What A Day - The Palin New York Times

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

New U.S. cases of COVID are down slightly from the peak brought on by the Omicron variant. Average daily cases are closer to 700,000 than 800,000, which is where they were earlier in the month, and ho...spitalizations are at a record high but have started to level off. We look at the numbers and discuss new data on the efficacy of booster vaccine doses.The Sarah Palin v. The New York Times libel case goes to trial today. Palin filed the suit after the New York Times suggested that an ad placed by Palin's PAC was linked to the shooting of former Arizona Representative Gabby Giffords in 2011. We review the case and its potential to change how we think about First Amendment protections for journalists.And in headlines: A fire in the Palo Colorado Canyon area forced hundreds of people to flee their homes along the California coast, a Saudi-led airstrike killed at least 87 people in a Yemen prison, and New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern canceled her own wedding because of COVID.Follow us on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/whataday/For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/whataday

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It is Monday, January 24th. I'm Gideon Resnick. And I'm Josie Duffy Rice. And this is What A Day, where we want to make sure you're sitting down before we tell you that Anna Kendrick and Bill Hader have been quietly dating for over a year. If you just crashed your car, we deeply apologize. And we hope that you are getting the medical attention you need. We assume no liability for your injuries. On today's show, a wildfire in Big Sur forces evacuations, plus the prime minister of all of
Starting point is 00:00:35 our hearts, New Zealand's Jacinda Ardern, canceled her wedding because of COVID. But first, let's take a look at the trajectory of the pandemic in the U.S. Dr. Anthony Fauci was on ABC's This Week yesterday and projected some cautious optimism. You never want to be overconfident when you're dealing with this virus, Martha, because it has certainly surprised us in the past. But if you look at the patterns that we've seen in South Africa, in the U.K. and in Israel, and that, as you mentioned just a moment ago, in the northeastern New England and upper Midwest states, they've peaked and starting to come down rather sharply.
Starting point is 00:01:07 There are still some states in the southern states and western states that continue to go up. But if the pattern follows the trend that we're seeing in other places, such as the northeast, I believe that you will start to see a turnaround throughout the entire country. I will never stop loving that man's accent. He went on to say that hopefully over the next few weeks or months, that cases could get to a point where they're not disrupting the entire country. Can you even imagine that, Gideon?
Starting point is 00:01:35 No. I kind of can't. Not at all. So can you tell us how numbers are looking right now? Yeah, I mean, overall, to his point, they are starting to come down from an incredibly high peak of cases. Average daily cases are now closer to 700,000 than 800,000, which is where they were earlier in the month. That, of course, is still crazy high. Hospitalizations, too, are still at a record but have started to level off.
Starting point is 00:01:58 But we are once more talking about around 2,000 deaths on average a day, which is really horrific and represents where we have already been in terms of how many people have gotten sick. It is on the regional levels, though, throughout the country, like Fauci referenced, where public health officials are seeing some glimmers of optimism. Cases are falling, for example, pretty rapidly in places where Omicron first peaked, like New York City, Washington, D.C., for example. And the Times notes that case numbers are also declining outside of the Northeast in places like Florida, Pennsylvania, and Colorado. So it's not uniform across all states at this point. Cases are still going up in a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But what the country is sort of seeing is a trajectory that we saw in South Africa, which, of course, is where the Omicron variant was first ID'd. From about mid-December, which was the peak in South Africa, which, of course, is where the Omicron variant was first ID'd. From about mid December, which was the peak in South Africa, cases have fallen off substantially by about 85%. So it does seem to fall pretty rapidly. It definitely remains to be seen what comes next here, though, right? Like whether this Omicron surge ultimately leads to COVID becoming more endemic or not. No one, Fauci included, wants to say, of course, which is why the best we are getting right now is a bit of cautious optimism.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I will take whatever we can get right now. It's so uneven that you can see reasons for future hope, even while hospital systems like those in Mississippi, for example, are under tremendous strain. Sticking with cautious optimism, just for a moment, the CDC published some new real-world studies on vaccine boosters in the U.S. on Friday. So can you tell us what those said? Yeah, I think the one that really jumped out to people was this analysis of hospitalizations from around August to early January. It showed that a third shot of either Pfizer or Moderna reduced the chance of hospitalization by 90% compared to a person who is unvaccinated. Wow. hospitalization by 90% compared to a person who is unvaccinated. Now, the flip side of that,
Starting point is 00:03:50 according to the lead author of one of the reports who spoke to the Washington Post, is that people with just two shots have seen a pretty big decline in protection against Omicron, particularly if it has been around six months after the second shot. The protection against hospitalization there was just something like 57%, so a pretty big drop. The research overall did show that the booster doses gave the greatest amount of protection to older people, with booster recipients who were aged 65 and older showing the biggest declines in severe health outcomes. Yeah, and so what more do we know about who is getting boosted right now? It certainly seems like it's fallen off a little bit. So the country appeared to be on a roll with administering boosters earlier this month as Omicron was really coming
Starting point is 00:04:30 to dominate. But that only pushed the overall number of people who have been boosted to just under around 40 percent. Now, granted, some people are not eligible yet because there hasn't been enough time since their last shot, for example. And the Post notes, though, that about a third of eligible people older than 65 have not gotten one yet. And that is concerning to public health experts. Only about 4% did so this month. The more free time these wonderful retired people have at home to watch Tucker Carlson do anti-vax slam poetry, the worse it is for our fragile country. That all tracks. Some public health experts in
Starting point is 00:05:06 the article, though, were optimistic that new data around booster efficacy could help in the communication efforts, but that there also should be a refining of the message to target vulnerable populations better. We will get into more of all of that soon, of course. But Josie, you had something else pretty crazy that you wanted to talk about. Yes. Moving away from our pandemic world and towards the world of the absurd, Sarah Palin versus the New York Times. A real life libel case goes to trial today. And even though it sounds like a Tucker Carlson slam poetry segment or a sketch on Newsmax's version of SNL. It really is actually a big deal. So this case alone has the potential to change First Amendment protections for journalists. Yeah, everything I've heard about this has sort of made me a little bit uneasy for
Starting point is 00:05:57 that exact fact. So can you give us the basics of this lawsuit? Sure. So it all goes back to June 2017, four and a half years ago, and also a lifetime ago in its own way. Yes. The New York Times published an editorial on the day of the congressional baseball shooting where House Representative Steve Scalise was injured. And the editorial argued that increasingly vicious political rhetoric on both sides could be encouraging violence. And in particular, the piece argued that, quote, the link to political incitement was clear between the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords and a map that Palin's Political Action Committee had published that marked 20 congressional districts that Republicans hope to win in the next election with, quote, stylized crosshairs. Got it. And then it turns out, though,
Starting point is 00:06:42 that in the incident of the Giffords shooting, there wasn't any evidence of that link that the Times had described. Right, exactly. So New York Times definitely, definitely made a mistake claiming that there was a clear link between the shooting and the map. There's no evidence that that was the case or that the man who shot Giffords was influenced by that map whatsoever. Palin, right about that. Insert the worst person you know just made a good point meme here. So the New York Times did what it should have done in the face of a mistake like this, right? It corrected it. But yet we're here four and a half years later still talking about this mistake. Yeah. And so my understanding then of this case is that the burden of proof is on Palin then, right? But what is it that she actually has to prove?
Starting point is 00:07:19 So she's bringing a libel case. And in libel cases, what a plaintiff has to prove depends on whether or not they're considered a public figure. And if they are a public figure, they have to meet a higher standard in order to win this case. So Palin has to prove more than just the New York Times was wrong or even the New York Times was negligent. She has to prove that the paper acted with, quote, actual malice, meaning they lied, they
Starting point is 00:07:42 knew they lied, and they lied maliciously. Right. And all of that is an incredibly high burden of proof. Right. I mean, Sarah Palin is climbing a real uphill battle here, for sure. The New York Times is basically saying, look, this was an honest mistake. And she's saying, no, it was something deeper. But still, the New York Times did make a mistake here, right? And they are the paper of record. So even though it seems that the odds of winning are somewhat in the New York Times favor, it's not a situation where, you know, the Times is going to come out looking great either. So what else should people be thinking about in terms of this lawsuit and its implications?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, well, as you may remember, Trump really wanted and talked a lot about loosening the standards around libel law so that public figures would not have to prove absolute malice, which would make it easier for them to sue outlets that get things wrong. And at least two Supreme Court justices, both Justice Gorsuch and Justice Thomas, have openly expressed interest in reconsidering that high standard as well. And it's fair to say that this would be a really bad thing, right? I mean, of course, it's very important to have high standards for news outlets. Misinformation is rampant. So we all have a vested interest in the New York Times and other outlets telling the truth. But removing the actual malice standard would make it so much harder for an already struggling industry to stay alive. And it would
Starting point is 00:08:59 leave journalists fighting worthless lawsuit after worthless lawsuit over minor discrepancies instead of really being able to do their job. Yeah, there are a lot of stakes here. You know, worst case scenarios, you could imagine how media could be changed in very impactful ways here. But since Palin is involved, there has to be something about this case that we can share that is also utterly insane to end on. Yeah, of course. We're talking about Sarah Palin here, right? So there's at least one thing like that. Apparently, there are some things the Palin legal team does not want to be included as
Starting point is 00:09:33 part of the case because they might cause, quote, unfair prejudice and confusion. In a court filing from a couple weeks ago, her lawyers asked that two clips from Palin's appearance on The Masked Singer be hidden from the jury. Those clips are listed as masked singer video reveal and masked singer video dancing and rapping. It is true. Inspiring confusion is certainly what is happening for me, I will say. We're going to let you listen to these clips of Palin on The Masked Singer yourselves, and you can decide whether or not you think Palin's attorneys are using expert legal judgment to try to keep these out. So keep in mind, she is dressed head to toe as a pink teddy bear while she sings this song by Sir Mix-a-Lot. girl walk in with an itty bitty waist and a round thing in your face you guess that's her voice that's sarah palin gideon wow that's not admissible in any public venue at all
Starting point is 00:10:36 where were there other humans you know i think post trump we kind of forget but it was pretty wild that she was steps away from being vice president. Yep. And it could have all been in a pink teddy bear suit and singing Sir Mix-a-Lot. Wow. The line between the Masked Singer and the White House is thin. And Sarah Palin walked it. Very thin.
Starting point is 00:10:57 So that is the latest for now. We'll follow this case and we'll be back after some ads. Let's wrap up with some headlines. Headlines. A fire in the Palo Colorado Canyon area forced hundreds of people to flee their homes along the California coast this past weekend. The blaze, which is now being referred to as the Colorado Fire, started Friday in a steep canyon and then quickly spread toward the sea. While it's unusual for a fire to happen this time of year, the dry weather and harsh winds of up to 50 miles per hour have created the perfect conditions. Authorities closed the stretch of Highway 1, the main roadway near Big Sur, on Saturday morning and put mandatory evacuations in place between Carmel and Big Sur.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And on Saturday, flames were hitting the edge of the iconic Bigsby Bridge, which you may remember from the HBO series Big Little Lies. As of yesterday, the fire was 25% contained and stretched across over 1,000 acres of land. Authorities are still investigating the cause. A Saudi-led airstrike on Friday hit a Yemen prison run by Houthi rebels, killing at least 87 people and wounding over 200. And another airstrike that day, led by the same Saudi coalition, hit a telecommunications center, causing a countrywide internet outage, which was ongoing in most of Yemen as of last night.
Starting point is 00:12:31 The Saudis and their allies have been fighting Yemen's Iran-backed Houthi rebels since 2015, and it has created what the UN has called the world's worst humanitarian crisis. This latest escalation comes just days after the Houthis used drones to drop bombs in Abu Dhabi, killing three people. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres condemned both the Saudi coalition and Houthis for their attacks and said, quote, what we need is to have, as we have been proposing from long ago, a ceasefire together with the opening of harbor and airports and then the beginning of a serious dialogue among the parties. Always great to hear calls for a serious dialogue in the middle of the worst humanitarian crisis in the
Starting point is 00:13:06 world. Awful. Awful. Consumers around the globe are struggling to keep up with rapid rates of inflation as countries set new records for price increases. In the EU, prices are rising at the fastest rate since the euro itself was introduced as a form of currency. Wow. The UK's annual inflation rate was the highest that it has been in 30 years, while Canadian consumers are watching prices rise at a rate twice as fast as they did before the pandemic. And here in the US, millions of Americans are struggling to afford basic necessities, even after receiving pay increases from their jobs. The rising prices have been attributed to supply chain disruptions, but economists say that government spending during the pandemic may also be to blame. In an effort to curb consumer spending, the Federal Reserve is planning on raising interest rates to make it harder for people to borrow funds.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Tomorrow, its policymaking committee is expected to announce that these rate increases will begin in March. So if you are putting off getting that loan for that trampoline cafe that you've been dreaming of starting, there is truly no time like the present. As the old saying goes, always the prime minister dealing with an unprecedented viral pathogen, never the bride. On Sunday, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern revealed in a press conference that she cancelled her own wedding plans in light of the most recent wave of COVID. Last month, New Zealand delayed plans of a phased reopening
Starting point is 00:14:21 after reports of Omicron's high transmissibility. And this week, they raised their threat level to a red light after health authorities reported a wave of new cases. When asked by reporters how she felt about canceling her matrimony plans, Ardern simply said, such is life. At least this way, she can be sure that something borrowed at her wedding won't be Uncle Artie's viral load. Now let's just hope we at WOD can get a full refund
Starting point is 00:14:45 on the gift we bought for the happy couple, a beautiful Williams-Sonoma dining table we laser engraved to say Boss Babe. It wasn't on the registry, but we really thought Jacinda would love it, you know? It is artfully done, and it's a commissioned piece that we are quite proud of. So maybe I'll just have to take the Boss Babe table now, Gideon.
Starting point is 00:15:04 The shipping would be less expensive, I will say. So that would ease my mind on that front. Honestly, everybody wins. Yes. Everybody wins. It is true. We apologize for that, Jacinda. And those are the headlines.
Starting point is 00:15:19 That is all for today. If you like the show, make sure you subscribe, leave a review, materialize a year-long celebrity relationship from thin air, and tell your friends to listen. And if you're into reading and not just what a sandwich used to cost, like me, What A Day is also a nightly newsletter. Check it out and subscribe at Cricut.com slash subscribe. I'm Josie Duffy Rice. I'm Gideon Resnick.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And we'll be at the next one, Jacinda. Yes. We have multiple tables that we've had engraved. So don't worry. There's ample gifts. We have Boss Babe tables for days. We run a Boss Babe table business actually. You're the lucky recipient
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