What A Day - Democrats Shut Down DHS
Episode Date: February 13, 2026Capitol Hill was surprisingly busy this week. Republicans and Democrats yelled at one another, Republicans yelled at other Republicans, and amazingly, some actual business got done – sort of. But i...t looks like it wasn’t enough to avoid a partial government shutdown. For more on a wild week in Congress, we spoke with Burgess Everett. He’s the Congressional bureau chief for Semafor.And in headlines, President Donald Trump is losing to former President Joe Biden in the polls, a federal judge blocks the Pentagon from punishing Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly, and after a long two months, the immigration crackdown in Minnesota is finally ending.Show Notes: Check out Burgess's work – www.semafor.com/author/burgess-everett Call Congress – 202-224-3121 Subscribe to the What A Day Newsletter – https://tinyurl.com/3kk4nyz8 What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcast Follow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/ For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It's Friday, February 13th.
I'm Jane Koston, and this is what a day.
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On today's show, President Donald Trump is once again facing off with former President Joe Biden in the polls.
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And after a long two months,
the immigration crackdown in Minnesota is finally ending.
But let's start with Congress.
Capitol Hill was surprisingly busy this week.
Republicans and Democrats yelled at one another.
Republicans yelled at other Republicans.
And amazingly, some actual business got done.
Sort of.
But as of our recording, it looks like it wasn't enough to avoid a partial government shutdown.
On Thursday, Senate Democrats blocked a bill that would have funded the Department of Homeland Security without running in federal immigration enforcement.
It included no end to immigration and customs enforcement.
enforcement agents hiding their faces, no requirements that they show ID and no end to racial
profiling, which are just a few of Democrats' demands before agreeing to fund DHS. But Senate Democrats
aren't ready to back down anytime soon. What a day newsletter writer Matt Berg spoke to
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday. This debate is killing Trump. 90% of Americans
have seen the videos that show the brutal slayings of so many. And, you know, and, you
have shown how they don't obey the law. They'll just knock in someone's door without a warrant.
They'll say, we're arresting you. We're not telling you why. And they put you in a dark cage with
no ability to have a phone, have a lawyer, etc. And so overwhelmingly, Americans are on our side.
Americans are also siding with Democrats against President Trump's tariffs, according to polling Pew Research
Center released last week. We mentioned yesterday that the House voted to rescind
President Trump's tariffs on Canada Wednesday, an important sign that maybe, just maybe,
Congress doesn't love tariffs either. So for more on a wild week in Congress, I spoke to Burgess Everett.
He's a congressional bureau chief for Semaphore.
Burgess, welcome to Waddey. Hey, Jane, thanks for having me. Let's start with the Department of Homeland
Security. On Thursday, Senate Democrats blocked a spending bill that would have funded the agency
with no changes to immigration enforcement. And if Congress doesn't make a deal to fund DHS by Saturday,
a swath of the agency will shut down.
What do we know right now?
The shutdown's happening.
The Senate is gone.
These members are scattered all over, not just the country, but the earth right now.
A bunch of them went to Munich.
So the majority leader, John Thune, says he'll call people back when there's a deal,
but they're not really close to a deal at this point.
And so we're heading into our third shutdown of this Congress.
It's as dysfunctional as the institution can be.
and if you want to kind of zoom out about how little effort there is being put to solve this problem,
they left Thursday at 415 before a shutdown 36 hours later.
So I can't recall ever seeing that in my time covering Capitol Hill.
Okay.
The Senate basically dipped.
Like, why is so little effort being made to make a deal?
I mean, they're so far apart.
And part of it is Democrats, honestly, Jane, they think they have the high ground here.
politically, and that that usually translates to the policy debate here as well. I mean, you see the polls.
Americans think ICE has generally overreached. I know Republicans back Trump, but a lot of independent voters and certainly Democratic voters who are Democratic leaders are responding to here in Congress, they're reacting to that.
And so they're really far apart. I mean, when you have the Democrats not even willing to entertain a two-week funding extension for a critical, I would say, government agency,
That gives you a sense of not only how far apart they are, but how kind of uncompromising Democrats are right now.
They just feel like the wind is at their backs on this issue.
I also, and I wanted to ask you, I don't think I've ever seen a partial government shutdown before where it's just like one agency.
And technically, I believe that 90% of the people who work for DHS across all of the departments are still going to have to come to work, even though only a small percentage are going to be paid.
So has that ever happened before?
So the 2018-2020 border shutdown, which now we have to be very specific about, which shutdowns were talking about because there have been so many.
The one over the Trump's border wall was a partial shutdown, but a larger swath of the government.
So that was not a full government shutdown like the one in the fall was.
And you're correct.
A bunch of these folks are going to have to come to work without pay people, TSA, Coast Guard, FEMA, places like that.
Now, I don't have a full answer on this yet, but I do not.
know the Trump administration has $75 billion plus to fund ICE CBP operations across the country
from the big, beautiful bill last year. Now, I saw how creative the Trump administration
wasn't paying defense department officials and folks like that during the last shutdown. So I do
kind of wonder, do they dip into that money to pay some of these other government workers?
So what's next? Like, it doesn't seem like anyone's moving on this. A lot of people are out of the
country. Are we at least in a week-long partial shutdown?
That's what it looks like to me.
The Senate's not supposed to come back until February 23rd.
Now, I have two small silver linings moving forward.
One of those is Democrats, Patty Murray, the top Democrat on the Appropriations Committee,
just told me a few minutes ago that they're preparing an offer, counteroffer to the Republicans this weekend.
So, still talking, right?
The other silver lining is no one's talking about the substance of these offers.
I know that's a weird thing to say, why is that a silver lining?
usually that's a sign that negotiations have gone completely south.
When somebody leaks an offer, they publish it, and it just shows that things have fallen apart, right?
And so those two things kind of make me think, hey, there's still some positive momentum here.
On Wednesday, the House voted to end Trump's tariffs on Canada with six Republicans alongside most Democrats voting to do so.
Most of those Republicans are probably not even running again.
And it's worth noting that this is more symbolic because Trump obviously is going to,
to not sign that.
But in general, we're starting to hear more discomfort from Republicans about Trump's tariffs,
specifically from members in battleground states.
What are you hearing?
Yeah, I mean, the Senate was actually ahead of the House on this because the House had used
this.
I won't get too deep into it, but they'd use their own rules to shield their members from
these votes.
Yes, we actually are going to get to it because this is a show where we do get deep, but
please continue.
And so this will come back to the Senate.
The Senate will almost certainly pass it and will go to Trump's
desk where he'll veto it. I do think the number of Republicans willing to vote against the
president on this is not equal to the number of Republicans who are uneasy with the tariffs.
You know, if this was some secret ballot vote, you'd see a way more Republicans breaking with
the president. The policy, though, isn't always what motivates their votes. The president has
shown that he is so upset when Republicans oppose him. You know, you go back a few weeks to this
Venezuela resolution in the Senate where he says they should all be primary.
for voting against me and two of them flipped this week on the House tariff vote. He says,
I'm going to primary anyone who votes against me and only six of them vote for it. And I think,
you know, 20, 30 might have been considering it. It goes to show how personal he takes these votes
and the politics of them. You mentioned this a little bit and I did want to get to it because
over the past year, Speaker Mike Johnson had basically barred any discussion of getting rid of
Trump's tariffs. But Tuesday night, there was kind of a Republican rebellion. And
now that bar is over, which could lead to more anti-tariff votes. Can you tell me a little bit more
about what comes next on that front? The things that the Senate has passed, I think, would translate
probably to the House, because again, you're only going to have a handful of Republicans
willing to break with the president. And the only reason that rule ended in the House was because
of these retiring Republicans at Thomas Massey, who fears nothing from Trump at this point because
they're in a blood war in their primary. I mean, Democrats can launch these votes now with some
impunity, and so I think you'll probably see it on Mexico. Brazil has been another one. You probably
would see it on European countries and things like that, all of our allies. At some point,
they will lose their political salience. The more of them pile up, the more Trump vetoes them.
However, when Trump vetoes them, that means they have to vote on them again. So these loyalty tests
are only going to become more frequent and give Republicans more opportunities to break with
the president. Also on Wednesday, the House passed the Save Act, which is actually just an
updated version of legislation at the House passed last year. What's changed since then?
And what does the Save Act do?
Save America Act, actually. The Save Act turned into the Save America Act. Basically, what happened
was they fused the ideas of needing photo ID to vote and also needing proof of citizenship.
So, yeah, those passed the House. And just to clarify, what would the Save America Act change
if it was signed into law? Because I know that as far as I can tell, it would mean that you would
need a passport to vote, which if I'm a Democrat, I'm thinking, that's actually kind of awesome
based on if you look at the numbers as to which Americans have passports. Yeah, I mean, I don't know
the particulars of every state, but it would create that federal standardization to that. And I have
heard some Republicans say, well, the coalitions have been so scrambled at this point that it may not
actually hurt Democrats. But I've heard no bud from Democrats. Only one House Democrat, Henry
Quay, are voted for it. So it also feels there's a little bit of a show.
and skins exercise to it at this point. And there's a lot of sort of false hope, I would say,
being built across conservative circles that this could somehow pass the Senate. Yeah, that was actually
my next question, because it seems really clear that it's not going to pass the Senate. You've
already seen Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski from Alaska announce her opposition.
So one, why is this false hope building? Is that just kind of a Trump thing? And two, why is it not
going to pass a Senate? Okay. I mean, Trump wants to kill the legislative filibuster. So that
That's the primary hurdle to a piece of legislation like this, which is that you have all the Republicans to vote for it.
You still don't have 60 Democrats can block it.
So just to begin with, Trump wants to get rid of that.
Now, there's other Republicans like Mike Lee who want to kind of find a way around the 60 vote threshold.
It's unworkable, at least in the eyes of Republican leaders, because it would open up all these other avenues to majority votes, where if you have the Save America Act, it also has Obamacare subsidies attached to it.
and also repudiation of Trump's tariffs.
So nobody's actually entertaining, doing it in the Republican leadership right now.
This was, compared to last year, a very eventful week in Congress.
Lots of people yelling at each other.
Lots happening.
We didn't even get to the indictment, the attempted indictments.
I know.
An attempted indictment of six members of Congress, which was based on a statute that I had to look up.
What do you think we can expect from the rest of the year?
What can we be looking forward to or fearing?
Boy, I mean, it's so hard to predict.
I do think one thing I'm pretty confident is this is not the typical run the ball for three yards midterm year.
Like, I'm not preparing for, like, nothing happening in them to just kneel the ball down and go to the midterms.
It just doesn't feel like that kind of year.
It kind of did a few weeks ago, but then the Venezuela operation happened, and ever since, it seems like it's been total chaos.
We have a Federal Reserve fight right now in the Senate whether to replace.
the chairman is going to happen later this year. So there's going to be a lot of interesting stuff
happening just in Congress. And then there's the X factor of what the president's doing and how does
Congress respond to it. I mean, just that indictment piece that we talked about,
Senator Kane told me that was like the main thing Democrats were talking about this week when
they should have been talking about the Department of Homeland Security. Like, they are having to
react to these things in real time. And it's affecting decisions for the entire government.
So strap yourself in. I just think it's going to be a crazy year.
Burgess, as always, thank you for joining me.
Thanks, too.
That was my conversation with Burgess Everett, Congressional Bureau Chief at Semaphore.
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Here's what else we're following today.
I have proposed, and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude.
A significant drawdown has already been underway this.
week. And we'll continue through the next week.
Borders are Tom Holman announced Thursday that the two-month-long surge of federal immigration
enforcement into Minneapolis has ended. The decision comes after more than 3,000 federal
immigration agents were sent to Minnesota as part of what Minnesota Democratic Governor Tim Walls
called, quote, an unprecedented federal invasion in all aspects of life. Homan argued that
the surge had left the state, quote, safer, and thanked state officials for their assistance.
But Minneapolis Democratic Mayor Jacob Fry emphasized the trauma the search had caused in the city.
Writing on Twitter, quote,
This operation has been catastrophic for our neighbors and businesses, and now it's time for a great comeback.
In January, immigration officers in Minneapolis killed two American citizens, Alex Prattie and Renee Good.
While Homo was a Minnesota Thursday, the leaders of three federal immigration enforcement agencies were back on the hill,
this time answering questions from the Senate Homeland Security Committee,
Questions from Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul like,
can you be mean to federal immigration officials?
With Alexander Pretti, he's filming in the middle of the street.
We see two women that are, as you watch the video,
job boning, complaining, protesting, yelling,
maybe not being nice, but they're protesting away.
Let's keep the videos stopped.
And so my question to Mr. Scott first is,
is yelling at ICE officers or border patrol.
Is that a form of domestic assault on the officers?
No, sir.
Mr. Lyons.
No, sir.
Stop.
Great.
Glad we got that cleared up after two people were killed
and dozens of protesters arrested.
A federal judge agreed to block the Pentagon
from punishing Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly
for participating in a video that called on trips to resist unlawful orders.
The judge said the paper.
Pentagon, quote, trampled on Kelly's rights after threatening to take away his retirement
rank and pay. Kelly, a former Navy pilot, spoke out after the ruling in a video posted on
Twitter. Today, a federal court made clear that Pete Hegseth violated the Constitution when he tried
to punish me for something I said. But this case was never just about me. This administration
was sending a message to millions of retired veterans that they too can be censured or demoted
just for speaking out.
Kelly had sued in federal court
to block his January 5th century
Pete Heggseth.
The judge's order prohibits the Pentagon
from implementing or enforcing Kelly's punishment
while his lawsuit is pending.
Hegsef said in a post on Twitter,
quote, this will be immediately appealed
because it's not like he has other things to do.
Do you see Nicholas Maduro
as the legitimate leader of Venezuela?
Yes, without any doubt.
So yes, I can tell you that President Nicolas Maduro is the legitimate president.
I will tell you this as a lawyer that I am.
They are both President Maduro and Celia Flores, the First Lady, are both innocent.
Well, well, well, so much for regime change, am I right?
Venezuela's acting president, Delci Rodriguez, spoke with NBC News's Meet the Press moderator,
Christian Welker, for an exclusive interview in Caracas.
Rodriguez became Venezuela's top leader after the U.S., you know, captured Nicolas Maduro last
month in the middle of the night from its compound and brought him to the U.S. to face drug
and weapons charges.
But Rodriguez still appears to be playing the Trump administration's game.
She met with U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Wednesday.
Wright was in Venezuela for a firsthand assessment of the country's oil industry.
The visit further asserts the U.S. government's self-appointed role in turning around
Venezuela's dilapidated energy sector, because obviously, all of this is about oil.
Right?
Rodriguez told NBC News she's been invited to the White House and expects to visit at some point.
Sometimes you don't really know what you've got till it's gone, or until it's left the White House.
Axios has taken a look at several national surveys with the, quote, same alarming trend.
According to some recent polls, voters now think former President Joe Biden was better overall than Trump.
And on top of that, an NBC poll found that, quote, 49% of adults strongly disapprove of how Trump has handled border security and immigration.
That's about a 10% increase from last summer.
In other words, Trump has frittered away his political capital on the key issues that got him elected.
And that's the news.
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