What A Day - When They Furlough, We Go High
Episode Date: March 31, 2020Efforts to bring unhoused people inside have been growing as the coronavirus outbreak takes hold, but advocates say there’s more to be done. We talk to Chris Ko, of the United Way in Los Angeles, to... learn more about the situation in that city. Workers across the country are feeling the impact of the pandemic. Employees at Macy’s, The Gap, and Kohl’s have been furloughed, while employees at Amazon, Instacart, and Whole Foods are going on strike. And in headlines: the DOJ investigates Senator Richard Burr’s stock trades, sold-out chickens, and an astrophysicist fights Covid-19 by putting metal in nose.
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                                         It's Tuesday, March 31st. I'm Akilah Hughes.
                                         
                                         And I'm Gideon Resnick. And this is What A Day,
                                         
                                         where we support the right of gas station TV to air Trump's pressers at gas stations.
                                         
                                         Look, if you want to hear the president make stuff up while you pump on light in, go for it.
                                         
                                         Not sure anyone is having this debate, but just wanted to weigh in. On today's show, how the novel
                                         
                                         coronavirus is affecting people experiencing homelessness right now and what you can do to
                                         
                                         help, then some headlines. But first, the latest. Yes, to that point, under six administrations,
                                         
                                         who has been the coolest president that you have worked with?
                                         
    
                                         Well, there's not a chance in the world I'm going to answer that one.
                                         
                                         So for those listening, that was Dr. Fauci. He was in a great banger of an interview with
                                         
                                         Desus and Mero. Watch it on Showtime. It aired last night. Yeah, I wouldn't want to go on the
                                         
                                         record about that, knowing who we know is in
                                         
                                         office right now. But in other news, so Maryland, Virginia, and D.C. are now under stay-at-home
                                         
                                         orders, which means about three in four Americans are under some form of lockdown. There are growing
                                         
                                         calls and efforts to release incarcerated people from jails, where the close quarters have helped
                                         
                                         the virus spread, and hand sanitizers often banned due
                                         
    
                                         to the alcohol content. So we're going to have more on those issues in the coming days. But today
                                         
                                         we're zeroing in on what's happening with workers across the country. Gideon, kick it off. Yeah, so
                                         
                                         let's begin by focusing on actions at Instacart and Amazon. The backdrop here is that workers are
                                         
                                         being asked to continue to put themselves in harm's way at these jobs, while much of the country is, like we said, under some form of lockdown and relying on
                                         
                                         grocery stores and delivery all the more while they're at home. At Instacart, the company is
                                         
                                         reliant on independent contractors, not employees. And those independent contractors were asking for,
                                         
                                         among other things like hazard pay, protective items like disinfectants for when
                                         
                                         they are delivering these groceries. The company responded by saying that it was going to allow
                                         
    
                                         workers to get hand sanitizer in the coming week. But that and the rest of the responses from the
                                         
                                         company were too little too late for many of the contractors, and they went on strike yesterday.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean, I get it. Like, if you're an employee and you have to wait a week to get
                                         
                                         hand sanitizer, I'm pretty sure I'd be like, this job sucks. Like, if you're an employee and you have to wait a week to get hand sanitizer,
                                         
                                         I'm pretty sure I'd be like, yeah, this job sucks.
                                         
                                         Like, you guys are terrible.
                                         
                                         Yeah, seriously.
                                         
                                         As for Amazon, employees at a warehouse in Staten Island walked out yesterday.
                                         
    
                                         Amazon warehouse employees have asked the company to offer paid sick time off. Now, currently, it's only available for people who test positive for COVID-19
                                         
                                         or are placed on mandatory self-quarantine.
                                         
                                         Kind of easy to see how folks might fall through the cracks there if they're not necessarily
                                         
                                         testing positive, but they feel sick. It's still difficult to get a test, of course.
                                         
                                         Additionally, they want the warehouse to be closed for a longer, more extensive cleaning
                                         
                                         if someone is diagnosed. According to the Washington Post, employees in at least 21
                                         
                                         Amazon warehouse and
                                         
                                         shipping facilities have tested positive for COVID-19. And one of the employees who helped
                                         
    
                                         organize the walkout in Staten Island, Chris Smalls, was actually fired at the end of the
                                         
                                         workday following the walkout. A manager at the warehouse allegedly told him that he was fired
                                         
                                         for coming into work after being in contact with a co-worker who tested positive, but the timing, of course, looked quite a bit like retaliation. As Amazon attempts to hire
                                         
                                         100,000 workers in order to meet additional demand at the moment, the company has said
                                         
                                         that it's increasing cleaning at facilities, encouraging distancing among workers, and
                                         
                                         checking employees' temperatures upon arrival. Yeah, but like, you know, these workers are
                                         
                                         asking for really reasonable stuff. It's insane. It's like, it's like this is putting Amazon out that rich company. All right. Well, I think it's safe to say we're gonna probably see more strikes and collective actions play out until, you know, workers are actually just guaranteed safety and basic benefits. But there's another action today at Whole Foods, right? Yeah. Employees are planning to call in sick there. They're demanding paid leave for all workers who stay home during the pandemic and double pay for those who do,
                                         
                                         in fact, work. Whole Foods, which is a subsidiary of Amazon, has increased hourly worker pay by $2
                                         
    
                                         an hour and offered two weeks paid sick leave for those who test positive for the virus. Again,
                                         
                                         sort of making a difficult decision for folks who aren't necessarily able to just snap their fingers and get that test, even if they wanted to.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         And though there has been a promise not to penalize employees for remaining home, for many, there is little choice given the demands of rent and financial situations.
                                         
                                         If that's something that you're relying on by going into work, that's a tough decision that you're being forced to make on your own.
                                         
                                         So we're going to be monitoring that as it all develops. And that's just a short glimpse at some
                                         
                                         of the actions that are happening across the country. But there are also many people who are
                                         
                                         facing furloughs and layoffs in various other industries. Akilah, what do we know about that
                                         
    
                                         so far? All right. So yesterday was a big day for furloughing retail employees. More than 300,000 retail workers were put on notice.
                                         
                                         So Gap, Macy's, and Kohl's have told employees
                                         
                                         not to come to work until sometime in the future
                                         
                                         when this is all over.
                                         
                                         And Gannett, which is a giant media company,
                                         
                                         they announced furloughs for newspaper employees
                                         
                                         that make over $38,000 a year.
                                         
                                         And, you know, their ad sales have been falling,
                                         
    
                                         so that's sort of what they pointed to.
                                         
                                         And some economists believe that nearly 40 million Americans
                                         
                                         are going to be unemployed by mid-April.
                                         
                                         So that, unfortunately, is the latest.
                                         
                                         Across the country, there are more than half a million people experiencing homelessness.
                                         
                                         And that is before the coronavirus crisis took hold.
                                         
                                         Now, in response, efforts to bring unhoused people inside have been supercharged with additional shelter space opening up.
                                         
                                         On top of that, states and localities have enacted various forms of eviction restrictions to prevent new people from falling into homelessness,
                                         
    
                                         though advocates say many of these protections are still too difficult to qualify for and just not expansive enough. Yeah, so today we're going to check in
                                         
                                         on the situation in Los Angeles. Chris Coe is the director of Homeless Initiatives for the United
                                         
                                         Way of LA. We spoke to him yesterday and started off by asking him about the main risks people who
                                         
                                         are living on the streets are facing right now in this moment? One, I would say hunger. People
                                         
                                         outside, a lot of them haven't eaten for days. Because if you think about the places they used
                                         
                                         to get food from, you know, food lines, soup kitchens, all the congregationally provided
                                         
                                         things, a lot of those have stopped. Other places that they used to, if they had food stamps or EBT
                                         
                                         cards, when they go to the grocery stores, a lot of the things they used to buy and stretch their budget with, they're not on the shelves anymore.
                                         
    
                                         And the things that are left, I've heard stories of there's a pot roast that's left lot harder for people right now who are outside
                                         
                                         because a lot of them rely on phones and a lot of them charge them inside in different places
                                         
                                         like libraries or Starbucks or other places that even if they're open, you can't just sit there charging.
                                         
                                         So a lot of people want the news, so we see people buying more radios and wanting more
                                         
                                         word of mouth information. And, you know, the most obvious one, there's no ability to self
                                         
                                         quarantine. You know, when people say get inside to a place by yourself, there is nowhere to go
                                         
                                         inside to. Right. Yeah. And in response to this, the city has suspended some
                                         
                                         municipal codes around parking tickets that can be helpful for people who may live in their cars.
                                         
    
                                         And the city isn't requiring people to take their tents down during the day. But what else is
                                         
                                         happening in Los Angeles to protect people who are unsheltered? Yeah, the public response has
                                         
                                         actually been tremendous. And the scale up in the public
                                         
                                         sector and the nonprofit sector. I mean, we're basically trying to do three years worth of work
                                         
                                         in a week. So that's on a few different levels. One for people who are sick with COVID. What do
                                         
                                         we do to make sure there's places inside hospitals and other places they can get help. Two people who are suspected of being COVID positive or exposed to someone who are,
                                         
                                         we're setting up isolation and quarantine sites, so 2,000 of those.
                                         
                                         Then there's people who are at risk, right?
                                         
    
                                         People who are 55 plus, because what we know is that if you're outside for more than,
                                         
                                         you know, five to 10 years, that takes off 10 to 30 years of your lifespan.
                                         
                                         So when we talk about 65 plus being at high risk, if you see a 40-year-old outside, you know, they have the life equivalency of being 65 plus.
                                         
                                         And so 55-year-olds or older who are at risk with the underlying health conditions. You know, the governor has put a lot
                                         
                                         of money into trying to lease up motels. So we're trying to get 5,000 motels. The Homeless Service
                                         
                                         Authority in the county is hard at work on that. And just anyone who wants to come inside. This is
                                         
                                         where the mayor has announced those 6,000 beds at the city's rec and park sites
                                         
                                         to make sure there are people who don't have symptoms yet can come safely inside.
                                         
    
                                         And the final one is people who are already inside, right?
                                         
                                         People who we were able to house in supportive housing,
                                         
                                         but now that they're being told to shelter inside,
                                         
                                         how do we make sure their daily food needs are met and just their other hygiene needs are met?
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         What happens when this crisis is over?
                                         
                                         Will the people who have been moved inside be told essentially, you know, go back onto the street?
                                         
                                         And more generally, how do you hope this could change the conversation and policy response to homelessness in the long term?
                                         
    
                                         I'll be really honest with you right now.
                                         
                                         I think a lot of our system is in this day-to-day, hour-by-hour mode.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         So we have this five- to ten-day period where it feels a little bit like we're building Noah's Ark before the flood.
                                         
                                         So that's what we're in right now. But once we get beyond that, and this is something we're
                                         
                                         doing at United Way, because we have a little bit more of that luxury to think to the next step,
                                         
                                         that has to be the bottom line. And that's once we bring people inside, we can't exit them back
                                         
                                         out to homelessness. So I think all of the action right now is bringing people inside. Hopefully that means we have five to 10,000 more people who have come inside. Um, but how do we make sure that we don't exit them back out to homelessness? Um, I think that can look like a few different ways. I mean, I think the motels that we're setting up, instead of just leasing them, what opportunities do we have to buy some
                                         
    
                                         of them outright and convert them into supportive housing so that people can just stay in there once
                                         
                                         they're there? Once we get beyond this weekend and the next weekend, how do we start laying out
                                         
                                         pathways for people to seek other forms of housing? But that has to be the main thing we think about. We want to solve this problem once
                                         
                                         and make sure that we don't just end people's homelessness three to six months at a time.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's a great point. Okay, so this is, you know, our listeners are really active and
                                         
                                         they want to help. You know, what is the biggest resource that you all are in need of right now? You know, how can we help people stay safe and healthy? You know, as you were talking
                                         
                                         about the need to like plug in a phone even, you know, and like, I remember in New York during
                                         
                                         Hurricane Sandy, people were laying out, you know, these like surge protectors and just had people,
                                         
    
                                         you know, coming by and using their power if they had it. So do you have other suggestions
                                         
                                         in ways that people can safely help? Yeah, absolutely. Safe is the operative word there
                                         
                                         on some of that. I mean, one, the obvious one is giving. I mean, the need is unbelievably huge
                                         
                                         right now in terms of just the financial needs of nonprofits and even our
                                         
                                         government level partners. So we at United Way, we have a pandemic relief fund that we've launched,
                                         
                                         but every community, there's a version of that. And, you know, to be sure all of those things are
                                         
                                         trying to plug in as best as possible. If you know someone on the street that you have developed a relationship with, um, that you're still seeing
                                         
                                         out there, please do still say hello. Um, but understand that you are as much a risk to their
                                         
    
                                         health as you may think they might be to you. Right. And so the, the hygiene guidelines that
                                         
                                         have been put out, please, you know, please take them seriously as you support our friends
                                         
                                         outside. What that means is if you're passing out anything, and you can, I mean, but wipe down,
                                         
                                         disinfect and wipe down all of those touch points, put them in the bag, what's needed outside right now, dried foods and water, battery-powered phone chargers, feminine
                                         
                                         hygiene products if you're seeing someone, if you're seeing women outside.
                                         
                                         And the final thing I'll say is lending your voice.
                                         
                                         We are in a moment, the federal stimulus that passed, a lot of that was left to local control
                                         
                                         of how that money would be doled up.
                                         
    
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         So a lot of that's going to be on the state and local governments to decide who's getting
                                         
                                         what.
                                         
                                         And your voice can represent the thousands of voices right now who don't have an outlet
                                         
                                         to say, we need support more than ever.
                                         
                                         And I think there's a question of, you know, if you think about the
                                         
                                         $1,200 stimulus check, it's going to people who have filed their taxes, which, you know,
                                         
                                         you don't need to have made an income to file your taxes. But again, a lot of our friends
                                         
    
                                         experiencing homelessness weren't even able to file for other tax credits. So that's why I think the other parts of the stimulus
                                         
                                         and saying, hey, the other parts that are more flexible,
                                         
                                         that can flow, you know, let's think of our friends
                                         
                                         who are not getting the stimulus check
                                         
                                         to be first in line for the other parts of the stimulus.
                                         
                                         That was Chris Ko from the United Way of Los Angeles.
                                         
                                         He also mentioned that if you have extra protective gear like masks or gloves,
                                         
                                         in addition to your local hospitals,
                                         
    
                                         why don't you consider donating them to your local homeless shelter?
                                         
                                         They could really use the help. It's Tuesday, WOD Squad.
                                         
                                         I miss you kids.
                                         
                                         I miss you kids something fierce, okay?
                                         
                                         But in any case, we're back, all right?
                                         
                                         We made it another day.
                                         
                                         It's Tuesday, and we're trying to find some chill
                                         
                                         in a world that is very much not
                                         
    
                                         by checking in on
                                         
                                         each other catching my drift great well Gideon what are you watching this week oh I got a lot
                                         
                                         I got a lot on the table uh Portrait of a Lady on Fire is on Hulu now uh I really got to see that
                                         
                                         that was that was on the list from from last year uh I also got a trial of Criterion so I can make
                                         
                                         Francois Truffaut refs on the show and be more insufferable.
                                         
                                         That'll be really, really sick.
                                         
                                         We'll decide later if I feel like paying for that.
                                         
                                         TBD.
                                         
    
                                         And then Ozark just dropped and you recommended it.
                                         
                                         I got this far.
                                         
                                         I should definitely continue.
                                         
                                         Yeah, man.
                                         
                                         I think that all of these things sound great.
                                         
                                         You're not wrong.
                                         
                                         Ozark is back.
                                         
                                         It's a good show.
                                         
    
                                         It is.
                                         
                                         It rules.
                                         
                                         Akilah, besides that, or maybe including that,
                                         
                                         what's on your watch list coming up?
                                         
                                         Yeah, so definitely the biggest thing has been Ozark.
                                         
                                         And I think seven or eight episodes in, it is so good.
                                         
                                         It's just so good.
                                         
                                         It's nuts.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, Julia Gardner earned that Emmy,
                                         
                                         and good for her.
                                         
                                         But yeah, I guess like,
                                         
                                         so I guess,
                                         
                                         I don't know if your Netflix was doing this,
                                         
                                         but it has like a one to 10 list
                                         
                                         of like what everyone else is watching now.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And so I've seen that a lot of people
                                         
                                         are watching that Madam C.J. Walker show,
                                         
                                         so I guess I want to like, you know,
                                         
                                         be caught up.
                                         
                                         I'm probably going to do that.
                                         
                                         So I came across that in the weirdest way,
                                         
                                         which was, I think it was LeBron tweeting
                                         
                                         about like walking into some room
                                         
    
                                         in his like palatial estate
                                         
                                         and his mom was watching that show.
                                         
                                         Oh, nice.
                                         
                                         And then he did like a,
                                         
                                         like kind of a plug for it or something.
                                         
                                         I don't know, but that's how I came across it.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, it seems it seems like a thing people are watching.
                                         
                                         LeBron's mom is an influencer.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, that was our quick temperature check.
                                         
                                         Do you owe someone a phone call?
                                         
                                         Ring them up.
                                         
                                         Ask them what's goody and maybe keep washing your hands and looking out for one another.
                                         
                                         We do this every day.
                                         
                                         Let's wrap up with some headlines.
                                         
                                         Headlines.
                                         
    
                                         The Justice Department is looking into recent stock trades made by at least one U.S. lawmaker.
                                         
                                         It's Republican Senator Richard Burr.
                                         
                                         And he's been investigated after he sold a significant number of stocks, some estimated to be worth up to $1.7 million in a single day last month.
                                         
                                         Now, the senator sits on two committees that had extensive briefings on the threat of the
                                         
                                         coronavirus, which is why eyebrows were raised when some of the shares he sold were in industries
                                         
                                         hit hard by the virus, like hotels and restaurants. Let me tell you, folks, these eyebrows are in the
                                         
                                         air. I rip mine off and I'm holding them up. Sky high. What the hell? Congress passed a law in 2012 banning its members from trading stocks
                                         
                                         based on info they get inside the Capitol. Now, Burr claims he made his trades based on public
                                         
    
                                         information. He's only one of several members of Congress who sold hundreds of thousands of
                                         
                                         dollars in stock just weeks before the markets crashed. TBD on whether the other lawmakers will
                                         
                                         be investigated. They better be. All right.
                                         
                                         A painting by Vincent van Gogh was stolen from a Dutch museum early yesterday.
                                         
                                         The perps took advantage of the museum's recent closure due to the pandemic.
                                         
                                         Multiple news outlets are calling the robbery a, quote,
                                         
                                         smash and grab because the thieves smashed through the glass doors and just walked out with the art.
                                         
                                         Love that.
                                         
    
                                         Definitely makes you nostalgic for a good old-fashioned heist. The stolen painting
                                         
                                         is called The Parsonage Garden at Noonan in Spring 1884. Very, very succinct title. And it's one of
                                         
                                         the gloomier Van Gogh pieces, but it is likely valued to be worth tens of millions of dollars.
                                         
                                         Not sure if the thieves were major Van Gogh gogh stands but yesterday also happened to be
                                         
                                         the artist's birthday lend us your ear i don't know there was a joke here about ears i yeah i
                                         
                                         i was waiting for them to to mail me one of theirs frankly but um time time will tell you've probably
                                         
                                         noticed that your local general store is sold out of hand sanitizer but what you didn't notice is
                                         
                                         that it's also sold out of infant chickens. Now, let's just assume all general stores sell chickens for this headline.
                                         
    
                                         Please go along with me. Apparently, chickens are a hot commodity in times of general uncertainty,
                                         
                                         like during stock market downturns or presidential elections. When you think of a chicken as a cute
                                         
                                         factory for nutritious eggs, it makes a lot of sense. National farm supply chains are selling
                                         
                                         out of chicks as fast as they get in, with some reporting sales up double from last year.
                                         
                                         New chicken owners also say the birds bring them comfort.
                                         
                                         FYI, I like my comfort over easy.
                                         
                                         I will be never reading anything that anybody passes to me ever again.
                                         
                                         This is it.
                                         
    
                                         Boo.
                                         
                                         I'm enamored by people who know how to make a coop.
                                         
                                         Good for them.
                                         
                                         A skill that I never learned.
                                         
                                         Shout out to coop makers.
                                         
                                         Well, this pandemic isn't stopping innovation.
                                         
                                         One man is using his work from home time to find creative new ways to get two magnets stuck up his nose and need doctors to get them out.
                                         
                                         A pioneer.
                                         
    
                                         All right. Dr. Daniel Reardon was designing a magnetized necklace that when combined with a matching
                                         
                                         bracelet would buzz when your hand got close to your face to fight the spread of COVID-19. The
                                         
                                         idea here, stop touching your damn face. Well, when the device didn't work right away, he started
                                         
                                         playing with the components. And before long, he had three magnets deep in his nose that could not
                                         
                                         be removed with pliers. God bless this man who, while fighting coronavirus, just risked getting
                                         
                                         seven kinds of super tetanus. Congrats on being featured in Jackass 4. Yes, and those are the
                                         
                                         headlines. And one more thing before we go. Throughout the week, Crooked hosts and staff
                                         
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                                         and we talked about hair care,
                                         
                                         how to stay sane on Twitter.
                                         
                                         It was fun.
                                         
                                         It was good.
                                         
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                                         i'm keela hughes i'm gideon resnick and stop playing with those magnets cut it out you're
                                         
                                         gonna poke your eye out and you're gonna it's not what they're for. You're going to pull your nose off of your face, you rascal.
                                         
    
                                         Rascal.
                                         
                                         He said it.
                                         
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