Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Re-release- The Strangers (2008)
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Katie.
Alan.
Happy Rex Manning Day.
No, we must not be sad.
Not on Rex Manning Day.
This may be the only opportunity to ever get...
No, we're going to do that movie.
Oh my God, I love that movie.
I've seen it as an adult.
You don't have to tell me it doesn't hold up.
It does to me.
I watched it not too long ago.
So good.
It's so bad.
There's no plot.
What's the guy that's in Can Hardly Wait in that movie?
Ethan Embry.
He is great in both those movies.
He's great in both those movies.
I wanted to marry his character from Can Hardly Wait when I was 15 years old.
A little problematic later on in life.
Really?
Oh, there's the whole thing like, I wrote you a letter.
Why don't you love me?
The whole aspect of that movie.
Yeah.
Which also reminds me, I've been hitting the replacement so fucking hard recently.
God, I love the replacements.
Yeah, if you've never gone down the replacements road, give a shot.
Just get down there.
Just get down there and roll around.
Yeah, pleased to meet me.
Great record.
Please to meet me such a great record.
Let it be.
Love that record.
Even Tim.
Tim.
Great record.
If you like a little bit more punk rock, go with stink, there's just a lot of options out there.
You just have so much out there.
This is our episode about the replacement.
Thanks Paul Westerberg for joining us.
That would be weird.
It would be weird.
I'm glad he's not here.
I don't want to talk to him.
We still have not had a guest where we're actually talking to someone about a thing they did.
Oh, we did it to some Burry massacre.
That's right.
Yeah.
We did that once then.
We did that once.
And it was a little bit weird.
That's not our thing.
our thing. We haven't had a guest in a long time, have we?
No.
Katie, Rex Manning Day, not as fun as I remember it being.
The Strangers or Empire Records?
The Strangers.
You remembered this movie being
fun.
No. Okay, let's back up the trucks.
I'd never seen this movie before. You've never seen this movie before.
It's my first time. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk to me about your feelings on it.
So, it's got Scott Speedman in it.
I forgot.
I was going to open this episode by saying Scott Speedman.
It didn't.
You didn't.
It's going to be hard for them to sync up.
Scott Speedman, live Tyler.
And then other than Glenn Howardton, no one I've ever heard of before.
Dennis, I forgot Dennis was in this movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, there are very few actors in this movie there, to be fair.
For sure.
Yeah.
I love the opening based on true events.
I love when people lie about that at the beginning of movies.
It wasn't this just like basically about the Manson family murders?
Basically there was like a couple other murders that they were referencing.
Yeah.
Which like once you start like, you know, Texas chainsaw massacres like Ed Gain and all that stuff, like I'd rather you just lie and say it was based on stuff and don't tell me what you're basing it on because then it becomes like, oh, that stuff's gross.
Yeah, right.
That's a real people that really died.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, this is not at all what happened in the Manson murder.
No.
No.
But anyway.
You hate the idea of a home invasion.
This is a big scare for you.
It's the only thing that still scares me.
That's not true.
In horror movie.
It's like a horror genre trope.
I was going to say like,
what if a wolf was chasing you down the street?
You'd be fucking pooping yourself.
Yeah, but that's a lot less likely than someone breaking into my house to murder me.
Strongly disagree.
Wolves are getting pushed out of the wilderness.
Are there wolves?
Coyotes.
That's right.
You did tell me that.
Yeah, we have, okay.
I don't think they're in city limits yet, but they're in Washington County.
Everybody's moving out of the suburbs into the cities.
Gentrifying this shit.
Including coyotes.
Coyotes.
I saw a coyote out of Tassadour the other day.
I had a tassadour the other day. I was like...
His hair was perfect.
Skinny jeans so tight.
Yeah.
But they have to wear two pairs of skinny jeans.
Let's discuss.
So, this is the tale of woe.
Of James and Kristen on the night that James asked Kristen to marry him.
And she says, a no.
Here's a thing.
I don't think you should ask someone to marry you if you have not previously discussed getting married.
It should never be a shock.
A surprise?
Fine.
But, like, to have to think about it, I think no one should get themselves into that situation.
Also, super tacky to do it at somebody else's writing.
I strongly agree.
Were you going to steal their fucking day?
Come on, buddy.
Come on, Speedman.
Come on.
So the movie opens on Mormons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who find, like, it's, it's, the time flips that happen in this movie are real weird.
How do you mean?
Well, like, it opens on the ending of the movie.
Yeah.
Of the two kids finding the murder scene.
Yeah, and like a 911 call.
Yeah.
In which 911 operators are much nicer in movies than they are in real life.
It's true.
I get fucking yelled out by a 911 operator.
Recently?
In the last year, two years and a half.
Yeah.
sucked.
I can't, yeah.
Yeah.
I was calling to report what I believed to be a crime because a woman came running down the
street screaming, someone's chasing me.
And so I called 911 and I was like, uh, blah, blah, blah, like explaining what was
happening.
And the guy was like, you're not listening.
What county are you in?
I was like, you fucking know what county I'm in.
This is, isn't there a GPS for this shit?
There's a big board where the red light of my phone comes up.
Right.
I mean, I'm in the middle of a city.
You know where I'm in the city.
am.
What county are you in?
I was like, I don't know.
Allegheny.
I'm sorry.
Did I call the past?
You know where the fuck I am.
You know where the fuck I am.
If Google knows that I was at Arby's,
literally every time I go to the park across the street from Arby's, which I go to a lot
with my child, Google's like, how was Arby's?
I'm like, fuck off.
If Instagram knows that I was talking about Ruggables?
Yeah, man, Ruggables is the worst.
It's everywhere.
Missy told me
Oh, Ruggables.
I looked at it once.
Now I fucking everything I look at is Ruggables.
Hey, EMTs, go check your Instagram.
You got ads for Ruggables now.
Sorry, we did it to you.
I'm sorry.
Alexa.
Alexa, search Ruggables.
Alexa, tell the 911 operator what county I'm in.
Oh God, don't do that, Alexa.
Alexa.
Alexa.
Jesus.
Some people are so mad at us right now.
Not people with a Google Home, though.
I don't have any of these things.
things and yet everything is still listening to me except that 911 operator so yeah and then we cut
to the worst night of Scott Speedman's life because Lib Tyler said no yeah and he'd already filled
the home with rose petals which is like kind of the thing about that is that like someone has to
clean those up when was he going to do it there's a lot of rose petals yeah it's gross yeah and then
she still gets in the bathtub with them I was like that's gauche don't you think
She still got into the bathtub after all that rust water came out too.
Yeah, let it run.
Also, this is supposed to be a summer home, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's obviously Scott Speedman's childhood home.
Or at least a home that they went to, yeah, when he was a child, yeah.
But, like, there was so much, like, I don't know, I've never had a second house.
No.
Do you fill that with all your stuff as well?
I don't know.
But he does angrily check the mail, which I like when they first got there,
which is like just a weird little.
little thing of him just like checking the mailbox and then slamming it shut.
Who's sending mail to your summer home?
Yeah.
I don't know.
There's a lot that falls apart of the summer home aspect because it doesn't seem like
it's in a summery place.
I don't know.
It's just like on the side of the road.
Yeah.
They pass a lake, but go by for a while.
Yeah, it seems like you can get better property if you're Scott Sweetman's parents.
Especially with that big ass barn.
What were they doing with the barn?
Living in it?
Yeah.
Using the radio?
Who were they radioing?
Why was there a radio in the barn?
Are there radios in barn?
I've never been in a barn.
Yeah, man, you're just going to go out there
and ham radioed up, talk to people,
talk to truckers on the highways.
Oh, it was a recreational radio.
Not like a rescue radio.
A rec ray, not a rest ray.
I'm not in radios.
I'm fun.
I don't know things.
I hope someone gets that as a tattoo.
Please don't.
Please, please, please, please, please, please.
I was thinking the other day
that I'd need to get a tattoo.
to wear a ambulance tattoo
because I don't want someone
to get one before I do.
Not that I think anyone's going to
but I just was like,
what is somebody he does?
I don't want to be the one
who doesn't,
I don't want to be the second
werewolf ambulance tattoo.
Alan just threw down the gauntlet.
He's got to get one before you do.
So they're in a fight.
No, they're not in a fight.
They're just in an uncomfortable space.
It's very sad.
And then they start fucking.
Yeah, and then they stop fucking.
Because there's a knock at the door
at four o'clock in the fucking morning.
Right.
Abandon ship.
Yeah.
You got to go.
You got to go.
There's so many opportunities to fix this situation that they don't take.
You at least have to run around the house and lock all the fucking doors and windows.
I would just get in the car and leave.
Honestly, I would.
Yeah.
Honestly, I would.
Yeah, just go get a fucking hotel.
Yeah.
You got 50 bucks.
There was a wedding not that far away, so there's a hotel somewhere, you know?
So here's a question.
Because I am terrified of this happening, have I thought of contingency plans that normal people have not fun?
of.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
I guess so, yeah.
I mean, yes, I have machetes around my house for tactical reasons.
You know that's not normal.
You know that.
It's also weird that you hung those paint cans up on the ceiling and your stairs.
I think you should take those down.
I never know when the fucking wet bandit's going to work in.
I just feel like someday they're going to slip.
Hit me right in my teeth.
Oh, God.
Sorry about the hot doorknob.
There was a hot door knob in last week's movie.
I forgot to bring it up.
Sorry.
There was so much we forgot to bring up
in the last week's movie.
Do you think he opened that door with a boner
because he definitely had a boner
and he just opens the door.
Like that's the thing I also don't believe you do
is open the door with a boner.
Here's a thing.
Yeah.
As a haver of a boner?
Right now?
No.
Thank God.
With the capabilities.
Someone knocks on your door at 4 a.m.
You don't have a boner anymore.
That fast.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
As a person who's never had a boner,
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that
Then he leaves and just throws a bottle of champagne in the front yard
Why?
Let someone else drink that
Also, as a friend
If we're somewhere and you run out of smokes
I'm not leaving you alone after someone knocked on the door at 4 o'clock in the fucking morning
I know
Also, he nonchalantly screws the light bulbs back in
Yeah
So at that point it was like, oh, Speedman's in on it.
Did you think so?
Yeah.
Interesting.
I just think he's a dumb, dumb, dumb, dummy, which I guess it turns out he is.
But how do you screw the lightballs back in?
Because you're going to remember the lights were on when you came into the fucking house.
So that woman unscrewed those light bulbs.
Right.
She had to have.
And not go, well, I need to get the machete that's hiding behind that door.
And now I'm going to have to kill people.
You just slip back into Allen.
You left Scott Speedman, you're back into Allen.
But that's like, if you're like, oh,
Oh, these light bulbs came unscrued while she was knocking on the door.
Yeah.
Old houses.
Also, like, why didn't you get more smokes on the way to the wedding?
You were going to a wedding.
You're going to need all them smokes.
Yeah.
I don't know.
There's a lot of life choices that Liv Tyler's made in this movie that I'm just not too
familiar with.
Well, she's very happy about that bridesmaid's dress, which I thought was a travesty.
The one she had to put back on.
I was like, did you not bring jammies?
But then she's like, it makes me feel pretty.
Does it?
It's not very flattering.
You're a beautiful woman.
Also, yeah, you're fucking gorgeous.
And you look terrible in it.
Yeah, she does look way better in a flannel shirt and jeans.
Yeah, just like bootcut jeans, too.
Of course.
Also, don't smoke in the house, Lived Tyler.
What are you doing?
What are you fucking doing?
Yeah.
Come on.
I mean, I guess you could just do that back then.
It was 2008.
It's not like it's in the 50s.
I probably smoked in my house in 2008.
Oh, word?
Yeah, in my apartment.
Yeah, I was definitely smoke.
in my apartment.
Okay.
Yeah.
Silently judging.
You're actually vocally judging.
You're actually vocally judging.
You just said it's not the 50s, which is pretty judging.
All the smokers are mad at me right now.
But also like Liv Tyler looks so beautiful smoking.
It's true.
So cool.
But then she does shit like leaning into a fireplace with her long hair dangling.
And I was like, what's you doing?
What's you doing, baby?
trying the ring on after he leaves.
Why does she do that?
Well, maybe, maybe I do love it.
Maybe I do want to get married.
Also, is she not allowed to talk about that volume?
No, this is all she can muster.
Oh, yeah.
Well, she's an elf.
Also, if you have to jam a ring onto your finger,
you're going to have to jam back off.
Don't.
Don't.
There was definitely butter used to get that ring back off her finger.
Oh, man.
Like, him going out.
for cigarettes and leaving her behind.
I guess the rationale being
he's upset.
You wanted to like clear his head, right?
Yeah. But like, you gotta
put that aside
because she unscrewed the fucking light bulbs
on the front porch.
But he's dumb.
Okay. He's very dumb.
He's Scott Speedman. He's Scott Speedman.
Felicity's boyfriend.
And then like Liv Tyler
goes to use her phone and the battery is
dead. Flip phones have a battery.
re-life of forever.
I don't buy for a moment that that battery was dead.
That's all.
You don't think she wasted it scrolling on Instagram?
No.
I don't recall ever charging my flip phone, you know?
It just was.
Yeah.
Well, again, she ran out of smokes.
She didn't charge her phone.
Why does he want to marry her anyway?
She's very unreliable.
She looks good in a pair of jeans and a flannel.
Wearing the bootcut jeans for days.
Another thing she does not do is put on shoes.
Infuriating.
Infuriating.
There is no situation in which you feel you might have to run away from someone and you're not like, I should put on shoes.
Listen, somebody knocks on your door at 4 o'clock in the morning.
You're not going to sleep, put on shoes.
Right.
That night is done. You've lost that night.
You're staying up all night.
She goes out several times before I realized that she didn't have shoes on.
What were you doing?
Speedman says, put your shoes on.
He does say put your shoes on.
And she's like, nah.
I'm good.
I'm just like an, you know, Earth child.
There's a real Natalie Merchant type.
Who were we just talking about that didn't wear?
Natalie Merchant.
Natalie Merchant.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Also, how many bottles of champagne did Scott Pes of Spine think they were going to go through?
There was at least three in the house.
I mean, rose petals, dude.
He was like, oh, fuck.
Ring, rose petals, marriage proposal, fuck fest on champagne.
Yeah.
I mean, he's not wrong.
They might have been planning to stay there the whole weekend.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Put a couple bottles in the fridge.
You don't have to leave them all out on ice.
Oh, no, were they out on ice?
Oh, Scott Speedman.
That's so wasteful.
Oh, Scott Speedman.
So I will say, like, right up front, the first half hour, 40 minutes of this movie, super tense.
Yeah, super tense.
I'm bugging out.
Yeah.
Like, Missy was like, I don't like this.
And I was like, yeah, no, that's good.
I mean, yeah, neither do I.
They're doing what they're, but they set out to two.
Yeah.
I feel like around the 40 minute mark, when he goes out to the barn, whenever that happens, it loses momentum.
That's after Dennis comes and gets shot in the face.
Okay.
So let's talk about that.
Yeah.
So Dennis, as he will be known.
I'm sorry.
Two ends, not one.
Not to be confused with Dennis with one end.
Hi, Dennis.
You Daryl Hall and John Oates fan.
You make my dreams come true.
Can we get an answer to that?
And we can bett a bum.
We can bed a bum.
So that's my legal advice.
Yeah.
Keep in mind.
Fun.
No nothing.
We think you can butt a bum.
So you're going to sue me for humming.
Maybe.
So Glenn Howardton, Dennis, shows up because Scott Spiebman has called him and been like, hey, man.
No.
Everything's Fubar.
Please come get me.
Yeah.
And like just come in the morning
But fucking Glenn Howardton
Good bud
It's like you know what I'm out there
Let's do this
Yeah
I'm drunk driving to where you are
Yeah
On country roads
Wait you were coming down on Saxon for it
In the last episode
Oh I'm not I'm not condoning it
So
But he has the
Single-Henely most honest reaction
To anything in this movie
What's that?
He pulls up to the house
Something flies through his window
he jumps out of the car and goes, the fuck?
Yeah.
Which is exactly what you would do.
Yeah.
However, he has his cell phone with him in the car, which we know because he has made a call.
Yeah.
We know his cell phone works.
It looks like the house has been broken into when he gets there.
Sure.
Call the fucking cops.
Don't just walk in.
Call the fucking cops.
Yeah, the car is smashed to shit.
Yes.
If I pull into your driveway and your car is smashed,
I'm on the phone with 911 telling them what county we're in.
You know what I mean?
Like, just no, no.
You're not listening.
What is the postal code?
I don't.
One five, something.
One five, two, something.
Do you have a sundial?
I don't.
I don't, sir.
It's dark.
Anyway.
When is it?
Where am I?
No, I called you.
really sending up 9-11 operators sorry about that it's a tough job i would never want to do it oh i would
never god bless him for doing it someone called i'd be like oh my god who did what
you got to get help man that that's literally why i'm calling you click running down oh oh oh i just got
the worst phone call oh he's probably not going to make it
Oh, I love this character.
You got to laugh in the face of tragedy.
Sorry.
We're a little loopy right now.
Yeah.
It's been a long night.
So, Glenn Harrington, Dennis, goes into the house,
and he wisely grabs a metal pole.
No, he should have called the cops he's going.
Sure.
But if you're going into a combat zone, weapon ice.
Yes.
Right, right, right.
He knows about the machete.
Grab the machete.
There is a loud skipping record happening.
Yeah, I thought that was a nice way to build tension.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Take that metal pole and smack the needle off that record.
Or just pick it up with your hand.
Smacking might be poison.
Sure.
And go, take the needle off the record and go, hey.
Hey, anybody.
Scott Speedman, are you in here?
Liv Taylor, are you in here?
It's Tyler!
You know, my dad's a dear oathouseman.
Wasn't she raised by Todd Rundgren, though?
Oh, I don't know.
I think she was.
I think her real name is Liv Rundgren.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think she was born of an affair with Stephen Taylor.
I'm committing to this.
This gag.
With the voluptuous lips that she's have, there's no way of, like, denying that.
Oh, that's not my baby.
Todd Rundgren was like, fuck.
I think he raised her though
I think he went on to raise her
Yeah
She came out screaming about toys in the attic
And he's like, son of a mother
So he goes in
Loud Music
And he walks up to a door
They're freaked out
Because obviously there's a home invasion
Right they've barricaded themselves
Which is exactly what you should do
I forgot to mention
The most terrifying scene in this movie
Happened earlier
When she's beautifully smoking
With the flannel and the jeans on
And staring at the camera
behind her out of darkness comes backhead man yeah sack man and just like comes into the frame
and stays there and i was like oh yeah yeah i don't like this at all i think the masks are very
very good for sure but just the the cockiness of like i don't have to hide from you yeah well i mean
their arrogance could have like failed in a lot of ways like every goddamn thing had to go right for
this to work sure it's kind of a
a weird risk.
Yeah, and I was getting very strong behind the mask vibes from this stuff.
Because they were like there and then not there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they had to be like, I was like, oh, good cardio.
You guys are really hustling.
Yeah.
But like, just the idea of, you know, I'm looking at one direction and there's just
fucking somebody standing behind me.
Yeah.
I hate that.
I feel like you'd know.
You're very, uh, scared.
I mean, I walk my dog at night and like,
the road that I walk in, it's a little bit dark.
There's, like, patches where, like, the street lights are far enough apart
that it will get dark between them.
And, like, I'll be walking and just be, like, behind me, behind me, behind me.
And we have a lot of, like, deer and raccoons and all this stuff.
Raccoons.
And baboons.
And baboons.
And raccoons.
And so there's constantly, like, shuffling and the foliage and stuff.
I'm just like, what?
I'm glad my street doesn't have trees.
Thanks, tree, Pittsburgh.
I'm glad I live in a desolate waistline.
Yeah.
This is a wasteland of little Italy days.
How dare you?
But no, I just, I look like,
there are things in this movie that are handled so fucking well,
and those things of just like, ugh, are handled.
So it's obvious whoever did this is scared of having their home and made it.
Oh, yeah.
They've definitely thought it through and had a lot of fears about it, for sure.
Lots of machetes.
Yeah.
or baseball bats those will work too um but yeah so so they're being really like blatant i guess
about yeah coming in and out of the house and like moving the smoke detector just like they're
not hiding and also scott speedman is like kind of being a dick about like i gotta be a big
man like i'm so glad i married a person who is also scared you know what i mean because if this was
happening to us he'd be like let's get the fuck out of it as sensible that's what i mean that's fine
I don't mean that
derogatorily to him at all,
but he would never be like,
well,
let's just step to them.
Like,
no.
Yeah,
like in us,
when he's out in the front,
like slapping the baseball bat in his hand.
Like, dog,
what are you doing?
Come on.
But yeah,
like,
Speedman is just all like,
uh,
she's like,
there's somebody in the house.
He's like,
no, there isn't.
Yeah.
There's nobody in the house.
He's like,
no,
they moved,
stole my fucking phone.
And your phone's just in your bag.
So dumb.
This is why she doesn't want to marry you,
Scott Speedman.
I was like, yo, if you don't believe me on the worst day of my fucking life, this is why I'm not marrying you, dog.
Right, right, right.
So yeah, my Glenn Hararton comes in, Dennis comes in, and they shoot him in the fucking face.
In that scene where he's like sort of creeping around very quietly, so I watched this movie in my office because I had a day where I was there all by myself.
So I'm sitting in my office.
My office is off like a main office, which is a suite off a hallway.
And I was watching it in my office.
and all of a sudden I heard someone tapping keys against the glass of our door and I let out a squeeze of pee.
I peed myself a little bit.
I feed myself a little bit and it was the maintenance guy being like, okay, get to fix that doork?
And I was like, what are you thinking?
It really scared me.
Do you know that I'm watching this?
No, you did.
No, you don't.
You probably thought I was doing financial advising because that's my job.
Oh my God.
But I wrote down.
Oh, my God.
God, man clanking off his window.
Just scared the shit out of me.
Oh, I peed.
Can I real quick mention the greatest crime that happens in this movie?
Sure.
Where people get murdered?
He pulls out that thing of Blue Bunny and just leaves it on the table to melt.
I know.
What are you thinking?
Can I tell you what another crime is in this movie?
We hear a dog yelp.
Yeah.
And then a moment later, he's like, I haven't heard a dog bark in the entire time we've been here.
Dude, I literally, the...
closed captioning just said it.
There's a lot of like,
this is our summer home where my parents live here around.
Yeah.
Like,
right.
This is a gun I don't know how to load.
Loads.
Like,
I would be so bummed if I went to get the gun and it was in pieces and I'm like,
I don't know.
I don't know.
I guess I'm going to throw it at him.
But he knew he,
but he was like,
I've never actually been hunting.
That's just the thing I said,
but also he put it together in seconds.
Also,
who the fuck lies about hunting?
It was just something that I said.
I kind of like.
that actually because it's like one of those stupid things you lie about and like why and then when
it comes back to by you you're like oh no like yeah i know how to read a map
hi i'm uh scott speedman i've been hunting scott speedman oh that sounds really great what's that
live toiler i said it sounds really great you're doing a great too could you just can you just i'm sorry
I'm a little hard of, could you just...
I'm literally screaming.
I'm sorry, could you write in my good ear?
I am literally yelling right now.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, Rex Manning Day.
But she's just like wandering in and out of the house.
She's not wearing shoes.
She like goes up.
She gets hurt.
She hurts herself.
She falls down and hurts her knee or something.
Which I appreciate that because, uh, pro tip,
don't just go running through a yard that you do not know the topography of.
Yeah, that's a good tip.
Often going to be ditches.
Gonna be ditches.
It's out in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah.
Houses in the middle of nowhere.
Ugh.
Did you think it was a weird choice for them to put the bridesmaids dress back on her?
A hundred percent.
Because they were like, they stripped her down.
Why?
Why did they put the bridesmaids?
And they didn't know it was there.
Like, I guess they did.
They've been watching, huh?
It's just weird.
I, like, had to put together why, like, they sort of, like, ritualized.
that aspect because they also put him back
and like I think they put the tie back on him or something
Oh I didn't even notice that
But it was like they each took a turn
stabbing them and then like later someone says
It'll be easier next time
So it was just like this ritualizing of it all
It was like really really weird and
Worked and didn't work I felt like
Why would you buy like just stab them?
You don't have to put a dress back on it
It doesn't add any impact to what's happening
Right
Why would they want her to be in the dress?
Right.
Also, why afterwards did they move the bodies?
Why do they leave her alive?
He does it on purpose.
Yeah.
Why?
To spread the tail maybe?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But it doesn't make any sense.
Because one of the scariest, I think probably the scariest part of this movie is that when they have Scott Speedman and Liv Taylor tied up to chairs, they take their masks off.
She sees them.
Yeah.
So when someone takes the mask off.
That's the oh fuck moment.
Yeah, because they're not going to leave you alive.
No.
But then they do.
Question marks?
Unless she like, I don't know, did, like, that kind of falls apart and I think it was just there for the jump scare at the end.
Yeah, I guess so.
But like, yeah, did she fake being dead?
No, he sees her.
He's dragging her, remember?
And then he just stops dragging her.
Isn't that what happened?
I don't remember them dragging.
Oh, maybe not.
Maybe he drags her and then she wakes up.
Well, there are two cuts of this film and one of them has two extra minutes.
It's two minutes longer.
I watched the unrated version.
That's what I think I watched too.
Okay.
I had seen this movie in the movie theater, but I don't remember anything that was added.
I mean, I saw it 11 years ago when it came out, so I don't know.
I don't remember what was added or anything.
Yeah, I mean, there was nothing like, because the tag for the unrated is like,
the too terrifying to show in theaters.
And I was like, no, there's nothing too terrifying to.
Was it the smoking?
Did you get the smoking out initially?
The waste of the ice cream.
Those are very intense things.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I jumped right from Dennis getting shot too
to the end of the movie.
No, but yeah, it's like...
It gets chasey.
They're chasing around.
Exactly.
And I think that's when it loses momentum.
Yeah, I agree.
Because they are...
They become almost superhuman.
Yeah.
Like, why didn't they smell?
smash the radio ahead of time.
Why would you leave that option open?
That's what I'm saying.
They're taking so many risks.
Yeah.
And it's stupid because if you thought out this,
but then again, they didn't think it out because they're like, well, why are you doing
this dust because you were home?
Yeah.
So that means it's just, I knocked on your door and you were there.
Right.
They hadn't, like, cased the place at all.
They should have just boned.
They should have just kept boning.
No, that's what was happening when they were getting knocked.
Oh, no.
They should just never, if they had never opened the door, they'd, they'd,
would have been okay.
Sorry,
can't come to the door.
Fucking.
Fucking right now.
Have you ever seen
Michael Henneke's
funny games?
No.
I know we've talked about it.
This movie is like
very similar.
Okay.
Thematically to that.
Yeah.
Of the sort of like
the,
you know,
the malaise of the
like
closed off areas
where you're going to go to
and there's not anybody there
to help you.
and you sort of like
and like this movie sort of has a feel of like
they are you know upper class people that are coming to this not so
upper class area and like being murdered by people who are obviously not of that
same class so there's like a little class conflict going on
what do you mean obviously not of that same class?
Well there's like three people in a pickup truck at the end of the movie like driving away
that gives it like kind of that like well these are rural folk and you're city folk and like
I got a little bit of that but they're also dressed like hipsters which especially of the
time like a mid-tube
2000's woman wearing like a baby doll dress over jeans.
Like it felt very like, I don't know, like urban outfitters.
Yeah, yeah.
But it also felt very costuming.
Like his suit almost looked like a tuxedo that you would buy at Goodwill or something like that.
Okay, okay, okay.
And I didn't know if that's what they were going.
Like, yeah.
Again, I might be doing that thing where I put way more the thing on something than what's happening.
Well, it's certainly a critique of.
living in the middle nowhere, as all of these goddamn movies are.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I do love that they, like, they take cell phones out of the equation,
they just steal them and smash them.
Yeah.
Which is really great.
It's really effective and adds to that, like, you know, we're so relying on that now.
Yeah.
Like, even if, you know, I have a phone line in my house and if that goes down,
there's still fucking satellites.
Right.
For sure.
Yeah, and cell phone towers and all that shit.
Yeah, cell phones really ruin.
movies now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's why
everything is still set
in the 80s.
I know.
Rob got really
mad about the
Home Alone remake
because he was like,
the whole thing falls
apart with cell phones.
And it really does.
It really does.
It's like how
every Seinfeld episode
could have just
been solved with a cell phone.
Sure.
Yeah.
Or a Post-it note.
Yeah.
That too.
It's a bummer that,
like,
it's a bummer that it
loses that momentum
and that terror factor,
but I don't think
you can maintain that
for an entire movie.
No.
No,
and it gets right.
into it too. That woman shows up at the door very early on.
Yeah. It has to. You can't have these people just like sitting around being sad for too long.
But I, in my memory of seeing it in the movie theater, I remember feeling very tense the entire time.
And also like I remembered a very scary scene in my mind of Liv Taylor in a very quiet room and then the record kicks on, which I think happens in this.
Yeah.
But it like wasn't as, it was not scary this time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which was disappointing to me.
And it's weird too because it's, uh, it's mama tried by Whalen Jennings.
Yeah.
And you're just like, that weird choice.
Like they're having this sad breakup and he just goes over to the, or not even a sad breakup.
This sad like, what do we do now?
Where do we go from here?
And he just like goes over and puts on like a weird country record.
Like I just, it doesn't seem right.
He doesn't seem like a weird country record kind of guy.
Scott Speedman.
No, Speedman does not.
Live Tyler in that like 2008 hip.
maybe I like Alt Country,
I'm going to throw in some wailing.
What a weird time,
10 years ago.
It's so crazy that 2008 was 10 years ago.
11, buddy.
11 years.
I watched this movie at the movie theater
and then walked back to my apartment.
And it was very scary.
It sounds spooky.
It was spooky.
Especially because if you remember my old apartment,
you had to walk through that little narrow alleyway
to get to the back door.
It was very spooky.
I remember not wanting to go in there.
When I told Rob we were doing this movie, he was like, he said in a very small voice, I'm not going to watch that with you.
I'm not going to watch that with you.
And I was like, live Taylor, when did I marry you?
Congrats.
Yeah.
We're very happy.
I'm very rich.
So they kill Speedman and ostensibly Taylor.
Sorry.
I have it stabs the Speedman, stabs the Tyler man.
the Mormon kids come back
He said
The key
They pull over to them
They pull over to them
And the kid goes
Are you a sinner
Kids sometimes
We're all fucking sinners
You little shit
Every religion teaches that
So weird
Yeah
That's the ones that the Mormons are out there
Prostalotizing for sure
Yeah and that's when we get the
It'll be easier next timeline
And they drive away
And I wanted him to yell
yeha as they were going away.
And you never see their faces.
They take off their masks, but we don't see them.
Right.
What do you think of that?
I liked it.
Did you like that?
Yeah.
Because it kept them as just like faceless murders.
Because even when she came to the door, she was in total darkness, so we never saw her face.
Right.
Which sets it up for the strangers, pray at night.
Oh, there's another one?
There's a deuce.
When did that happen?
A few years ago, I think.
Oh my God.
Did you watch it?
No.
No.
No.
Should we?
No.
No.
This is not going to be a
Poltergeist, Poltergeist
Situation.
Oh, man.
Back to Baxies.
Or what else?
Puppet Master.
Why did we do that?
That one was a lot more fun than
Poltergeist, too.
Yeah.
Puppet Master is fun.
Poldergeist 2 is a drop off.
It was a new good.
So, yeah, the Mormon kids go into the house.
Liv Diler is alive.
That's your jump scare at the end of the movie.
Those kids are so brave.
They're brave as fuck going into that house and, like,
touching her.
I would not.
You walk in, you see blood on the door, and you're like, yeah, I need an adult.
Yeah, I need an adult.
I'm 45 and I need an adult now.
So, Katie, I have a question for you.
Yeah.
Do you want to get on the ratings space?
I'm sorry, what?
Do you want to go to the ratings space?
I can't.
Do you want to go to the rating space?
Sure.
Why don't you go first?
If this movie stops at the 40-minute mark, I fucking love it.
I'm so tense, I'm scared.
I'm just like, I don't like this.
in a good way and also in a not good way.
Okay.
Which is what this movie should be giving me.
Yeah.
By the end of the movie, I was like, oh, I don't care if these people are dead.
Because they get making such bad choices?
Like when she's sitting outside with her head and her hands and you're like, why are you
covering your face?
You know they're bad guys.
Maybe keep your eyes open.
Keep at all times.
Yeah.
It's just, it's just, they thought that, or it seemed to me that they thought that, like, oh,
they're in a rocky relationship was enough, like backstory to make me like these people.
And like I just don't know enough about them that when like they have this kind of anticlimactic death.
Yeah.
Just like, uh, in the tummy and you're gone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not that I'm like, oh, should be way more gory or whatever, but it just didn't have any like,
it wasn't, the build was not to that part.
Yeah.
It had already built and.
Crescended, I guess.
Yeah, crescendoed, I guess.
Climaxed into the vortex.
And I'm maybe chocolate.
up to direction in the movie because it just didn't have that like umph that it should have had.
I don't know what you could.
I was going to say I don't know what you could do, but then I remember hush.
And while I don't remember the specifics of it, I remember it being very scary the whole
way through.
Sure.
Which was a similar situation except with the, you know, added difficulty of being deaf.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's even similar like somebody shows up that wasn't there initially and they get
killed and blah, blah, blah, blah, like all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
They bring in Dennis.
Dennis gets killed.
Like, I don't know.
They should have marry a.
netted Dennis's body around or something.
So I'm going to give this movie a 6.5.
All right.
What about you?
When I saw it in the movie theater 11 years ago, I was really scared.
I thought it was a really scary movie.
I was scared the whole way through.
And when it ended, I was like, and I was scared to walk home.
And that's like a really good scare, right?
When you're scared to walk home.
So I don't know if it was like having seen it before and knowing that it was going to do
this thing where it's just going to be like them chasing her around a house basically.
Yeah.
But I didn't, or maybe I was watching it in my office.
I don't know.
But it did cause me to pee.
I don't, I think it's, I think it's fine.
I think you should watch it if you haven't seen it.
Sure.
I'm going to give it a 6.5 as well.
Okay.
It's, uh, it's definitely trying and it's definitely trying like in all the right ways.
Like nobody gave up on this movie.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, I think with a little bit more polishing, it could have been as good as like
something like hush or something like that. I'm just trying to think what they could have done between
like Dennis getting shot and the end of the movie to keep the tension. Well, yeah, for sure.
Like, I think, I mean, I think you could have even stretched out the like climactic murder scene and
made it a little bit more tense. Yeah. There was no like, there was no tension. It was just like,
oh, they're just going to stab in there. Yeah, like maybe one of them gets away for a minute or something.
And I don't know if that's, you know, knowing that like, in a murder scenario,
if the mask gets taken off, you're done.
Yeah.
I thought that was really scary.
For sure.
Yeah.
But I think that's knowing, you know, true crime type stuff that like, if you see your
killer's face, we're done.
You're done.
So it's, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know what they could have done to make it better.
That's why I don't make movies.
Mm-hmm.
I'm fun.
I don't know nothing.
Fun?
I know nothing.
I know literally nothing.
Katie.
Alan.
I'd like to take you to a little place that we both like to call mailback.
Yay.
This is a email that we received from friend of the podcast, Rachel.
Hi, Rachel.
She says, hi, Katie and Alan.
Hi, Rachel.
I already said it.
I guess I'll say it again.
I'm Rachel, and I hail from Florida.
I'm sorry, Rachel.
You're a swamp person.
Just kidding.
I'm sure you're great.
She's not a swap person.
She's a huge horror nerd and found our podcast last year.
Aw.
Since then, I've gone back through old episodes and started from the beginning.
Sorry about that shit.
Sorry about everything Alan said in episode four, A Nightmare on Elm Street.
And the theme song was a little long in the beginning.
I apologize.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like, why did we need 45 seconds of theme song?
I wrote it.
I was just so proud.
Oh, it's good.
It's very good.
But then you didn't add that to it until later, too.
That popped in later.
Yeah, I like that.
It's been so much fun listening to the evolution of the podcast and so many amazing episodes.
I just wanted to write and say what a delightful show you have.
Your humor and contagious laughter resonates with your listeners and personally makes my work date,
gym day, and every day so much better.
Oh, Rachel.
I'm sorry, I called you a swamp person.
Thank you for making such a wonderful show on my favorite subject.
Cheesy fun, nostalgic 80s and 90s are.
Sure, there are some 70s and a otts thrown in there too.
I've done a lot of otts.
Sorry about that.
There's a lot to make fun of.
Oh, yeah.
It's just a content goldmine.
But she goes on to give us some suggestions for movies and stuff and says,
all my best for Rachel.
Oh, Rachel, thank you so much.
Thanks for reaching out.
And, like, you don't have to do that.
It's so nice when people just, like, take a fucking minute to tell you they appreciate
something because it really does make us feel awesome.
Alan was having a shit day.
It worked the day that we got that email and turned it around a little for him.
Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nice to be nice.
It's nice to be nice.
It's better than knowing things, I would say.
I'm nice, fun, and I don't know.
anything. That's really cool. I like that a lot and that's the kind of friends that everybody
should have. Nice, fun, fucking, dumb as a bag of wet hair. I don't think you are that. You just don't
know facts. I don't know facts either. I know even fewer than you do. Well, I have a fact that I'd
like to tell you. Yeah. We're doing another movie. What's it going to be? It's going to be the
Tony Catane vehicle, witchboard. I'm just...
so excited. Alan tried to pull this out a couple weeks ago and I was like, how about we don't?
How about we do Mandy instead? But here we are. Yeah, because I begged. I begged for it.
He did beg. I didn't make him, but he did. Because I think what I'm hoping for is a mausoleum-like
experience. Oh, good, good, good, good. I don't think we're going to get quite there, but it's pretty
fucking ridiculous. It's the same era too, huh? Yeah, around the same time. And Tony contains voluminous
hair is in this movie. I do love big hair. Yeah. You might know her as the star of
White Snake videos. I do. I do know her as that. And this, it can be found for free on Amazon Prime.
Yep. Great. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, there may be a companion episode to this episode on
our YouTube. It may be our first one. It may not be there. We don't know yet.
We have to figure out how to edit it and post it. Yeah. I can figure out how to post it.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'll talk to you about editing it later. We've had a couple of people
reach out and say they can help with editing as well.
So we'll see what happens.
I think it won't be that hard.
I don't think it'll be okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So is it where will famelance at YouTube?
At YouTube.
What the fuck do I know about it?
Wherewell familence at YouTube.com.
I'm fun.
I don't know anything.
Yeah.
I actually don't know.
We'll post links.
Well,
the thing is when you have a Gmail account,
you like automatically have a YouTube account.
So I just went in and changed our pictures.
And I said, this is our account.
I like it.
So.
I think, I don't know, guys.
I'm fun and nice and I don't know a damn thing.
It's empty-headed.
Just one lone hammer, banging around in my head.
It's actually like, the sad thing is, too,
it's like one of those little toy hammers
that comes with a toy tool set.
Sure.
It's not even doing any damage.
A toy set that never has any nails.
No, why would they give you nails?
It's all screws in, but you got the hammer, just in case.
Is that not how you get screws in?
I don't know these things.
So, yeah, keep an eye after that.
We'll post links in that stuff.
Maybe. Maybe we will.
We got to figure it out.
We bought this four-by-six banner.
Oh, my God.
You guys have to see this banner.
You have to see it.
So thanks for listening to another episode of Werewolf Ambulance.
Bye.
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