What A Day - Texas Mourns The Children Killed At Robb Elementary School

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

Officials have not confirmed all the identities of the 21 victims – nearly all children – of the Robb Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, Texas. However some family members have started to iden...tify them publicly. Their deaths have sparked widespread outrage over Republicans’ staunch opposition to gun control measures. Nicole Golden, executive director of Texas Gun Sense, joins us to discuss her work advocating for gun reform in her state.And in headlines: Trump-backed candidates saw mixed results during Tuesday’s primary elections, State Farm Insurance dropped its support for the GenderCool Project, and the British government released an official report about Partygate.Show Notes:KSAT: “Remembering the victims of the Uvalde elementary school shooting” – https://bit.ly/3MOvdSVTexas Gun Sense – https://www.txgunsense.org/The Texas Tribune: “Texas has had eight mass shootings in the past 13 years, while lawmakers have steadily loosened restrictions on carrying firearms” – https://bit.ly/3NDcQRaNew York Times: “How to Help Victims of the Uvalde School Shooting” – https://nyti.ms/3LNCnFKFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/whataday/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's thursday may 26th i'm gideon resnick and i'm priyanka arabindi and this is what a day where we're calling on righteously angry basketball coaches to switch jobs with senators until further notice yeah steve kerr if you would not mind taking the wheel for a second i think it is for the best yeah we need 60 of the angriest basketball coaches who are sane to get to Washington ASAP. On today's show, the outcome of Tuesday's primary races in Georgia, Arkansas, and Texas, plus a long-awaited report on Partygate and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson. But first, we wanted to spend some more time on the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas. On Tuesday, an 18-year-old gunman killed at least 19 students and two teachers inside of a single classroom using an AR-15 style rifle.
Starting point is 00:00:56 In addition to what we reported yesterday as the story was developing, here is a little more of what we know now. This happened during the school day at around 11.30 a.m. local time, but families waited into the night for details about their children. Some even had to submit DNA samples to help identify the remains. While officials haven't confirmed the identities of the victims,
Starting point is 00:01:17 some family members have started to identify them publicly. Here are those who we know so far. Lucia Garcia was eight years old. He is the youngest victim to be identified so far. His grandfather shared that he was a sweet little boy who loved to play football. Umari Jo Garza was 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:01:34 She was reportedly shot as she tried to call 911. She had just been awarded an honor roll certificate earlier that day. Maite Yuliana was another fourth grader who was also celebrated as an honor roll student earlier on day. My T. Juliana was another fourth grader who was also celebrated as an honor roll student earlier on Tuesday. Javier Lopez, age 10, saw his mother for the last time during that same awards ceremony.
Starting point is 00:01:53 He was a bubbly kid who loved to dance with his brothers and his mom. Alexandria Ania Rubio was also recognized at the ceremony for making the honor roll and receiving the Good Citizen Award. She posed with her parents for a photo there and they told her they'd pick her up after school. Alithia Ramirez was 10 years old. She loved to draw and wanted to be an artist when she grew up. Texas Democratic gubernatorial candidate Beto O'Rourke visited her home yesterday
Starting point is 00:02:19 and said that the balloons from her 10th birthday were still up. Rogelio Torres was 10 years old. His mother described him as a, quote, very smart and loving child. Eliana Cruz Torres was also 10 years old. She was excited and nervous for her very last softball game of the season later that day. Jaila Nicole Silguero was a 10-year-old student
Starting point is 00:02:40 at Robb Elementary. She was killed alongside her 10-year-old cousin, Jace Carmelo Luevanos. Jacqueline Cazares was 10 years old. She was killed alongside her cousin, Annabelle Rodriguez, who was also 10. According to Annabelle's family, she was incredibly smart and loved to go to school. We still don't have the details on everybody, but other victims included Nevaeh Brajo, McKenna Elrod, age 10, Jose Flores Jr., age 10, Ellie Garcia, age 10, Tess Marie Mata, age 10, and Miranda Mathis, age 11. The two teachers killed were Erma Garcia and Eva Mireles. Garcia was a fourth grade teacher at Robb and a mother of four.
Starting point is 00:03:21 She was in her 23rd year of teaching. Mireles was also a fourth grade teacher with one daughter at Yeah, I never want to have to read the name of a child who is not with us anymore ever again in my life. Yeah, me either. In the time since, we've also learned more about the shooter and the events leading up to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary. So tell us a little more about that. Yeah. Officials say that they're still looking for answers about the gunman's motive. But according to Texas Governor Greg Abbott, about 30 minutes before arriving at the school, the gunman posted on Facebook that he was going to shoot his grandmother. He did so and then posted to Facebook that he had. She survived and was able to get help from neighbors who called
Starting point is 00:04:15 the police. She's currently being hospitalized. The gunman's final post read, quote, I'm going to shoot an elementary school. This was about 15 minutes before he arrived at the school's campus. According to Facebook, these had been private messages rather than public posts. These also mirror text messages that he reportedly sent to a girl in Germany who he met online. She later shared them with CNN. He indicated that he was annoyed with his grandmother because she took issue with his phone bill. It appears that the AR rifle that he used was purchased legally last week, just days after he turned 18.
Starting point is 00:04:48 He bought two assault rifles along with 375 rounds of ammunition. Just insane that that is something that somebody can do. Yeah. How are officials in Texas responding to this? Not well, in my opinion. They are repeatedly blaming mental health issues for causing this.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Here is Governor Greg Abbott. We have a problem with mental health illness in this community. But even as Abbott kind of shifted the blame here, he said that the shooter, quote, had no known mental health history. Obviously, people like Abbott have plenty of critics pointing at the state's extremely lax gun laws. Beto O'Rourke is one of them. He spoke for a lot of people yesterday when he interrupted Abbott's press conference. Videos show him approaching the stage where Abbott, Ted Cruz, and several other politicians were giving this conference. He accused them of doing nothing. Here is a clip of him speaking afterwards.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It is absolutely wrong. In fact, it is insane. The governor talks about mental health. It is insane that we allow an 18 year old to go in and buy an AR-15. What the hell did we think he was going to do with that? This one is on us. Yeah, I mean, there's not much else to say. So let's talk about those gun laws then on the federal level. Has there been any movement to actually make them stronger in the wake of the mass shootings we've seen in the past couple of weeks. Yeah, one would hope. But federal law currently does not ban the sale of assault rifles. Those were the weapons used both in Uvalde, Texas and in the mass shooting at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, less than two weeks ago. As far as we know, both shooters were just 18 years old and were able to purchase their firearms legally.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Although just days ago, Senator Dianne Feinstein reintroduced her bill to raise the age to be able to buy one of these weapons from 18 to 21. But yesterday morning, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer told colleagues he wouldn't immediately bring gun control measures to the floor for a vote. Those measures would likely fail because of Republicans' staunch opposition. And so instead, he is choosing to wait for Senator Chris Murphy and other Democrats to negotiate a bipartisan measure with a better chance of passing. Yeah, waiting seems to be the operative political tactic. Yeah, not one that has worked in the past. No. So this is obviously a lot to take in. We're going to continue to report more on all this as we know more in the days ahead. But we also wanted to find out how this mass shooting is spurring local gun control activists into action. Earlier, we spoke with Nicole Golden. She is the executive director of
Starting point is 00:07:13 Texas Gun Sense, a nonprofit advocacy group that works to make changes to state gun laws. Golden first got involved in gun reform work following the Sandy Hook shooting nearly 10 years ago. We started by asking her how it feels to see such a similar tragedy occur now. It's a shattering experience. And then, of course, what I'm feeling fails in comparison to what I can only imagine the families of Uvalde are experiencing. But I'm a parent, and so I have to sort of compartmentalize to go on with the work that I do. Right. Yeah. President Biden renewed his call for Congress to, quote, stand up to the gun lobby. Do you expect that this is the straw that will break the camel's back, so to speak? They will finally do something? You know, I really
Starting point is 00:07:54 appreciate the action Biden's taken and his strong words, not only about this, but also allocating federal money to community violence intervention programs. I think with regard to your tipping point question, I once saw a Sandy Hook parent speak and someone asked her a question about why wasn't this a tipping point? And she said, you know, I think that sometimes it's a tipping point, but it just takes a long time to tip. And so just kind of thinking about these things like Sandy Hook and like Uvalde and like so many others, so many I can't name, they do spark public outrage and public support for gun violence prevention measures. Are they the spark for everything we need in this country? No. But you have to really approach this work as a chipping away strategy. And talking about the laws in Texas, Republicans have repeatedly relaxed gun laws in the past several years. We're going to have a link to a story that details that in our show notes. But
Starting point is 00:08:47 for example, last year, Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill that prevents any local or state agency from enforcing any new federal gun laws. So as we're speaking after this, in Texas specifically, how much can we anticipate state lawmakers to change, be more serious about gun control laws? What is the immediate response here? Working at the state level has been a real uphill climb. I'm not going to couch it any other way. It's really been tough. We know that we're on the right side. We know that we're joined by many others. Last legislative session, law enforcement associations came out in opposition to removing licensing and training requirements to carry a handgun in Texas. So that just goes to show you the broad support from so many different voices against that
Starting point is 00:09:29 reckless legislation. But yes, Governor Abbott signed permitless carry. And even with that outpouring of opposition across the state. And while that passed forward, things that we fought for didn't make it out of committee, like closing background check loopholes in the state. So every gun sale requires background check, extreme risk protection orders that allow law enforcement and work through a court system to temporarily remove firearms from someone who's at risk to themselves or others. Yeah, Texas is kind of renowned for being lax with gun laws and gun controls. It's also been the site of multiple mass shootings over the past five years. There was another school shooting back
Starting point is 00:10:05 in 2018 that was rather large. As an activist, how do you kind of sway Texans' opinions on the issue despite that long history of gun culture? You know, I'm real hopeful in working with Texans from all backgrounds because I've seen people step forward and say, you know, what can I do? I'm a gun owner. What can I do? People want to see change. It doesn't matter who they're affiliated with and whether or not they own a gun. If you talk one-on-one with people, they support these things. These are common sense, broad appeal measures. I especially find that when you talk to people about something like safe gun storage, for example, that can really pull people into a conversation and open up doors on the broader issue of gun violence prevention. Our message is moderate. It brings in all voices. And we've had a lot of success meeting people where they
Starting point is 00:10:49 are with that message. Yeah. And beginning tomorrow, the NRA's National Convention is going to start in Houston with a lot of these politicians that we're talking about scheduled to speak there. What do you make of that, especially happening right now? What should people who want these changes to happen in Texas and across the country make of that, especially happening right now? What should people who want these changes to happen in Texas and across the country make of this? The timing is horrendous. And I've had some people across the state already reach out and say, what's going on? What actions are we taking? I understand their outrage. I think it's terrible. The gun lobby has worked for a long time to push gun bills across state legislatures and at a federal level that are harmful and keep really sensible things from passing.
Starting point is 00:11:31 We have often been the opposing voice, sometimes the only one in the room here at our state legislature. But I think we speak for most people, and I don't think that the things that they work toward do. I want to know what is giving you hope at this point in time that there might be substantive change, that this isn't one in a long line of really sad things that will continue to happen and that there will be something tangible to come out of your work. You know, we've had people offering tools from larger organizations. We've had donations coming in. We've had people saying, I'm ready. Like I've had enough. I'm had donations coming in. We've had people saying, I'm ready. I've had
Starting point is 00:12:05 enough. I'm ready to join in. The movement gives me hope. And having seen the movement grow and get stronger over the course of the 10 years I've been around gives me a great deal of hope, even when policy outcomes have been discouraging. Well, thank you again, Nicole. We really appreciate it. Thanks, y'all. That was our conversation with Nicole Golden, the Executive Director of Texas Gun Sense. If you want to get involved, learn more, or donate, please check out txgunsense.org. We will add a link to it in our show notes. We're also going to link to a few more resources
Starting point is 00:12:35 to help people in Uvalde right now. More on all this very soon, but that is the latest we have for now. We'll be back after some ads. Let's wrap up with some headlines. Trump-backed candidates saw mixed results during Tuesday's primary elections in different states. In Georgia, the former president funneled millions into former senator and blue-jean-wearing multimillionaire David Perdue's campaign for governor. But Perdue lost to current Republican Governor Brian Kemp Tuesday night by a whopping 50 percentage points. That's so many.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Not so close. Many points. Representative Jody Heiss, who Trump also endorsed, lost his race for Georgia Secretary of State to Brad Raffensperger, another one of Trump's many enemies. Trump's pick did better in Arkansas. His former press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who we all had hoped would remain in the past forever, won her primary race for governor by a landslide. In Alabama, Governor Kay Ivey avoided a runoff by winning a majority of the vote, beating back eight primary challengers. But some races remained too close to call on Tuesday night. In Texas, the House race between incumbent Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar and progressive challenger Jessica Cisneros is neck and neck, though Cuellar has already declared victory. The Associated Press reported that there
Starting point is 00:14:00 was just a mere 175 vote difference between the two candidates yesterday. And the stakes here are pretty high. Cuellar, a Democrat who got support from the party establishment while being both pro-gun and anti-abortion, is fighting with Cisneros to represent Texas's 28th district, which is majority Latino. And Republicans are determined to flip the seat in November. Yeah, I'm not particularly sure why, given if Cuellar keeps his seat,
Starting point is 00:14:25 that doesn't really seem like they need to be working that hard. An update on the baby formula shortage in the U.S. New reporting shows that while a whistleblower sent a report to the FDA last year warning it about the unsanitary conditions at Michigan's Abbott Infant Formula Factory, the FDA's top food safety official literally missed the memo and didn't see it until four months after it was sent. Allegedly, the memo got lost in the mailroom of all places. By the time it got to Frank Giannis, the deputy commissioner for food policy and response, one infant had already died after consuming Abbott's formula and two others were hospitalized. It was only after another infant died that the factory recalled its formula
Starting point is 00:15:05 and shut down operations. Dr. Robert Califf, chief of the FDA, testified at two House committee hearings yesterday, acknowledging his agency's failure to act quickly to address the issue. And he described the, quote, egregiously unsanitary environment of the Michigan plant. According to him, the roof was leaking
Starting point is 00:15:23 and there were cracks in the factory's equipment where bacteria grew and contaminated its products. Califf also said that he and the Justice Department worked together to fix these issues. And Abbott Nutrition said that it already plans to reopen its Michigan plant next week so that new formula would be available for purchase around June 20th. At least that's coming relatively soon. I mean, slight positive. Who knows if that is slightly reassuring at this point or not? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. One corporation's commitment to compassion and understanding hit a dollar signed shaped snag this week, and they've changed course as a result. State Farm Insurance announced yesterday that they had
Starting point is 00:16:00 dropped their support for an organization called the Gender Cool Project, which helps teach young people about what it means to be transgender and non-binary after conservatives complain. State Farm had partnered with Gender Cool to donate educational books about LGBTQ plus topics to schools and libraries. These efforts were focused in Florida, where the states don't say gay law has threatened any discussion of these topics at all. Pushback from places like the bad faith Twitter account Libbs of tick tock led State Farm to back off. And a statement State Farm said, quote, conversations about gender and identity should happen at home with parents. We no longer support the program allowing for distribution of books in schools. Okay. It's all a reminder to resist the powerful urge to stand insurance companies with horrible jingles. Thankfully, the folks at Gender Cool say the publicity from this whole fiasco
Starting point is 00:16:47 has led to an outpouring of support for their organization from non-state farm entities. Listen, I think this is a chance for Progressive to step up, to earn that name. Take it over. You could do it. Be a hero. Be a legend. It seems like a gimme, right? I mean, yeah, very easy way to win
Starting point is 00:17:05 points. There is a reason UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaks with such a strong accent. Just wait for it. He is wasted. And this is made clear by a series of booze-fueled gatherings held at the Prime Minister's residence in the height of COVID, which were the subject of a long-awaited report released by the British government yesterday, written by a senior civil servant who I'm sure would have rather been doing anything else. Probably, yes. The report on, quote unquote, Partygate found that 83 people, including Johnson, broke lockdown rules at the events, which were held between May 2020 and April 2021.
Starting point is 00:17:41 The ale was flowing at these events, and at times it seems like attendees did manage to beat the COVID odds and party like it was 2019. The report mentions at least one physical fight, at least one person getting sick, and at least one time that someone damaged the Prime Minister's son's swing set. Oh my God. The report places blame for the parties squarely on the shoulders of senior leadership who allowed them to go on and gave junior staffers the sense that the parties were OK. Johnson apologized and took responsibility for the events in Parliament yesterday. But he also gave this explanation for why he thought turning up with his staff during lockdown was basically a good deed. I briefly attended such gatherings to thank them for their service, which I believe is one of the essential duties of leadership
Starting point is 00:18:26 and particularly important when people need to feel that their contributions have been appreciated. I'm sorry, I can't get enough of everybody laughing their asses off. Yeah, immediately. Unbelievable. Incredibly funny. Nice try, I guess. Truly. Much of the criticism that has been directed at johnson stems from his initial denials of the party gate allegations leaders of opposition
Starting point is 00:18:51 parties called for his resignation yesterday a yougov poll indicates that just under 60 percent of uk residents agree that he should step down i hope that in this report there is something a little bit more extensive on the events that impacted this swing set. Yeah, I want to know if it's repaired. Right. Justice for the swing set. Were we pushing people too hard in it? Were we swinging in it too hard ourselves and something happened to the links here?
Starting point is 00:19:19 What happened to the swing set? We need the details. We need the details. I mean, you threw this in here. You thought we weren't going to ask. Please. I have questions. You have questions. We need the details. We need the details. I mean, you threw this in here. You thought we weren't going to ask. Please. I have questions. You have questions.
Starting point is 00:19:29 We all have questions. I will be interviewing the individual who damaged said swing set. With a voice changer. Yes, exactly. Right. They're in witness protection at this point for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Those are the headlines. One more thing before we go. There is something really exciting coming up for Crooked. More than exciting. I'd say it's energizing. Can you guess what it is? We're all being given batteries. Close.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Maybe. Not quite. What I can tell you, though, is that it's delicious. So keep an eye out for something coming to Crooked soon. That is all for today. If you like the show, make show make sure you subscribe leave a review resist the temptation to stand state farm and tell your friends listen and if you're into reading and not just the lurid details of party gate like me what a day is also a nightly newsletter check it out and subscribe at crooked.com slash subscribe i'm priyanka arabindi i'm gide Gideon Resnick. And fix Boris Johnson's son's
Starting point is 00:20:26 swing set. Please. It is in disrepair and a lot of people are talking about it. It will eat away at me and mostly Gideon until the status of this is known. Please. We have to find out. I would like him to speak about it on the floor of parliament, perhaps to some laughs. Right. Boris Johnson getting booed and laughed at once again for talking about his son's damaged swing set. Make it happen. What a Day is a production of Crooked Media. It's recorded and mixed by Bill Lance, Jazzy Marine, and Raven Yamamoto are our associate producers. Our head writer is John Milstein, and our executive producers are Leo Duran and me, Gideon Resnick.
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