What A Day - Texas Mourns The Children Killed At Robb Elementary School
Episode Date: May 26, 2022Officials have not confirmed all the identities of the 21 victims – nearly all children – of the Robb Elementary school shooting in Uvalde, Texas. However some family members have started to iden...tify them publicly. Their deaths have sparked widespread outrage over Republicans’ staunch opposition to gun control measures. Nicole Golden, executive director of Texas Gun Sense, joins us to discuss her work advocating for gun reform in her state.And in headlines: Trump-backed candidates saw mixed results during Tuesday’s primary elections, State Farm Insurance dropped its support for the GenderCool Project, and the British government released an official report about Partygate.Show Notes:KSAT: “Remembering the victims of the Uvalde elementary school shooting” – https://bit.ly/3MOvdSVTexas Gun Sense – https://www.txgunsense.org/The Texas Tribune: “Texas has had eight mass shootings in the past 13 years, while lawmakers have steadily loosened restrictions on carrying firearms” – https://bit.ly/3NDcQRaNew York Times: “How to Help Victims of the Uvalde School Shooting” – https://nyti.ms/3LNCnFKFollow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/whataday/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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it's thursday may 26th i'm gideon resnick and i'm priyanka arabindi and this is what a day
where we're calling on righteously angry basketball coaches to switch jobs with senators until further
notice yeah steve kerr if you would not mind taking the wheel for a second i think it is for
the best yeah we need 60 of the angriest basketball coaches who are sane to
get to Washington ASAP. On today's show, the outcome of Tuesday's primary races in Georgia,
Arkansas, and Texas, plus a long-awaited report on Partygate and British Prime Minister Boris
Johnson. But first, we wanted to spend some more time on the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.
On Tuesday, an 18-year-old gunman killed at least 19 students and two teachers inside of a single classroom using an AR-15 style rifle.
In addition to what we reported yesterday as the story was developing, here is a little more of what we know now.
This happened during the school day at around 11.30 a.m. local time,
but families waited into the night
for details about their children.
Some even had to submit DNA samples
to help identify the remains.
While officials haven't confirmed
the identities of the victims,
some family members have started
to identify them publicly.
Here are those who we know so far.
Lucia Garcia was eight years old.
He is the youngest victim to be identified so far.
His grandfather shared that he was a sweet little boy
who loved to play football.
Umari Jo Garza was 10 years old.
She was reportedly shot as she tried to call 911.
She had just been awarded an honor roll certificate
earlier that day.
Maite Yuliana was another fourth grader
who was also celebrated as an honor roll student earlier on day. My T. Juliana was another fourth grader who was also celebrated as an honor roll student
earlier on Tuesday.
Javier Lopez, age 10, saw his mother for the last time
during that same awards ceremony.
He was a bubbly kid who loved to dance
with his brothers and his mom.
Alexandria Ania Rubio was also recognized
at the ceremony for making the honor roll
and receiving the Good Citizen Award.
She posed with her parents for a photo there and they told her they'd pick her up after school.
Alithia Ramirez was 10 years old. She loved to draw and wanted to be an artist when she grew up.
Texas Democratic gubernatorial candidate Beto O'Rourke visited her home yesterday
and said that the balloons from her 10th birthday were still up.
Rogelio Torres was 10 years old.
His mother described him as a, quote,
very smart and loving child.
Eliana Cruz Torres was also 10 years old.
She was excited and nervous for her very last softball game of the season
later that day.
Jaila Nicole Silguero was a 10-year-old student
at Robb Elementary.
She was killed alongside her 10-year-old cousin,
Jace Carmelo Luevanos. Jacqueline Cazares was 10 years old. She was killed alongside her cousin,
Annabelle Rodriguez, who was also 10. According to Annabelle's family, she was incredibly smart
and loved to go to school. We still don't have the details on everybody, but other victims
included Nevaeh Brajo, McKenna Elrod, age 10, Jose Flores Jr., age 10,
Ellie Garcia, age 10, Tess Marie Mata, age 10, and Miranda Mathis, age 11. The two teachers killed
were Erma Garcia and Eva Mireles. Garcia was a fourth grade teacher at Robb and a mother of four.
She was in her 23rd year of teaching. Mireles was also a fourth grade teacher with one daughter at Yeah, I never want to have to read the name of a child
who is not with us anymore ever again in my life.
Yeah, me either. In the time since, we've also learned more about the shooter and the events
leading up to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary. So tell us a little more about that.
Yeah. Officials say that they're still looking for answers about the gunman's motive.
But according to Texas Governor Greg Abbott, about 30 minutes before arriving at the
school, the gunman posted on Facebook that he was going to shoot his grandmother. He did so and then
posted to Facebook that he had. She survived and was able to get help from neighbors who called
the police. She's currently being hospitalized. The gunman's final post read, quote, I'm going
to shoot an elementary school. This was about 15 minutes before he arrived at the school's campus.
According to Facebook, these had been private messages rather than public posts.
These also mirror text messages that he reportedly sent to a girl in Germany who he met online.
She later shared them with CNN.
He indicated that he was annoyed with his grandmother because she took issue with his phone bill.
It appears that the AR rifle that he used was purchased legally last week,
just days after he turned 18.
He bought two assault rifles
along with 375 rounds of ammunition.
Just insane that that is something that somebody can do.
Yeah.
How are officials in Texas responding to this?
Not well, in my opinion.
They are repeatedly blaming mental health issues
for causing this.
Here is Governor Greg Abbott.
We have a problem with mental health illness in this community.
But even as Abbott kind of shifted the blame here, he said that the shooter, quote, had no known mental health history.
Obviously, people like Abbott have plenty of critics pointing at the state's extremely lax gun laws.
Beto O'Rourke is one of them. He spoke for
a lot of people yesterday when he interrupted Abbott's press conference. Videos show him
approaching the stage where Abbott, Ted Cruz, and several other politicians were giving this
conference. He accused them of doing nothing. Here is a clip of him speaking afterwards.
It is absolutely wrong. In fact, it is insane. The governor talks about mental health. It is insane that we allow an 18 year old to go in and buy an AR-15. What the hell did we think he was going to do with that? This one is on us.
Yeah, I mean, there's not much else to say. So let's talk about those gun laws then on the federal level. Has there been any movement to actually make them stronger in the wake of the mass shootings we've seen in the past couple of weeks.
Yeah, one would hope.
But federal law currently does not ban the sale of assault rifles.
Those were the weapons used both in Uvalde, Texas and in the mass shooting at a supermarket
in Buffalo, New York, less than two weeks ago.
As far as we know, both shooters were just 18 years old and were able to purchase their
firearms legally.
Although just days ago, Senator Dianne Feinstein reintroduced her bill to raise the age to be able to buy one of these weapons from 18 to 21.
But yesterday morning, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer told colleagues he wouldn't immediately bring gun control measures to the floor for a vote.
Those measures would likely fail because of Republicans' staunch opposition. And so instead, he is choosing to
wait for Senator Chris Murphy and other Democrats to negotiate a bipartisan measure with a better
chance of passing. Yeah, waiting seems to be the operative political tactic. Yeah, not one that
has worked in the past. No. So this is obviously a lot to take in. We're going to continue to report
more on all this as we know more in the days ahead. But we also wanted to find out how this mass shooting is spurring local gun control
activists into action. Earlier, we spoke with Nicole Golden. She is the executive director of
Texas Gun Sense, a nonprofit advocacy group that works to make changes to state gun laws. Golden
first got involved in gun reform work following the Sandy Hook shooting nearly 10 years ago.
We started by asking her how it feels to see such a similar tragedy occur now.
It's a shattering experience. And then, of course, what I'm feeling fails in comparison to what
I can only imagine the families of Uvalde are experiencing. But I'm a parent, and so I have
to sort of compartmentalize to go on with the work that I do.
Right. Yeah. President Biden renewed his call for Congress to, quote, stand up to the gun lobby. Do you expect that this is the straw
that will break the camel's back, so to speak? They will finally do something? You know, I really
appreciate the action Biden's taken and his strong words, not only about this, but also allocating
federal money to community violence intervention programs. I think with regard to your tipping point question, I once saw a Sandy Hook parent speak and someone asked her a question about why
wasn't this a tipping point? And she said, you know, I think that sometimes it's a tipping point,
but it just takes a long time to tip. And so just kind of thinking about these things like Sandy
Hook and like Uvalde and like so many others, so many I can't name, they do spark public outrage and public support for gun violence prevention measures. Are they
the spark for everything we need in this country? No. But you have to really approach this work as
a chipping away strategy. And talking about the laws in Texas, Republicans have repeatedly relaxed
gun laws in the past several years. We're going to have a link to a story that details that in our show notes. But
for example, last year, Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill that prevents any local or state
agency from enforcing any new federal gun laws. So as we're speaking after this, in Texas
specifically, how much can we anticipate state lawmakers to change, be more serious about gun
control laws? What is the immediate response here? Working at the state level has been a real uphill climb. I'm not going
to couch it any other way. It's really been tough. We know that we're on the right side. We know that
we're joined by many others. Last legislative session, law enforcement associations came out
in opposition to removing licensing and training requirements to carry a handgun in Texas. So
that just goes to show you the broad support from so many different voices against that
reckless legislation. But yes, Governor Abbott signed permitless carry. And even with that
outpouring of opposition across the state. And while that passed forward, things that we fought
for didn't make it out of committee, like closing background check loopholes in the state. So every
gun sale requires background check, extreme risk protection orders that allow law enforcement
and work through a court system to temporarily remove firearms from someone who's at risk to
themselves or others. Yeah, Texas is kind of renowned for being lax with gun laws and gun
controls. It's also been the site of multiple mass shootings over the past five years. There
was another school shooting back
in 2018 that was rather large. As an activist, how do you kind of sway Texans' opinions on the
issue despite that long history of gun culture? You know, I'm real hopeful in working with Texans
from all backgrounds because I've seen people step forward and say, you know, what can I do?
I'm a gun owner. What can I do? People want to see change. It doesn't matter who they're affiliated with and whether or not they own a gun.
If you talk one-on-one with people, they support these things. These are common sense,
broad appeal measures. I especially find that when you talk to people about something like
safe gun storage, for example, that can really pull people into a conversation and open up doors
on the broader issue of gun violence prevention. Our message is moderate. It brings in all voices. And we've had a lot of success meeting people where they
are with that message. Yeah. And beginning tomorrow, the NRA's National Convention is
going to start in Houston with a lot of these politicians that we're talking about scheduled
to speak there. What do you make of that, especially happening right now? What should
people who want these changes to happen in Texas and across the country make of that, especially happening right now? What should people who want these changes to
happen in Texas and across the country make of this? The timing is horrendous. And I've had some
people across the state already reach out and say, what's going on? What actions are we taking?
I understand their outrage. I think it's terrible. The gun lobby has worked for a long time to push
gun bills across state legislatures and at a federal level that are harmful and keep really sensible things from passing.
We have often been the opposing voice, sometimes the only one in the room here at our state legislature.
But I think we speak for most people, and I don't think that the things that they work toward do. I want to know what is giving you hope at this point in time that there might be
substantive change, that this isn't one in a long line of really sad things that will
continue to happen and that there will be something tangible to come out of your work.
You know, we've had people offering tools from larger organizations.
We've had donations coming in.
We've had people saying, I'm ready.
Like I've had enough. I'm had donations coming in. We've had people saying, I'm ready. I've had
enough. I'm ready to join in. The movement gives me hope. And having seen the movement grow and get
stronger over the course of the 10 years I've been around gives me a great deal of hope, even
when policy outcomes have been discouraging. Well, thank you again, Nicole. We really appreciate it.
Thanks, y'all. That was our conversation with Nicole Golden, the Executive Director of Texas Gun Sense.
If you want to get involved, learn more, or donate,
please check out txgunsense.org.
We will add a link to it in our show notes.
We're also going to link to a few more resources
to help people in Uvalde right now.
More on all this very soon,
but that is the latest we have for now.
We'll be back after some ads. Let's wrap up with some headlines.
Trump-backed candidates saw mixed results during Tuesday's primary elections in different states.
In Georgia, the former president funneled millions into former senator and blue-jean-wearing multimillionaire David Perdue's campaign for governor.
But Perdue lost to current Republican Governor Brian Kemp Tuesday night by a whopping 50 percentage points.
That's so many.
Not so close.
Many points.
Representative Jody Heiss, who Trump also endorsed, lost his race for Georgia Secretary of State to Brad Raffensperger, another one of Trump's many enemies.
Trump's pick did better in Arkansas. His former press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who we all had hoped would remain in the past forever, won her primary race for governor by a landslide.
In Alabama, Governor Kay Ivey avoided a runoff by winning a majority of the vote, beating back eight primary challengers.
But some races remained too close to call on Tuesday night. In Texas, the House race between
incumbent Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar and progressive challenger Jessica Cisneros is
neck and neck, though Cuellar has already declared victory. The Associated Press reported that there
was just a mere 175 vote difference between the two candidates yesterday. And the stakes here are pretty high.
Cuellar, a Democrat who got support from the party establishment
while being both pro-gun and anti-abortion,
is fighting with Cisneros to represent Texas's 28th district,
which is majority Latino.
And Republicans are determined to flip the seat in November.
Yeah, I'm not particularly sure why,
given if Cuellar keeps his seat,
that doesn't really seem like they need to be working that hard.
An update on the baby formula shortage in the U.S. New reporting shows that while a whistleblower
sent a report to the FDA last year warning it about the unsanitary conditions at Michigan's
Abbott Infant Formula Factory, the FDA's top food safety official literally missed the memo and didn't see it until four
months after it was sent. Allegedly, the memo got lost in the mailroom of all places.
By the time it got to Frank Giannis, the deputy commissioner for food policy and response,
one infant had already died after consuming Abbott's formula and two others were hospitalized.
It was only after another infant died that the factory recalled its formula
and shut down operations.
Dr. Robert Califf, chief of the FDA,
testified at two House committee hearings yesterday,
acknowledging his agency's failure to act quickly
to address the issue.
And he described the, quote,
egregiously unsanitary environment of the Michigan plant.
According to him, the roof was leaking
and there were cracks in the factory's equipment
where bacteria grew and contaminated its products. Califf also said that he and the
Justice Department worked together to fix these issues. And Abbott Nutrition said that it already
plans to reopen its Michigan plant next week so that new formula would be available for purchase
around June 20th. At least that's coming relatively soon. I mean, slight positive. Who knows if that is
slightly reassuring at this point or not? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. One corporation's
commitment to compassion and understanding hit a dollar signed shaped snag this week,
and they've changed course as a result. State Farm Insurance announced yesterday that they had
dropped their support for an organization called the Gender Cool Project, which helps teach young people about what it means to be transgender and non-binary
after conservatives complain. State Farm had partnered with Gender Cool to donate educational
books about LGBTQ plus topics to schools and libraries. These efforts were focused in Florida,
where the states don't say gay law has threatened any discussion of these topics at all. Pushback
from places like the bad faith Twitter account Libbs of tick tock led State Farm to back off. And a statement State Farm said, quote,
conversations about gender and identity should happen at home with parents. We no longer support
the program allowing for distribution of books in schools. Okay. It's all a reminder to resist
the powerful urge to stand insurance companies with horrible jingles. Thankfully, the folks at Gender Cool say the publicity from this whole fiasco
has led to an outpouring of support for their organization from non-state farm entities.
Listen, I think this is a chance for Progressive to step up, to earn that name.
Take it over.
You could do it.
Be a hero.
Be a legend.
It seems like a gimme, right?
I mean, yeah, very easy way to win
points. There is a reason UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaks with such a strong accent. Just
wait for it. He is wasted. And this is made clear by a series of booze-fueled gatherings held at the
Prime Minister's residence in the height of COVID, which were the subject of a long-awaited report
released by the British government yesterday, written by a senior civil servant who I'm sure would have rather been doing
anything else.
Probably, yes.
The report on, quote unquote, Partygate found that 83 people, including Johnson, broke lockdown
rules at the events, which were held between May 2020 and April 2021.
The ale was flowing at these events, and at times it seems like attendees did manage to
beat the COVID odds and party like it was 2019. The report mentions at least one physical fight,
at least one person getting sick, and at least one time that someone damaged the Prime Minister's
son's swing set. Oh my God. The report places blame for the parties squarely on the shoulders
of senior leadership who allowed them to go on and gave junior staffers the sense that the parties were OK.
Johnson apologized and took responsibility for the events in Parliament yesterday.
But he also gave this explanation for why he thought turning up with his staff during lockdown was basically a good deed.
I briefly attended such gatherings to thank them for their service, which I believe is one of the essential duties of leadership
and particularly important when people need to feel that their contributions have been appreciated.
I'm sorry, I can't get enough of everybody laughing their asses off.
Yeah, immediately. Unbelievable.
Incredibly funny.
Nice try, I guess.
Truly.
Much of the criticism that has been directed
at johnson stems from his initial denials of the party gate allegations leaders of opposition
parties called for his resignation yesterday a yougov poll indicates that just under 60 percent
of uk residents agree that he should step down i hope that in this report there is something a
little bit more extensive on the events that impacted this swing set.
Yeah, I want to know if it's repaired.
Right.
Justice for the swing set.
Were we pushing people too hard in it?
Were we swinging in it too hard ourselves and something happened to the links here?
What happened to the swing set?
We need the details.
We need the details.
I mean, you threw this in here.
You thought we weren't going to ask. Please. I have questions. You have questions. We need the details. We need the details. I mean, you threw this in here. You thought we weren't going to ask.
Please.
I have questions.
You have questions.
We all have questions.
I will be interviewing the individual who damaged
said swing set.
With a voice changer.
Yes, exactly.
Right.
They're in witness protection
at this point for sure.
Those are the headlines.
One more thing before we go.
There is something really exciting coming up for Crooked.
More than exciting.
I'd say it's energizing.
Can you guess what it is?
We're all being given batteries.
Close.
Maybe.
Not quite.
What I can tell you, though, is that it's delicious.
So keep an eye out for something coming to Crooked soon.
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crooked.com slash subscribe i'm priyanka arabindi i'm gide Gideon Resnick. And fix Boris Johnson's son's
swing set. Please. It is in disrepair and a lot of people are talking about it. It will eat away
at me and mostly Gideon until the status of this is known. Please. We have to find out. I would
like him to speak about it on the floor of parliament, perhaps to some laughs. Right.
Boris Johnson getting booed and laughed at once again for talking about his son's
damaged swing set. Make it happen.
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