What A Day - Labor Rights And SCOTUS Wrongs

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

In a blow to unions and organized labor, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a concrete company seeking to sue the Teamsters union for the profit they lost during one of its strikes. Advocates say the... decision could prevent workers from exercising their right to strike nationwide.The Senate voted to block Biden’s student loan forgiveness program, advancing the Republican-led legislation that nullifies the plan and repeals the current freeze on student loan repayments and interest. The bill now heads to President Biden’s desk, which he’s expected to veto.And in headlines: a Russian missile struck Ukraine’s capital city of Kyiv, Georgia police arrested three organizers providing aid to protestors of Atlanta’s “Cop City," and failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake has dropped a new single.Show Notes:What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastCrooked Coffee is officially here. Our first blend, What A Morning, is available in medium and dark roasts. Wake up with your own bag at crooked.com/coffeeFollow us on Instagram –https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Friday, June 2nd. I'm Traevelle Anderson. And I'm Priyanka Arabindi. And this is What A Day, where we want to publicly condemn the sandbag that tripped Joe Biden yesterday at the Air Force Academy graduation. What's up with that? Shame on you, sandbag. They gave you a platform and you blew it. Yeah, get a job. Stay away from him. No more of this. On today's show, two more members of the far-right militia group The Oath Keepers have been sentenced to prison.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Plus, Carrie Lake has dropped a new single. But first, we got our first Supreme Court opinion of the season yesterday. And it is not looking great, people. In a blow to unions and organized labor, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a concrete company in Washington state that has been trying to pursue a lawsuit against the Teamsters union. The court ruled that federal labor laws don't protect the union from potential liability for damages that result from strikes and that state courts can decide who is liable. So obviously this impacts the Teamsters union in this specific case, but the implications of this decision really extend to any union. Yeah, and we've been seeing a lot more, you know, unionizing happening all over the place over the last couple years. So
Starting point is 00:01:22 this is definitely interesting here. Can you give us some background on this case and why exactly it's so important? Definitely. So this issue in question started back in 2017 during contract negotiations with the concrete company in question, Glacier Northwest Inc. The union, Teamsters Local 174, which represents truck drivers and factory workers, called for a strike and for drivers to walk off the job, which they did while wet concrete was still in their trucks, though they did keep the mixing drums rotating so that it wouldn't immediately harden. Glacier decided then to remove the concrete from the trucks and then break it up once it's hardened. They were obviously not happy about this. They claimed that they lost $100,000 because they weren't able to fulfill a contract on the day of the strike, and they sued the union in
Starting point is 00:02:10 state court. In 2021, the Washington State Supreme Court blocked Glacier's lawsuit. They ruled that what happened to the concrete was incidental to the strike, and it was covered by the National Labor Relations Act, or NLRA, which upholds the rights of workers to strike. But the Supreme Court's decision yesterday reversed that ruling. So advocates of organized labor have said by making unions liable for losses that companies can face during strikes,
Starting point is 00:02:35 it could prevent this union and others from exercising their rights to strike in the future. And that was the basis of the court's dissent in this opinion. But I mean, it was kind of a small dissent. Only one justice. Oh, no, that doesn't sound great for the breakdown. I thought at least, you know, we would have a little bit more of a split.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, I mean, two of the liberal justices joined the six conservatives on the court. I mean, we already have an overwhelming majority there. But the lone dissenter here was Justice Katonji Brown Jackson. She, as I mentioned before, was concerned that this decision could risk eroding the right to strike. Writing for the court's majority, on the other hand, was Justice Amy Coney Barrett. She said, quote, because the union took affirmative steps to endanger Glacier's property rather than reasonable precautions to mitigate that risk, the NLRA does not arguably protect its conduct. This, unfortunately, is pretty in line with the tact that this court has taken on labor. Back in 2018, the conservative majority of the court overturned a pro-union decision dating back decades involving fees paid by government workers. More recently, the Supreme Court ruled that union organizers can't recruit on agricultural land in California,
Starting point is 00:03:45 saying that it violated the rights of employers. But this latest decision comes at a time when, as you just mentioned, more workers and unions across more sectors are coming forward and exercising their right to strike to get their needs met by their employers. We've talked to many a striking worker on this show. They will almost always say that they would rather be working, but they need to be doing this because their situations have become so untenable. There are no other options. And the implications of this ruling could make it that much harder for them to feel like they can exercise that right without being taken to court and possibly becoming liable for the losses that occur when they do that. This decision, I mean, will have really broad implications, not just for this union, but for any union that goes on strike. I mean, if any employer faces losses of any kind, you know, this is basically opening the door for them
Starting point is 00:04:37 to sue. And I think we'll see the effects of this. I mean, I hope not. I hope that unions still kind of step up and when things are wrong, that they are able to strike. But I think this will make at least some workers feel really cautious about wanting to do that in the future. Absolutely. It definitely will like, you know, heighten up the anxiety that I think is already present. Yeah. I mean, these people are already on strike. They're already not getting paid. Like it's already anxiety inducing enough. And then like you might be liable for something that big and intense. It's really daunting. Yeah. Not great. Not great. Not great. Now on to an update in the saga surrounding the student loan debt of up to 40 million Americans, including yours truly. Yesterday, the Senate voted to approve a measure that blocks President
Starting point is 00:05:25 Biden's plan to clear up to $20,000 of student loan debt for folks. This is the plan many of you will remember that has been in limbo for some months as we wait for what will likely be another Supreme Court decision that pisses me off. So in a 52 to 46 vote, the Senate approved this Republican led legislation that nullifies the debt cancellation program and repeals the current freeze on student loan repayments and interest. Now, Biden will definitely veto this. We know that's coming. And because the measure didn't pass with a two thirds majority, they won't be able to override the veto. So no need for immediate concern. But with this largely symbolic move, the writing is on the wall, Priyanka. they won't be able to override the veto. So no need for immediate concern.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But with this largely symbolic move, the writing is on the wall, Priyanka. Yeah. OK. Not liking the looks of this, but let's break down this vote a little bit. What happened here? Yeah. So as I mentioned, this was a Republican led effort. We know that they have rebuked the idea of the debt forgiveness plan since the beginning. They're the reason why it's in front of the Supreme Court right now. But in the Senate, the Republicans were joined by a couple moderate Democrats, including Joe Manchin of West Virginia and John Tester of Montana. And of course, it's not a real party of absurdity unless Kristen Sinema of Arizona, who is an independent, is involved.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So she also threw her support behind this effort. Great. Manchin basically called the plan, quote unquote, reckless and says it adds too much to the national debt. He also said in a statement that it, quote, forces hardworking taxpayers who already paid off their loans or did not go to college to shoulder the cost, which give me a break personally. We don't have children. Our taxes go to like public education for other people's kids. Like you don't see us like sitting here being like,
Starting point is 00:07:10 what the fuck? Why we shouldn't be paying for that? Like, no, this makes no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense. It makes no sense. But in addition to them, there were two other Democratic senators, Michael Bennett of Colorado and Mark Warner of Virginia,
Starting point is 00:07:23 who did not cast votes at all. OK, that is an especially interesting position to take, in my opinion. But you mentioned that President Biden will definitely veto this so it won't become law. But what is next for this plan? Like, will it ever see the light of day? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish I had a better response. So there's two main things here, right?
Starting point is 00:07:45 I already talked about the Supreme Court decision that we are waiting on. They will rule whenever they rule on if Biden can cancel the student loan debt in the first place. And then the second thing is how this entire debt relief plan is actually impacted by the debt ceiling deal that Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy have agreed on, which the Senate began debate about yesterday. In that deal, there's a provision that ends the freeze on student loan payments and interest on August 30th, so just in a few months. Now, this has long been the plan, the Biden administration says, to start payments back. Mind you, payments have been paused since March 2020. That's over three years ago. And that begs the question of if they really need this money anyway, but I digress. And so they're basically saying that because this was always the plan, the debt ceiling deal just
Starting point is 00:08:41 kind of codifies it. Obviously, though, a number of progressives are side-eyeing this idea because it basically locks the administration into this plan, even if the Supreme Court decides that the debt cancellation plan cannot be implemented. And so with that, you know, I have my own message to everybody out there like me who hasn't had to pay on her student loans for over three years at this point. You better start saving your coins. OK, don't let hot girl summer catch you slipping and have you defaulting in the fall. That's not great. Nobody will want that.
Starting point is 00:09:17 OK, so prepare now. I hate to say it. Prepare now so that you are not surprised come August 30th. Okay. More on all of this very soon, I'm sure. But that is the latest for now. Let's get to some headlines. Headlines.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Senators were on track to pass a debt ceiling package on Thursday and yet another nail-biting vote ahead of the June 5th deadline. The bipartisan deal landed in the Senate yesterday after the House overwhelmingly approved it on Wednesday. While the legislation is expected to pass before the weekend, its speedy approval faced pushback from some Senate Republicans who sought to amend the deal with, you guessed it, more defense spending. As we go to record this episode at 9.30 p.m. Eastern, Senators seemed poised to pass the legislation before Monday when Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen says the U.S. will default on its debt. A Russian missile struck Kiev, the capital of Ukraine, Thursday morning, killing at least three people, including a nine-year-old child and her mother,
Starting point is 00:10:31 who were trying to get into a locked air raid shelter. The attack on Kyiv injured 16 people and damaged apartments, schools, and a children's hospital. According to the New York Times, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that the people responsible for the locked bomb shelter should be prosecuted. And Kyiv city officials have opened a criminal investigation looking into the shelters, how they're maintained and why they were locked at the time of the attack. Thursday's strike comes after Kyiv has experienced relentless attacks by Russia over the past couple weeks. Meanwhile, Zelensky is in Moldova for the European Political Community Summit, where he wants to discuss how his country can join the EU and NATO, as well as receive more military support. Just this week, the U.S. approved sending $300 million in military aid to Ukraine. Two more members of the far-right militia group the Oath Keepers were
Starting point is 00:11:23 sentenced on Thursday over their role in the Capitol riots. Roberto Menuda, one of the far-right militia group the Oath Keepers were sentenced on Thursday over their role in the Capitol riots. Roberto Menuda, one of the six Oath Keepers convicted of seditious conspiracy earlier this year, was sentenced to more than four years behind bars. Edward Vallejo was also sentenced on Thursday to three years in prison. Yesterday's convictions come after two of their colleagues, including the group's founder, Stuart Rhodes, were also ordered to serve time for helping organize the violent insurrection that took place on January 6th. Minuta was seen on video guarding Roger Stone, a longtime advisor to former President Donald Trump, just hours before protesters stormed the Capitol on January 6th. And federal prosecutors said that he bought 5,500 rounds of ammunition ahead of the insurrection. I don't know what you're planning to do with 5,500 rounds of ammunition. Nothing good. Nothing good.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Okay. Nothing good. While Menuda tried to come across as apologetic in court during yesterday's sentencing, prosecutors were quick to point out a social media post that Menuda made shortly after he was arrested in March of 2021 that referred to all January 6th defendants as quote-unquote political prisoners. Really gonna need them to give up that political prisoners thing. It's not working and it's also not accurate. Don't flatter yourself like that. I'm so sorry. That's absolutely not what you are. You are domestic terrorists, but okay. And finally,
Starting point is 00:12:46 an update on Cop City, the $90 million police training complex that Georgia law enforcement wants to build on 300 acres of forest near a predominantly black neighborhood in Atlanta. Earlier this year, we told you about how police killed Manuel Teran, also known by the nickname Tortuguita, during a cop city protest in January. More than 40 people have been charged with domestic terrorism, wild, we were just talking about that, very different, for organizing demonstrations against the proposed facility so far. And the crackdown on protesters by law enforcement has only continued. On Wednesday, Georgia police arrested three head
Starting point is 00:13:25 organizers of the Atlanta Solidarity Fund, a community bail fund that has helped bail cop city protesters out of jail after being arrested. The three organizers were hit with felony charges of money laundering and charity fraud, and they were taken into custody after police searched one of their homes. State investigators say that they have evidence linking the trio to the financial crimes that they are accused of, but the lawyer representing them said he had yet to determine what that evidence could be. The three Atlanta Solidarity Fund organizers
Starting point is 00:13:54 will likely appear in court in the coming days. This is so crazy. These charges for what these people are doing are so wildly overblown. It is crazy. Yeah, it's really wild that one, it seems like nobody wants this quote unquote cop city in the first place. Right. But also the fact that taxpayer dollars will go in part towards putting this multi million dollar, 90 million dollar to be specific you know training
Starting point is 00:14:26 complex together and if the training that y'all have had thus far hasn't got you treating people better i don't know that a new complex will help do that but you know what do i know priyanka i don't know yeah unclear how throwing money at this problem makes it any better like i don't think you need 300 acres uh worth of classrooms to uh teach police not to kill black and brown people but uh that's just me anyways so wild so wild so wild absurd and those are the headlines we'll be back after some ads it's friday wad squad and today we're doing a segment we like to call No Context Bad Vibes. No Context Bad Vibes. Oh yes, take a listen to today's clip. If you would have told me two years ago, three years ago, that I would be in the middle of a political movement, I would have said, put down Hunter's crack pipe.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Right now. Right now. I can't afford the groceries. I can't afford your gas. It's Biden flesh and cross the nation. 81 million votes my ass. Hey, 81 million votes my ass 81 million votes my ass What is going on? Oh my god
Starting point is 00:15:52 Okay That was of course Failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Carrie Lake's new single Charmingly titled 81 million votes my ass The title comes from a comment lake made in her speech at cpac's ronald reagan dinner referring of course to the number of votes biden got in the 2020
Starting point is 00:16:13 election lake an election denier in case you could not tell and rumored senate hopeful was apparently approached to collaborate by disgraced former Fox anchor Ed Henry, who said the phrase reminded him of a country song. With Lake's blessing, Henry moved forward with the track, collaborating with music executive L.J. Fino, who worked on Trump and the J6 prison choir's Haunting Justice for All. I remember that one. Haunting is correct. And songwriter Jeffrey Steele, a singer who has apparently written for Tim McGraw and Rascal Flatts.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Now that we've got some context, Priyanka, what are your thoughts on this clip? Listen, that context, I don't know if that's helping me make any sense of what I just heard. It is all, I'm floored a little bit. I don't know if I heard that much of Carrie Lake's voice in that it's her so-called single I feel like she she's really more of a feature but yeah failed gubernatorial candidate potentially failed country star I didn't like that but it was fun to laugh too might I want to hear more possibly did I like it actually it's a little bit of an earworm so that's the thing yeah I don't know You're watching my reactions in real time.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah, well, so that's the thing. It gives earworm, right? It's a little catchy. It's kind of in my head. I was over here tapping my toes. I'm not going to sing it. I'm not going to sing it in the mic. I can't do that to myself. I was over here tapping my toes. I'm too young. I'm too young to be canceled like that. And I hate that for us that, you know know all you need is a good beat you know a good little rhythm line and here we are bopping our head to their foolishness i want to be clear it is foolishness can't afford my groceries can't afford my gas um oh see you know the words already summer song of the summer we have of the summer. We have one. We didn't until now.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Move over, Taylor Swift. Move over, Beyonce. Here we are. Oh, Lord have mercy today. That was No Context Bad Vibes. No Context Bad Vibes. Extremely, extremely bad vibes. That's all for today.
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