What A Day - Hostages Released In The Israel-Hamas War
Episode Date: November 27, 2023Seventeen more hostages held by Hamas were released on Sunday under a temporary, four-day ceasefire agreement reached last week between Israel and Hamas. In total, 58 hostages were released over the f...irst three days of the deal, and in return, Israel agreed to release 150 Palestinian women and children from prison. Israel and Hamas have also both expressed openness to extending the pause beyond four days. Meanwhile, people on every side of the war took to the streets across the world over the weekend.And in headlines: George Floyd’s murderer Derek Chauvin is stable after being stabbed in prison, Sean “Diddy” Combs faces his third accusation of sexual assault in a month, and SAG-AFTRA published the full, tentative labor agreement reached with studios.Show Notes:What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastCrooked Coffee is officially here. Our first blend, What A Morning, is available in medium and dark roasts. Wake up with your own bag at crooked.com/coffeeFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It's Monday, November 27th. I'm Trevelle Anderson.
And I'm Priyanka Arabindi, and this is What A Day, where Thanksgiving might be over, but
we are feasting with concert films this year.
Beyonce's Renaissance documentary just premiered, though somehow my invite must have got lost.
It has to be the Postal Service's fault.
Or Jay-Z. I don't think he ever liked me.
You can blame it on him. That's fine.
On today's show, George Floyd's murderer, Derek Chauvin, is stable after being stabbed in prison.
Plus, the Union for Hollywood Actors SAG-AFTRA releases the full text of its deal with studios
to convince more members to vote for it.
But first, the latest out of Israel and Gaza.
Under a temporary four-day-long ceasefire agreement reached last week between Israel and Hamas,
17 more hostages held by Hamas were released on Sunday,
while at least 120 aid trucks entered Gaza via Egypt.
This makes for a total of 58 hostages released by Hamas over the
first three days of the ceasefire, which has been the longest break in the violence since Hamas's
attack on Israel on October 7th. Take a listen to Adva Adar, the granddaughter of an 85-year-old
woman who was released on Friday. She was talking to CNN about what it was like to have her
grandmother back. Wow. Really, it's overwhelming, but we're very excited
and we're very grateful that we got the chance to see her.
It's mixed feelings because we're also very concerned
and worried about the other 211 people
that are still being held hostage,
including my cousin Tamir.
I definitely understand the mixed feelings, mixed emotions that they spoke to there. Can you tell
us more about the hostages who were released over the past few days?
Definitely. Hamas released Israeli women and children and citizens of the U.S., Thailand,
Poland, the Philippines, and Russia. Most arrived in Israel, but others left through Egypt. And
according to Israel, one elderly woman was actually airlifted directly to a hospital,
not because she was harmed in any way. She just, you know, was an elderly woman who wasn't receiving
the same type of care that she normally was. So, you know, in the absence of that over the
six-week period, needed to go to the hospital to be seen. So there were nine children under the age of 17
who are being held hostage and have since been released. The youngest hostage so far was released
yesterday, four-year-old Abigail Idan. She is a dual U.S. Israeli citizen, actually the first
American to be released under the terms of the ceasefire. Her parents were killed in the October 7th attack. So really just
awful story. But according to President Biden, she is now safe in Israel.
Gotcha. So we've got some release of hostages. What do the people of Gaza
get in return for that release of hostages?
So in return for Hamas releasing at least 50 of the remaining hostages they held,
all women and children, Israel agreed
to four days of a ceasefire, as well as the release of 150 Palestinian women and children
from Israeli prisons, some of whom were detained for violent crimes and some of whom were actually
detained but never formally charged with any crimes. So far, 117 Palestinians have been released from Israeli prisons.
On Sunday, a bus carrying 39 of them, all teenagers, arrived in the West Bank city of Ramallah.
Gotcha. Can you tell us more about how this deal even came together in the first place behind the
scenes? Yeah, I mean, this ceasefire deal came together after weeks of negotiation that started actually very shortly after the October 7th attack itself.
U.S. officials played a huge role in pushing Hamas and working with Israel.
Qatar and Egypt acted as intermediaries in these discussions.
And President Biden, along with other senior U.S. officials, spent a lot of time communicating with the families of these hostages and assuring them that they were doing everything they could to bring their family members back home safely.
That is actually a contrast that has been drawn, you know, by these family members of hostages
about, you know, the support and the communication they were receiving from
President Biden and the U.S. government versus the Israeli government, which I thought had been
very interesting. This deal was not without its
hiccups, though. Hamas officials threatened to walk away from talks after the Israeli military
entered al-Shifa hospital in Gaza earlier this month. But talks resumed on November 17th,
with Israel signing off on the agreement by Wednesday, the 22nd. And of course,
the ceasefire was in motion by Friday. There were fears over the weekend that
the agreement might fall apart after Hamas claimed that Israel went back on parts of it and threatened
to postpone the release of a second wave of hostages in response to that. But after an hours
long delay, they eventually went ahead with the release. And now it continues, which is really just
great news for these hostages and their families that have been waiting for, you know, weeks and weeks now to know that they're safe and to have them home.
Absolutely. Thanks for that update on the hostages themselves, Priyanka.
And now after that, right, much of the discussion has turned to what will happen on day five after this negotiated pause ends and the agreed upon number of hostages are freed.
President Biden has said that, quote, the chances are real that this pause could lead to a longer
term ceasefire. But most immediately, it looks like the current pause, which would end today,
could be extended in the meantime. Part of the deal negotiated between Hamas and Israel is that for every 10 hostages
that Hamas releases beyond that initial 50, Israel will pause violence by another day.
According to Qatar's prime minister, who helped broker this agreement, like you mentioned,
more than 40 other women and children are allegedly being held captive in Gaza,
but not by Hamas. And so if Hamas can finagle those hostages
for release, he says that there would likely be an extension. Just looking at the numbers, though,
if such an extension did happen, the total pause would be about 10 days total.
Got it. Okay, so I know there have been some new developments over the last day. What is the sense now that either Israel or Hamas
want an extension? Yeah, so both Israel and Hamas have expressed kind of an openness to a temporary
extension of the pause in line with those already negotiated parameters that I just mentioned.
But diplomacy analysts note that both parties don't really have strong reasons to consider much of an extension
in the first place. For example, if Hamas releases all of the hostages, they won't really have
whatever leverage that they might have had over Israel. Not to mention, they have to also appease
in some ways the other rival military groups that operate in Gaza, like the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
So, you know, too many concessions with Israel and Hamas's allies might not be happy or cooperative.
And then on Israel's side, even though their response to Hamas's attack on October 7 has killed more than 13,000 Palestinians,
that's according to health officials in Gaza,
they haven't actually made too much headway in specifically wiping out Hamas yet.
According to estimates cited by the New York Times,
only a little over 2,000 Hamas fighters have been killed in the war thus far.
That is out of some 40,000 people, so only about 5%,
meaning that any sort of longer-term extension of this ceasefire
would mean that Netanyahu wouldn't be able to make good on his vows. And that could harm him
politically as the calls for his resignation or replacement seem to be growing by both elected
officials, a part of his conservative regime, and those who are not. Right. And those figures that you are pointing out, I mean, even just the estimate that only
a little over 2,000 Hamas fighters have been killed thus far, that's 15%, you know, of the
total 13,000 Palestinians that have died over the past six weeks as a result of Israel's
bombing campaign in Gaza. I think it underscores the ineffectiveness of this
particular tactic of indiscriminate airstrikes in terms of rooting out terrorism, which remains to
be seen if anything will change. I don't think so. But anyways, any extension in the pause would
certainly be a positive thing. So many people really hopeful about the release of the hostages,
families who are hopeful that they will see their loved ones. And, you know, just a pause in this violence that has cost
so many lives for so many people. So let's say that, you know, this happens. It does happen.
It's a full 10 day long hold on the fighting. What happens after all of those hostages are
returned? Do we know? Well, so that answer is a little uncertain, but Netanyahu has basically
made Israel's priorities fairly clear. He actually said on Sunday, quote, we have three goals in this
war, eliminate Hamas, return all of our hostages, and ensure that Gaza will not go back to being a
threat to the state of Israel. He added, quote,
we are convinced that we have the force,
the strength, the will, and the determination
to achieve all of our goals for the war.
Got it.
All right, so throughout all of those updates,
you know, protests on every side of this issue
have continued.
What was this weekend like in that regard?
Yeah, so I'll do a quick little roundup here.
First, in London, there a quick little round up here. First in London,
there were two demonstrations over the weekend. Here is a clip recorded by Forbes.
Thank you for keeping up the pressure. Thank you for coming out to show Israel a new government
that you will not relent. Seize partner. Se now! Cease fire now! Free, free! Free, free!
Free, free! That is sound from a pro-Palestinian march that took place Saturday. An estimated 45,000
protesters marched through the city calling for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza.
It was a largely peaceful gathering. Only 18 arrests were made, according to officials.
And then on Sunday, a second march happened, this one against anti-Semitism.
Take a listen to this protester interviewed by The Guardian.
We, the Jewish community, are worried about the current situation here in the United
Kingdom, the rising wave of anti-Semitism, and we worry about the future. So together with all of
the people here today, we are protesting against the rise of anti-Semitism, and we're hoping that
the British government will support the Jewish community in their efforts to suppress the
anti-Semitism that's rising and taking over
the society. Varying estimates for the demonstration put attendees between 60,000 and 100,000. And it
happened as crimes against Jewish people have increased dramatically since the October attack.
According to the BBC, there were 554 reports of anti-Semitism in London between the 1st of October and the 1st of November this year.
So over just that one month time period.
That's compared with just 44 instances in the same period last year.
Also, at the same time, Islamophobic hate crimes have also been on the rise in London with 220 instances in that same one month period compared to just 78 last year.
Right. Of course, as we've dealt with all of the violence, the death, the tragedy in the Middle East,
we deal with all of the hate and the ensuing violence and tragedy that comes from it just all around the world.
It's been awful. But I know we are no stranger to protests right here at home,
what has been happening in America. Yeah, so protests continued throughout the holiday break
with the famed Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade being a bit livelier than usual, perhaps. That's
because some pro-Palestinian demonstrators calling for a permanent ceasefire. They dressed themselves
in white jumpsuits with fake blood splashed on themselves, and they tried to glue their hands to the pavement of the parade route. One protester,
as they were being detained by police, proclaimed, quote, we have nothing to celebrate. In total,
34 people were detained by police at the parade. Four of them faced charges including harassment,
obstruction of governmental administration, and resisting arrest.
The other 30 were cited for trespassing and disorderly conduct.
This, though, was just one of a number of demonstrations that happened over the holiday break, which also included protests aimed at disrupting Black Friday shopping.
And I'm sure we will continue to see demonstrations in the days
and weeks ahead. But that is the latest for now. We'll be back after some ads.
Now let's wrap up with some headlines.
Headlines.
Derek Chauvin, the ex-Minneapolis police officer who murdered George Floyd in 2020,
is reportedly in stable condition after a fellow inmate stabbed him in federal prison on Friday.
The incident was first reported by the Associated Press that day
when the Bureau of Federal Prisons said that an incarcerated individual
was assaulted at the Federal Corrections Institute in Tucson, Arizona.
Chauvin has been serving out two concurrent prison sentences there since 2022,
and a source familiar with the matter identified Chauvin
as the individual who was attacked to the press.
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison confirmed the stabbing on Saturday
and said that Chauvin's condition had stabilized.
Officials say that no employees were injured in Friday's attack
and that the FBI is aware of the incident.
In the meantime, all visitation to the prison has been suspended,
quote, until further notice.
Three Palestinian college students were shot in Burlington, Vermont on Saturday.
The 20-year-old men were walking near the University of Vermont while visiting a relative.
Burlington police said that a white man approached them with a handgun and, without saying anything, fired four times and then fled.
Two of the victims are in stable condition and the third sustained more serious injuries.
Two of the three victims were wearing
kafayas, which are traditional Palestinian scarves. All three men graduated from a high
school in the occupied West Bank and are now currently attending various U.S. universities.
The attacker hasn't yet been identified or caught by authorities, and the police department said
they are still in the earliest stages of investigating this possible hate crime. The Council on American Islamic Relations announced that they are offering
a $10,000 reward for any information on the shooting targeting the three students.
But this is tragically part of a broader pattern. The organization said they have seen an
unprecedented surge in anti-Muslim and anti-Arab hate since the beginning
of the crisis in Gaza last month. It's troubling for so many reasons. It really needs to stop.
Switching gears now to yet another update in Silicon Valley drama, Sam Altman has officially
been reinstated as the CEO of OpenAI, the company that created ChatGPT. The artificial intelligence
company announced the move last Tuesday,
just days after its board of directors pushed Altman out of the company.
Greg Brockman, the company's president,
who quit in solidarity with Altman, also returned to the company.
And OpenAI also announced a new, quote,
initial board of directors that is made up of three members.
It is worth noting that the only two women on the board
are now gone.
You'll remember the whirlwind of events
that led up to Altman's return,
starting with his ouster from OpenAI
on Friday, November 17th.
That was followed by Microsoft,
which is OpenAI's biggest investor,
hiring Altman and Brockman at their company.
Then after all of that,
nearly all of OpenAI's close to 800 staff members
signed on to an open letter, basically threatening to join Microsoft if Altman and Brockman were not
reinstated at OpenAI. In a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, Altman wrote on Tuesday,
quote, I am looking forward to returning to OpenAI and building our strong partnership with
Microsoft. My head is spinning. That is a lot. The man has had to
update his LinkedIn twice in one week. That is more than I have done in the last seven years.
So it's just a lot. It is a lot. So much drama, so much back and forth, so much foolishness.
Hi, yi yi. Sean Diddy Combs is facing his third accusation of sexual assault in a month, according to a lawsuit filed in New York last Thursday.
A woman identified as Jane Doe alleged that Combs and the R&B singer Aaron Hall assaulted her and her friend at Hall's apartment.
In a different lawsuit, Joy Dickerson Neal accused Combs of assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, sex trafficking,
gender-motivated violence, and making and disseminating revenge porn. Both of these
cases pertain to alleged incidents that happened in the early 1990s, and these women filed suits
just one day before a provision of New York's Survivors Act expired last Friday, a temporary
provision that allowed victims to file claims older than
20 years old. All of this comes just a week after singer and actress Cassie filed a $30 million
lawsuit alleging that Combs raped, sex trafficked, and abused her starting when she was 19 years old.
This case was settled one day later, but the amount of money wasn't made public. Actor Jamie
Foxx, New York Mayor Eric Adams, and singer Axl Rose
were among others accused of sexual assault before the Adult Survivors Act deadline.
In labor news you may have missed this week,
SAG-AFTRA, the union representing more than 160,000 Hollywood actors,
published the full tentative labor agreement reached with the studio executives earlier this month.
The 129-page draft was posted
online on Friday as union members weigh whether or not to ratify the deal. In the past, actors
have traditionally relied on the union's detailed summaries of new contracts to decide, but after
several members pressured the union's leadership for more details of the new deal, SAG-AFTRA
President Fran Drescher promised that the full text would be made public. Many union members have praised the new agreement, which is valued at $1 billion
in new wages and benefits, but some still aren't satisfied with the provisions around generative AI.
Matthew Modine, one of the members of SAG-AFTRA's own national board, said last week that he voted
against the New Deal because he believes that it doesn't provide actors enough protection from digital exploitation.
SAG-AFTRA members have until December 5th to vote.
I know we will be watching that very closely on this program.
Absolutely.
And finally, Beyonce's highly anticipated Renaissance film made its world premiere Saturday night at the Samuel Goldwyn Theatre in Beverly Hills.
And it was, of course, a star-studded event.
Among those who graced the chrome carpet, a red carpet sans the red,
were Beyonce's parents, most of the former Destiny's Child members,
as well as Lupita Nyong'o, Lizzo, Janelle Monae, Issa Rae, Laverne Cox, and many, many others.
And if you're wondering where Taylor Swift was,
since Beyonce made an appearance at her L. her LA premiere of the Arras tour film,
Swift was performing in South America.
The night's dress code was reportedly, quote,
cozy opulence, and opulence was definitely served.
Beyonce herself wore a silver Versace gown with metallic opera gloves.
She also skipped the carpet altogether and entered the theater just as the lights went
down, as a diva does.
The film reportedly features footage from several performances of Queen Bee's recent
blockbuster tour and includes appearances from special guests like Megan Thee Stallion,
who joined Beyonce on stage in a Houston show, as well as the iconic Diana Ross singing
Happy Birthday to Beyonce in LA. That's the show I attended. joined Beyonce on stage in a Houston show, as well as the iconic Diana Ross singing happy birthday
to Beyonce in LA. That's the show I attended. The movie also features Beyonce's 11-year-old
daughter, Blue Ivy Carter, who joined her mom on stage as a dancer for My Power, which was
apparently only supposed to be a one-time thing. And she saw some of you all's horrible comments
about her dancing, and she decided that she was going to work a little harder and show all of y'all up.
So maybe y'all should stop talking about children when they show up in public.
Or I mean, keep talking about them because maybe they'll have a revenge arc like Blue
Ivy and like turn out to be one of the best dancers you've ever seen by the end of the
war.
I don't know.
Just one or the other.
The right answer is either one of the two. Valid point. I don't know. Just one or the other. The right answer is either one of the two.
Valid point.
Anyway, Renaissance, a film by Beyonce, is in theaters this Friday.
Get your tickets while you can.
But if you haven't already, you might already be a little too late if we're being honest.
Yeah, babes.
What if you miss the tickets?
You're not getting it on Friday.
You're getting it at some point.
It's just not opening weekend.
But maybe you can live with that. But you want to be there opening weekend. Okay?
I think we all should wear
our cozy opulence
which to me sounds just
like sweatpants. I know.
Same. I was like a Versace gown
cozy opulence. That is giving
my finest sweatsuit. but it's fine.
It's fine.
And those are the headlines.
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