What A Day - Chicago Teachers Fight To Keep ICE Out Of Schools

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Millions of kids have started school over the past few weeks – that includes students in Los Angeles, Washington, D.C, and now Chicago, all cities targeted by the Trump administration for immigratio...n enforcement and, of course, crime. It's worth saying that, like in other cities that Trump has mentioned as evil dens of criminal miscreants, violent crime has gone down in the city of Chicago over the last year. But the president, who posted an "Apocalypse Now" inspired meme over the weekend, implying he wants to go to "war" with Chicago, doesn't seem to care much about facts and figures. But teachers do. So to learn more about how teachers in Chicago are handling a new school year and the potential for more federal incursions on the city, we spoke to Stacy Davis Gates, the president of the Chicago Teachers Union. And in headlines: revised job numbers show a much weaker job market than previously thought, Israel strikes Qatar, dealing a major blow to ceasefire talks, and American high school students' test scores hit a historic low.Show Notes:Check out the Chicago Teachers Union – https://www.ctulocal1.org/Call Congress – 202-224-3121Subscribe to the What A Day Newsletter – https://tinyurl.com/3kk4nyz8What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Wednesday, September 10th. I'm Jane Koston, and this is what a day. The show contemplating why everyone who wrote Convected Sex Offender Jeffrey Epstein a 50th birthday message seemed to write something like, Happy Birthday to my favorite sex offender. I hope you enjoy all the sex offending you'll get to do in the future. Weird, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:00:30 On today's show, the U.S. responds to Israel strike on Hamas' political leadership in Qatar. And revised jobs numbers show a weaker labor market than initially thought. But let's start with schools. Millions of kids have started school over the past few weeks. That includes students in Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., and now Chicago. All cities targeted by the Trump administration for immigration enforcement and, of course, crime. Here is President Donald Trump speaking on Tuesday morning. 50 people.
Starting point is 00:01:00 murdered in Chicago in recent weeks with hundreds being shot, and it's time to stop this madness. The people of our country need to insist on protection, safety, law, and order. It's worth saying that, like in other cities that have been mentioned by Trump as evil dens of criminal miscreants, violent crime has gone down in the city of Chicago over the last year. But something tells me that the president, who posted an apocalypse-now-inspired meme over the weekend, implying he wants to go to, quote, war with Chicago, doesn't care much about facts and figures. But teachers do.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Because the job of an educator isn't just about teaching math, science, and how Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton differed on the notion of federal power. It's about acting as a coach, a therapist, and a caring friend. And about making sure kids are getting to school and home safe, even if they or their parents, are undocumented. So to talk more about how teachers in Chicago are handling a new school year and the potential for more federal incursions on the city. I spoke to Stacey Davis-Gates.
Starting point is 00:02:00 She's the president of the Chicago Teachers Union. Stacey Davis-Gates, welcome to what a day. Thank you for having me. How are you today? I'm doing well. I understand that immigration enforcement stepped up in Chicago starting on Sunday. What are you seeing on the ground? Chaos, uncertainty, a lot of fear and intimidation.
Starting point is 00:02:21 You know, the Sunday before school starts on Monday, The alphabet boys are across the street from one of the largest high schools in our city. And by alphabet boys, you mean ice. I mean any number of them, actually. We've seen any configuration of DHS, ice. The list that goes on. So, you know, I'm always clear to say that because they come in all forms and in all letters. And so what that means the next day, families are.
Starting point is 00:02:55 going to have some trepidation in terms of how they show up in those neighborhoods. And that's problematic. We are also on high alert from all of the lessons we are learning from D.C. right now. So we want to make sure that as educators, we are both providing the historical and the cultural context of now, but also making sure that we're connected with the families we serve and the students we serve to remind them of both their constitutional and sanctuary rights in this city. I think that that goes to my next question. You mentioned educators. How are they feeling? How are teachers feeling? What are their biggest concerns as they start a new school year in all of this? Well, I think it's manifold. I think one of the things that we are focused in on is getting
Starting point is 00:03:43 young people inside the building. In order for school to work, we have to be in a position where students are in front of us in some way, shape, or form. We know in L.A. that they've had to expand their virtual learning options because there are families who won't come. We know that in D.C. that some schools and some teachers and some community coalitions are picking students up and taking them to school because of the reticence that families have there as well. So our members in this moment are troubleshooting, their problem solving, They're worried about the social, emotional toll that this type of terrorism brings to young people, how to help them hold that. Back in 2019, we used the lessons from Trump's first term to basically say, we're going to negotiate a contract that enshrines the sanctuary protections of our state, our county, and our city into our contract.
Starting point is 00:04:45 We did that. However, in 2025, we've had to double down on sanctuary and expand it. So we had to enshrine black history to make sure that we are teaching a complete and dimensional history of our country. We've had to work hard to reopen school libraries to meet the moment in the age of disinformation and bad media. So we are doing a lot of things to help secure the education of young people. people, our queer students, our transgendered students, we've had to double down protections
Starting point is 00:05:21 and enshrine them in our contract. We took the mantle this time and said, let's trumpproof our school district. So far, what it has helped us do is create community with the school district, create community with all the workers in the school building, provide avenues and options and how we communicate with the families we serve. And it also helps the district create training modules and policies that respond to the contract, which means that all of the stakeholders in the school community have some sort of awareness and they have a role to play. Those things give people some sort of comfort and support because it's solidarity, right? These are history lessons that I used to teach as a high school history teacher. These were not lessons that we
Starting point is 00:06:10 were going to learn as human beings in 2025, but here we are. wanted to ask, are you working with elected officials and other community members right now on all of this? Well, unlike years past, we have a better working relationship with the mayor of the city. And that has helped to unify all parts of the school community, as well as different parts of our city. If I'm honest with you, I haven't seen Chicago United in this way in quite a long time. It feels good to know that every member of our school community is presenting a united front and seeking to protect our young people. We are creating opportunities now
Starting point is 00:06:50 for more dimensional and fruitful engagements with our families on a regular basis, hosting town halls, hosting webinars, hosting trainings, making sure we are visible both before and after school, handing out know-your-rights information, so folks have a basis for which to understand the chaos, connecting with other community and legal organizations to make sure that people have the best information.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's been reported that one of our members, a teacher's assistant that serves immigrant families, that her husband was detained. So we are working to support that member and connecting them with resources that should be able to help. But like the only anecdote to this moment is our solidarity. And so we are putting that on steroids. A lot is asked of teachers right now, work that goes well beyond teaching math and English and history. And that's even before all of this happening. But it sounds like Chicago's teachers have the resources they need in this moment. No, we don't, actually.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And that's why we are so offended, quite frankly, by this overly surveilled moment in Chicago history. Right. I mean, I want to know, like, what do your school communities, what do your teachers need, what do students need, that isn't sending in the National Guard to walk around the loop and not do anything? We need everything and then some. Look, this mayor has done a lot. Mayor Brandon Johnson has done a lot to help renew our faith and government in Chicago. And that costs money. So we are rebuilding school libraries. We would like to rebuild all of them. at the same time. So federal funding would help with that. Right now, the Department of Education has stopped offering grants to school districts that are rebuilding their school libraries. We want that restore. We want the Medicaid cuts restored as well because what many people don't know is that school districts get reimbursements. And those reimbursements fund social workers. They fund school nurses. They fund valuable supports and resources for our special education students in
Starting point is 00:09:08 the system. We want all those things restored and expanded because those are the things that help us meet the needs of the young people that are in our care Monday through Friday. We have sports teams in the city right now who have a difficult time obtaining transportation. We could use support for that. Safe passage and crossing guards. There are many things that federal support can help to undergird in the city and the National Guard and any number of the alphabet boys are not a part of that algorithm. In fact, I fear that it's going to set it's bad. I have two final questions for you because you talked about the support that you need. And, you know, I have a lot of listeners who care about education, care about Chicago, care about teachers. How can we
Starting point is 00:09:57 support you? But then I also want to ask, you now are in a space in which you can speak to other educators out there who might be looking at seeing increased immigration enforcement or the National Guard on their streets. Teachers in New Orleans, teachers in Baltimore. So first, what support can we offer you? And second, do you have any final words of inspiration or wisdom that you want to share with other educators who are worried about this happening on their streets? Well, what Americans, people who care about human beings can do is that we can resist in every area in which we are activated. We get to say no to this. For the past couple of weekends, Chicago has showed up and shown out and demonstrating and showing our resistance to this type of
Starting point is 00:10:45 terror and chaos. So when there is a march, join us in that march. Join us in walking children to school every morning. Join us in making sure that they make it home safely. Make sure that you check on the kids. Make sure you see them out in the different cities in which they reside and be a safe space for them in truth. Our government is supposed to care for children, not terrorize children, and make sure we're drawing lines in the sand on that. Encouraging words is that, you know, I have had the unenviable leadership task of helping carry our union through a pandemic. And now we are facing down federal occupation. What I would say in both of these situations, the only that helps to keep us going and to get to the other side of these calamities is solidarity.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Solidarity is the anecdote to white supremacy, to patriarchy, to terrorism. Because what it does is that it gives you an opportunity to work hand in glove with someone from a different generation, someone from a different gender, someone of a different race. And in this moment, I am saying that we keep each other safe. I would encourage a collective commitment to safety and to humanity. Stacey Davis-Gates, thank you so much for joining me. Thank you for doing this, because this too is the sign of resistance that we need. And so I would encourage you to maintain this work as well. So thank you for allowing your platform to encourage our constitutional democracy and our solidarity. That was my conversation with Stacey Davis-
Starting point is 00:12:35 Gates, President of the Chicago Teachers Union. We'll get to more of the news in a moment, but if you like the show, make sure to subscribe, leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts, watch us on YouTube, and share with your friends. More to come after some ads. What a day is brought to you by Seoul. I still love to go out, but I'm a not always in the mood to drink. Luckily, I found a great alternative, Sol's out-of-office gummies. They give me that same light, happy buzz without a hangover, sugar, or awkward next morning. Soul is a wellness brand that believes feeling good should be fun and easy. Soul specializes in delicious hemp-derived THC and CBD products designed to boost your mood and help you unwind.
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Starting point is 00:14:32 And this makes it very clear that President Trump inherited a much worse economy by the Biden administration than ever reported. That's White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt's reaction to new numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which show that the U.S. added nearly a million fewer jobs between April 24 and March 2025 than previously believed. It's the largest preliminary revision to jobs data on record, and it's less than half the amount of jobs the agency had initially indicated. had been added. And now all eyes are on the Federal Reserve, which could cut interest rates next week
Starting point is 00:15:05 as a response to the weakening labor market. Most of the data covers the labor market under former President Joe Biden, but Trump isn't happy with BLS either. The new numbers come just weeks after he fired the BLS Commissioner over previous jobs numbers he didn't like, saying they were, quote, rigged against him. So if you think your job prospects are bleak, it's not in your head. And neither is that hole in your pocket. The U.S. Census Bureau said, Tuesday that inflation wiped out household income gains in 2024. But the richest 10% of households got lucky seeing their incomes rise. Not as lucky, women and black people who lost ground. Oh, that's me. Israel launched a strike on the capital of Qatar, Doha, on Tuesday, targeting Hamas leadership.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Six people died, according to the militant group, including five of its members. But Hamas said no high-ranking officials were killed. The strike dealt a major blow to talks aimed at a ceasefire and Trump's attempts to bring the war between Israel and Hamas to an end. Kutcher has so far played a crucial role as a mediator in the U.S.-backed peace efforts. But after the attack, the country suspended its role in those talks. Kutra's foreign ministry said in a statement that the attack is a, quote, flagrant violation of all international laws and norms. The extraordinary strikes prompted the White House to issue a rare rebuke of Israel. Press Secretary Leavitt told reporters Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:16:31 Unilaterally bombing inside Qatar, a sovereign nation and close ally of the United States that is working very hard in bravely taking risks with us to broker peace does not advance Israel or America's goals. Leavitt added that Trump was not aware of plans for the attack and said he promised Qatar's leaders that it will not happen again. Because we can always count on the Israel defense forces to not do something.
Starting point is 00:16:55 When I look at these scores, and I've made literacy my number one priority during my term as Secretary of Education, because I do believe that if our students cannot read, they're not going to be successful in anywhere. And I think the underlying reason that math scores and science scores are down so far is because first and foremost, reading scores are so low. Education Secretary Linda McMahon addressed the historically low scores for the country's high school students and core subjects on Fox News Tuesday. According to the nation's report card, a decade-long slide in high schoolers' reading and math
Starting point is 00:17:34 performance persisted during the pandemic, and 12th grader scores dropped to their lowest level in more than 20 years. And that's just an incredibly devastating trend to look at in our country. In reading, the average score in 2024 was the lowest score in the history of the assessment, which began in 1992. And in math, the average score in 2024 was the lowest since 2005. when the assessment framework changed significantly. Why is this happening?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Experts say aside from COVID-19 lockdowns, school closures, and related issues such as heightened absences, potential underlying factors include children's increased screen time, shortened detention spans, and a decline in reading longer form writing. So what do we do about it? I'm sure the woman actively trying to dismantle the education department has great ideas on how to solve low literacy rates among our youth. I think the money's not being spent,
Starting point is 00:18:25 where it needs to be spent, and that's at the states. And that's why the president and I are certainly on a path and a mission to return education to the states. I give our country an F on its midterm report card. Do you think that any of this is a sci-up by the U.S. government? Entirely possible. I mean, our government and other governments have admitted that they've tried to use UFOs to cover secret projects. That's an actual exchange between South Carolina Republican Representative Nancy Mace and a witness during a congressional hearing Tuesday on a topic that impacts us all. Unidentified
Starting point is 00:19:06 flying objects. Conspiracy theories abound about UFOs, but a House Oversight Committee Task Force called the Task Force on the declassification of federal secrets because, sure, heard from five witnesses, including military veterans who said they've seen UFOs. Chaos ensued over the radio as the object approached rapidly. I heard my friend screaming, it's coming right at us, is coming right for us, and now it's right here. The committee also played a never-before-seen video
Starting point is 00:19:37 that appears to show a missile hitting a flying object off the coast of Yemen. And while the hearing didn't provide answers, it did lead to a bipartisan conclusion. Something is out there. Here's Florida Democratic Representative Jared Moskowitz. I don't really know what is true. I don't know on this subject.
Starting point is 00:19:56 But I do know when we're being lied to. And we are definitely being lied to. There's just no doubt about that. Fantastic. And that's the news. go. Apparently, the Department of Defense was too confusing for Trump, so now it's just the Department of War. Subtle. On this week's Potsay of the World, Ben and Tommy break down the department's rebrand, plus the latest on Israel and Gaza, former Brazilian president
Starting point is 00:20:39 Jaira Bolsonaro's trial, protests in Indonesia, and political drama in France. Then, former United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice joins to talk about the biggest global challenges facing democracy right now. Head to Potsay of the World's feed wherever you get your pod or on YouTube. That's all for today. If you like the show, make sure you subscribe, leave a review, beware of Chagas, or the kissing bug disease, then tell your friends to listen.
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