Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 539 Dawn Of The Dead 1978

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

In this week's episode, we're discussing our good hometown guy, George Romero, and his 1978 classic sequel "Dawn of the Dead." Special topics for your consideration include: MONROEVILLE MALL!, Ken Foree being a total babe, what we might do in the zombie apocalypse other than lie down and die, Spam, amd your neighbor and mine but mostly mine Tom Savini. Want more of one of Pittsburgh's legends? Catch his work in Episodes 21 and 249- "Creepshow" and "Creepshow 2," respectively, Episode 137- "Monkey Shines," and Episode 488- "Day of the Dead." the regular lineup of links! You can support us at patreon.com/werewolfambulance and listen to a ton of action movie episodes. Get in now to vote for our next one! leave us a message at 412-407-7025 hang out with some cool listeners at https://discord.gg/DutFjx3cBD buy merch at www.teepublic.com/user/werewolfambulance the best place to reach us is at [e-mail] we're on Reddit at r/werewolfambulance sorta on Twitter @werebulance sorta on Instagram @werewolfambulance www.werewolfambulance.com if you feel you really must lodge a complaint with us, please do it on Facebook at facebook.com/werewolfambulance because we are probably not gonna see that, ever. If you liked this, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen! It helps others find us and allows us to continue to grow. Intro song is by Alex Van Luvie Outro song is A. Wallis- "EMT" Seriously, we have the best listeners, hands down.

Normally we just stare at each other and wait now. Three, two, one. I really had to fight to not say wait by White Lion because that is the Pavlovian response that I get. What are you talking about? You said wait, and so when I hear the word wait, I have to, the song, Wait by White Lion starts playing in my head. Wait, wait, no, I never had a chance to love you. Now I only want to say I love you one more time.

If he had never had a chance to love her, why is he? going to say it one more time. Is this your intro? No. Katie. Alan. Is that all going in the episode? No.

Oh, come on. It can. Leave it. Katie. What? You look so warm in that Allegheny County blanket that you're over there in. Just luxuriating and accents and all these landmarks. It's really, I mean, when the guy shows up wearing the Arco Pitcairn shirt, I was like,

Yeah, shit cairn. Call it shit cairn out here. There are so many people that are just like, when they're in Philly, that are people like, nah, I gotta go downtown. It's so good. It's so good. And the Monroeville Mall was not my home mall. Sure.

That's in the east. I lived in the north. Ross Park was my home mall. But it is exactly as I remember it looking from like going there in high school. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely the same. It looked not unlike that the first time I went there in like 1998. That's when I was in high school.

That makes sense. Why were you at the Minerville Mall in 1998? Because I loved Donna of the Dead, so I went to the Monroeville Mall. Was it all you dreamed it would be? There was like a hot topic. The coy pond was still there. Yes. Gone now.

Gone now. Is anything in Monroeville Mall? Nothing is there from the movie, but there is a George Romero bust that you can go and say. Okay. Not his bust. not just like a titty statue. Just George's tits. Why is it called a bust anyway?

I don't know. Hey, listeners with art history degrees? Sorry, am I not sitting in a room with a person with an art history degree? Yeah, I don't know what busts me is. Is it because it busted off the body? Yeah, because it's busting at him. Bustin, busting, busting, busting, busting. Bustin, busting.

Bustin makes me feel good. What are we talking about? We're talking about the 1978 George Romero Classic because we got called out on Reddit Dawn of the Dead. The film that was gracious enough to inspire Zach Snyder.

We did do that one. Yeah, we did that way. It's bad. It's just real action-y, right? Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, where this is a delving into existential dread. Yes, there's some existential titties

in this movie, which you know how I feel about that. Good. Great. Yeah. This is my favorite titty. I wish we had a different bill for existential titties. Yeah, it's a much lower pitch. Yes, we need a gong.

Titty gong. Send us in a gong. Please don't send us a gong. Missy will make you move out. This film opens the way that all cinema should open on a movie. And what's that? On carpeting. Okay, you're right.

It sure does. But it's very evocative carpeting because it's on the wall. Yes. because we're in a TV studio. Exactly. This shit is, shit is just hitting the fan. Yeah,

this is not long after Night of the Living Dead, though a decade after Night of the Living Dead. Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But timeline-wise, it's like 10 days

since the shit hit the fan. Okay, okay. I think they mentioned at some point. Oh, yeah. I definitely clocked that and wrote it down in my notes. What speed did you watch this movie? I'm not answering that.

4.9. No, because then I wouldn't have seen all the great details. the Gateway High School football schedule tacked up in the office at the mall. And I, like, paused it to see if they played Richland that year, which is my home school. Oh, your Amama Mata? Well, it's Pine Richland now, but it was just Richland back then.

Sure. Like the school district. Pine Richland School District. That's where I went, see. Oh, yeah. Okay. My job includes a lot of knowledge of school districts with the Pittsburgh area. I bet you do.

And now I feel like I shouldn't have told them for some reason where I went to high school. I mean, if they haven't killed us by now. Yeah, that's true. If you haven't killed me by now. If you haven't killed me. You will never, ever, ever kill me. Oh. I can always trust you to come in with that bit.

How much cringing do you think people do when we sing quite a bit? No, they love it. No. Worms their cockles. There are so many toasty cockles out there now. Gross. So this lady wakes up sleeping against the carpet on the wall in the TV studio. There is just a nightmare of confusion going on.

There's two dudes arguing in the main studio. And also every crew member on that show is also yelling. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like stuff's like, oh, come on. I don't understand what they're even. saying to one another? So I think the gist of it is, is that shit

has hit the fan, society is breaking down. And this guy is like trying to like be rational in this situation. And everyone's like, don't be fucking rationally, you fucking jag. We're trying to go do a thing. Yeah, I like this is a television station in Philadelphia, but you can see the words like McKeesport at the

bottom of the screen. I was like, that's fucking Pittsburgh. Philadelphia is so concerned with the McKee sport, McKee's rock's confusion that exists out here. Named after two different McKees as far as I know. I think so. I never remember which ones where. Actually, sometimes I have trouble with it, too.

McKee's Rocks is near, like, Brighton Heights, across the river from Brighton Heights. And everyone knows where Brighton Heights is. You do. Right? Fagely. Okay. The Keys Rocks is west and McKeesport is east, southeast. Essentially.

Yeah. Yeah. Fuck it. Anywho. No one cares. And that's your did-da-d-d-d-d-d-Ditt-D-D-D-Bittsburg Minute. Yeah. Oh, no.

there's going to be so many more. So so many more. Yes, we see George Romero and future ex-wife of George Romero are directing the news program. Oh, I didn't know that that was the future ex-wife of George Romero. In the Wikipedia page, it says future wife, and I'm pretty sure they got divorced at some point. Future ex-wife. God, I love referring to someone as your future ex-wife.

It's so mean. It's so mean, so unnecessarily mean. Yeah. But it's nice to see him. Hometown Hero. Oh, everybody loves George Romero, right? Never heard a bad thing about him. No, no, well liked.

Very well liked, yeah. And like stayed in Pittsburgh, right? Yeah, he's not like that son of a bitch Andy Warhol. Who? Yeah, Warhola. You fucking ethnic erasing scumbag. Left Pittsburgh the second you could. I know, it was a very homophobic time.

I would have probably gone to New York. Of course. No, no shame in his game. for running away, but like the fact that Pittsburgh will not stop honoring him and be like, no, he hated you. He hated every single one of us. Yes. Every, he would hate us now.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hundupi. Yeah. So this talk show's gone off the rails and they're putting up old info about rescue stations and our heroine of the film who is just, she's just a strong woman who's always standing up for herself passing every Bechtel test, whatever that is.

She, is nightmarishly passive. Oh, my God. That is Fran, or Francine Fran Fly Girl, Parker. Fran Fly Girl? Because her last, oh, because she learns to fly? Or because she's with Fly Boy? Because she's with Fly Boy.

That's dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I think that's just a Wikipedia thing. I don't think that's how she's credited in the middle. I would think George Romero would do better. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why I think that. He wrote this character.

He wrote this character, yeah. But he had Dario's hands in there, didn't he? Argento's little filthy fingers in this. If I remember this correctly, he wrote this in Rome. Okay. Like Arjento flew him over to Rome to write this movie. Gotcha. That's why there's like goblin bits and stuff in it.

Yeah, it's real like bottom of the barrel floor scrapings goblin, though. It's not as bad as like the Romero movies or Argento movies that just reuse songs from other movies. I don't know. A lot of this sounded. like eight-bit video game music, like I should be playing double dragon. Yeah, that's a little too funky. It's more taste than it had.

I own the goblin soundtrack and the other music from the movie. I have two LPs that have two different soundtracks. That has all like the, like the, but um, bum bum bum, bum. Yeah, and there is a lot of that. And the, uh, I'm a man song from when the guys are out hunting. the cruise starts leaving. They're done with this. Yeah, this is where we realize the TV is a dirty business. It really is. Yeah. Do you think this is from his experience of working on the Mr. Rogers show?

Yeah, I bet it was like this where they were like, triple pay, we're staying on the air and someone was like, fuck off. So Marshall Law is in effect. It's not, people are suggested to leave their own home. No, you're not permitted to stay in your own home. Not even. I haven't suggested. It is foreboden. Which is just like, wow, what are you doing there? And it doesn't tell them where to go. It says move to city centers.

Right, right. Just what, stand in the middle, like stand? Should we just be at like PPG Plaza? Just like waiting? Oh, or you would go down to City Hulk. Maybe hang out in Love Park for a little while. Oh, right. I'm in Philadelphia.

I'm in Philadelphia. Excuse me. Stephen approaches friend. Flyboy. Yes. He comes in and he says, I've got a helicopter, meet me on the roof at nine. And she's like, no, we can't run. And he's like, we're running, baby.

Yeah. And she's like, well, I had my own thought. I will give that up now and follow your wishes. Your thought is all that matters, yeah. And he's not like particularly charming or great. He's kind of sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's only one great dude in this movie.

That's Ken Foray. Yeah. Amazing character. Cute as a button. Oh, my God. It's still holding on to that hair? Looking good. Yeah, looking good.

Somebody says, Our Responsibility is finished. Oh, that's where she's talking to the cameraman. And he's like, Our responsibility is finished. Is it, though? You're the news. But it was great because he was like,

this is the one time I'll be in a movie. And I'm going to say it with all I can. I mean, this movie really lacks the gravitas of the first. Sure. Yes, but it is not as far down the rabbit hole of lack of gravitas as the third. What's the third one? Day of the Dead, the one in Florida.

Did we do that one too? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking Florida, though. I do love that movie, but it's like, yes, yes.

We all know what's happening here. And then we cut to the projects in Philadelphia. Right. They're looking for Martinez. Why are they looking for Martinez? Because he's in a gang or something. Doesn't seem like now is the time to be worried about that. Probably.

not. Because they're like Martinez, there will be no charges against you if you come out. And then he's like, yet. But like, what would he have been charged with? I don't know. Keep in mind, this is the police department that will later bomb part of its own city. Right, right. But Martinez and company come out and start shooting at the cops.

Yeah. Which is okay because they're saying a bunch of racist shit about black people in Puerto Ricans. Oh, my God. And the costume designed for the Puerto Ricans, they all look like Tommy Chong. The Martinez is played by a very white man. Yeah. He's Martin in the film Martin by George Romero. Oh, okay.

But it's like, he's brown-faced up for this. He's got a lot of bronzer on. Yeah. Yeah. Like a Trumpian amount of bronzer. This made me a little bit mad at George Romero. I get it. It's 1978.

Sure. And basically it's just there to be like, you know, cops are shit, right? Yeah, it's true. It's true. So the racist cop goes banana times. Yeah, he's just going in and shooting everybody. Kicking doors open and shooting people. Why are they, why were they kicking open everyone's doors?

Is it to evacuate them or is it to kill them? Yes, and. Got it. I assume it's so evacuate them. Because I think the theory is that Martinez controls this project, but they want to get everybody out of the project. I see. And to do that, they go in with machine guns. They sure do.

Yeah, which is the best way to get people to follow you is just try to just murder some of them. You know, in their position, I'm probably going with the cops. Yeah. The racist cop is named Woolley. Yeah. And I was wondering if that was a dig at Wooley's in the strip district. Do you know anything about the Woolley family? No.

I would believe it because the father, Bob Woolley, is a fucking creep. I met him at a family wedding. he was friends with someone and he was at this wedding. I was introduced to him and he just stared at my tits the entire time, never looked at my fucking face. I would not be surprised to learn that George Romero also hates Bob Woley. Let's make him the racist cop. But I just thought it was like, I bet.

I bet. Yeah. That's a little Easter egg for us. Yeah, yeah. This is for those who know and who have had their tits ogled. Yeah. You will know this guy's a piece of shit. Does not stop me buying fish there.

No, no. No. No. I gotta get, where else am I going to get squid? I do not know. Yeah, I don't know why I'm asking you. Although, uh,

quick diversion, I recently became a Costco member. Ooh. Went there for the first time. It's a nightmare hellscape. Oh, it's a nightmare hellscape. I did not know.

But you just, you have to go at off hours. Okay. You need to go on like a Tuesday at 3 p.m. Yeah. And you need to eat samples. Samps. And then you need to be able to take your time

in the aisles. I figured like you just, the nightmare hellscape was just punishment for being able to get like eight avocados for a dollar. Yeah, it's stupid. And like, we had some better than bouillon, bouillon. And we got like a coffee mug's worth for like six bucks. And I was like, what is this? Valhalla. You need a giant fucking jar of pickles. Yes. You need a giant fucking jar of mayonnaise. Do you need a pretzel the size of me? Yes. That you, I guess, microwave. I don't even know. I don't know. Who cares?

Buy it. And then you realize you filled a massive cart with shit and you're like, how many fruit sacks do I need? So Costco is sponsoring this episode of Whirling Ambulance, the Nightmare Hellscape, where you can get a lot of stuff for not that much money. Willie gets shot because he's going ape shit. Yeah. One of the cops shoots him. Yeah. Ken Foray shoots him.

Ken Foray shoots him. And then he kind of like points his gun at the rest of the cops and he's like, would you like to say something? Yeah. They're all like, mm-mm. No, you were seven feet taller than the rest of us. Yeah, he's massive. Yeah, he's a huge dude. Yeah.

So, but in the room where Willie, like, kicked the door in, on the floor behind his body is a mutilated corpse. Yes. And then the shit hits the fan. Yeah, we start to see all the zombies. Yeah. The blue makeup. Bitmeh.

They're dead. you know, blue. I feel like it looked a lot better, not in HD, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's always, like, even when I've seen this on VHS, it was that blue. Okay. But yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why everyone is that blue. It's too blue.

It's weird. It's a weird choice. Dr. Savini was the makeup artist on this movie. My neighbor and yours, but mostly mine. Thomas Savini. And luckily, he won't show up later in this movie and say anything weirdly racist. Yes. Weirdly racist. Why would you write this for your friend to say?

Fucking Pittsburgh Italians, I'll tell you what. Hey, don't besmirch your people. I am. I am the one who gets to besmirch my people. I'm welcome to garlic world tattoo. So this is where we see our first good special effect, though, which is where a woman is coming out of her apartment and a zombie grabs her from behind and, like, bites her shoulder and takes the whole bit off. I was very pleased with this.

It looks like it's filled with cottage cheese. It's real gnarly. Yeah, she wasn't ill. That we know of. True. So now everyone's just shooting zombies. Cops are getting attacked. They're killing zombies.

They're killing themselves. The one cop puts a gun to his cheek. Yeah. What else do you do in this situation? You and I have discussed this many times when the shit hits the fan. We out. Sionara. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't say. sign up to serve nor protect. So our POV cop, who was like, he was mentoring another cop earlier in the movie that got immediately shot in the head by Martinez. And now he's just shook to the core and he runs to the basement and throws up in a wash basin. And who is standing there behind a curtain?

Ken Foray. Ken Foray. Yeah. They're smoking in this building full of like gas. Yeah. Like, they just had to wear gas masks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, guys.

Okay. But I love the, like, I feel like in a different era, this would have been a love story between Roger and Peter. Yeah. Because they immediately are just like, you know what,

you're my dude. Were they not dudes before? No, they never met before. Okay, okay, okay. I don't think. Okay. And it was just like, you're good at murdering people.

Would you like to come with me? Yeah, he's basically like, I'm going to run. Do you think we should run? Like, I would 100% run. they're all having this like crisis of this like moral crisis about it right should run sure sure yeah sure but there's someone else down there with them yeah it's a priest there's a priest he's okay but he's got all these bodies barricaded in like a cell down there yeah maybe don't have broken

it open well he went in and gave them last rights yeah so that the cops could just murder everybody yeah or kill all the zombies it's not murdering the because they're already dead yeah yeah They're all like people just like on the floor chomping and writhing like a pizza party, but with writhing. I love the one extremely Italian-looking zombie who just has like the like his paint has been peeled down over his eyes. Yeah. And it's like, oh, that's, that's pretty fucking gruesome. It's like, this is a gruesome movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I like it. Maybe that's why they're blue. So it's like, hey, they're not real people. Yeah. I guess in two in scenes like this where there's just like cops running everywhere. and zombies running everywhere just to like make an easy distinction. Yeah, yeah. Later, they will all be in an assortment of outfits that you'll be able to recognize them in.

Yeah. So Ken, where I start shooting all those zombies, the priest is blessed, and he's just shooting them and crying. Yeah, he takes them all out. I thought that was a very nice scene. It is a very nice scene. And this part I remember grossing me out so badly as when I saw this as a younger person, just like all the eating. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, doing what it's supposed to do that, right? Yeah, for sure. This is a movie I feel like I've seen a number of times, but no parts of it ever really stick with me. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah.

I own a boxed set of it with all of the cuts of the movie. Naturally, you do. The most exciting thing about that is that there's the special features where they're doing a behind them, like in the back of the mall where they lived in stuff. There's a tour group going through there. And I'm watching it. I was like, holy shit, I know that guy. one of my friends was in the tour.

I immediately, like, message was like, oh, you're in this thing. He's like, oh, no, shit, I thought it might be. And then he went and got the box. Nice. So, yeah, we see Flyboy, and he's got the helicopter, and he's coming to, he's like, he's in a, the fuck do you call those? Like, an air control tower or something. Yeah, yeah. And there's a dead dude in there.

He's just, like, dragging the hose of the fuel line over the guy's body, like, already so callous to it. Yeah. So it just disconnected from his humanity at this point. Yeah. And Roger and Peter show up. Yeah. And they're going to get on the helicopter. He's like, I brought my friend.

Yeah. So were Roger and Stephen just friends? They were buds? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He seemed to know Fran as well. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah.

So there's this great scene where this like nerd cop rolls up to the helicopter and he's like, hey, any of you guys smokes? Yeah, what? He is so over the top. How am I going to go to the islands without? Cigarettes. Which island? Any islands.

I also love cigarettes. But it's a funny scene because as they fly away, half the people in helicopter are a little. This bitch lights a cigarette. Where did they think they were going to go in a boat, though? Where's the scoog will get you? Out to sea? Does it go to the ocean?

Yeah, you'll eventually get out. I mean, that's, yeah, Philly is a port city. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll eventually get out to the ocean. You have to go, like, down to, like, towards the end of Jersey and Delaware. That's not Philly anymore. I know, no, I know. I know. I'm just joking.

So they're going, rather than going east, they're going west. Right. In the helicopter. Right. And when we, when Roger wakes up on the helicopter, they're like, we're just, we're past Harrisburg. We're just out over Johnstown. He says, we just passed Harrisburg an hour ago.

I thought, how fucking slow does a helicopter go? Yeah, I don't know. how fast they are. I mean, if you were flying from Philly to Harrisburg in a plane, that's like a 30-minute flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just lamenting the Southwest not being a hub here anymore, and then we don't have the $45 each-way flights from Philly to Pittsburgh. Yeah, that was a nice look when we had it.

But yeah, they're flying over Johnstown, and he's like, these rednecks are probably enjoying the whole thing, to which I wrote L-O-L-L-L-L-L because those probably were those rednecks in Johnstown. And then we go down and hang out with the rednecks in the concedown. cops in the National Guard for a little while. They're all just cracking open Iron City beers. I love this. I have written here, George Romero was a great Western Pennsylvania.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And then the song, the most misogynist song that's ever been written is playing. It's called I'm a man. Oh, yes, yes. And she's like, like, I beat my wife because I'm a man. Well, do you. But we see them like, yes, just Western PA accenting all over the place and like

shooting zombies and being ridiculous. Shooting cars gas tanks for funsies. And it feels very much like the end scene of Night of the Living Dead. Yeah, it sure does. So yeah, yeah. So they have to stop for fuel. Yes, he picks it up and goes, damn near empty. And I thought, how can you tell on the fuel pump?

Oh, I don't know if you never noticed this when you're filling up your gas tank. If you lift the hose, you could feel the, no, I don't know. I was like, ooh, I'm about to learn something from my older, wiser friend. And then we've established that I am neither of those things. And I believe it every time. always gets me. But Roger is like, oh, this one has fuel. I'll fill it up.

And we see this zombie stand up that has a foot a head that is maybe three and a half feet tall. Oh, big head. Old big head here. I mean. And flat as the dickens. I feel like they could have not given him that close up. You know, he didn't need the close up. Why is his head look like that, Alan?

They have to set up what's going to happen. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. So everybody like like marbles drop. on the ground shoots off in different directions and leaves that Roger to fill the helicopter. No one's going to stand there and watch out for it. No. Roger can look out for himself.

So Peter goes into an office that's there. It's got a vending machine. It's out of order and then he gives it the old Fonz's treatment and the coffee falls out. Yeah. I like how he's just sitting there drinking the coffee and the next time we see him. And then he hears a little rattle, rattle at a door and some growling. What could it be? What comes out of the door? What could it be? What could it be?

It's two little kids. It's two little kids. At this point, Peter's just like head fucked to death. Yeah. He's like out of his mind. He's just tossing these zombie kids around and they're biting him, but they like can't break the skin. So he shoots them.

So he shoots them. Yeah, that's rough. And then he's super sad that he has to kill two children. They're already dead. It's true. But like the optics. Sure. Oh, the optics.

Yeah. He knows he's going to be on desk work after this like that guy in Diehard. Yeah. It's not a kid. But then we. old big head. What's he do, Alan? He walks up towards the helicopter to get it to Roger,

but to get to Roger, he has to climb the stack of boxes that put his head at rotor blade level, which are still spinning for some inexplicable reason. I guess you just want to leave it running because you want to hop back in and fly away. Right, in case they got to make a quick escape, yeah. And there's this great scene where it chops the top of his head off. It's so fucking spectacular. It's amazing.

It's wonderful. Chef Savini, yet another delicious meal. Thank you so much, Tom Zavini. A friend of mine recently said that they ran into Tom Savini in a local establishment in our neighborhood and was like, oh my God, had never seen him in person before. And was like, I didn't even know what to do. And I was like, he loves to be recognized. He would love for you to tell him that you love his work. It bums him out when you don't, I think.

Nobody? No one's going to come up to me. No one's going to say, aren't you Thomas A. Savini? Whereas I think of either of us were out and someone was like, hey, or you would go, like we did at that game show when people recognized us. You remember? Yeah, I do. I do.

I had not hit Blackout drunk yet when that happened. No, thank God we did later. And Stephen has to hit a dude in the head with a hammer and Fran is a fuck all help to anybody. Yeah, I've written here, help your man. He's your man most of the time. But I guess we understand later why she doesn't get into hand-to-hand. combat. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So they get back in the helicopter and fly away. Someone says maybe we can find fuel closer to Cleveland and someone else says, no, we got to stay in the sticks and then they land at the Monroeville Mall. Okay. At that time, what was Monroeville as built up as it is now? No, certainly not.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they also, like, talk about a mall like it's the newest thing? It's 1978. Yeah. It's like, it's some sort of indoor. shopping center. What? When were malls invented? But then later they're like they're coming here because they, this is where they came. Yeah. Which one is it? Is it new or is it old? It looks old, I have to say. Because there's a brown derby restaurant in there. And they haven't existed since

the 80s. For sure. There's a guy, one of the zombies is wearing a St. Edmund's Academy T-shirt, which made me laugh. Oh, nice. Because I know St. Edmunds Academy. I'm like, I know that. I know what that is. Oh, I forgot to mention. There's a lot. also is, when, after Peter shoots the kids in the office, a zombie is coming for him, like, one of the most iconic zombies, the one with his eye drooping out of his head. And Stephen, who is a piss poor shot, tries shooting him and almost kills Peter. Right. Now he's mad. Peter's mad. So he runs up to him with a gun and says, how does it feel? Yeah. Yeah. Quite bad. It seems not good. Not good at all. So yes, they land in the Monroeville Mall. And they're thinking

it's just going to be a pop in, see what's going on situation. Right. But it isn't. They find all these survival supplies at the mall well labeled under a window. A skylight? You know that in hurricane situations you want to put all yourself on the second floor? We're not in hurricane territory here. But we're in tornado territory, I should have gone with tornado. But back then it wasn't. Right.

That's a new... Although, when did the tornado take out the Evansville Cemetery? I don't know. Because all the trees are gone from that cemetery Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I don't know. Why would they have survival supplies

without a can opener? Who can say? You can say? Also, I quite like spam. I've had spam forever. I forget what it tastes like. Oh, let's get back on that horse someday. I'm sure there's a vegan span out there.

I bet it's not good. So they're going to go check it out. Roger and Peter are going to see what the dilly is. They find these supplies and they're like, we should hang on here for a little. little bit need these supplies. And smoke also, because smoking is so cool. They decide to go shopping.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. One of them says hit and run, and the other one says, hit and run. Like they just agreed to a one-night stand. I love the idea of that being. You want to fuck? I want to fuck. No strings attached.

One-night stand. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. This is where you see the high school football schedule for Gateway. Okay. I was like, oh, North Catholic, Central Catholic on back-to-back weeks.

It's going to be a tough, tough schedule for Gateway. Oh, they're a good team in 78? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't remember the 78 North Catholic Trojans? So we're introduced to two people that I have seen for years at every Harvard convention I ever went to. The escalator zombie and the nurse zombie. Okay. Who just keeps showing up throughout the movie.

They are like the most prevalent zombies, even though they should have been. killed multiple times. They have had a bad run of luck. Yeah. And I think they were a married couple, if I remember correctly. But they were always like there and they're like, do you want to get a signature from the escalator zombie and the nurse zombie? I guess so. How come there are cons and we're not? Because we don't. Could we make money on that? I don't know. I don't know either. Having had to sign something recently, it's a very weird experience for me. Oh my God. You're so fucking famous for your other art. It's just like, stop rubbing it in.

That's not what I'm doing. You are. You're talking to my friend about my life. I'm just kidding. I know. Okay. Do you ever have a job at the mall? No.

Oh. I never worked retail. Always food. Oh, okay. I'm better at food than retail, I would think. I'm better at retail than at food. Okay. I did not like working food.

But then again, I worked at a college and dining hall. So not the best experience. No. But it's really fun to have a job at the mall because you get to go down the back alleyways. Yeah, it looks so cool back there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though when I was a teen, before I worked to the mall,

we used to run through there and get chased by the security guards. Oh, nice. Before they had segways. So we see zombies like languishing in the coy pond. I love the idea that a mall had a coy pond. Yeah. It was like a little bridge. Yeah, it was cute.

It was cute. Somebody bought it. Somebody owns that coi bond. Good for them. Yeah. Who is it? Tom Savini. It's probably his backyard. Where he's fucking setting a flamethrower or is that close to my house.

Stop doing that. Why don't you go and ask it if you can use the flame thrower? You've always wanted to use a flame thrower. I don't know. I don't want to ask him for anything. Well, he thinks that we sent him a request to have our own. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

That's right. The cameo that Perry. got us where he gave us a tour of his house and he seemed really tired. But he was like, Katie and Allen, this was sent by Katie and Allen. No, it wasn't. Katie and Allen asked me to call you. No, we did not. No, we did not, Tom Savini.

So they go into pennies. Yeah, got to go to pennies. Oh, and they're like punching zombies to get the zombies away from the door and the punching noises are fucking hilarious. These zombies are easily overtaken. Yeah. A good punch to the head will knock them right down. A good shove to the chest, I'll knock them right down.

They have no, no, what's the word? Center of gravity. They have no center of gravity. And there's one zombie that gets Peter's machine gun. And that man will hold that machine gun for the rest of the goddamn movie. He sure will. So they're having fun. They're shopping.

They're turning on the ball, music, and the escalators and fountains and all the exhibits, which is very funny. Yeah, yeah. There's a man sitting in the fountain just picking up coins. Yeah. Then I thought, was that what he used to do? I used to come here to Spange. So they have this plan where they are luring the zombies to the first floor of the mall so that they can escape from the second floor of the mall.

Right, because department stores have two floors. Yeah, yeah. So they've left and now Stephen was sleeping when they left. So when he woke up, Fran's like, hey, they've gone. He's like, well, I'm abandoning you. I'm going to go see what they're doing because I want to hang out with the boys. I want to be one of the boys. Because now he, is this where he, have he and Peter made their like man piece yet?

I don't think so. I think it's after he comes down and does this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stephen, yeah, Stephen just finds a gun in a desk drawer. I mean, yeah. This house is littered with guns and desk drawers. Just knives, actually. Machetes.

Hatchets. Probably a switchblade somewhere. Oh, fucking hell. Definitely. butterfly knives. I'm just, I feel lucky that I've not cut my ass open on anything that I've sat on in this house, you know? I'm not an irresponsible knife owner. That would be my partner. She's always opening boxes towards herself and I'm like, a way from yourself, way from yourself, way from yourself, Melissa. So Peter is like fucking around in this office and he doesn't notice

that there's the spryest zombie in the movie who's also like, I'm going to play hide and seek with this guy, like, hunting him. in the bowels of this mall. They're just, they're having the time of their lives. And then Peter, or sorry, Stephen, who's a fucking moron, starts firing the gun that he found in a room full of steam. Yeah, in the boiler room, I guess. He shoots like a little kid playing laser tag.

Like he kind of like has a handgun that he keeps like thrusting towards the person as he shoots at them. Yeah, you got to throw the bullets out of it. You got to throw the bullets. But he shoots this boiler guy in the head. Yeah. after we get a lot of pion, ping, pion. Don't do that, Stephen.

The Harry Krishna is a weird look. I feel like that was just a little dig at the Krishna's. I think so, yeah. But the way Fly Boy kills this zombie, Stephen, he drops all his bullets because he's a buffoon and then puts one bullet into the gun and plays basically rush her and roulette

with this zombie. Yes. And why? Because he's an idiot. Okay, okay. He's a dumb dumb. So Peter and Roger make their getaway. Um,

oh, no, they all, they all me back up. And then they have to do their, like, they have to, they were being followed by zombies

so they have to get them to go in a different direction away from where they're hanging out. Right. Um, but there's one zombie that doesn't. And that's your Krishna zombie. Oh,

Okay, okay. I was thinking, okay, because there's also this zombie that's sort of like tricksy and quick who jumps out from in between the mannequins and grabs, I think, Roger. Yeah. I thought, where did you come from? The rest of them are just shambling. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. He got Roger's a track jacket. Yeah, he had just taken that track jacket and tied it around his waist. I felt sad. He was hanging onto his new shirt. I was like, you can take it off after you put the, oh, no, it's the other zombie that he puts the screwdriver in the era. Or is that that zombie? No, it's this one. Yeah, yeah. Maybe the track jacket got blood on it.

Um, they run by a piercing pagoda. Uh-huh. That's where I got my ears pierced. Not that one. Ross Park Mall again. Uh-huh. No, Northway Mall. Yeah.

Missy was like, I might have gotten my ears pierced there. Oh, yeah. At that piercing. At the one in Monroevo? Yeah. Nice. Um, so the Krishna zombie is now making its way upstairs.

And Fran's like standing on the stairs with a gun. She's not going to use it. No. She's not. And he's got a tambourine on his waist. Yeah. But it's okay because she has a flare. She does have a flare.

Yeah. And apparently these zombies are scared of flares. Yeah. Are zombies afraid of fire canonically? I guess so. Okay. Yeah. Although they get lit on fire and walk around all the time.

All the time. Dumbies. Like then that in burial ground where that one zombie got lit on fire. You know, barrel ground later on a boy will bite his mom on the titty. Oh, yeah. I wish you all could have seen Katie's face. Oh.

There was a point in time where if I had... What's the matter? I'm your son. If I had showed you that movie, we would have had to have a talk. I think we would. I probably would have been like, you know what? I've had a great time. But I'm moving on to other things in my life.

But I have Stockholm syndromed you into being like, you know, that wasn't that bad. It's high points. Actually, that was where our Italian, my Italian streak ended. I was like, I am done. The boys come into the room. They kill the Krishna zombie. Fran and Stephen are hugging. They love hugging.

Constant hugging. Love to hug. He has to comfort her. Fine. Listen. Question. If you hadn't eaten in a little while, you're pretty hungry.

Yeah. You go for caviar and crackers? No. No. No. I'm going for the spam. Spam. Spam.

And those giant wheels of cheese. Oh, I do love it. that giant wheel cheese they pick up. Yeah. They also get a bottle of jack. Sure. They're passing around to it. Only the men. Right. I should say she's not drinking because of what we find out later. But that's not true.

Because later she is. Yeah. She's smoking like a fucking chimney. Well, back in the 70s cigarettes were good for you and your baby. Sure. It didn't hurt me. No. I also would like to show you my new favorite meme. I'm just going to text it to you really quickly.

I think it's relevant to your interests in this current moment. I want you to describe it. Okay. I got an image from my... It's a picture of a very healthy-looking man named Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Holding a microphone. And it says, does your baby cry all the time? That's just because it craves a smooth, refreshing pull of a marble red.

It's a many new favorite meme. Anyway, that's what this baby's going to do. So they find out that Fran's pregnant and in a very sensitive and enlightened scene, three men have a discussion about what they should do with the baby. You want to get rid of it? You want to abort? It's not too late. And I know how.

Yeah. Bro. Missy was not watching the movie. She was like sitting on the couch, but she was doing something else. Yeah. And she was like, oh, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool that he knows how to do that. And I'm like, Missy, no one is consulting the pregnant.

woman and she's like oh that's not good and that's not that's not it that's not how it goes like in is knowing how to do it mean just shoving her down the stairs and if so would stephen have just let them do that uh yes stephen would have let them do that yeah 100 and no i have a feeling that like in the fiction of this world like peter has been like yeah i mean when before roe v wade like brewing penny royalty yeah so uh she wants to go to to Canada. The plan was to go to Canada. Stephen doesn't want to leave his new friends because he just made these friends, see? And the new friends are like,

why don't we just live here? It's perfect. And she says to her, you were the one who wanted to set up a house because he's a fucking jagoff. There are so many points in this movie where I would have left his ass and gotten eaten by a fucking zombie. I would have left him for Ken Foray in front of him. Yeah. Yeah.

Now you have to watch us. I would just be like that sportsman, pointed to Ken Foray and walked up the steps. Larry Fitzgerald. that's sportsman. I really love a zombie in this scene who is outside the mall just pressing his belly on the glass. Rules. Maybe it's on the window of pennies, I'm not sure, but.

So they're going to, they've got this plan. But where they can go execute the plan, Fran is like, okay, we can do this shit that you guys want to do. But here's what I need. I'm not going to be your fucking mom. I'm not going to be your dead mother. Yeah. And Steven's like, fine. Yeah, they're like, we're going out and you can't come because you're a girl.

And she says she wants to learn how to fly the helicopter because if something happens to him, someone needs to be able to fly it. And Ken Forre is like, she's right, man, even though she's a girl. And then you're right, he gets really mad at her because she embarrassed him in front of the boys. Because she wants basic human rights. It sucks. I want to kick Stephen in the teeth. Why would you let this man put a baby in you?

Why would you raw dog Stephen? Maybe you got that good dick game. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. It doesn't seem like it. You don't want that man fathering your child? No.

Not in the apocalypse at any rate. And any, no, in the best of times. Now they have semi-trucks. I was confused by what their plan was here. They're going to park the semis in front of the doors, but not directly in front of the doors, a little bit away from the doors. Yeah, it doesn't do anything, does it? I think it's just, I think, I think,

they can't open the doors. Okay. Is this, this the theory? Okay. You know how many entrances malls have? A million and five. And they're having a blast with this.

They're just like, we're lads, you know? But during this blast, Roger starts going a little wonky. He's having a bit too much fun, I think, maybe.

And Ken Flore is like, honey, calm down. Yeah, you need to chill. Yeah. Don't wipe the zombie blood in your eyes, Roger.

Oh, man. When he gets to the, Because Ken Ford is going to shoot a zombie, and he shoots it right over Roger, and the blood goes all in Roger's mouth. Yeah. Yeah. That'll do it, won't it? Yeah.

It depends on the movie. It depends on the movie. Yeah. Do men call their best work friends baby? Yeah, of course. All the time. All the time. Just wonder.

Me, who walks in a, works in an office of almost entirely women? Of course I do. He's walking in like, baby. What's up, baby? Cheryl, baby. You eat a cup of coffee. Hey, baby. You get those reports done, baby.

Give you them documents, baby! Baby! Show me how to make a pivot table. Now I'm wearing noise-cancel of earboards and just sticking to myself. No, you should start calling them all babies. See how long your job lasts. All right. Roger gets bit.

He gets bit. And you should probably kill Roger at this point, but they don't. Yeah, and then he gets bit again. Yeah. He gets bit twice. Two bites. Which, I guess two bites is three days gestation period. It does seem that way.

And then, like, 27 bytes is like 10 second gestation period. That makes sense, sure. So, but Peter is like, oh, motherfucker, you're going to fucking die. I've seen so many people have this happen to. He's saying this to other people in front of Roger, which I actually like. He's like, oh, I haven't seen anybody last more than three days. And Roger's like, what? Guys, I'm right here.

It's like, I'm a woman. They're pushing him around in the wagon, which I like to you. Remember cars in the mall? Yeah. Yeah, it's wild. How did I get there? Drive them in. Oh, wow.

That's why they have them big doors. I want to drive a car in the mall. Or ride motorcycles in them. Just wait. Just wait. At that point in the movie, I was like, we got to wrap this up. So they decided to go shopping.

And the first place they're going to hit, the gun store that's in the mall. Every sporting good store, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially in Western PA. Oh, why is the gun store racist, though? Did you hear the part where I said Western PA? Oh, you did.

That's it. It's got like, African shields on the wall, and then it's playing the most like stereotypical 1930s where white men going into darkest Africa music. Yeah. What the fuck is this? Maybe George Romero wasn't such a great guy. Or he thought hunters were fucking racist.

Or that. Or that. I'm always going to give a GR the benefit of the doubt. Fair enough. I'm always bummed out when I see Romero, Romero. modeling company driving around in their trucks and there's like a hand holding a house. Yeah. And it's not a zombie hand.

I'm like missed opportunity. I wonder if that's a relation of his. I see them everywhere. It's got to be. It's a pretty common name. Yeah. Yeah, pretty common family. That's not a thing that means anything.

I don't know. I was like, okay, got a got a yes and to this. But my brain was like, shut that fucking idiot up. I like the zombie that comes by and grabs. Roger's leg and just grips his wound. That was really... Fumming it. Why is he...

Why is that zombie so petty? And this one's for your mom. Yeah. So, yeah, they're going to get in the car to clear the zombies. They're going to drive around because just pushing Roger in a car, it's not enough. They got to get in a car and throw him in the back of it. Right. And then we get like jaunty locking doors music as they're running around locking doors.

This is the one where I thought it sounded like double dragon. Sure. I'm sure. Yeah. And they're setting door alarms and that will somehow never come back up in the movie. No, you never hear the alarms, do you? We don't. We don't.

They're back at the base and she's injecting him with something. Morphine. Morphine. Morphine. Morphine. I would be taking all of that morphine all of the time. Just uncap that bottle. Just uncap it.

I'm just going to be placing it on my tongue. Yeah. I'm going out like an Eggeryll and Poe. I'll see you later. See you. I hadn't seen the morphine until like the next scene. Yeah. But I was hoping she was just injecting him with Jack Daniels.

He's not Mickey Six. You don't know that. He's a zombie. But she's puking. And she's like, please, I don't want you to see me like this. Lady, if he can put a baby in you, he can watch you hork. Don't let someone put a baby in you if you won't let them see you puke. That is excellent life advice.

Because it's only going to get worse. Wait until you find out how that baby. comes out. Stork. Stork. That's a big messy bird. That's a big fucking messy bird. That bird poops sometimes

will drop the broken the baby off. That's right. It must be the bird. Must have been the bird who shit here on the floor. That's a stork. Stork did it. God, I wish I'd made that joke. I'm so fucking disappointed.

You need your partner to have a stork hand puppet? And just like pops his head up and goes, Mim, meow! No. Oh, yeah, you should have bits during the birth.

I am really pissed that I didn't write bits for the birth. From what I've heard of it, you were in no state to deliver bits. No, I guess not. She's vomiting,

and he grabs her by the puke mouth to make her look at him. Don't touch her pukes. She's puking. Treat her with some respect. She's carrying your dipshit baby. counterpoint from this movie. She is a woman.

Oh, true. Well, at least she doesn't have to participate in the picking up of zombies corpses montage. So why did they put the zombies in the locker with all the fresh tomatoes and meat? I don't know. To keep them from rotting, I guess. They'll rot, won't they? Yeah, but they're so, like, I'm not going to want a tomato that's next to Bob. We're wearing his Arco Pitcaren shirt.

Shit Karen. Shit Karen, that's right. that's right though oh man so they go into the bank and they take a bunch of money because they never know if they're gonna need it there's a really funny shot of them

posing for the security camera and then you see the black and white still shot of it and it's really fucking funny it's great uh Ken Forre is wearing a very jaunty tank top at this point looks great for a lot of the movie like he's wearing dress clothes

despite just lounging around them all so I wanted to ask you this another question another question post-Boclips. Let's say we do survive. I know. Do we have to? You're in the mall. I'm in the mall. Let's say malls are still living. Okay. I'm in the mall. Live within the fiction here. Okay. Are you a fur coats and diamonds, girl? No, you're like all utility all the time. I'm going to the foot locker and I'm getting a very large pair of sweatpants.

They sell sweatpants and foot-locker. Fuck yeah. They sell sweatpants. They probably still sell tear-away pants. Oh, hell yeah. I'm getting tear-away pants and just, like every time I come up behind you, ripping them off, but to reveal a second pair of tearaway pants below. Oh yeah, I knew it wasn't naughty. No, no, no, it's not naughty at all. I, yeah, I'm wearing the most comfortable clothing.

Yeah, okay, all right, all right. I've never wanted a fur coat or diamonds, but I always want sweatpants. These are things I knew about you. These are a few of my favorite things. So we get a shopping montage. We get Fran out in the ice rink in the Monroeville Mall. One should absolutely dot ice skate while pregnant. I am not a pregnant.

pregnant pearl clutcher, have yourself a little drink here and there, eat yourself a turkey sub. Have sushi. I don't care. I don't care. Don't fucking ice skate, man. Prevent falling down. There's nothing that could happen. So dumb. And Peter's just on the side going, yeah. Like the sicko meme? He's like, yes, it's sicker meme. He has a 10 foot pole and he's like, I told you I knew how to do this and just pokes her with it. Dude, sorry to diverge again. Did you see that video of from the No Kings March in Denver where there was like the dickheads from New York that were like calling people like F slurs?

Yes. And then someone just like, you winked a guy's glasses and the guy takes off running and someone else is like, okay, foot out. He goes, head into the ground. Yes. I saw a spirit Halloween costume Photoshop that was, um, fallen boomer. It was just his ass up. It was his ass up face.

I saw someone took his ass up and turned it into the, um, the MLB logo, but it said MAGA underneath it. Oh, great. Yeah, it was very funny. What a dickhead. Yeah, but don't fall down. Yeah, don't. If you're pregnant, don't fall down.

If you're a dickhead, face first. Yeah. Perfect. Uh, here's where we get the line when there's no more room in hell. The dead will walk the earth. Yeah. Because Peter's grandfather was a voodoo man. He says to Stephen.

Do you know macumba voodoo? My grandfather was a priest in Trinidad. Like, look at fucking Stephen. Do you think he knows macumba voodoo? No. This is where we see the morophene. Yes, this is where we see it's morphine. I always put an extra fucking vowel in morphine.

I always say morophine. Morphine. Morphine. Chlorophyll. I always also realized today that I don't say potatoes. I say potatoes. Potatoes, yeah. Yeah, because you've spent a lot of time in Western PA.

Potatoes. He's like, why am I saying potatoes? Potato chips. Potato chips. Potato chips. I don't think that's that uncong. I don't think that's weird. Potato chips.

I just noticed that like, I say potatoes different than I used to say potatoes. You say potato. I say potato. No, apparently I say potato too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, he's getting dose with moreofine. He's talking like me when I'm drunk where he's like, I'm going to, listen, I love you.

And I'm going to, I'm going to. I'm gonna... He... So we're to assume that the zombieism is affecting his, like, cognitive abilities because he spends a lot of time just, like, staring off into space. Well, I think he's on a lot of morphine, too.

Sure. Yeah, that'll do her. That's what I want, is to be on a lot of morphine so I can stare into space. And he asks, he's like, Peter, don't let me come back. Yeah. And it's a very, like, loving scene

because he's actually, he's in Peter's arms at this point. Peter has his arm around him and it's holding him. He's holding him like a baby. And it's very sweet. I was like, I would love to see the two of these guys just fucking go at it. You just don't want to see them real each other. I was also very excited to see pull-tab beers.

I haven't thought about pull-tab beers in a long time. Never had a pool-tab beer. No, I never have either, but I remember stepping on pole-taps as a kid. Yeah, rad. Like going fishing with my dad and having to watch out for pole-tabs. We keep getting these men on TV, I patch and mustache. I patch at least was in return or in Night of Living Dead. Okay.

And like explaining what's going on with the zombies. Okay. Yeah. I don't remember him. Yeah. There's no reason you shit. No. He has an idea to just drop nuclear bombs on all the big cities.

Yeah. I love a rationalist. He made everybody move to the city center, my dude. Yes. It's just. Turns out he's part of the Illuminati trying to get the populace back down to 500,000 people. Oh, is that their goal? That's one of them, supposedly.

Yeah. Which 500, though? I don't know. Okay. I was looking at you, waiting for a response that I figured you would know. I made a, you know, face, but I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, Roger looks bad.

He does look bad. And then Peter just gets to sit and watch his friend die. Yeah. And then they bury him in the plant garden on the first floor. Well, this is after Peter, Roger comes back and he's an old man and then he gets shot. He's a very old man when he comes back. If they bury him into like little, what is there, the floors shop? It's just, I think it's like one of those just displays of indoor plants, you know?

It's just decorative. Because it looks like what they're burying him under is not actually dirt, but like, you know, fake sod. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then we get some target practice on the ice rink with mannequins. She also, what's her face? Fran. Fran is sitting on a bench outside of a store, a maternity store called Anticipation. And I was like, this is so bleak.

So you got yourself here. What's next? What's next? So now this gets into the real existential dread. Yeah. They have like a dinner where Peter is serving them, which felt a little bit racist. A little bit, but it was also like, That's a really sweet thing to do for this couple that you're stuck with.

Like, I'm going to make you a dinner and then I'm going to go hang up by myself. Oh, and I go hang out with my dead friend and drink whiskey. Yeah. Or beseco or something. And she's drinking her wine because she might as well. Yeah. And he pulls out two rings and she's like, we can't get married now, but like maybe we will. What are you talking about?

Well, it won't be real if we get married now. What are you talking about? Maybe she's holding on hope for someone better, like Ken Foray. Also, the idea of having to deliver your baby alone and the Monroeville Mall is a horror show. Come right down to the Brown Derby. They've delivered a lot of babies down there. That's probably true.

Probably true. But then we get this great like lingering shot of the two of them in bed, maybe post-coitus. Yes. And they're both miserable. Yeah. Well, she takes a photo of her and she says, oh, when you're done with a roll, we'll just drop it off at the drugstore.

And I was like, first of all, there's probably a Kodak store in that mall. You can probably develop it there. Just you can learn. You've got nothing else to do. But yes, then it cuts to them just having this existential dread in their bed. The tiniest French film in the middle of our daughter of the dead movie. Very weird. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So now she's very pregnant. And drinking a lot of wine. Yeah. Baby needs blood. And as far as I know, that's where wine makes blood. Wait, what did we see recently where it's like you have to get oxygen to your baby by doing like sit-ups? What was that?

I don't know. I was one of those Italian movies. And you were real mad at that. Oh, I think it was. It was demons too. Yes, it was demons too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was doing, like, weird, like, open crotch stretching.

You don't do that to your baby. I get so mad about things. I get so mad about men writing pregnancies. Why don't you just ask your mom? Ew. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. What would you spend your time doing if we were stuck in the mall for months?

Racquetball. Uh-huh. Making a nice little living space for myself. Yeah. Oh, dying. Probably spending my time dying. Yeah. I guess we're all just spending our time dying, aren't we?

Oh, man, I was listening to Towns Van Zant today. You can't do this to me. Oh, ring the existential dread titty bell. I was listening to the song Waiting Around to Die and I was just like, oh, man. Are we all waiting around to die? Yeah, thanks, Towns Van Zan. Well, he guesses it's better than waiting around to die until he finds Kodine, and then he decides the two of them are going to wait around to die.

Him and Kodine. Fucking hell. Bleak. So, yeah, Peter is playing racquetball or tennis or something against a wall to keep himself in shape. And it's working. There's a voice that comes on over the... Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

She's like, if you buy your stuff within the next half hour... Half hour. I lost it. That's what I was like, oh, there's now just like a snuggy of pitch. Pittsburghness around Katie right now. Yeah, feels like home. Home. It's like when I hear somebody say, get home. Get home. I'm like, oh, my God. A little Delaware, what's going on? Oh, man. So now there's been no broadcast for three days. The TV has been off for three days and Stephen can't let it go because he's a little bitch baby. A little bitch baby. Yeah. And they have this great married couple at the, uh, at the nadir of their relationship where she shuts the TV often and he stops eating, gets up, turns a TV.

TV back on and Ken Foray is like pulling on his collar like whoa but now they are the zombies they're just shuffling around yeah but they're also they're now like filling the helicopter with supplies right and he's teaching her how to fly it

I never want to fly a helicopter no maybe in that situation maybe in that situation although bikes is probably the best way to go yeah because you're silent a bicycle Oh, I don't know how to ride a bicycle. I know.

I also don't know how to fly a helicopter. So I guess that you know of. I'm just riding a skateboard. Kachung, Kachung. Kachung. So then who is waiting outside the mall staring at them? Someone's got binoculars on them.

It's Tom Savini. Tom Savini looks badass in this movie. He looks so young. So young. So handsome. His hair is so chic. He's got so much of it. Yeah.

Yeah. Tom Savini. Got a little earring in his ear, too. He still has that. Of course he knows. Once a Tom Savini, always a Tom Savini. Are you looking up to see how old Tom Savini was in this? I am.

I think it's not long after he got out of Vietnam, so he's probably not that old. No. Tom Savini was born in 1946, which would have made him 32 in this. Yeah. Yeah. What a baby. A little baby. So he still looks kind of old, though.

Yeah, but everybody did back then. Yeah. everyone smoked all the goddamn time. It's just so cool, though. Yeah, but you will get leathery at some point. He's with a friend. I don't know his friend. But the friend keeps saying,

we seen the helicopter on the roof. We've seen it. He seems, the friend seems to be the leader of the gang. Yeah. Because he's the one who's later wearing the SS helmet and giving them a call on the telephone. Yes.

But that was like a big biker thing to wear swastikas and all that stuff. Oh, it also would be wildly racist. It should be wildly racist. Okay. I mean, and a lot of these men are also dressed as Tommy Chong. I just want to point that out. But a lot of these men are just their normal everyday goddamn selves.

Oh, yeah. So the gang calls in on the radio and he's like, hey, we don't like people that share, you fucked up, we're coming for you, or that don't share, we're coming for you. And they're going to mess them up. They storm the mall. Yeah, and they come down that one drive that leads right to guitar center. now. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh, you're right. Yeah. That back then was an A&P market. And I was like, whoa, look at that. Tire center. Um, yeah, but they're coming down. And it's a great shot of like

their headlights at night coming down this like kind of windy road. It's rad. Yeah. Um, and they come in and start hitting zombies in the face with pies and spring seltzer bottles at them. Like all of a sudden it's an episode of like Bozo the clown. Listen, these bikers love the three stooges. They love those of the clown. and they just love having fun, but they're killing Tom. This is where I was like, what happened between that movie and the first movie and this that, like, George Romero was like, we need to make it a comedy. Tom Savini.

Yeah. Tom Savini's got a machete. I like this for him. He's got a machete like strapped on his calf muscle. Like, it's very weird. How? Somebody throws a TV into a TV. That's very funny way.

What are you going to watch on that TV? Yeah, you're right. And throws the TV into a larger TV. And then smash the TV with a hammer. I was like, I love this movie. Oh, God. So they're riding bikes or riding motorcycles around the mall. And I was like, how did the mall let them do this?

Yeah, I mean, how long was the mall closed for for this? I think they could only do it early in the morning or late at night. Oh, really? They had to do it when the mall, like the mall was still operational. I mean, I guess they let them drive cars into the mall. Why can't they drive motorcycles? Yeah. But also, back to the pies.

How long were those fucking pies sitting around? and obviously there was no fat kids in the mall because we would have at least tried the pies. Oh, of course. What a strange thing to think of. Katie, I'm a fat kid. So the zombies are hungry. They're hungry.

They get the Nazi guy. They eat the Nazi guy. They pull up in his tum-tom and all his hot dogs are on the outside of his Nazi coat. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, you will later perfect this, Tom Savini, in day. the dead when that guy gets his like hot dogs ripped out and it looks fucking fantastic he you can see the progression of his hot dogs on the outside great work tom great work great work when i see him next

i'm just going to go great work hot dogs on the outside great work good job on the hot dogs on the outside exactly what you're talking about you think he will yeah of course he will would he would he okay we'll see so while all this is going on fly boy decides that it's there mall and he has to shoot the guys, even though Ken Forres are like, shut the fuck up, they'll leave. Yeah, they have no, if we just stay here, they will go. And he's like, I'm one of the boys

now. Rogers did, so I'm a big boy. I'm your best friend, Ken Forre. He's like, I don't know, I kind of like Fran. Even though she's a girl. We get the really racist thing that Tom Savini says. And Flyboy gets stuck in an element.

after he's being chased by the gang members. I wish they were just like 1920s gangsters. Gangsters, yeah. Hey, come out, see. Because the power goes off and he's stuck in the elevator. And then he climbs out the top of the elevator. But not all the way. Not all the way.

He gets eaten. Yeah. Now he's a zombie. He's a zombie. I don't care. He also got old when he turned into a zombie. Yeah, I think that's the blue thing. Yeah.

They get gray first. Ken Foray kills Tom Savini. Yeah, and he tells Fran to go, because he doesn't want to go. Yeah. He's sad. He's done with it. But then he isn't because she gets in the chopper and then he comes out and just gets in with her.

It's like, I thought you were sacrificing yourself for her escape. He's going to shoot himself with a gun that I only associate with madams and Westerns putting in their garter belts. Yes. Like a little 22. Very much a lady's handbag gun. And I was like, there's a pretty good chance. That gun is just going to be like, ptank and fall off your head and not actually go through. Go right through your like optical nerve.

you're fine except blind but no he's not done with it one last fight and then into the chopper yeah yeah he's got to fight some zombies escalator zombie has now become ladder zombie yes yes

but he gets out there he hops on the helicopter he gets in the helicopter and they fly away he says how much fuel do we have and she says not much and he says all right yeah that's the movie that is Dawn of the Dead,

177, 78. Katie. Alan. You got a rating for this one? Yeah, but I'm going to give mine after you give yours. I love this movie. I didn't see this movie until

God, I was probably in my late 20s when I saw this. Okay. I don't know how, it just, I don't know. Slythea. But I absolutely love it. My friend Todd showed it to me and I adore him and this movie. Todd's cool.

As I said, I own this. the box set, I own multiple LPs of the soundtrack. Like, I think it's just a great package. There is that, you do feel that like Argento hand is in it a little bit. With the massagenet, specifically,

I would say, and the bad music. I was wondering, uh, Georgia Romero, you think about pushing a woman's face to the glass? But Dario, she's pregnant. And she's got to survive at the end. But when she's survived, you push the face glass, right?

With the glass. Why are we making the movie if she not operates of the grass? You're married to her and or she's her daughter. He put her in compromising situations. Ah, George, your future ex-wife. So nice to meet you. I'm going to give this movie a 10. Oh, 10.

Yeah, it's long as hell. And if you're not in the mood for it, it is a slog fest. Sure. When it hits, it hits. Okay, I haven't seen this movie in a long time. Yeah. I was not prepared for the existential dread. I think I didn't catch it having seen this.

like I said, this movie just for whatever reason doesn't stick in my brain. Sure. But I've definitely seen it. And I had definitely seen it not that long ago, but the existential dread was totally lost on me. Yeah. I didn't need that right now, but that's okay. No, just some shit. But it's a fantastic movie way too fucking long.

Yeah. But so Yenzy. So Yenzy. So Yenzy. Yeah. So what we need to do, the movie, Flesh Heater, which is the first zombie from Night of the Living Dead is still around and killing people. And it's shot in like the North Hills.

That's my hills. Yeah, it's the most like yinzy shit that's ever happened. Why have we not done that yet? I don't know how available it is. Okay. Have you heard of a movie called Flesh Eating Faroes of Pittsburgh? Yes. Apparently they just showed it at the row house. Oh. But they had to like cobble

together clips and like VHS tapes because there's no good versions of it out there. But apparently it was fantastic. Yeah. Taking place in Pittsburgh's a little Egypt. I like that. a lot. I do too. I really enjoyed this.

I'm going to give it a nine. Nine. I love it. Yeah. Katie. Alan. Quickly. What?

Can we get to a little mailbag action? I would love that. All right. Katie, we received some mail from bookshop. Dot org. Bookshop.org. Got and org. What could that be?

God, I hope it's a porno. What could it be? What could it be? Eh. Hold on. I'm opening. Uh-oh. Oh, Katie.

Get stoked. I'm stoked. What is it? Well, you're about to find out. This is a copy of a Spinal Tap book. Ah, yes, a fine line. By Rob Reiner with Christopher Guest, Michael McKean, and Harry Shearer. And there's also Vagabond by Tim Curry.

Oh, my God. I hear that's great, actually. Both in hardcover. Who sent this to us? Is there a note? There's no note. Oh, my God. If you sent this to us, reach out.

But there's a second package. from workshop.org or bookshop.org. Smell the book. On the back, it's called smell the book. Oh, it's another hardcover book. Wait, wait, this book, it flips. Yeah. Did you, have you heard, did you know this?

No, but there's a second copy of Smell the Book. Great. Oh my gosh, is there a note in this package? No. Whoever sent these to us. Please get in touch. Please get in touch. That's amazing.

I'd like that we can both have our own copy but we share Tim Curry's back a bomb. You can read it first. I got a big stack right now. Yeah, so do I. Thank you. Oh, I wish I know who sent this to us. Thank you so much.

This was really kind of whomst ever did this. How thoughtful, just knowing the things that we like. Yeah, that's because they've been listening to us for 11 years and or listen to all 11 years in like three weeks at 5.5 speed. So fucking maniacal. Oh, you guys don't sound like chip monks. Like, I remember you something. We are in our 12th year.

Oh, we in our 12th? Oh, wow. Look at that. Year 12. Well, we're going in like sixth grade at 12? Or if we started in first grade, we're graduating from fucking high school. Oh, my God. Let's have a graduation party for our podcast.

12 years. We're 18 for that. So far away. Six years. So far away. I just had this feeling. I don't know. know if I can make it another six.

You stop it now. Come with it now. Speaking of making it another week. Will you want to do another movie next week? I do want to do another movie next week. What do you want to do another movie next week? I want to, I'm going to give this little zombie train going.

I feel like zombies are out of the media enough that I'm like back on the zombie tip. You don't like see like zombie outbreak vehicles, bumper stickers driving around anymore? I mean, I live in Pittsburgh. I see that. I see it everywhere. But they're ours. See, we invented it.

It's either that or the, uh, the like, PT cruiser, Ecto 1 that I see driving around. Let's do The Night of the Living Dead. Not the original. No, the Tom Savini Revenue. The Tom Savini version, 1990. Now, this has a scene in it that fucked me up as a kid. Ooh, I'm excited to find out what that is.

There's a lot of really gruesome stuff in this and a lot of really cool stuff. And, like, this is like peak Savini special effects because he got to go ham on that shit. Yeah, this was his whole thing. the whole project was him, right? I think Romero was still on set, like, helping him through the stuff. They were lads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's bros.

Tight bros. Tight bros. Always get a tight bro. Uh, that is, my tight bro. We're tight bro. We're tight bros. Yeah, if you made a movie, I'd be there.

Oh, if you made a movie, I'd be there. I'd be telling you what to do. And you'd be like, I don't really want to do that. And I'd be like, well, well. And then I'd be like, fine, I'd do it. Fine, Katie, fine. Great. It's on Shutter.

It's on other streaming platforms as well. Yep. If you need our shutter Logan, log in, just get in touch. Yeah, text me. I'll send it to you. Saved in my phone. And

Patreon, Tea Public. We were recording a couple days before Halloween, but Halloween will be passed by the time. I hope you had a great spooky season. Yeah,

I hope you ate a lot of candy, but not so much you got sick. Yeah, and I'm really excited to head into Thanksgiving season. It's my favorite time of the year. I just love getting together with family.

What the fuck are you talking? about. I was trying to see how long I could go with that. Oh, man, not very long as it turned out. Thanks for listening to another episode of Wearwell Fabio. Bye. Bye.