Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Re-release- The Strangers (2008)

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Katie. Alan. Happy Rex Manning Day. No, we must not be sad. Not on Rex Manning Day. This may be the only opportunity to ever get... No, we're going to do that movie. Oh my God, I love that movie.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I've seen it as an adult. You don't have to tell me it doesn't hold up. It does to me. I watched it not too long ago. So good. It's so bad. There's no plot. What's the guy that's in Can Hardly Wait in that movie?
Starting point is 00:00:37 Ethan Embry. He is great in both those movies. He's great in both those movies. I wanted to marry his character from Can Hardly Wait when I was 15 years old. A little problematic later on in life. Really? Oh, there's the whole thing like, I wrote you a letter. Why don't you love me?
Starting point is 00:00:52 The whole aspect of that movie. Yeah. Which also reminds me, I've been hitting the replacement so fucking hard recently. God, I love the replacements. Yeah, if you've never gone down the replacements road, give a shot. Just get down there. Just get down there and roll around. Yeah, pleased to meet me.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Great record. Please to meet me such a great record. Let it be. Love that record. Even Tim. Tim. Great record. If you like a little bit more punk rock, go with stink, there's just a lot of options out there.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You just have so much out there. This is our episode about the replacement. Thanks Paul Westerberg for joining us. That would be weird. It would be weird. I'm glad he's not here. I don't want to talk to him. We still have not had a guest where we're actually talking to someone about a thing they did.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Oh, we did it to some Burry massacre. That's right. Yeah. We did that once then. We did that once. And it was a little bit weird. That's not our thing. our thing. We haven't had a guest in a long time, have we?
Starting point is 00:01:43 No. Katie, Rex Manning Day, not as fun as I remember it being. The Strangers or Empire Records? The Strangers. You remembered this movie being fun. No. Okay, let's back up the trucks. I'd never seen this movie before. You've never seen this movie before.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It's my first time. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk to me about your feelings on it. So, it's got Scott Speedman in it. I forgot. I was going to open this episode by saying Scott Speedman. It didn't. You didn't. It's going to be hard for them to sync up. Scott Speedman, live Tyler.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And then other than Glenn Howardton, no one I've ever heard of before. Dennis, I forgot Dennis was in this movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there are very few actors in this movie there, to be fair. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I love the opening based on true events. I love when people lie about that at the beginning of movies. It wasn't this just like basically about the Manson family murders? Basically there was like a couple other murders that they were referencing. Yeah. Which like once you start like, you know, Texas chainsaw massacres like Ed Gain and all that stuff, like I'd rather you just lie and say it was based on stuff and don't tell me what you're basing it on because then it becomes like, oh, that stuff's gross. Yeah, right. That's a real people that really died.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is not at all what happened in the Manson murder. No. No. But anyway. You hate the idea of a home invasion. This is a big scare for you.
Starting point is 00:03:11 It's the only thing that still scares me. That's not true. In horror movie. It's like a horror genre trope. I was going to say like, what if a wolf was chasing you down the street? You'd be fucking pooping yourself. Yeah, but that's a lot less likely than someone breaking into my house to murder me.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Strongly disagree. Wolves are getting pushed out of the wilderness. Are there wolves? Coyotes. That's right. You did tell me that. Yeah, we have, okay. I don't think they're in city limits yet, but they're in Washington County.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Everybody's moving out of the suburbs into the cities. Gentrifying this shit. Including coyotes. Coyotes. I saw a coyote out of Tassadour the other day. I had a tassadour the other day. I was like... His hair was perfect. Skinny jeans so tight.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah. But they have to wear two pairs of skinny jeans. Let's discuss. So, this is the tale of woe. Of James and Kristen on the night that James asked Kristen to marry him. And she says, a no. Here's a thing. I don't think you should ask someone to marry you if you have not previously discussed getting married.
Starting point is 00:04:17 It should never be a shock. A surprise? Fine. But, like, to have to think about it, I think no one should get themselves into that situation. Also, super tacky to do it at somebody else's writing. I strongly agree. Were you going to steal their fucking day? Come on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Come on, Speedman. Come on. So the movie opens on Mormons. Yeah. Yeah. Who find, like, it's, it's, the time flips that happen in this movie are real weird. How do you mean? Well, like, it opens on the ending of the movie.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah. Of the two kids finding the murder scene. Yeah, and like a 911 call. Yeah. In which 911 operators are much nicer in movies than they are in real life. It's true. I get fucking yelled out by a 911 operator. Recently?
Starting point is 00:05:06 In the last year, two years and a half. Yeah. sucked. I can't, yeah. Yeah. I was calling to report what I believed to be a crime because a woman came running down the street screaming, someone's chasing me. And so I called 911 and I was like, uh, blah, blah, blah, like explaining what was
Starting point is 00:05:24 happening. And the guy was like, you're not listening. What county are you in? I was like, you fucking know what county I'm in. This is, isn't there a GPS for this shit? There's a big board where the red light of my phone comes up. Right. I mean, I'm in the middle of a city.
Starting point is 00:05:37 You know where I'm in the city. am. What county are you in? I was like, I don't know. Allegheny. I'm sorry. Did I call the past? You know where the fuck I am.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You know where the fuck I am. If Google knows that I was at Arby's, literally every time I go to the park across the street from Arby's, which I go to a lot with my child, Google's like, how was Arby's? I'm like, fuck off. If Instagram knows that I was talking about Ruggables? Yeah, man, Ruggables is the worst. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Missy told me Oh, Ruggables. I looked at it once. Now I fucking everything I look at is Ruggables. Hey, EMTs, go check your Instagram. You got ads for Ruggables now. Sorry, we did it to you. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Alexa. Alexa, search Ruggables. Alexa, tell the 911 operator what county I'm in. Oh God, don't do that, Alexa. Alexa. Alexa. Jesus. Some people are so mad at us right now.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Not people with a Google Home, though. I don't have any of these things. things and yet everything is still listening to me except that 911 operator so yeah and then we cut to the worst night of Scott Speedman's life because Lib Tyler said no yeah and he'd already filled the home with rose petals which is like kind of the thing about that is that like someone has to clean those up when was he going to do it there's a lot of rose petals yeah it's gross yeah and then she still gets in the bathtub with them I was like that's gauche don't you think She still got into the bathtub after all that rust water came out too.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yeah, let it run. Also, this is supposed to be a summer home, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's obviously Scott Speedman's childhood home. Or at least a home that they went to, yeah, when he was a child, yeah. But, like, there was so much, like, I don't know, I've never had a second house. No. Do you fill that with all your stuff as well?
Starting point is 00:07:31 I don't know. But he does angrily check the mail, which I like when they first got there, which is like just a weird little. little thing of him just like checking the mailbox and then slamming it shut. Who's sending mail to your summer home? Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot that falls apart of the summer home aspect because it doesn't seem like
Starting point is 00:07:49 it's in a summery place. I don't know. It's just like on the side of the road. Yeah. They pass a lake, but go by for a while. Yeah, it seems like you can get better property if you're Scott Sweetman's parents. Especially with that big ass barn. What were they doing with the barn?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Living in it? Yeah. Using the radio? Who were they radioing? Why was there a radio in the barn? Are there radios in barn? I've never been in a barn. Yeah, man, you're just going to go out there
Starting point is 00:08:12 and ham radioed up, talk to people, talk to truckers on the highways. Oh, it was a recreational radio. Not like a rescue radio. A rec ray, not a rest ray. I'm not in radios. I'm fun. I don't know things.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I hope someone gets that as a tattoo. Please don't. Please, please, please, please, please, please. I was thinking the other day that I'd need to get a tattoo. to wear a ambulance tattoo because I don't want someone to get one before I do.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Not that I think anyone's going to but I just was like, what is somebody he does? I don't want to be the one who doesn't, I don't want to be the second werewolf ambulance tattoo. Alan just threw down the gauntlet.
Starting point is 00:08:49 He's got to get one before you do. So they're in a fight. No, they're not in a fight. They're just in an uncomfortable space. It's very sad. And then they start fucking. Yeah, and then they stop fucking. Because there's a knock at the door
Starting point is 00:09:04 at four o'clock in the fucking morning. Right. Abandon ship. Yeah. You got to go. You got to go. There's so many opportunities to fix this situation that they don't take. You at least have to run around the house and lock all the fucking doors and windows.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I would just get in the car and leave. Honestly, I would. Yeah. Honestly, I would. Yeah, just go get a fucking hotel. Yeah. You got 50 bucks. There was a wedding not that far away, so there's a hotel somewhere, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:31 So here's a question. Because I am terrified of this happening, have I thought of contingency plans that normal people have not fun? of. Yeah. Okay. Right. I guess so, yeah. I mean, yes, I have machetes around my house for tactical reasons.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You know that's not normal. You know that. It's also weird that you hung those paint cans up on the ceiling and your stairs. I think you should take those down. I never know when the fucking wet bandit's going to work in. I just feel like someday they're going to slip. Hit me right in my teeth. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Sorry about the hot doorknob. There was a hot door knob in last week's movie. I forgot to bring it up. Sorry. There was so much we forgot to bring up in the last week's movie. Do you think he opened that door with a boner because he definitely had a boner
Starting point is 00:10:16 and he just opens the door. Like that's the thing I also don't believe you do is open the door with a boner. Here's a thing. Yeah. As a haver of a boner? Right now? No.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Thank God. With the capabilities. Someone knocks on your door at 4 a.m. You don't have a boner anymore. That fast. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. As a person who's never had a boner,
Starting point is 00:10:33 I didn't know that. I didn't know that Then he leaves and just throws a bottle of champagne in the front yard Why? Let someone else drink that Also, as a friend If we're somewhere and you run out of smokes I'm not leaving you alone after someone knocked on the door at 4 o'clock in the fucking morning
Starting point is 00:10:58 I know Also, he nonchalantly screws the light bulbs back in Yeah So at that point it was like, oh, Speedman's in on it. Did you think so? Yeah. Interesting. I just think he's a dumb, dumb, dumb, dummy, which I guess it turns out he is.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But how do you screw the lightballs back in? Because you're going to remember the lights were on when you came into the fucking house. So that woman unscrewed those light bulbs. Right. She had to have. And not go, well, I need to get the machete that's hiding behind that door. And now I'm going to have to kill people. You just slip back into Allen.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You left Scott Speedman, you're back into Allen. But that's like, if you're like, oh, Oh, these light bulbs came unscrued while she was knocking on the door. Yeah. Old houses. Also, like, why didn't you get more smokes on the way to the wedding? You were going to a wedding. You're going to need all them smokes.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of life choices that Liv Tyler's made in this movie that I'm just not too familiar with. Well, she's very happy about that bridesmaid's dress, which I thought was a travesty. The one she had to put back on. I was like, did you not bring jammies? But then she's like, it makes me feel pretty.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Does it? It's not very flattering. You're a beautiful woman. Also, yeah, you're fucking gorgeous. And you look terrible in it. Yeah, she does look way better in a flannel shirt and jeans. Yeah, just like bootcut jeans, too. Of course.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Also, don't smoke in the house, Lived Tyler. What are you doing? What are you fucking doing? Yeah. Come on. I mean, I guess you could just do that back then. It was 2008. It's not like it's in the 50s.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I probably smoked in my house in 2008. Oh, word? Yeah, in my apartment. Yeah, I was definitely smoke. in my apartment. Okay. Yeah. Silently judging.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You're actually vocally judging. You're actually vocally judging. You just said it's not the 50s, which is pretty judging. All the smokers are mad at me right now. But also like Liv Tyler looks so beautiful smoking. It's true. So cool. But then she does shit like leaning into a fireplace with her long hair dangling.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I was like, what's you doing? What's you doing, baby? trying the ring on after he leaves. Why does she do that? Well, maybe, maybe I do love it. Maybe I do want to get married. Also, is she not allowed to talk about that volume? No, this is all she can muster.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Oh, yeah. Well, she's an elf. Also, if you have to jam a ring onto your finger, you're going to have to jam back off. Don't. Don't. There was definitely butter used to get that ring back off her finger. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Like, him going out. for cigarettes and leaving her behind. I guess the rationale being he's upset. You wanted to like clear his head, right? Yeah. But like, you gotta put that aside because she unscrewed the fucking light bulbs
Starting point is 00:13:44 on the front porch. But he's dumb. Okay. He's very dumb. He's Scott Speedman. He's Scott Speedman. Felicity's boyfriend. And then like Liv Tyler goes to use her phone and the battery is dead. Flip phones have a battery.
Starting point is 00:14:01 re-life of forever. I don't buy for a moment that that battery was dead. That's all. You don't think she wasted it scrolling on Instagram? No. I don't recall ever charging my flip phone, you know? It just was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Well, again, she ran out of smokes. She didn't charge her phone. Why does he want to marry her anyway? She's very unreliable. She looks good in a pair of jeans and a flannel. Wearing the bootcut jeans for days. Another thing she does not do is put on shoes. Infuriating.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Infuriating. There is no situation in which you feel you might have to run away from someone and you're not like, I should put on shoes. Listen, somebody knocks on your door at 4 o'clock in the morning. You're not going to sleep, put on shoes. Right. That night is done. You've lost that night. You're staying up all night. She goes out several times before I realized that she didn't have shoes on.
Starting point is 00:14:54 What were you doing? Speedman says, put your shoes on. He does say put your shoes on. And she's like, nah. I'm good. I'm just like an, you know, Earth child. There's a real Natalie Merchant type. Who were we just talking about that didn't wear?
Starting point is 00:15:07 Natalie Merchant. Natalie Merchant. Okay. Gotcha. Also, how many bottles of champagne did Scott Pes of Spine think they were going to go through? There was at least three in the house. I mean, rose petals, dude. He was like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Ring, rose petals, marriage proposal, fuck fest on champagne. Yeah. I mean, he's not wrong. They might have been planning to stay there the whole weekend. I don't know. Yeah. Put a couple bottles in the fridge. You don't have to leave them all out on ice.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Oh, no, were they out on ice? Oh, Scott Speedman. That's so wasteful. Oh, Scott Speedman. So I will say, like, right up front, the first half hour, 40 minutes of this movie, super tense. Yeah, super tense. I'm bugging out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Like, Missy was like, I don't like this. And I was like, yeah, no, that's good. I mean, yeah, neither do I. They're doing what they're, but they set out to two. Yeah. I feel like around the 40 minute mark, when he goes out to the barn, whenever that happens, it loses momentum. That's after Dennis comes and gets shot in the face. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So let's talk about that. Yeah. So Dennis, as he will be known. I'm sorry. Two ends, not one. Not to be confused with Dennis with one end. Hi, Dennis. You Daryl Hall and John Oates fan.
Starting point is 00:16:27 You make my dreams come true. Can we get an answer to that? And we can bett a bum. We can bed a bum. So that's my legal advice. Yeah. Keep in mind. Fun.
Starting point is 00:16:39 No nothing. We think you can butt a bum. So you're going to sue me for humming. Maybe. So Glenn Howardton, Dennis, shows up because Scott Spiebman has called him and been like, hey, man. No. Everything's Fubar. Please come get me.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah. And like just come in the morning But fucking Glenn Howardton Good bud It's like you know what I'm out there Let's do this Yeah I'm drunk driving to where you are
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah On country roads Wait you were coming down on Saxon for it In the last episode Oh I'm not I'm not condoning it So But he has the Single-Henely most honest reaction
Starting point is 00:17:23 To anything in this movie What's that? He pulls up to the house Something flies through his window he jumps out of the car and goes, the fuck? Yeah. Which is exactly what you would do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:34 However, he has his cell phone with him in the car, which we know because he has made a call. Yeah. We know his cell phone works. It looks like the house has been broken into when he gets there. Sure. Call the fucking cops. Don't just walk in. Call the fucking cops.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah, the car is smashed to shit. Yes. If I pull into your driveway and your car is smashed, I'm on the phone with 911 telling them what county we're in. You know what I mean? Like, just no, no. You're not listening. What is the postal code?
Starting point is 00:18:07 I don't. One five, something. One five, two, something. Do you have a sundial? I don't. I don't, sir. It's dark. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:19 When is it? Where am I? No, I called you. really sending up 9-11 operators sorry about that it's a tough job i would never want to do it oh i would never god bless him for doing it someone called i'd be like oh my god who did what you got to get help man that that's literally why i'm calling you click running down oh oh oh i just got the worst phone call oh he's probably not going to make it Oh, I love this character.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You got to laugh in the face of tragedy. Sorry. We're a little loopy right now. Yeah. It's been a long night. So, Glenn Harrington, Dennis, goes into the house, and he wisely grabs a metal pole. No, he should have called the cops he's going.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Sure. But if you're going into a combat zone, weapon ice. Yes. Right, right, right. He knows about the machete. Grab the machete. There is a loud skipping record happening. Yeah, I thought that was a nice way to build tension.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take that metal pole and smack the needle off that record. Or just pick it up with your hand. Smacking might be poison. Sure. And go, take the needle off the record and go, hey. Hey, anybody. Scott Speedman, are you in here?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Liv Taylor, are you in here? It's Tyler! You know, my dad's a dear oathouseman. Wasn't she raised by Todd Rundgren, though? Oh, I don't know. I think she was. I think her real name is Liv Rundgren. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah. I think she was born of an affair with Stephen Taylor. I'm committing to this. This gag. With the voluptuous lips that she's have, there's no way of, like, denying that. Oh, that's not my baby. Todd Rundgren was like, fuck. I think he raised her though
Starting point is 00:20:33 I think he went on to raise her Yeah She came out screaming about toys in the attic And he's like, son of a mother So he goes in Loud Music And he walks up to a door They're freaked out
Starting point is 00:20:46 Because obviously there's a home invasion Right they've barricaded themselves Which is exactly what you should do I forgot to mention The most terrifying scene in this movie Happened earlier When she's beautifully smoking With the flannel and the jeans on
Starting point is 00:20:58 And staring at the camera behind her out of darkness comes backhead man yeah sack man and just like comes into the frame and stays there and i was like oh yeah yeah i don't like this at all i think the masks are very very good for sure but just the the cockiness of like i don't have to hide from you yeah well i mean their arrogance could have like failed in a lot of ways like every goddamn thing had to go right for this to work sure it's kind of a a weird risk. Yeah, and I was getting very strong behind the mask vibes from this stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Because they were like there and then not there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they had to be like, I was like, oh, good cardio. You guys are really hustling. Yeah. But like, just the idea of, you know, I'm looking at one direction and there's just fucking somebody standing behind me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I hate that. I feel like you'd know. You're very, uh, scared. I mean, I walk my dog at night and like, the road that I walk in, it's a little bit dark. There's, like, patches where, like, the street lights are far enough apart that it will get dark between them. And, like, I'll be walking and just be, like, behind me, behind me, behind me.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And we have a lot of, like, deer and raccoons and all this stuff. Raccoons. And baboons. And baboons. And raccoons. And so there's constantly, like, shuffling and the foliage and stuff. I'm just like, what? I'm glad my street doesn't have trees.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Thanks, tree, Pittsburgh. I'm glad I live in a desolate waistline. Yeah. This is a wasteland of little Italy days. How dare you? But no, I just, I look like, there are things in this movie that are handled so fucking well, and those things of just like, ugh, are handled.
Starting point is 00:22:48 So it's obvious whoever did this is scared of having their home and made it. Oh, yeah. They've definitely thought it through and had a lot of fears about it, for sure. Lots of machetes. Yeah. or baseball bats those will work too um but yeah so so they're being really like blatant i guess about yeah coming in and out of the house and like moving the smoke detector just like they're not hiding and also scott speedman is like kind of being a dick about like i gotta be a big
Starting point is 00:23:18 man like i'm so glad i married a person who is also scared you know what i mean because if this was happening to us he'd be like let's get the fuck out of it as sensible that's what i mean that's fine I don't mean that derogatorily to him at all, but he would never be like, well, let's just step to them. Like,
Starting point is 00:23:35 no. Yeah, like in us, when he's out in the front, like slapping the baseball bat in his hand. Like, dog, what are you doing? Come on.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But yeah, like, Speedman is just all like, uh, she's like, there's somebody in the house. He's like, no, there isn't.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah. There's nobody in the house. He's like, no, they moved, stole my fucking phone. And your phone's just in your bag. So dumb.
Starting point is 00:23:56 This is why she doesn't want to marry you, Scott Speedman. I was like, yo, if you don't believe me on the worst day of my fucking life, this is why I'm not marrying you, dog. Right, right, right. So yeah, my Glenn Hararton comes in, Dennis comes in, and they shoot him in the fucking face. In that scene where he's like sort of creeping around very quietly, so I watched this movie in my office because I had a day where I was there all by myself. So I'm sitting in my office. My office is off like a main office, which is a suite off a hallway.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And I was watching it in my office. and all of a sudden I heard someone tapping keys against the glass of our door and I let out a squeeze of pee. I peed myself a little bit. I feed myself a little bit and it was the maintenance guy being like, okay, get to fix that doork? And I was like, what are you thinking? It really scared me. Do you know that I'm watching this? No, you did.
Starting point is 00:24:50 No, you don't. You probably thought I was doing financial advising because that's my job. Oh my God. But I wrote down. Oh, my God. God, man clanking off his window. Just scared the shit out of me. Oh, I peed.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Can I real quick mention the greatest crime that happens in this movie? Sure. Where people get murdered? He pulls out that thing of Blue Bunny and just leaves it on the table to melt. I know. What are you thinking? Can I tell you what another crime is in this movie? We hear a dog yelp.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah. And then a moment later, he's like, I haven't heard a dog bark in the entire time we've been here. Dude, I literally, the... closed captioning just said it. There's a lot of like, this is our summer home where my parents live here around. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:25:36 right. This is a gun I don't know how to load. Loads. Like, I would be so bummed if I went to get the gun and it was in pieces and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I guess I'm going to throw it at him.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But he knew he, but he was like, I've never actually been hunting. That's just the thing I said, but also he put it together in seconds. Also, who the fuck lies about hunting? It was just something that I said.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I kind of like. that actually because it's like one of those stupid things you lie about and like why and then when it comes back to by you you're like oh no like yeah i know how to read a map hi i'm uh scott speedman i've been hunting scott speedman oh that sounds really great what's that live toiler i said it sounds really great you're doing a great too could you just can you just i'm sorry I'm a little hard of, could you just... I'm literally screaming. I'm sorry, could you write in my good ear?
Starting point is 00:26:33 I am literally yelling right now. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, Rex Manning Day. But she's just like wandering in and out of the house. She's not wearing shoes. She like goes up. She gets hurt. She hurts herself.
Starting point is 00:26:45 She falls down and hurts her knee or something. Which I appreciate that because, uh, pro tip, don't just go running through a yard that you do not know the topography of. Yeah, that's a good tip. Often going to be ditches. Gonna be ditches. It's out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Houses in the middle of nowhere. Ugh. Did you think it was a weird choice for them to put the bridesmaids dress back on her? A hundred percent. Because they were like, they stripped her down. Why? Why did they put the bridesmaids? And they didn't know it was there.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Like, I guess they did. They've been watching, huh? It's just weird. I, like, had to put together why, like, they sort of, like, ritualized. that aspect because they also put him back and like I think they put the tie back on him or something Oh I didn't even notice that But it was like they each took a turn
Starting point is 00:27:37 stabbing them and then like later someone says It'll be easier next time So it was just like this ritualizing of it all It was like really really weird and Worked and didn't work I felt like Why would you buy like just stab them? You don't have to put a dress back on it It doesn't add any impact to what's happening
Starting point is 00:27:57 Right Why would they want her to be in the dress? Right. Also, why afterwards did they move the bodies? Why do they leave her alive? He does it on purpose. Yeah. Why?
Starting point is 00:28:09 To spread the tail maybe? I don't know. I don't know. But it doesn't make any sense. Because one of the scariest, I think probably the scariest part of this movie is that when they have Scott Speedman and Liv Taylor tied up to chairs, they take their masks off. She sees them. Yeah. So when someone takes the mask off.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That's the oh fuck moment. Yeah, because they're not going to leave you alive. No. But then they do. Question marks? Unless she like, I don't know, did, like, that kind of falls apart and I think it was just there for the jump scare at the end. Yeah, I guess so. But like, yeah, did she fake being dead?
Starting point is 00:28:47 No, he sees her. He's dragging her, remember? And then he just stops dragging her. Isn't that what happened? I don't remember them dragging. Oh, maybe not. Maybe he drags her and then she wakes up. Well, there are two cuts of this film and one of them has two extra minutes.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It's two minutes longer. I watched the unrated version. That's what I think I watched too. Okay. I had seen this movie in the movie theater, but I don't remember anything that was added. I mean, I saw it 11 years ago when it came out, so I don't know. I don't remember what was added or anything. Yeah, I mean, there was nothing like, because the tag for the unrated is like,
Starting point is 00:29:22 the too terrifying to show in theaters. And I was like, no, there's nothing too terrifying to. Was it the smoking? Did you get the smoking out initially? The waste of the ice cream. Those are very intense things. Yeah, I'm sorry. I jumped right from Dennis getting shot too
Starting point is 00:29:42 to the end of the movie. No, but yeah, it's like... It gets chasey. They're chasing around. Exactly. And I think that's when it loses momentum. Yeah, I agree. Because they are...
Starting point is 00:29:53 They become almost superhuman. Yeah. Like, why didn't they smell? smash the radio ahead of time. Why would you leave that option open? That's what I'm saying. They're taking so many risks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And it's stupid because if you thought out this, but then again, they didn't think it out because they're like, well, why are you doing this dust because you were home? Yeah. So that means it's just, I knocked on your door and you were there. Right. They hadn't, like, cased the place at all. They should have just boned.
Starting point is 00:30:21 They should have just kept boning. No, that's what was happening when they were getting knocked. Oh, no. They should just never, if they had never opened the door, they'd, they'd, would have been okay. Sorry, can't come to the door. Fucking.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Fucking right now. Have you ever seen Michael Henneke's funny games? No. I know we've talked about it. This movie is like very similar.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Okay. Thematically to that. Yeah. Of the sort of like the, you know, the malaise of the like
Starting point is 00:30:51 closed off areas where you're going to go to and there's not anybody there to help you. and you sort of like and like this movie sort of has a feel of like they are you know upper class people that are coming to this not so upper class area and like being murdered by people who are obviously not of that
Starting point is 00:31:08 same class so there's like a little class conflict going on what do you mean obviously not of that same class? Well there's like three people in a pickup truck at the end of the movie like driving away that gives it like kind of that like well these are rural folk and you're city folk and like I got a little bit of that but they're also dressed like hipsters which especially of the time like a mid-tube 2000's woman wearing like a baby doll dress over jeans. Like it felt very like, I don't know, like urban outfitters.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah, yeah. But it also felt very costuming. Like his suit almost looked like a tuxedo that you would buy at Goodwill or something like that. Okay, okay, okay. And I didn't know if that's what they were going. Like, yeah. Again, I might be doing that thing where I put way more the thing on something than what's happening. Well, it's certainly a critique of.
Starting point is 00:31:55 living in the middle nowhere, as all of these goddamn movies are. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I do love that they, like, they take cell phones out of the equation, they just steal them and smash them. Yeah. Which is really great. It's really effective and adds to that, like, you know, we're so relying on that now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Like, even if, you know, I have a phone line in my house and if that goes down, there's still fucking satellites. Right. For sure. Yeah, and cell phone towers and all that shit. Yeah, cell phones really ruin. movies now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah. I think that's why everything is still set in the 80s. I know. Rob got really mad about the Home Alone remake
Starting point is 00:32:33 because he was like, the whole thing falls apart with cell phones. And it really does. It really does. It's like how every Seinfeld episode could have just
Starting point is 00:32:41 been solved with a cell phone. Sure. Yeah. Or a Post-it note. Yeah. That too. It's a bummer that, like,
Starting point is 00:32:49 it's a bummer that it loses that momentum and that terror factor, but I don't think you can maintain that for an entire movie. No. No,
Starting point is 00:32:54 and it gets right. into it too. That woman shows up at the door very early on. Yeah. It has to. You can't have these people just like sitting around being sad for too long. But I, in my memory of seeing it in the movie theater, I remember feeling very tense the entire time. And also like I remembered a very scary scene in my mind of Liv Taylor in a very quiet room and then the record kicks on, which I think happens in this. Yeah. But it like wasn't as, it was not scary this time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. Which was disappointing to me. And it's weird too because it's, uh, it's mama tried by Whalen Jennings. Yeah. And you're just like, that weird choice. Like they're having this sad breakup and he just goes over to the, or not even a sad breakup. This sad like, what do we do now? Where do we go from here?
Starting point is 00:33:41 And he just like goes over and puts on like a weird country record. Like I just, it doesn't seem right. He doesn't seem like a weird country record kind of guy. Scott Speedman. No, Speedman does not. Live Tyler in that like 2008 hip. maybe I like Alt Country, I'm going to throw in some wailing.
Starting point is 00:33:58 What a weird time, 10 years ago. It's so crazy that 2008 was 10 years ago. 11, buddy. 11 years. I watched this movie at the movie theater and then walked back to my apartment. And it was very scary.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It sounds spooky. It was spooky. Especially because if you remember my old apartment, you had to walk through that little narrow alleyway to get to the back door. It was very spooky. I remember not wanting to go in there. When I told Rob we were doing this movie, he was like, he said in a very small voice, I'm not going to watch that with you.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I'm not going to watch that with you. And I was like, live Taylor, when did I marry you? Congrats. Yeah. We're very happy. I'm very rich. So they kill Speedman and ostensibly Taylor. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I have it stabs the Speedman, stabs the Tyler man. the Mormon kids come back He said The key They pull over to them They pull over to them And the kid goes Are you a sinner
Starting point is 00:35:03 Kids sometimes We're all fucking sinners You little shit Every religion teaches that So weird Yeah That's the ones that the Mormons are out there Prostalotizing for sure
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yeah and that's when we get the It'll be easier next timeline And they drive away And I wanted him to yell yeha as they were going away. And you never see their faces. They take off their masks, but we don't see them. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:27 What do you think of that? I liked it. Did you like that? Yeah. Because it kept them as just like faceless murders. Because even when she came to the door, she was in total darkness, so we never saw her face. Right. Which sets it up for the strangers, pray at night.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Oh, there's another one? There's a deuce. When did that happen? A few years ago, I think. Oh my God. Did you watch it? No. No.
Starting point is 00:35:49 No. Should we? No. No. This is not going to be a Poltergeist, Poltergeist Situation. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Back to Baxies. Or what else? Puppet Master. Why did we do that? That one was a lot more fun than Poltergeist, too. Yeah. Puppet Master is fun.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Poldergeist 2 is a drop off. It was a new good. So, yeah, the Mormon kids go into the house. Liv Diler is alive. That's your jump scare at the end of the movie. Those kids are so brave. They're brave as fuck going into that house and, like, touching her.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I would not. You walk in, you see blood on the door, and you're like, yeah, I need an adult. Yeah, I need an adult. I'm 45 and I need an adult now. So, Katie, I have a question for you. Yeah. Do you want to get on the ratings space? I'm sorry, what?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Do you want to go to the ratings space? I can't. Do you want to go to the rating space? Sure. Why don't you go first? If this movie stops at the 40-minute mark, I fucking love it. I'm so tense, I'm scared. I'm just like, I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:36:50 in a good way and also in a not good way. Okay. Which is what this movie should be giving me. Yeah. By the end of the movie, I was like, oh, I don't care if these people are dead. Because they get making such bad choices? Like when she's sitting outside with her head and her hands and you're like, why are you covering your face?
Starting point is 00:37:04 You know they're bad guys. Maybe keep your eyes open. Keep at all times. Yeah. It's just, it's just, they thought that, or it seemed to me that they thought that, like, oh, they're in a rocky relationship was enough, like backstory to make me like these people. And like I just don't know enough about them that when like they have this kind of anticlimactic death. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Just like, uh, in the tummy and you're gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not that I'm like, oh, should be way more gory or whatever, but it just didn't have any like, it wasn't, the build was not to that part. Yeah. It had already built and. Crescended, I guess. Yeah, crescendoed, I guess.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Climaxed into the vortex. And I'm maybe chocolate. up to direction in the movie because it just didn't have that like umph that it should have had. I don't know what you could. I was going to say I don't know what you could do, but then I remember hush. And while I don't remember the specifics of it, I remember it being very scary the whole way through. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Which was a similar situation except with the, you know, added difficulty of being deaf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's even similar like somebody shows up that wasn't there initially and they get killed and blah, blah, blah, blah, like all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. They bring in Dennis. Dennis gets killed. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:19 They should have marry a. netted Dennis's body around or something. So I'm going to give this movie a 6.5. All right. What about you? When I saw it in the movie theater 11 years ago, I was really scared. I thought it was a really scary movie. I was scared the whole way through.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And when it ended, I was like, and I was scared to walk home. And that's like a really good scare, right? When you're scared to walk home. So I don't know if it was like having seen it before and knowing that it was going to do this thing where it's just going to be like them chasing her around a house basically. Yeah. But I didn't, or maybe I was watching it in my office. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:57 But it did cause me to pee. I don't, I think it's, I think it's fine. I think you should watch it if you haven't seen it. Sure. I'm going to give it a 6.5 as well. Okay. It's, uh, it's definitely trying and it's definitely trying like in all the right ways. Like nobody gave up on this movie.
Starting point is 00:39:12 For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think with a little bit more polishing, it could have been as good as like something like hush or something like that. I'm just trying to think what they could have done between like Dennis getting shot and the end of the movie to keep the tension. Well, yeah, for sure. Like, I think, I mean, I think you could have even stretched out the like climactic murder scene and
Starting point is 00:39:34 made it a little bit more tense. Yeah. There was no like, there was no tension. It was just like, oh, they're just going to stab in there. Yeah, like maybe one of them gets away for a minute or something. And I don't know if that's, you know, knowing that like, in a murder scenario, if the mask gets taken off, you're done. Yeah. I thought that was really scary. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:54 But I think that's knowing, you know, true crime type stuff that like, if you see your killer's face, we're done. You're done. So it's, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know what they could have done to make it better. That's why I don't make movies.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Mm-hmm. I'm fun. I don't know nothing. Fun? I know nothing. I know literally nothing. Katie. Alan.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I'd like to take you to a little place that we both like to call mailback. Yay. This is a email that we received from friend of the podcast, Rachel. Hi, Rachel. She says, hi, Katie and Alan. Hi, Rachel. I already said it. I guess I'll say it again.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I'm Rachel, and I hail from Florida. I'm sorry, Rachel. You're a swamp person. Just kidding. I'm sure you're great. She's not a swap person. She's a huge horror nerd and found our podcast last year. Aw.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Since then, I've gone back through old episodes and started from the beginning. Sorry about that shit. Sorry about everything Alan said in episode four, A Nightmare on Elm Street. And the theme song was a little long in the beginning. I apologize. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, why did we need 45 seconds of theme song? I wrote it.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I was just so proud. Oh, it's good. It's very good. But then you didn't add that to it until later, too. That popped in later. Yeah, I like that. It's been so much fun listening to the evolution of the podcast and so many amazing episodes. I just wanted to write and say what a delightful show you have.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Your humor and contagious laughter resonates with your listeners and personally makes my work date, gym day, and every day so much better. Oh, Rachel. I'm sorry, I called you a swamp person. Thank you for making such a wonderful show on my favorite subject. Cheesy fun, nostalgic 80s and 90s are. Sure, there are some 70s and a otts thrown in there too. I've done a lot of otts.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Sorry about that. There's a lot to make fun of. Oh, yeah. It's just a content goldmine. But she goes on to give us some suggestions for movies and stuff and says, all my best for Rachel. Oh, Rachel, thank you so much. Thanks for reaching out.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And, like, you don't have to do that. It's so nice when people just, like, take a fucking minute to tell you they appreciate something because it really does make us feel awesome. Alan was having a shit day. It worked the day that we got that email and turned it around a little for him. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:10 It's nice to be nice. It's nice to be nice. It's better than knowing things, I would say. I'm nice, fun, and I don't know. anything. That's really cool. I like that a lot and that's the kind of friends that everybody should have. Nice, fun, fucking, dumb as a bag of wet hair. I don't think you are that. You just don't know facts. I don't know facts either. I know even fewer than you do. Well, I have a fact that I'd like to tell you. Yeah. We're doing another movie. What's it going to be? It's going to be the
Starting point is 00:42:43 Tony Catane vehicle, witchboard. I'm just... so excited. Alan tried to pull this out a couple weeks ago and I was like, how about we don't? How about we do Mandy instead? But here we are. Yeah, because I begged. I begged for it. He did beg. I didn't make him, but he did. Because I think what I'm hoping for is a mausoleum-like experience. Oh, good, good, good, good. I don't think we're going to get quite there, but it's pretty fucking ridiculous. It's the same era too, huh? Yeah, around the same time. And Tony contains voluminous hair is in this movie. I do love big hair. Yeah. You might know her as the star of White Snake videos. I do. I do know her as that. And this, it can be found for free on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yep. Great. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, there may be a companion episode to this episode on our YouTube. It may be our first one. It may not be there. We don't know yet. We have to figure out how to edit it and post it. Yeah. I can figure out how to post it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'll talk to you about editing it later. We've had a couple of people reach out and say they can help with editing as well. So we'll see what happens. I think it won't be that hard. I don't think it'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah, yeah. So is it where will famelance at YouTube? At YouTube. What the fuck do I know about it? Wherewell familence at YouTube.com. I'm fun. I don't know anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I actually don't know. We'll post links. Well, the thing is when you have a Gmail account, you like automatically have a YouTube account. So I just went in and changed our pictures. And I said, this is our account. I like it.
Starting point is 00:44:13 So. I think, I don't know, guys. I'm fun and nice and I don't know a damn thing. It's empty-headed. Just one lone hammer, banging around in my head. It's actually like, the sad thing is, too, it's like one of those little toy hammers that comes with a toy tool set.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Sure. It's not even doing any damage. A toy set that never has any nails. No, why would they give you nails? It's all screws in, but you got the hammer, just in case. Is that not how you get screws in? I don't know these things. So, yeah, keep an eye after that.
Starting point is 00:44:50 We'll post links in that stuff. Maybe. Maybe we will. We got to figure it out. We bought this four-by-six banner. Oh, my God. You guys have to see this banner. You have to see it. So thanks for listening to another episode of Werewolf Ambulance.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Bye. Bye.

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