What A Day - Supreme Court Rules Against Texas' Border Razor Wire
Episode Date: January 23, 2024The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that the Biden administration has the authority to remove parts of a barbed wire barrier erected by Texas officials at the U.S.-Mexico border. The high court ruled fo...r Biden in a 5-4 decision, with Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett siding with the three liberal justices.More than 300 L.A. Times journalists walked off their jobs last Friday for a one-day strike to protest potential layoffs. Then on Monday, a group of ten California lawmakers said in a letter that they’re concerned about how possible cuts might impact “the availability of essential news and the strength of our democracy at large.”And in headlines: New Hampshire officials are investigating robocalls that used AI to impersonate President Joe Biden, a Georgia judge unsealed documents in a divorce case that involves prosecutors in the election interference case against Donald Trump, and we learn about the science behind heartbreak.Show Notes:LA Times: “Science can explain a broken heart. Could science help heal mine?” – http://tinyurl.com/yvjttlskWhat A Day – YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@whatadaypodcastFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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it's tuesday january 23rd i'm josie duffy rice and i'm treyval anderson and this is what a day
the pod that wants the kids to know you don't need mirrors to enjoy tiktok yeah a north carolina
school removed bathroom mirrors last week to cut down on kids leaving class to film tiktoks and it
apparently worked what happened to just a tripod or something?
The youth are fancier than us, or maybe less fancy.
On today's show, we talk about the union fight by LA Times journalists to keep their reporting
strong. Plus, Josie puts on her lab coat to learn all about the science of heartbreak.
But first, on Monday, the Supreme Court ruled that the Biden administration has the authority
to remove parts of a barbed wire barrier erected by Texas state officials.
The ruling is a victory for Biden.
Wild listeners have heard us report about this several times,
so you know how contingent it's been between the administration and Texas recently.
Yeah, and this specific battle has gone on for a while now.
Can you recap how exactly we got here?
Well, in just the past two years, Greg Abbott has spent billions of dollars building infrastructure at the border to deter migrants.
All of this infrastructure is cruel.
Much of it pushes the limits of what states are really permitted to do.
I mean, we heard just last week that Texas officials blocked federal agents
from saving the lives of a woman and her children
as they drowned in the Rio Grande.
So that is unfathomably awful.
They've also been caught refusing
to allow migrants water in over 100 degree weather,
installing barbed wire without permission
on private property,
putting barbed wire around public lakes and rivers.
I mean, they're just like, Texas is out of control.
And we've known they've been out of control, we should say, for a little minute.
But confirmation on top of confirmation.
Absolutely.
This particular dispute started last October when Texas officials installed what is known
as concertina wire along parts of the border.
If you don't know what concertina wire is, it's basically like barbed wire on steroids.
It's like the big coiled wires that you'll see at prison sometimes.
It's almost like a guarantee that anyone who tries to get past that kind of wire is going to be severely, severely injured.
So the Biden administration removed the wire, claiming they had the authority to do so.
But Ken Paxton, Texas' terrible attorney general, sued the Biden administration in October, claiming that they were, quote, destroying state property, among other things.
But I know a few weeks ago, a decision came down from the appellate court on this, right?
Yeah. So just last month, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled for Texas, actually.
That was not ideal.
And the Biden administration filed an emergency application to the Supreme Court,
basically asking for an expedited decision. And frankly, many people thought the Supreme Court would roll for Texas, given what the Supreme Court is like these days. I mean,
it's not great over there. But the court actually ruled for Biden in a 5-4 decision yesterday with
Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett siding with the three liberal justices.
Now, they didn't explain their decision, which they typically don't with emergency matters,
but it's a welcome decision on their part.
I mean, it's not going to stop Texas from all of their cruelty,
but it is a relief that the court believes that there are some limits to what Governor Abbott can do.
Yes, and enforcing them.
Right.
Finally.
Now on to a story about the importance of supporting local journalism.
This one comes out of my neck of the woods,
and it's about the state of the Los Angeles Times.
A group of 10 California lawmakers said in a letter yesterday
that they're concerned about how potential layoffs at the newspaper
might impact, quote,
the availability of essential news and the strength
of our democracy at large. This comes after more than 300 LA Times journalists walked off their job
last Friday for a one-day strike protesting these cuts, the first work stoppage in the paper's 143 three-year history. I love that they're taking a stand. You know, we're talking about the biggest
county in America, one of the most important papers in the country. So this is a very,
very big deal. Catch us up here. What's going on? How did we get here?
Tell us more.
Yeah, so I guess I should first give a disclaimer, which is that I started my career at the LA
Times.
I was also part of the early group that began the union there.
So I definitely, like you, am super proud of them for taking such a necessary stand
like this.
But here's the situation.
Management announced plans last week
to lay off what the union calls a quote-unquote significant number of people. The union says the
Times also wants them to gut seniority protections that are already in their contract so that the
company has greater leeway on who they can lay off. Now, the union hasn't been able to say the
actual number of jobs that'll be on the chopping
block, and that's because the Times has been engaging in off-the-record negotiations. The
union says the Times also wants them to gut seniority protections that are in their contract
so that the company has greater leeway on who they can lay off. Now, the union hasn't been able to
say the actual number of jobs that will be on the chopping block.
And that's because the Times has been engaging in off the record negotiations.
But the guild's chair called the collective changes that they feel they're being pressured to accept, quote, obscene and unsustainable.
And it's important to note that like what we're talking about here is just the latest cuts that the paper is trying to make.
It's not the only ones.
Yeah, that's some very important context, Josie. The last round of layoffs at the LA Times was back in June of 2023. They cut 74 jobs. It was a 13% reduction. But that
was just six months ago. And now they need to do layoffs again. And then some other context. Last week, the LA Times' top editor, Kevin Merida,
stepped down. And since he stepped down, two other managing editors, two of the four that they had,
have also resigned. These departures reportedly were already in the works before Kevin stepped
down, right? But what all of this means for the journalists working in that newsroom
is that they've got a bit of a shit show on their hands. And mind you, right, there's still a daily
newspaper and website that is getting produced. These editors at Step Down are some of the most
respected editors in the field, right? I mean, it's a big loss. And it's clear the LA Times has
a situation on their hand. We've spoken on the show before
about the decline of newspapers due in part to declining ad sales and people not really
subscribing to publications anymore. And also, you know, newspapers have just been gutted by
big finance, basically hedge funds and private equity who have taken them up and chopped them
up and sold them for parts. But I'm wondering, like, is that what's happening at the LA Times? Is it something else? What's the deal there? As you said, Josie, like the state of
journalism has been not great for a little minute. 43,000 newspaper journalists have lost their jobs
since 2005, mostly at daily publications. And then last year in 2023, an average of 2.5 newspapers closed every single week.
That's compared to an average of two newspapers closing a week in 2022.
So we can see that that decline is accelerating.
Luckily, we're not quite at the turn the lights off point with the LA Times quite yet.
But the reality is that the billionaire owner of the paper, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shong and his
family, they bought it in 2018. They reportedly feel like they've been pumping too much money
into the paper without seeing the necessary growth, either in audience or ad dollars. And
that's despite the very impactful, even necessary Pulitzer Prize winning work, right, that's been
coming out of this newsroom over the
last few years. So it's important to note that these economic realities, they are definitely
something that the union even recognizes as partially motivating the need for layoffs,
but the union isn't pushing back on that, right? They're specifically pushing back on
how the layoffs will happen. Their demands include management publicly saying
a clear headcount or financial reduction amount,
and the union also wants the company to offer buyouts
before these layoffs,
which is something already in their actual contract.
We, of course, will keep y'all posted
on what comes of this story,
but as a journalist,
as someone who believes in the importance of information,
of accountability, of the archiving that results from the work of reporters in other news media, if you agree, you have to do something about it, okay?
Subscribe to your local news outlets, support and share the work of actual journalists.
I don't know, perhaps read beyond the headline and don't rely only on TikTok or
Instagram for your news updates. It's an election year too. And we've been talking about that a lot.
Supporting the free press is a major part of democracy, right? Like this is how you ensure
a strong democracy as a strong free press. And media gets a lot of complaints, but people are
going to miss it when it's gone. And I think there's a real effort to make sure we don't get there.
So I've been telling people this year, every dollar you give to a candidate, give a dollar to a news outlet.
Because if you give, you know, the LA Times $150 million, they will not drop out after Iowa.
They will last pass the election.
Can confirm.
Can confirm.
The money that you donate to candidates, you should be donating equal that amount, if not
more, to media.
Absolutely.
And that is the latest for now.
Let's get to some headlines.
Headlines.
New Hampshire officials are investigating reports of robocalls that used artificial intelligence to impersonate President Joe Biden and discourage voters from voting in today's
primary. Take a listen to the recording obtained by NBC
News. enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again.
Your vote makes a difference in November, not just Tuesday.
That's so eerie and very creepy and upsetting.
Yikes. The Attorney General's office is investigating the matter,
and it said in a statement that the messages appear to be a, quote,
unlawful attempt to disrupt the New Hampshire presidential primary election
and to suppress New Hampshire voters.
And the statement went on to say that voters should disregard the message entirely and stress that voting in today's primary does not preclude voters from casting their ballot
in the general election in November. The attorney general's office started investigating the robocalls
after receiving a complaint from Kathy Sullivan, a former state Democratic party chair who helps
run a super PAC urging voters to write in Biden's name in the primary.
The calls show that they came from her personal cell.
But in a statement, she said, quote, it is outright election interference and clearly an attempt to harass me and other New Hampshire voters who are planning to write in Joe Biden on Tuesday.
Very unnerving.
Yeah, this is not great. And also probably just the beginning, right, of these altered messages, AI generated stuff, the deep fakes, etc, etc, etc, that. On Monday, a Georgia judge unsealed the divorce case of Nathan Wade,
one of the lawyers that Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis hired to manage her election interference case
against former President Donald Trump and his allies.
But the judge declined to force Willis to testify.
You'll remember that we talked about the drama with Willis and Wade on the show last week. Michael Roman, one of Trump's lawyers indicted by Willis,
alleged that she was in a romantic relationship with Wade
and that she violated ethics rules by assigning Wade to the case against the former president.
Roman provided no proof other than some credit card statements
showing that Wade bought airline tickets for himself and Willis on two occasions.
But the unsealing of the divorce case could impact Willis' efforts to hold Trump and his allies accountable
for trying to overturn the state's 2020 presidential election results.
A hearing for the misconduct claims against Willis is scheduled for next month.
Switching gears now, Dexter Scott King, son of Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King,
died yesterday at his home in Malibu after a battle with prostate cancer.
He was 62.
Leah Weber King, his wife, said in a statement that he died, quote, peacefully in his sleep.
He was the chairman of the King Center for Nonviolent Social Change in Atlanta, an institution that his mother established in 1968.
He was also the president of the King estate. Dexter King was the third of the King's
children and was just seven years old when his father was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee
on April 4th, 1968. He is survived by his wife, his older brother, Martin Luther King III,
and younger sister, Reverend Bernice King. In a statement, his older brother said, quote,
the sudden shock is devastating. It is hard to have the right words at a moment like this.
We ask for your prayers at this time for the entire King family. This week marks the one-year anniversary of the Monterey Park and
Half Moon Bay mass shootings, two tragedies that devastated two predominantly Asian American
communities in California. On January 21st last year, a gunman opened fire at a Lunar New Year
celebration in Monterey Park, killing 11 people, including himself.
And just days later, on January 23rd, a gunman killed seven farmers in Half Moon Bay, most of whom were of Chinese descent.
Hundreds of residents gathered in both cities to remember the loved ones they lost to gun violence.
President Biden released a statement on Monday to honor the victims and survivors of the shootings and reemphasize the need for gun control. He said, quote, in mere moments,
friends and families gathering together in joy and hope were devastated by a senseless,
horrific mass shooting. Jill and I continue to pray for the families of the victims
and many others traumatized by these attacks. And finally, on the 51st anniversary of Roe v. Wade,
Vice President Kamala Harris kicked off her Fight for Reproductive Freedoms tour yesterday in Wisconsin.
That's the nationwide tour in which the vice president will travel across the country in support of abortion rights.
Take a listen to what she had to say during her speech in the key battleground state on Monday.
In America, freedom is not to be given.
It is not to be bestowed.
It is ours by right.
By right.
And that includes the freedom to make decisions about one's own body,
not the government telling you what to do. Up next on the tour, President Biden,
Vice President Harris and their spouses will be in Virginia today for another rally for abortion
rights. Meanwhile, back in Washington, President Biden met with his Reproductive Rights Task Force
yesterday, where they talked about new steps to protect reproductive health care access.
Also on Monday, the administration announced a new team
that will be dedicated to supporting hospitals in complying with its interpretation of the Emergency
Medical Treatment and Labor Act. That's the law that requires hospitals to provide necessary
treatment, including abortions, if a patient is at risk of dying. Wouldn't think you would need
a law like that, but that's where we are in this here america apparently we do and those are the
headlines we'll be back after some ads with another installment of josie versus science
this time we talk about how the science of heartbreak is very very real
it's tuesday wad squad and today we're going to try a little experiment with another installment of Josie vs. Science.
Oh boy.
All right, so let's put on our lab coats, wear some eye protection, and get down to business, Josie.
We all know that science is a process, and each new failure and discovery brings us all closer to the truth.
But Josie, we know that for some reason you're not here for any of that.
You know, science, it's not for me.
I'm glad someone's out there doing science.
I'm just not a, I don't want to be the science person.
Well, Josie, I have a story for you this week that I think you'll fall in love with.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm ready.
Are you buckled in?
I'm buckled in. So I was combing
through the LA Times yesterday and you know, when they aren't protesting for better pay and other
things, I saw that one staffer had a story diving into the science behind heartbreak. Okay. It is
very, very real. Josie, I have to ask you when you've had your heart broken before, did you ever feel it like physically, like beyond the emotions itself?
Oh, totally.
Oh, good.
Still mad at you, Steven Johnson from seventh grade.
Breathing my heart.
Had me down and out for like a week.
Well, so then you will understand this, okay, from personal experience. In this article, journalist Todd
Martins, he talked about a breakup of his own, and he interviewed a bunch of experts to figure out
why he felt the way he did. And he said that psychology professor David Spara from the
University of Arizona pointed to a study that showed dwelling on a breakup can affect your body.
It causes a stress response where some of your symptoms include lack of sleep,
increased blood pressure, and even a disruption to how the heart rate is regulated.
Okay.
Yes, this makes sense.
So far, I'm with you.
It makes sense.
Yes, stay there.
Okay, I'm here.
Martins also chatted with biological anthropologist Helen Fisher.
In 2010, she penned a study that likened heartbreak to addiction.
Wow.
Okay.
When you're in love, your brain gets hits of dopamine that makes you feel good.
Right.
But when you're going through heartbreak, your body goes through withdrawal since you're not getting the same amount of chemicals anymore.
So she told him, quote, just because you've been dumped, you're still in love, right?
At least you still feel like you're still in love.
And now you're processing, right, the withdrawal of the dopamine.
Right.
But then he also got a prescription to combat heartbreak from Florence Williams,
author of Heartbreak,
A Personal and Scientific Journey. And she told him that you need the three C's in your life,
calm, connection, and creativity. To get through it. To get through it. Do you buy it? Does it
feel, what are you thinking? It sounds right, you know, when you're in it.
But I buy this.
I buy this.
Yeah.
It's just saying that, you know, when we all go through heartbreak, you break up with, you know, your little girlfriend, your be a little bit more perhaps intentional as we move through the process of transitioning from one relationship to no relationship, perhaps.
Yeah.
And to recognize, like, this is actually a scientific real thing happening that lots of people go through and that you can manage, that you can get through.
And that you're not being dramatic, right?
When you are in your depressive state.
Some of y'all might be being a little dramatic.
Well.
You might still be dramatic.
You might be being dramatic, but we support you.
And we will tell everybody it is science.
Just text us, call us, tweet us.
It is always science.
We will tell your friends that this is scientific.
That you are not being dramatic.
Even though deep down we know you're being a little dramatic.
Potentially, Chelsea.
Potentially.
Potentially.
I mean, I support a little drama.
I mean, I'm not mad at it.
Let's go.
Well, we will let you all make your own decisions, okay?
We're going to link to the LA Times story in our show notes.
But, Chelsea, guess what?
You survived another bout with science. Look at
that. This is my favorite bout with science so far. So maybe we're on the upswing. Maybe 2024
is my science year. We can only hope, okay? We can only hope.
Two more things before we go.
Major Pod Save America schedule update.
John, Lovett, Tommy, and Dan are bumping up their episodes to three days a week
with episodes dropping Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
A tripod, you could call it.
You know, just an idea.
I think they are trying to get on our level.
We still have five a week.
Good luck, guys.
We're rooting for you.
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I'm Josie Duffy Rice.
And say no to Robo Brandon.
Yeah, I really hate the Robo calls.
I just have to say that again.
Because it sounds just like him.
That's really unnerving.
It just makes you not know if what you're hearing is real.
Although we do know that if it sounds like Trump's voice, he probably said it.
Because I'm Andrew Smythe.
Probably. You're probably right
about that one. It was probably him.
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