What A Day - Facebook's Status: It's Complicated
Episode Date: October 5, 2021Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram were offline for six hours yesterday in what’s been called the most sustained and the largest outage for the company in recent memory. It came a day after CBS aired ...an interview with a Facebook whistleblower, and on the same day the company filed a dismissal in an anti-trust lawsuit by the federal government.The latest Supreme Court term began, yesterday, and there is a lot to keep our eyes on with the current 6-3 conservative majority. The court is going to hear arguably the most important 2nd Amendment case since at least 2008, possibly the most impactful reproductive health ruling in decades, and more.And in headlines: union members of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees voted to authorize a strike, Senate Republicans vow to not raise the country’s debt ceiling, and Clint Eastwood won a $6.1 million lawsuit against a CBD company.Show Notes:Washington Post: “Facebook apps coming back online after widespread outage” – https://wapo.st/3BcQ3WuWall Street Journal: “The Facebook Whistleblower, Frances Haugen, Says She Wants to Fix the Company, Not Harm It” – https://on.wsj.com/3AcO8zEBalls and Strikes – https://ballsandstrikes.org/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It's Tuesday, October 5th. I'm Gideon Resnick.
And I'm Josie Duffy Rice. And this is What A Day, where we didn't even notice the Facebook
outage because we were busy doing something called living in the present.
Yeah, I was on a beautiful mountain, so I was completely unplugged the whole time.
Please clap.
On today's show, we're going to highlight some of the most important cases that are headed to the Supreme Court, plus the union for many film and TV crew members overwhelmingly said yes to
authorizing a strike. But first, yesterday was an insane day for Facebook,
following an already tumultuous few weeks or months or years,
depending on how you're measuring it.
But Jake, I want to start with this because I'm trying to fire up Facebook here on my phone
and no dice. So what's up with this outage?
I love that. Sounds like my parents trying to use their phones.
That's how one MSNBC anchor was handling this big Facebook
outage across the globe for much of Monday. And this hours long outage came after weeks of
revelations about Facebook from a series of Wall Street Journal stories. Some of that we've talked
about on the show before. But Gideon, let's start trying to piece together this trainwreck with the
outage first. So what do we know as of record time Monday night? Trainwreck is definitely right. So some of the first reported issues with Facebook and its apps, namely Instagram and
WhatsApp, were around 1140 a.m. Eastern, and it took about six hours actually for the sites to
even begin to start coming back online. The Washington Post referred to it as the most
sustained and the largest outage for Facebook in its very least recent memory.
And beyond the jokes about all of this throughout the day that, you know, we have seen and taken
part in, there are really billions who rely on WhatsApp throughout the world for all kinds of
communication. People here talking to family members abroad, not to mention business disruptions
that this caused and more
pedestrian things like smart TVs and other devices that people use Facebook logins to get into. There
was a big domino effect here. And many people said that this was, for all of those reasons,
yet another example of why this company should be broken up already. We're going to get to news on
that part in just a moment. Yeah, absolutely. So at this point, what do we know about why it actually went offline? That is the question, right? So as of record time,
we don't have a full, full accounting of what all went on yesterday. But beginning with yesterday
afternoon, Facebook's chief technology officer said that there were, quote, networking issues. And to be clear, this was all going well beyond difficulties for just
users. So for example, the Post reported that Facebook's own internal communications platform
was down for a majority of the day. And the Times also reported that at one point during the day,
employees were not able to physically even enter the building. Mike Isaac from the Times tweeted
that Facebook sent a small team
to one of Facebook's California data centers
to try and actually manually reset the servers,
literally like the blowing on the N64 cartridge of fixing the problem here.
Beautiful analogy.
Thank you.
It is dated, but it'll hit.
And The Washington Post has a more helpful graphic on
the technical side of understanding all the possible reasons that we can link to in our
show notes. But as of this particular time, experts don't seem to think that this was an
external hack, but rather an issue with the company's server computers. And it really was
so severe that later in the evening, Zuckerberg
himself apologized for the outage. Yeah, it was pretty dramatic, right? And not great timing.
This also happened right after a 60-minute segment from Sunday, where the source behind that series
of Wall Street Journal articles was actually revealed. So what were some of the takeaways
there? Yeah, so first off, for those who haven't seen it yet, the whistleblower previously known as Sean
revealed herself to be Frances Haugen.
And she is a product manager
who had previously worked
on the civic misinformation team at Facebook
before leaving earlier this year.
Facebook has demonstrated
they cannot act independently.
Facebook over and over again has shown
it chooses profit over safety.
It is subsidizing, it is paying for its profits with our safety.
I'm hoping that this will have had a big enough impact on the world that they get the fortitude
and the motivation to actually go put those regulations into place.
Yeah, so as she alluded to there, one of the takeaways actually from Haugen seemed to be
that she leaked these documents in order to prompt change at the company not to destroy it. Apparently, prior to leaving, one of the last things she wrote to her
colleagues was, quote, I love Facebook. I want to save it, end quote. We can link to that story
from The Wall Street Journal as well. And today, Haugen is set to testify to Congress specifically
on Facebook's negative effects on young users. She has also sought federal whistleblower protection.
So this feels like
potentially the beginning of this whole saga. Oh, definitely. There's surely more to come there.
And yesterday, if you can believe it, amidst all of this, Facebook also filed a motion to dismiss
the latest Federal Trade Commission's antitrust lawsuit, which is just like unbelievable.
It is like almost impressively galling in a way to have this
land on this day of all days. So we've talked about this suit before. But as a quick reminder,
earlier this year, a federal judge basically said that the FTC in its first lawsuit hadn't
established hadn't gathered all the evidence to prove that Facebook was an illegal monopoly.
And so the FTC refiled in August,
and the expectation was that Facebook would try to get this dismissed.
But man, did it land on a crazy day for that to happen.
The judge reportedly has until November
to respond to the motion to dismiss.
So that is some of the whirlwind of the day
and weeks in Facebook fiascos.
We'll get back to all of it quite soon.
But Josie, also the latest Supreme Court term began yesterday.
And there's a lot to keep our eyes on there to say the very least.
Walk us through it.
Yeah, so it's that time again.
Supreme Court season is upon us.
This is like my World Series, my Super Bowl.
So this time last year, Justice Ginsburg had just
passed away. She died in the middle of September. And Amy Coney Barrett was well on her way to
taking her seat on the court. Yes, that was quite an insane time. And going back further,
just a few years ago, the court kind of felt solidly liberal as far as courts go. But now
we're looking at a 6-3 conservative
majority with a very stubborn 83-year-old Stephen Breyer refusing to budge. So that's quite an
ominous way to begin this particular season. Yeah, it's hard to know what to expect these
next few months and really these next few years, but I can pretty much guess it will be worse than
what we've seen recently. And as WAD's resident lawyer-esque,
meaning I went to law school, I passed the bar, but then I decided to never actually practice law.
I just decided to get in a lot of debt for no reason. I'm here to tell you what to look out for
in the upcoming term. Trust me, you are light years more of an expert than I could ever dream
to be. And I'm also in debt without any of
the expertise. Okay, so the first issue that people should be paying attention to here pertains to
firearms. Yes. So early next month, the court is going to hear New York State Rifle Pistol
Association Incorporated versus Bruin. Real incredible name there. It's arguably the most
important Second Amendment case since at least 2008.
And the case is going to rule on the constitutionality of a New York state law
that prohibits carrying a handgun outside the home without a license. But it's not actually
just the license requirement that's at issue. It's the fact that in New York, it's really hard
to get a license because everyone that wants a permit has to demonstrate that they have, quote, proper cause to carry a gun.
And in New York, a general interest in self-protection is not sufficient proper cause.
You can't just have it for self-defense.
You can't just have it because maybe one day you'll need it.
So the court will examine whether the denial of a license for self-defense violates the Second Amendment.
And it's a pretty big deal in terms of Second Amendment jurisprudence. Yeah. And then there is also this case pertaining to reproductive rights
that is coming up on December 1st. A lot of people have definitely been paying attention to this,
I think, for good reason. Can you tell us a little bit more about what the details are of that?
Yeah. So we have talked on here about the decision slash kind of non-decision that the
court made last month in the Texas case.
This case is Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, and it's sure to be one of,
if not the very most impactful case this year.
In fact, it's very possible this is the most important reproductive health ruling that
many of us have seen in decades. The case is about a law passed in Mississippi back in 2018
called the Gestational Age Act, and it prohibits all abortions with very few exceptions after 15
weeks gestational age. For perspective, that's about five to 10 weeks before the ban in Roe v. Wade. Jackson Women's Health Organization is
tragically, but perhaps not surprisingly, the only licensed abortion facility in Mississippi,
and it challenged the law since it does explicitly violate Roe v. Wade.
Meanwhile, Mississippi has specifically requested that the court take this opportunity to overturn
Roe v. Wade, as well as 1992's Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the court will consider whether all
pre-viability prohibitions on elective abortions are unconstitutional.
Yeah, it's insane. It's really, really insane.
It really is.
Another one that's coming up is U.S. v. Tsarnaev. That is a case about one of the
brothers that committed the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings. So Tsarnaev was already sentenced to death for his participation. But
where does the Supreme Court actually come into the picture here, Josie?
Yeah, so he had been sentenced to death and then his sentence was overturned. So he is currently
serving life without parole instead. The Supreme Court's going to examine that sentence.
An appeals court vacated his decedence after it found that the lower court should have asked
potential jurors more explicitly what coverage they'd seen about the case to make sure that
they weren't biased against the defendant. So this is a really interesting one because in the age of
social media and super accessible news everywhere we turn, how can we expect jurors to stay completely
impartial in major cases like this one?
And is an impartial jury really possible the way it used to be?
So this is a fascinating case with obviously, you know, huge implications.
And though they're not actually discussing whether or not the death penalty is constitutional or not,
we can just theoretically hope that maybe the Supreme Court
will decide to just abolish the death penalty while they're at it. I wouldn't hold my breath,
but I guess anything's possible. That would be an upside to many,
many downsides that we have talked about for sure. And there are plenty more cases to follow. So
where should people go to get an actual rundown of everything that the Supreme Court is going to take on the session? Yes. So if you're looking for progressive,
easy to understand, and often really hilarious coverage of the Supreme Court and what exactly
it's up to, you should check out ballsandstrikes.org. It's a new website that's doing a really great job
of making the court accessible. I'll have an article up on the site today about an important
case the court heard yesterday, an oral argument, about what qualifies someone as a career criminal,
and we'll have a link in our show notes. So yeah, check it out. And that's the latest for now.
We'll be back after some ads.
Let's wrap up with some headlines.
Headlines. to approve a strike if the union can't get major studios to agree to desperately needed concessions.
IATSE wants higher pay, better working conditions, and better benefits for its members.
Almost 90% of eligible IATSE workers participated,
with more than 98% voicing their willingness to support a strike.
So here's another way to look at those numbers from camera technician Elena McManus of Local 600.
Out of over 53,000 people, only about 700 voted no.
Wow. The landslide result will give leverage to IOTC as it tries to negotiate a three-year
contract with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, or AMPTP. For the first time
in months, AMPTP has agreed to return to the bargaining table today. Here's Locals 871
Allison Golub, a writer's assistant who we spoke with last week on what lies ahead and the
significance of the vote. In the next two weeks, there will either be a deal or a strike and we'll
see how it goes. But it's very exciting and it's a great show of solidarity and support throughout.
You know, if you're not an entertainment industry worker, this still can affect you
greatly because it shows that worker solidarity is something that is possible in America.
Indeed. Solidarity to all of them. President Biden's legislative agenda is still on hold
while Democrats continue to negotiate their massive bill to fund social programs and a
trillion dollar bipartisan infrastructure bill to refurbish roads, bridges,
and build better broadband. The House was expected to vote on the infrastructure bill last week,
but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could not secure enough votes in her party for it to pass.
Progressive Democrats held firm in saying that they just would not vote for the bill if it did
not go in tandem with the Democratic-led social spending package. That Build Back Better bill includes health care,
child care, and climate programs,
some things we should consider investing in.
But it won't pass without the support of Joe Manchin
and Kyrsten Sinema, the two Democratic senators
whose bodies have evolved to feed exclusively on liberal rage.
This is what Biden had to say about the situation yesterday
when he spoke at the White House.
I've been able to close a deal on 99%
of my party. Two, two people that's still on their way. You can tell he is thrilled like the rest of
us. There is no hard deadline for passing the bills. But Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer
said he aims to pass them both by the end of October, the spookiest treat of them all.
Meanwhile, the U.S. is still on the brink of hitting its borrowing limit. Me too.
Because Senate Republicans have yet to agree on raising the dreaded debt ceiling. Without action,
the government is likely to run out of cash by October 18th, and Republicans have said they
will block any vote to raise the limit. Yesterday, President Biden said he could not guarantee the debt ceiling would be raised in the next two weeks, and he slammed Republicans
for their hypocritical opposition. The reason we have to raise the debt limit is in part
because of the reckless tax and spending policies under the previous Trump administration.
In four years, they incurred nearly $8 trillion. In four years, $8 trillion in additional debt.
In bills, we have to now pay off.
Republicans argue Democrats should handle the debt ceiling through reconciliation without their support.
But Dems believe that Republicans should share the responsibility in handling the government's debt.
Imagine that.
Schumer said he wants action on the debt ceiling this week
and has set a vote for Wednesday.
But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell
does not plan on making things easy for the Democrats.
Something so strange.
He's usually so good at that.
And he could block the effort through a procedural motion.
I hope people listening are enjoying these same updates
over the last three or four months.
Bad news for all of us who assume that it was safe to lie about 91 year olds on the
Internet.
Clint Eastwood has won a six point one million dollar lawsuit against a deceitful CBD company.
So last year, Eastwood filed two federal suits against a number of CBD companies that
have used his name and likeness in fake online news stories
to make it seem like he had endorsed their products. After a Lithuanian company failed
to respond to a summons, the judge awarded millions to Eastwood in a default judgment.
That is the most success Clint has had with an empty chair since he talked to one on live TV
and earned the love and respect of an entire nation. Zoomers will not remember. Eastwood said
in a statement, quote, I am pleased
with the court's ruling and believe this judgment sends a powerful message to other online scammers
who might try to illegally use someone's name and reputation to sell their products. Let that be a
warning to anyone who tries to ruin Clint Eastwood's reputation as the least chill man in
Hollywood. He will not be chill about it. If you have not seen Clint Eastwood
talk to a chair on stage at the RNC in 2012, please, please go to YouTube right now and look
it up. It is surreal and amazing. I second that. And if you have not watched Clint Eastwood's The
Mule, it is also surreal and amazing. I don't know about that advice, but I can tell you my advice is good.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I agree with that.
And those are the headlines.
That is all for today.
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