What A Day - Biden's High-Wire Act
Episode Date: October 18, 2023As President Biden prepared to visit Israel, a hospital in Gaza City was hit by a devastating blast Tuesday, killing at least 500 people. Hamas blamed it on an Israeli airstrike, though Israel denied ...any involvement. Hours later, the White House confirmed that a planned summit in Jordan with Arab leaders was called off.Crooked’s Tommy Vietor joins us to explain how these new developments will complicate President Biden’s wartime trip.And in headlines: Rep. Jim Jordan fell short in the first round of voting to become House Speaker, the Justice Department is appealing the prison sentences of five members of the Proud Boys, and lowriders are officially free to cruise in the Golden State.Show Notes:What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastCrooked Coffee is officially here. Our first blend, What A Morning, is available in medium and dark roasts. Wake up with your own bag at crooked.com/coffeeFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It's Wednesday, October 18th. I'm Priyanka Arabindi.
And I'm Juanita Tolliver, and this is What A Day.
On today's show, Jim Jordan fell short in the first round of voting to become House Speaker.
Plus, Californians can now legally ride low and cruise.
But first, the Al-Ahlif Baptist Hospital in Gaza City was hit by a devastating blast in the middle of the night yesterday.
After Gazans were given a
warning by Israeli forces to evacuate northern Gaza, the hospital became a centralized location
for not only physicians and patients, but also for Palestinians who were fleeing their homes
and living within the courtyard of the hospital. The Gaza health ministry stated that at least 500
people were killed, and that number is expected to climb. They also stated
that the hospital had been targeted in recent days. Following the explosion, Palestinian
authorities blamed Israel for the airstrikes, while Israeli officials denied any involvement
and claimed that the explosion was the result of a failed rocket launch by a militant group in Gaza.
Of course, it is going to take time to get confirmation about what actually happened at the
hospital that left hundreds of Palestinian civilians dead. Absolutely. Another terribly
tragic, devastating development in such a series of, you know, similar events. And, you know,
hospital is really just another level two, because that is just so unequivocally, you know,
everybody agrees that is wrong
that to be targeted so i know a lot of eyes are on this a lot of people want answers want to know
who's responsible have u.s intelligence officials weighed in at all on you know what happened at the
hospital a pentagon spokesperson told reporters that the pentagon was aware of reports about an
attack on al-ahli hospital in g, but did not have more information to provide.
In a statement aboard Air Force One, President Biden said that he was, quote,
outraged and deeply saddened. And while he did not say who was to blame for the explosion,
he directed his national security team to, quote, continue gathering information about what exactly
happened. As we await more information, the Egyptian foreign ministry called on Israel to
quote, immediately stop this policy of collective punishment against the people of Gaza. The director
general of the World Health Organization called for the immediate protection of civilians and
health care and for the evacuation orders to be reversed. And he stopped short of blaming a
specific country for what happened at Al-Ahli Hospital. Also, Jordan's deputy prime minister
confirmed that the planned summit today with President Biden, Egyptian leaders and Palestinian for what happened at Al-Ahli Hospital. Also, Jordan's deputy prime minister confirmed
that the planned summit today with President Biden,
Egyptian leaders, and Palestinian leaders was canceled.
This came down right as President Biden
prepared to fly to the region.
Right, a lot of things changing very quickly.
You know, what happened at this hospital
certainly seems to be of a lot of importance
to a lot of other countries too,
not just Israel and
Palestine. So what does this mean for President Biden's trip at this point? It definitely shifts
the tone and the goals of the president's trip as the summit with Arab leaders in Jordan was
meant to help address regional tensions in the wake of this conflict. It was also reported that
before Jordanian officials canceled the summit, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas withdrew from the summit after the reports about the Al-Ahli Hospital.
As all of this is evolving and changing minute by minute, we sat down with Tommy Vitor, co-founder of Crooked Media, co what part of President Biden's plan is, is to encourage Prime Minister Netanyahu, both publicly and privately, to consider a ceasefire, to rein back these airstrikes, to rethink reports that Israel might be planning a ground invasion into the Gaza Strip, because I think, you know, all of those escalatory paths will end very badly for the people of Gaza and for the IDF. And,
you know, I'm just, I'm really concerned about it. Yeah, this is a very high stakes visit to say
the absolute least. It's been reported that Biden only agreed to come visit after Israel's
leadership promised to follow through on demands
to implement humanitarian aid and corridors. But does this mean that Israel will delay its ground
invasion of Gaza further until Biden leaves the region? It's almost certainly the case that they
will not launch a ground invasion while President Biden is there. You're right that the Secretary
of State Tony Blinken has been conducting this shuttle diplomacy. I think he's been to six or seven countries in
like four or five days, including multiple visits to Israel. And it sounds like Tony,
in his nine hours of meetings with Bibi Netanyahu, made Joe Biden's visit to Israel
contingent on Israel agreeing to further concessions when it comes to humanitarian relief into Gaza,
and I assume delaying any potential ground invasion. So I personally hope that there will
never be a ground invasion. I think it would be catastrophic. But it certainly seems to have
delayed that from starting, at least by making this trip.
Right. I mean, that's something we've been talking about for several days now,
and we haven't seen happen. So, you know, we hope.
Yeah.
The United Nations says that a ground invasion would violate international law. How do you think
Biden will be threading that needle during his visit?
What I think Biden's trying to do on this trip is show solidarity and support for Israel when they
have just been through the worst trauma in the nation's history, arguably.
If you look at the attack by Hamas on Israel on October 7th, I think by capita, it's sort of 10
times larger in terms of casualties than the 9-11 attacks were for the United States. So it's just a
horrific incident, a horrible trauma, like innocent civilians killed. And so President Biden is trying
to show that, you know, the United States is there for Israel. I think President Biden is trying to show that the United States is there
for Israel. I think he's also trying to warn off other terrorist groups in the region like Hezbollah,
which is based in Lebanon, from getting involved in this conflict. The United States has also moved
two aircraft carriers to the region to manage and monitor Hamas and Hezbollah. So that's part of the message. I also hope, though,
that Joe Biden is talking to Prime Minister Netanyahu about the images that we're all seeing
on the news every day of Gazans being killed, of children being pulled out of piles of rubble. I
mean, the death toll is nearly 3,000 people at the time we were recording this. I've seen over 10,000 injured.
It's mounting every day.
I just really hope that President Biden is talking to Bibi Netanyahu about showing some
restraint, slowing things down, considering a ceasefire.
Because, you know, there's like 200 hostages sitting in Gaza.
They're at risk from these airstrikes.
Innocent civilians are at risk.
We don't even know if the Hamas leadership is
still in Gaza. The question of sort of the laws of war should be underpinning all of this. But I do
hope that we'll never get to this ground invasion. And I want to ask a follow up question on the
hostages, because we know Hamas this week issued their demands through the press, oddly, but issued
those demands. And what role do you think President
Biden has in that negotiation process, if any at all? I think President Biden has been very
personally involved in the ongoing efforts to get back these hostages. He's done a call with some
of the families. Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, when he traveled to Israel, brought
the Director for Hostage Affairs with him. And I think that individual stayed in Israel to
sort of coordinate the efforts out of there. In the past, Israel has shown a very admirable
determination to get back all hostages, no matter how long it takes. There was an Israeli soldier
named Gilad Shalit who was taken hostage for five years in Israel, ended up releasing a
thousand Palestinian prisoners in exchange to get Gilad Chalit back. I imagine ultimately that some
sort of process like that is going to be the only thing that brings home these hostages. There's
likely Americans among the hostages. So I hope that's part of this conversation because,
again, every day they are in this war zone, they're at risk. Every day they
are in the hands of terrorists, they're at risk. There's children, there's elderly people, there's
a Holocaust survivor that was taken, there are badly wounded people. Hamas released their first
hostage video the other day. There's a 21-year-old girl whose arm appears to have been shattered.
You know, they're trying to show that they provide her medical treatment. But, you know, when I see her, I look at someone who's terrified and in horrible
condition. Terrified. And we also don't have explicit date stamps on that. So it's still a
question into her current situation. But I want to go back to the canceled meeting in Jordan,
because as President Biden was boarding Air Force One, that's when that cancellation was reported
and announced. And I want to talk about it in the context of deterrence in the region, because that was the
goal for that. How do you think this canceled meeting and summit will complicate the president's
efforts to deter regional actors from engaging, but also to kind of diffuse regional tensions
that we know are percolating right now? President Biden is looking to get leaders in the Gulf on board to help deter Hezbollah
from jumping into this fight, to help them urge Hamas to release women and children who they've
taken hostage, and to generally show support for Israel in this horrific post-terrorist attack
period. The other part of Joe Biden's long-term strategy, though, is,
you know, if you don't want people in the Gaza Strip to support Hamas, you have to
help provide them an alternative. That alternative should be the Palestinian Authority,
which is run by Mahmoud Abbas. Now, like that organization has been corrupt and feckless at
times. Yes, I think it's important to name that reality. Yes.
Yeah. And just not shown great leadership. But I think what the Palestinian Authority needs
is support from its neighbors to help them get funding, to help them get political legitimacy,
and to show Palestinian people a political option that isn't Hamas and potentially a path to a two-state
solution. So, you know, I think that meeting being canceled is really, it's an ominous sign.
You know, as you were saying earlier, President Biden's trip does follow a lot of work by
Secretary Blinken on the ground, his trips to Israel, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia. You know,
he's been laying the groundwork for this. So with all of that in mind, what does a successful trip for President Biden look like?
Are there any new commitments that the president is seeking?
What should we be looking out for or wanting to see from this?
Success, I hope, will look like some additional commitments on the humanitarian front from
Israel, some pushing forward of talks and diplomacy around
getting hostages back, some reassurance to the Israeli government and the Israeli people
that America has their back and will be there and willing to deter Hezbollah from attacking
Israel from the north.
So you're right.
I mean, this is a real high wire act.
This is a trip coming together in like 48 hours when these things usually take
weeks, if not months, and it's an active war zone. So listen, this is not a trip I necessarily
would have recommended, but credit to President Biden for wanting to just, I guess, dive into the
problem. Before we let you leave, Tommy, is there anything else that you think we should know or,
you know, context that's important as this trip begins?
The United States has an enormous interest in what's happening between Israel and Gaza right now. My concern about President Biden's visit is just making sure that others in the region know
that the United States cares about the people of Gaza, that we are pushing for humanitarian
supplies and a ceasefire in Gaza. And they aren't just
going to see President Biden with Bibi Netanyahu and think that the United States is complicit in
the military offensive that's happening now and whatever happens next. So that's another thing
I'm watching closely and frankly concerned about. That was our conversation with Tommy Vitor,
co-founder of Crooked Media, co-host of Pod Save America and Pod Save the World. And we will keep following all of this very closely. But that's the latest
for now. We'll be back after some ads. Let's get to some headlines. Headlines. The saga to choose the next speaker of the House continues.
Ohio's Jim Jordan, a close ally of former President Donald Trump, fell short of the 217 votes he
needed to win. 20 of his fellow Republicans refused to vote for him despite running a last-ditch
effort to bring them to his side. Some of them once again voted to put former Speaker Kevin
McCarthy back to the job, while others threw their support behind Representative Steve Scalise,
who withdrew his own bid for the Speaker's race last week. So Republicans in disarray. People
get used to it. It's not as alliterative, but it seems to make a little more sense.
In fact, Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries scored more votes than any other candidate for the position,
coming out on top with the support of all 212 House Democrats.
Clearly the only party that has their shit together.
100%. The House is set to host another floor vote today at 11 a.m. Eastern,
where Jordan hopes to turn his luck around.
But sources told NBC News yesterday that a handful of Republicans who backed Jordan in round one
will not vote for him
again, meaning that he might have even less support in round two. Either way, let's hope we
don't see a repeat of the many rounds of voting that it took to get Kevin McCarthy in place,
even though that seems to be where we're heading. And a quick reminder, Jim Jordan was one of the
147 Republicans who voted to reject the Electoral College results from Pennsylvania and Arizona
following the 2020 presidential election. His name also came up over a dozen
times in the final report from the House January 6th committee. Perhaps a good thing that he's not
able to be successful in this running, but I don't know. I don't think they could really
nominate a good candidate at this point. I don't think there's anyone. Yeah, I just want to shout
out all the Democrats who called him an insurrectionist when they cast their votes,
but also remind everybody that we are literally a month away from the government not having any more funding.
So, Republicans, pick somebody else and do it quickly, please.
Yeah, get it together, people.
And speaking of insurrectionists, the Justice Department is appealing the prison sentences handed down to five members of the Proud Boys.
Back in May, they were convicted of seditious conspiracy in the January 6th riot.
And while prosecutors didn't explain why they're appealing in their initial paperwork,
the move likely indicates that they want these guys to serve more time behind bars.
U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly, a Trump appointee,
sentenced former Proud Boys national leader Enrique Terrio
and four other members of the group to sentences
ranging from 15 to 22 years. Terrio received the longest sentence. Still, he received a much
shorter sentence than the 33 years that prosecutors originally wanted. At least 1,100 people have been
charged with federal crimes related to the attack on the Capitol so far. Earlier this summer, the
DOJ also appealed the sentencing of Oath Keepers founder Stuart Rose and four other members of that far-right group for their involvement in
the insurrection. India's top court yesterday declined to legalize same-sex marriage in the
world's most populous country, ruling that it's up to India's parliament to make that decision.
The verdict comes after the court heard more than a dozen petitions by advocates for same-sex marriage earlier this year.
Ultimately, the five-judge bench unanimously ruled against the petitioners,
saying that legalizing same-sex marriages is up to legislators.
Basically, the court agreed that it was limited in its ability to grant that right,
but also emphasized that LGBTQ plus folks should not face discrimination or harassment.
The judges also clarified that transgender folks have the right to marry,
but only on the condition that they marry someone of the opposite sex,
which is not necessarily what we wanted to hear.
Mario Dependa, one of the petitioners,
told the Associated Press that it was, quote,
a day to be disappointed, but not to lose hope.
Adding, quote,
there's been tremendous work that has gone into these petitions
and many hopes and dreams
of the queer community
attached to them
to lead lives
that most other Indians
take for granted.
The fact that the dream
could not come to fruition today
is a disappointment
for all of us.
Hopefully,
these petitioners
get what they are looking for
from these legislators.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not holding my breath,
but it would really be
a great thing to see.
And as we said, the world's most populous country. That's really important. That's a lot of people. Right. I don't know. I'm not holding my breath, but it would really be a great thing to see.
And as we said, the world's most populous country. That's really important. That's a lot of people.
Right. And finally, some good news for those who prefer to drive low and slow.
Lowriders are now officially free to cruise in the Golden State.
Governor Gavin Newsom recently signed a bill into law that lifts statewide restrictions on lowrider cruising. Lowriders have been a big part of California's car culture since the 40s, thanks to young Mexican-Americans who started the trend of customizing and tweaking their rides with bright paint jobs,
hydraulics, and later souped-up sound systems. But over the years, California imposed bans on
cruising and put strict limits on how low cars can ride. Many of those restrictions
were imposed ostensibly in an effort to curb gang violence. However, critics say the policies were
racist. I second that and gave police an excuse to target Chicanos. Some California cities like
Sacramento, Modesto and San Jose had already lifted their restrictions, but the new law makes it so that lowriders can keep rolling statewide.
Specifically, it prohibits local governments from imposing their own rules and regulations on cruising
and also lifts a previous restriction that made it illegal for the body of a car to ride closer to the ground than the bottom of its rims.
The new law is set to take effect on January 1st.
Just be careful of those
potholes you know roads and local communities tend to be neglected and that body work is expensive
y'all absolutely very exciting news for everyone who wants to cruise if you want to take me with
i'm around i'm available let me know let me know i'm just hoping for the return of pimp my ride
california edition please please please i want to see the most absurd things in your cars and Let me know. I'm just hoping for the return of Pimp My Ride, California edition.
Please, please, please.
I want to see the most absurd things in your cars and the best paint jobs.
Yes.
Exhibit never missed on the paint jobs.
Never missed.
Bring back that absolutely elite programming, please.
We beg of you.
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