What A Day - Morehouse Graduates Silently Protest Biden's Commencement Speech
Episode Date: May 20, 2024President Joe Biden gave the commencement speech at Morehouse College’s graduation ceremony on Sunday. Some students and faculty at the historically black college in Atlanta protested his presence o...n campus amid the war in Gaza.Donald Trump’s criminal hush-money case may wind down this week in Manhattan. The prosecution could rest its case as soon as today. Longtime federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann says while Trump could still decide to testify, he likely knows it would be ‘suicide.’And in headlines: Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi died in a helicopter crash in the country's mountainous northwest, Sunday. Iran state media reported there were 'no survivors,' Israeli war cabinet member Benny Gantz says he'll leave the country's government in June if it doesn't come up with a plan for the war in Gaza, and rapper P. Diddy released an apology after CNN published surveillance video from 2016 of him physically assaulting his then-girlfriend Cassie Ventura. Show Notes:Listen to WAD episode with Morehouse Professor Andrew Douglas https://tinyurl.com/mv5mfyx5What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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it's monday may 20th i'm treyvelle anderson and i'm josie duffy rice and this is what a day where
we can't stop saying bleach blonde bad built butch body listen congresswoman jasmine crockett gave us
this iconic line against marjorie taylor green late last week and i have to stand it's incredible
what a read, okay? Truly.
On today's show, we look at what could be the final week of Trump's hush money trial,
plus did he resurfaces with an apology? Save it, please. But first, President Biden gave the
commencement speech at Morehouse College's graduation on Sunday. Morehouse is a historically Black college here in Atlanta. It is the alma
mater of Martin Luther King Jr., also my dad, and also, of course, your alma mater, Trayvon.
It is mine. Shout out to them for me being part of their legacy.
Truly.
Now, many Morehouse students and faculty oppose the administration's decision to invite President Biden to speak at graduation, given the war in Gaza.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the podium the 46th countless other universities and institutions, there is a sizable contingent at Morehouse who've been openly critical of the war and the role America has played in it to the tune of billions of dollars.
As you said, we've been talking about this a lot.
And at Morehouse, there was also conflict over whether Biden should receive an honorary degree from the institution.
So ultimately, it went to a faculty vote and 50 out of 88 voted to grant the degree,
with the university statement specifying that giving Biden that honor, quote, is not because of current political affairs.
However, some faculty members skipped commencement to protest Biden.
Here's professor of political science, Dr. Andrew Douglas, talking about Biden in the context of King's legacy.
We're listening to Biden in the context of a historic student movement against imperialism
in our time now, smearing student protest, arguing against the thesis that King put forward
in the letter from Birmingham jail, saying that order is more important than justice.
And he's coming to Morehouse College. In this moment, it's unthinkable.
Dr. Douglas, FYI, was on our episode titled The Anti-Capitalist Legacy of MLK Jr. a couple years
ago. We'll put the link in our show notes. But ultimately, the graduation went
off without major disruption. Some people turned their backs. A few students walked out as the
honorary degree was conferred. And I know we're going to get to Biden's speech in a moment,
but can we shout out one moment from the valedictorian D'Angelo Jeremiah Fletcher's
speech in which he called for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza?
From the comforts of our homes, we watched an unprecedented number of
civilians mourn the loss of men, women, and children while calling for the
release of all hostages. For the first time in our lives, we've heard the global
community sing one harmonious song that transcends language and culture.
It is my stance as a Morehouse man, nay, as a human being, to call for an immediate and permanent ceasefire in the Gaza Strip.
It really is such a courageous thing to do in front of the president.
And I liked that he focused on the unity of people calling for this ceasefire, right,
instead of focusing on the disagreement.
And Biden sat behind him and he clapped after Fletcher's statement,
which is notable, maybe not meaningful, but notable.
Absolutely notable.
Let's get into the speech that Biden gave now. What did he have to say?
You know, he said a lot. He acknowledged that the class of 2024 has had a particularly tough and unusual college experience, right?
These are the kids who had their senior year of high school and much of their early college experience interrupted by COVID.
And he also talked about the fallout from the murder of George Floyd by police.
You missed your high school graduation. You started college just as George Floyd was murdered.
And there was a reckoning on race. It's natural to wonder if democracy you hear about actually
works for you. What is democracy?
If black men are being killed in the street, what is democracy?
The trail of broken promises still leave black communities behind.
What is democracy?
You have to be ten times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.
Most of all, what does it mean, as we've heard before, to be a Black man who loves
his country, even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure? Biden also acknowledged the
importance of protest. I want to say this very clearly. I support peaceful, nonviolent protest.
Your voices should be heard.
And I promise you I hear them.
And later in his speech, he also talked about Gaza and the future of Israel and Palestine.
And notably, Biden did call for a ceasefire in Gaza, though not a permanent one.
It's a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
That's why I've called for an immediate ceasefire, an immediate ceasefire to
stop the fighting, bring the hostages home. And I've been working on a deal as we speak,
working around the clock to lead an international effort to get more aid into Gaza.
Thanks for that, Josie. Meanwhile, in Manhattan, former President Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial
is starting to wind down. This morning, Trump's defense attorneys are expected to wrap up their
cross-examination of Michael Cohen, Trump's former self-appointed fixer. And when we left off last
week, Trump's attorneys claimed they'd caught Cohen lying to the jury about a phone call he
says he made to Trump. It could be a potentially
damaging blow to one of the prosecution's star witnesses. Cohen is also the prosecution's last
witness, meaning they could rest their case later today. So once the district attorney's office
rests its case, what is going to happen next? And really, I'm wondering, do we know if Trump
is going to testify here? So Trump's defense team has indicated it does plan to call a few witnesses, but his lawyers have not confirmed whether or not Trump is one of them.
Legal experts say that it is unlikely, though, that Trump will testify because it's just too risky.
And we also know that Trump is special in so many ways. That said, the judge overseeing this
case, Justice Juan Merchan, told attorneys to prepare for closing arguments as soon as Tuesday.
That means the jury could start their deliberations later this week. And to get a better sense of what
we can expect from the hush money trial this week, I spoke with Andrew Weissman. He was a senior prosecutor in
Robert Mueller's special counsel investigation into Trump. And he's now a law professor at New
York University and host of the MSNBC podcast, Prosecuting Donald Trump. I started by asking
him how Cohen has fared as the prosecution's key witness. I mean, he himself has done fine. Like he's been good on the stand.
I watched him. He's pretty unflappable, you know, but he's still Michael Cohen. So I don't think
there's a lot of surprises. He was never going to be like a terrific witness. It's not like you're
calling a priest or a nun or a rabbi or pick whatever upstanding member of society. So he's done fine.
But I think the idea that the state wants to bring out is, you kind of know what happened
before he took the stand, like the evidence is all there, the documents, and that he's telling
you what you kind of know anyway. You kind of mentioned this already, right? But during the cross-examination,
Trump's attorney, Todd Blanch, went to lengths to hammer at Cohen's credibility as a serial liar,
as a criminal bent on, you know, bringing Trump down. Most notably, Blanch accused Cohen of lying
to the jury last week. There's a phone call involved that Cohen claims he made to Trump to
discuss a plan to pay adult film star Stormy Daniels. The lawyer, Trump's attorney, has
presented text messages that show that maybe the call was actually about something else.
How damaging, if at all, is the idea that Michael Cohen may or may not be a liar already to the
prosecution's case here? Well, that moment of cross was definitely a good point for the
defense. I've never done a trial when I was a prosecutor, where some witness doesn't make a
mistake. And of course, the defense lawyer doesn't ever want to say, oh, it's a mistake. They want to say, oh, you're lying. You know, and there's obviously,
we all know in our own lives, there's a huge difference between a mistake and a lie.
The thing that, you know, made it so obvious to me that it must be a mistake is there were so
many other calls he talked about, including calls where the phone records show he's having calls with Donald Trump.
And some of those calls were much more significant to the story he was telling. In other words,
two days later on October 26, he has these two calls with Donald Trump. And we know that not
because of Michael Cohen, but because of the phone records. And that's the same day that Michael Cohen wires $130,000 to the lawyer for Stormy Daniels.
So it just seems like a really weird thing to make up a fairly innocuous call on the 24th,
two days earlier, and to be lying about it.
Now, it's never good for any witness to make a mistake.
So, you know, it's definitely a point for the defense.
It'll be interesting to see, like, how the jury takes it and what the arguments are on both sides about that mistake.
Stepping a little further out, to what extent do you think a conviction actually hangs on whether
or not the jury believes Michael Cohen specifically versus Stormy Daniels is spirited, I would say,
testimony a few days prior. Well, I think Stormy Daniels, you don't have to believe her at all for the defendant to be
guilty. I mean, it doesn't really matter whether her story is true or not. The question is whether
he wanted to kill her story and keep it from the public. I do think with Michael Cohen,
one thing to look for is that's going to be a real battleground in the summations that may happen as soon as tomorrow on Tuesday.
And I think the defense is going to say he's the critical witness.
And if you don't believe him, you cannot convict or if he raises reasonable doubt, you cannot convict because he's critical to the case.
And the state will be saying,
of course he's not. No one's going to bring a case based solely on him. And his story is highly corroborated, but there's independent evidence. And I think I would ask the jury to think about
what they were thinking about all of the proof in the case up until the time that he testified.
And I would sort of sum up based on all of that
as to how the case was proved and then say,
and you have Michael Cohen.
And you know what?
There's a lot you cannot believe about him.
There's a lot that you can say he's a liar and a cheat
and done all sorts of terrible things in his life
and maybe even on the stand.
But just because you've lied a lot
doesn't mean you're always lying.
And here, you know that his story is truthful because of the corroboration of it.
But I think you're going to hear a lot of you don't need it by the state, and the defense is going to say you do.
In your kind of opinion, your analysis of what's going on, has the prosecution done what it needs to do here? Have they given the jury enough evidence to
prove that the former president falsified business records to conceal payments to Cohen made to
protect his bid right for the 2016 presidential race? I do because we know that Michael Cohen and the chief financial officer, Alan Weisberg,
were aware of the entire scheme and were in on it. The idea that they would have kept this
from Donald Trump just seems absolutely incredible. They'd have no personal gain
to have kept it from their boss. They would have enormous incentives not to because they could
be fired at any moment. And in order to keep it from them, remember, in order for the scheme to
work, Donald Trump still has to sign the checks, and he does sign the checks. So you'd be risking,
if you're trying to do this behind his back, you'd be risking your boss over the course of a year and signing checks for over
$260,000 saying, I'm sorry, what the hell is this for? And what would you say? Oh, I'm sorry,
we have a scheme that we orchestrated behind your back where you're going to pay out $260,000.
But we decided for no good reason not to tell you about it.
So once the prosecution rests, the defense will get a chance to call their witnesses.
Who do we expect them to call?
I don't know, but the one thing I can tell you is I don't expect them to call Donald Trump.
Tell me why.
In a criminal case, the defendant has a right to testify, and that right is personal, meaning the defense lawyer cannot make that choice. The defendant himself or herself has to make the choice. You absolutely do
not have to, and the jury's instructed if you don't testify that they can't hold it against
you in any way, because of course it's the state's burden. But as much as Donald Trump
seems to think he's the best lawyer and strategist in the world,
I think even he understands that it would be pretty close to suicide for him to testify.
You know, I worked on the Mueller investigation. And so I view it through that lens where just to
take us back through history, he at the start of the investigation said, Oh, yeah, of course,
I look forward to meeting with them and talking to them. Yeah, that never happened. I'm still
waiting. So I just don't think he's put himself in that kind of position. I don't think he's
going to do that here. Probably for the best, considering how I think the word folks have
been using is volatile to describe him and his behavior. That's one word. That is one word. That was my
conversation with Andrew Weissman, longtime federal prosecutor and host of the MSNBC podcast,
Prosecuting Donald Trump. That's the latest for now. We'll get to some headlines in a moment.
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Now let's wrap up with some headlines.
Headlines. On Sunday, Iranian President Ibrahim Raisi was killed in a helicopter
crash in Iran's Northwest Mountains, according to the country's state-run media. Weather, including
heavy fog, is believed to have played a role in the crash. Raisi was traveling back from Iran's
East Azerbaijan province with the country's foreign minister and other Iranian officials and bodyguards. Raisi, Iran's hardline president, was seen as
the protege to Iran's supreme leader and a potential successor within the Shiite theocracy.
A high-level member in Israel's war cabinet gave Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu an ultimatum on
Saturday. Benny Gantz, the head of the National Unity Party,
said his party will leave the government
if it doesn't develop a plan for the future of the war in Gaza by early June.
In a speech, Gantz accused Netanyahu of being motivated
by his own political and personal interests
rather than that of the national security of the country.
It's yet another sign of the growing pressure
that Netanyahu is facing internationally and domestically to clarify his war strategy. Israelis took to the
streets this weekend to protest Netanyahu's government in Tel Aviv. The protesters were
calling for the immediate release of the roughly 125 hostages who have been held by Hamas since
October 7th. The Israel Defense Forces announced late
last week that they recovered bodies of four hostages from northern Gaza during an operation
in run of the refugee camps. We've got a little Union Station roundup for y'all on this fine
Monday. So all aboard, Trayvill. Choo choo. First off, the United Auto Workers faced a setback over
the weekend when a Mercedes plant in Alabama voted not to unionize.
It's the first loss in a string of recent victories for the UAW, especially coming off the high of a big win at a Tennessee Volkswagen plant.
But in better news, you better believe that Mickey Mouse and Goofy are pro-union, baby.
Disneyland workers who dress and act as Disney characters voted overwhelmingly to unionize in an election this past week.
More than 1,700 employees participated,
and now Magic United is fighting for better pay,
safety measures, and schedules.
Those are hot costumes.
You need protection.
The best protections, okay?
Truly.
Sean Combs, known as Diddy, Puff Daddy, Daddy Love whatever he's calling himself right now
released a message on Instagram apologizing after CNN published surveillance video from 2016
of him brutally physically assaulting his then girlfriend Cassie Ventura in the hallway of a
hotel the video was posted Friday and backs up the allegations in the lawsuit
that Cassie filed back in November.
Combs has repeatedly denied Cassie's allegations
of rape and abuse since she first filed the lawsuit
against him, which was settled a day later.
On Sunday, Combs posted a video addressing his behavior.
He never mentioned Cassie by name.
I was f***ed up. I mean, I hit rock bottom,
but I make no excuses. My behavior on that video is inexcusable. Cassie's lawyer posted a statement
online on Sunday after Combs' video saying, quote, Combs' most recent statement is more about himself than the many people
he has hurt. When Cassie
and multiple other women came forward,
he denied everything and
suggested that his victims were looking for
a payday. Yeah, there's some real irony in him
saying, I make no excuses.
After making... You literally
exclusively made excuses for
months. Come on now. You denied it
entirely. You said, whatever.
And one final note,
90-year-old Edward Dwight
finally made it to space.
Dwight and five crewmates
took off Sunday from West Texas
on Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin's
New Shepard rocket.
He was actually the first Black man
trained as an astronaut back in 1961,
but he never actually got to make
the trip to space. And now he finally has, so.
I'm so glad that he has finally achieved this dream of his.
I just hate that it wasn't via a one Jeff Bezos.
But I also gotta say, being 90 and being on a rocket
sounds like the absolute least fun thing on earth.
He said, I ain't got too much time left so why not
maybe i'll go you know what i mean yeah truly shout out to him though yeah shout out to him
and those are the headlines
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I'm Trayvon Anderson.
And baby girl,
don't even play.
Baby girl,
I'm going to make that my ringtone.
I love that this has now become,
you know,
language that you hear
in our
hallowed halls of Congress.
Jasmine and AOC are trying to
keep it professional.
Give her a warning.
And be real.
And I love it.
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