What A Day - Jon Favreau Ranks Michigan Primary Hot Takes

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

It was a big night for Michigan Democrats, as progressive candidate Abdul El-Sayed beat US Representative Haley Stevens in the race for a seat in the Senate this fall. But what did we actually learn ...from El-Sayed’s victory? Was this a win for progressives? A shot at the establishment? Is he too liberal to win in November? And what does this say about the midterms? Everyone has an opinion… but not all of them are good. To hear more about which takes we should be listening to, we spoke to Jon Favreau. He’s the co-host of Pod Save America.And in headlines, President Trump tells reporters a deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz could come this week, the US is seeing more possible cyber attacks targeting water systems, and the Trump Administration is giving tariff refunds! But Americans are unlikely to see any of the money.Show Notes: Check out Pod Save America – youtube.com/@podsaveamerica Call Congress – 202-224-3121 Subscribe to the What A Day Newsletter – https://tinyurl.com/y4y2e9jy What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcast Follow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/ For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You have a very progressive Muslim candidate named Abdul al-Said who was outspent 11 to 1 and took on the entire Democratic establishment in D.C. and in Michigan and won. So that is something in a state like Michigan, right? Which is we're not talking about New York City. We're not talking about a deep blue district. So that is no worthy. I'm Jane Koston, and this is what a day. The show that is so comforted to know that while the war in Iran continues to spiral, an American deal with an ever-increasing cost of living, the vice president of the United States, J.D. Vance,
Starting point is 00:00:44 is laser-focused on calling a Washington Post columnist fat on Twitter. On today's show, we talked to PODSave America's John Favreau about the good, the bad, and the ugly takes on Tuesday's primary elections. Before we get into Michigan's midterm Michigas, here's what we're following today, Wednesday, August 5th. A lot of progress has been made. And they called me and they said, please, let me. talk. They want to talk. The funny thing is they never mentioned that. They always say,
Starting point is 00:01:13 we're not talking. But they called. They want to talk. We've been talking. They want to make a deal. They do not want to be here. Likewise, President Donald Trump told reporters at Los Angeles International Airport Tuesday night that a deal to reopen the Strait of Formos could come this week. I'll believe it when I see it. And even then, I might not believe it. The United States and Israel launched the war against Iran earlier this year, citing various goals I still do not understand. But recently, the conflict has devolved into a fight over the strait that was open before the war began. And now Iran wants control over it. And of course, the Trump administration isn't a fan of that. An agreement giving Iran authority over the strait would be seen as a major loss for the U.S.
Starting point is 00:01:53 and a break with global norms. Alas, closure of the strait has driven up the cost of fuel and basic goods far beyond the region, roiling the global economy. So, something's got to give. As Trump's war against Iran rages on, the U.S. is seeing more possible cyber attacks targeting water systems. According to sources who spoke to ABC News, hackers found a weakness in software commonly used by utility companies in at least 12 U.S. states. ABC News, Aaron Kuterski, told Good Morning America Tuesday that some utilities had been forced to switch to manual operations. But so far, there's no evidence of widespread disruption to water supplies. The fear, though, is this is Iran showing. how it could retaliate if President Trump further escalates the war. Iran remains the prime suspect
Starting point is 00:02:40 behind these cyber attacks. Those sources say it's still not confirmed. Officials are assessing whether this could be the work of a different state actor, maybe mimicking Iran to try and influence what the U.S. does next. Of course, Donald Trump blamed the attacks in Minnesota on the state of Minnesota, because I'd argue Donald Trump hates the state of Minnesota more than the country were purportedly at war with. Great news for American companies. The Trump administration is giving refunds. It has returned at least $166 billion to importers
Starting point is 00:03:10 after the Supreme Court struck down many of its tariffs earlier this year. Less great news for Americans. You are not seeing any of that money. According to CNN, companies like Amazon and Apple got refunds because the tariff refund system only pays back the companies that paid the tariffs in the first place. So Apple got a $2.2 billion refund, and Amazon got a $600 million refund.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But the average American family is not likely to get anything back from those companies, even though they paid nearly $2,000 in tariff costs between February 2025 and January 2026. Why? Because despite promises from some companies to pass on those bonuses to consumers in the form of lower prices, the war in Iran and increased energy costs are likely eating up a lot of that money. In short, Trump is why your consumer goods are more expensive, and Trump is why they won't get any cheaper anytime soon. Will you tell him to drop out? No, I will tell Max what I tell everyone.
Starting point is 00:04:06 These are serious allegations. I'm the father of two daughters who work in Capitol Hill. I mean, the allegations are serious. I think Max is taking them seriously. I think our colleagues are. But again, we have to allow this process to play out. It's just begun. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:20 House Speaker Mike Johnson spoke to Politico about embattled Ohio Republican Representative Max Miller and his domestic abuse allegations. Johnson told Pletka, that members of Congress are not merely disciplined for allegations, and emphasized, quote, there is all sorts of domestic events going on with 435 members of Congress all the time. It's not my business to get engaged in it. It is, actually, your business.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And the House GOP creepfest continues. North Carolina Republican Representative Chuck Edwards announced that he will not seek re-election. It comes after the House Ethics Committee recommended that he be censured for gestures like, Gifting a staffer 30 different types of ice cream, offering to skip votes to help a staffer decorate her Christmas tree, and gifting a staffer a puzzle, which, when completed, showed an invitation to an Adam Sandler show. Happy he won't be returning.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And that's the news. Let's talk about last night's primaries. It was a big night for Michigan Democrats, as progressive candidate Abdul Al-Sayed beat U.S. Representative Haley Stevens in the race for a seat in the Senate this fall. his campaign centered on support for Medicare for all and opposition to funding Israel's conflicts, and now he'll face Republican Mike Rogers in November. It was the most expensive Senate Democratic primary in history and proved to be a much tighter win than the polling predicted.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Recent polls had El-Said winning the race by nearly 20 points. Now, with the help of establishment Democrats, both in Michigan and nationally, he's focused on gathering support from voters who supported Stevens. But what did we actually learn from Michigan's primary? Was this a win for progressives? A shot at the establishment? Is Al-Said too liberal to win in November? And what does it say about the midterms? Everyone has an opinion, but not all of them are good.
Starting point is 00:06:07 To hear more about which takes we should be listening to, I spoke to John Favro. He's the co-host of Pod Save America. John, welcome back to Water Day. Thanks for having me. Good to be here. Yesterday, five states went to the polls, and this morning we got results in one of the biggest primary races around the country. Progressive Abdul Al-Sayed won a tight race from the first. Michigan's open Senate seat for the primary, defeating Representative Haley Stevens.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Now, on a day like this, there are a lot of takes. This is a big race. People have a lot of thoughts. They are sharing them. And I want you to rate some of them. Cool. Good take or bad take. Can I do like a medium take?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah, you can do like lukewarm take. Luke warm take. Kind of like a, you know, like, it's a mid take. Okay, I like that. Okay. Starting off, El Ceyid's victory is a sign of a larger progressive wave taking over the Democratic Party. lukewarm take okay why lukewarm um i think you can look at a lot of the results last night and you see certainly progressive challengers winning against more moderate democrats uh we saw this also
Starting point is 00:07:10 in the michigan seventh um we sought in the michigan thirteenth i believe um and but then you know more more moderate candidates fended off progressive challengers uh in places like virginia and in Missouri and Washington State. So I think it's mixed, but I certainly think that the reason I say Luke Warm is, I mean, you have a very progressive Muslim candidate named Abdul Al-Said who was outspent 11 to 1 and took on the entire Democratic establishment in D.C. and in Michigan and won. So that is something in a state like Michigan, right, which is we're not talking about New York City. We're not talking about a deep blue district. So that is noeworthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And to that point, based on what we know, as of right now, Abdul did quite well in rural Michigan. I'm going to have to throw up the mitten, which is how you do maps. This area, he did well. I'm interested in the splits there. I just said this to Dan on Ponce of America because it's like there's some, like, she did really well in a lot of rural Michigan. And then there were pockets of rural Michigan where he did really well. I wonder, do you know the difference of like what? Yeah, he did really well, like in the Upper Peninsula.
Starting point is 00:08:26 which I'm like, that's surprising and great. Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor, who talks a lot on the internet, he said on Twitter, quote, Abdul El-Said was outspent 9 to 1 by A-PAC and corporate super PACs in the most expensive Senate, Democratic primary of all time. Last night he proved that organized people can beat organized money. Good take, bad take. What kind of take? I think that's a good take. I think that's a good take because certainly they beat organized money. I mean, $65 million in outside space.
Starting point is 00:08:56 spending. Apak spent, I think, $32.5 million. That is the largest spend of any outside group in any Democratic primary this cycle, the single largest one. That is so, so much money. And the fact that he was able to overcome that is, it's a pretty big deal. For more on how Republicans are attempting to spin this race, hint, Islamophobia. Stick around. We'll get back to my conversation with John Favro in a moment. In the meantime, make sure to subscribe. Leave a five-star review on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, watch us on YouTube, and share with your friends. More to come after some ads. What a Day is brought to you by Willie's Remedy. Finally, an alcohol alternative that actually works, with an uplifting euphoric buzz you can
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Starting point is 00:11:53 Abdul El-Said who proudly campaigns with extremists who say America deserve 9-11. The Islamic Marxists truly are taking over the Democratic Party. We must never give them power. Quick clarification. He is referencing Hassan Piker because, of course, he is. Good take, bad take. I'm going to say bad take on that one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Tom Cotton with a bad take? What? Not an Islamist Marxist. No? No, that's not. No. I don't think he would identify as such. No, but I mean, we knew what the game was going to.
Starting point is 00:12:23 going to be, but this is how they are going to do this campaign. It's the entire thing that's just going to be saying the long version of Abdul's name, which he's already made the note of, like, if you say it, say it correctly. And being like, you know, he's some foreign influence, despite being from Michigan. And like that, that's going to be the entire campaign. That will be it. And I think whether it works or not is dependent on this. Abdul, when you meet him, When you see him on television, he is charismatic and engaging. And so I think for a lot of people in Michigan, seeing him up close will puncture the caricature of him as the Islamist-Marxist extremist. The question is for marginal voters, for low-information voters who don't get to see Abdul up close and just see ads like the NRC ran today, which is basically like Tommy Cotton's tweet in ad for.
Starting point is 00:13:20 form. For people who just see that in the background, well, they're washing dishes, like, will that seep in for people who don't know Abdul or get to know Abdul? And so what he needs to do now is make sure he can meet and get his message in front of as many Michiganders as possible. Yeah. I was just talking to Tim Miller about this that he's going to do, and I would guess that he's going to do what Zraham Dani did, which is be omnipresent. Yes. Like, there will not be, if you are at a football tailgate, this. this fall, he will be there. You won't even know where he's coming from.
Starting point is 00:13:53 You're at like a Grand Valley State game. Abdul's there. You're at like Michigan Tech. He's there. You are anywhere in the state of Michigan and somehow Abdul will be there. You shared this, but I'll ask anyway. CNN's chief political analyst David Axelrod tweeted,
Starting point is 00:14:09 it may sound odd, but the photo finish in Michigan may be a blessing for Abdul L.C.ED and Michigan Democrats. What's clear is that both factions of the party need each other to prevail in November and now have the opportunity to mobile around issues that unite them, starting with at real Donald Trump. Good take, bad take. I think that's a good take.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I think that's a good take, I think that what we've seen this morning from Haley Stevens, from Mallory McMorrow, from Abdul Al-Said, who all ran against each other. They've all been gracious to each other. And all of the sort of establishment, institutional lefty figures in the party have already done a great job of coming together. The question is, like, can the voters in Michigan do that as well? I think that like seeing the example set by Democratic leaders is a great start. You see Pete Buttigieg basically being like, hey, we're all united around one thing that is defeating Republicans this fall. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And like if someone's going into the polls on election day and they're undecided, it still seems like the best message to be like, you send Mike Rogers there. Donald Trump's going to control the Senate. Do you want Donald Trump to keep control in the Senate? Speaking of Donald Trump, Donald Trump seems to be. be unaware that actually he is the target of all Democrats, all Democrats thoughts, and he seems to think that maybe talking about this will be helpful. He said, and I am quoting, great news for the Republican Party. El-Said, a communist loser who hates Jews and Israel, is a projected winner and is raced with the socialist. I'm side-boring that. As usual, the polls were way off on this one. She was not expected to do nearly as well as she
Starting point is 00:15:50 did. Now the Democrats, crazy policies will only get worse. One, I like that he's presuming already that Abdul will win. Good take. Bad take? Uncomprehensible take? Couldn't understand. I lost him at that. Is Haley Stevens the socialist? I was going to say, I don't think all the words fit together in a way that really you can understand. But going to someone who is more cogent, thinking about November, some people like Jesse Arm, the vice president of external affairs at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank based in New York, think that Abdul al-Said's win could make life easier for Mike Rogers. He goes on to say that Mike Rogers, you know, he should start Democrats for Mike Rogers and start trying to reach
Starting point is 00:16:35 across the aisle. Good take, bad take. Could make life easier. The could is an okay. Yeah, that's okay. It could. It could make Mike Rogers life easier. But we don't know yet. We got to see how Mike Rogers campaigns. Look, I think I think that people in Michigan who know Mike Rogers, they might still think of him as a more moderate Republican or at least a more establishment Republican. And
Starting point is 00:17:01 I think it's going to be up to Abdul and the Democratic Party to remind people that Mike Rogers is now a Trump toady who moved to Florida and made a lot of money and now does whatever Trump tells him to do. I mean, he also told Semaphore that he doesn't know anything about anything, and nor does he care about the Iran war at all, which...
Starting point is 00:17:21 No one's talking about the Iran war. Nope. He doesn't hear about it. What does he think about Trump's terrorist? No idea. That doesn't know. Don't care. Nope.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Don't care. I mean, I care. That was the actual quote. Final take from Nate Silver talking about the polling. Abdul El-Said's apparent victory is a big win for the left, but a disaster for polling. Good take, bad take. I don't know if it's a disaster, but it's another, it's a black mark for polling. Michigan's a hard state to poll.
Starting point is 00:17:45 That's always been true in the general. and now I think it's now it's true in primaries. Primaries are also hard to poll anyway because they're lower turnout, but whoof, could really use a gold standard pollster in Michigan because there's a lot of junk poles turned out. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Michigan, as you said, is weird to poll
Starting point is 00:18:05 because it's full only of the greatest people in the face of the earth and complete weirdos. John, as always, thank you for joining me. Thanks for having me. That was my conversation with John Favro, co-host a Potsave America. Before we go, we don't need to tell you how important these upcoming midterms are or what's at stake. You already know, which is why you also know that we'll need everyone to pitch in and organize in their communities over these coming months.
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Starting point is 00:18:59 Thank you, sir. Sometimes they tape it and watch it. It's okay. I don't know what they call it today. They used to call it TiVo. Maybe they still do. Yeah. But I love TiVo or it's equivalent.
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