Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 324- The Bye Bye Man (2017)

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

Don't think it, don't say it, and frankly don't watch it. This might be the film that finally broke us-- it's the 2017 supernatural and inexplicable horror film "The Bye Bye Man." Special topics for y...our consideration include: things Carrie Ann Moss would rather be doing, things girls love (ransom note poetry, mostly), tiny doors, bad ideas, confusing nightstands and the ultimate challenge (paying any type of sustained attention to this film).  Here is a list of previous episodes and you can guess what they have in common! Episode 74- "Pay the Ghost," Episode 96- "The Conjuring," Episode 134- "#Horror" and Episode 181- "Tusk." (answer: films of the 2010s that we really hated!) Find us online: Support us at patreon.com/werewolfambulance and get bonus episodes about action movies Buy merch for yourself or those you love at www.teepublic.com/user/werewolfambulance on Reddit at r/werewolfambulance on Facebook at facebook.com/werewolfambulance on Twitter @werebulance on Instagram @werewolfambulance. werewolfambulance@gmail.com If you liked this, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. Someday we're gonna be #1 in Finland. Some sweet day. Intro song is by Alex Van Luvie Outro song is A. Wallis- "EMT" Seriously, we have the best listeners, hands down. Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alan. Katie. I don't want to be a fool for you. Just another player in your game for two. You may hate me, but it ain't no lie. Baby, bye, bye, bye. Bye. I don't really want to make it tough.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I just want to tell you that I've had enough. It might sound crazy, but it ain't no lie. by, man. That's a poem I wrote. Baby, bye, bye, ma'am. That's a poem I wrote for this show. It's about bye-bye, man. Do you like it? I do, but I am a little weird enough that your hair got spiky and blonde highlit while you were saying it.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I don't know. I think it's actually kind of a good look for me. Well, it looks really good with the upside-down visor that you have on and the white undershirt. Yeah I mean I wear the white undershirt to go with the sort of like trash baggy pants. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I'm glad you're you've, I'm glad you like my look. It's a good look. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Man. Well, I, truly. Why is that the name? I thought it would be explained.
Starting point is 00:01:31 The movie's about the name and they still don't explain it. And no... At the end of the movie I was just like, what a disappointment? I mean, truly, what a disappointment. I wanted Doug Jones to like saddle up next to somebody and just go, bye bye. Bye. Oh my God, though.
Starting point is 00:01:55 He's the, oh my god, bye, man. The only thing less interesting than bye-bye man is how interested Carrie Ann Moss is in being in this movie. Can we talk about Carrie Ann Moss for one moment? Please. This is like nearly 20 years after the Matrix. It's like 18 years. Oh, is it?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah. Shish. Isn't it? Isn't this like 20 years after the matrix? Yeah. She looks fucking stunning. Oh for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 She looks exactly the same. Yeah. That's bonkers. It's carry a mouse, man. Can age moss. So it's doing a great job, getting older. Anyway, sorry to talk about aging. I don't know why, I don't, do you think she like lost a bet or something?
Starting point is 00:02:48 Uh, was it too fay done away? And what is she here for? She's a widow exposition, I guess. She's like, I don't know if, uh, what is it's, uh,, oh god, what's the director's name? It's a woman, Stacy... Stacie Tidal? Yeah. I don't know if Stacey Tidal was her, like, niece or something?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, there seemed to be some favors happening here. At its heart, I don't hate this movie. I just hate everything about it. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's epically failing at doing what it set out to do. Which was to... Hold on now.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. So we also fucked up because this movie is leaving Netflix in like three weeks. Sure. It was like, oh, you only have until March 31st to because this movie is leaving Netflix in like three weeks. Sure. It was like, oh, you only have until March 31st to watch this. And I was like, oh, it's so good Netflix can't even contain it.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I assume it's going to the criterion channel. Oh, yeah. I also like how many warnings there are at the beginning of this movie. What the warn, I don't know if I noticed the warnings. It, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the the, the the the, the the the, the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the beginning of this movie? I don't know if I noticed the warnings. It's like sexuality, nudity, more, violence, smoke it. And it's like, it was like two lines of it. Wasn't one of them like naked violence or nudity and violent nudity or something? Like it was ridiculous. Oh, who writes these?
Starting point is 00:04:23 They've just got to be a, like a generator that's making them up, like the Wu Tang name generator. I love it. I already don't remember how this movie goes. Well, it starts off with your boy, Lee 1L. Wait, who's that? Do you remember in Insidius, there are the two supernatural investigator Lackies? Yeah. He's the nerdy one. Oh, the guy who wrote it or... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's also one of the dudes. He's the guy that Kerry OAS has to kill and saw.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Okay. Yeah, he's in all of the movies that he has anything to do with. And this. Well, that's a good gig. For sure. Hire me. I'm me. And I also do this other thing. You should always be multi-useful. I don't know, I cannot think of the word. I am having pandemic brain today. It's a cold when you can do more than one thing? Multitasking? No. Versi versatile. Uh, uh. Uh, Fuck off me. I don't, I just got so excited, or realized how
Starting point is 00:05:38 excited I get. I just did the New York Times Spelling Bee, which is one of my favorite relaxation things to do. Thank you for giving that to me for my birthday, by the way. Oh, of course. I hope you are enjoying it. I am. And when you complete the Spelling Bee and it says genius, I'm just like, fuck yeah, I am. I've never gotten it to genius.
Starting point is 00:05:58 What? I'll work on it tomorrow's. It's very it's very like satisfying to be have an inanimate object tell me that I'm a genius. Well I mean that's just objectively true at that point you know what I mean? Right, right. Computer said so it knows you're not a robot it knows you're a genius. It does. So yeah this movie starts off with Larry going around and murdering his neighbors because they found out about the bye-bye man. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And when this is going, I'm like, all right, so this is going to be a movie about gossiping in a suburban neighborhood and like, the ramifications of trying to like get involved in other people's lives where you're not supposed to be and maybe that'll be interesting. That sounds like an interesting premise for a film. Uh-huh. It's not it's not the one that we got. I am not sure I understand the premise of this film. May I ask a question? Uh-huh. Who is bye-bye man? Don't think it. No,. Who is Bye-bye-Man? Don't think it.
Starting point is 00:07:06 No, but who is Bye-By-Man? Don't say it. But who is... Bye-bye? Well, it's Doug Jones, everybody's favorite, very thin actor who gets appliances put on him. He looks like shit in this though, don't you think? This movie is so much better if you don't see Bye-by-Man's meat dog. Why does the try-by-man about meat-dog?
Starting point is 00:07:32 I don't know. Why does Bye-By-By-Man? Was there a backstory for B-By-By-Man that I just blew past? No! What? No? There wasn't. So, why does it have something to do with trains? There are all these train references in the film and there's no reason for them. I thought, um, uh, what the fuck is the kid's name? Elliot, I thought his parents died in a train accident.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But maybe I'm wrong? Oh, that's right. He does say it's a crash, but no one ever says what kind? Yeah, I mean, and there's a train, it's like a train going down the tracks with like the effluvium of someone's life spread all over the train tracks, like photographs and books and clothes. Uh, well, you know, that's more that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the thi. that's thi. thi. the. the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I and books and clothes. Uh, well, you know, that's more insight than I bothered, so I appreciate you doing that. I was like, this kid's parents are drunk drivers. I don't know. I thought it was like shame that he didn't tell anybody. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it just, like, this movie just breezes by anything that might be like, just stop thinkell anybody. I don't know. Yeah, I mean it just like this movie just breezes by anything that might be like, just stop thinking about it, don't think about it,
Starting point is 00:08:48 bye-bye, bye-bye, to that thought. Bye-bye. So the movie starts... I don't think it don't say it. The movie starts in 1969 and then I loved the way that they let you know that they were in the present by John Elliot's best friend saying what up playboy That screams 2017 to me if I'm being honest with you. What up? And he says and then says, damn son about something else. And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, we got it. He's the black friend, we got it.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It's modern days. Ah, the black friend in modern times, yes, yes, yes, yes. To me, he, John and Elliot's girlfriend, Sasha, who is like, why, he's so British, she's, it's embarrassing, it's embarrassing. So British that she can't actually act in this American movie. She is clenching her face so hard to prevent her British, to keep her Britishness in. Every client comes out like, I just don't know. Because she can't move her face.
Starting point is 00:10:09 She's her Britishness keeping through her pores. Do you think that every time they said cut she was just like, call blindly. I do. I do think it was just like that. And then she was like, what am I doing here? I'm probably better than this. So they find a home to rent near their college campus. It's a fucking manner.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Only ever live in shoe boxes. I don't understand this, but OK. There are just manners you can rent nearby as college students. And, and three of them living in shoe boxes. I don't understand this, but okay. There are just manners you can rent nearby as college students. And three of them living in a 15-person dwelling. Yeah, get some more roommates. Have a party. And that top floor? They do have a party. They do have a party. But they invite a four-year-old. That was weird, right? They had no other way to introduce that child.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Why did her parents bring her to a party where beer pong is happening? I say this is a parent of a small child. Like, if I think it's a beer pong kind of party, I'm getting a sitter. You are the only person I've ever played beer pong with. Really? Did we win? I don't remember. Yeah. A party at your abode, I should say.
Starting point is 00:11:33 There were other people involved in the beer pong. Sure, we probably didn't play one-on-one, would we? No, no. It wasn't a battle to end the, uh, battle for the ages of beer pong? Oh man, good old days. Good old party days. Imagine in COVID times trying to get a like, let's all swap beer bonks, whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I mean, just like wiping the rim with chlorox wipes before you do it again. Throwing the tongue ball and then a hand sanitizing. Drinking the beer through a wipe. Ew. Okay, so tell me about the top floor. It's beautiful. It's got a little water damage that no one ever addresses. No. Especially not Mr. Daisy, the gardener, who is also the owner of the home, the floral guy,
Starting point is 00:12:30 who seemed surprised that he was in a movie when they put him on camera? What? Who? Wondered if he was a real florist named Mr. Daisy, and they were like, wait, hold on, we'll be right back and just came back with a camera crew. And they were like, okay, Mr. Daisy. Katie, I believe that he played Zach on the episode of Seinfeld, entitled The Bookstore. Oh, I don't know which one that is. Was it the one where George takes the book into the bathroom and then he can't bring it back? They like, it's marked by having been in the bathroom. And th, the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And th. And th. And thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Okay, th. Okay, th, th, th, th, th, th. Okay, th. Okay, th. Okay, thi, th. Okay, th. Okay, th. Okay, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Okay, th. th. Okay, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. to, to, to, to, to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th th th th th th takes the book into the bathroom with him and then he can't bring it back, they like it's marked like having by having been in the bathroom. Then he tries to donate it to charity and they won't take it because it's been in a bathroom.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I hope it's that one. That sounds like what it has to be, right? I mean it could be any number of things. Signed home. Boom. So, I mean like, no, please, I would much rather you explain this movie than me. Why is the coin? What is the coin? There are several coins. That's like a really annoying thing to have a ghost do in your house. Like, drop coins on the floor, that's annoying as hell.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And they were like, they were like fucking D'Bloons too. It wasn't just like a nickel. And why were they? Because the only reference we've seen to the Bye-Man is the 1960s, in which they used basically the same coins we have now. Maybe this movie should have been called the why-W man. Oh like the Chinese restaurant in my neighborhood. Yes, yes. But I will say like at this point like you know that thing when you move into a new house
Starting point is 00:14:17 and it's unfamiliar and the first night sleeping there you're like this is when the man's going to come out of the closet and kill me. So when there's like coins dropping and doors slamming and Sasha is trying to act and... I hate it. And I'm going, where the fuck do I know that kid Elliot from? And only half paying attention because I'm trying to figure that out. Uh, where do you know I'm from? Big Love? The show starring Bill Paxton.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And uh... The Mormon one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Amanda Seafreed is on there of Jennifer's fame. It was fine, yeah. I mean, Bill Paxson. Yeah, that's her claim to fame. That's all I care about.
Starting point is 00:15:03 She didn't mean girls? What else is she in? Anyway, yes she was. Yeah, it's fine. I mean, if you enjoy Bill Paxton, it's worth it for the Bill Paxton. Will Bill Paxton? Mm-hmm. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:20 They're in this house, like, one of them opens a cabinet and is like all the dishes in here are white I'm just saying I was like what is that a reference I don't get or does it mean something that your dishes be white because like a lot of dishes are well he's the black man so he had to point this out to the the does that mean he only eats off of like black place settings? Who... That doesn't sound right to me. Who knows? He's in a restaurant, they bring him a white plate and he just like stands up and
Starting point is 00:15:54 smashes it on the floor. How dare you? Racist, sons of bitches! I mean, I feel like if you're going to say that this house is owned by racist, there are probably a hundred other ways to go about that. Very strange. It was very weird. Unless it was just supposed to be like a ha ha ha, non sequitur, but I don't know. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:20 It was something. Meanwhile, Elliot's wearing a Joy Division t-shirt and like giving his girlfriend a ransom note. Yeah, what the fuck was that? That is terrifying. She loves it! She eats it up. It's a poem that he wrote and it's all cut out letters from magazines.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And it's long, like how long, you're in college, you're on a scholarship, get back to studying. She read the whole thing and it was like, well, when's the part that says I'm going to kill you? When's the part that says I'm going to kill you? She's reading the whole thing and it takes forever and she's struggling through it and it's just so hard to watch. So they have this party because they for a character. Unless there's like a very specific reference, I feel. And is his daughter Alice? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And wife, mom of no name given. Yeah, the lady of the house. Mrs. Virgil. Mm-hmm. Good evening. And Virgil seems -hmm. Good evening. And Virgil seems to only be here to be like, yo, your friend's dancing too close to your girlfriend. He's putting his dick on her.
Starting point is 00:17:54 He is significantly older than Elliot, I would say. Sure. Sure. He was originally cast as his father. Uh-huh. And then they had to somehow bring a five-year-old to this party and leave her alone. Yeah. I assumed Virgil was brought in to die in this film. Or to give you something to latch on to that Elliot might care about in the world? Maybe? Yeah, he doesn't though. No, not really. Yeah, no, doesn't happen. What a playboy. But this does give us the like the, what I thought was the spookiest scene in this whole movie, which was when Alice goes up, tiny doors, tiny doors, when she goes into the attic room and she opens the one tiny door and the other one behind her opens the same time.... ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. th. th. th. th. th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No th. No, thi. No, thi, thi, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No, te. No, te. No, te. No, te. No, te. No, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the attic room and she opens the one tiny door and the other one behind her opens the same time and you can't make out what
Starting point is 00:18:48 comes out of the door you later learn that it's the meat dog in your let down but... 100% but I didn't notice it at first because I was paying attention to her and Missy was like oh that's creepy and so I had to rewind it and I was like oh shit that is creepy you are the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I's thi. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I's thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti ti te thi th And so I had to rewind it and I was like, oh shit, that is creepy. You are correct. Yeah. Plus you hate a tiny door. Who doesn't? They're tiny, they're scary. I mean, who are they for?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Tiny people. Sneak in to your house. Our meat dogs. I feel like you could really just th, oh, oh, oh, wow. Too greedy, too gritty. Why is there a meat dog? Why? Well, in the back story of Bye-By Man, we learned that he and the meat dog were best friends
Starting point is 00:19:36 who went on a cross-country, no, wait, that's Milo Notis. No, that's a fucked up movie. In this scene we also see Elliot go upstairs and open the drawer of the nightstand and somehow notice the inside of the drawer for the first time. How? How? How? If you see a table with a drawer and the table now belongs to you, isn't the first thing you do open that drawer? Yeah, yeah, you want to see what's in there. How are you going to set to set that to set that to set that to set the to to to to the to to to the to to to the to the to to to the to to the the to the the the the the thi? thi? tho? tho? the the the the tho, tho, tho, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they? they? they. they? Ohe, they? Ohe, thiia? Ohe? Ohe? Ohe? Oh, thia? Oh? Oh? Ia? Ia? Iaughea?o, tea?oooooooomeaueaueaueauea?oooea?oomea.a.a.a, tha, tha, yeah, you want to see what's in there. How are you going to set up that table and not open the drawer? Don't think it. Alan, I have to think it. Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't think it? Literally, we have to
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Starting point is 00:20:46 And I was like, no, no, they're not. Did they run out of Milwaukee's best? Is that what happened? Like, they had to get into Virgil's beer because he's their dad. And he just loves an IPA. This is based on the story, the bridge to body island. Wow, I genuinely don't know which is worse. What do you think? The bridge to body island sounds like, all right, between me and fucking that guy over here, that's the bridge to body island sounds like, all right, between me and fucking that guy over here,
Starting point is 00:21:25 that's the bridge to body island. Like it just sounds like the worst pickup line ever. Yeah, or somehow referring to like your erect penis as a bridge to body island, you know? Hop on to brink. The drawbridge is lowering. Wait, is that good or bad? I guess I don't know much about either penises or bridges. I'm a little sorry, well I'm not an engineer.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Bye-bye, man. I also meet Kim, who is Gothie. And also, I'm not sure what she's doing in this movie. She's just real like, hi, I'm here to say my lines. I'll be having maggots later. It's just two or three. What is Elliott hang up about someone who wears a hat inside the house? What is he? My grandfather? What's he doing?
Starting point is 00:22:28 He, he, his character is inexplicable. We're supposed to see him being like this sensitive baby flower, who's also just such an asshole sometimes about nothing. Yeah. It's weird. What is Elliot? What is Elliot? Is he mad? Is he mad? Is he tired? Is he tired? Is he tired? Is he need a he th a th a th a th a th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi? thi? to to to to to? to? to? to? thi? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? the grandfather? th? the grandfather? the grandfather? the the the the tha? tha? the the the thi thi thi thi thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thia? thia? thia? thiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? thiaa? tha? tha? tha? Is he mad? Is he tired? Does he need a snack? Why is he being like this? Bye bye, man, bye bye. Bye. You don't want to go bye bye. You don't want to go bye bye. I don't want to be accused of murdering people with a hammer.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I don't want to be left to wander all over a crime scene even though I'm the prime suspect. Wheeh! So what this movie presupposes is any goth-ish woman in your life is going to be burning sage, wearing a floppy hat and able to do a seance and she is also maybe psychic? She's an incredible psychic. Are you kidding me? She gets everything right. She's literally right about everything.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Did you yell fuck you at the movie when she was talking to Sasha and she's like, your grandmother has some biscuits or rolls and Sasha goes, GAM's Rolls. Fuck you, movie. Fuck you, movie. Fuck off. GAM's rolls. Calls your grandmother GAM.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's GAM. Just single GAM. GAM. Gamm of thrones. Space gam. My mother was gam-gam. Gamm. Call me gambury. So it seems like you can almost like conjure bye-by-man by saying his name, like I don't know, Bloody Mary or Beetlejuice or something was actually cool. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Okay. And somehow Kim knows this. thears. Well, doesn't it, he knows everything. Yeah, yeah, Kim is the omnipotent godhead of this movie. I think something scary happens in the saunceean, but I didn't write it down. She, it's not scary, like she's the, the, he, he, doesn't, he mentions, Elliot mentions bye-by man. The lights go out.
Starting point is 00:24:54 They come back on and she's like, folded up like a little pamphlet on the ground. Right. And then she goes and has sex with John. That is unfulfilling for both of them. You know, she still got it though. That was a really weird event to take place in her night and she still just went after it. Yeah, she's like, because she's like early on, he's like, hey, he does some like single entendre to her and she's like, yeah, no, I will do that. I will fuck you later. Yeah. And then he does it again, and she's like, I said we would fuck. Let it go. Listen, you vetted piece of shit. I already said this is gonna happen, and I'm not taking it back.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Stop asking. So, uh, meanwhile, upstairs, Elliot's Druid robe is just hanging on the wall at, like, head height? th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be, to be, to be, to be, to bea, to be to me told, to be, to be, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, the to me the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, threat, and I, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, the. I, the, the th is just hanging on the wall at like head height. Why is it like that? Why would you not move it? After the first couple of scares with it? I am, I spook myself up out all the time in the middle of the night. I'll wake up and see a shadow and be like, who's at? And it's usually a like, you know, eight-foot wardrobe that's always been in that corner. Right, it didn't suddenly get the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thigh thigh thigh thigh thi. thi. thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh thigh. Why thight thight thight thight thight thight thight thight thight thight th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why th. Why thi. Why thi. Why thi. Why thi. Why thi. Why thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo always been in that corner. Right, it didn't suddenly get there. We recently changed the position of our bed, so I had to like, my sleep brain had to real real line where everything is in the room. So I was having nights of waking up being like, what, huh?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Oh, okay, yeah, everything's fine. But yeah, just take... Where am I? I'm a little baby. I'm a little bye-bye man. Hard, it has a hard time with transitions. It's true, just sleepy transitions. Doesn't like to say bye-bye. Is there an antithesis to him that's like the hello man? Like, it does good things for people. Well, I hope so. I mean, can he be hi-hi? Hi-hi? Hi-hi.
Starting point is 00:26:52 So, I know that this movie was made by a woman, but I want to be very clear that no one sleeps in an underwire bra unless they utterly hate themselves. Because when they get up in the middle of the night, here comes Sasha, prancing around in an underwire bra, and I just feel like no, you would never. Didn't we learn from that documentary paranormal activity? They definitely do sleep in underwire bras? I just don't understand what the, what, why do people, why is that a thing? Why does anyone think that? Right now we have one listener who's like, fuck you, I sleep in and under wire bra. And to you, I say why?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Maybe they just like to keep him a secret, keep him close. I don't know. I don't think it don't say it, I guess. Meanwhile, Sasha's getting sick and just coughing with her mouth uncovered all the time and I kept thinking like is that a British thing? We've got NHS it doesn't matter. That's true. So we see this train again and I think it Elliot's having a dream about it so I wrote down the number I was like oh four two four one that's going to be important. No it's not. No it's not.
Starting point is 00:28:01 During this film I kept getting really hung up on who was going to mow the lawn at this house because it's a really, really, really big plot of land. Mr. Daisy. I didn't think the landlord was going to come do it, so I just kept like, every time they showed an exterior shot of the house and then they would go to something else, like I would have trouble focusing on that thing because I'd be like like who the the the the the thi who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who's who's who's who's who's who's who's who's who's like, who's like, who's like, who's like, who's like, who's like, who's like, who's thi, who's thi, who's thi, who's thi, thi, who's thi, who's, who's, who's, who's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thri, thri, thri. thri. thri. thri. thi. thi. thi's is thi's is thi, thi, thi, th'd be like who's going to mow it like that's riding mower territory. Like I just don't see them doing it. I don't know. That my friend is the sign of a good film. If you were wondering about who's doing the landscaping. He's going to do the chores. Who who is sweeping Zanadu in Citizen Kane? That's what I need to know. People are asking. That's why Orson Wells shot it from the floor up so you wouldn't be thinking about who's
Starting point is 00:28:51 sweeping the whole time. I mean, that's smart. You've got to keep people's attention focused on the story, and I think that's how you do it. So yeah, Sasha's getting sicker and sicker, and then she shows Elliot, her notebook in which she has drawn the bye-bye man and his bye-bye dog. These, those, she's like, I don't know how they got there, but like, those drawings would take a long-ass time. There's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And multiple ballpoint pins. Yeah, you're definitely running out of ink. There were some deep blacks at that, yeah. And then he's like, we made him real by saying it, but he's just an idea. And she was like, ideas are real. Fuck. No, madam, they aren't. I can assure you that none of them them them th them th them th them th them th them th them th them th them th th th th th th they are th th th th th th th th th madam, they aren't. I have lots of bad ideas and I can assure you that none of them are real. So this leads Elliot to put on a pair of glasses because he's got to go do research, which I loved.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oh yeah, he puts on his computer using glasses. He types Bye-bye man into the internet and nothing comes up. Wait, can I tell you, did you write down what the search engine was called? Search? Search! It's called search! You know what you're trying. Call it move. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Don't call it search. I always like it when it's the Google page, but they just removed Google from it. Search? Search? There are no results on search, so I guess it actually doesn't. And all I searched for was bye-bye man. Like, you're, if you, it's offensive that it didn't come up with the YouTube video for bye-bye. I also have multiple notes every time Sasha is sick on screen and on screen and I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:30:55 maybe it's the black mold from the water damage and the ceiling of your bedroom that you're not addressing. I kept thinking, why don't you go to student health? You're a college student. There's an infirmary somewhere on that campus. Go see someone, maybe you have bronchitis. There's a point where she's like running to a building and I was like, finally she's going to see a nurse. No, she's not. She's not doing that. I like how they indicate that she's getting sicker and sicker by just sort of making her to to to tha tha to m m m m ma by th again, th again, th again, thi by thi by thi by just thi by just thi by just thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to tooi.iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And, thi, th just sort of making her uglier too. Yeah. And putting her more in shadow.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, more in shadow and but she does not stop wearing those like incredibly skinny jeans. No. I'm not wearing those. I'm wearing those. I'm wearing those. I'm not sot pants, not Sasha. You know the college kids don't like to wear sweatpants. So tell me what he finds out at the library. Oh, first off, I have the note, nice, because he found that the information on the bye-by-man
Starting point is 00:31:52 was in Dead File 69. Redman. Nice. I wondered if that was somehow a reference to Red Man. Why? The rapper? I don't know, 69, somehow. He'd probably had it somewhere in the song. Dead File 69, I know it's Redman, but I'm going to keep saying Redman.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh, I see. I was like, I don't remember a Red Man song called Dead File 69, but I would listen to it. Stupid, Elliot with his stupid computer glasses on is like, Dead File 69, Red Man. What the fuck are you saying? I wish I had gone into Thunder Kiss 65, but someone had just sung Dead File 69. That's pretty great. Think about Rob Zombie all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I feel like they're whittling down by being shitty human beings who we can reference on this show. We can't make Marilyn Manson jokes anymore. Mm-mm. Don't do anything shitty, Rob Zombie. My new wholesome celebrity obsession is Tony Hawk. As it should be. I just don't ever want to hear anything bad that Tony Hawk has done ever. I can't think of anything that I've ever heard. I mean, I'm sure he has done something, but...
Starting point is 00:33:16 I mean, as bad as you or me, you know, like regular person bad. Right, right, not... What's the worst thing you've ever done? Well, let me go into it right now. What is it 3 a.m. did I just wake up? I'm gonna think about it for the next three hours. I found that reading, I've been reading this biography of jazz musician Sun Ra that's slightly boring. I found that reading... I started... I've been reading this biography of jazz musician Sunraw that's slightly boring, but it's great at 3 a.m. when I wake up and my brain wants to be like, I'm like, uh-uh, I'm reading about Sunraw, I'm falling right back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah, that's a good call. Having a book that you're not that into is a great way to go back to sleep. Yeah, yeah, and I'm making my way thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, I's, I'm that, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, th. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. th. th. th. thin. th. th. thi. thi. thea. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. th. that, that, thi. thi. thi. th. that you're not that into is a great way to go back to sleep. Yeah, yeah, and I'm making my way through the book, so it's working out. You think you're absorbing it or are you just like, yeah, right? No, I'm definitely, I'm fascinated by the man, but it's just a very long-winded book. It's like 500 pages. It's really insane. That's a lot to say about any. It's true. Oh, speaking of, have you seen this Stephen Kang Sharks of the Corn thing that's going around? No, is this a joke? What is happening? There's a movie called Stephen Kang's Sharks of the Corn. I feel like we are owed money.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I mean, I don't know how copyright works. I'm pretty sure we've said. I said that a long time ago. And it's recorded and it was released on a particular date. I wonder what we can do. Let's get our lawyer to write a strongly worded season to say. Okay. Should we print out the podcast and mail it to ourselves and that way it'll be coffee written?
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Starting point is 00:35:57 without being mob these days. Oh I know. It's a pandemic! Don't mob anyone, you guys. So, you guys. Do you think there would be like a Pittsburgh TMZ? Like, It's just what Bill Paduto's doing and then us. Hey guys, don't forget to vote against Bill Padoo. Hey, Ed Ganey for Mayor. He's a good community leader. He's a progressive guy supports the people
Starting point is 00:36:34 This podcast is officially Ed Ganey for Mayor. I'm in. I'm totally in. I'll bring you a yard sign So oh my god, this is a movie we have to keep talking about how he killed he just ruins this librarian's life and then kills her what the fuck she's the best thing in this movie? I? I feel I feel like I feel. I feel. I feel. I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I'm like, I'm like, I feel like, I'm like, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. I th. I th. I th. I'm. I'm. I'm, I'm, I'm. I th, I'm, I th, I th, I'm. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, the is a movie we have to keep talking about. He just ruins this librarian's life and then kills her. What the fuck? She's the best thing in this movie. I feel like she's been in everything? Yeah, I felt the same thing. Cleo King is the actress's name. Mrs. Watkins, which I loved when she calls his house and it just says Watkins. Why do you have the librarian's home? thian's thian's the thian's thian's the thian's thian's thian's thian's thian's thian thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th was like, why do you have the librarian's home phone number programmed into your phone? Ah, Watkins. Watkins.
Starting point is 00:37:09 But he's like, yeah, bye-bye man, and then the bye-bye man, and we buy-bye man. And she's like, mm-hmm, bye-bye man. I won't think it or say it. Bye-bye man. thin. Oh, and she's so helpful. She's helping him figure out the whole thing, which like he deserves none of this help because he's useless. Yeah. And so he has told this, oh my god, this made me so mad. He's told Sasha that he'll meet her at two like 18 times. And then he looks at his phone and it says 140 and he goes out loud to no one. Good, I have time. I have time. Fuck it. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Oh, thi. thi. Oh, thi. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, this. Oh, this. Oh, this. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, to. Oh, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. to toe. to toe. to toe. thi. th. th. th. th. It's like, fuck it, I heard you. I'm not even paying that close of attention and I knew you were supposed to meet her at two.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'm paying less attention than almost any other viewer. I'm having a minimum of two screen experiences right now. Honestly, if I could get away with three, I would. And he's late because he has blacked out and just written, don't think it, don't say it, and or bye-by-man in a notebook, I don't remember which it was. It doesn't matter, and he looks at his phone and now it's 237 and he's late to meet Sasha. He doesn't write it, he's scratching out bye-by-man in the article of the dead file and Mrs. Watkins says, what do you do a dip shit or whatever she says to him?
Starting point is 00:38:29 He is a dip shit though, he's a diphjit and a shit bird and a ding-dong and a bildo. Did you like how in this scene the, uh, the bye-bye man, is like moving closer and closer to him, like a ninja cat. And the library? He's in the chairs. Yeah, this is the next table, then the next table. I was like, that's cute, though. I wish every time he looked down, you would just hear,
Starting point is 00:39:00 pitter, bitter, better. Oh, it's not scary. It th. th, th, th, that that that that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, pitter better, bitter, better, a pitter better, a bit of better. It's not scary at all. Much like it's not scary when they fucking ripped off it, when John is looking at his phone at a photograph of a photograph and the bye-by man starts animating and coming after him. We already saw that an it. We saw that 27 years ago. Yeah, come on. Don't think we forgot about that TV miniseries.
Starting point is 00:39:30 You don't even have John Britter in this movie. What are you people doing? Zero Tim Curry's would not watch. John's car only peels out. Did you notice that? Every time he drives it, it only feels out. It's a muscle car. It's a muscle car. It's th. It's th. It's a that's a muscle. It's a that's a that's a muscle car. It's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a th. that's a th. that's a thi. thi. thi. thiol. that's. that's notice that? Every time he drives it, it only filled out. It's a muscle car, it's real musly. Did you feel like that guy would drive a Mustang though? No.
Starting point is 00:39:59 So Elliot's pissed because John has picked up Sasha and he's hugging her because she's not feeling well, like, he's just being a good friend? He's opening the door to the car for her because she doesn't feel good. He's picking her up because her boyfriend's 37 minutes late. And his cell phone is run out of juice because he was typing bye-by-man into it or whatever happened. Just texting bye-by-man to six, two, four, seven, three. It's not like earlier in the movie where they were, where he was grinding on her and they stopped and she turned around and shook his hand and then they walked away. I mean, I assumed they were gonna fuck and it was gonna break Elliot's heart, but like
Starting point is 00:40:36 that doesn't really happen. No, except in his, we didn't mention that the bye-by-man makes you see things that you don't want to see, because he's a bye-bye man. Because he's a bye-bye man, so that's how he gets Kim to run into that train. Kim, you fucking dummy, though. Like, even if you saw a family who had flipped their car and you heard the train coming, like, you're not just blindly running at them, you know what I mean? No one is that intent on helping at the scene of an accident that they run into train tracks while the train barrels down upon them. At some point earlier in the movie she's been like, she should have been like as a volunteer
Starting point is 00:41:16 EMT. I really have to get out there and make sure that I help people to make it make sense that she was doing this bullshit move. Yeah. She was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, I I I I I I th, she was like, she was like I I th, I th, I th, I th, I was like I was like I th, I was like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have like I have to to to to to to tho tho thoing thoing thoing thoing thoing the, I have thi, I have thi, I have thi, I have thi. I have th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the. I'm the. I'm theii. I'm thei. I'm thei. I'm thei. thi. the. I'm thi. I'm thi. make sense that she was doing this bullshit move. Yeah she was like I have to tell you guys that I am just super focused on being the first responder at a scene. So he picks Kim up from her house and she's got a bloody hammer in her bag and he's not asking her about the bloody hammer he's just like, huh? He just notices it and then is like, well, that's what girls who wear hats and doors have, I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Did you, so in the trailer for this movie, there's a scene where John is talking to Kim and a maggot falls out of her eye. Ooh. And in the movie, they're just in her hair. Yeah that definitely it was definitely not at all spooky when she had maggots on her because there were maybe three. Yeah I mean and I expect our hose full of maggots. Yeah we've lived through a we've lived through a maggot storm. Like how could I ever be impressed by anything other than a maggot storm or a Chinese takeout container full of maggots. What are you thinking? If somebody answering a phone with maggots glued to it?
Starting point is 00:42:29 I am non-plussed then. Someone literally vomiting because the maggot scene was so disgusting. God bless you, Lucio Fulchie, wherever you are. Close enough. Snuff to our hearts, I guess. How do we get to fade out away? Okay, hold on. You're passing over Carrie Ann Moss, who is the cop at the scene of the crime, the crime
Starting point is 00:42:53 being Kim getting hit by a train. And the conductor, is it the engineer or the engineer, I guess, of the train is like, yeah, you were chasing her onto the tracks with a hammer, I guess, which, how did he see that, but okay. Maybe he should have been focused on the woman standing in the middle of the train tracks. Yeah. So, Carrie Ann Moss is the cop who responds to this, and she tells him that he's basically the, like, they suspect him of murder. Yeah, yeah, prime suspect. And then she just lets him do whatever he wants at the scene.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Like nobody takes him into custody. Nobody talks to him. He's just allowed to like punch his friends and scream and yell around and... Did he drive his own vehicle to the police station? Because when his brother lets him out, his car is parked right in front of the cop station. No, this made me so mad because he says to his brother, thanks for picking me up. Yeah. And then he just takes his brother's car. And then he just takes his brother's car.
Starting point is 00:43:56 He says, you have a family, take care of him. and drive a car. Oh, is that what, it was his brother's car? I assume so he said his brother was picking him up. His brother couldn't have driven both cars there. Plus they towed his car there? Maybe the cops toed his car there, but then why would he need his brother to pick him up? I can only assume that the cops were like, hey, Carrie Ann Moss, maybe we shouldn't let him do that. And she's like, I don't give a fuck what happens. I want to go home and eat chips and gulloc with my dog. Carrie and Moss hates every second of this. I can't remember who looks at her at the crime scene, but she's got like blood coming out of her eyes.
Starting point is 00:44:48 She's like, blah-la-la. And it's like, her facial expression is, for fucks sake. Yeah, for fuck sake. There's a scene in this movie where she's made to cry by Elliot talking about her children. And you can tell that they just like turned the camera away and spritz her face with a water bottle to make her look a misty she is just like fuck every second of this. So Carrie Ann Moss desperately wants him to say what it is that he needs to say and what he needs to say is a bye-bye man. We're never told why it's so compelling to say it. Like why are you're, why is it so hard to not to to to to to to not to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say??? to to to to to to say? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. told why it's so compelling to say it.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Like, why are your, why is it so hard to not say it? Katie, we have said it at least a hundred times in this podcast. Well, I'm ready to die, so whatever. I really wish the name of this movie was What's Up Playboy? And that was the thing that you couldn't think or say. That I might have a hard time with. What's up. What's? What's? What's? What's. What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's? What's the the the the the the the the the the the to say? What's the to say? What's the thing that you couldn't think or say. That I might have a hard time with. What's up, Playboy? What's up, Playboy 2, colon, ready to die. Bye-bye, Playboy.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So he, I don't know, Elliot goes home, brains his friend with a baseball bat. Yeah, and Ms. Watkins is like, hey, I'm going to come over. I may have killed my entire family. Bye-bye, man. That is such a, like you said, that they glossed over everything that could be like important or interesting. What? What is going on with Mrs. Wai? I mean, obviously it's Bye-by-man, but like, it says later they say the bodies were mutilated, like why did she mutilate
Starting point is 00:46:25 her children? Yeah, why does Bye-By-Man make you kill? You have to kill everyone, like, you have to kill everyone who knows about the b-by-man, even if you told them about bye-by-man? How did Mrs. So like, Elliot is the only one... Fuck it. Yeah, because Larry, we keep flashing back to Larry and Larry is killing all the neighbors. And he's like, who did you tell? And they're like, nobody.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Shut the fuck up, Larry. Leave us alone. I'm gonna kill Ricky. And Larry kills himself after he kills all the people he thinks know about Bye-By-Man and he killed the story that he was writing about Bye-By-Man. Why did he not kill his nightstand in which he'd written Bye-By-Man? He did put, like, contact paper over top of it and then wrote, Don't Think It Don't Say it in a spiral, like he was in fucking writing lyrics for nine-inch nails.
Starting point is 00:47:27 So Larry had been married to Faye Donoay. She's, oh my god, that's right. How do outlive Rob and everyone refers to me as the widow my last name? I will kill myself. The widow Rob. He is the widow Red Man. God bless, fade on away. No, why are hangars? God, that shit haunted me for a long time. As it should, it's fucking terrifying.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. Maybe this movie doesn't need to be so long though as a note that I have at this point. For Bye-bye-Man? For Bibi-Man? Yeah, yeah. Because she's just chit-chatting away with Elliot about Larry and B-bye-By-Man, but she doesn't know the words. And then she just hands them a firearm from her robe and you're like, what? She also lives in the room where Frank was brought back from the dead in Hellraiser.
Starting point is 00:48:28 They show her house from the outside and it looks like a nice stately brick house. And then on the inside it's all like ramshackle with light coming through the walls. Yeah, yep. Why? What the fuck? Yeah, she's this there for no exposition. She's like an anti-exposition character. Why doesn't she have electricity? Maybe Redman didn't have a pension or life insurance.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah, the dollar box. Do you ever see the Red Man Cribbs episode? Not for a really, really long time. All I remember is like it's him and a bunch of his friends and he's like hanging out and he goes, oh this, this is the dollar box and it's just a shoebox filled with dollars. He's like, what if you want a soda? You just grab a dollar out of the dollar box and run down from a store to drink a soda. Wait was he the one who's like crew wasn't very nice and like the doorbell was broken and something was just like sleeping on the couch? If I remember correctly it was like his cousin's house that he did it in.
Starting point is 00:49:36 What is Red Man doing these days? Being a fucking genius. Yeah. Yeah he's still he touring and stuff like him and Method Man do tours together and... Do they? Yeah. That's great. You'd go see that. I would. Yeah. I wouldn't. I'd have to leave my house to do it, but, you know. I'd like the, I guess I'd like the credibility of saying that I would like, you know, deaf squad. Yeah, so Fade Donoghue tells him to kill himself. And he's like, I guess, okay, that sounds fine. I'm not doing anything else in this movie. Yeah, I mean, he's pretty much ready to die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah, and can you blame him? This is like a shit movie to live in. So he... Oh man, why is he hitting... Miss Watkins is just in the middle of the road and he hits her with his car? Yeah. Poor Mrs. Watkins is at a really shit day. Her day started out fine and then all of a sudden this punk-ass kid tells her about bye-by-man, her kids are dead and she gets hit by a car. That same punk-ass kid is driving. Yeah, right. Fucking Elliot. Because there's something where he sees something on the road that's not actually there, and then he hits her. I can't remember what... Of course he does. That's, I mean, that's not actually there, and then he hits her. I can't remember what... Of course he does.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah. That's, I mean, that's like, pulled from the Book of Horror, you know. So he gets back to his house and finds John trying to stab Sasha. I thought he found John trying to fuck Sasha. I think that was earlier. Okay. Oh, that's what he having to head with the baseball baseball, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck Sasha. I think that was earlier. Okay. Oh, that's what he happened to the head with the baseball bat. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:30 So he sees John trying to stab Sasha. And she's in this scene, she turns her head to him and just yells, Elliot, shoot! She doesn't know he is a gun. matter because she's not actually Sasha she's John and John is Sasha it was Sasha stabbing John and now he's shot Sasa Sasha Sasha I think I'm broken and while all this is going down Vir Virgil and Alice have shown up. And Virgil's trying to get into the house, and Alice just needs to piss. Why would you bring that child? He's clearly having a mental break.
Starting point is 00:52:11 This man needs to learn what kind of events are appropriate to bring a small child to. Well, you know, while a mom of indiscriminate name is at home doing her thing. Leave, listen, if your brother's having a mental break and you just picked him up from the police station and then he stole your car, maybe like go see him alone. Maybe don't bring a little kid. Yeah, but maybe mom's having like a frenzy at night. Or she's just like I got this box of wine take the kid to bed take the bag out of the box and squeeze it into your mouth step one step two step three I have the note is Alice the pee-pe man now that's how much this
Starting point is 00:52:58 movie broke me I love that like this movie showcases the fact that little kids are really fucking unreasonable all the time. They're like, I'm going to pee, and you're like, so pee, and they're like, meow. Oh, bye-bye, man. I don't know, so it's a, it ends up being a, uh, I thought it was a total party kill. And I thought, well, that's nice. At least they kill everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they don't. Because Virgil and Alice don't get killed? No, because John is still alive.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yes, but he's alive so that he can say, Bye-bye, man. To Carrie Ann Moss. And Carrie Ann Moss looks into the camera with all the emotions she can muster, which is exactly none. And these last scenes where there's like sort of a fake out where maybe Alice has read about Bye-By-Man inside the drawer of the nightstand? And she's like, Daddy, you know I can't read in the dark. You're like, ha ha, ha, your family's dead. I was just, I was like, just fucking end this movie. Like why? All of our main characters are dead.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Why am I still watching this? Bye-bye, Uncle Man. Oh, Katie. Oh, and I'm sorry. Why are you sorry? It's been a joy talking to you about it. But you know what, I went into this thinking, I hated it, but not that much. Now after I talked to you about it, I'm like, I detest it.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah, it's the worst. Yeah, it's clearly the worst. Well, let's, uh, before we give away too much, do you want to go the rating space? Yeah, would you like to go first first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first to go first? to go first to go first? to go first? to go first? to go to go to go to go. It does come around to being funny, which is nice. When is that? Because it's so stupid that you're just like, Carrie Ann Moss was like delightful in the malaise that she was giving me. No, I'll accept that. And Fade Down Away, I was just like, hell yeah, Fade Don Away, you fade down away, and I'm into this. Get your paycheck. But I'm gonna give this two. This movie gets a two for two buys in Bye-by, man. I'm surprised. You gave it such a high score.
Starting point is 00:55:26 It's really bad. There's nothing to it. It is no fun. No. It's just the acting is bad. Bye-bye man looks terrible. There's no reason for it. You can't even bring yourself to care that there isn't a reason. Like you can't even hate it. It's a one for me dog. It's one for me meat dog. I like you got me with that one shit I was not expecting it's a one for me dog.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I'd like to pull out a little Randy Jackson just when you're not expecting it. I feel like what Randy Jackson might say what's up Playboy to somebody? One hondo. I bet he starts a lot of text conversations that way. What's up Playboy? It's your friend, Randy Jackson. Oh, let's wash this stink off us, shall we? Do you want to do that with a message from a patron? I would love to do that with a message from a patron. These will show how good I am at timely messaging. This one is from Laura H. She's a fellow Pittsburgher, accountant and
Starting point is 00:56:46 lover of horror movies, and she says thank you for keeping me entertained during 2020. Oh, hi Laura H. Sorry we're so, so, so, so bad at messaging and we super appreciate your support. Our failings have nothing to do with you and I want you to know that. And I really appreciate you. It's a hundred percent true. I believe and trust and bye-by-man everything you said. I'm just going to use bye-by-man is my smurf to fill in everything. You're like what's the word for when you can do more than one thing? Oh bye-by-man. Oh the-bye man. Yeah, just meet me at the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the by-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-bye. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. that hand me that bye-bye man? What? No, just meet me at the, meet me at the bye-by-man. Look, you take a turn at the second bye-by-man and then you're gonna want to go straight
Starting point is 00:57:35 for two b-by-man's. No, it's the building where the bye-by-man used to be. What are we doing next week? What we're doing next week is a gift for another patron, or at least the father of a patron, the patron father. Our friend Nino. What are you laughing at? I feel like Nino has gotten so much play on this podcast recently and I'm 100% into it. More Nino all the time. You know it's like I'm famous because my name's being read aloud on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And now we're like here's Nino's social security number. Nino suggested that we do the Argento film Bird with the Crystal Plumage because he loves it. Mm-hmm. So I guess we're doing that. We better. the Argento film Bird with the Crystal Plumage because he loves it. So I guess we're doing that. We better, I watched it. Yeah, oh please, if I could hurt you. This can be found on YouTube. That's what I was just about to say.
Starting point is 00:58:40 And it doesn't even feel like you're stealing it because they weren't even trying to hide it. You just have to type Bird with the crystal plumage into the search bar. Yeah on some level I am definitely I think it's criminal that Argento's first movie is not available somewhere in a good streaming format. Yeah you know it's a passable quality though so if you're like a movie's on YouTube it's like a to be like a to be a the the the to a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a th. I I I I I I I I I I I th. th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a to be a to be a to be a thi. It's a to be a to bea. It's a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the the. the to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. It's as good as it would be on like Amazon Prime, I assure you. For sure. So come back for Bird with the Crystal Plymage. It's just like all I want to say is bye bye, I already did that last week and it just feels like so slow-hanging fruit, you know. Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, man. I don't know. I've got nothing.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Well, then just think of what. Oh, bird man. Birdman? Speaking of 90s hip hop. Which is that little? I just remember Birdman for that song. When birdman is saying, uh, what happened to that boy, and he makes the weird pigeon noise, what happened to that boy? Oh yes! Birdman! Well on that note... RRR. That's it.
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