Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 442- Videodrome (1983)

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

In this week's episode, we're discussing the intersection of media commentary and tummy vaginas with the 1983 David Cronenberg cult classic "Videodrome." Special topics for your consideration include: DEBBIE HARRY!, making it a pee-pee (whatever it may be), sexy ear piercing, physics-defying Betamax, the prophecies of Mr. Cronenberg and the strangest of trade shows.  We've covered a few of Cronenberg's films in the past: Episode 88- "Shivers," Episode 103- "The Fly," and Episode 177- "The Brood." We've also gushed over Debbie Harry once before: Episode 132- "Tales from the Darkside." The regular lineup of links! You can support us at patreon.com/werewolfambulance and get years' worth of action film commentary-- this month we are doing something special, just for us. leave us a message at 412-407-7025 hang out with some cool listeners at https://discord.gg/DutFjx3cBD  buy merch at www.teepublic.com/user/werewolfambulance we're on Reddit at r/werewolfambulance on Twitter @werebulance on Instagram @werewolfambulance. [e-mail] www.werewolfambulance.com if you feel you really must lodge a complaint with us, please do it on Facebook at facebook.com/werewolfambulance because we are probably not gonna see that, ever.   If you liked this, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen! It helps others find us and allows us to continue to grow. Intro song is by Alex Van Luvie Outro song is A. Wallis- "EMT" Seriously, we have the best listeners, hands down.

Alan. Yes, Katie. I have to tell you. Long live the new flesh. Long live the new flesh. No, live the new flesh. No, so as you know, I just returned last night from your ancestral homeland of Delaware, where I was having a little vacation with my friends.

May I sing the National Hentham of Delaware? Yeah. It sucks. I had a great time. Yeah, the beaches are great. I was there with my friend Perry oftwo previous episodes, and one of, we watched one of his favorite movies, just the other night, which is UHF with Weird El Yankovic. And when this movie started, I was like, oh no, it's a mean version of that.

It 100% is. It absolutely is. There's so many parallels. Perfect. That can't believe that's one of his favorite movies. Oh, why wouldn't it be? I feel like he's not old enough for that to be one of his favorite movies. I don't know. He does say Spatel a City, Spatel a City a lot. Does he want everyone to drink from the fire hose? Yeah.

Put your piss through the wall and check the time. I have not seen that movie since it came out. It's pretty funny. Oh I'm sure, I have no doubt. It's just like non-stop parodies, right? Exactly. Yeah. God bless, national treasure. Natch. Perry or Weirdo. Yeah.

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I got nothing for you, man. It doesn't make sense when sex happens in his movies. Look, the number of times men have pierced to my ears while I'm having sex with them. Won't they slowly grind from behind? What? Okay, first of all, I hate James Woods. Yeah, who doesn't? He's a piece of shit. But I also find him like physically repulsive,

which is I'm sure why he's cast in this film. Sure. He looks like somebody drew a chief Brody from Jaws from memory. Yeah. And like was like, it's fine. put it in your movie, it's fine. And then put it through the copy machine and it got like kind of warped a little bit and they were like, it's, that's, doesn't matter.

I mean, like, also, he's a piece of shit. Real bad dude. Yeah, I was like, oh man, I'm doing a movie with Debbie Harry and it, fuck it. Yeah, she makes up for everything. Great. This movie basically opens on him looking at stills of porn like their headshots, which I thought was very funny. I've never looked at a picture of a woman in orgasm and going, hmm, hmm, contemplative, yeah, I will contemplate. Hmm, what was the motivation for this photograph? Well, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's thi, she's th, she's th, she's th, she's th, she's th, she's th, she's th. She, she's th. She's thi, she's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thin, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, Hmm. What was the motivation for this photograph? Well, it's from a show called Samurai Dreams, which I would watch.

Before we get to Samurai Dreams, can we talk about his wake-up routine? Sure. You wake up. You make yourself a cappuccino after, out of a frothing apparatus to look like someone had diarrhea on it. Yeah, yeah. And then you eat cold pizza. Yeah. And then you get to the crust and you go, I'm gonna dip that crust in my cappuccino.

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I would. I see nothing wrong with it. Yeah, yeah. But I'm also from Pittsburgh, so I have ranch dressing to dip it in. You made a frothy ranching cappuccino. Ah, someone just threw up. And it's your fault. Ding, ring that pukebill. Yeah.

So yeah, he's going to sell Samurai Dreams to his co-owners of his channel Civic TV. Yes, he owns like a UHF station. It's channel, what, 83? I believe so. And he airs quite a bit of adult entertainment on it. That's what people want. They want sex and they want violence. Right, but could you do that on UHF? I mean, no, but yes.

OK. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean. I only vaguely remember the thanks. theyf stations. If I remember correctly, like public access. get away with like nudity in weird, like they would have like talk shows where people were naked and stuff like, but not like, it wasn't titillating, it was just like a nudist colony, like talk show or something. Like real sex on HBO.

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And it was like, the woman was like trying to sell a mirror. And so I called and I was like, can you have, um, I can't remember what her name. I think it was like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I can, I the, I the, I the, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, thi, and I would, thin, and I would, th. I would, and I would thi, and I would thr- I would thr- I would just, and I would the the the the they. And, and I would, and I would, and I would they. And I would they. And, and I would they. And, and I would call, and I would they. And, and I would they. And, and I would they. And, and I would th. And, and I would, and I would, and I would, and I would, and I would, and I would, and I would, and I would th. I would thr. I would thr. I would thru. I would thru. I would th. I would thru. I would th. I would thru. I would thru. I would thru. I would thru. I so they like held up the mirror and you could just see the camera guy standing behind the tripod and I was like nah never mind I don't want it. It was the greatest thing. Wow! Yeah, yeah. The auction show. I think it was called the auction show. What else would have you wanted if you bought anything you had to drive over to this place by the George Washington Bridge and buy it? I was like I'm not going to the to the to to the to to the to the to to the the to to the to the to the to the the to to the the the the to to the the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to to to to told. I'm told. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the their their their their their their their their things. things. things. things. things. things. th. th. the George Washington Bridge in Bahia. I was like, I'm not going in fucking North for sales. I figured maybe like TV trader could have been a name for it as well. No, the auction show. Once she was trying to sell an American flag that had never been taken out of its packaging, so I called and asked to see it out of its packaging. She opened it.

Shit. You're the original troll. I didn't have a lot to do. Hanging out, hanging out. Day drunk. I'm like a done auction show. So one of the partners says that this isn't tacky enough to turn him on, which I thought was a very telling line. Very funny.

Yeah. At this point, I'm like, I think this movie might be a comedy. Ooh, I don't think so. Yeah, but there's like some really funny stuff that happens in it? Yeah? Like that line? You think that's really funny? I do. Okay. Because I mean, I think this whole thing is like making fun of like TV producers.

Sure. And people who think they know what the public wants. It's like like like Noah like like like like like like like like like like like like like prophesizing film. Yes, we are all watching. Oh wait, no we are. Never mind. Right. W. W. E. is larger now than it's ever been. Sure. So he wants something that'll break through. This isn't too tame. He wants something tough. Something gritty. But meanwhile, the whole time David Cronenberg is like, I'll make it look like a th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the th. th. the the th. th. the th. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the to. to. to. to. the the t. t. t. t. t. t. th. th. th. th. thitty. But meanwhile the whole time David Cronenberg is like all make it look like a pee-bee. So there's just shit around that looks like pee-pies. Go on. I do like the scene in the, this is why I also think it's a comedy in the scene in Samurai Dreams when she's going to masturbate. Yes. But it's you know it's behind a screen so you can't actually see your masturbating. Not tacky enough. Not tacky enough. But yeah, her dildo is a little wooden dildo wearing a kimono and a wig. Yeah, that is very funny actually.

And I'm just like the, I'm done jerking off, I will redress my til and put it in the corner. When she takes the little wig off of it, you're like, oh no, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, oh, it, it, it, it, it, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is a thi, thi, ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthe, It gets vain by the base, but yeah. Samurai Dreams. This is like the beginning, this is also, this movie I'm sure is a prophecy. But I think it also prophesized all of these HBO shows where there's like a plot and you're engrossed on the plot and then all of a sudden people are just fucking and you're like, but how does this move the plot along? You know? So he goes and visits with his unscrambling employee, whose job is just to unscramble things? He's a nerd guy who appears to be cracking some sort of code

by putting a screwdriver into a computer towar, which, I mean, I don't know much about no hacking. Oh, it's all screwdriver-based. And that's how you get the info? You gotta put a screw right into the land card. Land card. There's a computer thing I know. And then some RAM, some memory comes out.

Well, you're going to need both of those if you're going to hack them. Mainframe. Yeah. So he's scrambling a show or unscrampling a show that's just torture porn. Yeah. It's gross. It's gross. And living in the city with August Underground, I could say that it's a thing that people want to watch. Are you not familiar with August? No. They make, um, they make like hyper realistic violent, or they did. I don't know if they still exist anymore. Hyper, like, hyper realistic gore. Oh.

And at one point, they made a movie that looked like a snuff film and like left tapes around. Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, it got a lot of notoriety for people being like, theylough. Yeah. good at what they do, but I think they're for a very specific audience. Which is a lot of what this movie is about. This movie is largely about like, I don't know if it's like saying that home video is the end of the fabric of our culture, but like the idea that when you start engaging with

only what you want to engage with, that like everything falls apart, the TV becomes more real than reality? Okay. See, I just watched that like everything falls apart? The TV becomes more real than reality? Yeah. Okay. See, I just watched it this morning, and I wish I'd had longer to think about it afterwards. That's something that I find really interesting about this film,

because on its face level, this is just an exploitation movie. This is just a gross exploitation movie, right? Yeah, I guess so. But there is so much like, uh, there's so much behind what he's doing in this. There's so much like, just like deep, deep understanding of things that's going on. It's such an intelligent movie. It's very complex. Yeah, yeah, but it's like, it's also gross. Oh, it's also like, you're gonna get something out of that for like a man's tummy gina. You're gonna get something out of that.

But like it is very like the movie's like I was like, oh this movie is like the film, the French like New Wave film Alphaville it has a lot of that vibe to it. Definitely seen that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh, Uh, AlphaVille is this like, it's a science fiction movie that has no science fiction in it. It's like all implied sci-fi. Okay. Yeah, it's very, I mean, you simply must. I simply must.

Quasant. I definitely didn't try to walk out of that movie. Oh, wow. How do you, did you just not make it? No, I was like, oh, Missy didn't want to leave. So, just wasn't for me. Yeah, but like I can understand like how that would influence what he's doing with this movie. Got it.

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What do you mean? He doesn't really go on a television panel with Nikki Brand. Oh, I don't know. Nick has been dead all along. Oh, spoilers for this movie. Has she? Yeah, hasn't she? I thought she didn't die until she left. I thought she died when she went to Pittsburgh.

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they say it's been four days of clear weather. And we were like, oh, why did the sheriff take so long? That storm never happened. It was all in their minds. It was all the witch making them think that there was a storm. I'm such a fucking idiot. No, you're not, what would you try to tell you. So the storm never happen? Sure. You don't know that the storm never happened.

Sure. You don't know that. I don't, I don't. They don't know that. I'm not pointing at you, but I mean them. And also they better have silenced their riggers too. Yeah, really. We're fucking professionals here. No, it was just Peacock letting me know what football matches I should be watching tomorrow. Ooh, what's on?

Uh, United and Tottenham tomorrow. Yeah, I know about that one. Yeah, fuck United. Yeah, sure. Sure. It's like Tottenham too, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it cares. I'm trying to be a Brentford fan.

Really? Yeah, they tied with shitty ass Tottenham too. Yeah, fucking Westham. Let's become Brentford supporters. I've got so many Westham shirts though, it seems like I should still- Yeah, you're right, you don't waste those. Yeah. All right, well. Any who. Any who, um. I'm glad our society has largely gotten over the violence and TV thing. I feel like that being such a such a plot point of the like 90 of my childhood, sure, that like TV makes children violent, and I feel like we've come to the, we've all come to at least,

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like you're from County Clark. That wasn't good was it? It wasn't. It wasn't. Can you do better? Ablagora? You'll be living in a hole if I don't get me gold? You just got to go into into lepre, into things that he definitely said in a Lepricon movie. Look we haven't seen all of them. We never know. And we never will. No. When he says to Debbie Harry is like, well if you're not in a sex, why are you wearing

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And then she's like, yeah, let's watch this porno, and then you can cut me. So they're watching video drum. Yeah. So I guess maybe this is where she first sees it. Yeah. So she actually is just this weird person. Yeah. I mean not weird. I mean she's weird. What's she doing on this TV saying, I live in a sexy, stimulated state? Okay. So, she's like, they're watching video drums. She's like, yeah, this does it for me. This really gets my hots to trots.

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And he meets my favorite character in the movie. Masha. I would watch Greek mythology porn though if they got the classics, right? I mean, there's a whole movie called Caligula. Yeah. I remember that being advertised in penthouse. Okay. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. She has her finger on the pulse of underground TV, does Masha? I think she does. Yeah. And she's like, I want to be your agent. I want you to make your own TV show. Right. Why does she want that?

Because he knows what's going on. He knows what should be out there. Okay. And she's the old guard and he's the new guard. Got it. So as far as I can tell, having not had much time to digest this movie, there are like three people or factions of people that know about Video Drome. And that's Brian Oblivion and his daughter, Masha, and what is it spectacular optometry or whatever? Yes, I believe so. Yeah, opticals, yeah. But she knows about it but just like doesn't like, I don't know, doesn't want to spread it. I thought she didn't know about it when he asked her about it. He's like, do you know about video drum?

And she says no. But she finds out for him, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right, so he's sort of a vector for spreading video drone. Right. Which he becomes even more of later. Yes. We'll get to it, we'll get to it, I guess. We'll get to it. Or we'll try. So then we cut to Debbie Harry is going to Pittsburgh

on assignment for two weeks? Yeah, she's gonna audition for Video Drone. Which she still thinks is a TV show, but she's perfect for it. Right, and she has now seen Video Drone, so perhaps hallucinating. Maybe. Or she's just so horny that she has to go there. He also says something about like wearing your sunscreen and I was like, yeah, it's Pittsburgh. I was like, oh, Kurniburg's been to Pittsburgh. It's a funny joke.

You think that's a joke? Yeah, I do. Okay. Or do you think people in Toronto just think anywhere south is sunnier than where they are? I think that's a Canadian, what is the word I'm looking for? Myth? Myth? Yeah, foktail? Yeah.

Um, but he's like, the South America, they execute people for it. In Pittsburgh, who knows? Hi, Lul. So much shit talking on Pittsburgh. I know. And then she's like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thitalking on Pittsburgh. I know. And then she's like, uh, sorry, I'm just gonna, I can't hear you, I'm burning my titty with a cigarette right now. She's a, so extra. She's just so extra. And he's like, yeah, right.

Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. I guess I'm down for this. So weird. Oh man. Cut to, belly dancer. Yes. You ever been in a restaurant with a belly dancer? No.

It's as uncomfortable as you think it might be. I can only imagine. I've been in a restaurant with a mariachi band and was incredibly uncomfortable with that too. When they just come to your table and scream sing at you? Yeah, I'm like I'm trying to eat this. I hate when people perform while I'm eating. Oh, I don't want it. I've never set foot in a Johnny Rockets for that reason.

Oh, I don't even, is that, I don't even know. Yeah, like Johnny Rockets, they like sing to the to-up. the would be singing and I was like, you're just singing, kill me. Yeah. Like, it's so sad that theater school didn't work out for you. So he's having lunch with Marsha. Masha?

Uh-huh. He says, did you get in tough the toughs with our friends in Pittsburgh and I thought that's us. It's definitely us. You got a friend in Pittsburgh. We got an email from somebody the other day that said, hey are you guys from Pittsburgh? It was like, what dog? Dude, you knew? Have you heard me? Yeah, she says she learned some stuff on the subterranean grapevine. Yeah, I like that. She's on like early 4chan somehow. You think Masha's an in-sell? No, Masha fucks. Masha definitely fucks. You don't make things like Apollo and Dionysus without fucking.

Masha knows how to fuck. I really want to watch that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude. So, complete diversion, but you were probably one of two people who might appreciate this. I was listening to a great to a great to a great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great might appreciate this. I was listening to a great courses on the Iliad and Homer. Ooh.

Because you know how I, you know how I get down. Yeah. And they were describing the relationship between Achilles and, why can I ever- Yes, Petroclus. And she's talking about it and I start tearing up and I was like, God damn you, that book that I read about their love. Broke my fucking heart. What is it called, Song of Achilles? Song of Achilles, yeah.

So good, you gave it to me for my birthday. I did, I thought you would like. I cried, I cried like, I cried like a baby. It's so good. And then Cercy, it was Yeah, that really made Circe Singh. Yeah, fantastic. Do everyone in the fucking Iliad make them have their own book? She's doing Persephoney next, but she had long COVID and is struggling with like, it's still struggling. Oh shit. It's a bummer. Yeah. Anyway, read read Madeline Miller's books. Yeah. I finally saw a picture of her and I was like, oh, you're exactly what I thought you would look like. Exactly. She looks like a classics professor from Boston, yeah.

But yeah, read her books, they're fantastic. Yeah, so good. Give them to your friends. Ah, anyway. So, Masha is a, is on the underground. Yeah. She finds out about the snuff TV. And she says it's more political than mafia? And I don't know what that means. He had suggested earlier in the movie that it might have been mafia. Oh, I see. Because they do business. Yeah. Yeah. She says it has a philosophy and that's what makes it dangerous. So she's like trying to sway him from it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God. This movie is too smart for its own good. I know. I have a note that she says

Marta pervert? Because she's got that thing about the server where she's like you're a little too old for me and then she looks at the server who is like 30? It's very interesting looking. We're in a very silly wig and she's like ah. And she tells him that Brian Oblivion is associated with a video drone. Right, Professor Brian Oblivion. So he goes to the Cathode Ray Mission, which makes no bones about what it is, like it's, you know, right there in the title. What is the going on in the Cathode Ray Mission? It's giving homeless people an opportunity to watch television to heal themselves.

To heal themselves. Uh-huh. Okay. Because TV is the thing that's going to help us all. It's a disease they're healing with television. Yep. That I'm unclear on Brian Oblivion's point of you. So is this like the TV the the the the the the TV the TV the TV the TV the TV th. T th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, I'm thi, thiolioliolv, that I that I that I that I that I'm that I that I'm that I'm that I'm that I that I'm that I that I'm that I that I that I that I's that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. that's that's thi. So is this like the the TV? And now I think this if this movie was made today would be social media right? It'd be what? Social media? Oh yeah. Where it's just like if we can keep them on here 24-7 watching this you know and just engaged without actually being engaged. Like, docile. We will make money off of this thing, off of their docility. Okay.

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Or is it magic? Yes. Okay. That's where we get into like, it's gone beyond beyond. Got it. Yeah, got it. His daughter says that the monologue is his preferred mode of discourse. Yeah. Which is, you know, obviously, obviously, thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thly thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th th th th th th th th thi. He thi. He thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thousan thousan thousan thooooooo-n. thooooooo-hea. thoooeo-hea. thi. thi mean? His daughter says that the monologue is his preferred mode of discourse. Which is, you know, obviously a statement about television talking to you and you can't talk back. Mm-hmm. And the television knows your name. Yeah, that's true. She has a great interesting mouth. Okay.

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Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So what's the deal with him going at home and unwrapping his gun? Why was it wrapped in like brown paper napkins? I don't know. Just on his refrigerator, there's a giant sign that says, Start the Day Well on Grapefruit? With a big grapefruit on it? Yeah.

And I thought, but why? Who doesn't love a grapefruit? He eats cold pizza for breakfast. And dips it in his cappuccino? Yeah. There's a knock on the door. It's his assistant. Yeah.

His delightful assistant. She is a goddame. What's your name, Bridey? Yes, Bridy. Okay. Where does David Kronenberg find all these amazing actors that I never see in other things? That's a great question. Like, is it a testament to his directing that these people are so fucking good? Maybe. Because all these people in this movie are a god-dama-a- How much Canadian cinema have you engaged with? That's true. I. I I I I I Ithis podcast. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

But like the guy who plays a convex? Yeah, and the guy who plays Harlan too. I really liked him. They're great. Never, they've been in like two other things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So his assistant comes and she's bringing him a new video tape, I think. Yeah. And he hallucinates that he slaps her?

Right, but when he slaps her, it's not her, it's Nicky Brand. Debbie Harry. Yes. And then he's like, I'm sorry for hitting you. And she's like, yeah, you didn't hit me. Yeah. And then he's like, beta max, that's what beta max is, right? Maybe, I don't know.

It like flexes, the tape flexes? Yeah, I don't think they flexed. I think they were just regular tapes, Katie. Do you think that beta max was like video drone? Is that why it like David Cronenberg is like now you are also fucked up from having watched my video drone you know watch it this morning I'm all I'm all messed up about it yeah yes so yeah the video like pulse it or the tape pulses at him and like the where the little sprockets go in to spin the things like bubble out like nipples it's very weird

in this tape we learn about Brian Oblivion's thesis, which is that television will become reality and reality will become less than television. Which is what I think has happened on social media with like you only engage in your like little, you know, bubble. Right. Yeah. Yeah. David Kronerberg was a fucking prophet.

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You talk about the brood. Talking about the brood? I love the brood. It doesn't. Oh my God. I'm just going to have a bunch of anger baby, so I'll see you later. And have Oliver Reed chase them around? Fantastic! Count me in. Beryl-chested maniac.

Brian Oblivion tells Max, Max is James Woods' character, he says your reality is already half video hallucination. Half! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He talks about how he got a brain tumor. When they removed the tumor, it was called VideoDrome, this is where he starts slipping for me. Yeah, yeah. He says he was video drone's first victim. Mm-hmm. Wait, what? And then we watch him being strangled by a man in a hood.

Yeah. Or is it, is it Debbie Harry? It's Debbie Harry? Yeah, yeah. She says, I want you, Max, come to me. And it zooms in so it's just her mouth. Yeah the TV has gotten pulsating and vainy. I hope my furniture doesn't undulate and grow dick veins because I watch too many movies. I want to rescind calling him a pervert. Yeah. I think he

just thinks that everything is sex. Yeah. Every fucking thing is sex. Which is I think makes you a bit of a perfect. So, the TV screen bubbles out and we have a close-up on Debbie Harry's teeth and mouth. I guess those are inner mouth. Generally. And James Woods pushes his face into the TV screen. Yeah. Like he was going to motorboat her mouth. Right. He goes all the way in. He goes all, he goes all the TV screen. Yeah. Like he was gonna motorboat her mouth. Right, he goes all the way in. He goes all the way. I don't know.

Oh, man. So he realizes that he's now, he has been hallucinating since he first saw video drone. Right. So he goes to see Bianca Oblivion again. Brian and Bianca Oblivion. So good. She tells him about how the tone of the hallucinations is determined by the tone of the tape's imagery? Sure. Which I don't quite get. Oh yeah. Because it seems like all video drum is just violence. There's no like happy episodes of Video Drome. It's true, but there's like sexual videos of video, like there's sexual violence, there's just

regular plain on murder violence. Just torture violence. Yeah. Okay. She also says that the signal from the videos induces a brain tumor in the viewer. Right and it can be be delivered under a test pattern or anything. Yeah, and he says, well, why'd you let me see it? Yeah, great question. She's like, I didn't know you. And then she tells him that her father is in the next room. Right, so when they open the door, what's in there? Brian Oblivion, right? Yeah, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, now. He's thousands of video tapes. That she has been like cataloging and potentially editing, I don't know.

Yeah. What a fucking life Bianco Oblivine is living? Just show and TV to homeless people and editing her dead for other people to watch. Very weird. She talks about how he made thousands of these tapes, like Michael Keaton in my life, because he was going to die. Do not bring that movie. So sad. I saw him like a goddamn child. Such a sad movie.

The premise of the movie is he's going to die. You know he's going to die. Fuck when they bring the little circus to tell. Oh, the little circus. It should we, oh no, Alan's crying. It's so beautiful. I love it when you're laughing at me crying. It's just the way you said. It's so beautiful. Oh, God. I love that.

We cut to, we find out that Harlan is not hallucinating. He's the guy who's been showing him video drone. Right, he's the guy with a screwdriver in the computer tower. Right, right. And then we cut to him, cut to James Wood, sitting in his apartment, wearing a shoulder holster and no shirt. We're just watching TV. And scratch in his tummy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thu. We. We, the thu. We thu. We the thu. We the thu. We the. We thu. We the. We the. We the. We th his apartment, wearing a shoulder holster and no shirt. Wow, we're just watching TV. Yeah, and scratch his tummy.

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Ha ha ha ha! Bury Convex would like to talk to you about video drone. So come on down to spectacular optical who make cheap glasses for the Third World and Missile Guided Systems for NATO. He says we make, yeah, inexpensive glasses for the Third World, missile guidance systems for NATO, and Video Drome. That's what he says they make. This is where I realize we were never going to get to go to Pittsburgh. But also, making cheap glasses for the Third World and missile guidance systems for NATO is very funny.

That is very funny. You're right. I just let this all slide over me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Why do people slow down when they go into them? They're wider than their own. You just run right over to Turtle Creek, though. Say it again. Turtle Creek? No. Crick! No! Yes! Anyway, Doug Bradley, I'm sure you're originally. I'm sure you're not listening.

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Then he starts hearing Barry Convex's voice saying, we want Channel 83, Max, give it to us, kill your partners and give us Channel 83. And I was like, fuck this is the plot of UHF. So he does not do that. He just goes and he reports himself to the police and that's the end of the movie. Yep, that's what happens. And or he reaches in his tummy vagina and pulls out a gun that then forms itself into his hand. I love this because it's a really kind of protracted scene of the gun, these little cables come out of it and they go through the thumb meat of his hand which is like looks so incredibly painful. And then into his wrist.

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A Grosso free society. Yeah. And Brian Oblivion is... Trying to heal people through TV? Maybe. Okay. I don't know. You know I'm not good at the thinking parts. I'm just trying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he... She shows him... Debbie Harry getting killed. Yeah. She said she's been dead since she left. Oh, since she killed. Yeah. She said she's been dead since she left. Oh, since she left. Okay.

So yeah, she tells him that basically he's an assassin for Video Drome now and that they can program him and play him like a video recorder. And at this point we see his hand with the gun and it's all like goopy around it. It looks like a real duke-fist. Penn. around it and the penis hand finger gun comes out of the TV yeah like if you had any question whether or not Coronaberg thought a gun was a dick yeah he has a dick gun come out of the television said he sure does and shoot at at max yes and then the TV turns into a man's chest? Max's chest. Yeah, it's with bullet holes in it.

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Exactly, yeah, yeah. We catch a news broadcast about the shootings of the other executives that Heaven's Gate would say. Exactly, yeah, yeah. We catch a news broadcast about the shootings of the other executives, and they're like 34-year-old Max Wren, and I threw back my head and screamed, 34! In what world? In what world? The 1980s, man, everybody looked old.

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Oh, fantastic. Yeah. But yeah, it's one hell of a script you got. Jesus! It's just like says something like you wouldn't be able to see anything without it. Right. The guy, calm down. It's like, no, what you want to hear a medical professional say? So he... Oh, his tummy hand eats, or it's tummy veg eats Harlan's hand. Right, Harlan is there with the box. And Max says to him, what's in the box? And Harlan says to him, that's in the box, and Harlan says your head, and I thought, oh my god. You fucking stole this from, he said, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, he's like, he's like, thu, thu, he's like, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, god you fucking stole this from he's fucking sold the seven. What if you said it's Quintoth Maltrow's head?

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tries to jam it into the tummy vagina. Yeah. But Max has a really strong core and he like holds on to him? Yeah. And eats his hand? Which comes out in the shape of a coffee can? A coffee can which is ticking? Which blows up and takes out a wall? Yeah. To which he walks out and says see you in Pittsburgh. Yeah. Okay. Is this what trade shows are like? Like weird dinner theater? I was going to ask you because I figured in in in in in in in in in in in in your in your in your in your in your in your in your in your in your in your a a a the the their in your a their their their their their their their to to their a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. this what trade shows are like, like weird dinner theater? I was going to ask you because I figured in your profession, you've probably been to more than I've had. I've been to many conferences, but I've never seen this.

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sometimes. So he's like, well, who cares? Just make it happen. What if Gina Davis gave birth to a maggot? Did you all ever think about the, I'll be the doctor, I'll be the doctor, don't worry about that. that's fine. So Max isn't then sneaking into the harbor, which now the movie's really beginning to lose me. Yeah. And he sneaks onto a boat.

It says condemned vessel, and I thought it seems like you could just move that. It's not like it's a condemned building, you know? Well, they have to dismantle it. I guess. Yeah, you can just put it out to sea. I'm done with this. I thought that's what we did in this country. Well, they're Canadian so they maybe they're better than us. It's like when Pittsburgh cut Donzies off the boardwalk down the, off the boardwalk walk board board board board board board board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board th and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just and just, the board wa wa wa wa. And just and just and just and just and just and just the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board their and just and just and just and just and just and just and just. I their. I their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th the the the the boardwalk down there and just shoved it down the river to Kentucky. Did you know we did that? It's pretty great. Donzys? Donzies? Donzies. It was a dance club. On the river? Yeah, it was like basically on like a floating barge that was like moored to the dock.

And when we got sick of it, or they filed her bankruptcy. So it like wasn't like thia thia th. thi th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoing, like, like, like, to to the thi. to be thoan-I. the thi, the thioms. tooanzies. theaunzies. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't tson. tson. to. tson't tson't, tson'n'n'n'nzonsi. tsonzzzzzzzies. tonsies. tonsiosies. tonsi. tonsi. Don't tons on a Friday night when it was full of patrols. No, but that would have been great. They just hooked it to a barge and took it to Kentucky. So he gets onto the boat, and Debbie Harry is in a TV on there? Right. I'm here to guide you, Max. Death is not the end. So she'll show him how to kill himself by shooting herself in the head. And when she does, the TV's hot dogs flop on the outside? Yeah, there's like a video of him with a burning barrel with his gun hand and then shooting himself with it.

Yeah. And someone says, Long Live the New Flesh, maybe he does? Yeah. And hot dogs come out. Yeah, the TV's glass breaks and the hot dogs come out. Started that fire though, because when we cut back to the scene, it's the same scene. Yeah, uh-huh, and then he says the thing and shoots himself. And she says come to Nikki. Yeah. He done did. He done did it. He done did it. He done. It was fantastic. I wish I. I genuinely wish I? I genuinely wish I the the the the the the the the video. the video. the video. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the the scene. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the scene. the the the thea. thea. thea. thea. the thea. the the scene. the scene. the. I loved it. I thought it was fantastic. I wish I genuinely wish I had watched it a couple days ago so that I have more like coherent thoughts about it because I want to sit with it for a while but I loved it. I thought it was great. I love all the Pittsburgh jokes. I love that David Kronenberg doesn't like Pittsburgh but he did in 1983. No, no. I'm gonna give it a nine.

I loved it. Yeah. What about you? What do you think? So I don't think I've seen this movie in probably 30 years? Okay. It was way weirder than I remember it being like. I remember all the weird bits, like all the like striking weird bits like Tummy

Jina and Debbie Harry being in it. I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I, I was like, I, I, I, I, I was like, I was like, I thi, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I don't thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I like, oh, this is our second Debbie Harry movie. It sure is. But, uh, yeah, I really, I mean, I think, like, at this point in time, in his directing career, like, this was his carpenter run, like, Cronberg is unfuithable at this point in time. I think this was his first, like, big studio movie. Yeah. And it did poorly at the box office. Of course. Because who would go see this? It's for such a specific group, but like, it's instantly a cold classic. Yeah, freaks and weirdos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think a nine is perfect for this movie. It's so good. It's so weird. Fuck James Woods. Fock James Woods. That's what's really not making it not a 10 for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's a it's. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a the. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. it's a fucking movie. It's why and it's like Like I said early, it's so much smarter than it has or needs to be Yeah, and like it could have just been a gross out movie about TV. It could have been street trash or could have been whatever. Yeah, or it could have been as dumb as they live, which is a very, very dumb movie.

Excuse me? Yeah, movie has a lot of great philosophical ideas. Like, um, Yep. The one with the, um... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you just buy in, I mean, you know, capitalism is the only idea. It's got a capitalism sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can I tell you something that I think, well, you won't like. What's that? I like David Kronenberg a lot better than John Carpenter. Interesting. That's fine. I don't think you're going to like that. Why would I not? I feel like you're going to get upset because you're going to get upset. You don't think That's one thing. I will say Prince of Darkness sucks.

I love you to death. You are allowed to be as wrong as you'd like to be. It's a fucking perfect movie. There's nothing I would change about that movie. You're insane. You're insane. Remember when that guy just tumbles into a bag of bugs? It's so good.

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Oh, hello. Pillsbury dough to poke them in the tunneling, theymea poke, Poak. Oh, the end of it they would poke them in the tunnelie and go, he-hee! Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for being awesome. Hearing your gleeful banter and sincere French, oh, you don't have consent to poke me. Oh. You poke chubby mums in the tum-tom.

I don't think we should do that. No. You have all the consent to poke me that you want. This guy, no. Sorry, Michael. So I don't know you. Denied. I do not know you're like to.

Yeah. Yeah, because if we walk outside and he pokes you I'm gonna be very upset Thank you for being awesome hearing your gleeful banter and sincere friendship has helped me through some lonely times Oh, Michael Yins the best did I yins correctly? Okay, um, it depends on what part of Pittsburgh you're from. Yeah, because you can drop infinitives like R and to be and things like that if you're really, really yinsy, so you could say yins the best? So, um... So, um, um, um, um, um, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be to be th, to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi. thi. the, the, the, thin, the, their their their their their their their their their their their their their to B and things like that if you're really, really yinzy so you could say yin's the best so you'd have to be deep yin's for that and if you really want to get like deep deep you would have pluralized it because there's two of us. Yins are the best. Yins are the best. Yins are the best. Yins are the best. Yins is are the best. Yeah, but but but yinses. Yins is the yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, yin, the, the, the, the, the, so, so, the, the, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, th, th, the, th, the, th, the, th, the, th, the, the, the, the, th. So, th. So, th. So, th, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, best. Yeah, it'd have to be, yin's the best. Yins are the best. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I would say you did a great job. Yeah, you did great. Yeah, don't, I mean, we're just throwing out helpful ideas

we're going to use it later in conversation. Sure. It's a gender neutral pronoun. But I don't know who would book us. P.S. I am also a six-foot-tall, big beard man. Alan, what is your beard care routine? Oh, tell us. Thanks. So I, you know, shampoo my beard, and I use some conditioner on it as well. What brand of shampoo are you?

What brand of shampoo? Uh, whatever? Yeah, same thing I used for my head. I did have a specific beard shampoo, but I found the results to be not that different from head shampoo. Even though beard people will tell you that it drains you of oils. But I always put an oil in my beard. I have a beard oil from honestly Amish that I use. And my eyebrows just hit my hair line. It's got like avocado oil and a bunch of other oils. So I use that and that goes onto my skin under my beard so I'm not fl. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I'm the. And I'm the. And I'm the. And I'm not. And I'm not. And I'm not. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. And I'm th. their. th. their. th. th. th. their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I th. I th. I t. I t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. too. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the. the. So I use that and that goes on to my skin under my beard, so I'm not flaky. Okay. And then I have a beard balm that I use. This is your daily routine?

Yes. Wow. The beard balm that I use, that keeps the beard kind of the beard kind of streamlining, keeps the strays from sticking out. Okay. And then a brush for the final aspect of it. Yeah, I'm a lot. You are a lot. I'm so proud of you. Your beard does look great. It always looks great. Yeah. Thank you. Very well-kempt. I don't want to, I don't want to be a guy with a trashy beard. I'd like to have a good-looking beard. I would like you to put a ponytail holder in it, just sometimes, over. Why? Just for fun. Sometimes I do it when I'm reading because like if I'm laying down and reading my beard will stick up. Yeah. That's sometimes when I'm

reading I can't see around my nose. It does obscure my vision sometimes. I have another quick message. Yeah. This is from Scott. Hi Scott. And I have to sing this part. Wait let me just say thank you Michael. Yes, thank you, Michael. Oh, I'm halfway there. Please sing that. Scott, you dance for me, Klan. I did it. You did it, too. Polk not accepted, singing will do. Hope you guys guessed, heard you guys guessed on God-awful movies, so I decided to listen to the whole back catalog. Thank you. The latest episode is 441 and I just finished 221. Oh my God, you are halfway there. Yes. Just wanted to mark the occasion by letting you all know that you rule and hope that you read this so I can have a little time capsule by the time I get to the 440s. Thanks for all the laughs. Looking lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo I looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking looking to looking to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the to to the to the the to the the the to to the the the the to the to to to to to to to the the to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the time I get to the 440s. Thanks for all the laughs, looking forward to catching up, see what I did there.

Scott. Scott, I'm worried about you. Are you okay? I feel like that's a lot of us in your ears and we're not great. It took us eight years to get to this point. So you might go to give yourself a little leeway. And also just like those early episodes have to be rough right? Yeah, I'm not going back and listening to. I'm not going back to those.

No, no. God, no. Oh, but I would like to come back and do this again next week. Should we? Yeah, I think we should. Yeah, I the 80s. I love Bon Jovi. I don't know why you would say that to me. I'm from Pittsburgh. I fucking love Bon Jovi. We love Bon Jovi here.

It is called the New Jersey of the West. The West? The Western Pennsylvania. Katie. Alan. You picked it. What are the this is bad. It might be fantastic. Rotten Tomato tells me it's terrible. Sleanderman from 2018.

Are you sure it's not pronounced slenderman? It's probably slenderman. Hello. I'm Michael Slenderman. Hi. I'm Michael Slenderman. Hi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this. It is this. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. Creepy pasta. We're finally getting into the creepy pasta, although Empty Man was kind of creepy pasta too, wasn't it? Was it? It feels like it should have been. I understand conceptually what creepy pasta is. Maybe we'll get into it next week. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's getting into it next week. All right, when we do Slenderman? So come back for that. Get us, Patreon? Yeah, Patreon, find us on the internet. Email is the best way to get in touch because I'm not on any social media really anymore. Yeah. Um, so where will family links to Gmail.

Dot com? I don't thoubts to email. I'm happy for this. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Go to see what Jordan Peterson is up to. No, it's true.

Oh, he is on our discord now, though. It's a big fan of ours. I just wanted to say I'm a big fan of Wear Wolf Ambulance. Fuck you, Jordan Peterson. You guys got the opioid. to me. Fuzzo? do have plenty of should he need them. I gotta go to Russia and be put in a coma. Fucking. Yeah, what the fuck man? There's a lot of ways to get off benzos here in America. That doesn't involve going into a coma. Well he is Canadian. Oh, probably even better there and cheaper.

Yeah. So yeah, find us on the internet. Go buy a shirt at T Public or a phone case. So Katie could see a picture of your phone case. Has anyone ever sent one? Not yet. No, somebody buy the phone case. And come back next week for Slenderman. Okay. It seems like you had something to say. No, I was calling the cat. And thanks for listening to another episode of Wairwolf Ambulance. Bye-bye. Empty. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. MADY XA-9 dead pools, Savini's tidings at the pool. No way to wait, Finlay's to fulfill reviews.

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