Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 276- A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

In this week's episode, we're making the best of a bummer time (and, let's face it, a bummer movie) with the 2003 Korean film "A Tale of Two Sisters." Special topics for your consideration include: was it a mistake to cover one of horror history's most depressing films right about now?, trying to find an apt analogy for a weird situation, alternate theories about the ending, youthful skincare and bad dadding. Do you like Asian horror? Might we suggest Episode 7- "Ju-On: The Grudge," Episode 75- "Ritual (Modus Anomali)" or Episode 115- "Hausu"? And if you just can't get enough of us, you can get our faces printed on a t-shirt, throw pillow and more at www.teepublic.com/user/werewolfambulance. If our faces aren't doing it for you, may we suggest Brian from "Wings"?? Have you seen this one? What did you think? Let us know your thoughts at facebook.com/werewolfambulance, on Twitter @werebulance or on Instagram @werewolfambulance. You can also email us for our segment "MAILBAG!" at [e-mail] and if you're feeling super generous, leave us a rating and a review on Apple podcasts or wherever you can. Or hey, just tell a friend about us. Thank you for helping us continue to grow.  Theme music by Aaron "Toxic" Mortimer SoundCloud- https://soundcloud.com/toxic_dsm Contact- Facebook (ToxicDSM) or Instagram (toxic_dsm) Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast. 

Katie. Alan. I fucked up Katie. Oh you did. You did such big time fucked up. I fucked up. Oh you did such big time fucked up. I picked a real sad in a real sad time time. But I didn't even think about it. You were just like, oh, it's on, let's watch it. It's finally streaming. So I have this problem that you are well aware of where I love miserable art. Oh yeah. I love sad shit and I'm like, oh yeah, that's the best stuff. And then I forget that like, I'm then going to share this with the world. Right, and we have to make a comedy podcast about it which is, you know, you're laying, you're laying a tough row to hoe for us. But I think part of it is also like with Lake Mungo, which it was also a miserable movie.

Where I'm like, oh I get to share this with Katie. She's going to appreciate the art. Oh man, that's a real fucking bummer. I'm a dickhead. Yeah, totally, totally a dickhead. Speaking of sad news and this is on a serious note, we lost a very important member of the Werewulf Ambulance family recently. A number of you have asked after her in recent months because I hadn't mentioned her much, but Nanna did pass away a couple weeks ago. Thankfully not virus-related, it was being 96-related, so it sucks. And I wanted to tell you all because you all like Nanna too, and she was the best. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Alan picked this movie for us to do that would make me feel so much better, because I'm like dealing so well.

He's laughing so hard. He's so mean. You guys think I'm the mean one. Ah. I'm laughing because I feel like this is my heel turn. Oh yes, I love it. So what are we talking about? The South Korean movie, A Tale of Two Sisters from 2003.

I had only ever seen the American remake of this film, which is called Something Different. I believe it's called, oh shit, what is it called? The Uninvited, maybe? The Uninvited, yeah, yeah. Which is another South Korean movie. The title is. Yeah. But the plot is fairly similar to this. I have not seen it, but that's what that's my understanding. I took the plot to a tale of two

sisters and the name from the other movie. Yeah, it was pretty similar. It was really not good if I recall correctly. Okay. Which sucks because it kind of ruined this movie for me because I knew the twist from having seen a shitty movie. So I knew the twist in a good movie from having seen a shitty movie, which feels like a waste of your movie. You know what I mean? Oh, that is a, that's a huge bummer. I'm trying to that because that other piece would seem amazing. Yeah. Oh, I don't know what the analogy is here. I think it's like watching your ex have sex with someone prettier the park. If I do nothing else funny in this podcast, hopefully that got a laugh out of someone.

Should I do a quick synopsis of this movie? I mean, give it a bang, give it a go. This is a tale of two sisters, who have really sad lives. The end? Yeah, that synopsis would cover it yeah. In the first scene I thought it was going to be more like absurdist comedy because there's a very tall man washing his hands in a very short sink and I was like what is this? This is funny. I know how wrong I was. I like that that opening of what we first see, I guess a doctor, a psychologist probably,

washing his hands and then interviewing this woman who, uh, from the hair draping, looks a lot like Sadako from the ring. I going to say horror movies really like to have Asian women pull their hair down over their faces. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's when they're at their spookiest. Yeah, it's an L.E.W.K.K. Look. But I kind of felt like that, 2003 would have been the height of that, like Japanese, J-Har, like, Smoky, Ghost Lady, and White. So I feel like they play with that a little bit in this movie, even though it's Korean and not Japanese, and yeah, so yeah, we kind of get that right out of the gate, and then

we get like, Mozart played it on a guitar. Yeah, yeah, we do. It sounds cool, I guess. This is a very quiet movie. You know what I mean? Like there's a lot of just very quiet scenes for a very long time to open this film. So two things out of the gate, I would say about this movie. I think it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. Okay. And I think it's heavily Shakespearean in a this movie. I think it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. And I think it's heavily Shakespearean in a really weird way. Just the tragedy of it all?

Sort of the tragedy and that like being driven insane by your own inner demons and ghosts and all that stuff. Yeah, okay. It feels very Shakespearean to me and I fucking love the wallpaper in this movie. I'm nuts for it. I'm crazy about it. Oh I didn't even notice it. Normally decor is something I really like to look at. Can you describe this on Shutter? Or did you watch it on Amazon? Those are the two places where it's free? No, I'm not sure. You'd have to check your shutter account. The transfer or whatever on shutter was like kind of bad, kind of shabby.

Okay. Because I have a, I have a DVD of it, but I can't watch it because it's not the right region for the DVD player I currently have. I'll push my glasses up while I tell you about my nerd First World Problem. Is it a criterion collection? It is not. It's like when the before this movie hit the states, I bought a copy of it because at this point in time I was super into buying Asian horror movies. Sure. Everyone goes through that period, don't they? I think so. It's like your Don Knotts box sets. Oh my god, we got followed by Don Knotts 1924 on Instagram today and I got so excited. Whoa! Wow! They were like, these people are producing content that is for me, absolutely. It just says, the bio says, I love Don Knot's. Follow if you love him too. And I was like,

smash that follow button. To be fair. I'm not entirely convinced that you are not Don Nost, 1924, but that's fine. It's fine. It's fine. So, but the transfer that's on that DVD is super vibrant and the colors are like really popping. Yeah, it felt washed out to me which makes me think that I probably did watch the shutter version you're talking about. Yeah, and they might be the same transfer on shutter and Amazon since I don't know. They seem to share content. But the it's all these like floral almost paisley patterns on everything. Oh. And it's like it's on the wallpaper the almost paisley patterns on everything. Oh. And it's like, it's on the wallpaper, it's in the rugs,

anything that's painted has this pattern subtly in it. Weird. So it's almost like the house is infused with this. The house itself is so interesting because you can't, it doesn't tell you anything about the people that live there, otherwise, you know what I mean? Like, there are, there's nothing personal about it. You can't tell if it's a wealthy person's house or a middle class person's house. You can't tell who actually lives there.

There are like no photographs. There's like no personal effects that you can see out anywhere. And I didn't know if that was a Korean thing or specific to this film or you know what I mean? Yeah, it does feel, it feels extremely impersonal. Which obviously they need for the end of the movie, but okay. But it's also, it's like a summer home so it's not like your... Is it a summer? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's their it's their vacation

house. Okay, so they're rich people? Yes, he is a doctor I think. Oh, I don't know that. Oh, no. Okay, fine. I may just be saying that because they have a giant medicine cabinet. But I also love that it's very like that it's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, their, their, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's very like, the house reminds me if you were going to make a South Korean house on Haunted Hill sort of like Gothic house. Like I think with having the greenhouse right inside of the house and all that stuff, like it was really cool and yeah. Yeah. Are also plants outside that you can just open and eat and at this point I still thought it might be absurdist comedy and I was like oh is she looking for ham sandwiches in those plants? How adorable is Sueyon?

They're both so stinking cute. Yeah just when she like eats the first one and goes, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm. Like, How old are the actors playing the two sisters? They're in their early 20s? No, they're not. Those actors? Yeah.

Yeah, because it's, what, it's 17 years old old and the actress who plays Sue Me is now 40. Whoa, because I was like, God, this is such an intense role for a child. No. Well, how could I mean, I'm not the, how could I know? That woman is in her 20s? Yeah, she's 23. I'm doing something wrong with my skin care. I'm doing something wrong and I need someone to help me. Well, you probably need a full makeup crew. Yeah. You're going to need cameras with soft lighting at all times.

Yeah. She has a couple things going on that are probably putting her head of the game. I'm just saying, because I was like shocked that a child was doing this at the end. Okay, fine. Well, whatever, she's wearing a bucket hat. It's very youthful.

Oh yeah, yeah, and like, everything about them when they get out of the car in the beginning is like, oh, it's like a couple like 12-year-olds coming out of the car to hang out. Yeah, until for the entire movie it's like that. Although this movie should really just be called Lower Legs, because it is a lot of shots of, because at first I was like, there's a lot of shots of these two girls lower legs but now I'm like oh well they're women in their 20s. It could be called lower legs or it could be called what's that over there? Oh yeah, what is that over there though? Sue Me was the sister that we saw in the hospital. Right. And she, like watching this in retrospect having known known what's going to be the, the,

oh, you should watch this movie before we spoil it for you. Oh yeah, it's already spoiled in my own mind. Yeah. Having watched this movie a few times now, like, the, I should have picked up what was going to happen at the end of it. Because Dad only talks to Sue me. But the thing that throws you off is the stepmother talks to Sue Yan. Right. And she refers, she's several times refers to you two, but she means she's, well I guess that's not even her saying I was going to say that she's referring to Sue me and the dad but she's not actually even saying these things.

Right. Yeah. God damn it, this movie is such a headfuck. See that part, I did not realize, I did not realize that. So I knew that Sue Yan was dead from having seen the Shittier movie. But I didn't know that the stepmother wasn't, I didn't know that anything was odd about her. So that was actually really tha tha tha tha tha to to to to to to to to to the to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk to talk thia thiuuu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the. I theat, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, about her. So that was actually really throwing me that she was talking to both of them and that she was referring to them as you two, you know, like that really did throw me. Oh, that's, well I'm glad that there was still that, that revealed to be had.

And then even when it was revealed, I was like, wait what? What? So what we're kind of alluding to is that all of Sumi and her father are the only two people in this house except for the dinner party. Right, right. So the stepmother was never there until the last scene. Is that right? Right. Yeah. Who were the people at the dinner party? The stepmother's brother and his wife. Why are they having dinner there without her? You know what I mean?

I guess because they lived in the area. But why wasn't she there too? Uh, I guess she could, he, because he eventually calls her and says, come, I can't do this on my own. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Hmm. Why did he get engaged to her while their children's mother was still alive? That didn't make any sense to me. Like no wonder they're upset. Yeah, that shit is so like... That end sequence of explaining everything that happened and what set all this shit up is so like... I think that's what also feels like kind of Shakespeare About it because it's like word?

Yeah, you're gonna fucking kill your father after you stabbed your friend behind a curtain and like all that you know like it's so over the top But also heartbreaking. Oh, it's so sad. It's so sad. I fucked up and it's a weird because like the movie wants you to dislike the stepmother she came rolling in she shook over. She's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It. It. It. It. It. It's really really really really really. It's th. It's th. It's really really really. It's th. It's really really really. It's th. It's really. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi the the thi the thi the thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. because like the movie wants you to dislike the stepmother. She came rolling in, she took over, she's really annoying when she talks. Yeah. And she's mean to the children. But then when we actually see the actual stepmother at the end, she looks very different. She's like wearing much different, like a different hair style, different clothing. And she seems like very quiet and actually caring, which is weird because she also did this terrible thing, you know? Yeah, I think that is, I think that's a really interesting thing that this movie does where both,

when we see Suyan in the flashbacks, she's not the innocent child that she's portrayed as for most of the movie. She's a little bit more sophisticated and a little bit more adult about things. Oh right, her hair is like combed and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not just like all in front of her eyes and she's constantly shaking it out and doing the most adorable things a child could do. She's like a child-like puppy. She's, thi. She's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi's thi, thi, thi, thi doing the most adorable things a child could do. She's like a, oh god, she seems like a child like puppy, but she's a 20-something year old woman and now I just feel weird. Apparently in South Korea around this time, she was known as South Korea's little sister,

because she always played roles like this. That is so fucking cute. I hate it. Ugh. But so, like, the idea that like, the, the, Suyong and the stepmother that we've seen this whole time have been Sue Me's idea of what these people are. And so, like, the stepmother, when we meet her, initially in the movie, she seems like she just like did like five rails of blow? Yes. And it's just out of control excited. Which is because of the movie has been so quiet to that point, there's been like 20 minutes with almost no dialogue. And then she comes in and it's just like, boo-boo-boo-boo-who, which is like such a stark contrast. Yeah, for sure. And it's like it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's set th you's set th you's set th you's set th you's set th you's set set th you's set set set th you's set set set set to to th you's to set, to set to set you's to set you, to set you, to set you to set you to to the the th you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the th. the th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the the th. th. th. the th. It's like. It's like. It's like, the. It's thee. It's theee. It's theea. It's thea. It's thea. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It stark contrast. Yeah, for sure. And it's like, it's, it's set you off kilter when it happens. And I think the actress who plays her is amazing in that role. Yeah, she is, I mean, she's playing both sides of that.

She's playing a lot of different personalities in this movie. Yeah. So we go through, I guess the A story is Sumi and her father. And the B story is all thi is all thi is all thi is all the thi, it thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's all thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's the, it's the, it's thi, it's the thi, it's thus, it's thus, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, is Sumi and her father, and the B story is all of these horror elements that are going on. Right, let's talk about those. Please. Like, what did the sister-in-law see under this kitchen sink? I don't know, but that scene fucking haunts me.

Why does she have that seizure? Is that just something that, she's epileptic? Like, were they- Yeah, because they had her meds with her. Okay, okay, okay. And then she says I saw a girl under the kitchen sink, but we see something, but it's not clear what it is, I think. Right, there's like someone scrunched up under the and covered in coop. That's so Asian too I feel scrunching up under the sink for scares. It reminds me of the knee tickling kid in

Chew on, yeah. Fuck I love that kid. Toshio. That's right. And then like some other weird things are happening like when um... Sumi goes to put her like writing set away, there's an identical one in the desk already. And when she opens the closet, it's full of the same sets of identical clothes. What's the deal with that? So I think it's just saying that she's already unpacked all of her stuff here. This is already like her space that she's already claimed, but she's having this like disassociative moments where she's not realizing that she's doing these things and that's sort of the stark way of showing that. She just keeps hanging up the same article of clothing over and over. Right, and she's like, oh, I have to

unpack my bags but they're already done. Kind of. But it also adds like, there's all these things that connect her with her stepmother through the movie, and like the thing where like her stepmother's putting away the boxer shorts, which, come on, buddy, get some, get some briefs. Get some boxer briefs. Tighten it up down there. And there are, the boxer briefs, or the books, or the books, or the box, or the box, or the box, the box,there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense, I guess. I kept wondering also what the stepmother saw in the dad, but I guess maybe it was because he was rich.

You don't think it was the powder they put in his hair to make him look great? So weird. Like he tripped and fell into a pile of baby powder and was like, well, I guess I'll shoot this scene. That's the funny thing, like, there's so much attention to detail in this movie and then his hair is just like, work, okay, it's bad. It's bad. But the, my, my favorite scare in this movie is mom at the foot of the bed.

With a broken neck. Yeah. Yeah. foot of the bed. With a broken neck. The dreams are yeah. It's like the whole idea of like waking up and feeling like someone's in the room and then they're crawling on their hands and knees. What are you crawling across the floor about? What are you doing? But I feel like that's playing with those troops of that Jayhara that was so popular at the time to. How she just like broke neck jumps up on the bed? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's. It's the the the f. It's the f. I I I I the f. I the f. I the f. It's the f. I the f. It's the f. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the whole. It's like the whole. It's like the whole. It's like the whole. It's the whole. It's the whole. It's the whole. It's the whole. It's the whole. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It's th. It's tho. It's thooooooooooooooooo. It's like. It's like. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that Jayhara that was so popular at the time too. How she just like broke neck jumps up on the bed. Yes. I also like that that dream seems to be happening in broad daylight. Yeah. Because that's significantly less spooky which somehow makes it more spooky. You know what I mean? Yeah. Also whose hand was that coming down her mother's leg? I don't know?

I don't know. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I always, I've thought that that's like, just like hitting home. Oh yeah, by the way, this is her mother. There's a birth going on right now. So you shouldn't you know this is a mother figure. I mean, I feel like there's other ways they could have done that, but, but that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, thi, thi,there's other ways they could have done that, but okay, okay, okay, okay. A name tag? Yeah, name tag. It's me. My name's mom. It's a me, your mama. So I got to see this movie in a theater full of people. And that scene had people jumping and screaming. No, are you serious? Yeah, which was great.

You know which part really got me as a scare? Was the hand grabbing her hand, the stepmother's hand when she went to pick up the hair clip, even though I like, I knew it was gonna happen, I felt it in my bones and then the hand came out and grabbed her and I was like, e'errificed her and I was like, that hair clip for like I don't know 35 minutes but like most people would hit it on like

the 33rd minute but he's like hold on. I'm gonna get you on the 34th thing. This director is great too. He has another movie called I Saw the Devil which is about a serial killer who kills a woman whose husband is a cop and then the cop hunts the serial killer. Oh, that's very crime novel. Yeah, yeah, except he basically turns into the serial killer. Oh, cool. He becomes a monster. I like it. Because, yeah, it's really well done. But it was also like, much like this movie, you're not going to feel good after I like it. Because yeah, it's really well done, but it was also like, much like this movie, you're not going to feel good after you watch it. I mean, it doesn't

sound like uplifting subject matter, if that's what you're saying. Like, no. My wife is murdered by a serial killer, and then I bought a baseball team. And everything's scrappy baseball team, though, with like a super low budget. Uh, no, I like, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I t. t. t. t. to. to. teeee. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t. I t. team though with like a super low budget. No, I like that story. And the one breaks his arm, has to get a cast on it, and then he can pitch really, really well afterwards. Right, but there are also the ghost of the dead wife picks people up in the outfield and helps them catch fly balls. And it's Christopher Lloyd. I like that movie.

Wasn't he one of the angels in the Outfield? I think so. We should do that. I do like that. I do like that movie. I never saw the original. I just know the 90s remake. Okay. Okay.

Mm-hmm. I did not know there was an original. Yeah, I think it's from like the 50s or something. I mean, come on, that is such a not 1990s conceit. But I don't believe Tony Danza is in the first one. Isn't it Tony Danza? He is immortal. I don't know. I've never seen Angels in the Outfield. I just remember the video the VHS box having Christopher Loloid on it. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah, that whole scene with like the dream the dream the the bed, the the something's under the sink scene. Yeah. This movie does creaking so well too. So much creaking. Their creaking budget was enormous. How did you feel about the wardrobe moving around the house?

I didn't notice that it did. Yeah, at one point it was in the like dining room area? What? I had no idea. Yeah, when the, at the end, when she's like stuffed the bag full of porcelain dolls that she beats with a fire poker, a fireplace poker, that it's downstairs now. I didn't notice that.

Oh wow. Weird. I thought he had just gone up into that room, I guess. Yeah, yeah, it's like, they're like fucking with, yeah. Yeah, where was it the whole time and all that stuff and... Or why the dad didn't fucking get rid of it? Ugh, well, I mean, sell the house, get a new house. Right, yeah. It's your summer home, bye-bye.

Oh my god. Also, I like, if that's true that it's their summer home, then he like got her out of the hospital and went directly there. Why would you think that? Why would you not go to your main home? Just because it's summer? I was about to say, oh, because like, summer home is a happy place, except. Yeah, nothing in this movie is happy. Nothing in this movie is happy.

No. No. I fucked up. I watched this movie and I was just like, well I guess I'll go to bed. I guess I'll turn the lights off and just lay here and think about it. It was like 20 minutes into this movie and then I went, oh no. What did it? What did I do? What did you think was going to happen? See, this is why I think I might be stupid, because in my defense, I was like, God, this movie is so pretty. I love the soundtrack. The acting is so good. I don't think you're stupid. I think you're a sucker for Mozart played on guitar,

it turns out. I don't think you're stupid. I think you have a difficult time seeing the forest for the trees sometimes, which I do teal. It's fine. Especially with things that I really, really like. Yeah, you get too close to them. Yeah, it's like Reanimator. I'm like, oh of this movie? Um,

Do we want to tackle the reveal at the end of this movie? Yeah. Okay. As opposed to just letting it slide? Well, I think I have a note that was like, I don't know if we should talk about this. Well, we find out about like two-thirds of the way through that Suyun is dead because the father says it to sue me,

and she clearly doesn't accept it. Sue Yun's reaction to finding out that she's dead is like her screaming is so gut-wrenching. Yeah, it's brutal. But that's when like Sumi like just cracks. Yeah. When that happened and she starts seeing visions of herself as the stepmother. Like she remembers that she was the woman at the table during the uncomfortable dinner. Yeah, that was a weird story she was telling by the way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what was that about?

She had done so much speed that she couldn't even think stream for me. Yeah, and just like laughing hysterically. About the crazy neighbor who every time it would rain he would take his clothes off and there was the one day and oh my god it was the one day and then it would rain and it would stop and he put his clothes back on and take it back off and then you got took your clothes off and started dancing with him where the theylows tho where the brother's just like I don't remember that it was very strange in the context of that dinner that th. th. th. th. th. that th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi's the thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's the the the the thi's thi's their their that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi th the th th th th th th th thi thi the the the the thi thi the thi the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi the the thi thi thi thi thi thi they that's the thi thi thi the thi dinner scene where you don't know that she's not the stepmother. And the brother's just like, I don't remember that, and he's pissed. Yeah. You're like, wow, she's cracking up. This woman is cracking up.

Yeah. Yeah. But why is the brother so mad? He just doesn't want to be there? Like... I don't... Yeah, I guess, because this girl is pretending to be there? Like, I don't, yeah, I guess because this girl is pretending to be his sister. And it's just like... Is she pretending to be his sister? Or is that a story that she knows from the stepmother? Or is she just like babbling? As far as I can tell, she's pretending to be the sister and being like, oh, this is shared memory that we that I that we have from our childhood. Weird. Yeah. Well, because we see her, we previously saw the father put a set of pills down in front of the stepmother, and then in the

like weird realization scene, we see Sue Me taking the pills. Right. Okay, yeah. Maybe he should have given her the pills all. I mean, maybe they should have been more consistent with her medication. I think so? Yeah. Yeah. And probably put his foot down a little stronger about her not sleeping in the same bed as him. Yeah. That same was weird. I don't know. Parents and kids, I don't know, you know. Sure.

Sure. Yeah. But like, when your kid is pretending to be your wife? That's what I wasn't, I just, that's why I wasn't sure if she was actually like presenting as the stepmother to other people or if she, yeah, I guess so. Why wasn't the stepmother ever there then? What is happening?

So we can have that amazing reveal. Okay, yes, let's talk about the reveal. So Sumi keeps getting a looser and looser grip on reality. She is dragging a bag around the house and then having visions of the stepmother dragging her around and beating it and it being bloody, and she thinks her sister is in the bag. Right, it's like a stuffed full sack.

It's, there's another great jump scare where she's like reaching for the bag and it shifts Yeah, I liked that. She's like Ugh. Yeah, so eventually she I guess she knocks herself out with a statue. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Did she drop that on herself? Or next to herself when passed out I guess. I don't know because in that scene I was like, is she paralyzed? Like why is she doing nothing to help herself? But then I guess it's because she's, yeah, okay. Herself was attacking herself with the... Yeah, it gets really...

Oh my god. So then we see the stepmom is recovering from this attack with Sumi, and Sumi has been put to bed, I guess. And then, we see the stepmo the step step step step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step the step thoe thoe thoe thoomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomom tho I guess and then we see the stepmom and then in walk somebody else into the house and it's the stepmom and we get this like spinning camera reveal of the two stepmom's and then it's Summi and the stepmom in the same room. Yeah it's bizarre. It's great it looks great. It's so fucked up. But it's fun too because there's watching this movie again and again, there's multiple times where people block out other people in the same way.

So like there's different points throughout the movie where like dad is standing in front of Sue Me and you can't see her at all. Yeah. And that could be a reveal of something else. So that's really like it's fun. Gotcha. Yeah, totally. Because there's so much of this movie that's laid out the first scene when she's when Sumi's walking up to the house, she looks at the swing set, she looks at the window, she looks at all of the important points in the house. But in the beginning you don't know what she's doing, she's looking at her house. Gazing into her house, yeah.

So is this where we see the flashback of what actually happened to cause all of this? Or do you see the ghost child? The ghost child first come out of the wardrobe? I think there's the reveal of what happens and then we see the ghost the ghost the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiii, thi, thiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, of what happens and then we see the ghost shot. The ghost thing come out of the... Yeah. Okay, you tell me about it. The reveal? Yeah. So the history is the flashback that we see, I guess that's what they call it in films these days. Is the stepmom was at that vacation home with the family, mom was super bummed out. She's... Was she or was she not her nurse? I? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. thi? Yeah. thi? Yeah. thi. thi. thi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. thi. thi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the th mom was super bummed out. She's, was she or was she not her nurse? I think, I thought she worked with dad. But I don't know if she was mom's nurse or not. Gotcha, okay, carry on.

Because there's a bunch of, we see a bunch of pictures throughout the movie and their dad and stepmom, seemingly at work in lab codes. Mm-hmm. But I also think, mom to be sick as well. She starts to look unhealthy as the photos go on, and then when we finally see her in the flashback. I mean, I think that's the only reason he would get engaged to another woman

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I think they were just having like some kind of family get together. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Who the fuck knows? So we see mom and Su-Yon and they're like snuggling up and Suyon falls asleep and when she wakes up she hears her mother say her name, opens the wardrobe, or the wardrobe opens on its own, of course with creaking. And mom is hung herself in the wardrobe. When Suyun tries to free her, the wardrobe falls on top of her. How the fuck are gonna hang yourself in your kid's wardrobe? How the fuck you gonna do that?

That's a fucking monster move. Yeah, that's a monster move. That's just like, ah, how can I ruin this child for life? So everyone, everybody else in the house is pissy and in their own rooms and not paying attention to what's going on, except for stepmom. And she's conflicted about reporting what she's found out? Yeah, she goes up to help and then it seems like she was planning to help and then she gets into a fight with Sue Me, who's being a total little lip monster, giving her so much lip, which, okay. So much sass. And so in that moment,

the stepmother says to Sue Me, someday you may regret this moment. Because she's about to let her mother and her sister die, I guess. Yeah. But someday you should also regret this moment, you fucking monster! But then the question is, whose memory is this that we're watching? Is this an objective memory or is this Sumi? I think this is, well, I think this is objective because we're seeing multiple points of view. Yeah, but you are throughout the movie too, though. You see things from the stepmother's point of view

and from Sue Me's point of view. That's true. You actually even see a couple scenes where the dad's by himself. So. Oh, that's true. We're making phone calls and stuff. agonizing death of Sue Young in case you're worried that you weren't going to get to see that. Oh no, it goes on for a while. Her little fingers are wiggling until they're not anymore. And then you feel awful. Thank you, Alan. I fucked up. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And Sumi storms out of the house after being like, uh, can you get out of my way? Thank you. Yeah, she's so lipy. Yeah, she's so lipy a mom thing to say, and I'm so into you saying.

I've been telling Lucy to stop giving me lip lately, so. I love it. Yeah, just getting lippy. Getting mathy. Getting mathy. So, so the, and the movie ends on a still of Sumi's face that she's walking away into the woods to get away from her family whose half of them are dying. Right.

Fuck. Before we see this flashback though, we do see her being taken back to the mental hospital. Right. And Step Mom is giving her some bullshit about how she's always going to be there for her and she like she loves her and she's gonna support her. That's why I think Sue Me dreamed up this flashback. Oh okay okay. Okay. I don't know just my thought. Huh. Yeah. But we also see in what could or could not reality, stepmom is killed by a ghost of mom. Oh, I thought it was of Suyan. No, I'm pretty sure it's mom that comes creeping out of the...

But do you think that really happened too, her getting killed by something coming out of the wardrobe in a supernatural way, or do you think that's also just Suomi inventing things to like make the story make sense in her head? natural way or do you think that's also just Sumi inventing things to like make the story makes sense in her head? See I want that to be real? But what if she didn't really let the mother die to make Sumi regret it? You know what I mean? I mean what if the worst thing she did was get engaged to this man who his wife was dying? Which yes fucked up. No, I honestly I had never thought about it from that perspective, and that's really an interesting take on it.

That's a really interesting way to look at it. Because when we see her, when Sumi is pretending to be her, she's like dressed very sharply and wearing kind of a lot of makeup and her hair is very styled, when we see her in like the reality, she's wearing like kind of an ill-fitting suit and her hair is more dem demure. Her makeup is really demure and she her her mannerisms are very different. She's like very calm, very quiet. And then in the flashback, she's back to being the one that's in Sumi's brain. She's like dressed sharply, she's being a bitch. She's like, you know, acting irrationally, I don't know. So I don't think the stepmother really did that at all.

Oh, that's good, because that's one of the worst things I could think that a person would ever do, so I don't want to have done that. Yeah, that's what I think. I don't know. Also, I'm just like grasping for straws because everything is awful. We have a not awful movie coming up next week. This is what we get when we let people vote on things. Before we get to that, Katie, would you like to rate a tale of two sisters?

Sure. I like this movie. It's interesting. It's thought-provoking. It's intense. It's scary. It's really, really sad, and I feel like shit. So, um, seven and a half.

You? If I wasn't locked in my home during a global pandemic, I might feel a little better about it. If your friend had an ounce of fucking brains, you probably would have made you watch this right now. It's fine. Everything sucks. Go on.

We've got to watch Bring It On. Yeah, if you haven't gone back and downloaded that Bring It On. Go to it, you'll like it. You might. So this movie is a 10 for me? Oh yeah? I adore it. I think it's gorgeous and heartbreaking and like,

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, the the early 2000s, like I think this is top tier of that stuff for sure. Like it's amazing. Right, I think the only other Korean film, a horror film I've seen is One Mist Call, which is real shlocky. Yeah, there's a, there's some really good, I, so the movie, The Uninvited that that other movie stole the name of is phenomenal and I will never suggest it to anyone why because

it's it's also it's a it's a like it's almost a monkey Paul movie of like watch out for what you asked for because you might actually get it it it all about repressed memories and it is one of the most horrifically sad movies I've ever seen in my life. Great. Yeah like like but there's also a scene where someone does a header off of a third floor landing and I can't figure out where the cut is where they threw the dummy in. Oh damn. So it's like fucking brutal. Wow. Yeah I don't want that that's not for me. No. No. No. I put it up up up up it up it up it up it up it up th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I that that that tho. I the the the the the the the th. I the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I true. It's true. Uh, Katie. Katie. Kee. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that that that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that movie. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. the the the th. the the movie. th. th. th. take you to a little place called Mailbag? Please. I'd like to read you a review from Smells Like Vanilla? Smells Like Vanilla? There's a question mark.

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Please review Ghostbusters. That's the review? Sunglass's smiley face. That's it. Fuck. Fuck! I love that you fell out of frame for that. Thank you, smells like vanilla. Thank you.

I don't think we're going to do Ghostbusters though. Probably not. Maybe too. Yeah, maybe. I do love the sequel. It's like a bad cover version. How dare you? I know, I know, I'm in the minority.

I haven't watched it in a long time. Maybe I should do it again. Maybe you should just listen to some Jackie Wilson and think about how great life can be. It's true. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. Can I read you another review?

I don't think I've read this one yet on the podcast. This is from Jolo Ho Ho Ho. Ho? This is from, excuse me, so come again? Jolo Ho Ho Ho. Jolo Ho. Okay. I'm sorry, no, I too, I too, too many hoes. Jolo Ho. Hello, Jolo Ho?

How do you do? Five stars. I have to go. See what I did there. Yeah, I do. I do. I do. I do. Stop it. Why do you always have to have the last word? The last word? The last whoa. The last whoa. It's me. The subject line for this one is the subject line for this one is the Abbott and Costello of Horror Podcasts. Oh my goodness, how does that feel to you? We'll talk about that in a minute. Go ahead. You can tell Katie and Allen her best friends. Oh, slam dunk.

Hi-fife! They will make you laugh with their witty banter and back and forth with each other. Also, I don't agree with all their reviews. Christine and Katie's dislike of return to the living dead. I said I was fucking sorry, Jolo Ho, Ho. If I get a chance to redo it, maybe we will someday. I was in a bad mood, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. loud and I just didn't feel like watching the movie Oh my god, that guy was beat it like it over in money

I didn't know how much men jerked off until I live next door to this guy Oh, if you leave us alone. Yeah, he lived alone. It's bad. Jerked it and jerked it and jerked it. Okay, sorry Jolo Ho, Ho, go on. They keep me smiling throughout my work day. Uh-oh. Keep up the great work and let's go bucks. Yeah, let's go bucks. Although there's no baseball, so that's actually pretty sad. Oh, fuck. Well, thank you. Maybe later.

Thanks Jolo Ho. Thank you for the reviews. Thank you everybody for who has rated and reviewed us and And emailed us and messaged us and thanks guys. You guys are the best Yeah Yeah, I mean like a ton of people have been reaching out and saying how much the podcast is helping them during all of this and that helps us a to' to'n. Maybe they should be more grateful in not selecting the worst choice on a Twitter movie poll? Just kidding. So we put out a poll for next week's episode to see what you guys wanted us to talk about. Scream four? No, Scream three, or no, please say it.

Scathram? Or Friday the 13th, part six. So we're going to talk about it. We are. Thanks guys. What are we going to do after that, Alan? After that movie? We're going to do screen 3. It's the illusion of choice. I give it to the toddler all the time. Do you want me to brush your teeth over here or do you want me to brush them over there? Make your choice! A real green eggs and ham situation. Hmm. So come back, Friday the 13th part 6 is currently on shutter with the first 8th,

Friday the 13th movies. Oh my god, why? Why only the first 8? They were like, this is enough. I don't want to know. Don't even tell me. Yeah, I mean, you've seen 10. That's Jason X. Which I cannot believe we're doing this in such. As soon as I turn this on, I was like, didn't we just fucking do Jason X? It's what the fans want? Yep. Give the people what they want. It's fine. the to. to to to to to to to to the the to their. the their. the their. the their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their j. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the th. I the the the the the the th. I the the the th. I the the th. I the give the people what they want. It's fine, I'm here, it's fine. I'm really into the fact that we've done one, seven, eight, ten. We didn't do nine. And now we're going back to six. I'm enjoying this.

I also want to say that the only films of this franchise that I've ever watched voluntarily are one and two. That's it. The rest of them have all been for this. I'm actually looking forward to two. Have you ever seen it? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think I've seen, I saw the first six of this franchise when they were coming out. Gotcha. Yeah. Because, as we all know, I'm a thousand years old. Well, let's save this gold for next week. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. You can order a shirt at T-Public.com. Search wherewulf ambulance ambulance. T-E-E-E-P-L-I-L-I-C. And thank you to people who have been doing that during the pandemic. I'm glad that something is showing up at your front door and making you happy.

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