What A Day - Arizona Abortion Access Now Hinges On A Referendum
Episode Date: April 10, 2024The Arizona Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday, that an 1864 law banning almost all abortions is enforceable. The only exception is if a pregnant person’s life is at risk. The court stayed its decision ...for at least 14 days pending other legal challenges. Chris Love, one of the lead organizers behind an effort to get an abortion rights amendment on Arizona’s November ballot, explains what the decision means for the fight for reproductive rights in the state.The Environmental Protection Agency issued a new rule that will force more than 200 chemical plants to reduce their toxic emissions. The rule targets two chemicals the EPA says are likely carcinogens. Most of the affected plants are in just two states: Texas and Louisiana.And in headlines: A Michigan court sentenced both of Ethan Crumbley’s parents to 10 to 15 years in prison for failing to stop him from carrying out a mass shooting. U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he hasn’t found any evidence of Israel committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. And Mattel said it will debut an easier version of the game Scrabble.Show Notes:What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It's Wednesday, April 10th.
I'm Priyanka Arabindi.
And I'm Juanita Tolliver.
And this is What A Day,
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On today's show, we'll explain how important the EPA's new regulation on chemical plants will be for the environment and people's health.
Plus, Scrabble in Europe is debuting an easy mode.
But first, we saw another devastating blow to reproductive rights yesterday. The Arizona Supreme Court ruled that an 1864 law banning almost all abortions is enforceable. The
only exception in this law is if a pregnant person's life is at risk. The court stayed its
decision for at least 14 days while other legal challenges play out. The Arizona High Court cited
the U.S. Supreme Court's 2022 decision striking down Roe
v. Wade as the basis for its decision yesterday. That's just like the decision from the Florida
Supreme Court last week, effectively allowing the state's six-week abortion ban to go into effect.
Yeah, it's insane. It's awful. There's no way around it. But I also remember last week in
headlines, we talked about a push in Arizona to get a referendum on the November ballot to amend the state's constitution to protect abortion
access.
So is there still some hope here?
There is still some hope.
To get a better sense of what this means for the effort to protect abortion rights in Arizona's
constitution, I spoke with Chris Love.
She's a senior advisor for Planned Parenthood of Arizona and one of the organizers behind
the ballot initiative.
I started by asking about her reaction to yesterday's ruling in Arizona.
Devastated is probably an understatement.
This is clearly what we've been telling people was at stake for a long time,
that, you know, our abortion rights rest at the whim of an anti-abortion legislature and a Supreme Court that was mostly appointed by an anti-abortion governor.
And so the best protection possible is for us to enshrine abortion rights in our state constitution.
Now, the court did put this decision on hold at least for the next 14 days, and that's
while more legal challenges play out. But what immediate effect do you think that this will have?
Well, I think it has a chilling effect, right? While we're kind of in this in-between period,
there's going to be some confusion for Arizonans who need abortion services, right? So I want to
make it clear that abortion providers are still going to be performing services, right? So I want to make it clear that abortion providers are still going
to be performing services, right, unless and until they're told not to. But that confusion has always
been the point here in Arizona. And for us, it serves as an example of why this ballot measure
that we're offering is more important now than ever.
And meanwhile, a 15-week abortion ban is in place in the state.
How has that reshaped abortion access in Arizona since the fall of Roe v. Wade in 2022?
Well, the 15-week ban is just that, a ban.
And bans harm pregnant patients in Arizona. It harms folks who are experiencing problems with their pregnancies.
It harms folks who are survivors of sexual violence. But most importantly, it harms every
Arizonan because we believe that we fundamentally should have the right to make decisions about
our health care, our lives, and our futures. And your group, Arizona for Abortion Access,
said last week that it had gathered
more than enough signatures
to get an abortion rights amendment
to the state's constitution on the November ballot.
What more needs to be done
to ensure that it does get on the ballot?
Well, we're happy with 500,000 signatures,
and I think it demonstrates
that Arizonans are excited to have this on the ballot.
At the same time, we understand that we need to keep collecting signatures until that deadline to ensure that we have the then turn in what we hope will be more than double the number of required signatures.
Yes, clear the bar so there are no questions from anyone about this. I appreciate that. And Arizona is a key swing state in the upcoming presidential election.
Most recent polls show President Biden trailing former President Trump in the state.
There's also a major race for an open Senate seat.
And as you point out, abortion access has had appeal across the political spectrum.
It also is a politically potent issue for Democrats.
But how are you planning to frame the issue heading into the election if you do successfully get on the ballot?
Well, I think our messaging will be the same, right?
We know what's at stake, even with this court decision.
We know that we also have an anti-abortion majority in our legislature that is chomping at the bit to do anything to prevent abortion rights, but also just generally reproductive freedom, right?
So we're going to talk to people from across the political spectrum because they agree with us that pregnant patients should have the freedom
to make decisions about their health care, including abortion and pregnancy,
with their families and their medical providers,
and without politicians or government or activist judges.
And you have referenced the Republican control of the statehouse a couple of times in our chat,
but at least a few of them have criticized the ruling and say this 1864 law should be repealed
in favor of maintaining the 15-week abortion ban.
Would you work with such lawmakers to at least see this horrifically draconian law,
which doesn't even have exceptions for rape or incest, repealed in the short term? I would tell Arizona voters to not believe the
hype because I think a lot of these people have gone on record repeatedly stating their opposition
to abortion rights here in the state. Just as recently as last month, we had a Republican legislator who advised women who's seeking reproductive health care to keep an aspirin between their knees.
So I think these folks have made it very clear where they stand.
I think that they are obviously moderating their position because this is an election year. But our focus is making sure
that we're providing Arizona voters with as much information as they can possibly stand
so that they understand what's at stake and they will support us in November.
Okay. For our listeners in Arizona, what do you want to see them do heading into November and to
show their support for this campaign? Go to our website, all spelled out, ArizonaForAbortionAccess.org.
And what about for our listeners outside of Arizona? What do you want them to do to show
their support? We appreciate donations, right? These are expensive campaigns. And in order to
get our message out more than our opposition,
we need money in order to do so. So anything that folks can spare, we're happy to take.
And once we get on the ballot, there will be opportunities from folks from out of state to
come and help us spread our message through canvassing, through making phone calls,
doing a number of volunteer activities for us.
So I would say go check our website early and often to find those opportunities.
That was my conversation with Chris Love.
She's a senior advisor for Planned Parenthood of Arizona
and one of the organizers behind the ballot initiative.
We'll keep an eye on this story, especially as we approach the July deadline
to submit signatures to the Secretary of State.
In the meantime, you can help fight for abortion rights wherever you are by heading to
votesaveamerica.com. And tomorrow, Hysteria will also break down all the repercussions of the
decision. Tune into Hysteria wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you so much for that, Juanita. I
want to switch now to some positive developments from the EPA. Under a new rule issued by the
Environmental Protection Agency yesterday,
over 200 chemical plants all around the country
will be required to reduce their toxic emissions.
This will be the first time in almost two decades
that the federal government has updated these kinds of limits
on pollution from chemical plants.
And by doing so, the EPA hopes to reduce the risk of cancer
for the people living close to these facilities.
Tell us more about the specific chemicals being regulated here and the areas that this is supposed
to impact. Yes, happily. So this rule specifically targets two chemicals that the EPA says are likely
carcinogens. The first is ethylene oxide, which is used to sterilize medical devices. And the second
is chloroprene, which is used to make rubber in footwear. But it also
requires the plants to reduce emissions of four other toxic chemicals as well. This will have
impacts on facilities all across the U.S., but it's important to note that over half of them
are in Texas and Louisiana specifically. As you could probably guess, the majority of the
communities that live near these plants are disproportionately Black and Latino. They also have elevated rates of cancer, respiratory issues, and premature deaths, which is not a coincidence
given where they live. This is not a coincidence, and this is yet another wake-up call for anyone
who doesn't think that environmental policy is related to social justice. Absolutely. You
probably have heard the term Cancer Alley before. That refers to an 85-mile area in Louisiana that is home to over 200 petrochemical plants and refineries. These chemicals in particular have been a major source of concern and complaints from the residents of that area and activists all over the country for some time, EPA Administrator Michael Regan traveled to that area in 2021 to announce the agency's goal of limiting pollution from those plants, and he referenced that trip specifically as he signed this rule yesterday.
Take a listen.
My trip to Cancer Alley in 2021, quiteational, widespread havoc that pollution can cause on so many lives is truly eye-opening.
And it was that experience that set the tone for this EPA's approach to environmental justice.
Yeah, that heartbreaking reality.
When he said multi-generational, like, wow, wow, that's
decades and decades of impact. And this isn't the first time that the Biden administration has tried
to tackle toxic emissions from this area in particular. Tell us more about that backstory.
Yes. So back in 2022, the EPA actually opened an investigation into whether Louisiana violated
civil rights laws by letting all these
plants operate in and near St. John the Baptist Parish, which is a predominantly black community
in Louisiana that also has the highest cancer risk in the entire country. And they initially
found evidence of discrimination. But in response, Louisiana sued the EPA. They said that the Civil
Rights Act could only be enforced against state policies
that were explicitly discriminatory. And in January, a U.S. district court sided with them.
Prior to that ruling, the EPA dropped their investigation without releasing any findings
publicly. But many viewed this new rule as part of the agency's efforts to combat this pollution,
despite the setbacks with the civil rights case. Yeah, I feel like this back and forth in court and with these rules is a clear indicator of
the ongoing tensions between the EPA and Louisiana state officials. But this new rule
shows that the EPA is still fighting to help people who are in harm's way.
Absolutely. Reagan called this rule ambitious, and he noted that officials here worked hard to
protect so many communities.
Obviously, that includes the people who live in this area, Cancer Alley,
but also people in Texas, all along the Gulf Coast, the South, the Midwest,
who are all living in areas that are threatened by this kind of hazardous pollution and these kind of plants.
As for the impact here, Regan said that this rule is expected to cut more than 6,200 tons of toxic air pollutants
annually and reduce emissions of these two chemicals by 80%. It will also implement
fence line monitoring that will measure these emissions near these facilities and require the
chemical manufacturers to plug any leaks that they find. After a year of monitoring, these facilities
will be required to submit data quarterly to the EPA, and those figures will be made public so that the communities nearby can understand what is going on
and the risks that they may face. Obviously, we will continue to follow this, but that is
the latest for now. We'll be back with some headlines.
Headlines.
A Michigan court sentenced both of Ethan Crumbly's parents to 10 to 15 years in prison yesterday
for failing to stop him from carrying out a mass shooting.
You might remember that Crumbly opened fire at Oxford High School in 2021, 15 years in prison yesterday for failing to stop him from carrying out a mass shooting.
You might remember that Crumbly opened fire at Oxford High School in 2021,
killing four of his classmates. He was sentenced to life in prison, and his parents,
James and Jennifer Crumbly, were both convicted on four counts of involuntary manslaughter earlier this year, one for each victim of the shooting. The two had separate trials, but prosecutors in both cases argued
that the Crumblies bore some responsibility
for the massacre.
They were the ones who gifted their son
the handgun he used to carry out the shooting,
and they didn't take the necessary steps
to store the weapon in a safe place.
Families of the Oxford shooting victims
were present in the courtroom for yesterday's sentencing,
and many of them expressed their frustration
with how the Crumblies showed no remorse for their son's actions. Take a listen
to Nicole Bousselet, whose 17-year-old daughter was killed in the 2021 shooting.
The lack of compassion that you've shown is outright disgusting.
Not only did your son kill my daughter, but you both did as well.
This makes the Crumblys the first parents to ever be held criminally responsible
for a mass shooting committed by their child.
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said yesterday
that he hasn't found any evidence
of Israel committing genocide
against the Palestinian people in Gaza.
We don't have any evidence of genocide being created.
Austin made the remarks during a Senate committee hearing
as he pushed for the U.S.
to send more military aid to Israel.
Protesters interrupted his testimony multiple times, chanting,
Stop funding Israel and stop the genocide in Gaza.
Meanwhile, Israel claimed that more than 460 trucks of much-needed humanitarian aid arrived in Gaza yesterday.
But relief organizations say that the actual amount is much lower.
Officials from aid groups like the Red Crescent reported hundreds fewer trucks crossing into the strip on Tuesday.
And the U.N. said that many of the trucks were only half full due to Israeli inspection policies.
U.N. officials also said that even if Israel's numbers were right, it's nowhere near enough to address the worsening humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip. Before October 7th, Gaza received around 500 trucks of aid and other supplies
every single day to sustain the population.
Our friends over at Pod Save the World interviewed David Miliband,
the head of the International Rescue Committee,
about how crucial it is to keep aid flowing into Gaza.
Take a listen.
It's a catastrophe that's getting worse.
And what we know is that there's no precedent for a country that had no famine to turn into a situation where half the population are facing literally famine in the space of six months.
You can hear more of that conversation on today's episode of Pod Save the World. And things are heating up in the fight against climate change. Europe's top human rights court issued a landmark ruling yesterday
saying that the Swiss government violated citizens' human rights
by not doing more to protect them from the effects of climate change.
This case was filed by more than 2,000 older women
who said that their government has been failing to protect their health and livelihoods
during dangerously high temperatures caused by climate change.
They also said that the Swiss government must be held accountable
since it did not meet its promised reduced carbon emissions target.
Take a listen to climate activist Greta Thunberg,
who spoke with The Guardian after the court's ruling.
Today's rulings make very clear that the European states have a legal responsibility
to take real climate action and to protect people and to protect its citizens.
According to the New York Times, experts say that this is the first ruling from an international
court declaring that governments must meet their climate targets under human rights law.
Yeah, this is a huge deal and really something I'm very curious and excited to see how this
plays out in other places going forward, because the implications of this could be monumental.
Norfolk Southern, the rail company responsible for the 2023 East Palestine train derailment,
said yesterday that it agreed to settle
for $600 million in a class action lawsuit.
It's a win for the residents of the Ohio town
where dozens of hazardous chemicals
spilled from the freight train.
This led to a dangerous fire
that spewed toxic smoke into the air
and residents have reported headaches, skin rashes, and respiratory issues ever since. from the freight train. This led to a dangerous fire that spewed toxic smoke into the air,
and residents have reported headaches,
skin rashes, and respiratory issues ever since.
The company's $600 million settlement addresses a class action claim
filed by individuals within a 20-mile radius
of the initial disaster
who say that they were impacted.
The money will go towards
the future medical needs of victims,
but they are concerned
that this $600 million won't be enough. Experts told the Associated Press that it may take years to understand
the long-term health effects that this chemical disaster has had on this community.
Finally, weak is 11 points in Scrabble, so we're going to give 11 points to Mattel in Europe.
The game maker owns the rights to the board game there, and it announced yesterday that it's debuting a newer, easier version of the game.
It's called Scrabble Together, and it'll be built onto the other side of a traditional Scrabble board.
Instead of competing with words that no one ever uses in real life, like za, players complete goals on cards.
Those goals include play a vertical word and play a word with at least two
different vowels. This feels wrong in so many ways. Like I'd feel a little bit differently if
this was meant for children learning to read hooked on phonics type collaboration, but it
doesn't seem to be that. Mattel said in a statement that the new version is designed to be more accessible and less competitive.
Yeah, I'm like, do we want that?
It added that in its own research of British people, younger generations are becoming slightly less competitive.
For competitive people in the USA, that's three points right there.
You can keep winning.
Hasbro makes Scrabble in America, and according to the Associ Associated Press it has no plans to update the US version
I feel like if we started there
my anxiety would not have peaked
I feel a lot better about the situation now
Are you even a devoted Scrabble player?
No! It's just about competition
Do not dilute the rules
Just a devoted competitor
and that is what I love about you
And those are the headlines.
That is all for today.
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Check it out and subscribe at Cricut.com slash subscribe. I'm Juanita Tolliver.
I'm Priyanka Arabindi.
And we're unbeatable at Scrabble.
Or in anything.
Let's just expand this, right? Like, if I'm
competing, I'm going to win.
I will find a way to win. It doesn't matter what it is.
I might be beatable at Scrabble, but I'm
not beatable in something that I
actually will be competitive about. And that's only going to be stuff I'm good at. Period. Scrabble, but I'm not beatable in something that I actually will be competitive about.
And that's only going to be stuff I'm good at.
Period.
Scrabble, fine.
Fine, I'll give it to you.
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