Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 205- Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988)

Episode Date: December 3, 2018

In this week's episode we complete our post-Thanksgiving festivities by getting even more tipsy than we were in the last episode and trying to make lemonade out of this movie. Special topics for your consideration include: the return of mean sex demons!, "Star Wars" explained, Clive Barker's inexplicable fear of puzzles, a brainstorm of some alternate names for the female cenobite and an anatomy lesson from two people who know very very little about anatomy.  You can hear our hot takes on the original "Hellraiser" (Episode 51), and if that's not enough Clive Barker for you, check out Episode 150- "Midnight Meat Train." Have you seen this one? What did you think? Let us know your thoughts at facebook.com/werewolfambulance, on Twitter @werebulance or on Instagram @werewolfambulance. You can also email us for our segment "MAILBAG!" at [e-mail] and if you're feeling super generous, leave us an iTunes rating and review.   Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast. 

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Well, mother is sort of like a good, or icy, we have an icy relationship kind of thing. Mother, mother. You know what I mean? Okay, yeah, I got you. I got you. I said it already. I was thinking we were going to start this off with Last time on Hillraiser. I love that. I feel like recently I I think it was in the Halloween Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it was like, well you don't see that that often and then here we are again last time. There's so much like I this movie is what an hour and a half. I have two days. I have. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. the. the. I th. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. don't know. I think a half an hour of it is last time on Hellraiser. And that wasn't a good movie either, so I don't know why you're padding it with that.

So a friend of my life and friend of the podcast and friend of you as well, Jim Robinson is a huge Hellraiser fan. Jim loves them. Jim has seen them all. All of them? So I was like, Jim, we're going to do Hellraiser 2. Oh, what did he say? Send me some thoughts. I can't wait to hear Jim's thoughts. He didn't send me any thoughts. He sent me someone's 62-page dissertation on the Hellraiser movies.

Someone's? Not his. And I was like, Jim. My only response was, holy shit that's long. James. To which he responded, I read it, there's not too much information. Or not too much stuff he didn't know already. Sure. Yeah. If you'd like to hear more from Jim, you can listen to his episode, which is I have no idea what number. Psychomania. Yes, thank you. I just I searched our website for it. And special topics for your consideration include a surprise treatise in defense of Hellraiser.

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And then he was like, I don't remember the last movie. All right, well, he's not wrong, but he's not right either. I had to kick him out. But he was like, now do you remember? So go back and listen to the Hellraiser episode that we did to get caught up. I mean don't, don't bother. Come to Daddy. That's all you need. So I was shocked to find out that the guy who plays butterball, the fat one? Butterball? Yeah, that's that's really his name. He was like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's really that's that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really really really that's that's that's really really really that's really that's really that's really that's really. that's really really really. That's really. That's really that's really really really. that's really. that's really. that's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really. That's really that's really that's really. That's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really that's really. that's really. that's really. that's really. that's really. that's really. that's really. that's really. Really? Really? Weird. It's just like a bit fart in quadraphenia but I was like still that's pretty cool man. That's pretty cool

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Like this is all like a like BDSM thing, right? Is it a cautionary tale that if you're into kinky shit, these bad guys are going to come for you? Because that's fucked up. But it's also like half the characters like. Don't do not say shanard to me. I hate it Julia they're all like down with that sickness They're they so like half the characters are like yes, please mean sex demons. Let's do this and the other half are like? Where's my dad? This movie also presupposes that Julia is irresistible. Julia could resist.

You know what I mean? She has a certain... No, she does not. Julia is gross. This is just like, oh God, Hellraiser. This is a movie about sweet suffering. But like it also, it just isn't. It's just about nothing. It's a Seinfeld episode about sex demons.

I don't know why, but I love the line we have eternity to know your flesh. That's gross. Yeah, but I feel like it's like, I don't know, like just like some, that sounds like something shit you'd be at a wedding and someone would say that's their fowls. He'd be like, oh fuck, five years, you guys get five years. You guys get five years. And I just, I thank God that I have eternity to know your flesh.

Right. Produce the fruit of your loins into the church. Am I wrong? I might be wrong. I might be off base. The base is a little bit over here to me, and I'm seeing it blurly. So I have the making of pinhead. Silly. I like that the demons are crafty. Like, they made him.

Yeah, they were like just plop. It's very Pinteresty. There's like little like dicks with the their nailing fins into his goddamn head. Can I tell you one of my first notes? Please. This must have been from the opening credits when they were flashing the actor's names across the team. Definitely just mixed up Kenneth Cranum and Kenneth Branna.

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The guy that looks kind of like meatloaf that came in. I saw Meloaf pass out on stage once and I thought he was dead. I wished he was dead. It's terrible. It's a terrible thought that I had but I thought, oh my god I'm gonna see Meloaf die. He didn't. I will have such a tale. I know. I thought that. That's a human being who wrote Paradise by the dashboard light. They did. Then we cut from Ronson homicide questioning Kirstie to the house and a cop opens a box because it's real loud, because there's super loud maggots in there. Yeah, they're like, gn-gong-ng-gang-y-gang. It sounds like they're all in there, like all the maggots are stirring individual bowls

of macaroni and cheese. I like how that skeleton falls out on him. It looks like a shitty skeleton and it keeps, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and it th, and a th, and a thi, and a thi, and a thoes, and a tho, and a tho, and a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, and a the th, and a th, and a th, and a th, and a th, and a th, and a th, and a th. And, and a th. And, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tops tops tops tape tops tops, tape thoops, thoops, and thi thi thi thi thi thi and cheese. I like how that skeleton falls out on him. It looks like a shitty skeleton and it keeps being a shitty skeleton. Like at no point does it look scary. It's just like a... He shoots it like 57 times. Mmm, cops, man. I also like that when we are introduced to the child known as the bread pit

from Interview with the Vampire. They're like, yeah, nurse named her Tiffany. And then even when she starts speaking, we're still calling her Tiffany. I'll take it. It's 1988, I guess. She's going on a mall tour. She thinks they're alone now. Doesn't seem to be anyone around.

No. So then we see the mattress that Julia was murdered on. I forgot that I had to like think about Julia. You know what I mean? When she popped up again I was like, oh, fucking Julia. She's less British in this one, though, isn't she? I think so, yeah. Dr. Chenard is a real gross boy who runs a, like, psychiatric hospital that in the basement he's just torturing people? It seemed like he had the sickest patients in the boiler room.

Yeah, yeah, but he was like, yeah, that's not kind. I mean, it didn't seem right. And the boiler was leaking a lot. Yeah, it didn't seem good. No, no, no. It was like a shitty, shitty, haunted house. It was like a shitty, it. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It seemed. It didn't. It seemed. It seemed. It didn't. It didn't. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's the. It's the. It's the. It's like. It's like. It's like, the. It's like. It's like, it's like, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the shitty, the scene where we see all the patients in the lower levels of the hospital seemed like a shitty haunted house you'd go to where they open the door, they're like, this guy! You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

Yeah, I didn't like that. The crazy people. Yeah, and you're just like, oh God, I'm also covering my eyes, but I want to go to go to Arby the the the the the the the the the to go to go to go the to go to go the to go to go the to go the the the the the the the to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.ease.ease.ease.ease.ease. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thea. thea. thi. th. th some brain surgery and talking some brain bullshit about labyrinths. I mean, he's a surgeon, but he's also a psychiatrist of talking, which I don't think is a thing that you mix. You either get into brains or you talk. Did you notice he look like Jake Tapper? Did you notice he look like Jake Tapper?

No. I don't really know what Jake Tapper looks like looks like dr. Chenard. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. He looked like a shitty sad weird Jake taper Apparently Dr. Chenard did not want to be in this movie and his son son? Maybe daughter? Loved the first one so much like dad. Dad be in this movie? Do you think he watched the first one then and was like you like this? This is scary parts when the guy his hand caught on the nail. I know, that's really upsetting. Yeah. Uh, then I have the note, Ronson was Gold Star Leader in Star War.

It's pretty exciting. And what? What? What's Star War? It's that movie? the threat. Which of them? The first one, Star Wars. Okay. It's now retro actively known as a new hope. You don't even have to explain to me. I'm not even listening.

1977. Is that the one? Luke Skywalker. Yeah, he's in all of them, isn't he? No, he's not in the prequels. Because he would be not foreign yet. I just put myself to sleep, explaining that. I'm just trying, I don't, it doesn't, that's fine. Who likes Skywalker's mom?

Uh, Princess, uh, Natalie Portman? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Princess Natalie Portman. Well, when he was still Anakin, Scott Walker. Oh, he had that weird haircut. Like, Ed Kowalcheck from live. I guess our 90s talk is over from last week, but it was just a few minutes ago to me so. It's hard.

It's hard. It's hard. Oh, that fucking man. Wait, are he in... Are Luke and Leah full siblings? Or are they half-siblings? They're full. Yeah. Yeah. Really?

They might even be twins, but I don't think so. They're just brows. They hang out. In the first movie they definitely kissed and in the second movie they're like, oh I guess they're siblings, hold on. Was that just like retrofitted to work or like they didn't mean that to be that way? And then just explained to me Star War. Dr. Lucas said that he had it all figured out ahead of time, but watch the first movie. I mean, I've only ever seen the first movie. And then like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I th. thi, I, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.. And then like some, we saw some on Christmas, I remember we would go, we did that a couple times.

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do all puzzles in this world I don't know because at one point they show foreshadowing they show an MC Esher painting that's been turned into a like puzzle. Yeah. And it's like so all puzzles in Clive Barker's world are gateways to hell. Which is weird like even when they show a young Tiffany with her mother she's like help these she's doing so many puzzles. Like that's a sign that your kid's kind of intelligent you know what I mean? Puzzles are hard and she is has the dedication to work through them. That's really good she's gonna they. She's th. She's th. She's th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. th. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. And she has the dedication to work through them. That's really good. She's going to do well in college. You know, like leave this bitch alone.

I love that I'm just now formulating that Clive Barker is a scared of puzzles. He's a scared of puzzles. He's like, I goes and hides in the bathroom, I don't know. Oh, and every eighth clue is a fucking clue to something, God damn, what are we supposed to do here? Oh my God, Clive Barker, you're so stupid. Is he a stupid man? I don't think so. Well, what is he doing then making this goddamn movie?

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No. Muscle tits got nipples? First of all. Let me do a quick anatomy lesson from a person to know it is very little about anatomy. Our chests all look the same muscularly. We all have the same muscles. Yeah, we all got big titties. Wait. We all have very like somewhat flat, peck muscles.

And then women on top of that have a mix of fat and glands that make breasts. Yeah. They are not muscles, Clive Barker or whoever. Your muscles got nipples. No, you've got muscle nipples. No, if you had a nipple on top of your muscle, you would be in very bad shape. You would be in very bad shape. But you could flex your nipple. You have nipples on top of your muscles, so I guess you're not in bad shape. It just doesn't make, your muscle would not curve over your breast.

That's not how, it just doesn't, I can't, I just, it's like a person never saw a, I, help. Just going to throw this out there. Maybe she got super strong boobs. You could have the biggest pecks in the world. Your tits are still... Maybe she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she she's the the biggest she's the biggest she's the biggest. the biggest. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. to to to to to to t to to to to to to to t to too. to too. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. t tits are still. Maybe she got prehensile boofs. Fair. Maybe she's like lifting up coffee mugs with the... Well she's just drinking shardney so I don't know. But I thought like much like Frank in the first movie like the just like musculature over the skeleton looks like shit and creepy. Wrong.

I'm way into it. Anatomy, how does it work? I mean, her back is lacing up. Why? There's no, your back doesn't lace. That's a corset, and she's not wearing one. And then he's like, the doctor's like, here, let me get you some clothes. And he gives her a white suit, first white suit, no shirt made of blood. What is this world?

High wasted white suit, by the way. High waisted white suit, and then he's like, no, no, no, that's not going to work, let me bandage you. So did you take the white suit off? Bandage you and then put you in an evening gown. Bandage, that evening gown, by the way, in this movie is Kirstie. She looks great in it. That evening gown is ugly. And he's wrapping her up in these bandages. Does it not hurt to be a skinless person? She's just like, pr-pr-pr-p-I just don't understand any of what is going on with Julia. And then she gets the skin, she gets the skin, but like Mediterranean. Julia, it's like white wasp,

I don't understand any of it. I don't understand any of it. She got like 15 skins. There were so many corpses hanging up in that room. Skin seems to be an important and rare thing to get as a muscle person. Why are they muscle people though? Yes. Okay, so in the hell- a muscle person? Why are they muscle people though? Yes. Okay, so in the Hell Razor universe.

Yeah, the Hell Averse. The Hell of He. When you like mean sex, you get taken to the mean sex place. Yeah, hell. If I go to hell, do I have to go to mean sex, hell? to the mean sex, the hell, do I have to go to mean sex, hell, or can I just go to regular hell? Uh, eternity, no flesh. Okay.

Okay. Okay. I think, I think hell is what you're saying. Okay. I mean, so my hell might just be country music is what you're saying. Contemporary? Do you hate the old stuff too? No, the old stuff is nice. I like a little Randy Travis.

Oh wow, your old stuff is much newer than my old stuff. Well, that's old in terms of like 30 years ago. Sure. Also, I don't like it, but I appreciate. It's not for me, I get who it's for. What are you motherfuckers doing? It just all sounds like weird Bon Jovi ballads. Oh my god, you're right. It sounds like weird Al doing a Bon Jovi ballad. With my pickup truck. In your cut off shorts.

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I don't think so. Then he fucking drove that guy there in the straight jacket. He drove him in his car. That is so fucked up. Or he got him delivered. No, he, he arrives with him though. So like, like, did he have him in the backseat? And he was just like, buckle up? And then he was like, oh, oh, we got a toll booth. And then he was like, oh, oh, I got a tall booth.

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Not dead. He's not dead. He was like, no, no, no. I make the body horror. I have the notes, two notes in a road that say, the blood is real, put it in your lips, you nasty lady. Wow, explains me with that. I have no idea what that means.

I think someone like, oh, oh, oh, there's a lot of blood tasting in this movie. So, Kiercy is in her room in the psychiatric hospital and she starts falling asleep maybe, maybe not. This is where it becomes a little nightmare in Elm Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The sleeping makes it worse for you. Yeah, yeah. She wakes up or is she still dreaming.

And she thinks her dad is skinless laying on the floor, writing, I'm in hell. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Dad doesn't use contractions. It contracted. But like that's real dumb. But I think as an image that looks cool. Sure yeah yeah yeah like if you woke up and a bloodless man had written I'm in I'm in or a skinless man had written I'm in. Please help. Yeah, you would bug the fuck out. She walks over, skin man's gone, she rubs the blood on the wall and goes,

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It's not a fucking Mr. Goodbar. You know what I mean? It's like you can not resist it. Goodness. I love that in a, is it final girls that we did? Where Thomas- Would you taste that? But it's about like, it's real blood. But they do it. Why do they do it?

I don't know. There's literally, there's never been a situation in my life where I've been like, I'm that taste that blood. There's very few things that I'm not 100% are food that I'm putting up in my mouth. Right. It's true. It's true. I'm two on them. I've got an ink in my mouth because of it. Uh, looks cool. Yeah, cool look.

Definitely not a nerd. This guy. So Kyle sneaks into the house, sees that Dr. Shenard has collected everything regarding the sexy puzzle boxes. Dr. Shenard is a sexy puzzle box enthusiast. Yeah, connoisseur might, I might even true. How does he know about any of this? Right, how does he have a picture of Doug Radley in the military,

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He has three puzzle boxes. Yeah. They need fucking Tiffany to solve one. Dr. Chenard, presumably a doctor could not solve the puzzle box. Fucking Frank solved a puzzle box. Frank is a deadbeat moron. Do you know what I mean? All right, Katie. Oh my god. Put your money wear your mouth.

I have to pee, I can't do that. I just put a Rubik's cube in front of Katie. Yeah, but also I'm not, I'm not, I'm not trying to get a sex demon. No. If I wanted a sex demon to come, like just was like, oh, I'm spend my entire waking life solving that Rubik's Cube. I don't care, so I don't have to. Dr. Chenard, he cares. He does. He does.

Kyle sees all this shit. Like he has like prints of the puzzle box, but he has the actual puzzle box. And I don't know why he has all this accout. to go along with the puzzle. It. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Butterball? None of it's okay. The female's out of bite. Oh right lady. Chatterbox. Apparently people are up in arms because in the first movie Chatterbox has no eyes. Oh and in the second movie the actor was like hey. I can't see. This sucks. Can I have eyes? That's totally reasonable. And there was a scene cut out where they were cutting out eye holes. the eyes. the eyes. the eyes. the eyes. the eyes. the eyes. the eyes. the eyes. the. I. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. the. t. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the t That's totally reasonable. And there was a scene cut out where they were cutting out eye holes for him. So like he just shows up at one point with eyes and like apparently fans of centibytes were like, oh man, he's got eyes.

I hate that he has eyes. Like, um, I watched both of these movies. I had no recollection of him not having eyes. Sure. Yeah. Apparently, for a little sent-by lore, Julia was supposed to be the main antagonist in these movies. Isn't she? She was supposed to be the Queen of Hell. Yeah. But because Pinhead was such a big deal, they just went with him. And that's why in all the later movies it's all about Pinhead. That's weird because I find Pinhead to be not as scary as Chatterbox, first of all. Yeah. And not as upsetting as Julia.

And he's also willing to put off your appointments to later. Yeah. We have eternity to know your flesh. Go on. Go on. Go about your business. I mean, Pinut seems very malleable. Pinnit does not seem like a bad guy. At one point he's like, the one point he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's th. th. th. th. th. th is th is th is thi, he's thi, he's th is th is to, and he's is to, and he, and he's is. And he, and he, and he, and he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, and he, he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And he's th. And he's th. And he's th. And he's th. And he's th. And he's th. And he's also. And he's also. And he's also. thi. thi. thi. thi's also thi's also thi's also thi's also thi's also thi's also thi. thi. thi. thi. And he's also yeah, but what about this? And he's like, okay, I'm listening. He's like, no more deals.

And she's like, a deal and he's like, yeah. I'm listening or something. Like, okay, okay. Like, Frazier. Okay. Pin hell, rare. Yeah, hell frager, what? Yeah, to say.

I don't know what Kyle finds. He finds all the bodies in the house. Whose bodies are those? There's the ladies that Dr. Chenard stole for Julia. their skin. Right, right. Right, right. So, wait.

And then... They're the women that Dr. Shinned. or killed for Julia, because she does this thing where she like puts her mouth on and goes, and eats all your souls or something. I don't understand why that is. And that's it's, listen, Katie. Mean sex demons, right? So when you don't have skin and you need skin, you suck on somebody else's face, and then they turn gray and you get their skin.

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Right. Why didn't Frank become a centibite? Like, how do you become a centibite? I don't know. And where does Julia live in this hierarchy? Apparently she was supposed to be the queen of hell. But she isn't. Right, not yet. Do you understand what I'm saying? Where is like, so the centibytes are like the, the, the makers. They do things. They go out and do things. Sure. Then you've got Frank and Julia who are just like skinless people? Right, right, right. But why?

What is their purpose? Why are they not centibites? Why are they not? I just don't understand the hierarchy of... I don't understand anybody's job. I am right there with you. Apparently this movie went through so many rewrites. It had to have.

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I love that we got the flashback of him saying, come to daddy. I was like so vindicated when that happened. You know what I mean? I was like, he does say it like that. My life has not been a lie. Come to daddy. Come to daddy. It's me, Frank. Come to daddy. He's a th. th. th. to to to th. to to, to, th. th. to, th. to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, th. th. to, to the, to the, to to to thu. thu thu to to to to th' th' th' thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu to thu to thu thu thu to thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu. Come to daddy. Come to daddy. It's me, Frank, come to daddy. He's a terrible actor. I want to skip a head real quick to Frank when we meet Frank and Hale and Frank's own personal sex hell. Where he- Those weird drawers of women? So he can't

fuck any of the women that are in the sex drawers. Or just writhing like it's so fucking sexy. Or like their bed's just uncomfortable. Yeah, they're like oh, I have worms Like bed's uncomfortable. I have worms That's that what you meant don't look the bedworms bite and so but these the the sexy drawer bed ladies are reminding of a I went to? The community college of Allegating County? C C C C C C A C C A C C A C C. C. C. A and C C. C. C. I C. I. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. the? the? the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. the. the. the sexy drawer bed ladies are my name of a I went to the community college of Allegating County, CCAC. CCANC and they were doing a midsummer's night dream. Oh awesome. So I went and saw that. That's awesome. And so why did you do that? Some friends invited me we went. That's really cool. Yeah yeah yeah I like Shakespeare a lot of good work. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah, yeah. C.C. C. A. C. C. A. C. C. the the the the the c is is is is is is is. the c is. I the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the the c. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. C. C. C. the., yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. CCAC's doing a lot of good work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Community colleges are really important. And it's really hard to fuck Shakespeare up.

So I was like, I'll go see Shakespeare. I disagree, but sure. I'm glad you feel that way. The source material is so good that I enjoy. Anyway, someone's like having like make pretend sex and like to get them off stage, they slide them in a drawer under the stage. I love that. And so when this showed up, I was like,

a drawer, a drawer of sex. I love that the women in the sex drawer were there to taunt him. Yeah. Like, what did they do to end up there? Honestly, like what... They're like, oh God, I have just taunt Frank for all eternity with a sheet over my face. Just writhing. Just like, uh... Bedworms. You get worms.

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I guess it's the premise of the first film too, really? Yeah, the lifeblood brings you back. The life blood brings you back. So they have this thing that Julia bled on so they can bring Julia back. Right. And that's how Frank gets brought back in the first one. Right. All right. As we see in this movie again. She... Why?

I don't understand Julia, I guess. Okay, okay. Why does she have the ability to kill you by putting her fingers into the base of your skull? She's sucking your soul out, huh? Who is Julia in this universe? Queen of health? No, but she's not bigger than the base of your skull. She's sucking your soul out, huh? Who is Julia in this universe? Queen of Hell? No, but she's not bigger than the centibites. The centibites are bigger than her.

Julia, what is Julia? Explain to me, Julia. I think she is a plot device gone awry. Yeah. How's she going to put that lady's skin on and look like herself? That lady was Mediterranean as fuck. How? I want to get to a...

Let's get to skin talk later. So we go into hell pretty quickly. I don't even remember. Where are we? What's it look like? Tiffany opens up hell. It's the stairs going upside and upside to upside. Hell is stairs. No elevators. And hell, everybody has their own personal sex hell. Yeah, there's a lot of personal hills, I guess, which is like... And at one point, like, your father is in

his own personal hill and he will not be disturbed from the hours of eight to four. Yeah, what is just like doing his taxes for hours. What is his personal health? I don't know. What is your personal? Oh, is that sexy? I don't know. What's your person? It was what's like 99? We talked about the last episode. Yeah, that's fair. 400,000 people in limp biscuit? Mm. Do not one. Yeah, and you? Some more that I have to dress nice and to ta to to to to to to to to to dress nice. to dress nice. to dress nice. to to dress nice. to to dress nice. to to to dress nice and talk to people, I think. So a wedding? A wedding? A funeral? A funeral.

A funeral. Yeah. Yeah. I think my hell is my 20-year high school reunion, which is rapidly approaching. Sure. Yeah. And I think I might just actually go there and just set the whole thing on fire. I thought we were going to do a live episode from there. Oh, you want to? I would love that.

I would love that and they would expect nothing less from me. Class tombating. You're going to go back then and be like, fucking Katie ambulance is in the house. Kady ambulance. Nobody likes me. So we're in hell and then Julia is like, oh by the way, Shannard, uh, he get her gill in this box. And she pushes him into a box. And he becomes Shannard centibite. I'm confused by Shannard. He's an enthusiast of all of this shit. Yeah, yeah. And then he's surprised that this happens?

Yeah, he's horny for hell and then surprised when it happens. I don't get it. I don't know. And then when they like- Why is he brought around the hell-averse on that? I don't know. When they put the lines across his I was like, he's pinhead. I thought this was like a weird time shifting

thing where he was going to become pin. No, he's not. I thought that picture was of him. It's not of him. No, it's a different guy. It's of Monroeville's own, Doug Bradley's or Monroville. He lives in Monroeville. the terrible place to live. Strayer from Monroeville is a terrible place to live. Strayaco, Monroe is a terrible place to live. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just the largest strip malls. And Monster Golf, which is only fun for nine holes like all mini golf. Yeah, I fucking hate mini golf. I'm gonna open a mini golf that's nine holes. Nine holes.

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He's fucking fat. That's his gig. He's fat. He's fat. It's shitty. He's the California raisin of the bunch. He's, oh, doom it. I'm so man. You heard from the grapevine? So then there He's... Oh, do it. I'm so man. He heard from the grapevine? So then there's just a lot of like running, running, and running through hell. I don't know.

I missed all of this. Kirstie and Tiffany are running through hell so, so much. And Tiffany does not speak. She has not spoken. She has not spoken. going on and Kirstie isn't like, oh my God, you spoke. It's just now she speaks. I mean, she has been in hell for like a week. Is that how long? I don't think that's true. So at one point, it gets real windy. When? They're in hell.

Okay. And Kirstie and Tiffany are getting blown away. And Julia shows up, she's like, thrown up. And they're like this because I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, th, oh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thus, thus, thus, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, I I I I I that's, I I I that's, I I I that's, I I I that, I that, I that, I that, I that's that, I that, I that's that, I that, I that's that, I that's that, I that's that, that's that's that's tho, tho, tho. tho. tho. thoo. tho. thoooo. that's that's thoo. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's? And they're like, hey, hold my hand. And they rip her skin off and she blows away. I like this because I was like, oh, this is the end of the Julius skin debacle. It is not. It is not. I love when later we go back, because she's got the puzzle box. She's stolen it from Tiffany, because it's now become the puzzle like double pyramid. What? The puzzle rombus. And they have to go back and pick it back up and they go and there's just a pile of Julia like on the

floor and I was like that's kind of funny. But someone else puts on that Kirstie puts on that skin. This is the skin this is the skin. This is the skin. this isn't even Julia's skin. This is the skin talk I wanted to get into. But this isn't even the skin. This isn't even Julia's skin. This is the skin of the Mediterranean woman that Julia took it from. But it looks like Julia. Right. Well, I mean, that's what skin does in this movie, Alan. But Kiercy puts it on the skin. And she looks like Julia. Alan, Alan, this is the point you're going to pick at? All of it is garbage!

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But the writing is no better. The acting is fine, I get. It's just the whole thing. It's just, what are anybody doing? I don't understand why I'm watching it. The movie ended and I was like, if somebody asked me what the plot of this movie was, I would tell them I have no fucking idea. There's no plot. It's just get that skin back. That's not right. That's not how movies work. So Shannard attacks the other centibite. I really don't like it. I don't like any of it. The doctor attacks the other centibites. Why? the other? the other. Why the other? the other? Why the other? Why the other? Why? Why? That? That the other? That's? That's? That's the other? That's the other? That's the other? That's the other? That's the other the other? That's the other the other the other the other the other the other the other movies? That's the other the other the other the other the other the the movie? the movie? the movie? the movie? That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the other movies? That's the other movies? That's the other movies? That's the other movies? That's the other movies? That's the other movies? That's the other movies? That's the other movies? I? I? I? I the other movies? I the other movies. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the movie movies. I's not movies. I's not movies. I's not movies. I's not movies. It's not movies. That's notite. I really don't like it. Channard attacks... I don't like any of it. The doctor attacks the other centibites.

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Although does Chatterbox anybody ever fuck anybody? Does Pinn-it ever fuck anybody? Are they fucking anybody? He's always put it off for later. I have eternity to know your flesh. Do you think that Minhead has a arctile dysfunction? And he's like, I'm sorry, I can't get a boner, but I'll get it later. I'm gonna, yes, and I'm gonna start using, I have eternity to know your flesh as I'll do that later. Missy's like, Alan, it's trash night, and you're like, I have eternity to know your flesh.

I will do that later. So, Dr. Shannard has hands, like little snakes that rip out of his hands. Yes, you have snake hands, they look like shit. So the snake hand things look like little Audrey's from Little Shop of Horrors? Yes. With beaks? And they come out, and it's ridiculous, and it's stupid, and they have little tools inside them, like they're a multi-tool that you would wear on your belt. The problem is that they look like shit, but they only look like shit because it's 1988. Sure, yeah.

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It's a joke for all those old heads out there. I don't get any of this. She was a sex doctor from the 80s. Yeah, I know who Dr. Ruth is. I'm not an idiot. I'm also an adult. Alan. Yes.

I don't understand any of this. I'm feeling very distressed. I just have to keep going. Okay, just go. We're going to get to the end of this. I'm sorry. I look. I said post Thanksgiving. We're so drunk. It's not our fault. I'd love that this is our trunk of soon. Why did? Jim's going to be so sad. He's going to be like they didn't treat it with treat it with treat treat treat treat treat to treat it with to treat it with treat it with the treat it with to to to to their to their their with their with their with their to be like their to be like to be like their their their to be like to be to be to be to be to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I their. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm so. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to be so sad. He's going to be like, they didn't treat it with a respect it deserved. Kirstie puts on Julia's skin. Why? Starts making out with Dr. Shannard. Why? And then the dick that's been carrying him around the hell of verse rips his fucking head off.

Why? I know the answer to none of these questions. Why is Julia the apex of all that is he, like why is Julia, why does Julia have power? Literally all Julia did was fuck her husband's brother, who was a deadbeat, who fucked with jeans on? Like, anybody can do that. Everybody has a husband whose, who fucked with jeans on. Like anybody can do that. Everybody has a husband whose brother fucks with jeans on. So can I reach in my next couple notes? Please. His brain dick rips his head off.

His brain dick rips his head off. That's like a terrible vocabulary sentence. You know what I mean? Tiffany falls. She falls off the sides and she's, Tiffany screams herself off that cliff. I forgot that I had notes for this. I just stopped looking at them.

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She's a small, she's like a preteen maybe. She's like a 12 year old, 13 year old. She's in that phase of like, you could be 13, you could be 24, I don't fucking know how old you are. I'm gonna go, I'm an angle. I'm an angle to deal over a cliff. Yeah, you never screamed yourself off the building. Never screamed myself over the edge. The next note I have says, who in God's name would toucest that?

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When they're in like the pet store. No, I'm all listening. And there's a guy that's covered that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's covered that's covered that's covered that's covered that's covered that's that's that's covered that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that is Hellraiser 2, Hellbound. Hellbound for Leather. Alan, Alan, Alan, this isn't a movie. Like... It's not an articulated movie for sure. I cannot believe this movie got made. I cannot believe it, and I cannot believe they made so many after it. Yeah, there's like 10 of them now. This is really, really, really, really bad.

Are you going to parse this all together now? When you look at the trajectory of movie franchises. Yeah. Number one is generally great. Right, because if you're making a franchise, number one has to be good. Sure. Halloween. You've got your nightmare on Elm Street. Friday the 13th. These are great. I don't love how Razor 1st th be good. Sure. Halloween. You've got your nightmare on Elms. Friday the 13th. Who got your Friday the 13th. These are great. I don't love how Razor won, but it's a movie.

It's a movie. Yeah, beginning and middle. Babies, it's a movie. All right, you get to number two. Number two tries to the hospital. I don't want to be there. Friday 13th 2. Oh the heads in the fridge. I don't care. Now you ran Elmster 2. I don't think I've ever seen you. Get ready for next week everybody. Really? I just felt so sad inside. Hellraiser 2. What are you doing? It's not, I guess it picks up where the first movie left off, but it doesn't... Sure. Oh my god, what is happening? The plot

holes are just ripped into abyss. Abysses? Is abysses the plural of abyss, I don't know? Abysai? Can I please read you the names of the rest of abyss? I don't know. Abyss? Abysai? Can I plead, please read you the names of the rest of the Hellraiser movies? Oh, please. Hellraiser, three, Hell on Earth. Fine, it's the same as this one. A Hellraiser, Bloodline.

That's the one in space. Why is it in space? Oh, Alan, Alan, Alan, Alan, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the the'll get to it. No, Alan, I don't want to. Hellraiser, inferno. Hellraiser, hell-seeker. Wait. Hell-raiser, deader. Debtor? More dead, debtor. No, that's not a word. Hell-raiser, Hell World. No. And then hellraiser revelations

and hellraiser judgment. Alan, I don't want any of them. We don't have to do any more hell razors. And we're going to have to do the one in space, aren't we? At some point we're going to have to do it right now. Katie. Oh my God, I am dying alive. This week of watching these shii-a the shi the shi the shi the shi the shi the shi the shi th. the shi th. th. th. th. th. thi thi the thi thi thi thi. And thi. And thi. And we're the the the th. And thi-n't thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to know what his ways. No, oh my god, I am dying alive. This week of watching these shitty movies has been very bad for me. I watch them all week. Well, let's move on to a little place that I like to call. We have a turn to know your ratings phase. Zero. What you all don't know is that that zero was followed by a sip of beer.

I had a lot of beers. You have. And I'm sorry because I feel like this episode. Because I was pretty drunk. I'm sorry. You set a goal and you achieved it. The goal was to get real drunk. Yeah, during an episode. Hey, The goal was to get real drunk.

Yeah, during an episode. Hey, hey, remember when we got real drunk, watching Grabbers? Do you guys start go back and listen to the Grabbers episode? Because we got real drunk. In that episode. We just left Robb downstairs while we recorded. We were like, you drove me here. Someone's name was Russell Tovey.

He's a great actor. Katie thought it was ruffled hoagy. And I think about ruffled hoagy all the goddamn time. Do you think that's like a hoagie that's cut in a very special pattern? Or do you think it's a hoagie with like just some ruffle chips on it? I don't know. Do you know what's the best? potato chips on fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking tha than than than than than than than best? Potato chips on fucking sandwiches are the best. When I was a little girl, yes.

My Uncle Frank used to make me sandwiches with potatoes and chips on it. You can't bring up Uncle Frank during this movie. I have an Uncle Frank and he was a wonderful man. Yes. He used to make me a sandwich with chips with chips with chips on the boa. Yeah, a little crunch to it. Yeah, a little little to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thuuuuance. You th. You th. You thuance. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You thin. You thin. You can thin. You th. You to to to to to to to to to to th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You th. You th. You th. You th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. thr. thr. thr. thra. tha. thra. thra. thra. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. to to it. Yeah, it's nice, nice. So you gave this movie a zero, but you give chips on sandwiches a ten. Listen, I mean I'm from Pittsburgh where you put fries on everything. Which like I like...Frize and a fried egg on a sandwich? Fried? Do you think, is Friday going to sandwich a Pittsburgh, put a fried egg on a sandwich.

It's amazing. Put a fried egg on it. What do you have the cinnamon bun? Put a fucking fried egg on that thing. You have some like noodles and kale or whatever your shit ass is eating. Put some put a fried egg on it. I'm going to give this movie, I'm going to give this movie. I'm going to give the movie this movie this movie this movie this movie.. I this movie this movie this movie. I this movie. I this movie. I this movie. I this movie. I this movie. I the movie. I this movie. I'm to give this movie this movie this movie. I'm this movie. I the this movie. I the the movie. I'm going the the the the the the the the the the the the their. I. I. I. I their. I the the the the the the the cinnamon. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to Alan I am but take your love of Jim out of it I do love Jim he's my best I love Jim he's let's just take him and put him

over here I love this movie Alan why it's so stupid and it's so silly and fun and it's so silly and fun I find it really fun because they're just like, we haven't had a centabyte in a few minutes. Here's a centabyte, and they just like plop them in and it just seems like- Why does it not upset you as like a mark of bad movie making? Because, it seems almost joyous in their like cramming of everything into this.

And I love that there's a literal half hour of this movie that's a recap for the last movie. Which was not good, babies? It was not good. I agree, it's not a solid film. No. I'm going to give this movie a five though. I did it.

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Yeah, that's all. Get out of send us some mail bag stuff. I know that it's the holiday season. It's supposed, I feel like this happens every year. We've been doing this for a long time, no. Oh my god, so many years. Why are we not rich? I guess is my question. Shhh. we' we're rich. Are we rich? Yeah, I didn't tell you we're rich. We. Can you share me some money? Share me some money. I gotta get a newper home because I'm pretty drunk. So happens every year post-Halloween, like people are like, okay I'm kind of burnt out. Oh yeah, we get that we get the horror movies. Like I gotta go to like, uh, wherewolf Christmas ambulance and listen?

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Look, I don't just read these episodes of a Wikipedia thing I've never looked at before. The drunkest one is the one we're calling people up for their story. Look, happy holidays, babies. It's it's Thanksgiving. It's not Thanksgiving anymore, but it's Thanksgiving right now. In our hearts. Let's do a fucking good movie. I can't do any more of this crap movie.

Yeah, let's do something that's just like fun to watch. We haven't, a classic we haven't tackled. We've done it. You want to get into some Stephen, Kay. And some Ryan, both of them. Oh my god, both of them! Oh my god, both of them! Yeah, let's do it. We're bringing Phantom of the Paradise. Or sisters, or sisters? And Silver Bullet Together. Oh my God, don't say these things, don't say these things to our listeners. We're going to do Carrie.

Carry. It's a legit good movie. I'm going to talk about puberty, so get ready for it. Because I watched this movie when I was like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. thi. thi. Oh, thi. thi. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, thi. Oh, thi. Oh, the. Oh, thi. Oh, like 15. I was like, oh my god, yes, me. It's it me. It me. So come back next week. We're going to talk about Carrie. And... Bye. Bye.

Bye. Bye. I have nothing else to say to them. Thanks for listening to this drunk as soda. Look, I'm sorry, bye. Happy holidays. Bye.