What's Your Drama - Angry Dick Pics

Episode Date: March 12, 2020

Listen, sh-t is cray right now and this virus is nothing to f-ck around with so before Lainey and I dip into your questions we and by "we" I really mean "I" let you into my anxiety spiral. Lainey might call me a germaphobe paranoid freak, but Jacek had to cover his face with his shirt to adjust my microphone after I said I was feeling remotely stuffy.Ummmmkayyyy. I am not the only one.  Then we switch the mood and get right into our first question which is about our favorite topic: dick pics. Do you have to like them? Spoiler alert: the answer is no.Next, should you let go of a friendship when you know that said friend is actually in love with you? Is there any good way to carry on without hurting people's feelings?  Finally to our last writer who is struggling with how to be a boss to her friends in the workplace, can you strike a balance or are the dynamics of the friendship doomed? We hope you enjoy the show and keep sending me all your DRAMA! Send your advice questions my way at [e-mail]. We also love hearing from you on Twitter at @sasha_tong and @laineygossip and Instagram at @lostandfoundapothecary and @laineygossip. And of course subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and make sure to leave feedback and comments because it helps others find our show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Like these, the dick pics that we see from our girlfriends are like Cirque du Soleil next level dick pics. They come, but they come with it like a, an attitude, like a vibe. Yes. Like my dick wants to smash you. My dick has an attitude. Like you should be so lucky. My dick can get into a bar fight. It's true.

It's never a gentle dick. Yeah. them for your own brand or organization? Well, it's easier than you think. We're Acast, and we give you the platform to do it all yourself. Browse thousands of popular podcasts, choose the shows that match your perfect audience, set your budget, and launch. And if you want a hand, our podcast specialists are there to help you launch with confidence. This is podcast advertising without barriers. Get started at acast.com slash advertise. so coronavirus i think is affecting people's workplaces uh i can vouch for that because i

am very unhappy at my workplace right now and my workplace alternate being here right now is also worrisome because you just got off a plane sash nope can i finish my sentence you just got off a plane. Yeah. You didn't wear your little fucking luxury mask. And I don't know where the fuck you've been or who you've been breathing air with. I went to LA. Correct. I went from the airport to the hotel. I sequestered myself in the hotel. Then I went to a screening. Then I went to a junket. Then I went back on the plane. Did you shake people's hands? No. No. No. I mean, the good thing about you is you're such a fucking cow that you don't really associate or socialize with people. It's really just the cesspool of the germ pod, which is the airplane that I'm like.

Exactly. But you also know me that I wiped down everything on the airplane. I disinfected constantly. And you showered when you got home. And I showered when I got home. I didn't touch anybody on the airplane. And so, but in the workplace. Oh my God. The workplace is where you see the nastiest of habits. Well, every day, yeah, there are people who don't wash their hands. I, yeah, I don't, I don't get it. It causes me so much anxiety. But you are particularly like ratcheted up to your highest level of fear.

Yeah. The fear is not only for myself, it's for oldies and it's also for the healthcare system, which is just like the people at the front line, like my heart breaks for them. Yes, yes. And I know that it's inevitable that it's going to happen here, that it's just going to be too much for our healthcare system to take. And I just, and I'm not stocking up on all the toilet paper,

but I definitely have an extra 24 pack. I didn't go nuts. I fucking just got myself. So you're not stockpiling. I'm not stockpiling because I understand that is a shitty thing to do, that shitty behavior, but I do have some extra TP. Oh, tell me why it's shitty behavior. To fucking take all the toilet paper?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're not worried at all? No. Because I know people are stockpiling, it made me get extra toilet paper because I don't want to run out.

Right. Everyone's biggest worry is like, where am I going to put the shit? I haven't bought like five boxes of toilet paper. No. Just enough to last the month. Yes. How about that? Yes.

Okay. But I'm seeing on the news that all the shelves are empty. Of things. Of course. And now I'm like, okay, well, shit, can I go to the grocery store like I regularly do at 9.30 on Saturday morning and buy the food I need for one week, which is normal everyday behavior? Yes.

Or am I going to need to buy the food for a month because people are clearing shit out? I'm not happy. Well, why don't you all let us know your coronavirus prevention tips? and send them directly to me in the workplace or in the family place or where when you're commuting or whatever because yeah I think that maybe we should share that information I keep on I was driving on my driving here and I was saying to Corey he was like I wouldn't go to fucking ladies house she was just on a plane and I was like I'm gonna stay like I think we're like three and a half oh my god so we're safe right now okay I was on a plane to LA which is not under quarantine

And America in general, like there's no blocking of anyone between Canada and America and America and Canada at the border. I'm worried. If I came back from Italy. I'm worried for Americans. If I came back from Italy or if I came back from Iran or. But how about if someone from Italy went to L.A. and then came back with you to Toronto? How the fuck would you know? I listen.

Let's stop. Yeah. Literally, my throat's been closing up from anxiety. So let's so let me just contain my throat muscles so I can read these. OK, OK, OK. Thankfully, this first one's really short and to the point. OK. Hi, Sasha and Lainey.

Quite simply, is there something wrong with me if I don't like dick pics? Help a chick who don't like dick pics. Thank you for this. This is just so succinct. It makes me so happy. So, yeah, OK, well, can we just back up, though, before we get into answering whether or not there's something wrong with this person for not liking dick pics? I think we've talked about it before, but I want to talk about it again.

I know what it is. I know where you're going with this. I wish that, listen, Jacek and I have been together for so long that I never dated in the time of dick pics. Yep. And neither did you, really. Nope. No dick pics.

And I've never gotten one. Yeah. And I'm kind of sad about it, and I know you are too. I know that you, I know that it would freak you out, but you, come on. You want that experience. I am sad that I don't have that experience to talk about and make fun of or just like shoot the shit with somebody. It makes me feel so old, right?

Like if I'm with 20 year olds or even like young 30 year olds, I can't, I can get down with that conversation. Thankfully though, we do have some single friends who get the dick pic all the time. So I feel like the reservoir of my dick pics has been filled through our friends. That's my favorite thing when we have our family dinners. And like our girlfriends who are single show us like the dick pics. I've saved them on my phone. Fucking, you're so gross.

Because I've come home to show Yassic. You show Yassic the dick pics? Even like the cum splattered shower one? Oh my God, that one was all time. Yes, our friend who we will obviously never reveal, but she got a dick pic of a guy who was jizzing on a glass shower door. No, but it was like episodic TV. So it started with, remember how it started with, oh, here's, I'm just like bending over with my. No, no, I was, no, no, it started with I'm clothed.

Yes, yes, yes. And then he was at the gym and bent over to show his fucking asshole. He wasn't at the gym, you weirdo. He was just in his fucking room. Oh, okay, fine. Doesn't matter. I've embellished the story yes totally

and it was like the fucking smoothest asshole we did the two finger zoom on the asshole it was clean and pink and hairless I know

he did some porn style butt stuff and then the next in the series was I think the dick but out of pants like he had pants on and then he

sorry I wasn't part of pulled his dick out and it was through the zipper okay was it? yeah I think I'm just still disturbed by

like I said this was a Netflix bitch Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I created a whole episodic series out of this. And then it was, yeah, Come Shot in the Shower. Yeah, I… Oh, my God. What is out there?

Not for me. That's not for me. I don't enjoy that. That's why I'm sort of, I feel our writer because I'm like, yeah, I don't think that would, it would make me laugh and I would show my friends, but by no means… I'm sorry. You were the first person to reach for the phone. What are…

My mom is listening to this. and that is not true you created a hole once again like I didn't see you being like shutting down the conversation and saying oh no please don't show me I'm too innocent to see this that is not what I'm saying of our friend that's not what I'm saying I just don't I understand that they wouldn't that wouldn't be like I couldn't see like like a jizz smeared shower curtain and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to fucking hit this one back. I would be. Oh, no. Mortified for the person. I don't. Listen, maybe everybody like everybody has their own kink, right? Yeah. I guess it works on some people. Yes. Clearly it wouldn't work for me

as much as I think this is funny. Like if it were me and I was the recipient, I would just I would just like it because I could go to family dinners with you guys and show you. And I think that that's what it mostly is for the majority of women. It's just fodder for your friends, right? Just to shoot the shit and show them. I don't know if you're like, if you're a dude who's sending a whack load of dick pics. I'm not sure that's what's keeping the dates going forward. Here's my question.

Every dude I know, and like we know some dudes. Yeah. Like none of them cop to sending dick pics. Or they think it's like, no, fuck, no way. But there are. Oh, they're sending dick pics. Right. Yes.

Right? Yes. So I think that there's such a disconnect because also, is there a woman out there who likes it? I'm sure. Or a man. I'm sure. Or a man. I'm sure.

A man out there. I'm sure. Yes. In the gay community, I think it's a little bit different. I think, yes, it's more enjoyable. So maybe because it's not so aggressive. Like these, the dick pics that we see from our girlfriends are like Cirque du Soleil next level dick pics.

They come, but they come with it like an attitude, like a vibe. Like my dick wants to smash you. My dick has an attitude. Like you should be so lucky. My dick can get into a bar fight. It's true. It's never a gentle dick. Yeah.

Yeah. Like maybe if it was like just, you know, like a, like a, like an Anne Getty's photo rolled up in some leaves. Maybe that would be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Dicking some candles. But you're actually maybe a dick in a bath.

A dick in a bath, a dick in a flower, a dick in a baby cradle. It's always a fucking metal dick, you know? Like a fucking heavy metal dick. You're right. You're right. Right? Maybe that's what it is. That's what's off-putting about it.

Yes. It's not like a gentle, like, offering. Like, the soundtrack, when it comes in, if there were a song playing, it would be a fucking banger. It wouldn't, like, right? It's never, you know, a good R&B Jodeci jam. Yeah. Send a dick pic that goes with a Jodeci song.

Yes. Thank you. I would like to see that. Please send that to Lainey at LaineyGossipTargo.com. And does that, Joe, to see, it could be a dick pic that goes with a Celine Dion song. Yeah. You know, well, like. SWB.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just not like a fucking, you know. Metallica dick. No, I don't want, I don't want to know, like, I don't want a dick pic that has anger management issues. Yes, yes. Oh my gosh, thank you.

I think that you have, you have nailed it on the head, the proverbial head. Anyway, back to our, the person who's written to us. It is, nothing is wrong with you if you don't like a dick pic. But what does she do? Like when, you know, how about if you're interested in a guy and for some stupid reason he just thinks dick pics are the way to go. I think that that is when you can, you know, I think that you can express to the person if you're interested in them that maybe you don't need the dick pic.

Can you? You just, you don't have to accept the dick pic. I think if there is something more to it, like I'm just reading into this person, like maybe she does. How about if there's a guy that she likes and he sends her a dick pic? Is that like a deal breaker? It shouldn't be. If you're interested in him, I think you can say what you want, which is, you know what?

I don't really like the dick pics. Maybe. Sorry. You're saying you are saying that a dick pic isn't a deal breaker. Not for me, it would be. Okay. But how about for our writer? How about if.

Well, clearly I think she thinks it's a deal breaker. She's not into it. So what does she do if she gets the dick pic? Well, my point is when you're in this single life, it seems like that is kind of the business card of choice, right? It's like guys are sending dick pics left, right, and center. This is what we've gauged from our single friends. It seems like it's like the thing that happens all the time.

So it can't, I'm not saying it doesn't have to be a deal breaker for it is, it is. But if you're interested in a guy and you're like, oh, things are going well, and then he just sends you the dick pic, instead of cutting him off right away, I think it's okay to maybe suggest to the person, you know what? That's not my thing. How about if you, like, whatever your, like, kink is, maybe you throw that back in his face and say, I don't, like, how about if you send me you, I don't know, in the shower or, like, just, like, you topless or whatever the fuck.

Topless is not what I wanted to say. But do you know what I mean? Like, show me your bare chest. That really gets me off. Right. Like, can't you maybe open the text dialogue that way? Like, ask the person to give you what you want as opposed to a fucking thing that you don't want to see.

Yeah. You know? I agree. Okay. So, if it's not a deal breaker for you, hey, it's, again, totally fine if you're not down with the dick pic. Yes. Get it.

Nothing is wrong with you. That said, where do you go from there? Yeah. Yeah. And I think if you want to go somewhere with somebody… Give feedback on the dick pic. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Or ask for a different kind of dick pic. Like, maybe the reason why you don't like dick pics is the same reason we just said. Like, they're just so fucking aggressive. Yeah. Maybe you can, maybe you can, like, you know, pass a note on. Like, here's a note. Yeah. Hey, next time, next time can your dick pic be, like, next time can your dick pic be less

aggressive? Yeah. Yeah. Well, probably not. I don't know if you'd say less aggressive. Maybe you can say how you want it to be. So not so angry. Yeah.

Okay. Hope this helped. Two chicks who've never seen dick pics anyway. Well, we've seen them, but yeah, we've never been the recipient. While every other channel is fighting for your customer's attention, podcasts are where they've already given it. No one accidentally listens to a podcast for 45 minutes. They choose to be here.

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went to school with this guy, let's call him B, from grades one to 12. We were always friends, but became really good friends in grade 11 and 12. I've never had feelings for B, but I knew in high school he had a crush on me. I had asked him about it a few times, but he always assured me that I was like a sister to him. We kind of lost touch after high school and we went to post-secondary in separate cities,

but we remained friends. Fast forward a few years later, I was home for summer and B and I started hanging out. It felt like no time had passed and I still considered him one of my best friends. As the summer went on, B started acting more distant towards me and our interactions were less and less friendly.

I took some space from him, and after that, we didn't talk for nearly two years. After two years of silence, I had finally moved home for good and reached out to B. He apologized right away for acting like an immature asshole and said he was very happy to be hanging out again. That summer, we started hanging out a lot. For clarification, all of our hangouts were always in groups, never alone, as we had a lot of mutual friends. I was so happy to have B back in my life because he truly is one of my best friends. As the summer progressed, I began to notice changes in the way B acted towards me. He would get very territorial around me when he had too much to drink and would often storm out of parties or the bar if I didn't hang out with him or if I talked to other guys.

One night, I asked a mutual friend of ours what was going on. He told me that B was in love with me and felt like I always led him on and then never made a move or would purposely flirt with other guys to make him jealous. I immediately felt terrible, but our mutual friend assured me that I didn't treat B any differently than any of our other guy friends. After I found out what was going on, I talked to B and told him flat out I would never feel that way about him. I know that sounds harsh, but I wanted to be honest with him and didn't want to give him false hope. Fast forward to today.

It's been about three years since all this went down and both of us are engaged and happy in our separate relationships. I've been keeping tabs on B over the years via social media and mutual friends because I genuinely want what's best for him and it hurts not to be able to be part of his life. Now the advice part. Should I let my friendship with B go? I want to reach out especially now knowing he's in a solid relationship but I'm also scared I

could do something to screw it up B was one of the best friends I've ever had and it kills me to think that I'd go to my wedding without him being there and also to think about not being at his I was B's first love and I'm scared if I reach out we'll all fall back into the same cycle any advice would be greatly appreciated oh this is a good this is a good one okay so he's been in love with her forever forever she's never been in love with him no you did the right thing and being straight with your feelings like three years ago where you were like not gonna happen and clearly that was the impetus he needed to move on and find somebody else he's proposed to that person he's about to be married you're about to be married now you want to reach out right

that's the summary? Correct. Okay. Absolutely not. No. No. Because there are sometimes there's always that one person in your life that has scarred you and the scar tissue is there. And if you just do one little scratch, it opens it up again. Yeah. And I don't think, I think if you really want to be B's good friend, then you are B, you have to be B's phantom friend, which means You can never actually be in his life, but you can care for him from afar. Sometimes loving someone in like the most sort of generous way is to love them from afar, is to release them. Totally.

And you did that by being straight up and honest. You released him. And I would worry too that if she made contact, it would fuck him up. And you know what? And I don't want to be like, me too. But I know that there are two people that if I ever reached out to them and they are quote unquote happy married children, I could straight fuck them up. And I know that.

One in particular, I know that I could. Who? This was not in your time. Maybe one of them. The other one probably was. Really? Yeah. Yes.

Okay. But there's one that I dated in university, and I know that if I ever came back and was like, let's just be friends, it would not be good. Look at the power you have. Don't you have that power? I think all of us have one of those people in our lives. No? Mm-mm.

Sorry. Especially not since I've said before, like 99% of the past people I've been with, I hate them. Right. Or they disgust me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I have also said that in a public forum. Yes.

Like I've said on television. You have. Hey, everybody, I've dated in the past. You're disgusting. And it's not that those guys would want to be with me actually probably in real life, but it's that history or that time, that moment in time in your life where everything was amazing. And in reality, it wasn't.

It would never work out. But you still hold on to that. Right. So yeah, I would let be, just be free. He does not need you to come creeping back in to like watch you get married. It's the ultimate love in many ways is when you care about someone, you do what's best for them and not really what's best for you. Like, you know, I get it. She was like, I can't picture not being a part, him not being a part of my wedding day and I'm not a part of his.

But that's about you. Absolutely. And what's about him straight up right now is he's happy. you're clearly like keeping tabs on him making sure he's doing well and that should be enough yeah um like seriously unless you hear otherwise you know but i i i was toying with the idea of suggesting to her don't fucking reach out to him but you could send him an invitation to your wedding so that it's clear like i don't want any part of you i want you to know i'm getting married But then even then, I would be like, that guy was so, like, so bonkers over you that

you don't know how he's going to read into that. I'm not totally sold on this, so don't kill me. But what do you think about the idea of her maybe sending him like a present, a wedding present to him? No. No. I think that if you want to send a wedding gift, but typically, like, after the fact, typically you only send people wedding gifts if you're invited to the wedding.

right? Well, but that's what I'm saying. Could it not just be a gesture of like, I'm so happy for you? Don't send a wedding gift alone. Only send a wedding gift if your name is on the card with like five other people. Okay. Okay. Right. Right. Then it's, then it's pretty clear. How about if he invites her to his wedding? Should she go? If he invites her to his wedding? oh that's a good one too um i would i would go and just look really gross or something or like i wouldn't be capable of that sorry okay no no like i oh i wouldn't like i i would have too much pride like i wouldn't want that for her oh i wouldn't want to look gross okay okay fine yeah so let's go back to this because this is actually i i'm not sure i have to like

let this ruminate, but would she, should she go? If she's a true, really good friend, I would say you wouldn't go. You don't go, you send a gift. Yeah. Group gift. Yeah. Another group gift. Yeah. You go in with somebody and you go in with people and like, maybe you can contribute more. But are people listening to this being like, well, fuck, maybe she isn't all that. Maybe he actually has moved on and realized that he doesn't want to be with her. And then that would be rude for her not to go. Okay. But like too bad, so sad.

You just take that risk. Don't you think? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Send a gift, group gift. Yeah. Okay.

Basically, just let him be. And besides, like, you know, maybe not travel right now anyway, coronavirus. Absolutely. Stay where you are, everyone. Don't fucking go anywhere. Okay, last question. Hi, Sasha.

Oh, sorry, she didn't say her name. Hi, Sasha. Love your podcast. Thanks for great content. I have a work question for you. I've been working at my current job for three and a half years now and have gradually worked my way up to a director position. I officially started in my new role two weeks ago and it's going well so far.

My dilemma is this. How do I navigate work relationships with colleagues on my team who have become my friends? Before my promotion, I was their peer and now my role has evolved to being their boss. My old boss is telling me I can't be friends with people who report to me, while others are telling me that as long as there are boundaries at work and no favoritism, it should be okay. What is your take on this? Lainey, how do you manage being in a boss position with the friends under you? Thanks for your advice.

Tony, a woman. Okay. The letter was sent to me, but really she just wants your advice. Amazing. No, but it's true, right? This is what happens. I mean, all of your writers are your friends and you are our boss. I'm not.

Oh, shut up. Just fucking yes. Even Kathleen is always like, my boss, my boss, my boss. No, I don't see it that way. And also it's, there are so many different ways of looking at that because if you really want to look at it that way, then when I go on a shoot with you, you're my boss. Yeah, I am. Like as my producer.

Yes. I really feel like that. I have no problem. Like you are my boss for Lainey Gossip, for this podcast. And when it comes to an e-talk shoot and I am your producer, I am, but I'm your boss. You're like, get in there. Yes. Do the thing. Oh my God. I have so, I find so much pleasure in it. Like the only time that I can boss you around and because you are such a good employee, you do listen.

Ask it this way. Go stand there. Oh, to eat shit. I'm not that much of a cow. But I, and I, and I recognize that that is the dynamic when the environment changes and I'm totally okay with it. I also, my husband's best friend is my boss at work and that actually was a bit trippy at first. I was like, how am I going to be, how do I report to someone who I like party with? And at first I was like, is that going to be weird? And if you don't, and I think it's like as easy as if you don't make it weird, it's not weird.

Yeah. And also don't talk about work when you're out socially. Yeah. Right. Aren't those like just the two rules that you must put in place? Set your boundaries. Yeah. And I think that this is, I definitely think that there are two schools of thought, obviously.

The person who gave her the advice, you can't be friends with your colleagues or you can't be friends, is there are a lot of people who adhere to that. There are a lot of people who think that that is gospel. And then there are people like us. I don't know if it's our industry though. in our industry kind of in the culture field almost everybody is kind of friends with like people they work with sure and i wonder if more and more with the gig economy and everybody's working how many jobs i have to take a break i can't breathe my dog just farted at me i thought

you were gonna say you can't breathe because of your lungs at coronavirus oh my god oh that hasn't made its way over to me oh it's so bad oh god i don't want that to come over here oh my jesus what kind of parents are you what are you feeding this these fucking poor animals it's i honestly i can't i it hasn't even gotten over here this is great this makes me feel so much safer that the air has not come over here oh okay okay is every the okay the drama over okay so more and more um these days with everyone working multiple jobs and you've heard about millennial burnout the gig economy um people feeling insecure in their workplaces you're spending more and more time working and the people you work with are going to be the people

you see the most, you spend the most time with, hopefully naturally some friendships will work out. Like this is going to happen. And I don't know, this is going to happen more and more. And I don't know that like it is realistic anymore to adhere to back, I don't know, 40 years ago when you punched in at an office and then you just left and you didn't have to see those people when it wasn't the time to see them. So, yeah, communication has to be that much clearer where it's understood like, hey, when we're doing this thing, this is what the rules are.

Yeah. But I also think, don't you think it also comes down to personality? Like, if you are someone in a director position, do you treat your employees like they're less than or that they must do what you say and it's very black and white? If you do, I think that's when problems will arise with your friendships. But if you are like a good friend, like you are a good boss or a good director, your dog just fucking just shit all over my sentence. Oh my God. Another one. I can't. I don't smell anything.

Is that because I have coronavirus and don't have any sense of smell anymore? It's so bad. I don't remember what I was saying. Yeah, because. Right. I wasn't exaggerating. You know this now. Fair.

Fine, fine. I'm right here. Yes. Wait, let me just try to pick this up. Okay, yes. So it comes down to personality. If you lead your office, if you lead your employees with some kind of weirdo hierarchy, then yes, the friendships will probably be ruined.

But if you can be a good leader and a good boss, Lainey, I'm looking at you. This is your compliment time. You are, you tell us what you want, but you don't do it in a way where you're swinging your fucking dick and you make us feel insecure or less than. If you're able to do that, then your relationships can still exist. And I think it just comes down to that. Like, read some books about how to be a really good leader or how to be a really good female boss and start figuring out how you can do that because you can maintain your friendships

while being in a leader position. It just, it can happen. It's possible. It's not impossible. I understand there are certain circumstances where it is impossible, and I've seen it happen. But that's when people get ego, don't you think? Like, think about the times that it doesn't happen. Is it ego?

And I think it's ego both ways. I think it's some people, right? Yes, you're right. It's not even, like, so to speak, top-down ego. It could be, like, lower and up. And yet, like, obviously we shouldn't even speak about it in those terms where there's levels. Right. Um, and listen, I've, I've read enough management study research and all that to know, like

you've heard about the inverted pyramid style of leadership where the leader really all they're doing is supporting the team. Um, and listen, I think a lot of people adhere to that and they think it works and, and they have good relationships with their team and even friendships with their team. so we clearly you and I are of the school of thought that it's possible it can work so for the person who wrote to us yes um it can work if you follow your instincts and lead with compassion and integrity you can still maintain those friendships I would definitely disagree with the person who gave you the advice that you can't make this happen but it requires like

so much focus and presence. Like I think that you always have to have it on your mind. Like it can't be something that, you know, it requires conscious effort. How about that? It isn't effortless. So how about if you were in a magazine interview and they asked you, Lainey, what is the one thing that you do as, you know, own the shit as a boss? And how do you lead your writers? Like How would you say that you make like an equal platform for everybody to feel like they're all encompassed in this brand under you? Honestly, I think for me, just across the board, leadership or not, I don't think there are any question marks when I interact with people.

Like you always know what I'm thinking. Yeah. Okay. And I… Yeah. I think that for me, what's most frustrating is I hate when I don't know what someone means. yeah

yep that makes me that is the thing that makes me crazy like say what you want to say yeah are you saying this because you want this

like or are you saying this because you mean this like I be clear and that's how you communicate with us I think that yeah

I think that in for as long as we've known each other and it's getting to be a long time it's already a long time I don't think there's been any doubt

like if you just look at my face you know what that's true yes yeah and I think when and I've been in

situations with you and you too but in situations I know when you want more and you say it and there, I know that our, like our friendship isn't up in the mix. Yeah. Which I think is important too. Okay.

So good luck with that. Yeah. Let us know how that goes. I do think that you will, it is a bit of a way of just like letting go of that. Like don't build anxiety around it because then everyone will fucking feel weird. Don't make people feel weird about it. And most likely it won't be weird. Is it weird if I tell you?

I love that smell on you. Like, what is it? Is it your own thing? Did you make that? What, I just spritz? Yeah. It's an angel spray. What do you mean it's an angel spray?

It's a spray of an angel. Truly, it's like the wiggiest shit ever. What? Did you make it? No, I didn't make it. But it's very florally. You like that? It's so good.

Oh, okay. I really like it. Anyway. Okay. That's it for today. Keep your questions coming to me at Sasha at LaineyGossip.com. And subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts, leave comments and reviews. Thank you so much for listening.

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