What A Day - The Human Cost Of Military Pollution In Hawai'i with Kai Kahele
Episode Date: December 15, 2021Tens of thousands of military families in O’ahu have been living without clean water for weeks after their water well was contaminated with petroleum. Many people got severely ill and some were even... hospitalized for skin rashes, chemical burns, and vomiting. Hawai’i Congressman Kai Kahele joins us to discuss the gravity of the situation and how we got here. And in headlines: the Senate voted to raise the debt ceiling, six women sued Tesla for sexual harassment in the workplace, and former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was ordered to forfeit the earnings from his book.Show Notes:PBS: “Navy’s water contamination flub in Hawaii follows 8 years of warning signs” – https://to.pbs.org/3EYiXLUHawai’i Sierra Club’s Red Hill Quick Resources and Actions – https://sierraclubhawaii.org/redhillFor a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday
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It is Wednesday, December 15th. I'm Gideon Resnick.
And I am Josie Duffy Rice, and this is What A Day,
where we are celebrating Steph Curry's new record for three-pointers by training to shatter it.
Yeah, it is a long path that involves us being drafted into the NBA,
but we think it's a worthy goal.
You know, I've accomplished all my goals so far, so I just need more things to work towards. Right.
On today's show, Congress raises the debt ceiling again. Plus, New York State says that Andrew Cuomo
has to hand over the royalties from his memoir. But first, we turn to a story out of Hawaii that
we've reported on before, where tens of thousands of families have been living without clean water in their homes for weeks. It all started late last month when residents who
live on or near the Joint Navy Base at Pearl Harbor Hickam in Oahu noticed a fuel-like smell
coming from their taps, and it turned out that the water was contaminated with petroleum. Many people
got severely ill. Some are even hospitalized for skin rashes and
chemical burns and vomiting, all of which are symptoms consistent with petroleum contamination.
Not ever a word you want to hear about your water. My family and I, we got sick. My cats were
vomiting. My son and I were nauseous. We got headaches. I had bloody stools. My husband had
like really bad stomach pains. Just truly awful. That was Mai Hall, a native Hawaiian resident in military housing.
She and her family get their water from the Red Hill Well, which is connected to a site that the Navy manages,
which is also, you guessed it, a fuel storage facility.
And she told us how this contaminated water affected her neighbors, too.
A lot of my friends took pictures of their kids with blistered bloody lips. Somebody went to the ER for chemical burns inside their
mouth. Somebody's five-month pregnant wife went to the ER for uncontrollable vomiting. And somebody's
little infant was covered in a red rash from bathing in the water. Yeah, it's horrible. For
how petroleum might have entered people's drinking water, here is a timeline.
So on November 22nd, 14,000 gallons of fuel and water leaked out from the facility.
But at the time, military officials said water was safe to drink.
Then on November 28th, the Navy quietly shut down the Red Hill well after getting hundreds of complaints.
And finally, on December 2nd, they publicly announced that there was a problem and that the water was contaminated and unsafe to drink. However, to this day,
the Navy has not officially confirmed how fuel got into the water well.
Known problems with Red Hill date as far back as 2014, when 27,000 gallons of jet fuel leaked from
the facility, and local activists say that they've tried to flag issues with the facility for years. And this past week, it's time for us to take the streets back, to take our land
back, to take our water back, and get the U.S. military out of Hawaii permanently. Take your
own Hawaii leave. So that was dozens of protesters calling on the Navy to permanently suspend its
operations at Red Hill. On December 7th, the state's Department of Health also ordered
the Navy to shut down the facility. But the Navy has said it will contest this order at a court
hearing tomorrow. Yeah, so there's a lot that is going on here. And we wanted to learn more about
the entire situation. So we have with us today Kai Kahele. He is the House representative of
Hawaii's second congressional district. And he's been very vocal on this issue. He also is on the
House Armed Services Committee. Welcome to Whataday. Aloha. Thanks for having me. We've heard a lot
about problems with drinking water in other parts of the country, especially in places like Flint,
Michigan. I think it's worth noting that water is a particularly important part of Native Hawaiian
culture. So as a Native Hawaiian, can you explain what significance it has to you
personally? You know, there's a olelo no eau or a saying that says,
he hui vai ola ke kanaka na kane, which means man is kane's living water gourd. And basically,
that means is that water is life, and kane or man is the keeper of the water. In the Hawaiian language, vai is water, and vai vai means values
or means wealth. There is no coincidence that in our island community, both wealth and law were
tied and defined by fresh water. Yeah. And so to that point, Congressman,
how did you learn about the Navy-based water contamination at Red Hill? How did it actually make you feel to hear it initially?
I was first contacted that there was an incident at Red Hill on Saturday night, November 20th.
Although the Navy acknowledged that there was an incident that Saturday night, by Monday
that incident was contained, we did not understand the gravity of that incident and what would
occur over the next few days. I started receiving emails
about November 28, 29 from hundreds of military families telling me their personal stories about
how they were affected. Stories that when I read them, they bring me to tears because I think about
those military families and how we failed them, how the United States military failed those families.
A big concern that you've brought up and many others have too is that Red Hills fuel tanks are corroding and just 100 feet above Honolulu's most important aquifer.
So if a fuel leak reached that aquifer, what would happen?
It would be catastrophic. The largest bulk fuel reserve for the United States military in the entire nation, let alone the Indo-Pacific, does sit 100 feet above a federally designated sole source aquifer that feeds the ground aquifers for the island of Oahu.
It would contaminate it for generations.
Wow.
And it would be irreversible for hundreds of years.
Right. That is non-negotiable. Right. That cannot happen. Wow. and the residents of the island of Oahu that depend on this aquifer, about 700,000 residents.
Everything from Honolulu Airport or Aloha Stadium,
where a lot of people are familiar with,
where a lot of the football games are played, the Pro Bowls are played there.
From there all the way to Hanama Bay.
So you're talking all of Waikiki,
the entire east side of the island of Oahu depends on that aquifer.
Wow.
So mind-blowing to hear the stakes put like this.
Because you're on the House Armed Services Committee, you've been really vocal in taking the Navy to task over this. So let's listen to a moment from your speech and committee last week,
where you brought a bottle of contaminated water from Oahu to question Navy Vice Admiral
Rick Williamson about next steps. And I can guarantee you, Vice Admiral Williamson, if you
smell this water that I allowed the chairman to smell before this hearing started, you would know
that something's wrong with this water. And yet the Navy seems totally unprepared for this situation
that has now impacted the military's own service members and families. And what is happening on
the ground in Hawaii right now is absolutely unacceptable. Ultimately, what do you want the
Navy to do? What should they
be doing at this moment to solve this problem? You know, we have thousands of military families
who are displaced from their homes, who are living in hotels in Waikiki, who have had to leave their
homes and their Christmas trees and their presents and their decorations outside. You have health
effects, some short term, some long term health effects, some short-term, some long-term
health effects, screening everyone, taking care of people that have been affected, ended up in
a hospital, pregnant mothers that are worried, sick, and rightfully so that they consumed
petroleum contaminated water for almost an entire week, you know, while they're carrying their
unborn child. The other things about conducting a thorough investigation, holding people accountable.
People should be fired for what is happening right now.
People should lose their jobs and people should be relieved of command for what is happening right now with this crisis.
Right. And then the next piece is and probably the final piece, which is the most difficult thing, is what is the long term solution for Red Hill?
Is the complete decommission of the tanks and draining of the tanks one solution?
Is there other alternatives that are available on the table?
We don't know what that answer is right now.
We're waiting for the Navy to provide us some of those answers.
But they need to be able to have the full faith and confidence of the people of Hawaii
that they are taking care of the people and the environment first. And if they cannot do that, then the Red Hill tanks cannot and should not be there.
You had mentioned in the same committee hearing that there have been warning signs of something
like this happening, right? This didn't come out of nowhere. There were three massive fuel leaks
at Red Hill in the past few years. So do you believe that this was a preventable crisis? It was 100% preventable. You know, incidents started happening in the early 2000s. And by
2014, the first incident happened with tank number five, that leaked out about 27,000 gallons of fuel
because of faulty contracting work done on the tank. The event
that happened back in May was the result of operator error in the control room that didn't
properly transfer fuel, caused overpressuring in one of the lines and caused that line to rupture.
The incident that just happened on November 20th, that was a result of operator error.
Those three incidents were human error. If we believe that that's
everything that has happened and that the Navy has been honest, transparent and forthcoming
in those incidents that have happened since 2014. Yeah. And I'm curious, before we start to
consider all that, what actions have you taken to help families that are in need? And what more are
you planning to do? Congress is out of session and the military has said, you know, it can't guarantee
that displaced families will be able to return to their homes or have clean water until next year,
which seems astonishing. That's what the army says. They're saying that our army families,
there's about 1700 or so families that are displaced from their homes. Don't plan to be
back in your home before Christmas. And a matter of fact, we'll be lucky if we can get you back in your homes by Valentine's Day.
And so that's something that I think is really, really important that the Army and the Navy
get on the same page, set realistic timelines and deadlines for our military families
of when they can get back in their homes. And if you tell people what they can expect,
then people can prepare. Long term, there And if you tell people what they can expect,
then people can prepare.
Long-term, there's no easy solution here.
Up until now, the Navy has not prioritized that in their budget.
They have not prioritized it from the White House.
It has not been prioritized
from the Office of Management budget.
We need to see those priorities reflected
in the Navy's and the Department of Defense's budget
when it comes to Congress.
Yeah.
Well, Kai Kahele, the House Representative of Hawaii's 2nd Congressional District,
we want to thank you so much again for taking so much time to join us today on What A Day.
Aloha. Thank you so much for having me.
There's a lot more about this situation that you can learn. We'll put links in our show notes so
you can read more and also take action to support the families affected by the crisis.
And that is the latest for now.
Now let's get to some headlines.
The Senate voted to raise the debt ceiling yesterday,
meaning we will not default on our debts.
But to do that, the Senate had to change the rules for just this issue last week so the ceiling could be raised with a simple majority. That meant that only Democrats needed to vote yes on the measure instead of trying to wrangle 10 Republicans to
get on board, which, as we know, is historically unlikely. That opened a can of worms, though.
Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock, among others, said that Democrats should use the same strategy
to pass laws that protect voting rights, which Republicans have continuously blocked. Here is what he said on
the Senate floor yesterday. I believe that we Democrats can figure out how to get this done,
even if that requires a change in the rules, which we established just last week that we can
do when the issue is important enough. Well, voting rights are important enough.
Yeah.
Election reform is one of the many issues on the Democrats' to-do list before the end of the year,
as is the $1.7 trillion Build Back Better bill.
But both hang in the hands of, drum roll, Democratic Senator Joe Manchin.
And he says that he will not vote to change the Senate rules to pass voting reform
and has yet to back the social safety net legislation as well.
You know, I hope that when democracy is truly over, Joe Manchin will sleep fine at night knowing that he didn't vote to change the most obvious rules.
Oh, he will.
On Earth that require changing.
Good luck, Joe.
Six women are suing Tesla, accusing the company of being complicit amid allegations of sexual harassment in the workplace.
Each woman filed a separate suit yesterday, and they alleged their male counterparts were frequently inappropriate with them during their shifts.
Kat calling them, making lewd comments and touching them intimately without their consent.
When the women reported this behavior to human resources, they either never heard back or were just moved to a different workstation. Some women said that they didn't even report the harassment they faced
because it came from their supervisors. A similar lawsuit was filed last month by another female
Tesla employee who said she faced harassment at the company's location in Fremont, California.
David Lowe, the attorney representing the women, said that sexual harassment is, quote,
pervasive throughout the workplace, and now we know it's not just the factory floor in Fremont, but other locations.
Tesla has yet to comment about the allegations.
Wow. A Belarusian court convicted political opposition leader
Sergei Tikhanovsky to 18 years in prison yesterday.
He was charged with organizing mass unrest and social hatred
and is the latest rival of authoritarian President Alexander Lukashenko to be sentenced. Back in 2020, Tikhanovsky attempted to run for president
but was arrested before the election. His wife, Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, stepped in to continue
to lead the opposition movement. In an interview with the BBC, she said it was obvious why her
husband was convicted. It's personal revenge, but I believe that my husband is a strong person
and he will not, of course, for sure, spend all these years in jail.
Lukashenko has been in power since 1994 and has repeatedly gone after many people who challenge him.
According to one rights group in Belarus, his regime is currently holding 920 political prisoners.
We have officially arrived at the final stage in the life cycle of Andrew Cuomo's pandemic-themed
book, We Can Only Hope. Although this one seems to have nine lives, so anything's possible.
This stage is complete and total erasure. The disgraced former governor of New York has been
ordered to fork over the millions he pocketed from writing American Crisis Leadership Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic,
which came out when the pandemic was still wearing its metaphorical virus onesie.
Cuomo originally got the OK from the state to work on the book because he swore he didn't use any state personnel or resources to write it.
But yesterday, a New York ethics board said that he broke that promise and that he relied on administration officials and aides throughout the process.
According to a report by investigators, one top aide traded over 1,000 emails about the memoir last year.
Cuomo was already paid over $3 million by Crown, his book's publisher, and has 30 days to give that up to the state.
Crown was also supposed to pay him an extra $2 million over the next couple of years, but it's unclear if it'll follow through. In response, Cuomo's lawyer said the move by the ethics board was unconstitutional and
will challenge the decision in court.
Listen, I think that somehow the resolution here should involve Andrew having to add a
chapter for all of the scandals that have happened since the book came out to the book
and he has to write the chapters himself and go through like the same,
I'm sure, rigorous editing process that took place for the initial publishing of this.
And that is how the punishment should be doled out.
I am down with this plan, except I think there is one issue we have not covered,
which is that it has to be edited by like 10 members of the public before he can run it.
It can't just be his book editor, you know? Okay. You got to make sure that like people
actually live in New York, maybe a couple people who are like in nursing homes during COVID. Yeah.
Should get to have a say in what he writes. A citizen review board. Yeah. Of the most
affected constituents. I love it. I love it. Well, we wish him the best in his writing endeavors.
And those are the headlines.
We will be back after some ads.
It's Wednesday, WOD Squad.
And today we are doing a segment called The Solution,
where we propose a fix to a news story that has created chaos in our world.
Guiding us through it is our head writer, John Milstein.
Hey, John.
Hey, guys.
Thanks so much.
Been in the lab on this one a long time,
and it's really important that I get it out. We agree. I am excited and also terrified.
So this week, Elon Musk received the greatest honor, a magazine canvas show,
Times Person of the Year. The founder and CEO of the electric car company Tesla,
rocket ship company SpaceX, and the richest man on the
planet. He got his new title on Monday. Time chose Musk because of his work, quote, creating solutions
to an existential crisis, for embodying the possibilities and perils of the age of tech
titans, and for driving society's most daring and disruptive transformations. Some progressives were
critical of Time's decision given Musk's history of union
busting, tax avoidance, and ungodly wealth accumulation. Also, as we just mentioned a few
minutes ago, the culture of sexism and harassment that has allegedly developed at his companies.
Soon after the announcement, Senator Elizabeth Warren tweeted that Musk should, quote,
pay taxes and stop freeloading. In a reply Musk addressed to Senator Karen,
yes, he did call her Senator Karen,
the tech mogul slash bad internet
comedian told Warren, quote,
you remind me of when I was a kid and my friend's
angry mom would just randomly yell at
everyone for no reason.
Sure, of course. I feel like she probably has a reason.
Of course, this insult falls apart if you consider
how hard it would be for any of us not
to yell at a child version of Elon Musk.
In defending Time's selection, many have noted that the Person of the Year title implies
less of a value judgment and more of a measure of an individual's impact.
Previous selections have included Hitler, Stalin, and yes, Donald Trump.
Still, that explanation will not satisfy everyone.
So for those who object to Elon Musk as Person of the year, here is John with the solution.
The choice of Elon Musk for person of the year says more about our society's need to obsessively
rank and compare things than it does about anything else. Instead of getting mad about it,
we should simply go outside, get some fresh air, and if we bump into Elon Musk, stage a highly
produced prank involving Christmas ghosts that makes him give away all his money or else go insane.
Debating online whether Musk deserve this title may bring relief, but ultimately it will have no impact.
What would have impact is stepping away from our computers, driving to the Halloween store and buying a scary mask and or skeleton chest plate that lets us convince Elon Musk.
We're a supernatural being from his Christmas past, present or future.
We know how he's going to die.
And if he doesn't atone for his greed, it's all going to end really, really, really bad.
Any discussion of Musk as person of the year really boils down to the question of what matters more,
the opinions of some editors at Time Magazine,
or the opinions of the people that we're close to, our friends, and our loved ones,
whose help we will desperately need as we wrangle
fog machines pipe organs loud and scary chains and lots of other props that let us convince elon musk
he has stepped into his own christmas carol nightmare and it won't end until he publicly
admits that his mars plans are dumb and bad and there's actually pretty big problems happening
here on earth the alternative as i said before is that our little immersive play is so good
it turns Musk into a big babbling fool.
By the way, only somewhat related,
if we do get these great skeleton costumes,
we should still use them to do a limited number of scares
on the Time Magazine editors that made this decision.
Those costumes are expensive,
and it just makes economic sense.
Yeah, I did have one quibble,
and it was using it only once.
And you solved that as well.
Honestly, John, I think we could go even further.
I can list 50 people right now that we could, you know, every year we just we appear.
We are the ghost.
We need to have a theater company that creates a little play for Elon Musk for every day for the rest of his life.
That would be God's work, honestly.
It would be God's work and it would also be WOD's work, you could say.
True. WOD's plan.
True. WOD's plan. That's where we're going to end it. That was the solution.
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