point. Right. Right. Right. Until the best detective in this movie? He does have my favorite line, which is so stupid. What is it?

But when the priest is like, do people tell you you look like Paul Newman, and he just says always, like, always? There's not even a pause, he's like always. That's one of my favorite lines. I don't know why I was. Did you like when he told Dimmie that he looks like Salmene, Sal didn't even know what he's talking about. You never saw a rebel thought of cause. Isn't that Salmino?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like if he had sent you something. I'd be like, oh yeah, I knew who that is. You look like a guy who's going to come out in, I don't know, six, seven years? You're gonna go the distance. I love old dudes just immediately shit-talking each other relationship. Like, hey, we just met.

I'm just gonna start fucking with you right now. Let's see where this goes. Is that how people really talk, dudes? At least in movies in the 70s. Wasn't alive, don't know. No way to find out what happened earlier. We start to think that Reagan killed Burke. Because his head has been turned all the way around. Right, all the way around.

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it's gonna happen. They'll never, like, it doesn't even exist anymore and everything. And then it's like, that scene is like, you're saying Katie, it's like, which one are we gonna get? What? Yeah, that's a weird disconnect in this movie, and I don't understand why they didn't correct that. I don't know. Is it because her evidence is so striking? I think so. And she ticked all the boxes of speaking in a language she doesn't know and knowing information she couldn't possibly know. And having the word help me appear on her stomach. How upsetting is that scene though?

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Yep. I did not have any nightmares about it, which was very surprising. So good. Yet. Yet, I'm sure in two weeks or three weeks, nonstop. So this, the exorcism's going along, it's going really well. They're throwing holy water on her. She's not liking it.

She's spitting pea soup on everybody. Father Marin who has a heart condition and keep striking taking nitroglycerin pills. What? Is that what that was supposed to be? It wasn't, I wasn't clear on what the action was. Oh, yeah. Fliction and or the medicine was supposed to be yeah he has a weak heart okay is the implication I guess

that was like a a thing back in the day that you took the nitriclycerin to keep your heart beating I don't know what nitriclycer and it's the stuff they make dynamite out of that's okay yeah yeah yeah why would you why would that make your heart go? Medicine? Interesting. We start our medical podcast. I'll be here. Like the McElroy's already doing that, those assholes. I mean, one theme throughout this is how fucked up medicine is. That's, uh, sure.

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But and I think one thing for me with movies from a time period before CGI and all that stuff, which I love like I love practical effects. It was super super well done. Amazing. Yeah, Dick Smith. Dixmith. Dix Smith. Dick Smith. Dick sniff. it? Did you say Dick Sniff? Dick Smith? Dick sniff. Well, I don't know. Yeah, that was, it was top three creepy moments in the film for sure. Although, is this around the time that she is levitating above the bed?

Yeah, it's around that time, yeah. Okay. Because I did see the strings when she was kind of levitating. I was like, damn it. You're not supposed to look for them. See that. It was like towards the end of that scene. And I was just like, damn it, I saw the strings.

But yeah, I mean, just a general, like the head turning around and all that stuff is awesome. And her makeup is great. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially the eyes. Like I think the eyes were like just the part that, I don't know. Oh and them shit's are like super painful back of the day. They weren't like nice contacts like we have now. It was like hard things that idea? You know? God, makeup effects used to be so brutal. Like, fun fact about that, uh, the head turning around scene,

the guy who wrote the book, William Peter Blatty, when he saw the movie and saw the head turning around scene, he was like, don't you? Don't you think that's a bit much to William Friedkin? And Freakin was like, yeah, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th. th. th. th. th, th, th, the th, the thi, tho, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th. that, that, that, the, theeeat, thro-to-to-to-to-to-turning, to-to-to-to-to-too, th. the part where he was like, that's a bit much. He just thought it was like too campy or something. It's just like, and Freak was like, yeah, totally, let's do this. So after Father Marin dies is when Karas freaks out and he starts punching the shit out of Reagan, throws it on the floor?

Yeah, really hits her a lot. Not that she doesn't have a coming, being a demon and all. And we've established that he's a boxer. Oh, right. I didn't even think of that. Neither. Like all of the scenes leading up to that were important for that reason, and totally didn't even think about it.

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just fallen out that window and probably like landed on their neck and been dead, but they had to go all the way down the stairs. It's just like... It's like really far that window kind of isn't anywhere near the steps. It's like really far back from them. So you really have to... Yeah. Or throw.

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Putting things that don't exist together. Together. And then we get that one, the last scene is the father, dire, like crying over father carous and giving him last rights. And then... Oh, this is the catch-up scene. Oh, yeah, there's the other scene. Driving into the sunset scene. Where we see that Reagan is no longer a demon, and they're moving. Yeah.

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No, no, no, there's two of them. That's dumb as hell. I've never even seen that movie. It's so stupid. I thought you had seen a Star War. Oh, I saw the way. We saw it. We're the. Yeah. I saw the other person on too. No. No, we're leaving. Is this your show?

No. We're leaving in where we're telling you that we're leaving it. So this is where Chris gives Father Dyer the charm that fell off of Father Carus. Mm-hmm. Who grabbed the charm off of Father Harris? Is it Reagan? I think it was just in the room. Okay, because it kind of there's a scene, I mean when it's happening it kind of gets pulled out from underneath his whatever he's wearing. Oh yeah it must have

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the actress that plays Reagan re- Prizes her role in the second one, which I'm curious of just generally curious. I'm not going to watch it. Like what that actually meant. I mean, Linda Blair. Yeah, I saw the second one when I was really young. I don't remember. I just remember it was not good. It's superior film taste even back then. Same. I do want to mention the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to mention to mention to mention the, I, I, I, I to mention to mention to to the, I'm just just just just just just just to to to to to to to to to the the the, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I had superior film taste even back then. Same. I do want to mention the, before we go on to the rating phase, the actress who did her voice is named Mercedes-McCambridge.

Which is an amazing name. Yes. Which was what I was going to put out, but originally she was not credited and there's like a controversy whether or not she said I don't want to be credited, or and they wanted the focus to be on Linda Blair's performance, or if Friedkin was just like a shitty dude and didn't give her props, but she eventually sued and got her name put on to it.

Yeah, good. But she was a former alcoholic, and like she was a voice actor, and she was an alcoholic who had like gotten clean, stopped smoking, and like found God. But when they went to her and were like, hey, we need you to do this to do this, she's like, okay, I need this much booze, this many cigarettes, and I need two priests with me at all times.

Whoa. Because she had to fuck her voice up. Yeah. And so she did that and then like she would do like four hours of recording and go and lay down and these priests would pray over the entire time. Geez, talk about weird religious shit. Exactly. Like that's almost weird in the movie it's. Yeah, I want to see that movie. So when you say it's the voice, it's the demon voice. What if it was just a little girl. th. It was, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, the the, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the the the the the, the the the the, the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to to thi, theeea, thi, the th Linda Blair said to like the demon all the time?

I was, I was, I was, I'm gonna go right off. One of my big questions about this movie and it kind of happens with most child actors who are in movies like this is like how, what happens with you after you've done this? Linda Blair is actually, um, she does an animal rescue now. I can't remember the name of it, but she like, thresresresres rescies, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to go, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the is actually, she does an animal rescue now and I can't remember the name of it but she like rescues dogs and stuff and that's what she's focused. She's always loved animals and that's what she focused. She had a cameo in something that we did I remember she was like a reporter and something was it scream? Yep I looked at her right. I don't actually know that I just saw it. You're right. Yeah she's she's been in a bunch she was in a the the the the the the the th. She was in a th. She was in a th. She was in a the the th. She was in a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the to. to. the to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the 't actually know that. I just saw it. You're right. Yeah, she's been in a bunch, she was in a bunch of movies and did like, but like I don't think her life was very good for a long time. Um, because getting that fame, like this movie was gigantic.

I mean, we often joke about, I mean, I often joke about movies that we do winning Academy awards. This one won Academy Awards. It was nominated for best pictures. The first horror movie film, horror movie film, as we talk about, horror movie film to be nominated for best picture. Oh really? I didn't realize it was the first one. But it did win awards. It won like best sound mixing and like best screen play to be something something, something. And it got panned when it came out like a, oh really? By a bunch of reviewers were just like, this is garbage. Like, why would I even watch this? It's really not garbage. And then like, it costs like $12 million to make and then grossed a butt billion dollars. It's the highest grossing horror film of all time.

Yeah. Yeah. And you said, Titanic, and I was like, wait, isn't Jaws? And you said Titanic, and I was like, oh yeah, Jaws. No, wait, maybe it is. Maybe Jaws is higher, let me check. But if it's not number one, it's number two for sure. Like, it's just, like, and that was when movie. Yeah. So like, the amount of money that this thing pulled in was crazy town.

Come come, my lady. So Katie, do you want to move on to the... Ratings face. It's so good. No. Dimmie. Hedges. Do you want to go first, Hedges?

Or do you want one of us to go first? I'd rather one of you go first. Okay, I'm done, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Do you like say, do you want to do this voice? And I'll do it until it's not funny anymore. How's that? Well, you better keep going.

I'm still laughing. Hedges. I would probably actually laugh every time you say my name in that voice. So this could be a three hours long. Thanks. Here comes the nightmares. Just Katie going, hurt her. I actually like Allen's version too. Yeah it was better. No. Can youatings face? Ratings face. Okay, now you say it. It's just fucking Batman. Percy. Now you say ratings phase.

Wait, in the demon voice? Yeah. Yeah. Ratings face. You sound like an old West Sheriff. You all come down for the ratings face. Oh, them civvies looking at it coming out to my saloon. He's just going to go into a Civil War General if we don't start the ratings face. Oh, it's your high ground! That's what it is, it's the high ground.

High ground. Devil to pay. Jesus. That's a reference that will be gotten by no one who looks like to pay. Devil to pay. Jesus. That's a reference that will be gotten by no one who listens to this podcast. What are you talking about? Gettysburg was an amazing film. Yeah, I'll rate this movie. This is a classic. It's a classic.

It's a classic. It's a, like, of the movies we do are 85 minutes and I'm tearing my hair out by the end. This movie uses I think pretty much every minute wisely, except possibly that Iraq stuff at the beginning because it's kind of like, I don't know, I just, I'm not buying it. Um, uh, give it a 10. Yeah. Tenzo. Oh. Tenzo. That's my reigning. Tenzo. It's up there with there with with with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with there with their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theiring theiring theiring theiring thiring thiring thiring thing theiring theiring their their their their their their I their I their I their I their I their I their. I thing. I I I I I I I I I thing. I I I I I I I I th. I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I their. I their their their their their their their te. I' te. I'll te. I'm te. I'm teering. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I tO. TENZO. That's my rating. TENZO. It's up there with Child's Play 2. Your other 10.

I feel like I give something else a 10 also. You have, but I don't remember what it was. Emily, what was it? Oh, god damn it. Whatever, I mean, I feel like I should have given Childs Play 2 a 10 and a half because it's like nothing can touch it for me. Nothing compares to you. Childs play too? Nothing compares.

I can just like a muffin. Hedges give me your rating. Can I give my reasoning for it before? Yeah, I want to hear like what you thought about it. This was our experiment and we're not doing a very good data collecting job. We're not scientists. So this is, going into it, I was expecting it. And this is kind of a thing I've been thinking about is, you know, it's a classic so

that obviously plays into it. And I know about it from kind of a filmmaking perspective. It's of the era of things that I look up to a lot. And there's a lot of famous scenes in it and then just cinematography that's kind of been something I've known about for a while. And just never really had the inkling to actually watch it. So I'm really glad that I got the opportunity to do that. But I think just even as a, not even with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror with the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, the horror, a little bit here, but I would give it as a film. I would give it. I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the, the the the the the, the, the the the the the, the the the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th. the th. the tho. the the to. the to. the the the to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th outside and then like the ones all the way down to Reagan. I'm rambling a little bit here, but I would give it as a film. I would give it a 10, if I could give it higher I would. Oh, you can give it whatever you want.

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So I would definitely give it a solid ten as well as just a film. I don't know how to rate it as a horror film because I don't really know the Uber very well, but like this is a classic movie that I've never seen and I'm glad that I saw, so. Did it scare you? Oh yeah, I mean, I think maybe I was a winning horror film. I did turn on, I turn, I started with the lights off and then I was like I can't do this, so I had to turn the lights on. Because I'm a big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby. But it was, I did not cry.

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Yeah. I mean, the last time I felt anything even close to the scare dragon was in the mouth of madness. And it was like, what? And actually somebody, a friend of the podcast, Chris texted me after. He was like, I guess. And he was earnest about it. Wait, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the the the, the, the the the the, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. too too tea. tea. tea. tea. thea, thea, thi, thi, thi, the reasons I think in the mouth of Madness scared you. And I was like, I guess. And he was earnest about it. Wait, I don't think I've listened to whatever.

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It's fucking scary. Yeah. No, this is a scary movie, but in the mouth of madness, scared me more. Why? Well, I think there's also just the buildup of it. Like this is one of, I don't know where you would rank this, but like one of the top three or five horror movies of all time. Oh, yeah, for sure. You know, there's a lot of hype behind it and there's a lot of just pop culture sort of

around, like it's kind of it, which I think was a good balance. Yeah, yeah, no, it is, it is the, it is the zenith of horror movies, like, it's up at the top. Yeah. This movie's a 10. You guys know why, it's amazing. It's the best for all the reasons that everyone just said, and because it's one of the movies that I saw when I was that I was that I was young, I was young that scared the living shit out of me. Yeah.

It's so great. And I'm not even like, and I haven't been religious my entire life almost. And it's still like, shit got to me. I don't want to be possessed by no demon. No. No, I definitely, even as a person who grew up Catholic, I mean I related like to plug? Uh, it's okay if the answer is then.

I don't, I don't think so. Just, if you think I'm mildly entertaining in any way, shape or form, I'm on Twitter, at the hedges. Oh, yeah, I like it. Tweeted up dog. I just tweeted today for the first time in like two months so. What do you say tell tell to me? Oh it's not even. I'm not going to do that. No we'll give you a 141 characters. It's 280 now. I know. It's so upsetting. I like it. I have a lot of time on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. the the th. Yeah. the th. the to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to it. I have a lot to say. I've spent a lot of time on Twitter, yeah. Yeah, no, I don't really have anything to plug, but except this podcast which is amazing. So thank you. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for being here. Yeah, thanks for being a guest from Canada, our first international guest.

I know, it's cool. We figured out. the time zones. Just kidding. All right, buddy. Hey, thanks so much for being here, Hedge. Thank you for having me, and I look forward to hearing how great I sound on this. All right. I mean, you all sound. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the shining. Yes, I'll do follow up on that. All right, good.

Yeah, well, thank you so much. I talk to you later, Betty. All right. Bye-bye. Bye. You know what else is a classic? What else is a classic, Katie? Cryptoakarium.

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Yeah, right. What do you want to do? Hinjah-d-doh-oom. I feel like we've done them all. All right, let's do a shitty Christmas movie then. Yeah, all right. What do you want to do? Ginger Dead Man. Is this the one that has all the sequels where he fights the bong and all that stuff? Yes. Oh, all right. Let's get into it.

It's on Hulu. Yeah, part of my holiday thing is just watching things that I already tho tho tho tho tho You don't need to spend any money if you've already got the Hulu. Ginger Dead Man. Ginger Deadman. Merry Christmas. Yeah. Hey, we're giving ourselves a gift of being sad. I mean, why not?

Maybe we'll love it. Maybe we will. Probably well. I don't know. Who knows. We love a lot of things. Yeah. I want to come back next week and see what we think about it. Yeah, do that. But uh, this week, thanks for listening to another episode of Whereover Amounts. Uh, bye. Bye. Bye.

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