Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 19- Kill List (2011)

Episode Date: March 2, 2015

Warning: if "Kill List" is a movie you've not yet seen but want to see at some point, you should definitely watch it before you listen.  In this episode, we attempt to deconstruct the cryptic plot of the 2011 British crime thriller "Kill List" and discuss the finer points of marital strife, strong pro-hunting stances, extremely brutal scenes, the Vice President of the United States of America Joseph R. Biden and what really scares us. This episode also sets the current Werewolf Ambulance record for deep deep sighs. If you like this episode, please tell a friend! We'd also love to hear from you: what did you think of this movie or this episode? What movies would you like us to discuss? Get in touch with us on facebook at facebook.com/werewolfambulance, or on twitter at twitter.com/werebulance, or on instagram, username werewolfambulance. Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast. 

Hello, and welcome to another episode of WhereWulf Ambulance. I'm here with my friend Katie. Hey, Alan. Hey, Katie. How are you? Good, how are you? I'm doing really well, thank you. Good. Tonight we're here to discuss the film Kill List. I'm here to discuss the film Kill List. Kill List. Directed by Ben Wheatleyto discuss the film Kill List. Kill List. Directed by Ben Wheatley. Ben Wheatley. British movie from 2011. We are going to do spoilers.

And this is a movie that it's crucial that if you don't want it spoiled, watch it before you listen to this. Yeah, it's on Netflix, just go watch it. Because we're gonna ruin it. Yeah. I'm gonna ruin it in like 30 seconds. It barely makes a lick goddamn sense, but... Yeah. I don't want to, I don't want to ruin that, that moment for you. So turn it off, go watch the movie. Come back. Don't do anything else. No. Don't go to the bathroom. Don't get any snacks. I don't go you to go to go the the the the th. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go. Don't to go. Don't to go. Don't to the to the to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. to to to to th. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thin. I to th. I to the. I to to to to to to to to the. to the. the. the. Yeah. Yeah. I th. I th. Yeah. I didn't tell you to go to the bathroom. You come back here and you listen to this when you're done. Yeah. Oh, did you have to go to work? Oh, too bad.

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Oh wow. I literally just was like, what the shit? Play. Yeah. And watched it again. Still didn't understand it. See, I was, I watched it yesterday for the first time. they I was like, I don't really want to.

I think we can do a wrap up of this pretty quick and then go back and touch on it. Yeah, the plot's pretty sparse, really. Right. But the holes are where you're like, what? So it's a film about these two guys that are ex-axxxxx men at this point in their careers. And something has happened in their past in Kiev. Something bad. The one guy Jay, who's sort of the star of the movie, I guess, he has a shitty home life. Yeah, of his own design.

Yeah, he's a fuck up. He's a royal, like, whatever happened in Kiev fucked him up royally. And it's ruining his marriage, it's interfering with every aspect of his life. This was like eight months ago as the film is taking off. They get hired to do a job, and it's to take out these three, what do you call, assassination victims? Assassionies? Yeah, so they get a list of three people that they have to take out. Assassionies. You've got the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest the priest priest the priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest, the priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest. the priest priest priest priest. the priest priest. the priest priest priest. the priest priest priest priest priest priest. the priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest priest. The priest priest. The priest priest the priest priest. The priest priest the priest. The priest priest. The priest. The priest. The priest. The priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest. So the priest, so the priest, so the priest, so the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the priest, so the priest, so three people that they have to take out. Assassinees? Assassinees. You've got the priest, the librarian, and the MP.

Yeah. And they- Which at first I thought was military police, but is actually a member of parliament. Which I figured out pretty quickly. Did you watch this movie? Yes, because that Yorkshire accent is tough. Yeah, the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooge. thi. thi. tooge. tooom. tooom. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. thi. the. thea. thea. theya. theya. theya. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. Yeah, it's good though. I feel like the accents really put you into the mindset of the movie. Yeah, actually I have to have only two notes for this movie and one of them I just wrote down a subtitle which is speaking emotionally in Swedish, which I loved. A deaf person is like, oh, okay.

So they're hired by some sort of organization to do these kills. By a man who looks like Joe Biden. Oh my god, I'm so glad you thought that and you weren't like, oh it's not Joe Biden. It's totally fucking Joe Biden. It really is. Okay, cool. He's got that Joe Biden's smile. Yeah, you're real creepy friend. Yeah, sorry, vice president. I'm not former Delaware representative. Seems like an okay guy.

PA native. Scranton. Scranton. Scranton. So they're hired by this guy. And later you see more of the organization that he works for and it's just other old, rich white dudes. Yeah, it's kind of the X-Files syndicate. Yeah, yeah, totally. The people that they're killing the priests, the librarian and the MP

seem to be wrapped up in some sort of murder ring. Like, there's just like you get like glimpses of what's going on, but they don't actually show you anything, which is awesome. See, I didn't even think they were wrapped up in a murdering. I I I I I I I didn't th. I I didn't even I th. I th. I th. I th. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I didn't the. I didn't even the. I didn't even the. I didn't even the. I didn't even even even even even the. I the. I the. I the. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the an the an thean theananananananananan thean theananan thean thean theanan thean theanan th of I think they're related, but we can get into the what I thinks later. So, So they go, they go and they do these hits, as we call it in the game and the assassination game, we call them hits. That's what you call them? What should I call them? I don't know. The only thing I've ever assassinated is a pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza pizza. I'm the pizza. I'm the pizza. I'm the pizza. I'm the pizza. I the pizza. I 't know, the only thing I've ever assassinated is a pizza. With each hit that happens, it ends up being Jay is the one that's doing the murder. And the assassinated person, assassinie.

You're just not going to give me the satisfaction, are you? I couldn't remember what you called them. They thank him. Yeah. Which just like, so up until that point you've got this movie that's like, oh this is a weird crime movie, this is a crime movie, what's this weird crime movie? Oh and it's also this like domestic gross movie I don't like it to make real uncomfortable. Yeah, she's screaming at each other all the time. And the wife is from, she was in the dissent, she's in, yeah she's in the descent, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she was in, she was in, she's in descent, she was in, she was in, she was in, she was in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in descent, she's in descent, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's a the descent, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's a, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in, she's in Ripper Street. She's in Oh, she is in Ripper Street. She's the madam. Yeah, she's in

Doomsday. Straight up talking about BBC television shows now, aren't we? Yeah, I was watching Piki Plydeers before you give over. Yeah, she's awesome. I really like I like it. Speaking emotionally in Swedish. But they're doing these hits, he's getting thanks, it crazed and going off plan as it goes along. Yeah, he seems to just be a, his psyche is completely deteriorating. Yeah. Until they do this hit on the MP, and it's on these like beautiful, palatial grounds, it's really beautiful. Very British, having an estate like that. When they go into the hit on the MP, shit just goes fucking bonkers. Well, it becomes a wicker mann, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi, thi, thi, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's thi. And he's thi. thi. thi. thi's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi's thi. the MP, shit just goes fucking bonkers. Well, it becomes a Wickerman for a few minutes.

Yeah, awesome. And I don't mean that in a good way. No. I hated Wickerman. Did you like it? Okay, so. Nicholas Cage. No, no, no, not the bees.

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in the end of the movie. Sort of revealed. Well yeah, I guess they're not revealed, they just come back. Okay, sure, sure, sure. Sure, sure. Like, there's the scene where Jay has gone out and he was supposed to get like toilet paper and some food for this dinner party and he comes back with $200 worth of wine and canned tuna and two plastic swords. It's really weird. Just showing that he's like kind of oblivious about like how to interact with other other other other other other other other other And so him and his son go outside and they're fighting with their swords and then the wife comes outside and they're all fighting with the swords. Oh shit! And the kids riding on the wife's back and then smacking him with the sword.

Oh shit. And that comes back up later on the end of the movie. So yeah so gal and Fiona have come over for this dinner party and it's just fucking bonkers. Like, there's the cut the tension with a knife. What I really like about this movie, one of the things I really like is they did, there's a script and they would do the scene as it is in the script and then they would reshoot it improvised. And I think that's what gives the dialogue between Jay and his wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the wife the the the they would reshoot it improvised. And I think that's what gives the dialogue between Jay and his wife so much, like, they're digging up some shit. They're just, they're just vitriol and mean.

And apparently Ben Wheatley like was basing this on like, stuff from his child. Yeah, so he's a very sad man. He has a lot of sad feelings in his heart. And just sort of like, these are the things that scare him. He wanted to make a movie, a horror movie of things that scare him and like domestic like disharmony really upsets him. So like, and it's fucking, it's the most, it's, it's, it makes my skin crawl when I watch this movie. If you were gonna make a horror movie about things that scared you, what would it be? I'm really scared, I'm really claustrophobic. I have recurring nightmares about running into a house

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don't just like slow dance. Oh no? Oh, maybe your maybe your generation does. Yeah, we just put on some Jodas scene. It's yeah, I didn't know, it's like, who the fuck does this? It was I thought maybe British people. Angelo confused. So yeah, and it, at some point Jay and Gal go into the garage, into the man cave to hang out and smoke cigarettes. And Gal tells them that there's a job. And it's kind of revealed that Shell is the wife, I could just remember her name now, is the one who sort of sets up the deals? She's like got some back-handed deal and stuff so like Gal went to her first. I didn't know

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accordion file that's filled with all these documents that has the symbol that Fiona's scratched on the back of the mirror on it. So while he's upstairs looking at that stuff, Jay is downstairs with the librarian and the librarian before, while Gowls down there is crying and just begging for his life, when Gal leaves he turns to Jay and goes, he doesn't know who you are, does he? Yeah. And you're just like, huh? And Jay doesn't seem to know either. Just like what are you talking about? And he says something like it's an honor to have thi the the th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi, thi, the the the thi, thi, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. I, the. I's, theean. I's, they. Yeah, the lib. Yeah, the. the. the Yeah. And he says something like, it's an honor to have met you and all the stuff. And then- I'm glad that it's you that's doing this.

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He's just done so. He's beaten this dude to a pulp and then just empties a clip into him. And it's like, oh, yeah, yeah. This is our protagonist. Happy holidays. And it's, yeah, it's weird because you're just like, oh, fuck, I don't like anybody in this movie. No. Everyone sucks. I like the little boy. He was cute and seemed like, I just felt for him. Yeah, and I think the thing that keeps you watching is like,

what are Fiona and Shell? What's their deal? I kept watching because we were doing a podcast about it. Do you think it would have turned it off at something? It's hard to say. Sorry I do that. Yeah, because we're cutting back at some points to Jay talking to Shell on the phone and she's like, oh Fiona's here, we've been hanging out. First I didn't really like her, now we're bros and then she like brings the kid a toy. And then when he goes back, I guess she wasn't expecting him to come back and Fiona's

there, drinking like, just in the middle of the day. And then they hang his cat. Someone hangs his cat. Big bummer. Someone hangs his cat. They accused gypsies of doing it, which really bum me out to. Well that's very British right there. Yeah, they're real.

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play money, British money. Same thing. And, and then he's like, oh, well, so anyway, we'll just seal this and he pulls in a knife. Oh, yeah, why did he do that? Because it's weird. A to c a to c a ca to ca to c cult a c cult a cult a cult a cult a cult, the their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. and like his wispy dry-ass Joe Biden doesn't really come out no blood comes out of it really. Joe Biden doesn't bleed. Yeah and then when when Jay goes home he takes his shirt off and he has like the signs of a very serious

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kill the MP right and this is where things really come to a head I guess right and they get into the grounds like the night or the day before they're going to start doing surveillance and like there's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir theeeeeeee th get into the grounds, like the night, or the day before they're going to start doing surveillance. And like, there's this like, respite of them like being chummy. Yeah. And Gale are like, they're getting on really well, and like they, they get a couple rabbits and they're cooking them up and... Probably delicious. thii. Kill it, eat it. I'm adopting a very serious pro-hunting stance in this episode. Is it? Why is that weird? Oh, I don't know.

You know what there's a lot of in the world? Rabbits. Nothing is more humane than killing something yourself and eating it. They breathe like themselves. So there's this respite of them getting along really well and making dinner and having tea and sort of busting each other's balls, but it's like very friendly. And then they're sort of going down to sleep for the night, I think, and they hear something. And then they see this line of naked people with straw masks on. Some of them are dressing all white, some of them are naked.

Earlier in the film, we also saw Fiona straw masks on. Some of them are dressing all white. Some of them are naked. Earlier in the film, we also saw Fiona outside of their hotel room in like, you know, bumble fuck England. So like Jay standing at his hotel window and Fiona standing in the field across the street just waving to him. I don't remember that at all. Yeah. She's just staring at him and waving and he just kind of like waves back to her and doesn't mention it to gal that it's happened. I don't remember that at all. It's really weird. Okay. I want to take a quick diversion to talk about gal and Fiona's love life. Because there's like they're evidently have very rough sex which is brought up. Like you do with a cult member. Yeah and what? So when Jay, when they're leaving the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day they're leaving the day they're leaving they're leaving the day they're they're they're they're they're they're the day. they're they're their. they're their. to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to........................................................... member. Yeah. What? So when Jay, when they're leaving the day of the, when they're going to start the assassination mission, assassination missions,

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It's engorging himself on my blood. So yeah, so they see this procession of these, what we are now assuming are the Wickerman of cult members, and they're carrying torches, and I thought it looked awesome, like, I love a procession that people carrying torches in absolute darkness. So they, they kind of start following them and keeping an eye on them with binoculars and their scopes and their rifles and all that jazz. And this woman climbs onto a stump, puts a noose around her own neck, and then kicks the stump out from underneath of herself and hangs herself. Why? Why did she do that? No, no. Well everyone like

stands around and looks basically. And claps after she hangs herself. Do they? Yeah, they start doing golf claps. A odd. And so Jay gets freaked out and opens fire on them. Because he's a loose cannon. Yeah, he's lost the plot at this point. And they just start running towards him, squealing like pigs. Yeah. But they're like running into the bullets, basically. Yeah. There's a lot of things in this scene that stop making sense. Yeah. Well, this movie. So, but for me I was like, so what is this cult? Is it a death cult?

Are they like just celebrating death and like... Who knows? So they chase down this cult, because there's, you know, 50 of them, and they chase down Jay and Gal, into these tunnels and kill gal and Jay gets away. Well he has to mercy kill him. They like tear gal up and then he has to shoot him after like a sad scene. Yeah it's a sad scene. Yeah, quick sad scene shots fired out. That's the sea where my partner said oh you gotta kill him his hot dogs on the outside of his shirt. Oh gross. Because all of his intestines had fallen out. Those are your hot dogs. Those are your hot dogs, everybody. And so then Jay runs to the cabin where his wife and son are and they're kind of staked out there for a little while and then the cult members show up there and Jay goes out after them and she'll stay his back with a gun

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And then he takes the sheet off. And it's his wife with their son son her back. Yeah, and his wife looks real sad. But she's laughing. Why is she laughing? And the kid is dead, dead, tot's dead. Hot diggity dead. Toats dead. Just flopping on the ground.

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Art is open to interpretation, but... But... I'm not rating this one. Don't do it. Is it okay? Yeah, it's a hundred percent okay. It's our show. It's our show, we can do whatever the fuck we want. Yeah. This movie has reduced me to, ah, that's my rating. Ah! So that's it. You just become a peanut's character. Yeah. I'm right now furrowing my brow and there's like a cloud above my head. Ah! Ah! So that's it for Kill List. I don't know, you know, maybe I did just watch it yesterday, maybe like in a couple weeks I'll feel like watching it again or

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This is Alan. Just popping in to give you a what's going on next week. We are going to be doing the film week. America and Mary is available on Netflix so if you want to watch before next Monday so that we can all be on the same page with this. We're really excited about it and we hope to tune in. Thanks so much for listening and we hope Katie gets over this flu quickly.