What Now? with Trevor Noah - South Africa Sessions: Staring Down Death Twice in One Week ft. Khaya Dlanga

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

Why do your shoes always fly off in a car accident? Trevor, Eugene, and Khaya chase that question straight into Eugene’s own wild motorbike crash story, involving a T-bone, a second accident two days later, and somehow living to tell the tale. From there, the conversation takes its usual unexpected turns, from South African taxi stickers and quick funerals to a rumor involving Stevie Wonder and Nelson Mandela. And the guys take a moment to remember Dolly Parton, reflecting on the music, humor, and humanity that made her so beloved. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I'm pretty certain In America People Claps once The thing I get to In the context Yeah, it's to be like Okay, do the South African one

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yeah but it's like derails meetings I'm not even lying it completely throws everything off save it for when you testify in Congress that is funny that would be dope actually That'd be amazing. Sitting in front of the senators there. Yeah.

And Mr. Noah, where did the money go? So, okay, the money came in, eh? Next thing you know, yad. Then they're like, wait, wait, hold on. That's your car. That's your partner. Next thing, debit order. Next thing, car.

Next thing. Next thing. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me not like you guys, eh. Senator. International sweeps. Blah. International sleep.

Yeah, next thing. That's going to last forever, Senator. Next thing, yadze. I, Senator, let me tell you something. I regret that I stole that money. Only because I regret I didn't steal more. You know, actually, can ask you a question because you guys keep up with this. Is the Madlanga Commission, because in America, when you testify in front of the Senate,

almost nothing happens afterwards every time. Yeah, I've never really heard something happening. No, almost nothing happens. when the big banks came and testified after after the recession when they created that you know the recession with the default house what was it called default

did what swap? Yeah mortgage swap credit swap whatever yeah I forgot it's called but yes yeah when they did that yes they went and testified and then nothing too big to fail when

when the social media giants went to testifying nothing happens to those guys nothing nothing happened you just go there and testify I think I think it's performing of accountability without actually the consequences of accountability. And I think that's what they do. Yeah.

So I'm asking, do our commissions have teeth? Let's say, yes, do they have teeth? Yeah, people have been arrested. There's a guy. Yeah. There's one guy. I think who's been arrested seven times. Well, this is no.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean he's been arrested seven times? What do you mean he's been arrested seven times? He's been arrested bail. Then another case. And then another case. Someone else tested lies in the commission. You're lying.

You're lying. He is implicated again. Bam, arrested again. They fetch him again. Put him in a car. Put him in a car. Again. Like one.

Again like one. He gets bail. Two, three, four. Five now. Number five. Number five. Five different cases. Do they not go at some point?

I mean, just stay. Just stay. And the cop who comes to arrest him always wears the same uniform. He wears a red jumpsuit. Wait, is it televised? With a hat. Yes. You guys are lying

As shangana as you can get A cop that arrested him here But he shana Red jumpsuit with like a Red hat that Like goes here And then he hit a smoke break With the cameras waiting for him to

Wait a minute Okay so they bring cameras Yes With the police Yes So the news is told ahead of time We're going to arrest this guy And then they come there

And then arrest the person Yeah And I think this time around He even had like When it comes out of the van Right the back of the van. I think he's got like this caftine as well.

And he's just, he's like out here's. Because now he knows, he knows the process. Wait, so he's got a lunchbox? Yeah, like a family meal bag. Yeah, the family meal bag. And he's smiling because he's used to. Dressed warm. No belt buckle.

No strings. Wearing slipping shoes. Yeah. Dressed already for prison. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So arrested seven times. But then does that mean something's going to happen? Well, there are cases that are literally being. going to process through the courts right now. Yeah, but I'm saying, have we... Because the last big one was, it was a Zondo commission, right? There was a waste of money. So nothing happened.

I don't think it was. What, that guys, nothing really happened. No, but you only got... Oh, so this is... No, but guys, those are very different. Wait, so Mislanga is the better call soul of Zondo's breaking bed. 100%. Yes.

So now you must remember that at Zondo, it was dead capture. Zondo writes a report. Wait, wait, just to refresh my memory. So, okay, the first commission we had in this country was, or the big one, the Zonda one, was because the Gupta family, was that family from India. Yeah.

Yeah, but they were part of it. Yeah, they're the big ones. And a group of other people. Yeah. We had found that the president or people around them had sold the country to them essentially. Yes. Through parastatus. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they had like liquidated the country and sold it to these people essentially. Power utilities, et cetera, et cetera. Trains. Trains. That's why like our infrastructure, was part of our infrastructure was screwed. Okay? That's what that was for.

Yes. And then what happened? So after the commission, the commissioner must write a report. Yeah. So now documents are compiled, the report, recommendations for people to be charged. Everything happened. Yeah. Then nothing happened.

But for that to happen, Pele, remember, you must have the National Prosecuting Authority. Okay. They must press charges. Okay, so the main prosecutor. Actually, something did happen. Yes. What happened? I remember now.

They arrested Jacob Ghege-Sazone. No, but they're asking for defiance, not for state capture. Okay, okay. Okay, that is also true. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. That's similar. You see, that's what I mean in America as well.

You'll, like now, you saw Anthony Fauci. Oh, yeah. He's now in more trouble for not testifying than for what he did or didn't do. They're just like, no, we're coming off to you for not testifying. Yeah, but so I'm going to say, Zondo writes a report. Yeah. Makes recommendations. sends the recommendation to the NPA.

He said national prosecuting authority, Department of Justice, basically. Genanla, prosecute these people. Now, there, the state prosecutors, that's where they all live. But then it turns out, to Guti, there was no willingness to prosecute in the first place. Enter Mqanaz. Mqanaz. He's like, no, the police are captured. Not only the police, their judiciary.

Okay, you guys are building the story nicely from me. Is Mqanazi the guy that came out? The press conference. The press conference. Yo, this was one of those gangster things I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just saw a video where this top cop came out with no warning, nothing.

No Sunday. We were chilling. Everyone was chilling. That Sunday was the best. Best Sunday of my laugh. Dude, and that guy is the one. He just came out and he held a press conference and he said by himself. He was like, guys, the police are corrupt.

Yeah. The people the police report to are corrupt. I can't report this to my superiors because they're corrupt. And the people under me are corrupt. and the people to the sides of me are corrupt. My wife is corrupt. And the wife was like, yeah, eh, yeah. And then it's that the judges are corrupt.

The judges are corrupt. The lawyers are corrupt. Yeah. The prosecutors are corrupt. So this all came from that. It came from. No ways. So when they dig deep at IDAC,

which is supposed to investigate Malfi since in the police. Yeah. And the NPA, they find out these people, when cohuts, not to prosecute people. So those cases, the state capture. They're the ones who are supposed to prosecute them. They didn't. And then Napa cartels were involved now.

drugs coming in the country. What do you mean, like, South African cartels? Yeah, like we have American drug cartels. No, man. What are you guys are being gone for like a few years? What's happening here, man? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I want you to tell you.

I want you to tell me. Let me tell you as, I feel like you guys had my commission. What's been happening here, guys? Oh, I, I, I, I, I can, I, I, and that's how people can have their, yeah. What are they say? I revoke, I revoke what, I invoke my right to remain silent. Yeah, that's what about you said.

You can't invoke that one. Why not? I'm not here. We don't have the Fifth Amendment. So in America, you can. It's actually the 35th in South Africa. 35th. We have it.

It's the 35th. But you say the right to remain silent. Yeah, not to incriminate yourself. Yeah, that one, you can only invoke the right not to incriminate yourself if there's a criminal case against you. Okay. So you have to say, I'm accused for this thing and I'm being prosecuted. Then you can't.

But the right to remain silent only works when you are being arrested. So as you're being arrested, you can say, I have a right to remain silent. Not discriminated myself, yes. No. The right to remain silent is when you are being arrested. It doesn't stop people from arresting you. Yeah.

It just stops them from questioning you. Oh, okay. Because remember that when you're being arrested, even someone saying to you, Ah, when Akaya, why did you do that? Okay, got it. And then you reply. Yeah. That's already part of your statement.

Yes, that's why you're not, because it's like, it's against, what your counsel might have told you to say or not say. You must just keep quiet. But it's different if you're in like court now. In court, you can say I invoke the right not to incriminate myself. However, even then. Okay, but now guys, can we? Even then there's a blanket.

But wait, can we get something very? Yeah, but can we talk about this for a second? Yeah. Like, okay, here we don't have juries. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. If I was on a jury. You know, let me tell you something.

I wish South Africa had juries. Me too. South African juries would be the most gangster juries in the world. Yeah. in the world. Because if you, have you seen footage of American juries?

Yeah. They just sit there. Sometimes they scribble sometimes they're right. Here in South Africa we'd have people be like, Yo. Hey!

Glems, I. Aye. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ay. Yeah.

You. Ha. That's very true. That is. But we've, we've had the version of that with, I call it legal Twitter. Yeah,

I'm listening. When those people that speak on whatever is happening at the commission, we have great minds there. Oh, that's true. I mean, we're all graduated with LLP's cum laude. It's so funny. Even I'm going to a graduation this afternoon of my own online. You're so funny?

It's so funny. And I should say this, right? There is, I saw a comment on Twitter yesterday. Because you guys remember, like, yes, the Springboks were playing, the all blacks. Yeah, yeah. And those planes, you know. And. My man.

Okay. Say your question. So say, A comment. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? The planes and then? No, we'll come back to the plane.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, come back. Yeah. Yeah. So this comment says, this guy says, okay, today we are all pilots. Tomorrow we'll all go back to being lawyers.

We're good at this thing. Okay, but yeah. I am not a pilot. But you know what I am? I'm so relieved, yes. I am a driver. And as a driver, I aim to avoid obstacles.

Yeah. I'm just saying, yeah, I was unaware that it is safe and normal to fly through like air. No, the puff of what-d-wats. The green poof, plume of smoke.

Here's my thing You know the way those planes flew over the stadium Yeah I wouldn't have thought Oh they're high they're low They're not It's because that one flew through The plume and then made a turn

And like a hard turn Yeah I won't like To me that didn't look like it was The correct height It was the correct height maybe for the stadium Because it didn't hit the stadium Yeah

Yeah But I don't know that anyone would plan Would plan to fly through plumes Of pink smoke That's looked like the most expensive gender reveal in his theater. That's what that thing looked like. Did you see that thing?

Did you see that thing? That's true, right? I mean, like, that, yeah, it's so funny. When I was watching the game, like on TV Live, and I was like, and I was like, and Sasha was just about to kick off and then they told him to wait because the flyover was, they were still waiting for the plane, right? And then I was like, ah, I remember making this comment.

It's like, ah, these guys are late, you know, as the plane is they're coming through. And I saw nothing wrong. I was like, yeah. Because I'm used to it, right? It happens. But that I've never seen. Have you ever seen them fly that low? Yeah, the fly over is very low.

I have actually a picture when like global citizens. But then like you are backstage so you haven't seen this. But one flew and it's like it feels like it's so close. It's so low. It's just our thing in South Africa. It's almost like you can just touch it. Like I was there. I think I can touch this thing.

I think this might have been. actually the smallest flyover plane-wise. Because those were embryos, maybe that's why they could fly so low because they were embryos. They weren't 747. Yeah, they weren't 747-7-4-7 or 7-37. But isn't the first time we were flying two?

Yeah, because they were small. Yes, because they always fly one. Because I think it's... And I think that's not made out of... Because this is air link. Air link, yeah. It's not a... Air Link is like a regional carrier.

It's not a long haul international carrier. Yeah. So they were like, We're going to show you. We're still talking about them. But I think the turn is what. I mean, hey, guys, they're like, high risk, high reward.

But I think it's the turn that got people talking. If he had gone through the plume, it's not they turned. Do not that they're completely, they're saying it's so low. They're saying, I don't know what feet are. But in America, they're saying, what is it like? They said 50 feet. 50 feet. Which is 14 meters, 14 meters.

From like. No, you can't. The roof of the stadium. Because the plane, they have to tell you where the plane, every plane you know it's high. The flight plan has to. Yeah, but guys, traffic control in Cape Town would have never approved that height if it wasn't okay. Within the legal limit.

You understand what I'm saying? That's not what people are arguing. People are saying, did those pilots hit the correct height? Yeah, but there's no way that they could not. What do you mean? Because they are flying a machine that tells them, 10,000, 5,000. My man, have you heard of plane pressures? Yeah, but there's this guy, you're going to act like.

But there's no turns there. Week in and week out, there are professional pilots who fly those, like, those jet exhibition things. And like every few months, there's a crash. Okay, if there was one thing. Every few months, there's those pilots who do like a trick and something. And they fly past the people. There was the one, did you see the one where they did the supersonic boom? You know, when they go like, yeah, yeah.

And they did it too close to the people. Yeah. I like that. Blue kids away, everything. You know, when things go flying, bro. People discovered their fathers were actually bald. If I was a kid. If I was a kid.

Wait Wait, out Oh my god Yo, that shit As solid boob is the enemy of a two-paced Don't play games I want to divorce You know there's some bits

Where you're like, I wish I thought of that one Wait If it was a 737-747 Yeah Flying on its own Yes Then that happened Butti-Bati it went too low

I would believe two planes going low at the same time. Smaller ones. It's not too small. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm saying it couldn't have been a mistake. Oh, you're saying, okay, you're saying because two were at the same height. Yes.

Okay, then I'm with you. Yeah. Then you, I risk, you actually thank you. Yeah. This commission. I'll write a report. I agree with Eugene. Fantastic argument.

I'm in with you. But also like another thing for me. The odds of two professional pilots or cabins making the same mistake. With co-pilots on board. No, no, no, no. No, no. There's four people now. I'm completely in agreement with you now.

And 100% You should say this. Remember outliers Malcolm Glado. So in his book there, he specifically speaks actually about safety protocols and all that when it comes to airlines. Because he was talking about like South Korea used to have like

insane number of crashes. And one of the reasons that happened was because the pilots, the co-pilots, because of the hierarchy structure, you know, hierarchy. Yes, yes, yes. The co-pilot, you were not allowed to tell your boss

by chef captain you're going to kill us now so you have to imply and they must figure out what you're trying to say so you can't really tell Jong are you going to kill us right

but then and they found that the countries that had hierarchy high rates of hierarchy you were more likely crashes than countries that did not and South Africa

flat structure yeah South Africa South Africa does not It's not that we don't respect authority. We question authority. And because South Africa questions authority, we have one of the lowest fatalities in the world. And you know what?

Because here are our co-pilot. Yeah. Forget our co-pilot. Yeah, pilot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mountain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Check, check, check, check, check, check. Okay, yeah. You're a lot, yeah. Shouting at the driver. Kumido nimbus. Kumbo nimbus. Okay, you saw it, you saw it. Okay, sharp.

I'm just making sure. Yeah. Because the last. Have you ever seen, do you remember in taxis? There was literally a sticker that said there was, because you remember the taxi drivers had the stickers. There was the, to know me does not mean you must not pay. Yeah. Then there was the when days are dark, friends are few.

Then there was the other one. I love your firm, I love your firm, but not on my window. Yeah. And then one of the other ones. This taxi can stop anywhere at any time. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. outside. This taxi can stop anywhere. I think we still need anything today.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was one that used to say it was something to the effect of just because you are in the front seat, seeing something with me does not mean you are driving this taxi. It was something so different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Because people in the front seat would always be like, because now you're sitting right next to the taxi driver.

And remember, taxis in South Africa, they're not like normal cars in that there's no hood. There's no It's just like Yeah So it's like being in the front seat Of a roller coaster Yeah actually

You know what I mean So everything's here So then everyone next to the taxi driver Would be like Yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah Then taxi drivers

Like nah bra Hey just because you're sitting here Doesn't mean you're driving So they'll put that stick on the dashboard Yeah For the passenger in front There were lots of them Remember there was the other one

That says My name is not donkey driver Yes You don't remember these stickers Bro there were so many Oh they could have made a killing There was so, we could have back in the day. Oh, there were so many.

And they were amazing. That was like some of the first comedy I learned actually in my life was the stickers that I saw in taxis. Because as a child, I used to look at them and be like, yo, if you asked me when I was five or six years old, who's your favorite comedian? I'd say the stickers on taxis. Best gags I've ever seen in my life.

Bro, remember the one. Wait, did you not take taxes? No, all the time. But do you remember? I mean, when I got to a taxi, I minded my business. There was even a sticker for that. I made sure. Do you remember there was a, so you had stickers that went in all different places, right?

So there were stickers that were specifically for the front passengers. Yes. There were stickers that were above the door, above the door. Then there were stickers that were at the overhead facing all the passengers. Then there were stickers outside on the back of the taxi for people behind the taxi. The stickers that were in the front, those were generally geared towards the front passengers telling you a few things. So, for instance, it was. You must count the money.

Yes, you're not driving. You're counting. Yeah. Then there was another one. which was, oh, it was the one of no fat people allowed. Yes. Remember that one? Yeah, no fat people.

You don't remember the sticker. They said no fat people in the France. You don't remember that sticker. Too low at the stadium. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great way. We're going to start saying that. My man, you remember it.

So there was a sticker and it had two fat people. Yeah. And the driver like this. I remember this so well. And then the sticker basically was like, Yo, bro, you must know whether you sit in the front seat or not. You must know yourself. Yes.

To thine all self be true. They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You came out your house knowing your weight. Hey, ma'am. Don't add surprise here at the front. Yeah, yeah. So like they, so they had, so those were all the stickers in the front. They were, there were a few more.

So that, yeah, but they're slamming the door and it was above the door. Yeah. Yes. So it was something to the effect of. Those are you texts. No, man, what did it say? No. No.

Because remember my high age, the doors used to fall out. No, I know, I'm joking. I'm just saying that. Remember, like, because those Texas guys, the freaking doors fell out all the time. But that's why they said don't bang the door. If you slam it, yeah, poor, but the problem was that like, the door would fall off. But then there were some, if it didn't slam it, the door couldn't close. Yes.

So no, no, no, no, there's technique. There's technique. So if you slam the door, it falls off. Okay. So what you do with the bad ones is you're supposed to slide hard from the beginning. While pushing. But at the end, you must push it in. Yeah, I remember.

I remember the technique. I remember. Yeah. Now people would just slam forward. Then it would derail. And then the door would fold off. And then the funniest is they would just leave. Those people never stayed out.

Who would? And then if you're sitting by the door, it's your job now. Yeah, to flip foot foot. And now's the shittiest seat. And now that rope. Remember that rope. Yeah. Now there's a rope.

That's rope. Now the rope is your responsibility. Now the taxi driver is telling you pull the rope so that you can now get the door back on. Now you're lifting a door. Brat, at this point, you're 10 years old. What am I doing with my life? And you're being shouted over the shoulder. You don't know, so,

Hey, why I don't know to laugh. Yeah. So there was, so there were those ones. And then there was the stickers on the windows that gave you general etiquette. There was another one about speaking loud. I know. I don't remember. There was a sticker.

There was also a music one. Yes. Yes. But like, but like, but like, you can request. Yes. Don't request music. Don't request music. And then there was a.

And people would tell the taxi driver and say, oh, can you play this song? Yeah, no. It's like, listen, I'm not a DJ. I'm a driver. There were a lot of them. Simi, can you look them up and see if you can find any? The exit one at the back. No one has ever used that emergency exit.

Okay, but you tell me, because I used to look at this all the time as a kid, you tell me, that thing says kick. My man, look how I'm sitting now. And you're sitting, this is more space than I've ever had in the backseat of a taxi. Fact. Okay. Yeah. Now.

And where your head is, is where the emergency exit. The window starts here. Now, you tell me. Yeah. In what world, some shit goes down. So now we're in the taxi. We're there. Ch-c-c-c-cuh-cuh-cog.

Now I'm there. We can't get out the front. Hey, go out the back side. Hey, put my emergency exit. Kick here. There's no hammer. There's no, they didn't give you anything. Yeah.

They said, kick here. Guys, not punch, not header, not push. It said kick here. Who? My man, what gently life am I living that I'm going to kick this window behind? Guys, this, the seat was here. Yeah, I know right there. Also, yes, now that you say that, man, this kicking thing.

Why is it that when there's a kayak accident used, shoes are everywhere? Yeah. This is a good question. car accident. Even if you get bumped by a car. Yeah, shoes, but talks are on. Shoes are always like, yeah. Yeah, shoes leave the chat first.

Yeah. Why? I've never known. I think it's because maybe as people, when we're in like a very, very, whenever humans are in a situation. No, whenever humans are in like a very, like, exciting, stressful situation,

I think our feet like do things. Ah, nah. I'm telling you. Every accident, there's shoes, every, strew. Yes. Yes. I've always wanted to use that word. You use it correctly.

Stroon, everyone. all sorts, shoes. You're not wrong. Shoes with no socks. You're not wrong. Why? And I'm saying, and I'm saying it's because, I'm saying it's because like you do like a,

there's like a thing that you do. They just don't tie their shoelaces properly. My man, why are you blaming them now? No, it's the shoe laces. So you think every time people are just running around without tight shoe laces? I think so. I really think people are not getting their proper shoe laces.

It makes no sense. Wait, if it was one type of shoe. Yeah. that just flies out. Eugene is completely correct. Pella, there you see flip-flops. You see pumps. No, Eugene's not lying.

Yeah, but remember, whenever you are stressed, your toes are too big? The shoes are either too big? No, no, no. Oh. So you say accidents expose your shoe games. Exactly. No, but remember this.

Whenever you are tense, your toes do that turbo holding onto your shoes. Yeah. In an accident, high impact, your toes are already doing that. automatically. That's your butt clinch for your feet. Like this thing for your toes

is butt clinch for your you understand what I'm saying? But maybe that action pulls the foot out of the shoe. No, but if my shoes are too big and I do this, my shoe stay. Yeah, it's a difficult one. I don't know. I mean, my mom used to tell me that all the time. But she'd say, like, that's why you must make sure you wear

socks that have no holes and clean underwear. Then she's like, because if you get bumped by a car, those are the two things that are going to show. Your underwear, then I was like, Mom, what are you telling me here? Then she said in an accident, I'm not even joking. She'd say in an accident, she'd say,

everybody's going to see your socks because your shoes come off. And then she was like, and everyone's going to see your underwear. Because that's another thing. When you get hit by a car, for some reason, your pants have always come here

and then your ass is exposed. It's true, though. Have you ever been hit by a car? No, Jesus. Have you? Have you? No, no, never. I've been hit in a bike accident, yes.

Motorbike? Yeah, yeah. When was this? Wait, you're riding. Two years ago, a day after my birthday. You're lying. You didn't tell me. He was embarrassed.

When that rough money comes in, my man, there will be signs. Road incident fun. There will be signs, tire. Wait. Are you being serious? Yeah. How did it happen? Can we first deal with this one?

Yeah. Okay, we'll come back to it. I think I was embarrassed. No, no, no. It was a near, oh, okay, you want to know what happened. No, really. Yeah. So I was writing.

Dude, we've written for years. You never told me that story. Or we rode for years, I should say. Yeah. Because, you know, also, you never tell these things because all praise to the almighty Allah. If it wasn't for him. What happened, bro? So I rode out normal day in the afternoon.

Came out. Cedar. Went at the back behind this place. Yeah. I hope me la Nal. See that road where. Yeah. Pass heron.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Went me and, so I'm like, oh, it's clear, I can go. So it's two lanes going this way. Two lanes going that way. Yeah. You know if there's one thing about

squatter camps and informal settlement? It's called informal for a reason. Okay, I see. Okay. For many years I've been disdain. Guys, defending you from informal. There's nothing formal about what that person did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kaya, there was no robot, there was no stop sign. There was nothing. Came out of that school. It's a teacher. Came out Oh no. In a red in a red Haval SUV.

Oh no. So I've already passed Heron. Yeah. Took the right turn. So I'm like, ah, no, I'm fine here. So I'm like, meep, meh. So I'm like, ah, 120. I'm like, but I can see far as far as the I could see.

Because I'm going. Yeah. Duct in everything. You know, when you tucked in everything. This car comes out of nowhere. Goes on the road. Slowly. On the lane that I'm coming on.

No, but came. fast and then stop in the middle. They always stop in the middle of the road. Because she's trying to go the opposite direction. So the car's coming this way. She waited for them. The other side of the two lane. In that situation pair, there's only two things you can.

There's two things involved. There are two things involved. So wait. So then the car flies out. So the car pulls up. Yeah. Then I'm thinking this person is going to stop. So I'm on this far right lane right in the middle of between the two borders.

Oh my goodness. So I swerve to the right left thinking that they're obviously going to. I'm making space. So they slam the brakes because it's a truck coming this way. Oh my goodness. So then I'm like, because you know if you, so if you lock the rear brake,

the front becomes light. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you, so you must trail break basically. So you must hit the front. Yeah, and then. So hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, hope, so I'm hoping, hoping, I'm hoping.

But everything is happening in slow motion. Angels were there. My grandfather was there. Everyone I knew and loved was there. All singing. I was like, guys, why are you guys sing the same language? My cool, I didn't go me Zimna and La Bang welcome. Smell my breath inside the helmet.

I knew it was. But then I knew I was still alive when I could smell my... Because I was like, if I'm dead, you knew a range of any breath. Wait, there was the next thing you, you, like, experienced. No, no, I'm lying about that part. Everything was just... No, everything was just in slow motion. Yeah.

Because I'm like, and then... And then... Bha! Head on. Tebow in the camera. Yeah. So you T-bone the car? T-bone and I fly over.

Somersault one. Summer salt two. Damn. Lend on my head. On my back. Pass out. Now I'm on the side of oncoming traffic. So I can't hear the beer.

But there's guys saying, you know, that's why I'll never support informal small businesses again. No. Oh my God. Oh, your beef. Your beef. You're taking some scopa as, yeah. They were minding their table.

Never mind me. I was lying on hot tar. This is the 16th of November. Two days after my day after my birth, 16th of November, I'm lying in a hot tar. These guys were minding their business. So finally I come to inside my helmet.

I'm like, oh, what's going on? Then I'm like, why am I looking at the sky? Why am I hot here? I get up, bike is teabone to the car Yeah, yeah, yeah. The driver's side. The bike is in the car.

Yeah, it went in. Pelangit went, it went, cropper. Yeah. The driver's out, came out. She came out on the other side. Now she's towering over me as a teacher. I know she's wearing those teacher skirts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's asking me questions about what was I thinking? I don't have time to think now. Yeah, she asked me, what were you thinking? And I'm like, I don't know who you are. I don't know what's going on. And why is my person. bathe so hard. Ganty, an accident had happened.

Wow. So I look around, I'm finally going, okay, let me do check. Because I need to know the rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must first check if your neck is fine. Because you can cause more damage. So I try to move my feet first,

and I'm like, okay, feet can move. Yeah. I'm like, hands can move. Then I'm like, okay, I'm going to try twist my back without turning my neck. Twist my back, twist my back. I'm like, I'm grand. Then I, get up.

Undertaker's time. Yeah. Then where I am versus where the bike is. Maybe they're where the tables are. That's where the bike is. and the car. So I went all the way opposite direction of oncoming traffic. I get up.

Then I'm all good again. Where were your shoes? I'm like, Clebs one. Yeah, dude, I'm glad you're okay, though. Yeah, I'm also glad I'm okay. So it's the helmet that obviously, helped you as well.

I think it was God. I think it was the fall. Because you hit your head first like, yeah, but hit the helmet. Yeah. Quang! And then. You also wearing jackets.

Yeah, jacket and everything. But those things are not helped, the thing is if you break your fall properly on a bike, you survive. That's true. So mostly with motorbike accidents, people don't get killed by the fall. They get killed by cars running over them after the fall.

They say you don't get killed by the accident. You get killed by what happens after the accident. Like hitting the wall or hitting it. another car or hitting something. Orcas riding over you after you fallen. Oh my. So I survived. I got up and then two days later I was going to a shoot.

I was in the back of an Uber relaxing minding my business. Wah-baba. Ah? The car was rammed at the back. No. I flew. I hit the drivers. No.

I don't want to laugh what you're like. Are you serious? Are you serious? You know? Yo, bro. Are you serious? And, Kyle, you know how production managers care about the shoot only? I'm like, guys, I met an accident.

He's like, yeah. So we are fig. Mind you. No, when you're lying? I'm telling you. No. Oh, my goodness. A week later, I was like, no, I'm fine.

I'm fine. I can feel numbness on my back. Numbness on my back. I'm like, no, I'm not fine. Went for a scandal. They were like, oh, I've got an acute pinched nerve. What happened here? It was the accident.

And then the... Malters light by... Yeah. They're being rammed from the back. Too light. In two days. If you were telling this to your American friends, they'd be like, man, Eugene, you were super unlucky.

If you tell me to your African friends, they'll be like, somebody was trying to kill you. There is some witchcraft somewhere in their world and somebody was trying to kill you. I hope you prayed after that. I was like, there's no way you survive something like that. You think everything is normal.

Don't press anything. We've got more. What now? After this. The reason your life flashes before your eyes, before you die, is because your brain is searching for any memory that could save you from this moment.

Which makes me think when you die, do you know it's happening? When you die, do you know you're dying or do you know you're dead? Let's say for example, you die in your sleep. You see when people say people die, peacefully in their sleep. You've slept and you've remembered that you were sleeping. When you wake up, you're like, oh, there was this one time I went to go pee. Yeah. When you die while you are asleep, when do you know as a sleeping person that you're dead?

You know what? Great person to answer that would have been Jesus. John. He's the only person who came back from the head. He came back. You know about that thing? No one never saw him walking out of there. You're not wrong, Kate.

But no one. No one saw him. It would have been great if people were just a little more curious about those kinds of things. Just tell me, Chip. Oh, dude, so what? No, no. Good to have you back. Yeah.

Really good to have you back. That was crazy. Yes, because Judas. Yo. I mean, Yo. I mean, we knew he was suss. But damn, bro.

Damn, wow. Judas. Because look, if, if, but listen, I have a question. Like, right afterwards, where, where are you? Like, where were you for those three days? How does it feel? So when he died, like, how did it feel? Like, how did you know my friend Eugene wants to know?

Yeah, because here's how I think. You know, I heard something the other day. I don't know where it was. It was really, it was just really fun and fascinating. might have been in an anime I was watching or something but they were like the reason your life flashes before your eyes before you die is because

your brain is searching for any memory that could save you from this moment Oh you're scrolling through your archives Like literally your that is your final survival instinct So just before you die your body's like everything going like wait wait wait wait Is there a way to escape this? Is there something I've learned somewhere in my life that can help me escape this

It was just a hypothesis And I like it So me, there's two things that happen Yeah I go to the bathroom at night And then also my nose gets dry So I usually put like Vaseline in my nose

Okay That's how I know I'm still alive Okay Uh I'm like Kaya the day You're what The day my nose feels moisturized

Throughout the night I don't need to put Vaseline To make sure This is your I don't need to go pee This is his What's it called again? This is your inception

Yes This is your inception That's your totem Yes Jeanne is like When my nose is not dry I'll know I'll know

This is not real Even on a flight I'm like Ah ha ha And I'm like Yes This is sharp Because the day

The day throughout the night Fully moisturise No dry You know that dry part the perk of your sinus. Yeah, yeah. I know exactly which part. You'll know you've moved on.

Yeah, I'll know. The day I'm breathing easy. I'm moisturised. Man, you know what to be so funny to do to Eugene. Don't prank him. To prank him. We find ways sleeping. We hide humidifiers.

Extra humidifiers. We make him sleep through the whole night, moisturized. Then he wakes up the next day being like, ah, I guess I'm dead. And then we just moves through the world. He'll see Eugene running naked. He can see me

Damn You just came back from a funeral Didn't you? Yes, yes in Switzerland How was it? I said like it was a gig. Sorry, that's not funny

It was fantastic No I didn't mean it like that I didn't mean it like that at all What a great shit You know, black people will say Hey, Simbegis What else could you have done?

No, but that's what I mean So it's hard to ask it in English That's true, I don't to me Because how was it Okay, is the correct is the correct translation. Yes. But if you say it in Veneck, if you say like in Zulu,

if you go like Benjjan or like. Begenja. Yeah. Like you go. Yeah. It's more like how did it unfold? How did it turn out to be? You know, as opposed to like, how was it?

Because what to say is that usually people say like, Simbeki-il, which we have put him. Yes. Or her, the direct translation. Yes. Right. But actually, because I'd never been to a funeral service like that. in my entire life.

Why? What was different? Because Eswitini. There was a DJ. Come on. If you're ready to see this casket going to the ground, let me hear you make some noise. Bing, bang,

be, if we if we if we, if we, if we're going to get us bad at that country. Go to anywhere. If he is, he ain't Ibi, Ibe,

if it's going nowhere. But he is, though. Dude, did. Yeah. Sorry, so what was different? So the funeral service is there. you have to be buried before sunrise, before the sunrises.

Or like in Limpobu. And not only that. So which meant supposed to be like at 4 in the morning. Okay. Right. And it's like an hour, right? The service. The service, you know, arrived.

Very efficient. Very efficient. Only the people spoke was someone read the obituary. Okay. And there was a family member who, spoke. Yeah. Um, fundy.

That was it. Walked out. We went to the graveyard and an hour done. I'm not mad at that. I mean, I was very, I was, and I was thinking, we were having breakfast like at eight, but breakfast, full on. We're having day to farm for breakfast. You're having daytime food.

Yeah, we're having daytime funeral food for breakfast. Yeah. Yes, that's what we're having, which was a bit. I was like, oh, this is, this is. We know where Kyle was like, because that's one of those weird situations where you've got to be like, guys, guys, guys, you're killing me here. Wait, sorry, let me rephrase. What I mean is I can't live like this. Sorry, let me rephrase.

Guys, what I mean? It has, it's a true. Yeah. It's very interesting. And I remember thinking, I was like, in the Eastern Cape, we're already having breakfast. It did not have started. The funeral then started by. So, did you, did you prefer it?

Or did you? Yeah. That's what? How did you? How did you? I did not. You know, like, you know, you know, made my friend rest in peace.

I didn't appreciate waking up so early. I was like, why? I said this you can do for him. I was like, hey, this is like, wake up. But they accommodated, I think, people from out of town. They actually made the service at six rather than four o'clock. Just for that. Yeah, just for that.

But otherwise, I mean, I did appreciate how quickly everything happened. because when I think about hours like back in the Eastern Cape or and they go on forever like for a long long time. So you see I'm torn on that because I think both have their merits. So I think

a short and efficient funeral is great if you're not particularly close to the person. Right. But like I remember from my grandmother's funeral it was weird because I watched my grandmother's funeral online because it was during COVID. right so I couldn't travel for it and then the comments open

if they were it would have been amazing actually that would have been amazing because I would have been there in the comments RIPGGG no who's that in row three yo my man should also be in a buck soon man no I actually wasn't so but I had to watch it which was very it was very surreal experience

it's the most surreal experience I've ever had because I was watching people I know and my family but in a screen at home because you're at home watching yeah so I'm watching them and I'm like you know

but what I noticed was because it was long it was like four hours maybe yeah four hour service did you make snacks in between yeah I took breaks I was I that was the part that I did enjoy

how did you time when to go pee make a sandwich when who was talking or what was probably the thing because you can come back singing

no singing actually Kyle is right singing is an easy one because what would happen is people would speak. You know, like my grandmother's friends would come. But then in the middle of while they're speaking, the person would start singing. You know, so they'd start a song. They'd be like, ah, you know, when I met Francis, we were this old and we lived together. And this was our time.

And the first time she helped me. And this is how we knew each other and what, what, what, what, you know what? And then the person would stop. And they'd be like, oh, no, do I. And then they start singing. Then I'll be like, oh, now you can go, because I can go do something and I can hear what's happening in the background. Great.

Some of the songs I, like, stayed for. No, some of them, like the ones that I knew. Oh, yeah, he had hits then. So the ones that I knew, no, the ones that I knew were my grand's favorite. Yeah. You stick, I had known. Then I would sing those, you know what I mean? Maasang of Vuletan.

Singe in Jerusalem. Ma sang in Jerusalem. Singe in Jerusalem. You're exposing. Singe in Jerusalem. My song, Ovulega. You stuck around for that one. Singen, Jerusalem.

Ah. Because that like fully brought my grand d'act to me. Does that make sense? So those ones were like, ah, Gogo would be here. Because she used to give me that little, Babizan. It's Mkampam. It's Pampam. What do you call it?

Mkamel. Yeah. Pillo. Yeah. But it has a name in the course, isn't it? Spam-Pam. I like his Pambat. It's spambad.

Yeah. But it was the leather. It was a leather pillow. Spampum is the person who's not supposed to sit at the front in a text. So it was a leather pillow that you had to hit so that everyone could be on beats together. It had like a satisfying thing. The church metronome. Yeah.

Perfect way to put it. It had a beautiful thumping sound to it. Yeah, like a deep. And as a kid, I used to hit that thing. I would argue that my sense of rhythm is because of that. Makes sense, actually. from a young age. Makes sense.

Because you had to keep rhythm for that. My friend, it was like... And you can't mess up with that thing. And not only that... It's been a sensibility. Not only that, you had... You had to know how the song is going to go. Because remember, when we're singing these songs,

they always start very slow. Yeah. Because it has to give everyone time to get into the song. Then they start getting faster and faster. The BPMs go up. Maybe that's why I became a DJ as well. So the BPMs go up, go up, go up. You know the story is supposed to go to go to so I became a group.

That's why I became a pastor. And then you also have to be like at the end because you know what I mean? Because it goes, it goes. So when you start, you be like, the person starts with no beat first. It would be like, yes. Masang o'uleghani.

Singe in Jerusalem. Then like the men will come in lower. You see in Jerusalem Masa'u'll And you go and Jerusalem Oh, masang o'ulega. You see, you've got to keep this. Singe, Jerusalem.

Maasang o'ulegan. Singe in Jerusalem. Oh, masan. And you go and you'll go. And you control the temple. Yeah, but you have to feel what they're doing. I'm a kid. I'm not controlling this.

this is the prayer meeting I'm not controlling this this is happening I have to keep this going but I have to feel the You don't only get there No sometimes there'd be like two

maybe three But I was the one who was doing this You know what I mean So I'm there I'm doing the beat I have to keep it going De Rosale How mamasa

Ngo Vuelegani Singe Nets Jerusalem What we don't know Is the slow down You have The worst thing You could do

Is hit it Not necessarily The ending by the way It could be a Yeah just the lao Because the person might just be like Sanguene

Jerusalem Masang Ovolegan Yeah And so And as the rhythm Kippa Yeah

Yeah Yeah Ma sang Ovoo Yeah Singin Jerusalem My

aye aye Yeah That's how it was Don't you have homework Hey my man Hey my man You got to keep You don't know

I would be there as a kid watching People's mouth Yeah Because I'm listening The person who started I'm like I got to Because the first few times They hit me with that job

Obviously I was just beating the thing Then now My mom was like first of all She's like eh eh eh You know what I mean Who did you take the gig from No from adults So one day you were hang around

They were like Letang Deuter Guys adults used to do that thing Yeah And then I took his pampam Which I wasn't supposed to Because remember all the church Goodies were like put away

you know, the things people would wear the bells. Yeah, the bells. Everything was like put away. Yeah, the Ark of the Covenant, Jesus is shroud. All of it. All of it. All of it. It was all put away. The nails from the crucifixion. Everything was the rock from God. Everything. The rock of Gibraltar. The donkey that Jesus took to Jerusalem. Everything was there. Everything. The present tea test, I got married.

Everything was at the corner by the room divider. So everything. Everything, it's literally like that. The specific Bible that we read for that, for those. Was it that leather one? The leather one. So all these things were specific. A para finale. So is pampam, you were not allowed to just touch it randomly.

My grand would be very lenient to me. So I would. And then I would just walk around the house because I was like, there's nothing. Imagine you're a kid, right? You're like a three, four year old. You've got a leather pillow that you can hit as hard as you want. This is the greatest gift the whole time. The strap behind it.

With a strap, you'll never lose it. Ra. Bah, ba. Ba! So then. side of church. This is not during church time. It's at home. So then my grand said, my mom would always be like, hey, so can't have.

Like, stop being naughty. You know what I mean? Put that thing away. Then my grand said, no. Clearly he has a gift. Encourage this gift of his. Because this bum bum is a very, like, it's a very stressful job to have. Let him, you know what I mean? But then my mom was like, yo, bro, don't, don't mess around at church. This feels like that much longer.

This feels like that much longer. Wait, go on. Clarification. We don't know what you're busy with when Trevor invoked. You dropped everything you were doing. But like in a church, yeah. Why is it that kids or have the most difficult jobs? Like in the Catholic church?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, that thing can start fires with robes. Yeah, that's so true. And wooden benches. Yeah. You chose to give that gig to a kid. Yeah. The holding of the wine during the...

Yes, yes, yes. And the lighting of the candles. The lighting of the... Yeah. Yeah. So Ucocco knew, the innocent, pure souls. Suffer little children to come unto me

for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Amen. And forbid them not. So my grand was like, yo man, instead of chastising him for doing that thing. Right. let him do it then so now every

in fact that was the reason I now started enjoying Bible service I was like because I was like yo man most of the time I'm sitting there waiting for them to finish bro you're just like you're like you're like oh these prayers don't end

and they used to come during cartoon time my man I wish it was cartoon time that wasn't even about cartoon time because it was at my grand's house in Orlando we didn't have like a TV in that way I don't even remember I was having a TV so it was at night oh it was one of those

it was the evening ones where everyone with all the other grannies would come over I know the service. And then the ones were not only that, but remember they would all throw shade at each other in the prayers. Do you remember that one? Prayer of.

Guys, guys, that was the most gay. Because I remember as a kid being like, because what they would do is they would go, they would pray. They would pray, but they would be like, Oh, Bawait to Samajulin. Oh, Heavenly Father up above. Then they'd be like, oh, Oh, Heavenly Father, we thank you for being here with that.

You know, they do the introductions. So my grand would always be like, Oh, my, Mattis, Francis, Noah. And Kla, up, six, six, Ola, or Eastern, where they should give the full address. And even as a kid, I used to be like, ow, he doesn't know where we are. But can I tell you, I appreciated the humility.

Because I asked my grand ones. No, I asked my grand ones. I said, God knows everything. Why do you always introduce yourself? And she was like, Trevor, how busy is God? Why do I assume that he knows me? Let me make his job easier. So I was like, damn, it's humility.

So she would introduce herself. Then they'd pray. But then I would notice there'd be some grannies in the prayer circle. who would throw shade at each other because we'd all be praying. Yeah. Before the prayers, they just talk about life. How are things, what's happening, what they're. And then they'd be like, hey, you know, y'all, hey, you're in a student.

Hey, my friend side. Hey, and let's, I'll just, humble, and this week, you chis. Yeah, what, mom, she says, what, what, why, what, what, what, what, why, why, why. Yeah, we, wow, yeah, we, wow, yeah, no, no, man. Yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, come a car. They'll move, and so everyone would tell stories.

Yes, yes. Then the prayer meeting would start. Do the prayers read the scriptures? So they're donating the trauma. But then now when the praying would happen, there would always be some grannies. What they would do is they'd be praying. They'd pray normally.

Then they would just be like, and, you know, just heavenly father. Can we also just pray for Eugene's mom? You know, for the tough time she's had with her son. And not all of us can have a perfect son, and we just want to pray and say that, you know, we ask you to give her guidance and power, Lord,

so that she can try her best, Lord. Try her best and let the rest of us be grateful that we don't have a son like Eugene. Oh, bra. And now I'm there like, because I want to see who. I'm like, I'm like, bra, you'd hear everything.

Who's having an affair? Who stole money from what? No. Yeah. Who stole the stock fell money? whose kid is failing in school who can't pay rent who had an affair

whose uncle or husband is drunk all the time who came home because marriage did not work out yeah exactly and they would all but they would all like throw it on behalf of the other person as if it's a prayer

but I was like ah this is shade and then the song would start and that's when I would come in and I'd nail it I killed bruh I was absolutely phenomenal my timing

without fail I would never hit his bumper after the person is done. And I still judge people who do that till this day. Because sometimes people will finish singing and then the person will still go, bam, bam. No, no, you failed.

You must watch them. You must study their rhythm and you have no time because these are strangers. Was it looking at the lips? Or was it knowing... It's also learning. It's like in comedy. You learn an audience as well, you know? So you learn.

Yeah, they're sort of finishing the laugh now. Now you can carry the, because you don't want to throw in more jokes while they're laughing, they might miss the, you get them saying, it's innate. It's rhythm. What happened to the spam-bam, though? It's still there. At my grandmother's funeral, there was some other guy.

Very unqualified. Very unqualified. When now Quincy Johnson's spambam-bam, no one will ever be good enough. I'm just going to say, very unqualified. Who queens is like, Nekh and I like, wait,

so. I think it was like a random person from the church who came with the pastor. He was hitting the same spam-pam. No, no. It was their spam-pam. Well, at least. Yeah, no, no, it wasn't my grandson that I could see.

My grandson was like a, because you had different ones. I also used to judge people's bum-bams because sometimes they'd have like a really like, my grand's one was top like real leather. Brown or red? Brownish red. Yeah, I know that one. I know that one. Yeah.

Brownish red. And then when she would polish it with something. Yeah. go darker. Yes. Yeah, so she had that one with a beautiful sleeve. Yeah, so you could slip your hand in nicely on this side of it. The hand didn't, you know what I mean? Full hand

coverage. It's your hand. Oh, so it doesn't the one with that. No, no, no, no, no, shit. Full hand coverage. That is a fancy one. Yeah, it was a full sleeve. Full sleeve hand coverage. You were in there nicely. Yeah. All of it was stitched beautifully. He had enough of a border. So you know like you could flick, you know the border where the

Yeah, because the cheaper ones. the stitching just goes into the edge of the spum-pum. Yeah, because it wasn't leather, it was pleather. Yeah, so her one had the full border of leather. Piping, they call it. My man, yeah, the piping. Yeah. And when you, when you'd hit that thing, it had the most satisfying.

And then I would go to like some other people's houses and stuff. They would have like a thinner one. I hope you didn't do that face at people's houses. I did. No, guys, I was a Pampum's knob. If you asked me to do it with like the wrong two, I'd be like, this is not. That is so scary. I was like, bra, no.

You know, so fun, it's like, you know how you have like guitar shops and all of that. I feel like you could have opened a spum pumpum shop. Yeah, I could have been that guy. Your brother, I was a full on snob when it comes to that. Guys, you're full on snob. So you'd go and then you'd be like, I went, nah. My man. They'd ask me to do it like, because sometimes you'd pray at other people's places.

And they'd be like, Trevor, do you want a spum pump? And I would have already seen it. And I'm like, nah, bro. You'd flat like, I know, I can't play this thing. I can't. I can't roll like this. Guys, I'm the Jimmy Hendrix of spum pumps. Now you give me...

You could have been there. I could have been there. Guys, there's two industries. I think... We are one of like the oil industry, petrol industry related, and then petroleum jelly, gasoline,

byproduct of that situation. Hear me out. Yeah, okay. Spam, pampum, the material, the sound, closely linked to the same people that did the upholstery for the taxi seats. It did have a similar sound.

Guys, those seats. Had a similar sound. That thing, those seats... You're talking about the original seats. Yeah, the original... The perforated leather. Yeah, the perforated leather. Yeah, Kumbul.

With the sponge. If you... Burn your ass like an ass has never been burned before, bro. Do you remember? The material is the same. Yeah. The material is the same. Except for when it went to leather.

Not the premium one. Not the premium, yeah. Premium there was a total. That's the way said. Who had that tender somewhere. Yeah. But the cheap ones that you used to scoff at. They were the same.

You are all right, actually. It was the same. Why don't you never think? Yeah, but you drove it. My grand's pumpum never cracked. Why did Texas never have a head rest on the other passenger seats? What, what head are you resting? Oh, oh, flip.

No, but they, no, they took that out, though. It comes with a headrest. All of that. They took those out. Yeah, they used to come with. Yeah. You buy the car and then you got it. No, the way, so how it came is like,

We made our own version of it. Yes. But they came with headrests. And I think they still even do. And then you just take that thing out for like a bunch of reasons. First of all, headrests are not facilitating people passing money. Yeah, it's easier to pass the money for it. Your whole job is not a head continental pillow.

Hey, my man. It's a head rest. Hey, my man. My man. Yeah, what? They pass it. Hey, my man. Okay, do this.

Do this. Kaya, do this. Hit the back of you. That's all I need. No, bro. Why is yours covering the whole entire thing? No, bro. Also, like, as a taxi driver, you want to sit like this?

Yeah. Now, head rest here is killing me. Because this is the middle seat already. I need this room to stake my claim. This is how I roll. Guys, but we know what headrests are for. Yabon? Look at me. Yeah, but doesn't matter.

Look at me. Look at me. They're not sitting out. See this? This is it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This is it, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, imagine it there's a thing here. Now I'm this guy. Nah, bro. There's no swag here.

Here, I'm going to stop at red lights. Here. Ah, pardon. See what I'm saying? So the difference between being a responsible citizen and an irresponsible one. Eh. It's the risk of whiplash in an impact. We've got more.

What now after this? Mr. Mendel is like, ah, how are you? And he's like, Mr. Mandela, I heard the most amazing thing today. Stevie Wonder was doing an interview. Yes. And he said, that song, you know, I just called to say, I love you. Yes. He wrote it to you.

Did you find out what the story is behind the shoes? Yeah, what is it? It's the violence of the impact. It really has the human body. This guy just said it's the violence of the impact. No. But I said that. I did say in the beginning.

I did say in the beginning. But guys remember, there must be something about no, but okay, but okay, let me elaborate on what I meant. Yes. Let's go further. The reason I'm saying that is because the thing, so the reason. No, you must read it. No, so the reason I'm saying that is because.

Maybe this is why it makes sense to me. Shoes are one of the only things that you wear that only come onto your body from one side. if that means sense. Even those would come off in an accident. That's how baby is a name. I'm willing to bet. By accident. I'm willing to bet.

I'm willing to bet. Where's your shirt? Has your head, both arms and your torso holding it down. Your pants have both legs holding it. You get what I'm saying? Right. So I'm just saying it's a lot harder. Shoes are the only thing wear.

Think of like a passionate night where two people are, And you're trying to get into shoes come off like that. Everything else is like, oh, here we go. Yeah. You can kick off your shoes. There's even the phrase, yo, kick off your shoes. Yeah. You can kick off your shoes.

You can't, there's nothing else you can kick. You can't kick off your pants. There's nothing. Because apparently paramedics, when they reach a scene and they find your toes sticking out, they're like, ah, wait, really? What do you mean? Yeah, because there's no ways your shoes. If an impact takes off your shoes.

Oh, you're not there as a proxy for. Interesting. Yes. Funda Lapo and that's seen. Yeah. Read it. Read it. Read it. Read it on your mic. Shoes come off during severe accidents because extreme physical forces, sudden stopping, and violent body movements overcome the hold of the footway. So this makes complete sense. You know why? Because if I think about it as well.

Yes. Thank you, Simi. And one of the times when I would also lose my shoes the most is if I'll try Sponsula dancing. Read all the descriptions there. Violent movements. Say them again. Extreme physical forces. I'll show you. I'll show you on each one. Extreme physical forces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

Sad and stopping. Yeah, yeah. And violent body movements. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You laugh. But you know what?

To help people who watch this, you must put on a little Spangula video under me while I'm talking and you must show the feet and everything so people can see. The violent stop. The violence stopping and the sudden movement. Yeah. Yeah, if your shoes are off, it's time for you. Does a funeral, when you're at a funeral, does it make you start thinking about your life?

Like, because you've been to a lot of funerals, I feel like. Yeah, like it's so funny, like literally over the last few years. It's like, I never went to funerals. And then. And then it's just funerals. So it's so funny for me, it doesn't make me think about. about my own mortality. I just think about the person who I'm,

I'm like, oh wow, like I can't be with this person anymore. That's beautiful. But maybe I don't think about mortality because I'm like, guys, why, I mean, it's all going to happen at some point. Yeah. And I kind of, but also partly, I think I've said this before, partly maybe the reason I don't think about it anymore is because I thought I was going to die young, right?

And then now I've gone past that age where I thought I was going to die. I was like, ah, okay. What limit did you give yourself? What? I gave myself a limit of 41. Really? Yes. You thought by 41, there would be curtains.

Yes, because my father died younger 26. My grandfather died at 41. And I was like, okay, I think that you had no record of somebody having me on. Yes. And then I was like, in your family, there's no pictures of old people. No, no, from my dad's side. Yeah, there's no old people. Yeah, no old people.

And so that's what I mean. I actually never thought about that. When your ancestor looks younger than you currently. And you have nivia. Yeah. And it's male figures. Yeah. When people are like, oh, that's my grandfather. You're like, yeah?

I think I was 26 going. Damn, bro. Yeah. Then who look at you like you've had a hard life? Yeah. They're like, no, I've lived twice their age. Yeah. That's crazy.

Which is insane. And then I was like, yeah, I think. But then what I found interesting was that I remember reading like Bill Clinton's autobiography. And Bill Clinton wrote, and I remember I was like, God damn, I have the same fear. Because his grandfather died young, his father died young, and he thought I was going to die young. That's why he lived like it was his last day. And he did.

Then the Oval Office. And Winston Churchill, same thing. He also thought I was going to die young. I reserve my rights and not incriminate myself. Depends what? Guys, what do you call again? 35th Amendment. Yeah.

Yeah, numbing guys, I'm fucking up again. I'm fucking up again. But my best Bill Clinton quote is when he was being, I think he had to deposition that yeah, that's what it was. And then someone asked him a question and Bill Clinton said, it depends on what a definition of the word is, is. I was against that guy. And I was like, I've never heard.

You know, if I borrow Eugene's brain for that, I'll say, that is a person who has had a long life of infidelity. If I think of how Eugene would think of it, because I'm like, that's a person who's like, so when you say, when you say, were you, were you, what word do you mean? When you say were, when you say who is she, what do you mean by she? What is the word she? Do you mean who is she as a person? Who is she? To me? To her family?

Who is she? That's what that sounds like to me. So what's beyond? Angiti, you live your whole life thinking 45, that's it. Yeah. Then what's beyond 41? I mean 41. What's beyond that?

What do you replace that with? It's like it's confusion. Because you, I suppose because you'd set this limit, I think, for yourself. And so for example, where I was like, I'm not going to have kids because I'm going to die young, right? And then I'm not going to get married because I'm. I'm going to die young, right? And then now, all of a sudden, those things are like, God damn, I'm not dead. So I have to rethink what I'm going to do with my life.

And every loan you've taken out. Because you were sure you were leaving. Kai, I was a big boss out there. Put it on my loan account. This is 36 months, Kyle was like, put it on. I was like, I'm outy. Kyle was like, how many months to pay? Oh, yeah.

24-month contract. I got it. And now, age. And now, Kass, they're like, so guys, let me show you a picture of my grandfather. So this is my grandfather. I know what you're thinking. I know what you're thinking.

Nick, I was only using sunlight basso. I actually didn't know that. So a lot of how you planned or how you were living your life is because you assumed, is that, I mean, not why you're so outgoing and so, like, gregarious, but. Damn, Sam.

Cricarious. He is, though. Simmy. Oh, that's okay. Yeah, first lap, I'm gonna... Before we carry on, because I want to put Grigarius over your head now as you speaking.

Fagalapu. Nyefuna, I did it again. Gregarius, is an adjective that means fond of company, sociable, or tending to live in groups. That's not,

not describe you perfectly? That does describe me, wow. Perfectly. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah. But also... Because I confuse Gregorius and verbose.

Yeah. Simi and Zalapos. Vibosth living. The unnecessary use of additional words and phrases. What is it this? Hey. Verbose means using or containing more words than are needed. Okay, scratch that one.

I equal up. Gregorius. Yeah. No, but was that like, because you know more people. than anyone I know. Maybe, maybe Lawrence, maybe, but I still think you know more.

I've never been out to lunch, dinner or in public with Kaya and not had Kaya greeted by somebody in a very familiar way. Like genuinely, I remember once we were with somebody who's not from South Africa and they asked us,

someone in our friend group, but they said, they were like, is he like the mayor or something? What does he do? Like, is he like, is he the mayor?

Yeah. Because everywhere you go, you don't sit down at a restaurant. I would say it takes five to ten minutes for you to sit down when you go to a restaurant. Yeah. I would hate to be his partner. It's terrible. Yeah. Because you get there. And then before you sit.

Oh, table. Oh, table. Oh, table. You know, like in the Godfather. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's how Kaya is. Damn.

You kiss babies and everything? Everything, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Send him a prayer as tenders. No, no, but it's, I don't know. It's okay. But then again, it's that, I don't know if it's a personality thing or that's why.

But I mean, I think there was partly the reason, actually. I think I wrote books in the beginning. Because you thought you were leaving. I was like, I'm going to be dead. At least I've left something behind. You know what's actually beautiful about this funny enough is they say, and I know it's a, it's a platitude. But they always say live. as if you are going to die.

And people always like, yeah, well, of course we're going to. It's like, no, no, no, no. Everyone goes like, oh, you're going to die. But people don't actually live as if they are going to die. And it's interesting that you now say that because it's like you were living like you were going to die. So you're like, let me write books so that I've left something and I've told my stories

and I've like, you know, my family and our histories and our lives. You know what I mean? It's like this whole vibe. So now what's changed? As Eugene says, now that you've ticked the... it. Like I said, now that the odometer, so that it can go further.

It can go further. It's like, it went to 9, 9,99. Then it clicked back. Then you're like, how? Back to zero. I know. It's like,

the year 2000. Yeah. Can I tell you? Like, you're right. It's been, it was for maybe a solid four years where I was a bit where I couldn't find or place myself properly because I was. But I didn't figure that out yet.

And I think when when the penny dropped us that flip, it's because I thought. I thought I was going to die. This is why my life just feels like all over the place and I've been really defined the second stage of my life because what I thought I was going to happen hasn't happened. And so how do I plan my life now? Because I need to plan my life. And it's almost like I'm starting from zero. And that's what I, that's happening now. And I can see that evolution and I think I can I can feel it in myself and I feel a little bit different I think because of that does it bring you relief or does it bring you discomfort it's for that is a very good question I think

that actually it gives it's it's a it's a bit of both and I like the discomfort of wanting to try new things you know things that I mean for example that there's a thing that I've always said to myself which is like the one thing I know I'll never ever be able to do is to start a business I don't think that I have their capacity for it. I don't think I have the mental aptitude for it. But now I'm actually seriously considering, like, you know, doing something, like in that sign, you know, a business that I'd love to, you know, to be involved in and start it, which is completely different from anything I've ever done in my life, like completely outside.

I love that for you. I will say one thing. If there's one thing that will kill you, it's starting a business. I'm just going to tell you as your friend. Yes. That man. Yeah. Death is such an interesting.

Eugene and I were hanging with my mom yesterday. And it was so funny. She was so annoyed. So my mom was devastated. And I mean devastated at the news of Dolly Parton's passing. Oh, yes. My mom, she sort of lives in a time capsule. there's the life she lived before finding Christ

and then there's her life in Christ. That period is almost like stasis because it's like the Bible doesn't change. The scripture doesn't change. You know, and she's comfortable in that world. But then there's this world that she still loves and fondly remembers and all of that.

So that's when she was listening to secular music and she was like part of the world and all. Those things hold a special place in her heart. Right, let me tell you something. People have died. And my mom would be like, oh, I heard whoever passed away, oh, I'm, you, I can't believe it. Oh, San Mandela died.

Yeah, those vibes. Those guys, guys, you took it there. Let me tell you something. I know, and don't die. Let me tell you. Are you shot too high? Lapaya. He didn't even start here.

He didn't even start here. He went straight to dada. Dude, not my latini, nothing. She was shaken, eh? Like, shaken, shaking, shaken. I can believe it. I get it. I get it.

Yeah, she was shaken. And I've tried to break it down to understand why. And I think it's a few reasons because I was talking to her about it. And I was like, I think she was shaken for, let me go, I go, I think she was shaken by Dolly Parton's passing one because Dolly Parton defined an error of my mom's life. Right. And you know when an artist defines an error of your life. When they die, it sort of makes you feel like that error of your life has died as well. Yeah, yeah.

You know? Yeah. I think her dying also shook my mom a little bit because I guess she saw her as a peer in age in a way. So she's like- There's an icon as well. Yeah. No, but before that, it's like just like this is like the person I'm in line with. Yeah, yeah.

Then there's the icon of like, oh my goodness, Dolly Parton. Right. Because some people seem so larger than life. It's almost like the idea of them. Dolly Potter becomes ephemeral as opposed to concrete. Yes. Yes. Dolly Potter is an idea.

Dolly Parton. No one's even like, where is she right now? She's Dolly Parton. That's true. Yeah. Then when you go, she's dead. It's like, wait, what do you mean? What do you mean she?

I didn't even know she was like alive. I thought she was just existing. Yeah. Fully shaken. That's actually a good description. So now I'm on my way to pick up my mom. You know, it's Sunday. We're going to go get lunch, the usual thing.

And now I'm like, oh, man, Dolly Parton. Because I've saw the email my mom sent me in the morning. And I was like, oh, let me like play. Dolly Parton's greatest hits. because that's my childhood. So now I'm in the car. Having the time of my life, busy there, singing, they enjoying myself,

you know, get to my mom's place. She gets in the car. She's like, hey, she's like, turn it off, turn it off. She's dead. Then I'm like, what? Yeah. That's why I'm playing the music.

She's like, no, no, no, no. No, no. And I've never genuinely, she's not like that kind of, she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, play I call to say, I love you, please just called, just called. Then I was like, who because the title didn't come to my head immediately.

Yeah, then I was like who. She's like, the blind guy meant the blind guy. And I was like, oh, Stevie Wonder. She's like, yeah. And I was like, damn, she's like shaken. And then during the day we talked about it. And I know my mom is like, one person, but I also started seeing like the impact that Dolly Parton had on people's lives

and people's lives that I don't think anyone could have ever predicted. I can see Dolly Parton, a country superstar having an impact on many parts of America's lives. I can see Dolly Parton, an American having an impact on many parts of American lives, you know, regardless of where they live, et cetera, et cetera. brah I really hope Dolly Parton knew that in random parts of

Africa and I'm sure other parts of the world there were black people going you are my person Yeah that's very true Not just because of your music Not just because of your message But even in the way she lived after that Yeah she lived her life

Yeah but and how she lived it The fights that she fought The sides of history she chose to be on The you get what I'm saying When everything about where she came from told her to behave a very particular way and not being apologetic as well. And not being apologetic, you're right about it.

Sorry, incidentally, when it said that your mom asked you to play, I just called to say, I love you. Do you know why that song was written? No. He wrote, Stevie Wonder wrote that song as to Madiba while he was in prison. That song to Nelson Mandela.

Yes. I just called to say I love you. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes. Stevie Wonder wrote that song. It's dedicated to Madiba. To Nelson Mandela. What?

Yes. Damn. Yeah. And of course, happy birthday to you, MLK. Yo, that's crazy. Yeah. But that's sorry, we're talking about you. You know what I'm thinking now?

Just the comedian part of my brain. Don't, the comedian part of my brain. Don't shoot. Just for comedy. Just for comedy. Not for real life. So me, put comedy disclaimer. The following is not appropriate for sensitive viewers.

Your discretion is advised. Just for comedy. I'm picturing now. The song comes out. Mega hit all over the world. Nelson Mandela is in Robin Island. He's in prison. The guard comes through, busy playing it on a mini radio.

I just called to say, you know, Mandela's like, Ah. Just pick check there. He's like, Who's that song? What an amazing song? Who's that? The God is like,

Mr. Mandela, that is the new song from Stevie Wonder. Then Mandela's like, oh, he's got a new song. It's so great. Can I hear it again? He's like, I'll let you know when it comes on the radio again, sir.

He's like, okay. Yeah, because then you couldn't just play it again. So then he comes back like in the next hour block where they're playing. He's like, oh, Mr. Mandela, here it is you can listen to it. Then Mandela is like, I love this song.

I love it. Then every day the God comes back, plays it for Mandela. Every day is like, oh, wow. what a song. What a song. I can't believe it.

I can't believe it. Oh, wow, wow, what a song. And then the news comes out, someone reports on it. And then the guard comes there. He's like, Mr. Mandela. Mr. Mandela, he's like, ah, how are you? Then he's like, Mr. Mandela, I heard the most amazing thing today. Stevie Wonder was doing an interview.

Yes. And he said, that song, you know, I just called to say, I love you. Yes. He wrote it to you. What do you meant to me? He wrote that song to you, Mr. Mandela. Then when you was like, wow, that's okay. You know that line from that line from that movie.

Every time I try to leave, the game keeps calling me. Oh, that's bad. Oh, man. Guys, man, no. Oh, that's not twinkling his eye. I was like, yeah, get a leo. He was like, I mean, I'm in. You guys were like them.

Oh, man. I'm sorry, man. But halfway through the story, I had hope. Like, there was time where you won me over. I was like, oh, he's not going to do it. Like I looked at him and I was like, yeah, who's sharp. Out there, man. That upper cut was unnecessary.

Okay. Hey. Yeah. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back.

I'm back. Yeah, man. I'm flying too low to the stadium, guys. Yeah. Sorry, sorry. Hey, guys. Hey, flying too low to the stadium. I'm, sorry, sorry, guys.

Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. Sorry, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is amazing. Oh, man. Wait.

Do you know what, who I said, how I was, like what connects me to Dolly Parton? Yeah. Guys, I don't know about you, but this was my life and Dolly Parton. Manual labor at home. Yeah. Every Saturday, I'm there cleaning the stoop, red polish, playing Dolly Parton. Oh, yeah. And then I'm like, my mom wants me to use Ibrass or to clean the primary stove so that

It's like glistening and I'm taking the, like, newspaper, cleaning the windows and Dolly Parton is blasting in the background. That's my association with Dolly Parton. It's amazing, bro. Every single Saturday, we're playing Dolly Parton and the others are happening. You guys don't, you know, is it just me? No, no, no, no. Funny enough, for my, maybe just because of an age thing or where we were playing it. Dolly Parton was the music my mom played for me.

her music. My stoop cleaning, sweeping music was all like boys to men, Mariah Carey. Yeah, them too. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is like, Dolly Potter for some reason was never played like around cleaning time. I was always there by the stoop literally in my head. I was just like, we belong together. And you know they know that I'm right. Our parents let us sing I'll make love to you just presently. Ah, my man. They were like, I'll make love to you. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, my man. As long as the house is clean. As long as the house is clean.

Yeah, you can sing what you want. Ah, skit, skit, man, baga. Ah, skid, yeah, clean a lapo. From the window to the wall. You can't be glaring, my. That's a perfect feeling song, actually. So she, but you see, Minah caught already story at the end. When I get you caught her at the beginning.

Yeah. When she was telling you good tea. And then at the end. Oh, at the end, man, it was so fun. Because Mina was there, Kaya, participating like we all said that Dolly died. So then my mom, she like flips, she'd be. She goes from like mourning the loss, the whole thing. And then she's like, yo, by the way, she's like, did you see that she planned her whole funeral and like, you rehearsed it?

And I was like, what are you talking about? She's like, yeah, she saw this thing where planned it, rehearsed, told everyone what it's going to be, how she's going to dress, whatever. She's want to be buried in high heels, whatever. Then I was like, oh, that's cool. Then my mom was like, no. She's like, what, control freak? Yeah. Yeah, me and Eugene are both like, oh, no.

Then my mom was like, hey, control freak. She's like, you're gone. Why do you care what shoes you're wearing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gone. What are you talking about? Then I was like, Mom, you can say that. And then the only way I can get her to like, at least see a point of view is I'll go like, okay, in the Bible, how many people made requests before they died about what they would like to happen after they were dead?

And then she was like, yeah, yeah, okay. Well, the people that did that all the time. All the time in the Bible, all the time. Yeah? All the time. There's so many of them. Once I'm gone, you must do this. Then you must go to where we're and do that.

Or I want to be buried like this. I mean, like Moses was one. Was like bury me on a mountain without my things and my this and my this. King David had his request as well. Burry me like this and the thing must do that in my head. Oh, what is it? Yeah. Peter said, bury me like, what is it?

When they crucify him, it should be upside down. Yeah. Oh, and then there was, Tupac said, the holes that I used to know from long ago kiss me from my head to my toe that's similar but not the same but he said it but no it's so

then she was like okay yeah she's like okay I get it so wait because she was also mentioning Gwiti people are doing final holidays now people when they know that they're gonna die they plan their death

they're going to get that injection it's funny she was actually talking My mom was talking about you without realizing it. She was talking about you without realizing it. She was saying she's fascinated by people who like live the last years of their life, but like knowing they're going to die or either like planning their death or whatever.

You know, but they go, I'm going to die. So this is my last big trip. And this is my last, I'm throwing a big party and throwing a this and throwing a that. You know what I mean? Pay your baba in advance. Yeah. And then, but then we were having a discussion.

We're like, maybe it's because we've never had the luxury. but we don't know of any like black people doing that ever. Yeah, I can't. I can't think of anybody unless you are state president. But that's what I mean. Like we couldn't think of anyone saying, yeah, we're going to our last family trip because grandpa's going soon. Yeah.

Yeah, but when your grandmother stops drinking tab. That's funny. That's when you know. Magas say a Coke straight. You're so funny. Like I remember like, you know, like in 24. routine from the World Cup in Brazil. My grandmother, you know, from my dad's side.

You know, she was getting sick and, you know, she's just being hospitalized. And you could see it as like the last few days. And I remember thinking, there's someone better not die before I go to Brazil for the World Cup. Oh, Kaya. She's going to God. She held on. Because she was also there like, yo, bro, I want to watch the World Cup. And then I was like, she held on.

I'm in Brazil. And I'm like, if I get any message from home, does this mean that I have to you know, cut my ship in my trip short and then fly back home. She hung on for another two weeks and then, you know, I got back, the World Cup was over and I was like, well done, Grant. Yeah. That's a Coco who loves you.

Your grand... I'm betting your grandmother would love you so much that she would hold on for you knowing that. Your grand also held on, no? I think she did. Yeah. Yeah. I told you that story. I think I did, right? Remind me? Where I came back to visit one of my trips. Oh, yes. Yeah. And she was like,

Trevor's here. And my mom was like, Trevor's not here. And she was like, nope, Trevor's here. And then I was here. I didn't told anyone. I was supposed to be surprised.

I went to see her. She was there. And then she said, you came to say goodbye. And I was like, goodbye. Came to say hello. I thought it was like dementia or something. Which she didn't have.

I was like, no, hello. I came to say hello. He's like, oh, I thought I wasn't going to see you before I leave. Then I was like, what are you? But she was like very casual about it. And my grand used to joke a lot. So I didn't assume there wasn't a heaviness around it. But yeah.

and then I left and then after that week maybe like a few, maybe a month later possibly in her sleep she was just like, yeah, my nose is moisturized and she knew.

Oh. Are you about a lot? So, Kyle, this is exciting. Before we go, what are you going to do now, new life? New life, new K. I'm excited, bro. I didn't know this, by the way. No, I'm going to tell about it and invest in my business.

As I was saying. But really, what are you? So tell me some of the things. Tell me some of the things you didn't even allow yourself the luxury of considering that you now are considering and you're going like, actually, because I was afraid I wasn't going to be here, I didn't even allow myself the possibility of thinking about it. But now I am.

And now what are you entertaining that you didn't because you thought you couldn't before? Being married. Love it. I know it's so funny because sometimes I think I was like, well, I'm a bit older. Do I want to have kids? And then I think, I mean, my father died when I was 26. You know, he was young and had kids. You know, you could die.

Yes. Yes. There's no. There's, you know what I'm saying. And then even that. You'd be a great dad. Yeah. So now that, thank you.

I think so too. The only dad tells you. telling his little child about Bill Clinton's autobiography. You know what is, is. You'd be the only dad. No, but you would be. And your kids talking from a bedroom. Mom, come fetch your man.

Because you love, just like you love learning. Yeah. You espouse curiosity. You love people. You love people. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can see that for you.

Yeah. And then obviously I'm like, I'm going to take a brave step and just do something I've never done before. I love this. Which is what? I return our text messages. I can't.

Wow. Reply to our texts. Can I get it? Oh. Guy was like, hey guys, I can't respond. I might be dying, guys. I might be dying. These blue ticks are not what you think.

It's the blue ticks of death, boys. But also, I can respond. You know, Kai, a time, time there's than timely death using calendars. Chinese calendar, Gregorian calendar. Then there was that one, the Inca one? Oh, yeah. But it's so, it's so. funny like you just actually reminded me like I don't know you're calling me I think I think you're

Ryan I don't know who else was in the car yeah I don't know what you call me about and then the conversation ended whatever and then you call me like like 30 seconds later a minute later and like yo the conversation hasn't done like how are you ending conversations like that so what Kai what car does is he he comes like a sitcom he he he he he he he he he you'll be talking. Yeah. When you get to the end of a point or an idea, he then just automatically assumes that's the end of the conversation,

and then he stops. Terrible spum-pum-ticking. Terrible. Terrible. He never got it. My friend? Wait, wait. So you'll be like, yeah.

Let's do a conversation. I'll show you. Let's go. Sure, sure. Yeah, sure, chap. Skip her in love. Ah, no, I'm great, Eugene. I'm great, my man.

How are you? He, I'm final. Did you know that Steve Wander wrote that song? I just called Say I Love for Okata. I know. I read that.

That's crazy. Ah, yeah, read it, that's crazy. Yeah, man. That's wise. That's crazy. Too, too,

too. No man. I found him back immediately. And I'm so confused. I found him back immediately. And I was like, yo, what happened? Then he's like, what?

I said, did we get cut off? He's like, no, chap. I thought we were done. I was like, my man. My man. My man. No, brother. No brother.

Wait, why, why, why, why is Kaya treating every conversation like it's a most cold? That's how Kaya does it. Wait, how do you determine when it's over, Kaya? I, I just think it's so far. I don't have, I don't have, I don't have like a thing, but I just, there's a moment, I think this conversation is over and it's so funny because it's something I'd been told before that I end conversations awkwardly and then for a while is okay, I need to be conscious, actually, of how I end conversations now.

Because I know I've got to wait for that. Okay, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. Yeah. Okay, bye, bye, bye. And you're a tosser, come on. On top of all of these things. We've never said goodbye at, like, one time. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

And then I said goodbye to my mom. How many times yesterday? That's true. Six, seven times? Wait, wait, wait, at the house. All over. We said goodbye in the car. Yeah.

Then we said, then we got out of the car and said goodbye. And we walked her to the gate. Then we said goodbye. Yeah. Then we walked her in the house. Then we said goodbye. And she said, wait, can you just come with me to do something? Then we went with her.

Then we went. We did things, did things. Then we came back. Then said goodbye in the car again. Then said goodbye when we got out the car. Then said goodbye at the gate again. And then said goodbye inside. And then you hooted pop up with the final goodbye.

You know. But now here you are. Yeah, I know. I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know. But it's like a thing. But I can see where it comes from.

You know, black people, when someone has died, they'll ask you, what was the last thing that person said? Yeah. There's always a thing. Yeah, I been cool my eyes. Or we're having a conversation. He was telling me, yeah, no, I should have known. I should have read the signs.

So, Kyle was like, you will never quote you. What was the last thing? Cut, too, to, dude, that's... Oh, man. I was like, you'll never quote you. Damn, man. Yeah, this is the thing we're gonna work on, man. Oh, yeah.

But this is dope. I'm glad you actually told, because you've never told me this. Now that you've told me, I'm excited to be part of, like, your new life. It's gonna be dope, man. You know, it's been a year since we first... Exactly a year. You realize... Santa Maria, you're right.

Since the first time we hung out, you guys were the first, like, my favorite people. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Literally, it's been a year. Santa Maria. That's amazing. So another one, man. Yeah.

Man, I'm going to celebrate your birthday's extra now. You know, I'm being serious. Where is your birthday? April 16th. I'm going to celebrate it extra now. But he's like, it's so funny. Like, you last year or the last year, you forced me to have my birthday because I was like, ah, I'm just landing from Canada.

Yeah. And Trevor's like, good for you. we're doing this thing. We're doing this thing. Yeah. Yeah, bro. And I didn't even know this. Yeah.

And I didn't know this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This has been dope, man. Thank you, guys. Here's to another year. Here's to another year.

Another year. Five. Another year. Another year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We don't want to fly too low. One at a time, guys. One at a time. One at a time. Yeah. One drive. Thank you.

Yeah. Yeah. dope, dope. Oh, man. I just called. Yeah? What is it? What is it?

Wait, tell us. Stevie Wonder, do not write. I just called to say I love you for Nelson Mandela, but he famously dedicated his 1985 Academy Award for the song to him. Oh, it's close enough. Okay, okay, okay. No, it's not like a non-store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, okay. But thank you for that clarification. No, no, but that's good. No, but yeah, but yeah, if you sing here, Bambaghanai and Jepo-Di, yeah, yeah. At least now, Mandela will be like, oh, that's better. That's funny. That was so funny.

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