What's Your Drama - What’s Your Drama: Breast Tests and D!ck Dilemmas
Episode Date: June 24, 2021We are talking about mammograms today so if anyone wants to participate in the conversation please feel free to slip into my emails. After we talk about making our breasts sandwiches we are ready to e...at up your drama!Our first writer is trying to get her groove back but the guy she has her eye on might cause some family conflict. So does dick trump all? I mean, yeah it does.Then it's on to Lizzie who is looking for some closure after her friend Alice did her dirty. But things are getting complicated because Alice might be her new colleague and they haven't talked since Alice got with Lizzie's boyfriend. Awkward!!! Finally we end with Jane and her friend triangle drama. Here's the Cole's notes: Jane and her friend Marc used to bone. But now they are just friends. But Marc's new girlfriend doesn't know about their deep dicking past. So do Jane and Marc have to come clean or can they pretend it never happened? We hope you enjoy the show and keep sending me all your DRAMA! Send your advice questions my way at sasha@laineygossip.com. We also love hearing from you on Twitter at @sasha_tong and @laineygossip and Instagram at @lostandfoundapothecary and @laineygossip. And of course subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and make sure to leave feedback and comments because it helps others find our show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I'm very strongly considering getting over my ex
by getting under someone new.
Okay, do we have to keep reading
because I'm in full support of this?
I knew you would.
Do that.
Do that.
Do whatever that is.
Hi, I'm Lainey Louie,
talk show host and entertainment reporter.
I'm also the editor of laineygossip.com
and I am a BTS fan.
Yeah, you are.
I'm Sasha Tong.
I am a producer at an entertainment show here in Canada.
I'm also a fashion and beauty columnist on LaineyCoffee.com.
And I am not a big BTS fan.
But this is What's Your Drama, where we gossip about you.
So you're getting your tit pressed.
I'm getting my tit pressed.
Is that what it's medically called?
Well, that's how I picture it now.
because i listen i haven't had a mammogram yet i guess eventually i'll be due and i didn't know
like i thought it was like you lie down and then they come around with like a little wand
and they i love how everything is a spa for you you lie down and someone brings you something yeah
a massager. I don't think that's how it's going to go down for me. So I didn't know that a mammogram
involves you standing. Yeah. And then, um, a machine clamps your tit. And now I picture it
like a George Foreman grill. I would think so. Yeah. Right. Without. And yeah. Yeah. The George
Foreman grill. Uh, it's like a panini press. It's a panini press for your tits. Yes. Panini
presses your your tit and then you have to do it like from whatever 16 different angles and it
hurts are you they're talking but you're talking about it like you know what's going on see i am
going for my first one on thursday i have no idea typically i'm such a freak that i will look up
everything i'll look up all the videos but for some reason i just don't want to know what i'm
walking into because it's a standard procedure people get it done all the time it's as you were
just about to say it's like so important everyone should be doing that if they can especially if
they have a history of breast cancer in their family but I like don't I'm like I don't want
a panini press I don't want that so like everything in my head is like well maybe I shouldn't go on
Thursday like there's something like I don't really need to go you have to go okay but how
much is it gonna hurt because when my when Bowie steps on my tits the pain is insane but it's a
But she steps into my tit, not the other way.
Do you know what I mean?
She like pushes into my tit as opposed to.
So I'm hoping that's a different pain.
I think it.
OK, don't be mad about what I'm going to say, but I think it's going to be painful for you.
Because I have small tits.
Yeah.
I think it's painful, period.
But especially for smaller chested women.
Why?
Oh, why?
I don't want it.
Because there's less to get.
There's less, like right now I'm trying to pancake my tits and like I have bigger tits
than you and there's not much to grab.
Like I'm trying to like, I'm trying to recreate a George Foreman experience around my tits.
And.
Yeah.
Like, so I think it's going to be like the process of getting that much flesh.
Into the thing.
Is going to be, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not looking forward to it.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's important to emotionally prepare yourself.
But the way that you just said 16 different ways, what do you mean?
They're going to, do you know that for a fact that they're going to push my tits into a
panini press 16 different ways?
One of them?
You were there when our friend told us who's had a mammogram before.
She didn't say 16.
Okay, fine.
I might have been exaggerating a little, but like four per side or something like that.
They said that you're, like, in and out within 15 minutes.
So if you're doing, like, if they're, like, pushing your tits into, like, you know, like, using it as Play-Doh, like, that's going to take some time.
So I imagine that they know what they're doing.
It's not like I'm the first person with small tits in there.
So they know how to, like, maneuver my tit into the press.
They know exactly what they're doing.
And it's just that, you know, for the whatever, 10-second, 3-second clamp time, it's not going to be pretty.
it is the extreme version of like it'll go quickly but you know when you go to the dentist and they
have to take the x-rays and they jam that card and you're choking and you're gonna barf everywhere
and oh my god and it's so fucking sharp it's cutting your gums it's cutting the inside of
your mouth and it takes and then they go around i don't know the other side of the wall and it goes
and then they come out and take it i i imagine it's like the the like that times a hundred great
thank you for that just great great this is airing on thursday and by the time um people
will probably write me it will have been done um but i'm just hoping that when this does land on
your site that people will be thinking of me and knowing that i will be making a vegetable roast
panini on my chest that's what will be happening grading scale like you i because i mean eventually
i'm gonna have to go you know at a certain age it's a standard procedure so i i need you to like
properly scale the pain and i have a very high pain tolerance you i really suspect do not
yeah i don't know what do you mean you don't know i feel like i complain yes
but you can endure but i can endure okay i don't know yeah um yeah anyway i don't know either this
is a roll in the dice here i will i will give you a scale because everybody i've talked to who
has had a mammogram it's like they have like ptsd and don't want to talk to you about it
Like, they go, oh, it just really hurts.
And it's like, but what?
Give me more details on the pain threshold that I need to have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I will be, I will let you know.
Do the public service.
I will do the public service.
So next episode is our final episode before we leave.
It is?
Yes.
You're telling me now.
We're going to be on hiatus.
Before we break for the summer.
Okay.
Before we break for the summer.
So on the next episode, you can give everybody the 100.
I will.
On the mammogram.
Okay.
Sounds good.
okay let's get to our questions first question hey Sasha and Lainey I'm 26 recently single from
a four-year relationship I'm still grieving that relationship and seeing as we're slowly but surely
going back to normal life I'm very strongly considering getting over my ex by getting
under someone new okay do we have to keep reading because I'm in full support of this
I knew you would.
Do that.
Do that.
Do whatever that is.
Okay.
The advice is do that.
Let's move on.
See?
Okay.
It's easy to do those.
Okay.
Okay.
Anyway, as we continue, this person continues, I'm very strongly considering, oh, okay.
I'm not looking for commitment, just something super casual.
Harry, okay.
Harry recently slid into my DMs on Insta when he found out I was single.
Harry is hot and funny, and that's about all I'm looking for right now.
I would get under him in a heartbeat if he wasn't my little brother's childhood BFF.
Ah.
He had a major crush on me back in the day, but I only saw him as a sweet, chubby little puppy.
He sure as heck went through an amazing glow-up.
He's no longer super close with my brother, but they're still part of the same friend circle.
My brother's not speaking to me right now because of some silly family drama, but we'll get over it.
I do know that he wouldn't like me sleeping with his friend
and would think I'm purposefully trying to hurt him
if something went down with Harry.
Okay, now it gets a little bit more complicated.
That being said, I really want to jump that guy.
So do you have any advice on how to get some
without having it turn into a big drama?
Oh, and for the record, Harry's 22.
So we're totally legal consenting adults here.
Okay, well, so Harry and the brother,
let's call the brother William.
Okay.
Harry and this person's brother.
Um, so this person, I mean, let's not call her Kate or Megan.
Let's call this person Tabitha.
Okay.
That is a very, that goes very well with William.
Okay.
So Tabitha's brother, Harry, is not, no, Tabitha's brother, William, is no longer that close to
Harry, but probably Will wouldn't like Tabitha and Harry fucking.
But then, which is like, we'll have to know.
Well, I'm saying, A, does Will have to know?
And by the time that Will and Tabitha are talking, Harry and Tabitha will have fucked enough times that it'll be over and done with by that time.
Do you know what I mean?
I guess the danger, though.
There is a danger.
Harry's had a crush on Tabitha forever.
So is Harry going to turn into a, like, a clinger?
Or is he just going to catch feelings?
And could Tabitha catch feelings?
Possible.
Right now, Tabitha just wants to go in there, get herself filled, one and done, bye Harry, thank you so much.
And Harry might be like, Tabitha, I've waited.
But that's Harry's problem, right?
Yeah, but then Harry could tell Will or be like a fucking heat score and then their secret will be exposed.
I guess my point is I just don't think it needs to be a secret.
it like unfortunately all you would have to say was hey William um we weren't talking at the time
and it seemed like a very strange thing for me to reach out and tell you that I was gonna get like
my groove on with your friend like if that's gonna like that's fine if uh William has feelings about
that but like really is it gonna really cause that big of a fucking situation especially when
William and Harry are really just running in the same circles they're not so tight it would be
really weird if William no if Harry was like down the line hey William I fucked your sister like
who would say that I guess guys would say that of the same circle circle friend circle they're
not tight tight tight anymore friend circle that means like fucking you see them at a party here
and there I don't know I'm for Tabitha getting under fucking Harry and doing what she needs to
do scratch that fucking itch a hungry girl's gotta eat and then deal with whatever happens
afterwards chances are it will be like a one and done sort of thing and everyone will be moved like
everyone will move on and no one will know that's what I would do I would totally roll the dice on
this it's worth it's worth rolling the dice yes I would also totally roll the dice on this but
I would Tabitha what Tabitha is asking for is okay here's what Tabitha needs but but Tabitha's
advice on how to get some without having it turn into a big drama well you just there might be a
big drama but isn't it worth it i also just don't think but i don't think do you think that would
cause a lot of drama yes why if she's already predicting it's gonna cause a lot of drama then
like she knows something we don't know well or whatever dynamic will has with his friend group
and she knows her brother.
She knows his personality.
She knows that he wouldn't be chill
with like one person in his friend group
knowing the literally inner workings of his sister.
So that's a fact.
In their family, some families, nobody cares.
Like, you know, in some families,
everybody's cool with it.
In this family, it's not the case.
So how can Tabitha go about her business with Harry
without causing maybe you maybe listen Tabitha it's up to you like you need to understand whether
or not Harry can be discreet right is Harry the type who's gonna be like yo Will I fucking boned
your sister man it was so good right or can you keep it on the DL and Brad and whatever like don't
tell Will but I fucking boned his sister and it was so good like is Harry that dude all dudes are
Harry that dude Harry's gonna tell somebody and it'll eventually most likely we'll get back to
William who cares is what I'm saying it's not like like sorry so this is her younger brother
right yes well so what she's the older fucking sibling she can fuck whoever the fuck she wants
to fuck she doesn't need permission and she doesn't need a cosign and you know William will
be okay William will have to get over it and just deal with it truly who cares yeah get your fuck on
for this get your fuck on and also maybe harry summertime yes we've been like trapped indoors
fuck whoever you want that's your excuse if he's ever mad be like i'm very sorry but i was trapped
indoors and like my pussy got the best of me the horny took over horny took over i'm very sorry i
will never do that again yeah still though tabitha i mean it doesn't mean that you know you have to
like Instagram a shot of Harry's
dick inside of you. No. You know, like
no. Right. We advise not to
do that.
Still be discreet and still like
have a very casual conversation
with Harry being like, hey, you know what? My
brother probably wouldn't be like cool with this.
So can we just keep it between
us? Yeah. And
be prepared too, Tabitha.
Let's be realistic that if Harry is
hot and funny and so good, you
might want to go back for seconds and thirds
and that is a level of complication
we're not dealing with here
because you seem to think
that you can one-and-done this situation,
but that's when there might be weirdness,
you know, if Tabitha and Harry...
But we're not touching that right now.
No.
Because I don't...
Get back...
Yeah.
Because I'm looking forward to the sequel.
Me too.
I'm looking forward to the sequel
and I also just, like,
want to make this as clean as possible for us.
Do you know what I mean?
Sequel with photos would be great.
Yeah.
Photos?
What photos are you asking for?
Just a headshot.
Oh, of Harry.
Like, yeah.
Okay, great.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't ask for payment or any payback, but we do ask for pictures.
So a picture of Harry, you're welcome.
Yeah.
And if you need to hit us up with a sequel, but for now, yes.
Discreetly, go about your business.
Blame COVID.
Yes.
Blame horniness.
Get your summer fucking on.
You know, live.
Everybody, go out and live.
Yes, if you're double vaxxed, go live.
Okay, next.
Hey, Sasha and Lainey, my ex-roommate and I met four years ago on a language exchange app.
I was trying to learn French then.
Alice is from France, and she was trying to improve her English because she had gotten a job in New York.
I was living with my parents and dying to move out of my hometown in the middle of nowhere.
Alice and I got along so well that when she got here, I found a job in New York, and we decided to get an apartment together.
We were having a blast and living the dream.
Then I met Jake and fell really hard for him.
We dated for almost a year before I found out he's a fucking cheating asshole.
Wow.
I broke up with Jake in May 2019.
I was hurt and felt broken for a long time.
Alice really stepped in and took care of me.
I'm an only child, and I always wanted to have a sibling,
and we developed a really strong bond, and she became as close to a sister as I've ever had.
In February 2020, I found out that Alice had been dating Jake.
Wow.
I don't think that can go on.
Keep it.
From what she told me, after he and I broke up, I blocked him everywhere so he wouldn't contact me.
He then reached out to her because he was worried about me and hoping to find a way to fix things between us.
Oh, as if.
Somewhere along the way, they started talking and getting to know each other and caught feelings and all that bullshit.
I was really pissed and heartbroken and asked her to move out.
I'm pretty sure she moved in with Jake.
We stopped talking and then COVID and lockdown happened.
I was depressed for a long time.
tried online therapy a couple times but it wasn't a good fit my income was cut in half i was
struggling for a while then had to move back in with my parents at the end of last year
cut to today i've been looking for a job in new york i'd really love to move back after a series
of unsuccessful interviews i finally got an offer my problem is i found out during the zoom interview
that alice is also working at the same company and she was on the panel interviewing me fuck no
this has to be a joke this is not this is not real keep going come on it actually it actually
seems so crazy unreal but the way she writes it it's real it's legit this chick isn't fucking
with us we wouldn't necessarily work together all the time but she'd have authority to ask me to
join in on some of her projects after she moved out she tried to reach out many times and i ended
up blocking her. I haven't heard from her until now. After the interview she emailed me apologizing
telling me they broke up not long after she moved out of our place. She said she put in the work to
gain back my trust if I gave her a chance. She misses me and I'm the closest thing she ever had
to a real friend or family in the U.S. I never got closure from how things ended with Jake and Alice
and it did feel good to read her email but I still hold a lot of resentment especially towards her
for what happened that said this job would be a great opportunity for me to get back on track
professionally what would you do if you were in my shoes thanks lizzie wow wow right what
like if you wrote this on a tv show people would be like no fucking way this is so unrealistic and
turn it off okay yeah but my brain could but my brain couldn't even make up something like that
like it would i know some people could but like if it's made up congratulations easily shockable
Like you are. Pardon me? Like, yeah. You're always like, who would do that? Oh, my God.
This is and I'm like, Sasha, people are fucked out there. OK, well, I would hope that our listeners
aren't fucked. But even if they are, this one's still really delicious and we should probably
dive in. OK, so Lizzie and Alice. First of all, there's two questions here. Should Lizzie take
the job? What should she do? And the second question is, what should she do about Alice?
So let's start with the work.
Yeah.
Well, the most important thing I think here is career.
This is what she has been waiting for.
It's a good opportunity.
It doesn't sound like they'd be working side by side, but there would definitely be some interaction.
I would never, more likely than not, I wouldn't let personal issues get in the way of career advancement.
So if we're just talking about that, I say if the job is offered, definitely take it.
Because, sorry, what's the chick who's writing in?
I never remember anything.
Lizzie.
Lizzie didn't do anything wrong in this situation.
So she sure as shit shouldn't be punished or blocked from any opportunity because of that.
So take all the things that come your way.
So that's where I stand on that.
I imagine you agree.
I agree.
I think that, Lizzie, I think that you want to get back to New York.
You want to be in New York, take the job, and it sounds like a good job,
but also you don't have to see it as like a job that locks you into New York forever
or that you have to be locked into the job.
Just get your foot back in the door first, right?
You've had a series of setbacks, starting with Fuckface Jake
and then all kinds of other shit, and now things are starting to turn around
and in like feng shui talk you you that's the energy flow the energy flow right now is good
for you so take this job ride it out if you find that for whatever reason the situation with alice
isn't great at least you have this job to sit on make money from and then go jump somewhere else
like you know so do not let the alice drama cloud your opinion about this job opportunity you are
number one your career is number one this is great a great job for your career do it okay but how
about how do we so maybe the predicament here that I just thought about is how do we know like
does Lizzie have to play nice with Alice right now because Alice just sent the email in order to get
the job like that's where it's murky for me is like obviously Alice is on the board of hiring
right? She was part of the panel. She will probably have some input. Alice already emailed
Lizzie after the interview and was like, let's bridge this gap. Does, should Lizzie, does Lizzie
need to, um, write her back or no? I say no. No, I don't think Lizzie needs to write her back today.
In fact, I'd keep it, I'd keep it clean. Like if you get the job, Lizzie, that's one thing,
But until you find out about the job, I wouldn't write her back yet.
Right.
Okay.
So let's talk about.
All that separate.
Let's talk now about the relationship.
Okay.
So do you think she should.
No, do you think she should?
I think that.
I think that.
I don't think that things are healed overnight.
so my answer isn't like i don't know if i can answer directly like yeah get back together yeah
be friends i would play it out like you know if you're colleagues then if you end up being
colleagues then you gradually work into a colleague relationship but is that forgivable
like what lizzie did not lizzie sorry what the fuck's her name my brain is so stupid right now
what alice did was like literally flip through a dictionary of shady like that is
some real bad friend like that's that's that's bad how do you forget how do you forgive someone
of how do you forgive someone even though really fuck face jake was a fuck face and thank god
Lizzie got rid of him but her really forgiveness is like yeah but the whole premise of forgiveness
is that like if forgiveness was easy like forgiveness is based on the fact of that
someone has wronged you in a wrong way but this is really wrong I don't know my I guess
what the question is, is this forgivable for a friend? It depends on the person. And if Lizzie
is writing to us, she's considering it. There are people out there who wouldn't write to us
because they've already made the decision. But clearly Lizzie is the kind of person who
is capable, right? If she's mulling it over, then for her, this is something she would and
is considering forgiving and that's who we're dealing with here okay i don't think friendship
with um alice should be on the table like i don't know i'm just dumb right now um i don't think
alice and lizzie friendship should be on the table anytime soon like that's why i'm sort of
i don't even want to even go there because i don't even think that lizzie should be contemplating it
I think Lizzie can contemplate what it will look like to be colleagues with her, which is what you
were talking about, Lainey, before I cut you off. I think that is salvageable. I think that is
doable. I think that, that they could continue to have a work relationship that was like super
above board. But in terms of like getting back and like being buds again, I don't, I don't know.
Like that seems, I don't know how I, I don't think I could trust someone after that. Like they would,
I know that she's ready to prove herself to Lizzie but like that's gonna take a long ass
fucking time yeah it will and that's why you that's a process of a process of rebuilding
does take time and it's you you don't heal overnight and it's gonna be ugly if that is
the decision but the equivalent that I am thinking about right now and we have talked I think a lot
of times about how friendships are just like romantic relationships like you have to nurture
them and they build and they ebb and they flow much in the same way as romantic relationships
so if it's possible for a partner a romantic partner to forgive another for infidelity
then in this scenario should you want to it should also be possible for a friendship to
be repaired after this kind of betrayal, right? If a couple can get back together, and many have,
I know people who have successfully gotten back together after infidelity because they were
willing to work on it and they were not willing to walk away from the relationship. I can't say
that about myself, but I have observed it in others. And clearly Lizzie is at least
open to the concept. She's asking about it. So in that respect, I think it's possible,
Lily. I think it's possible, Lizzie. I just don't think it's going to be overnight. And I don't
think you have enough cards to read yet in terms of what your next move is. So my advice right now
is just to focus on the job. If you get the job, then take it day by day in terms of relating to
each other as colleagues first yeah and then slowly see whether or not you really want to heal
and repair yeah i agree yeah um but that is some that is a fuck that's totally right i'm still not
over the mind fuck of like her signing in on zoom and then seeing fucking alice's face that would be
fucking horrible we'll wait until you get to this next question because it's sort of same same but
different what yeah okay okay anyway well I mean Lizzie keep us posted communicating with these
people Lizzie yeah Lizzie keep us posted you're the one communicating with these people and I
guess they're real people and they're sending in their real situations but these this is like wow
okay um final question hi Sasha Atlini I met my best friend Mark in college here's a quick recap
of our relationship we dated in college for about 10 months then friends with benefits on and off
for three years. Then there was a period of time when we hated each other. Then back to friends,
hooked up once, which was an obvious mistake to both of us. And we've worked through a lot of
stuff to now be BFF. Okay. Got it. That's pretty standard. No, it's not, but okay. You see,
like I go on, just go on, go on. Like it's not standard. Never. I've never had a relationship
with a friend like that.
You haven't.
This is what I mean.
Listen, I am talking about it from me.
Me, Sasha.
I'm talking about this shit from my experience.
Me, never done that.
But go on.
Mark sounds like a real winner.
About seven months ago,
about seven months ago,
he met Layla.
Mark and I are really close,
so she didn't like me very much.
When they officially became boyfriend and girlfriend,
I strongly advised him to tell her our whole story.
He doesn't want to.
I'm four months pregnant
and having the baby on my own.
since, come on. I love that reaction. Okay, go on. This is a reality shit. Like now I'm, okay.
Anyway, I'm four months pregnant and having the baby on my own. Since learning of my pregnancy,
Layla and I became really close. She's been surprisingly open with me and very supportive.
I've been going through a lot of drama lately, but Mark and Layla have both been there for me
every single time I needed them,
which brings me to my question.
I feel super guilty that she doesn't know
our dating history.
Was it the other way around?
I'd be pissed not knowing
and would most likely feel betrayed
when I found out later down the road.
With COVID and everything,
she is yet to meet our people
and some of them we've known since college.
Mark says it's been too long
at this point to bring it up.
He fears it would stir up unnecessary drama
in both of our relationships with Layla
and make his life much more complicated than needed.
He insisted I don't tell her anything
But my guts have been telling me that if not from either one of us, she could find out from a third party and I don't see how it could play out well then.
So what do you think I should do?
Right.
This is real.
This is not a faux letter.
Okay.
What's this person's name?
Because they told us Mark, Layla, and I don't know who this person is.
Can it be really easy?
My brain's, again, not firing.
Can you just call her Lainey?
Jane.
jane jane so jane mark and leila yeah okay wow um oh i don't know only because
if it was any other situation i'd be like yeah like what's the fucking big deal
you guys fucking hit it way long ago that's what everyone does right that's
mm-hmm it's kind of standard behavior in university i guess um but you kind of have
to respect your best friend mark who's kind of begging and pleading with you to not say anything
because he must know something about leila and maybe leila like is maybe more jealous of a person
or maybe really insecure or maybe just like doesn't like knowing that her partner's dick
has been in other people that she knows which is valid which is fair i
because it's gonna come out at some point right because there is gonna be a friend who's like
remember when you guys fucking banged or something and then it's gonna be real bad real bad
right yes yes like it's that's the thing i mean if if there were no friends and there wasn't any
i would say leave it like you know it's you're having a baby and but this was decades ago right
like this is decades ago or at least a decade maybe five years okay okay i i would say like
five seven years okay yeah and how do you actually even bring this up that's kind of like where I'm
struggling like when do you go you do sit Layla down or whatever her name is and say hey like we
need to talk to you like you don't want to make it serious either because that fucking adds an
element of like weirdness I like we need to workshop this together because I don't okay
Maybe it's not like maybe Jane is maybe Jane is giving it more because I just reread it.
They were in college together.
Yeah.
Like, you know, and they were in college and they dated for 10 months and then they hated each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And this is college shit.
Right.
Like, you know, it I don't I think that like you putting weight on this is giving what you had the romantic part of what you had with Mark more weight.
Whereas like that was really just the entry to your friendship.
Well, no, but Mark is is carrying a lot of weight to this, too.
He's like, please don't fucking say anything like this is going to go badly.
Mark is putting all the weight on it.
I think our writer, whose name I totally forget again, Jane, right, Jane, wants to say something.
She's like, let's, like, get this out in the open so that it's not weird and we're not hiding a secret.
I think Mark is, like, resistant because Jane is, like, up his ass and being like, we got to tell her, we got to tell her, we got to tell her.
Whereas, like, maybe everybody should just shrug and be like, it was just in college, whatever.
That's how we met.
I think what I would do is because the alternative of having a weird, dramatic sit down conversation about this just seems so over the top and weird to me.
I think it might be best if someone does one day just go, oh, you guys fucking be like, oh, my God, I fucking hated him.
Oh, my God. And kind of pass it off as nothing.
Because once you bring once you bring attention to it, then it makes it feel like it's something you have to have a serious conversation about it.
I think if it comes out in the open and fucking Bob blurts it out and says, oh, right, you too fucked or whatever.
And you'd be like, oh, fuck, that was so long ago and so stupid.
It was so gross, Mark.
No way.
Yeah, we were in second year and like whatever.
And I've, yeah, that's the thing.
That's how you shrug it off.
And then no harm, no foul because you've abided by Mark's rules, which was don't say anything.
And then that's fucking Mark's baggage to deal with, not yours.
you wanted to say what you wanted to say and it wasn't a big deal and then it's really on mark
because mark doesn't want you to spill the beans on that yeah i mean i guess what we're missing
here is like what what is mark's original lie like did he say i don't think he said anything
just wasn't you just probably don't ask like oh did you fuck her yeah oh she's your best friend
did you fuck maybe you would actually I think it's more likely it's more likely because remember
Layla was jealous of Jane so I bet you initially when Layla was being jealous of Jane Mark was
Mark would have been like yeah we're just best friends and nothing happened ever but right so
that's where like that's where they're gonna get caught that is why the shrug scenario might not
work because mark has already laid a lie is that mark's is that isn't that mark's oopsie
yeah but fucking leila is over like basically leila is midwifing jane at this point so it's not
right she will be at the water birth it's not yeah so it's not just mark's problem i know but
oh it's so weird to have this conversation like hey p.s we used to bone bone and also
if you're not gonna get like if mark isn't gonna give you the go-ahead then you're gonna go behind
mark's back i say you know what it's kind of can i say this because i feel like i feel like this
is it's kind of none of her business like just back away from it it's their kind of deal
if mark webbed a lie said a lie that's on him yeah and i mean i know that the fallout could
be that mark and again i don't remember jane um mark and jane might not be friends or there could
be some shit that would like you know pull them apart because maybe leila's like what the fuck
you guys can't be friends because now that you guys i've known that you fucked i don't know it
could be weird it could just all be fucking weird meaning oh i i think this is just like
maybe some spilt milk that's just gonna fucking happen and you're gonna have to deal with it when
it happens how can you pre-plan any of this yeah but also i'm i'm wondering like is leila actually
even gonna care like fucking jane's having a baby clearly leila cares what's that clearly leila must
care or mark wouldn't be so like ass tight about not having this information leaked leila but mark
Layla is now on board with Jane as a friend and is no longer jealous of Jane.
Mark just doesn't want to have to come clean about lying in the first place.
Like Layla has no more issues with Jane.
Again, Layla is practically Jane's midwife.
Right.
So I think the issue here is like, you know.
Trust has been formed between Jane and Layla, right?
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah. And it may not be like when it comes out, hopefully Layla won't care that much that she was lied to by Mark.
But you're right, Sash. I don't think it's Jane's place.
No, no. Especially when Mark has said no. And then it's Mark's mess to clean up.
Yeah. It is Mark's mess to clean up.
But as we said, the best case scenario is that if someone fucking blows the cover, you play it like prepare.
That's what the only thing I think you can do, Jane, is prepare yourself when that comes and blows up in your face in front of everyone.
That was nothing.
Yeah.
Prepare a really good response that like is like, what?
Ew, gross.
That was so long ago and that was barely a thing.
I don't know.
Whatever you need to say, prepare that in your head so that it comes out perfectly eloquently, very casually when that moment happens.
Means nothing.
He's just your best friend.
Oh, hey, look at the baby I had with somebody else that I'm raising on my own.
Yes.
Baby baby.
I love my baby.
I love my baby.
I only care about my baby.
I had a baby with, I'm having a baby with myself.
Yes.
So, you know, like I'm not into your dude because I'm having a baby.
I had a baby.
I'm whatever.
I've moved on.
Yes.
Moved on.
I'm a mother now.
I can't deal with this drama.
Like, come on.
Like, whatever.
Oh, long time ago.
Other priorities now.
Gross, gross, gross, gross.
There you go.
Mark.
Yeah.
There you go.
prepare that and that's all you can really do at this point yes and focus on your pregnancy and
have a nice pregnancy and do not stress about this anymore totally like this is i would stress
about that but it's fine but yeah i don't know i mean like i think that i i think that my also
my other thing is that i think jane you're assigning like you're you're giving too much
energy to this too yeah yeah yeah so and in your mind it's building up so much that you know I'm
worried you're not going to be able to like do the shrug that we need you to do so release that
energy yeah and prepare prepare for that shrug yeah and then forget about it and then just shrug
it off and just be like oh hey remember I'm pregnant and raising this child on my own that's
my priority yeah yeah let's focus on that as Layla's midwifing you imagine if she finds out
Like, while being a doula and giving birth.
Well, Jane, good luck.
Yeah.
Fingers crossed.
That's all I can say.
Yeah.
Good luck.
But again, I think this is also, like, heat scoring itself.
So if you remove the tension from yourself and just be like, yeah, whatever happens happens, then, you know, we're good.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
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