What A Day - A Dark Day For Maine
Episode Date: October 27, 2023A manhunt is underway in Maine for the gunman behind two shootings in Maine. Eighteen people were killed and thirteen others were injured Wednesday evening, in what has become the deadliest mass killi...ng in the U.S. this year. As the likelihood of an escalation in the war between Israel and Hamas looms, activists in the U.S. are revving up their demands for an immediate ceasefire. Eva Borgwardt with the progressive Jewish group IfNotNow joins us to talk about their push for peace and solidarity with Palestinians.And in headlines: a federal judge ordered Georgia to draw up new legislative maps ahead of the 2024 election, the U.S. economy grew at a blistering rate last quarter, and the inaugural Florida Man games are coming to the Sunshine State next year.Show Notes:IfNotNowMovement – https://www.ifnotnowmovement.org/Jewish Voice for Peace – https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastCrooked Coffee is officially here. Our first blend, What A Morning, is available in medium and dark roasts. Wake up with your own bag at crooked.com/coffeeFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whatadayÂ
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It's Friday, October 27th. I'm Trevelle Anderson.
And I'm Priyanka Arabindi, and this is What A Day.
On today's show, a federal judge has ordered Georgia to draw up new legislative maps ahead
of the 2024 election. Plus, analysts are skeptical about a better-than-expected report on the
economy.
But first, a manhunt for the gunman in this year's deadliest mass shooting in the United
States continues in Maine.
On Wednesday evening, 18 people were killed and 13 others injured after a man opened fire
at a bowling alley and then a bar in Lewiston, Maine.
As of the time of our recording at 9.30 p.m. Eastern on Thursday, the suspect had been
identified but is still at large.
This has forced thousands of people in the area into an extended lockdown as law enforcement officials from local, state and federal agencies search a large and mostly rural area to find the suspect.
Yeah. What do we know about the shooting and the suspect thus far?
Yes. So the suspect has been identified.
We will not be naming him on the show, as is our policy.
He is a 40-year-old male from the nearby town of Bowdoin, Maine, who is an Army reservist and was
employed as a firearms training instructor. Investigators say that he was taken by police
for a mental health evaluation after military officials became concerned with his erratic
behavior back in July. He was armed with a military-style semi-automatic rifle,
and a warrant is out for his arrest on eight counts of murder so far.
That count is expected to increase up to 18,
which is the number of people who he killed.
But there is still a lot we do not know.
Only eight of those 18 people who were killed have been identified at this point,
and we don't know the motivation behind this attack either. Yeah, and I feel like with every
mass shooting, the focus is always on that state's gun laws. And so right now, there's a focus on
Maine's gun laws or lack thereof. What can you tell us about those? The state of Maine has a longstanding history and culture of hunting, really high rates of gun ownership relative to other states in the U.S.
The state doesn't require any permits to carry guns, and it also doesn't have a red flag law on the books.
Those, of course, prevent anybody who shows signs of being a threat to others or to themselves from purchasing or possessing guns.
They instead have what's called a yellow flag law that was actually written with the help of a gun rights group. So really not the most teeth there. Before Wednesday, Maine was actually considered
one of the safest states in the nation, despite these high rates of gun ownership and not having
these stringent gun laws on the books. But as we've seen, it really only takes one person with a gun
to change everything in that regard.
In one night, the state of Maine saw almost the same number of murders
that they do in an entire year.
Which is really wild when you set it up that way.
Now, on top of this already being a tragedy,
this is incredibly frustrating because, right, we've seen mass shootings happen for years, literally all over this country.
How this time have lawmakers responded?
Well, you know, there are your typical thoughts and prayers from the usual suspects.
There are your typical calls for gun reform from all the politicians who really care about this and have for years.
But there was a notable change from one Democratic representative, Jared Golden, who represents Lewiston in Congress.
Take a listen to him in his own words.
I have opposed efforts to ban deadly weapons of war, like the assault rifle used to carry out this crime.
The time has now come for
me to take responsibility for this failure, which is why I now call on the United States Congress
to ban assault rifles like the one used by the sick perpetrator of this mass killing in my hometown
of Lewis and Main. For the good of my community, I will work with any colleague to get this done in the time that I have left in Congress.
It's a good thing, but this has also been happening in so many communities for so long.
It shouldn't take this happening in your backyard for you to become concerned about it.
So it is progress, but I'm hesitant to feel so great about that. But obviously, we will continue to
cover this story and any developments on the front of gun control legislation. Absolutely.
Hopefully, we have some more to report there in the near future. Absolutely. Thanks so much for
that, Priyanka. Turning now to some updates on the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas.
It has now been three weeks since Hamas's initial attack,
and as of today, the war is now the deadliest conflict involving Israel and Gaza for both
sides. The Gaza Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas, reported yesterday that more than 7,000
Palestinians have been killed. Though that number is difficult to independently confirm, it means
the current Palestinian death toll is
three times higher than when Israel launched its last operation in Gaza back in 2014. Meanwhile,
Israel's military said it dispatched tanks and troops to conduct a series of brief raids in the
northern part of the territory to prepare for its expected ground invasion. And as the likelihood of
that escalation looms here in the United States,
activists around the country are revving up their demands
for an immediate ceasefire.
You just heard members of American Jewish peace groups
chanting ceasefire now inside the Capitol Rotunda.
About 300 people were arrested during that action last week.
Over the past few days,
they also joined with Palestinian American groups and their allies to deliver that message straight
to lawmakers themselves. Protesters recently staged sit-ins at the D.C. offices of several
prominent Democrats, including House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senator Bernie Sanders,
calling for them to support a ceasefire in Gaza.
We recently caught up with Eva Borgwart with If Not Now, one of the progressive Jewish groups
that's been taking part in these protests. She told us that the mood from lawmakers right now
reminds her of the lead up to the Iraq war. As Jewish organizers, one thing that we want to make
extremely clear is that while the Biden administration and the U.S. government is invoking Jewish and Israeli safety as justification for this response, this is not at all about the safety of Israelis or Jews. society right now is attributing much of their responsibility for the October 7th attack to
Netanyahu and the policies of the most far-right government in Israeli history, as well as the
audacity of successive Israeli governments to act as if they could keep human beings,
keep Palestinians caged for decades and brutalize them whenever they try to non-violently resist
and not expect disaster to happen to their own citizens. Yeah. So If Not Now
actually held a demonstration in DC on Wednesday, calling for the Biden administration to push for
a ceasefire. One of the things you did there was lay stones in front of the US Capitol and say
prayers for those who have died in this conflict. Can you tell us about the significance of doing
that? That's a practice that comes from Jewish tradition, which is that we lay stones on the graves of
people who have died, who we've lost. And whenever you visit someone's grave site, you place a stone
on their grave. And there's something like really important and tactile about that in terms of some sort of a tangible physical act and alteration of the world
that reflects your grief. And yes, so we were passing hundreds of stones down a line of people
and placing them to convey and connect with the magnitude of the death that is happening right now
in one small way that our tradition offers us. I'm curious about your reaction to the way If Not Now and other groups with similar goals
are kind of being portrayed, right? Like, for example, the Anti-Defamation League has called
If Not Now, quote unquote, anti-Israel. And they say that your group and others engage in, quote,
divisive and inflammatory rhetoric. I wonder how do you respond to that criticism,
considering the work that you all are doing? If anyone were still taking the Anti-Defamation
League seriously as an arbiter of what constitutes hate or an arbiter of the severity of that hate,
they should definitely be disillusioned now. Anti-Defamation League was echoing right-wing comparisons of
the protest last Wednesday at the Capitol, where hundreds of Jews led by rabbis were
sitting in peaceful protest and singing inside the Capitol and calling for a ceasefire. And
the ADL echoed far-right claims that that was akin to the insurrection on January 6th,
which is preposterous.
The January 6th protest was about undermining any semblance of U.S. democracy.
And one of the core tenets of democracy is that all human beings are created equal.
That's one of our highest democratic aspirations and ideals. And a peaceful protest with singing Jews and rabbis, which is geared toward ending this horrific war and honoring the idea that all human life is sacred and all humans are created equal, is a fundamentally democratic protest. And January 6th, of course, was a violent insurrection led by people who were threatened by
the idea of even a modicum of greater equality in our country. It's preposterous to compare those
things and the ADL should be ashamed and no one should take them seriously. I want to ask about
how listeners who support a ceasefire in Gaza can get involved, can put pressure on Congress.
Do you have any thoughts on how these people can support this goal of a ceasefire,
these people can support and advocate for what they believe?
The only way that we will actually succeed in ending U.S. unconditional backing for
the Israeli government's assault on Palestinians right now
is with everyone. All Americans must take responsibility for our country's foreign
policy establishment that currently right now is lining up to send offensive weapons to
Netanyahu's government, which previously in previous months, Biden himself was holding at arm's length to
American Jews. Like we see the pain that you're in. And I had a coworker who had a friend in Israel
and her two little kids who were murdered a couple of weeks ago. And this is extremely close to home
and we shouldn't have to organize through our grief right now. As American Jews, we're looking
to our Israeli partners and friends who are quite literally burying their loved ones right now. As American Jews, we're looking to our Israeli partners and friends
who are quite literally burying their loved ones right now and who are still raising their voices
to cry out against this horrific war and say that the memories of their loved ones should not bring
about other shattered families. And also we can look to Palestinians. I have colleagues at
Palestinian organizations who are constantly having to show up to work
through their grief and figure out
how to mobilize their communities
through tragedy that is extremely close to home.
When we talk about genocide,
there used to be hundreds of people
with my family's last name,
not my current last name, but my mom's maiden name.
And those people were nearly wiped out
before I was born, decades before I was born. There are only a handful of us left who share
that name, who are in that family. And that is happening to Palestinians today. Again, people
ask, how are you as Jews in the streets? We want to understand what's driving you right now. It's
because of course, of course we are. How could we not be? Because our invoking our names right now,
but also that the rhetoric that we're hearing out of this Israeli government and the intent that
they have made extremely public resonates for us in devastating, terrifying ways. And that's why
we are mobilizing by the thousands, by the tens of thousands to do everything we can to stop it. That was our interview with Eva Borgwart with the Jewish
Peace Group, If Not Now. We'll continue to follow the conflict in the days and weeks ahead,
but that is the latest for now. We'll be back after a short break for some ads.
Let's get to some headlines.
Headlines.
Starting in Georgia, where a federal judge there ordered the state's political maps to be redrawn in time for the 2024 election. Judge Steve C. Jones released the 516-page order yesterday, saying that Georgia's current voting maps violate the Voting Rights Act by diluting the power of Black voters in the state.
In his decision, Jones acknowledged that Georgia has made, quote, great strides toward voting
equality since 1965 when the Voting Rights Act was passed, but he continued, quote,
Georgia has not reached the point where the political process has equal openness and equal opportunity for everyone. The judge gave lawmakers until December 8th to redraw the maps and warned
that the court would step in if the state is unable or unwilling to do so. Republican Governor
Brian Kemp has since scheduled a special legislative session for lawmakers to go back to the drawing board on November 29th, though the state is likely going
to appeal. Yesterday's ruling comes after a trial in September that challenged the voting maps.
It also follows a Supreme Court ruling from June that sided with Black voters in Alabama
and ordered that state to draw up new maps. Meanwhile, congressional districts in Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee,
and other states are also being challenged.
Listen, I'm glad these things are being challenged
because clearly they're finding that they are unfair,
but it's also so disheartening how prevalent and widespread this is,
these attempts to dilute the rights of black voters, to be heard.
It's disgusting. It really is.
Absolutely.
And over in Texas, the State House of Representatives was up late
to debate a trio of bills aimed at beefing up border security.
Lawmakers eventually approved another billion and a half dollars
to continue building barriers along the border with Mexico.
But the longest fight was over House Bill 4,
which would empower police in
the Lone Star State to arrest migrants and order them to leave the country. The legislation, which
eventually passed early Thursday morning, would make being in the U.S. without authorization
a state misdemeanor. Repeat offenders would be charged with felonies carrying a maximum penalty
of up to 20 years in prison.
But Democrats fought long and hard to defeat it,
including state representative Armando Wally,
who confronted one of his Republican colleagues for cutting off the debate.
Y'all don't understand the shit that y'all do hurts our community.
It hurts us personally, bro.
It hurts us. Just let us debate it.
It hurts us to our fucking core.
And y'all don't understand that.
Y'all don't live in our fucking skin.
Someone had to say it.
I don't think it's being said enough.
The bill now heads back to the state Senate, which has already approved its own version of the bill
and will likely head to Republican Governor Greg Abbott's desk.
The U.S. economy grew at a blistering rate last quarter. The
Commerce Department yesterday reported that America's gross domestic product grew by 4.9%,
the highest quarterly growth since 2014. A lot of things have to get factored in to calculate how
well the economy is doing, but we can thank Beyonce, Taylor Swift, and Barbenheimer for their
contributions.
Almost 60% of that growth came from folks willing to drop a lot of cash this summer on concerts,
going to the movies, eating out, and even splurging on expensive stuff overall.
And while all of that does sound like good news, many economists say not so fast.
That's because the Federal Reserve could raise interest rates again sometime in the
coming months. So if you decided to treat yourself this summer using a credit card,
even higher rates are going to make it that much harder to pay it all off. Not to mention that many
of us will have to start making payments on student loans. By many of us, I'm talking about me.
All of that could put a big dent
in economic growth in the near future.
Still, most analysts think
this better than expected summer.
It means that we're now less likely
to hit a recession.
So keep your fingers crossed
and stick to your budget, people.
Yeah, if you are like me
and you want that Beyonce perfume,
you might have to cut back
on a few extra things
if you want to make that happen.
That's just expensive. And it's not getting any easier to splurge out here. And finally,
the world is gearing up for what could be the most anticipated sporting event of 2024.
No, I am not talking about the Paris Olympics. I am talking about the inaugural Florida Man Games
that will be held next February in the city of St. Augustine, the Florida Olympics, if you will.
The event will be exactly what it sounds like.
According to organizers, it will feature a variety of tongue-in-cheek competitions that lean into Florida's well-deserved reputation as the weirdest and wildest state in the union. The competition includes a, quote, evading arrest obstacle course where
contestants are chased by actual cops, beer belly sumo wrestling, and of course, a mullet contest.
The real Florida Olympics, you got to have some kind of challenge where everyone's on bath salts
while they eat someone's face off, remains to be seen. Anyways, if this sounds like your idea of
a good time, you are in luck because participation is actually open to anyone.
The event's website says, quote, being athletic is not required at all to compete.
I'm asking humbly, Crooked Media, I am available to report live from the scene.
Someone needs to go there and bring the news.
And I think myself brave enough to do it.
Well, you know, since it's open to anyone, maybe we just need to put together a
WOD squad team, you know?
Count me out on that, but you,
I will be there, I will report on it,
and I will be a biased reporter and
rooting for you the whole time. I mean, I'm just saying, don't you
want to see me participate in the mullet contest?
You know? I mean, yeah. Business in the
front, party in the back. I want to know how
you do on bath salts. I want to
see.
Who among us has done that. Anyways, lots to consider here. If you're interested in being on our team,
we're recruiting. And those are the headlines. One more thing. If you are in Virginia,
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