Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Re-Release- Murder Party with Justin Cimba
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Hi guys, it's Katie here dropping in to let you know why there's no new episode
this week. We just lost an important member of the
Werewolf Ambience family and our lives in Justin Simba who was the guest on
the episode that we're re-releasing today and honestly I just wasn't up for
making jokes this week. You know Al and I have been pretty open about our
challenges with mental health over
the last 10 years of doing the show.
And that has led a lot of you to be open with us about your own.
I love that.
I'm glad people have felt so comfortable sharing those things with us.
So in that spirit, I want to say that if you are struggling, please reach out to someone.
If you feel like you can't talk to anyone in your life,
please, please call or text the suicide and crisis lifeline
in the USA and Canada, it's 988.
In the UK, it's 111 option two.
In Australia, it's 131114.
And pretty much every country has some version of this.
There's always another way. There's
always more out there for you. That being said, I'm just trying to hold on to good
memories of my friend and talking about horror movies is definitely one of them. So I hope
you enjoy the episode and we'll be back next week with Lisa Frankenstein. In the meantime,
take care of yourselves and each other and tell your friends you love them.
Hello, welcome to another episode of Werewolf Ambulance. I'm Katie and I'm here with my friend Alan.
Hello, Katie.
Hi, Alan. And we're here with our friend Simba.
Simba! Hello.
How are you? I'm okay.
Good. All the way from Nolens? Is that how we say
it? Nolens? Nobody says it like that.
Oh no. Really?
No. Would you guarantee that no one says it like
that? I'll see myself out. Yeah, you do that.
What is the thing with the pecans?
Pecan?
No, you guys.
You know, it's a sugary treat.
Oh, you're talking about pralines?
Pralines.
You can have some pralines.
You like this joke that I had to set up by not knowing what it was?
I do. Those were my favorites.
But that thing that did the thing, here's my joke, it's good.
Also those taste like trash.
Really?
Yeah, it's literally like the most sugar that you can probably fit and still call it caramel.
I've had a couple that have been good, but most of them are just like, yeah, just sugar,
sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar.
I love sugar, sugar, sugar though.
You may enjoy these.
I'm the fly. They're like the flat dark cousin to candy corn with nuts in it. Yeah
notes
You're watching a lot of great British baking show
Nuts and chewing like Mary Berry only on the right side here
So tell us about what you brought and why. Yeah, what did you bring?
Sure. So I brought the 2007 film Murder Party, which was put out by the very small
film production company called Lab of Madness out of like the New York, New Jersey area.
So this is basically their first full length film that they ever put out prior to this.
The only thing that they put out was a short called Crab Walk back in 2004.
But basically the premise of the movie is a guy's walking home from work.
He's pretty much one of the typical like loser-ish type guys.
And he comes across an invitation for a murder party. What?
I really identified with this dude. So I think it's funny that you just called him a loser.
We are all cat people. Every one of us is a cat people.
Oh yeah.
Sir Lancelot.
Did you see that his real name is Puff Snootie?
Yes I did.
He's third billing in this movie.
He is.
Also Hellhammer has a billing in it too.
Yeah.
What was his real name?
Samson's Solenier?
Solenier? It's the director's dog
Director of blue ruin and green room
Yeah with Patrick Stewart as a neo-nazi
Yeah, also making from this film who plays the wolf is in that movie as well
He's in blue blue ruin as well that starts out no green with Delaware green room not blue run. Yeah, he's in both
Oh, is he in both? Yeah, he's the star of blue ruin. Oh, no shit. Yeah. All right. I missed that credit
I guess back to the premise. So
Yeah, this guy's walking home comes across an invitation blown down the street. All it basically says is murder party tonight
Has you dress come alone.
Did it say murder party?
Oh jeez.
I thought it said Halloween party.
No, it said murder party.
Oh jeez.
It was not false advertising.
No.
Yeah.
Rents some really bad movies, goes home and decides to go to this party in which he makes
a costume out of string, cardboard cardboard box duct tape and those little like
push things that you use to make stuff move.
Can I pause right here? The box that he makes the armor out of he pulls a beautiful giant
like like like troll mask out of it's like I don't want this not today that makes beautiful
shitty armor out of cardboard.
Can I also pause right here and say that when he puts the DVD in and he is holding the bowl
of candy and he wants to sit on his couch and just watch the movie with his cat, I was
like, oh, I want to do that.
We were just talking, my partner's going away for the weekend this weekend and I was like
talking about my weekend plans and I'm like, I mean, they're going to binge watch all of
Luke Cage or just watch horror movies the entire weekend. Like this guy's life right now, bowl of candy corn,
which is probably a little bit too much candy corn.
He does have a two bags, two bags.
And then shitty horror movies all weekend long. Like yeah, man.
And a cat.
It was pretty great. All right. And back in.
Okay. So he ends up making the costume out of the cardboard and going to this party,
which is an adventure in and of itself. And after he arrives, he ends up coming across
this crew of dressed up basically, I don't even know how to describe it, like hipster
art douche bags.
Nail on the head.
I'll use the term dildos because that pops up a bunch in this movie.
They say it so much more than I do.
So excited for you.
Yeah.
I just kept being like.
They actually, they touch on it in the commentary.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Oh shit, there's commentary to this movie.
I would love to see the commentary.
Oh, dude, the like special features on this DVD are fantastic.
That's awesome.
I just bought it on Amazon because I, spoiler spoiler alert love this movie so much. Oh nice. Yeah then from there Paul who is dressed as the 19th century vampire kind
of distracts Chris who is our known as the brown knight. Definitely didn't know that he had a name.
Oh yeah it's because they say his full name when he pulls out his ID. Oh okay. That's Holly.
But he distracts him, make in, tries to sneak up behind him and kill him with an axe.
The axe gets caught on a light switch, like one of the hanging light switches, which casts a silhouette.
And then from there begins what is supposedly going to be the murder party.
Oh, God, they're so inept. They're so terrible at doing the murders.
Yeah, like most of the deaths up until I think when Zyko starts shooting people.
And even then like the one like Zyko shooting Paul is probably the only deliberate death
throughout the whole thing.
Yeah, until Bill goes nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Bill killing Alex or Alexander.
Yeah.
Spoiler alert guys.
Oh yeah.
By the way.
By the way.
I totally forget to say that at the beginning.
I think they have to know by now.
I hope so.
Your past episode 100 people should know about now.
Hey, season three, season of the witch.
Welcome to it.
Thank you for joining us in our first episode of season three.
Yeah.
I feel like we should all be wearing shitty masks right now.
Whoa, those masks are great.
We could put, we have some here that we can put on and I'm sure you do too.
Oh, I've got a ton behind me.
It's like the luchador mask hanging out right up there.
I can see it.
What do you want?
A werewolf?
A guy with his eyes hanging out?
A bunch of witches?
I got you, grandpa.
That grandpa one makes me uncomfortable.
I know.
I felt like I know these people.
I feel like I've met these people.
I feel like they really did a great job of, they must be this way a little bit as filmmakers, like Artie Douchebags and
be conscious of being Artie Douchebags because they were so on the nose.
Yeah, or at least they know, they also know all these people probably intimately.
Yeah.
Yeah. I noticed looking through the credits, a lot of them have worked in other films, usually
behind the scenes. And a lot of them were pulling double duty on this film. Paul was
the makeup supervisor and everything for all those.
Can I say something somewhat ignorant? I really was 100% convinced that Paul was Neil from
Freaks and Geeks. He is not.
Wait, is Neil Sam?
His small Jewish friend?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was convinced that was him.
I thought that was him too when he first showed up.
He's not. Until today, I thought that was him.
Oh, really? You know, when I first was like, is that? Nope. Okay. But yeah, it looks just
like him.
You just like him!
And for a while, that guy had Wolverine sideburns as well. So.
Yeah.
How did you come across this movie?
I've never heard of it before.
So actually I came across it flipping like back in the day flipping through an issue
of Fangoria and it was talking about it because it didn't have a like actual theatrical release.
It was pretty much like these guys came together they made this film primarily out of their
own money then worked on putting
it out. And yeah, I was flipping through Fangoria and they were like, oh, murder party had a
couple pictures. And I was like, like, you know what, this looks pretty cool. Yeah, I
lucked out because I was working at the libraries at the time. And so I was able to use an interlibrary
loan to get it from another library. Oh, nice. And I pretty much like got it, watched it.
And as soon as I finished watching it that that night went on Amazon and bought a copy.
That's awesome.
Oh, was that your reaction to it as well?
Yeah, I bought it today.
That's awesome.
One thing I really liked about this movie is that it definitely felt like a group of
friends got together and made a movie.
Yeah.
It definitely felt like an indie film and like the truest sense of that.
Like, they're not super pro at what they're doing yet, but they're trying.
And I felt like that. They're not super pro at what they're doing yet, but they're trying. And I felt
like that. And it felt like, to me, it also felt like a staged play that was being filmed.
And it's all largely on one set. It's just in this warehouse room.
Right. I think that, yeah, that probably gave it a lot of that vibe.
I feel like I've known so many Bills in my life. The guy who's just sitting there in
the corner and he's real down for whatever whatever he doesn't care and he's like
fucking snaps and then you're like.
I love his costume. He looks so good. Yeah. Yeah. The two costumes that are like recognizable
pop culture things of the fury and then the woman who's dressed like Pris from Blade Runner.
Yeah. She looks just like Daryl Hannah and I was like, whoa, that's crazy.
I really felt, even though Christopher,, the, as he's described in
Wikipedia as a lonely and plain man, even though he has like almost no lines and
you just get that little intro scene of him with a cat, I like really felt I
fell for him and I loved him.
Oh yeah.
He made that pumpkin bread and I was like, I don't know how to make
pumpkin from a pumpkin, you know?
I love it. He was just like, you actually can't. Oh, that's okay. I was like, I don't know how to make pumpkin from a pumpkin, you know?
I love it.
You actually can.
Oh, that's okay.
I was going to ask you that.
I figured you would know because I've only ever made pumpkin stuff from a can.
How do you get pumpkin?
You can't use like regular jack-o-lantern.
You have to use specifically like pie pumpkins.
They're much smaller.
They're like much smaller.
Yeah.
And is it inside like a squash?
It's still pretty much pumpkin-y, but like you blend it up.
Actually one of the special features is the recipe for that pumpkin bread.
With non-organic reasons.
Also, don't make it out of the pumpkin that's obviously been crushed on your front step.
Like there was a boot involved.
Yeah, I'm like there would be no innards on that to make the bread to begin with.
And then I couldn't believe that woman died right up front.
That was awesome. I was like, oh woman died right up front. Oh yeah.
That was awesome.
I was like, oh, I'm in.
I'm in.
Let's do this.
So to make a movie better, you know that my top two things
are decapitation and a fire walk.
Third on that list is still talking
while blood is shooting out of the side of your head.
And that happened twice in this movie.
Yeah.
That's dope.
So they're repeatedly trying to kill this guy and then sort of arguing about they are they're all doing this to get grant money from Alexander. He's a real dildo. He's the king of the dildos. Oh, yeah. He makes Paul take off his way better vampire costume because he's a shittier. Yeah, sucks. I think it's primarily just for the gag though of seeing Paul in that underwear.
Sucks. I think it's primarily just for the gag though of seeing Paul in that underwear.
So she apparently had stopped thinking it was going to be funnier if it would look like huge. But yeah, it just looks shiny. I couldn't figure what was going on.
It's a very uncomfortable thing to wear if you have it.
It's like a goalie jock strap, like one of those huge jock straps you have to wear because
you like something dangerous is definitely going to be flying at your crotch.
Like that's what it looks like.
Well, yeah, 19th century vampire would probably need one of those.
Yeah, all the time.
You never know.
What is Macon Blair's character's name?
Macon.
Oh, Macon, that's right.
He is the least dressed up out of all of them, just putting a werewolf mask on.
Which is obviously like a jab at his face because he has a very hairy face.
Did you think so?
That he was like, he's barely wearing a costume?
I guess that makes sense at the end with what happens to him.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So he, okay, so he is like a, I don't know if they explain what kind of artist he is.
No, I don't think they know Lexi makes video installations and Paul's a photographer and
Bill is a painter.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know what the dead woman does either.
Lexi's video was.
Oh, my God. I love it.
It was amazing.
And at one point it's just some
people throwing hot dogs at a woman in
the bathtub and it made me so happy.
Hot dog bathtub is so good.
That's actually the full film of that
is actually a special feature.
And it was it was directed by
Makin.
It of course had Lexi in it.
And like the like the very first lines are like, father,
are those tears of meat? And then that's when like hot dog training starts happening. And
there's just like ducks popping up and quacking. And it's the most ridiculous thing. It's seriously
like a minute long, but great.
I can't wait for this DVD to arrive.
I am glad that I am at 42, probably at an age where I'll never have to watch another student
film in my life.
We do this podcast, we are definitely going to watch another student film.
The last student film I watched was someone filming someone getting a blowjob in Philadelphia
on the street that he put to the song Skater Boy.
The Avril Lavigne song?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
I would watch that.
And it was like from beginning to end, perfectly timed. So it ended at the end of Skater Boy. And you
can't see anything. There's actually a grocery bag blocking the woman's head.
A plastic grocery bag? No, a paper grocery bag.
A friend of mine sent me a video from something he went to in DC at a gallery where a man
circumcised himself What no, that was the no was his performance art and I watched that that was pretty exciting
It was like a rusty blade. It was supposed to mean something. I don't know
His dick was weird too
I thought it was actually fake, but I don't know. I don't know. Was it a hot dog bats of dick?
Yeah, and then he threw it at a girl don't know. Was it a hot dog bathtub dick?
Yeah.
And then he threw it at a girl.
Just skinned the top of a hot dog off.
Ew.
Just the thought of skinning a hot dog is gross.
Like the guy cutting his foreskin off is not, but skinning a hot dog is just like grossing
me out.
Yeah.
And then throwing it on someone in a bathtub.
No one could have possibly known that this is where this conversation would have gone.
Oh, I could have possibly known that this is where this conversation would have gone.
Oh, I could have guessed.
Can we talk about extreme truth or dare?
Yeah.
Yes.
What is that?
Is that a real drug?
I mean, I guess it's a real drug.
Sodium amethyl, yes.
It is a real drug.
Like sodium pentothal, like truth serum and all that jazz.
Is it real?
I mean, that's real?
That really works.
Supposedly, yeah. Yeah. From what I understand, it's much like being super drunk and your inhibitions are broken down. This
is supposed to do the same thing. Like, you can still lie while you're on that drug. Yeah, it's
just harder. Yeah. Weird. Or like, you can't necessarily trust what they're telling you
either because they're on like this illicit substance. Okay. Thanks. So Alexander has brought a syringe and this sodium amethyl.
He says they're gonna have an extreme truth or dare party. So everyone but him gets injected
with it because he injects a slice of pizza. You can't do that, can you? Could you inject
it into pizza and eat it and have it be the same thing? Why not just squirt it into your
mouth? I think he was just doing that to fake them out. Depends on the drug. Oh.
Okay.
So.
A lot of questions about this.
And the shots of like Bill shooting into his hand and making shooting into his arm, those
are real.
Of course.
But they're not actually doing the shooting.
The hand that's holding the syringe is a medic that they had on set because apparently
you're not allowed to have the person do it themselves if they're not certified and film it but if you have someone else who's
certified do it then like you can totally film it because it's like safe
and whatever I kind of hate that they did that I wonder what they were
injecting themselves with sailing oh sailing yeah I was thinking maybe just
like a little insulin just like a few not, just like pump it up a few notches. Just a little bump of heroin. Just a little, just the tiniest.
Just to just take the edge off.
I remember being a kid and reading some interview with Motley Crue and Nikki Sixx was talking
about mainlining Jack Daniels and I thought that was the coolest thing I'd ever heard
in my life.
Oh, ew.
That's like the precursor to butt chugging.
Did kids still butt chugging or did that go over?
I hope it went away. I think they were like dying weren't they? I thought it wasn't real.
Oh, see. I thought it was an urban legend. What, butt chugging? Yeah, I'm sure somebody did it.
Yeah, I mean like there's like those things like the tampons soaked in vodka too, so. I can't imagine that would work though.
Like that that part of your body is not for the absorption process.
It's still getting absorbed in your bloodstream.
Yeah, I mean, that's how babies get made. I mean, it's got to go somewhere.
I mean, babies are basically tampons soaked in vodka that nine months later come back
out.
Yeah, basically.
That's it.
I'm a butt chug of baby in here.
Wow. I'm a butt chug of baby in you.
I didn't know.
Weren't people doing eye shots too where they were like splashing alcohol in their eyes?
That's the worst idea.
I like so much rather put something into my butt than in my eye.
Your eye, you need your eyes.
You don't need your butt?
I'm gonna be fine.
Actually, if I could back it up for a second, like right before the extreme truth or dare
ends up happening, Alexander gives like a big dumb speech and asks them like what they
plan to do to Chris who is tied up in this chair and what their plans are. And I mean,
like for the most part, they're all pretty lame. Paul just wants to do it as part of
the photo installation. Lexi wants to do it as part of the photo installation.
Lexi wants to add it to her video, like you were saying, because that just fits in.
Macon just talks about like, cutting him up and doing things and then he backtracks and
is like, nah, just staple a pancake to his face and throw him in front of a train.
And then when they get to Bill, Bill's just like, I don't know, cut his dick off and set
him on fire. And then it's like, Bill, Bill's just like, I don't know, cut his dick off and set him on fire.
And then there's like, go back to his painting.
And I'm disappointed because the like other lines that they didn't use were, make a mask
out of his butthole.
And the other one was, cut his dick off and fuck the hole if that didn't already make
me cum.
Oh my god. That one I got caught.
Yeah, that's like, that does not tonally fit into the rest of the movie at all.
No.
So, well, Bill, like we talked about Bill flipping out and like his actual like breakdown
and flip out scared people so bad that an ADR had to leave the set because they didn't
trust Bill anymore during those scenes.
Oh shit.
Yeah. Yeah, they talked about like shit coming out of his mouth that they were like, he went
someplace dark and they weren't sure if he was going to come back. So.
Which is funny because like he does flip out but it's also so comedic, you know what I
mean? It's sort of like, I don't want to say like a lighthearted slaughtering of several
people but you know, it's not as dark as one might expect.
No, but yeah getting back to the like extreme truth or their part, it's like the first part
where we actually get to see all of those characters as like kind of I don't know I
guess like the mask comes off and you get to see them as like actual people as they
go through and start telling their secrets and like whatever they're trying to hide and
like of course Makin has no big secret that he's super intellectual.
But he tells that creepy like popsicle stick story.
It's a ziplock. What a creep.
I feel like, see, I feel like I've known creeps like that.
I feel like I know these people.
Yeah. But I mean, that that kind of sets up like for his breakdown.
And out of that, too, is the start of Bill's breakdown when he asks everyone else,
he's like, what do you guys say about me when I'm not around? And they're just like,
oh, we're kicking you out of the collective, but it's because you're too good of an artist
and it makes us all feel bad.
And then they make fun of his painting behind his back too. I would have liked to have seen
it. I wish they would have showed what it was.
Supposedly it was supposed to be like really good. Like the actor, William, who plays Bill
is actually a really good artist. So actor, William, who plays Bill is actually
a really good artist. So they were like, Oh yeah, we wish we would have shown it. But
well, they're all really decent actors as well. Like none of them are. I mean, they're
all believable for the role they're being. Yeah. I feel like normally when you see people
who have other movie experience, like behind the camera or makeup people, you can always tell they're not actors. It's like when you have or makeup people you can always tell
they're not actors it's like when you have center stage and you can just tell
they're all ballerinas and not actors
I would say probably Alexander's probably the weakest of them yeah but
yeah thought all of the rest of them are really great. Can we talk about Zyko? Yes. The drug dealer who works in a pierogi shop?
Yeah.
Big fan.
Yeah.
I like that he was just like sort of nondescriptly European.
He sort of sounds Russian, works in a place that sells Polish food and only wants to eat
fish and chips.
Yeah.
Like what?
They were just like, get a Euro guy.
I like that.
Can we talk about my new favorite phrase?
Sure.
Which is when our guy, what is his name?
Chris?
Yeah.
When he is stuck with the sodium, his truth is that I stuck a dump right in my pants.
Stuck a dump.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
And I was like, holy shit, I am definitely adopting that into my vernacular.
Yeah.
Stuck a dump.
Do you think it means stuck as in like, I placed a dump, like I stuck it over
there, or do you think it's stuck like sticking the landing?
I think it's more like he placed that dump right into his trousers.
I hope it's not like sticking the landing, because that would mean like you
nailed it and you did it perfectly.
And then jumped up and shoved his arms right up in the air.
I was on this elevator and I was like, I need to shit my pants at this moment.
Stuck it.
Ten.
The door opens, judges there with signs, just fucking good job.
Ten for the Russian.
Also, a lot of cocaine in this movie. A lot of cocaine. They're just
like wiping it on their faces. I don't think that's how you do it.
If it eventually makes it to your nose or gums, you're good.
I like when Hellhammer eats the bag of crank.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
I was really worried when... So Alexander and Lexi, you see them running?
Oh my God.
Did you really just say that out loud?
Yes.
It's really like, it's not like, it's not pretty what they're doing.
It's pretty gnarly.
No.
It's like when you watch a hockey game and the puck goes in a corner and you see like
two guys go and one gets pressed up against the boards from behind and they're digging
for it. Like it's basically that. It's just two people like breathing
heavily up against a piece of glass and like moving their bodies.
Yeah, that's fair.
It just, it seemed very animal to me. It didn't seem very like, so when Macon finds out about
this, he goes outside to have a cigarette.
He's covered in liquor.
Yeah. And he puts his mask-
Which is actually like, it's milky water.
It's what?
It's like milk and water mixed to make it look like grain alcohol, because they thought that regular water wouldn't show.
But yeah, it's like super gross.
So he goes outside and he's kind of like giving the dog the business, the dog that they just tied up outside.
Everybody hates this dog. Everyone hates the dog that they hate it.
That dog's been great. He's had a lot of fun. He had a cool outfit on.
Just sitting there. Hell hammer. That's a terrible name for a dog. I would have named
that dog Jojo. He looks like a Jojo.
He goes to light his cigarette after drinking grain alcohol. He puts his mask down to light
his cigarette.
Like you do.
Then we just, don't we see it it from the like there's light coming through the
window that he's on fire.
Like we don't actually see him light his head on fire.
Just a burst of flames outside of a window and that's it.
Yeah, you see it basically from Chris's perspective because he is the only one
who sees it inside and he's just like, oh shit, we've already gone past my
favorite part, I think, which is when they've originally they tied him down just with a rope and Chris. Oh shit, we've already gone past my favorite part, I think, which is when they've originally
they tied him down just with a rope and Chris got himself free and runs around and runs
into this utility closet that's filled with stuff filled with shit that you can make into
weapons and I'm like, Oh God, what's he gonna do?
He's gonna make a weapon.
He's gonna make a weapon.
He's eyeing all this stuff and it's like a little montage.
So then you're outside the door with the rest of them as they're waiting for him to come
out and he kicks the door up with his arm full of stuff and just
drops it and runs away. I laughed for so long when that happened.
That was really good. I love this movie at this point in time.
There's a lot of good like physical comedy in this movie that I really didn't expect
at all. I thought he was great. Like especially Chris
was really good at the physical comedy. Yeah.
Yeah. So should we talk about Bill's breakdown?
Sure.
Well, we should mention that Makin's face and the mask meld into one.
Oh, yeah.
The mask is a melt, so he's got like a werewolf mouth now.
He's on fire for a really, really long time.
Lexi finds him and runs out and grabs a fire extinguisher, comes back with it.
It doesn't work.
She comes back, grabs the assistant, and they both grab the last two fire extinguishers and run out and put
them out. So the whole thing is like at least two minutes of like this shit going on.
And he's he's okay. Yeah. I mean, like, it's it's worth it for that scene of him peeling
the mask off his face. And just like the mixture of like blood and burnt plastic and like
the fact that that snout just stays on his face is the best thing.
Yeah, the special effects are great on that. Kudos Paul.
Yeah, definitely.
So yeah, Bill goes nuts. Let's talk about it.
We know that he's starting to break down after he finds out he's getting kicked out
and then they send him out to check on hell hammer. And he's kind of just standing
out there looking at the dog and being like, you know, fuck you, fuck you, I kill the fuzzy
ones. And
why? What does hell hammer do?
But it starts to build. And then the moment where like he has the full breakdown is when
everything starts to go to shit and hell hammer eats the crank and attacks Alexander and tears
the front of his like mouth off, shoots his lips off.
Which I really liked because Alexander was like, I'm going to have him put down.
I only like puppies.
And it's like, okay, you're the ultimate bad. It's like the literally the thing a person can say to be the worst bad guy in a movie.
You know? Sure. Yeah. Oh, also, well, I mentioned like not having lips. I'm going to interrupt this
part just because you guys mentioned it in every single like zombie film now since Dead Snow,
the lore with modern zombies and why they don't have lips is because since they can't feel
And how you normally eat you pull back your lips
But if you're good, like when they go to eat flesh, they don't notice that they're just biting through their own lips
That's how much they want like the flesh or brains so they end up just chewing their own lips off
That's silly
I kind of buy that though because sometimes when i'm really hungry
I'll find myself just making like a chewing face.
Like I'll be moving my teeth like I'm chewing, but I'm not eating anything.
I can see eating your own lips and just being like, oh.
So we're not going with my theory that that's just a snack for them.
They're just like, delicious.
Save a little for later.
Thank you for that piece of information.
It was something that was like bugging me and I was like, I really want to text it, but now I have to have the right contacts.
And I'm like, oh, OK, now, so just mention it.
But yeah, so Hell Hammer rips off Alexander's lips.
Alexander comes crawling out.
And that's when Bill gets up and uses his bat
from his Fury costume and just starts beating Alex
over the head and calling him his real name, which
we find out is Tim.
And he's just like, oh, how's this Tim?
You liked it?
And just screaming at him
and just continually starts to break down.
And at one point ends up with the axe
and is just driving the axe into Alexander's body
and head over and over and over again.
At one point earlier, Alexander was like,
oh, bring a cake. And they're trying to figure out food. And he smashes the cake with the axe
then. And from there, just starts going around the entire thing, saying everybody dies and trying to
kill Chris, which has pretty much been in to the whole time. He says a line earlier when they're like, are you ready to do this murder? He's like, I didn't sign up for second
degree assault party.
I read that down. I love that. Chris escape. Chris frees him. Or Lexi. No, Lexi. Yeah,
she gets the key from her bag. Okay. Why would she do that? I guess just because everything's
going to shit and there's no point. I think so. Yeah, like just kind of like here, save
yourself. And I mean, why are you going to shit and there's no point. I think so. Yeah, like just kind of like here, save yourself.
I mean, why are you going to keep him around anyway?
Like you're about to die.
True. All right.
He escapes by going up a conveyor belt.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, there's no way this is going to work.
It worked. Like I was so excited.
I kept thinking about that scene in Child's Play too, where he's going up the thing.
Yeah, never mind.
So it also works in saving him too, because when Bill's coming after him, he's already at the
top. And so Bill's like coming up and like yelling at him and he just hits the down button
and Bill's like, fuck, what do I do now? Because he's sliding down this conveyor belt.
That was another really great comedic moment in this.
There's so many of them. Like even Bill goes on this rampage, right? And he's chasing Chris.
They end up going into this other party, Cicero's party, where there's like an art exhibit that's
happening and it's people with makeup on their boobs, I would say.
It's basically an excuse to show boobs in a film and they were like, just put some paint
on it. Just paint on the city. So. And he goes to like.
It's definitely one of the like the weirdest still lifes.
Yeah.
He goes to like attack this guy with an axe and the guy just says something like, I don't
love her, not a fighter.
And then gets smashed with the axe and it was like, yeah, fuck that guy.
I thought that was so funny.
It's a good setup for that because right before that happens, Chris just turns to everybody
in the room and goes, we have to fight him or he'll kill
us all and that's why that guy ends up saying that line but like just like that's a cute magic
Just being in a room and this some guy walks in and then this other guy who ran in earlier
Turns you and said like I would be like what the fuck are you talking about? What is going on here?
So it's also that thing
I really like about movies where there's a Halloween party happening where you the party goers don't believe that it's real which I feel
Like it's sort of a thing that gets used a lot, but to great effect
on this movie.
Yeah.
We've got to talk about the super intense pissing scene.
Oh, yeah.
Where Chris really has to pee, but he's being chased by Bill.
And he has to stop and pee down the grate on top of one of these buildings.
And it's just like this hilarious, like he can see Bill running at him,
but he's just trying to finish this pee before he takes off.
I feel like we've discussed this before,
but can dudes not stop peeing once you start peeing?
Not super well. You can't just cork it and go?
No, you can, but it's actually really kind of
like a painful burn, so I do.
So you get like a point of no return.
Yeah, which is pretty much as soon as you start pissing.
Weird. I feel like I can plug it and go anytime I need to.
Especially if someone's chasing me with an axe.
That's all.
I mean, I would have just pissed on myself at that point.
Yeah.
Anyway.
I just have the no tense pissing scene.
Yeah.
We don't get a lot of those.
No, no.
Chris has a lot of like weird random shit that really gets him in trouble in this film
because there's that like him stopping the
piss and that gives Bill a chance to catch up or like when he's like hopping across the roof trying to hide from Bill and
He like ducks down below this
He figures he won't see him and he can like get up and run back but his alarm to take his Xanax goes off
I was and holy shit. He's taking Xanax
I was wondering like I figured he must be epileptic or something because he's
taking it like a block before he gets to his house, like that med could not wait a single
block, you know?
Oh, that's hilarious.
I didn't know what he was taking.
That's great.
How do you know that?
I explained so much.
So at the end, right before he throws a bottle of pills into the river, he's like turning
it and you can get most of the word.
So I, of course course like Google searched it,
and it's the generic term for Xanax.
Oh, that's fantastic.
That explains why he's so mellow the entire time.
But then I kept thinking like,
you're gonna have a seizure, buddy.
Why'd you throw your pills away?
I was getting really nervous for him.
I also loved Macon with his burned face
running around in the scene with the chainsaw.
The electric chainsaw. With the electric chainsaw.
With the plug, like this huge long orange extension cord dragging behind him.
That's just such a funny, like a funny bit to do without any effort.
You know what I mean?
It's so good.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I absolutely hate electric chainsaws in films though.
Like I know that, I think it was like Hostel 2 maybe?
I think it used it in one but like with this to even this
I'm like just have a fucking regular gas power chainsaw like you had gas there obviously
like I saw it in the like one closet just get a real chainsaw is that what a sawzall
is?
No it's just a chainsaw sawzall is a reciprocating blade it's not the chain.
Okay thanks.
I feel like I have a lot of questions about what things are in this episode.
I'm glad you guys are figuring it out for me.
Probably the tool talk.
We're going to...
Just get a couple guys on your podcast.
We're going to talk about tools for a while.
Which of you is Al?
I guess that's got to be me, right?
Legally.
Probably.
Are you wearing the plaid right now?
No, I'm wearing all black like worms.
The climax of this is Chris has gotten the chainsaw from Macon and starts-
Well, he gets the chainsaw because Macon falls off the roof.
Oh, that's what I'm plugging it in.
I love that.
Yeah, he like backs up over the edge of the roof and just completely falls.
And at this point, Bill is confronting Chris, and Chris has actually kind of accepted the fact
that he's about to get killed by Bill,
because you see him have that moment of,
well, shit, and start to slowly walk forward.
Yeah.
And making falls past the window,
and you just see the extension cord dangling there.
So he runs and pulls it up real quick.
And fun fact, do you guys know what previous episode
that you guys had
all painless is from say again well like on the chain so it says all painless so
do you guys know what previous episode you guys did Texas chainsaw to open no
old painless is actually Jesse Ventura's gun in Predator that's shit. What? Ah! That's amazing.
I didn't know that and I love that they referenced it.
Wow.
I guess that proves it's a horror movie after all.
And that we don't know shit about shit for these movies.
I don't know shit about anything
and I have never claimed to.
I don't think anyone's listening to this for expert.
I mean, it's like, well except for Simba's
bringing the funk to that.
Yeah, thank you Simba.
So he gets the chainsaw and just fucking jabs it right into Bill's face and it looks great
It looks so good. I was like, how are they doing?
That's totally dope and Bill is screaming and just has this scream face that's happening while getting the chainsaw
Oh, yeah, you could tell that half his head is fake
But the half that isn't is screaming and it looks awesome. Yeah. And his fury makeup never smears.
No, that's really good.
But yeah, his scream is so good. Because it is like such a like, harsh, like it's just a voice
breaking at like a high pitch. And it's like, oh, yeah. And the application and like that's one of
the few times they use like a CG effect to make that chainsaw blade move
Because everything else was at most of it was like on set, but yeah, like it was an application that they had on him
I can even notice
I do have the note all of his ID is in that warehouse when they find those bodies his wallet
They make a point of him being like oh shit, I don't have wallet. I can't take the subway home. So he has to walk home.
Plus the fact that like everyone at that party can ID him walking out covered in blood.
Yeah. Like he walks out dials 911 on the bouncer's phone and just goes, it's for you. And like
walks away and I'm like, is that you totally just saw your face? Like even though you're still
wearing the stupid cardboard knight helmet shit.
Yeah.
He knows what you look like.
Am I supposed to feel like
he's gonna get in trouble for this?
I don't know. I hope not.
Cause there is a happy ending.
I love the ending where his cat finally respects him.
Thanks Sir Lancelot.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love that.
He's finally gonna eat his candy corn
and watch his horror movies
and the cat finally
gets out of the seat, which was great.
They must have made this movie for not very much money at all.
No, no, like they funded it almost entirely out of pocket.
They had two investors, one of which was one of the guy's bosses.
Oh, wow.
So yeah, for an indie film that had like a minimal budget, it's phenomenal is how I look
at it.
Yeah, they made it work.
Yeah.
And I mean like,
It doesn't look that cheap.
No, like everything looks great.
Like I think they said the CG chainsaw costs like a pretty penny on that.
But everything else looked great.
And I think that's just like the talent of the people.
They've been making movies together since they were like young kids.
And they show like some clips from the old movies in the making of
and they were just they were like
maybe like 10 or 11 12 something like that and already having ideas of like using squibs and like
Different things like that to make it have that realism. So they were really like ingrained in this from the start. Oh, that's awesome
I love this. I really did I have to be honest. I loved this. Well, on that note, why don't we move on to the ratings phase?
Katie, you want to go first?
I think everybody should see this movie.
I feel like more, I wish more people knew about it.
I wish I'd heard of it sooner. I loved it.
I loved like every moment of it.
I'm going to give it a nine.
I loved it. It was so good.
It was so good.
That's awesome.
I'm going to give it a 9.5. I just can gonna give it a nine. Whoa. I loved it. It was so good. It was so good.
That's awesome. I'm gonna give it a 9.5. Whoa. I just can't give it a 10 because I feel like
then it competes with Child's Play 2, which is like so important. Nothing should. So important.
Simba, give me your rating on this movie.
This is honestly probably like one of my favorite like horror comedy movies of all time.
I'd put it above things like Shaun of the Dead,
or I mean, probably the only other movie
that I can think of that comes close to it
is gonna be John Dice at the end.
So I'm gonna say a 9.5 as well.
Yeah.
Whoa.
What about you?
I'm gonna give it a solid nine.
Oh yeah? Are we pressuring you into that? No, no, give it a solid nine. Oh yeah?
Yeah.
Are we pressuring you into that?
No, no, no, no.
Are we just stronger me with our enthusiasm?
I'm just, I'm taking it back by the better than Shaun of the Dead.
I'm still processing.
It's one of those things too where like, Shaun of the Dead is fantastic and basically like
all of those films really are.
Yeah.
But is Shaun of the Dead super good in your head because of what it was at the time?
Or because it's like, you know, like, is it always placed in that spot for you?
Or is it just like, do you think nothing can ever beat it that will ever come out?
Oh, I don't know. I mean, it's not like one of the best movies I've ever seen.
But as far as like horror zombie comedy movies, it's definitely the top five of that.
If you're going to do like, yeah, if you're, yeah, if you're gonna add the zombie thing to it,
then yeah, definitely.
But also, USA, USA, USA.
So that's what matters to me.
But yeah, I would highly recommend
that fans of horror and laughter,
that scene alone where he drops the fucking armful of stuff,
like, that's so genius.
He like makes a noise, he's like,
ugh, as he throws it, which I feel like, it's exactly what you would do, you'd be like, I don't care, fuck, that is so genius. He makes a noise, he's like, as he throws it,
which I feel like it's exactly what you would do,
you'd be like, I don't care, fuck, I don't know.
I would definitely stick a dunk as well.
They're so confused after it too,
because he does that little head juke,
and then it's just that moment where they all look at him
run off, and they're like, the fuck was that?
It's so worth it.
He's running in a cardboard suit,
that he's almost waddling in,
and for then he's almost blending in with all this. It's obviously a cardboard box warehouse. Yeah.
And he's like blending in with the boxes. I just loved it. I thought it was so good.
Yeah. Super, super smart and fun and just like, yeah. And so, so believable. I know
all those people. I know them and I can't wait to watch that hot dog bathtub video.
I'm so excited. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, you get some really good extras on it.
You get like the making of some deleted scenes and bloopers.
Chris actually takes you through how to make the cardboard knight costume.
Oh, Jesus.
It's a really well-designed costume, too.
Yeah, it's cool.
Yeah, he did it himself.
He showed up on set with that and is like, this is the costume.
And they were like, fucking A, let's go.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Man, I wish I was crafty.
Yeah, I wish I could Yeah. That's amazing. I wish I was crafty.
Yeah, I wish I could do things with my hands.
These meat clubs, I can't do anything with them.
Stupid.
All right, Simba, do you have anything you'd like to promote on here?
Yeah, sure.
So I currently do a horror blog called 30 Days of Plight.
Basically what I do is over the course of 30 days, I watch movies off
of the Netflix horror category that I choose by rolling 1D10 and 1D12. And then whatever
I end up getting, that's basically what I'm stuck watching.
I'm so sorry.
For the most part from start to finish.
For the most part.
Yeah. There's a couple that I've really wanted to drop out. But then I review the movie,
give it a rating out of five. And
basically, like I'll do these for a block and then I'll take a break for like a month
and then I'll come back and do another block. So right now I'm about to finish up my third
cut, as I call them. And I'll probably have something special going on for Halloween itself.
And then back in like mid November, I'll be back into doing another cut. Oh, that's awesome.
Oh, and that's at 30daysofplight.com, number 30.
So three zero D-A-Y-S-O-F-P-L-I-G-H-T.
I'm also on Facebook under the exact same thing, 30 days of plight.
Yeah, you guys should check it out.
Oh, that's radical.
Also like, God, you're punishing yourself.
You haven't had to do less shift yet, have you?
No, I haven't yet.
I hope you've never have to.
So I'm trying to think.
I saw some people hyping that movie
on the internet recently, and I was like, Alan said no.
I wanted to melon ball my own eyeballs out.
It was bad.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely been some movies
where I'm just like, oh, God, I can't believe
I have to watch this to the end.
The worst thing about watching this many horror movies
back to back to back to back is that you really start to figure out the formulas.
Yeah, like 10 minutes into a movie, you're like, it's that fucking person. I know it.
What is the single worst thing you've watched on Netflix so far?
Oh, shit. Off the top of my head. I can't remember. I know there was one, not this cut, but the last cut that I gave rather than giving it
like a zero out of five.
I gave it a negative five out of five.
It's that bad.
Yeah, I can't remember what it is, but it was it was real fucking rough.
That'll be one thing for the EMTs to go and find out on their own on the blog.
Go check out their do youysonplay.com.
Yeah, go for it.
You know what else I really love?
Um, chain saws to the face?
What else though? You know that tampons with vodka, chain saws to the face.
Sticking a dump.
Sticking a dump.
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Great name.
It is.
This zine will be coming out on the 25th of November
at 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Is that Thanksgiving?
It's a Friday, Thanksgiving on a Thursday.
Oh, it's Black Friday.
Oh.
Black Fridays!
Shhh!
It's the other kind of Black Friday.
The dark kind.
There will be no bonus prints in this one, but we'll come with the mini-illustro obscurum
by one, Michael Bukowski.
Oh, that's awesome.
That will feature 10 of William Hope Hodgson's monsters.
If you are unfamiliar with Nick Gukker's work, Mike gave me a little blurb to read, so here
I go.
Nick Gukker's dripping expressive illustrations are a perfect
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Those sound like things I'm super interested in.
Stories like House on the Borderland and The Voice in the Night have become staples of
weird fiction, just as Gukker is becoming with the modern weird, having illustrated
books for Matthew Bartlett, S.P. Miskowski, and friend of the podcast,
Orin Gray. So November 25th, 11am, it's a Friday.
Eastern Eastern Eastern. Black Friday, Eastern Standard Time, EST.
You got a Christmas list you got to shop for, you got these people who want things, they
probably want this scene. Yeah, shit sells out so quick.
Yeah, get on it. Yeah. So thank you, Jason. Thank you, Dylan. Thank you, DGS.
Thank you, Mike, for supporting us. You guys are wonderful. And thank you, EMTs, for supporting
them and the circle of support goes around. Let them know. The circle of life. We'll support
you. Yeah, we support you with laughter. Simba, thanks for being here and thank you for giving me this movie. It has made me so happy.
Yeah, this has got to be right up there with... Oh god, what was... Neon Maniacs.
Neon Maniacs, yeah.
Like the gift of a...
Super gift.
It's the anti-God Monster.
Sorry, K.
Yeah, thank you so much for doing this and being on the podcast.
Yeah, thanks for having me and I'm'm super glad you guys really liked the movie.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. All right, talk to you later, buddy.
Yeah. All right, cool.
Thanks. Later.
Bye. Bye.
Now, next week's kind of a big week for us.
Well, yeah, our episode's gonna be coming out
on the most precious day of the year.
Halloween.
Halloween.
Halloween. Halloween. Yeah, Halloween! Halloween!
Yeah, it's Halloween.
And in honor of that, we're doing a classic...
Question mark?
Story.
Definitely a positive story.
The story of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving, as told through the lens of Timothy Burton.
I've never seen it, honestly.
Oh my god, really?
Yeah.
It's one of my favorite movies.
I love it.
And I've seen like a cartoon version of it.
Oh yeah, yeah, the Disney cartoon.
That's great.
You know when he's singing in the car?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I love it.
I love that cartoon.
I used to get so excited every Halloween for that and the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.
That horse is terrifying.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Just gotta run board with that.
This movie is, we'll talk about it.
I haven't even seen it yet. I have nothing to say. Oh yeah. Okay, just gotta run board with that. This movie is, we'll talk about it.
I was about to go to a run review.
I didn't even see it yet, I have nothing to say.
But this is our first Jolly Dep film.
Yeah, hi Nana.
Hi Nana.
We've never gotten to dip our toes
in the Jolly Dep waters.
Is this our first Christina Ricci film too?
I don't think we've done a Christina Ricci either.
We haven't done Casper?
Or the Ice Storm?
Adam's Family?
Oh yeah.
Or the Adam's family values.
Or Black Snake Moan.
No, don't know that one.
I'll explain the plot to that one later.
So yeah, Sleepy Hollow is on Netflix right now.
It's a great Halloween movie.
There's tons of Jack O'Lanterns in it.
Aesthetically very pleasing.
You'll be stoked.
Christopher Walken's in it.
It's good.
Our second Christopher Walken's in it. It's good. Our second Christopher Walken appearance.
And join us next week for Sleepy Hollow. And Halloween.
Yeah, that too.
Oh, we're gonna need so much fucking candy on the air.
I'm gonna be sick. Okay, great. Thanks for listening to another
episode of Whirlpool Ambulance.
Bye.
Bye. Thanks for watching!