What A Day - Reporting On The Crisis In India with Niha Masih
Episode Date: May 12, 2021The coronavirus crisis in India continues to escalate, with the World Health Organization warning of a potentially more transmissible variant and the country reporting over 240,000 deaths. To get a be...tter sense of the situation on the ground, we spoke with Niha Masih. She's a Washington Post reporter in New Delhi.And in headlines: Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip kill over 33 Palestinians, missile launches by Hamas kill two in Israel, and the NRA's bankruptcy filing is thrown out by a federal judge. Plus, Erin Ryan fills in for Akilah Hughes.Show Notes:Follow Washington Post reporter Niha Masih's coverage on the pandemic in India – https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/niha-masih/For a transcript of this show, please visit crooked.com/whataday.
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It's Wednesday, May 12th.
I'm Erin Ryan, in for Akilah Hughes.
And I'm Gideon Resnick, and this is What The Day, where we're admitting to taking horse
drugs to get ahead in podcasting.
You know what, before people judge us, I think that they should consider just how hard podcasting
can be on your joints.
Yeah, I've gone arthritic over the last two years.
On today's show, a firsthand view of the devastation caused by the pandemic in India.
It's not always that journalists run out of words, but this is one of those situations,
unfortunately.
That's Neha Massey, a Washington Post reporter in New Delhi.
She's been covering the crisis there,
which, hard to believe, continues to get worse and worse.
Yeah, I mean, there have been recent reports of bodies washing up on the banks of the Ganges,
concerns about the spread of COVID-19
beyond major, more resourced metropolitan areas,
which already struggled,
and the World Health Organization raising alarm about a potentially more transmissible variant.
The country has reported over 240,000 deaths,
and most experts unanimously say that that is a vast undercount.
It's really, really tragic to see yet another government of yet another country
just be caught on its heels like this.
Yeah, it really is.
So I had a one-on-one conversation with Masi earlier,
so she could better describe the situation on the ground.
I have spent some time outside a hospital,
and I've seen people coming in ambulances,
on two wheelers, in auto rickshaws,
helpless, without being able to find a bed. The hospitals are full, and they
unfortunately have to turn people back. And some of these people are often very critical. And if
they don't get help soon, they probably end up dying. So that kind of scene I have personally
not seen before, ever, including in the first wave. There were
some hospital bed shortages in the first wave in certain places, but it was never this dire.
There are burial grounds and cremation grounds that are running chock-a-block.
In some burial grounds, they've had to dig up graves that have not fully decomposed to accommodate incoming dead bodies that are not stopping.
Crematoriums who run out of wood because of the sheer numbers.
In the last two days, we've seen videos of corpses floating in rivers in North India,
which are suspected to be COVID positive bodies. It's not clear where and when they were dumped in
rivers. So honestly, I don't know if words like nightmare or hell are adequate to sum up the
situation. But one word that I see a lot of people using is helplessness.
Yeah, it's really tough to watch another country become the epicenter of the pandemic because,
you know, Gideon, remember a year ago, the U.S. was the global epicenter and we were hearing people
use words like nightmare and we were hearing about hospitals running out of beds. And it's just
terrible to see another place going through that.
And there have been a lot of different factors playing into why and how India's surge has been so devastating.
Missy reported on one of those, a major Hindu religious festival last month.
What did she have to say about that?
I mean, she said for one thing that the government was called upon to actually cancel the event due to the fear of spread.
So, Kong Mela, as it's called, is a major religious festival for Hindus, and it takes place in several different locations. The participants include, you know, regular devotees,
but also tens of thousands of priests who come from, you know, various parts of the country.
And one of the main rituals of this is taking a dip in a holy river, and there are certain dates
that are considered auspicious. So So if you see, it has all
the makings of a super spreader event, a very, very large congregation of people, millions,
impossible to enforce COVID protocols here, and people taking a dip in a particular spot.
And the main events were held in April, which is when the second wave was devastating parts of the country.
The government was called upon to cancel the event by experts and doctors and opposition parties, but they chose not to.
It was only on April 17th, after two of the main rituals had concluded that the prime minister appealed to devotees to say that now we should observe the rest of the festival in a symbolic manner.
But that was too late. What we don't know is how many people got infected and how much the virus
spread. Right. And Masih added that an epidemiologist told her that because of this event,
different variants of the virus were able to actually jump geographies after those worshipers
went back home. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of what we were hearing in the very early days of the pandemic in Italy when they were shutting down
different regions and people were taking trains to get out before the lockdowns. And it reminds
me of last summer in the States, the Sturgis rally was held despite all advice from public
health experts. And it feels like nobody is learning any lessons that
should be governing how people behave around this. Masih also had to deal with COVID herself
recently. Yeah, that's right. And when she told me about her experience, it was pretty easy to
see how this moment India is going through right now is much different compared to last year.
Sure. As journalists, of course, I always hate to be the story,
especially at a moment like this, when there is so much, you know, so much worse happening to
people. I don't, yeah, I don't have to, you know, my own case was mild, thankfully, and I recovered in home isolation without having to need hospitalization or require anything that I needed to be running around for.
But yes, I must say that, for instance, getting a test organized when I first felt symptoms was not as easy as it was, you know, last year. I've tested many times
previously and it was always, you know, very smooth and I would get a result in like four
hours. This time I had to ask a friend to help me find the test as many private labs were not,
you know, doing testing. So testing took some time.
The result came two days later,
which is also a period where you wonder,
should I be medicating?
Should I wait for the result to come?
Again, I was lucky and privileged to have access to doctors on call.
But yes, I think just sort of the feeling of not knowing whether you may need help
and whether you will get that help is a fear that a lot of people who contract COVID right now are
feeling. And I think I did too. And in another great example of leaders not learning their lesson from what other countries have gone through, recently there have been calls for another national lockdown, but political leadership doesn't seem like they're going to do that.
Yeah, I mean, as of now, no. Masih told me that it has been left to state governments, and two dozen or so have their own lockdowns at this point. And then part of the reason for the resistance to another national lockdown, as Missy described it, is actually how the last one went.
India went in for a very hard and strict lockdown at the end of March when it barely had a few
hundred cases. While it did help in stopping the spread of the virus and gave time to, you know,
the administration to ramp up health infrastructure, the consequences for the economy were devastating.
It was announced at a four-hour warning, leaving tens of millions of migrant workers stranded in cities without any food, without any income, or a way to get back home. And that really sort of,
you know, set off a humanitarian crisis, which, which the effects of which we still feel people were walking
thousands of miles to reach their villages very far away. And, and even after the lockdown was
lifted, it took a very long time for the economy to sort of, you know, fully reopen. And it,
it hadn't until, and then of course, the second wave came.
So that's one of the reasons why the government has been hesitant.
Well, we'll continue to follow this story and we can link to Masi's reporting so you can read all of her work.
But that is the latest for now. It's Wednesday, WOD Squad.
And for today's temp check, we are discussing two corporate White House vaccine collaborations that were announced yesterday.
First, Biden announced that Lyft and Uber will offer free rides to vaccination sites.
There are some important terms and conditions there.
And secondly, McDonald's has announced it'll pitch in by adding Department of Health approved.
We can do this branding to its coffee cups and delivery orders.
The cups and labels will also direct customers to vaccines.gov to learn how to get appointments.
So, Erin, how are you evaluating this good corporate citizenship? Well, Gideon, not since Starbucks' incredible get your annual papachino
and Hardee's check your prostator tots promotion
has a corporation done so much to further the cause of public health.
You know, I think the only way that McDonald's could have gone further
and had more of an impact with this brave display of cup messaging
is if they'd gone as far as Dairy Queen did
when they did their colonoscopy awareness Sundays.
Wow. Wow.
These are all dates I remember fondly and promotions I remember fondly.
And you're right.
You know know those companies
led the way here and it's time for the golden arches to maybe go a step further the thing that
i found uh really funny in terms of those terms and conditions is apparently the lift statement
on this includes a what it is is it includes a code for $15 off a ride wait yes $15 $15 which listen
if this helps one person get a vaccine I think the job has been done but the idea that this was
sort of you know free carte blanche rides to vaccination sites, when really it's Lyft being like,
here is a code to go five city blocks,
is pretty funny and pretty telling about, you know,
the car companies we all know and love.
So you're suggesting that Uber and Lyft are getting more value out of this wave of good PR of free, quote unquote,
rides to vaccine sites,
than the people actually taking the rides are getting in value from them.
I might be,
I might,
I might be implying I could be implying something of the sort,
but just like that,
we have checked our temps.
Stay safe.
Get your shot.
No matter how you do it.
That's just the best way to do it is getting it.
And we'll be back after some ads.
Let's wrap up with some headlines.
Headlines. Israel continued to conduct airstrikes on the Gaza Strip yesterday,
which, as we went to record last night, had killed at least 33 Palestinians, including children.
These attacks came as retaliation against rockets launched by the Palestinian militant group Hamas
towards Tel Aviv in Israel, which killed two people.
Earlier this week, Hamas gave Israel an ultimatum
to withdraw its security forces in Jerusalem after days of police violence at the Al-Aqsa
Mosque compound. As a recording, UN officials say over 1,000 Palestinians have been injured
by Israeli forces, and riot police continue to storm the mosque for a third consecutive day.
Several international groups have condemned Israel for its indiscriminate airstrikes and
violence against Palestinians,
while the White House released a statement yesterday describing Biden's, quote, unwavering support for Israel's security. I feel like that is an issue where many progressives diverge from the Biden White House statement.
To say the least.
Yes. We are now seeing the impact of last week's ransomware attack that shut down the colonial pipeline, which moves roughly 45 percent of the East Coast's fuel.
A growing number of gas stations in Virginia, Florida and other states are reporting dry pumps and long lines.
All right. Gasoline is the new toilet paper. You heard it here first.
Georgia has also joined Virginia and North Carolina in declaring a state of emergency over potential gas shortages. According to Gas Buddy, an app that tracks fuel prices and demands and that I just learned existed
in reading this copy, I had no idea there was a demand for it. But hey, people must be using it.
As of yesterday afternoon, 8.5% of gas stations in North Carolina and 7.7% in Virginia had no gas.
Federal officials are considering additional ways to ease fuel delivery across the East Coast
and are urging Americans not to hoard gas because it will exacerbate supply shortages.
Also, do not hoard gas.
No.
That stuff is very, very explodable.
And normal people shouldn't just have it around.
Agreed.
That's just, that's, that's not, don't do it, guys.
This incident illustrates just how
vulnerable the country's infrastructure is to ransomware attacks from cyber gangs.
We can only imagine look like much less good looking versions of Neo and his friends from
the matrix. Yes. Where is Morpheus? Uh, we need to see him send thoughts and prayers to the
national rifle association whose bankruptcy filing was thrown out yesterday, potentially dooming the country's biggest fan club for AR-15s.
The NRA is facing a legal challenge from New York's Attorney General Letitia James, who seeks to shut it down for fraud and self-dealing.
Earlier this year, the NRA filed for bankruptcy as part of a scheme to move its headquarters from New York to Texas and evade the AG's lawsuit.
A federal judge has now declared that this filing was in bad faith.
The end result of the bankruptcy proceedings then was just to cost the NRA millions of dollars in legal fees
and force it to go public with even more info
about how its executives eat all of its money.
Shouts to NRA chief Wayne LaPierre,
who we now know decided to class up the standard gun guy outfit
of jeans and military fatigues
by once spending $300,000 on Italian suits
in one shopping trip to Beverly Hills.
Wayne, you freaking dog.
He also charged the company for private jet travel
and lived for extended periods on a 108-foot yacht
in the Bahamas lent by a top NRA donor,
truly, truly fighting the elites
by becoming the worst version of them.
The NRA will likely appeal yesterday's ruling, but still, this does not bode well for their future.
I am feeling really, really bad tonight for all of the men who may have to find a new way to
overcompensate and women. Women in the NRA are also overcompensating in a way that endangers
the lives of everyone around them. I do not feel sorry for them.
Good riddance.
And I hope that we find out more embarrassing shit about them as this legal battle goes
on, because what we've learned so far is pretty, pretty embarrassing.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really good stuff.
Bewildered Texans who are currently yelling for help in the meat aisle at Kroger.
We have good news.
I'd imagine there, I don't know how many of them there are. I've never really spent time in Texas, but for those of you who are, state lawmakers in the
house have approved a bill that would prohibit plant-based products from using the terms meat,
beef, pork, or poultry on their labeling. This means Beyond Meat would have to rebrand as
Not Beyond Plant. The bill does consider the term burger to be fair game, but only if it's accompanied
by terms like meatless or made from plants on the product's packaging. Honestly, this all just
illustrates how far back the U.S. is on soy literacy. Unsurprisingly, the bill is backed
by livestock companies and is opposed by groups that advocate for vegetarian meat alternatives.
The bill still has to pass Texas's state Senate. If it does, it'll likely be challenged by
plant-based food producers on First
Amendment grounds. Texas, what the fuck
are you doing? Do you not have other
problems? Why
do you refuse to
govern? Do governing,
guys. This is not
governing. This is like
if your house was
burning down and you were like, there's
a hose over there that I could use to put the fire out, but instead I'm going to sit here and paint
my toenails. Come on guys. This is ridiculous. A lot of people in the Texas house have painted
nails at this point, we think. And those are the headlines. One more thing before we go on the latest episode of Pod
Save the World, Tommy and Ben talk about the escalating violence in Israel and Gaza with
foreign policy analyst Rula Jibril. They talk about the context for the latest outbreak of
fighting in Israel and Palestine and how we should be thinking about asymmetries of power.
That's on the new episode of Pod Save the World out today.
And that is all for today.
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Yeah, you could end up with a novelty cup that you can keep for generations.
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