What A Day - Can Austin City Limit Abortion Criminalization?
Episode Date: June 7, 2022As abortion access continues to decline on the local level, lawmakers and advocates across the country are devising new ways to protect abortion access as much as they can, where they can. Chito Vela,... an Austin City Councilmember, joins us to discuss what he’s doing to decriminalize abortion in Austin, Texas, should Roe be overturned.And in headlines: Seven states have primary elections today, a federal grand jury charged five members of the Proud Boys with seditious conspiracy, and UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson survived a no-confidence vote among Conservative members of Parliament.Show Notes:Washington Post: “Empty clinics, no calls: The fallout of Oklahoma’s abortion ban” – https://wapo.st/3xo4aZnDonate to Crooked Media’s Pride Fund – https://crooked.com/pride/Sign up for Crooked Coffee’s launch on June 21st – http://go.crooked.com/coffee-wadFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/whataday/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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it's tuesday june 7th i'm gideon resnick and i'm josie duffy rice and this is what a day where we
are holding elon musk to his contract of never purchasing our podcast that's right we're filled
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we're more expensive than twitter so exactly 45. Forty five billion is a starting offer.
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On today's show, we preview some of the primaries to watch taking place across the country today.
Plus, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson survived a no confidence vote from within
his own party.
But first, we're going to look at how abortion access is declining on a local level, even before the Supreme Court issues a likely decision that will effectively overturn Roe v. Wade.
In states like Oklahoma, for example, which has become the first state in the country to outlaw abortion quite nearly entirely, clinics that had previously been serving clients coming from other states like Texas are now quiet.
That's according to a story from The Washington Post that we'll link to that gets into the scenes at some of these facilities. Meanwhile, money that had been allocated for
travel funds to help people get from one state to another with better access is running short
in some cases as well. According to a report in the Dallas Morning News, money that had been
designated to help Texans already wasn't enough prior to the passage of Oklahoma's ban. And now
that it's been passed, those people will
have to travel even farther in the future, meaning the funds will require more resources.
The report says that in 2019, the National Network of Abortion Funds could only support about 26%
of the requests they received. The issue could be compounded as well because other neighboring
states like New Mexico might not have the resources necessary to support an influx of people coming in. This is all happening, mind you, while public
polling has recently shown that in many instances, support for abortion rights has hit new records.
Yeah, thankfully, in the midst of this, lawmakers and advocates across the country are devising
new ways to protect abortion access as much as they can, wherever they can. For example,
in Austin, City Council Member Chito Vela has proposed a resolution to decriminalize abortion in the event that Roe v. Wade gets
overturned and a trigger law that has been passed in Texas goes into effect. So Josie,
I spoke with Vela about the resolution last week and started by asking him to walk us through
what this would do. The first thing is that it will designate any alleged abortion crime as the lowest priority
for the police department, meaning the police should not be focusing on these. They should be
handling other more urgent priorities before they ever touch anything related to any abortion type crime. And the second thing that the resolution will do
is it will limit the use of city funds for any investigation regarding any alleged abortion
crime, meaning that we don't want the police to be creating an abortion crimes task force or,
you know, an abortion crimes kind of database or,
you know, anything like that. We don't want them to be staffing it up. You know, obviously,
if someone files a report, we have to take that report, but we don't want really much to be done
after the report is made. And do you have the votes necessary and the support necessary to
get this passed at this point? We do. Austin City Council is, generally speaking, very supportive of abortion rights. We do have to be careful just because we may have some conflict
with the state. And so we just want to kind of thread that needle very carefully and try to
make a resolution and policies that are as legally defensible as possible.
Yeah. So to that end, how can you legally on the local level, on the city level, circumvent
Texas state laws that are banning abortions? We're not legalizing it per se. You know,
in other words, the resolution is not saying that, oh, abortion will be legal in Texas.
So we're not going to be in direct conflict with Texas law. We're just saying that for our city, for the Austin Police Department
purposes, that we want these types of investigations, alleged crimes to be the
lowest possible priority. That in and of itself is not in direct conflict with state law. Every police department in the state
decides what its priority enforcement will be.
And there is also precedent for this
in the resolution that was passed regarding marijuana.
The city of Austin passed a resolution
saying basically that we want those
to be the lowest priority crimes
and we do not want police arresting people
for those types of crimes.
And that worked. Yeah, and to that end, I'm curious, are there other protective resolutions
in Austin that have to do with abortion reproductive rights at this point already?
So the city has a track record of supporting abortion rights and helping to provide abortion
services. And then recently, my co-sponsor of the resolution,
Vanessa Fuentes, my colleague on city council, also put forward a non-discrimination resolution,
making sure that there was no discrimination, that we will not be holding that against anybody
with regard to the provision of city services to employment, to really a whole slew of matters that
are kind of under the city's jurisdiction. So we're trying
to set up a framework to minimize the damage that could potentially be done, that will be done,
honestly, if Roe v. Wade is ultimately overturned by the Supreme Court.
And do you anticipate other cities within the state trying to kind of replicate that framework?
And what would the implications of that be? I really hope so. There is strength in numbers, and we're communicating with other
organizations around the state. And we want this to be a model for, you know, Houston can use,
that Dallas can use, that San Antonio can use, that any other city in Texas that wants to fight
this fight, we want them to just cut and paste. Do you anticipate getting any
backlash from Governor Abbott? And if so, how would you counter that? I mean, the quick answer
is yes. In particular, I would anticipate getting some backlash potentially from our Attorney
General Ken Paxton, who is currently under a felony indictment, but won his Republican primary, honestly, in a rout.
But this is policy guidance. It's just saying that this is how we want to run our city. These
are our priorities within the city. We're not in direct conflict with state law. We're not
superseding state law. We're just saying that within the city of Austin, this is not our criminal justice
priority. We have other priorities. So right now, I mean, there's no conflict with state law. So I
don't anticipate kind of a lawsuit or anything like that. They're very creative though, too.
You know, and Texas legislature only meets every other year for 140 days and they will be in
session starting January of 2023. And I am sure there will be some type of
movement, some type of reaction, some kind of response from your real conservative Republican
members. We're doing the best we can to draft it in such a way where it hopefully doesn't get
overturned. And we're ready to find the legislature. I mean, we have a lot of allies. We're
already talking with them. And I feel pretty good about mounting a very vigorous defense against anything that's moving through the
legislature. And to sort of like ground this conversation in what's most important, which is
the impact on members in your community. How have they been thinking about and responding to
the prospect of how life could change when and if Roe is overturned?
I think people are horrified.
It's already bad enough right now.
My staff and I were just touring a clinic where we went into the adolescent ward,
and they are really concerned for their patients and their ability to access reproductive health care,
to, you know, Plan B.
All of those kinds of things are at issue.
And then beyond that, we're afraid of the impact to our LGBT brothers and sisters as well.
You know, Roe v. Wade established the right to privacy.
And the right to privacy essentially forms the constitutional basis for gay marriage.
And so many others form the constitutional basis for gay marriage. And so many other forms a constitutional basis for birth control.
And so it's not just abortion rights that are threatened.
It's a whole spectrum of rights that surround Roe v. Wade that are threatened.
On the other hand, we've gotten tremendous support from my constituents, from the broader Austin community, from my colleagues,
from so many other folks who are horrified. I just never thought that we would be in the
position that we're in today. But here we are, and we've got to stand up and fight.
That was my conversation with Austin City Councilmember Chito Vela. We'll have more
on this resolution as well as the future of abortion access over the days and weeks to come.
But that is the latest for now. We are going to be back after some ads. Let's wrap up with some headlines.
Headlines. Seven states have primary elections today. That's California,
Iowa, Mississippi, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota. In California,
there are a couple key races we're watching. One of them is the Los Angeles mayoral race.
Among the candidates running is billionaire mall kingpin Rick Caruso, a former Republican
turned Democrat on paper, but not in practice. He joined
the race pretty late, but has since spent $23 million of his own money to fuel his last minute
pro-cop campaign. And he's now neck and neck with progressive Democratic Congresswoman Karen Bass
for the city's top spot. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, there's a recall vote for progressive
district attorney Chesa Boudin, who we had on the show a few weeks ago.
While San Francisco is considered liberal, the recall election has been funded largely
by right-wing donors who blame Boudin for a rise in crime, despite the fact that San
Francisco mirrors much of the rest of the country in terms of crime trends, including
those thousands of places with extremely tough-on-crime prosecutors.
Finally, over in New Mexico, incumbent Democratic Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham is up for
reelection.
Several GOP candidates have flooded the race in hopes to flip that seat.
And one of their front runners is a former television meteorologist who denies climate
change.
I will say that it is good that the adjective former is in there. If we're going to have to say that a person of that sort exists with those beliefs, you'd rather it be former, I suppose.
It's true. It's true.
A big loss for the men who aspire to be walking cans of monster energy drink, but more misogynistic.
A federal grand jury charged five members of the Proud Boys, including their leader Enrique Tarrio,
with seditious conspiracy yesterday for their role in last year's insurrection.
The indictment makes the Proud Boys the second far-right group to have members hit with the rare charge
reserved for those who plot to overthrow the U.S. government.
Lest we forget that the Oath Keepers set the trend earlier this year when their founder, Stuart Rhodes,
and 10 of his besties were charged with it as well.
Before this, Tarrio was already facing charges of conspiracy
to obstruct a federal proceeding,
resisting Capitol Police,
and destroying government property
despite not physically being at the riots.
But this new sedition charge alleges
that he carefully planned the actions
of his four henchmen slash co-defendants
that were there that day,
one of whom was the first to break
one of the building's windows using a shield he stole from a police officer. Monday's indictment shows how
the Department of Justice is widening the scope of its criminal probes to account for extremist
groups that coordinated with each other ahead of the insurrection. And it comes just days before
the first televised January 6th House hearing scheduled for this Thursday. Boris Johnson just
showed a generation of unruly
British teens that it's not the end of the world when you get caught partying. The UK Prime Minister
survived a no-confidence vote among Conservative members of Parliament yesterday, stemming from
his attendance of several illegal social gatherings during lockdown. 148 Conservative members of
Parliament voted to remove Johnson from office, short of the 180 that were needed for a majority. Still, Johnson is very much in the doghouse, or as I say in England,
in ye olde house of dogs. Yes, they do. Famously say that in England. His approval rating is around
27%, which is also my approval rating in England. Interesting. He was booed this weekend at the
Queen's Jubilee, and historically conservative prime ministers who are the subject of a no confidence vote are usually ousted within a
few months. So the odds are very much stacked against him. But Johnson's famous shaggy headed
swagger seems to be intact. Following yesterday's vote, he told his party, quote, I will lead you
to victory again and the winners will be the people of this country. I also told that to all
of the UK yesterday. This is a long running way for Josie
to inform us that she is challenging Johnson, I suppose, for the role of Prime Minister.
We both have 27% approval rating, so I think it's gonna go great.
Right, we need to get your numbers up for sure. A crushing defeat this weekend in the world of
doctors who get turned into vampires. The film Morbius did terribly at the box office after its studio Sony made the unusual decision to bring it back to theaters for a second time.
Backing up for those of you who have not been inducted into the Morbverse as we have, Morbius is a Spider-Man spinoff starring Jared Leto as the bloodthirsty Dr. Michael Morbius, which was panned virtually by everyone when it first hit theaters in April.
It notched a 17% on Rotten Tomatoes,
with critics noting its, quote,
uninspired effects, rote performances,
and borderline nonsensical story,
though they didn't say anything about the costume,
so those could be amazing.
In spite of this reception, or perhaps because of it,
internet users saw something special in Morbius.
Memes soon filled the air like the doctor's beloved bats.
And the movie took on a new life
when a 24-7 stream of it went viral on Twitch last month,
complete with an active comment section,
which introduced thousands to the fan-generated catchphrase,
it's Morbin time.
You know, the thing that we've been saying all week.
A campaign called hashtag Morbius sweep began,
hoping the movie would dominate at the Oscars.
Fans proposed sequels like Morbius, The Rise of Morbius.
And eventually Jared Leto himself and big brands like KFC made posts
and tried to get in on the fun, by which, of course, I mean, they ruined the fun.
Now, Sony clearly hoped that they could drift off the ironic fandom around Morbius
to get some actual Morb heads in the seats, leading them to re-release the movie on a thousand screens.
But it turns out people who love roasting something won't necessarily pay to see it,
and the movie brought in just about $85 per screen. That wouldn't even cover the co-pay to
visit Dr. Morbius, something we would, by the way, never advise despite any ZocDoc reviews you might see.
And it tells us that there are more similarities than differences between the overly confident
Icarus and the vampire Dr. Morbius. I just want to say that this headline is why people should
listen to What A Day. It includes so much. Icarus, KFC. You'll learn about Morbintime.
Yeah, Morbintime. Jared Leto. You've been cooped up all week. I haveus, KFC. You'll learn about Morbin Time. Yeah, Morbin Time. Jared Leto.
You've been cooped up all week.
I have. Your kids have been talking to you
about Morbin Time. Right.
What is this? Now you know.
Now I know. I was going to say also
the concept of people
not paying to see
something that they love to roast
would also apply to me
if I ever held an event that required money.
I would definitely pay to roast you.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
Interesting.
All right.
Well, maybe there's a dual event.
We get your approval numbers up.
We get mine down.
It helps muddy the waters in terms of the race in England.
Right.
All right.
Those are the headlines.
One more thing before we go.
This Thursday, June 9th, our very own Travelle will be co-hosting Pods of America,
a live and on tour at the theater at Ace Hotel in Los Angeles.
Tickets are going fast.
Visit cricket.com slash events to get yours.
I would pay to see them in person, and I get to see them every Sunday.
I would pay to get into the Zoom to work.
Yeah, I would too.
That is all for today.
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