What A Day - One Year After Uvalde
Episode Date: May 24, 2023A year ago today, a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary School. As the community of Uvalde, Texas marks the grim anniversary, families of the victims continue to demand answe...rs – and accountability – from law enforcement and elected leaders. Shannon Watts, founder of the gun control advocacy group Moms Demand Action, joins us to discuss what needs to be done to stop America’s gun violence crisis.And in headlines: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is expected to announce his presidential campaign today on Twitter, writer E. Jean Carroll is seeking more punitive damages from Donald Trump, and the Los Angeles Dodgers have re-invited the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to their upcoming Pride Night celebration.Show Notes:Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America – https://momsdemandaction.org/Everytown for Gun Safety: Survivor Network – https://www.everytown.org/organization/survivor-network/Texas Tribune | Uvalde school shooting coverage – https://www.texastribune.org/series/uvalde-texas-school-shooting/What A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastCrooked Coffee is officially here. Our first blend, What A Morning, is available in medium and dark roasts. Wake up with your own bag at crooked.com/coffeeFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It's Wednesday, May 24th.
I'm Erin Ryan.
And I'm Josie Duffy Rice, and this is What A Day.
We're in honor of Bob Dylan's birthday.
We are reminding you that Timothee Chalamet will be playing him in the next biopic.
And before you ask, yes, he's doing the singing.
But I gotta say, Bob Dylan was booed offstage of his high school talent show when he tried to sing. He can't sing. He's not a songbird, that Bob Dylan.
On today's show, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is expected to announce his bid for 2024 in one of
the worst ways possible. Plus, a Russian court has extended the detention of an American journalist. But first, on May 24th, 2022, one year ago,
a gunman entered an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, and killed 19 students and two teachers.
The response to the shooting echoed what we've often seen in the wake of senseless violence
in this country. On one side, rage, demand for change, and a call for lawmakers to enact reforms that most Americans support.
On the other, useless platitudes about thoughts and prayers, and blame placed on everything but the guns.
In the months since, we've learned heartbreaking details about how this tragedy could and should have been prevented,
both by lawmakers who failed to protect the public from firearms
and law enforcement officials who failed to take appropriate action that morning.
As a reminder, nearly 400 law enforcement officers descended on the school that day
and waited over an hour to confront the gunman.
Yeah, one of the most horrific stories in recent memory, which is really saying something
considering how many horrific stories there have been in recent memory, which is really saying something considering how many
horrific stories there have been in recent memory. So to get some perspective in all this and some
reflection, I sat down with Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, the nation's
largest grassroots group fighting gun violence. Watts, a mother of five, founded Moms Demand on
December 15th, 2012, the day after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Since then, the organization, which is now part of Everytown for Gun Safety, has grown to more
than 10 million members across all 50 states. Watts recently announced that she will be stepping
down from her role in the organization at the end of the year. I started off by asking Shannon how
the Uvalde community has weathered such an immense tragedy over the past year. I am not a gun violence
survivor. I just think it is so heroic, first of all, that they have survived the worst tragedy
that one can imagine. I also want to be clear that, you know, you don't have to be an activist
to be a hero. Some of these people are just figuring out how to make it one day at a time, right? I mean, this is 21 children
and teachers missing from their dinner tables in their classrooms. We have to honor them. And we
have to remember that it isn't just one protest. It isn't just one policy. It isn't just one social
media post, right? It is the unglamorous heavy lifting of grassroots activists. And I think that is so clear in a state like Texas.
You know, Texas has had more mass shootings than any other state, 48 alone since the shooting tragedy in Uvalde.
And yet their Republican lawmakers are continuing to weaken the state's gun laws. You know, they've had opportunities time and time again to pass
legislation that could have prevented the horrific shooting in Uvalde, like raising the age to buy
an assault weapon from 18 to 21. And they continually do the opposite. And I watched
the Uvalde families, the survivors, show up in the statehouse and chant and protest and, you know,
put their bodies on the line just to pass a bill through a House committee. They waited 12 hours
for this committee to finally vote. And that, you know, in itself was something that hadn't happened. It was
important progress, but it still never made it to the floor for a vote in either chamber. So
I've watched them do heroic things, and I know that they won't give up. I know that.
You mentioned the efforts to raise the age to get a weapon like this from 18 to 21.
What other policy changes and gun reform
bills have families of the victims been calling for or families across the country? We're focused
on Texas in particular, but I think this is a nationwide question. And how have lawmakers and
public officials responded to them? I mean, you said they're weakening the gun laws, but just
expounding on that just a bit. Every time there's a horrific shooting tragedy like this with an AR-15, there is
always a call to ban assault rifles. And we are calling for that obviously at a federal level, but
we've had the most success at a city and state level. In the last couple of years, we've passed
assault weapons bans in four states, most recently in Washington state, this legislative session.
You know, AR-15s are the tool of choice for gunmen who commit mass shootings.
Ten of the deadliest mass school shootings in the last eight years have involved an assault rifle.
But that isn't the only policy that we need and have to look at.
We have to strengthen our nation's background
check system. We have done this at a state-by-state level. Over the last decade, we have now passed
background checks in 20 states. That just means that unlicensed sellers have to conduct background
checks, and that helps keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. But at the same time,
we're watching the gun lobby in red states pass something called permitless carry. Now in over two dozen states, you can carry
a hidden loaded handgun in public without a background check or safety training or a permit.
We are also working to pass secure storage laws that keep guns out of the hands of kids and teens.
Most school shooters in this country are actually students who have easy access to
unsecured guns in their homes. And then finally, working to fund community violence intervention
programs. These are community programs that have relationships that can stop retaliatory gun
violence before it happens. And this is just such life-saving work that we're finally seeing being recognized, not just by cities and states through unlocked budget dollars, but even at a federal level.
We unlocked millions of dollars through the Bipartisan Saver Communities Act for community violence intervention programs last summer.
Right.
So going back to the investigation into what happened in Uvalde, there has been a criminal
investigation into the police response that day.
That investigation is still happening.
And the community is kind of still waiting for answers.
So what are they asking for?
And what do you think is the reason behind the sort of lack of transparency coming from
not just the local police, but the state, really?
Well, the families are asking for transparency.
They're asking for answers to their questions about how did this happen?
Just this week, we saw that parents are finally getting access,
not from the state, not from the government,
but from media to video of what was happening that day.
And it is horrific, right?
We're seeing police officers vomiting because they were so traumatized by what they saw in those classrooms. A year later,
these parents are just now being able to access this video and not because of the Abbott
administration, but because the media was willing to show it to them. We should be very concerned
when a government not only isn't trying
to solve the issue, they want to prevent the families most impacted from understanding what
happened. Because if you don't understand what happened, you can't fix it. And that seems to be
what Abbott's administration is intent on, not providing answers so that they don't have to provide solutions. That is corruption. And
we should all be concerned about not having access to information on one of the most horrific
shooting tragedies this country has ever experienced. I mean, if you look at other
peer nations, they have not only done thorough investigations, they have acted with alacrity, right?
They have quickly put solutions in place.
And we're seeing Texas lawmakers, I want to be clear, Texas Republicans, doing the opposite.
Just going back to the police response that day, it obviously got a ton of criticism and it was a major kind of added horror, I think, to so many people of the already just unfathomable
horror of what happened that day.
I think it also kind of cuts against this idea, right, that a good guy with a gun stops
a bad guy with a gun.
And so when you heard about what happened with the police that day and kind of this
like feeling many people had that they
should have acted faster, they should have done more. What does that say to you about the broader
kind of situation we have on our hands, right, when it comes to gun violence?
So to be clear, nearly 400 officers, many of them armed with handguns or semi-automatic rifles,
were unable to stop a teenager with a semi-automatic rifle.
They did not want to go in. According to reports, they were worried that they were outgunned.
This person clearly had a death wish. He did not care if he was killed as he was killing
innocent children and educators. And this idea that somehow arming teachers or having armed school resource officers
is going to save us is really highlighted by the the failures in Uvalde that day you know
Ted Cruz is always talking about the need for more guns in schools and he says you know it isn't laws
that's going to fix this and I know, I just want to be clear that
there was a hot air balloon tragedy in the state of Texas where 16 people were killed in Lockhart.
And Senator Cruz put forward legislation to tighten hot air balloon regulations. That
legislation passed. And it just sort of highlights the fact that it isn't that Ted Cruz doesn't think gun laws
won't work. It is that there is no hot air lobby funding his Senate seat. Ted Cruz and other Texas
Republicans at the federal and state levels are in the pockets of gun lobbyists. They clearly do
not care that children are dying. That is not hyperbole. You know, we have short memories in this country,
and this should be at the top of everyone's mind
when we vote in November.
That was my conversation with Shannon Watts,
founder of the anti-gun violence group Moms Demand Action.
We'll keep you posted on any progress
from our elected officials to stop these massacres
from happening in the first place.
Until then, our hearts go out to everybody in Uvalde today.
Let's get to some headlines.
Headlines.
In what may be one of the most cursed collabs in modern history,
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is expected to announce his presidential campaign today on Twitter.
Yes, this is a real thing that's happening,
and not just some elaborate punishment generated by an artificial intelligence chatbot.
Honestly, this is why the writers are trying to get AI out of stuff, you know?
I know. Honestly?
No, this is real. It really does. They AI out of stuff. You know? I know. Honestly? No, this is real.
It really does.
Humans came up with this.
Humans came up with this.
Or whoever is controlling the simulation.
It's true.
According to multiple reports, DeSantis will make a live appearance on Twitter Spaces,
a thing that I just learned existed as I was preparing for today's show,
alongside the chief twit himself, Elon Musk.
Well, that's going to go down great for swing voters in the Midwest.
You know, Republican primary voters in Iowa are going to be like,
good, finally, Twitter space is the place I get my news.
Elon Musk, the guy I look to for guidance.
Literally.
Oh, man.
Great strategy.
Boomers.
Famously great at Twitter.
Boomers from Iowa.
Famously love Twitter.
Famously love Twitter.
We'll have more to say about Meatball Ron, his astonishing lack of charisma and his extraordinarily dangerous political agenda on tomorrow's show.
But just as a treat, an advisor for former President Donald Trump reportedly told CBS
News yesterday, quote, Announcing on Twitter is perfect for Ron DeSantis.
This way, he doesn't have to interact with people and the media can't ask him any questions.
I got to say, Ron DeSantis making Donald Trump's advisors, friends and spokespeople seem charismatic and funny since 2023.
Incredible.
Yeah.
He's right.
Yep.
He's right.
Broken clock. Broken clock.
A Russian court yesterday extended the detention of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich for another three months. Russian authorities arrested Gershkovich back in March for espionage,
charges that the journal and the U.S. government have repeatedly denied. Gershkovich has been held
in pretrial detention ever since.
And many of the legal proceedings in his case have been held behind closed doors,
including yesterday's hearing. Members of the press and even Gershkovich's own parents were denied entry to the courtroom, though the U.S. State Department said at least one U.S. embassy
official was allowed inside to observe. A department spokesperson once again called
on Russia to release Gershkovich, calling the allegations against him baseless.
This is the first time Russia has detained a U.S. correspondent on spying charges since the Cold War.
And Gershkovich could spend 20 years in Russian prison if convicted.
His next hearing is scheduled for August 30th.
And in some fuck around and find out news, writer E. Jane Carroll is seeking more punitive damages
from Donald Trump. You'll remember that about two weeks ago, Carroll won five million dollars in the
civil sexual assault and defamation case against the former president. She's now going after Trump
for the comments he made about her the day after the verdict during a CNN town hall. During the
event, Trump once again accused her of lying about the
alleged assault and even suggested that she is mentally unstable. In a court filing Monday,
Carroll added an additional complaint to a separate and still pending suit she filed against
Trump. This one is over comments he made about her in 2019 when she first went public with the
allegations. The amendment includes the verdict handed down earlier this month
and all the shit Trump said about her on CNN.
She's now asking for at least $10 million in damages.
Carroll's lawyers said Trump's statements, quote,
show the depth of his malice toward her,
since it's hard to imagine defamatory conduct
that could possibly be more motivated by hatred, ill will, or spite.
Yeah, this reminds me of that scene in Austin Powers where he's like, I love where this is going already.
And he's reclaiming his penis pump after being unfrozen in front of Elizabeth Hurley.
And he's denying that it's his.
And they're like, a photo of you with the penis pump.
Like that is literally Donald Trump's case in this civil. It's like a video of you on CNN saying defamatory things the day after a five million dollar judgment was awarded to the plaintiff.
Like, dude.
I mean, I can't think of anything more beautiful than to win that case in civil court, win that money, and then have him do the exact
same thing the next day. Yeah. It's like the best version of of Groundhog's Day to me. I mean,
men don't change even from day to day. But I have to say, usually for $10 million,
they will change. You would think. Everybody has a price. You would think. Yeah. Here's some proof
that divine intervention is real. On Monday, the L. the LA Dodgers re-invited members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to their upcoming Pride Night celebration. We told you last
week that the team rescinded their invitation to the Los Angeles chapter of the legendary
drag performance art and activist group after bowing to pressure from conservatives and
Catholic organizations. That in turn drew heavy backlash from LGBTQ plus and civil rights groups.
Over the weekend, representatives from queer advocacy groups
and even some of the sisters themselves
sat down at the Dodgers front office to work it out.
The team has since apologized,
and like the good, forgiving Catholics there at heart,
the sisters accepted.
They'll be honored with the team's Community Hero Award
on June 16th at Chavez Ravine
when the Dodgers host the San Francisco Giants.
Angelenos, do not miss your chance
to see these drag nuns
truly serving bunt.
Oh.
That was good.
Wow.
That was good.
That was great.
I don't know what a bunt is
in baseball,
but I know it's a thing.
Like, isn't it when you
just like kind of hit it?
You deliberately hit the ball
into the infield,
like a grounder
into the infield
so that you have to make
the baseman choose between who they're going to. It's like, it's usually like a grounder into the infield, so that you have to make the baseman choose
between who they're going to... It's usually
like a sacrifice, or you're just trying to get on base.
Okay. Yeah. God,
that's a good joke. That's a great joke.
And finally, when it comes to weird choices
from the apps we watch our TV
shows on, when it rains, it streams.
Netflix continued its big
game of chicken with password sharers everywhere,
announcing yesterday that their new page sharing feature would officially start rolling out for U.S. users.
Primary account holders with Netflix subscriptions will be prompted to set a household location on their devices, and any logged-in accounts not regularly connected to that main location's Wi-Fi will be directed to sign up for a new subscription.
Standard accounts will be allowed to add one non-household member,
and for an additional $8 a month, you can have two non-household members.
Meanwhile, in case you haven't been asked to download an entirely new app yet,
the streaming network formerly known as HBO, HBO Go, HBO Now, and HBO Max
officially rebranded as Max yesterday.
Following suit, What A Day will now be known as Jonathan. I'm really feeling bad that my
nomination for just calling it What was overruled. Just changing a great brand to something stupid.
Just change it for the sake of changing it. You know, you're an executive. Your job really is
kind of useless. You got to show that you are doing important work by changing something.
You have earned the $19 million you've made.
Yeah, change something that doesn't need to be changed.
That's the way.
And those are the headlines.
We'll be back after some ads to ask
what in tarnation is going on in the Texas legislature.
It's Wednesday WOD Squad,
and today we're doing a segment we like to call No Context, Bad Vibes.
No Context, Bad Vibes.
I've never heard that before, and it is bad vibes.
Take a listen to today's clip.
Mr. Speaker, I move adoption.
Mr. Campbell, the amendment is accepted by the author.
Is there objection to the adoption of the amendment? The jury has done the amendment. The amendment is acceptable to the author. Is there objection to the opposite amendment? The chair
has done the amendment. Amendment is adopted.
The chair recognizes
Mr. Johnson of Harris
Mr. Johnson of Harris
to speak in opposition to
the bill.
Oh. Yeah. What?
What were the words? What were the words?
Mm-hmm.
What were the words?
What were the words?
Look, I've got an 18-month-old child.
She is learning how to speak.
Most of the things she says are not very clear.
I would say if she were presiding over a governing body...
I'd give her the gavel.
I think that her communication skills would be clearer than that person. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
Okay. So that was a somewhat affected Texas House Speaker
Dade Phelan. Dade Phelan. Is there a more Texas name?
Holding court in the state's House of Representatives last Friday night.
The clip got some heat over the weekend with many noting that the Republican House Speaker
seemed noticeably sloshed. But Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, also a Republican, really threw gas on the
brisket smoker yesterday when he released a statement accusing Phelan of, quote,
debilitating intoxication and called for his immediate resignation. Within the day,
Phelan's team hit back, claiming the AG was actually trying to pull focus from an active House investigation,
namely the specific reasons why Paxton wants to use over $3 million in taxpayer money to settle a whistleblower lawsuit accusing him of misconduct.
Wow, this is a real Texas brisket of bad decisions and bad behavior.
A lot of ingredients.
There's a lot going on.
Many Texas lawmakers, including Phelan,
have publicly opposed Paxton's request.
The statement from Paxton's office
calling for Phelan's resignation
went out just two hours before a House committee
was ready to announce subpoenas for the investigation,
including one for a member of Paxton's staff.
As far as a curious case of the allegedly drunken Texan,
Phelan's office has repeatedly declined to comment. But basically, Texas Republican leadership is fighting and it's no holds barred. Now sober. Your mom's like, where are you?
I'm at Harris's house. It just is not inspiring confidence. However, I would like to ask,
could they be worse lawmakers drunk? Maybe this is good for everybody. I don't know. Is an extremely like his entire political career has been characterized by playing dodgeball with seemingly credible accusations of him kind of being a dirty politician.
Right. And so my reaction is, I guess, kind of like on one hand, let them fight.
The Texas legislature isn't up to any good this session or most sessions, but especially this session.
On the other hand, I kind of think maybe Ken Paxton did something bad.
And totally maybe he wouldn't have spoken out if they weren't investigating him for doing bad things.
There is absolutely no way that this is their limit where it's like, oh, he had a couple of drinks.
We don't stand for this. So Ken Paxton is 100 percent done something bad. You have to take shots before you
go into the chamber at the Texas legislature. If I had to deal with these people all day,
I would also be drunk. There may be an actual problem here, in which case I hope he gets help.
However, everybody involved in the story is still in, I'm not going to say irredeemable
because they could do some work on themselves, but pretty close to irredeemable asshole. So yeah, you know, a lot of bad people in
an embarrassing fight. Fine by me. Keep it up. Keep it up. Love when shitty people argue with
each other. My favorite activity. Totally. And that was no context, bad vibes. No context, bad vibes.
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I should say I should have overruled.
Gavel.
Gavel. It's like I'm drunk, but I have a gavel so nobody can tell.
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