What's Your Drama - What’s Your Drama: Breast Tests and D!ck Dilemmas

Episode Date: June 24, 2021

We are talking about mammograms today so if anyone wants to participate in the conversation please feel free to slip into my emails. After we talk about making our breasts sandwiches we are ready to e...at up your drama!Our first writer is trying to get her groove back but the guy she has her eye on might cause some family conflict. So does dick trump all? I mean, yeah it does.Then it's on to Lizzie who is looking for some closure after her friend Alice did her dirty. But things are getting complicated because Alice might be her new colleague and they haven't talked since Alice got with Lizzie's boyfriend. Awkward!!! Finally we end with Jane and her friend triangle drama. Here's the Cole's notes: Jane and her friend Marc used to bone. But now they are just friends. But Marc's new girlfriend doesn't know about their deep dicking past. So do Jane and Marc have to come clean or can they pretend it never happened?  We hope you enjoy the show and keep sending me all your DRAMA! Send your advice questions my way at sasha@laineygossip.com. We also love hearing from you on Twitter at @sasha_tong and @laineygossip and Instagram at @lostandfoundapothecary and @laineygossip. And of course subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and make sure to leave feedback and comments because it helps others find our show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm very strongly considering getting over my ex by getting under someone new. Okay, do we have to keep reading because I'm in full support of this? I knew you would. Do that. Do that. Do whatever that is.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Hi, I'm Lainey Louie, talk show host and entertainment reporter. I'm also the editor of laineygossip.com and I am a BTS fan. Yeah, you are. I'm Sasha Tong. I am a producer at an entertainment show here in Canada. I'm also a fashion and beauty columnist on LaineyCoffee.com.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And I am not a big BTS fan. But this is What's Your Drama, where we gossip about you. So you're getting your tit pressed. I'm getting my tit pressed. Is that what it's medically called? Well, that's how I picture it now. because i listen i haven't had a mammogram yet i guess eventually i'll be due and i didn't know like i thought it was like you lie down and then they come around with like a little wand
Starting point is 00:01:14 and they i love how everything is a spa for you you lie down and someone brings you something yeah a massager. I don't think that's how it's going to go down for me. So I didn't know that a mammogram involves you standing. Yeah. And then, um, a machine clamps your tit. And now I picture it like a George Foreman grill. I would think so. Yeah. Right. Without. And yeah. Yeah. The George Foreman grill. Uh, it's like a panini press. It's a panini press for your tits. Yes. Panini presses your your tit and then you have to do it like from whatever 16 different angles and it hurts are you they're talking but you're talking about it like you know what's going on see i am going for my first one on thursday i have no idea typically i'm such a freak that i will look up
Starting point is 00:02:08 everything i'll look up all the videos but for some reason i just don't want to know what i'm walking into because it's a standard procedure people get it done all the time it's as you were just about to say it's like so important everyone should be doing that if they can especially if they have a history of breast cancer in their family but I like don't I'm like I don't want a panini press I don't want that so like everything in my head is like well maybe I shouldn't go on Thursday like there's something like I don't really need to go you have to go okay but how much is it gonna hurt because when my when Bowie steps on my tits the pain is insane but it's a But she steps into my tit, not the other way.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Do you know what I mean? She like pushes into my tit as opposed to. So I'm hoping that's a different pain. I think it. OK, don't be mad about what I'm going to say, but I think it's going to be painful for you. Because I have small tits. Yeah. I think it's painful, period.
Starting point is 00:03:10 But especially for smaller chested women. Why? Oh, why? I don't want it. Because there's less to get. There's less, like right now I'm trying to pancake my tits and like I have bigger tits than you and there's not much to grab. Like I'm trying to like, I'm trying to recreate a George Foreman experience around my tits.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And. Yeah. Like, so I think it's going to be like the process of getting that much flesh. Into the thing. Is going to be, yeah. Yeah. I'm not looking forward to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Well, I think that's important to emotionally prepare yourself. But the way that you just said 16 different ways, what do you mean? They're going to, do you know that for a fact that they're going to push my tits into a panini press 16 different ways? One of them? You were there when our friend told us who's had a mammogram before. She didn't say 16. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I might have been exaggerating a little, but like four per side or something like that. They said that you're, like, in and out within 15 minutes. So if you're doing, like, if they're, like, pushing your tits into, like, you know, like, using it as Play-Doh, like, that's going to take some time. So I imagine that they know what they're doing. It's not like I'm the first person with small tits in there. So they know how to, like, maneuver my tit into the press. They know exactly what they're doing. And it's just that, you know, for the whatever, 10-second, 3-second clamp time, it's not going to be pretty.
Starting point is 00:04:40 it is the extreme version of like it'll go quickly but you know when you go to the dentist and they have to take the x-rays and they jam that card and you're choking and you're gonna barf everywhere and oh my god and it's so fucking sharp it's cutting your gums it's cutting the inside of your mouth and it takes and then they go around i don't know the other side of the wall and it goes and then they come out and take it i i imagine it's like the the like that times a hundred great thank you for that just great great this is airing on thursday and by the time um people will probably write me it will have been done um but i'm just hoping that when this does land on your site that people will be thinking of me and knowing that i will be making a vegetable roast
Starting point is 00:05:35 panini on my chest that's what will be happening grading scale like you i because i mean eventually i'm gonna have to go you know at a certain age it's a standard procedure so i i need you to like properly scale the pain and i have a very high pain tolerance you i really suspect do not yeah i don't know what do you mean you don't know i feel like i complain yes but you can endure but i can endure okay i don't know yeah um yeah anyway i don't know either this is a roll in the dice here i will i will give you a scale because everybody i've talked to who has had a mammogram it's like they have like ptsd and don't want to talk to you about it Like, they go, oh, it just really hurts.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And it's like, but what? Give me more details on the pain threshold that I need to have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I will be, I will let you know. Do the public service. I will do the public service. So next episode is our final episode before we leave. It is?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yes. You're telling me now. We're going to be on hiatus. Before we break for the summer. Okay. Before we break for the summer. So on the next episode, you can give everybody the 100. I will.
Starting point is 00:06:49 On the mammogram. Okay. Sounds good. okay let's get to our questions first question hey Sasha and Lainey I'm 26 recently single from a four-year relationship I'm still grieving that relationship and seeing as we're slowly but surely going back to normal life I'm very strongly considering getting over my ex by getting under someone new okay do we have to keep reading because I'm in full support of this I knew you would.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Do that. Do that. Do whatever that is. Okay. The advice is do that. Let's move on. See? Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It's easy to do those. Okay. Okay. Anyway, as we continue, this person continues, I'm very strongly considering, oh, okay. I'm not looking for commitment, just something super casual. Harry, okay. Harry recently slid into my DMs on Insta when he found out I was single. Harry is hot and funny, and that's about all I'm looking for right now.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I would get under him in a heartbeat if he wasn't my little brother's childhood BFF. Ah. He had a major crush on me back in the day, but I only saw him as a sweet, chubby little puppy. He sure as heck went through an amazing glow-up. He's no longer super close with my brother, but they're still part of the same friend circle. My brother's not speaking to me right now because of some silly family drama, but we'll get over it. I do know that he wouldn't like me sleeping with his friend and would think I'm purposefully trying to hurt him
Starting point is 00:08:10 if something went down with Harry. Okay, now it gets a little bit more complicated. That being said, I really want to jump that guy. So do you have any advice on how to get some without having it turn into a big drama? Oh, and for the record, Harry's 22. So we're totally legal consenting adults here. Okay, well, so Harry and the brother,
Starting point is 00:08:31 let's call the brother William. Okay. Harry and this person's brother. Um, so this person, I mean, let's not call her Kate or Megan. Let's call this person Tabitha. Okay. That is a very, that goes very well with William. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So Tabitha's brother, Harry, is not, no, Tabitha's brother, William, is no longer that close to Harry, but probably Will wouldn't like Tabitha and Harry fucking. But then, which is like, we'll have to know. Well, I'm saying, A, does Will have to know? And by the time that Will and Tabitha are talking, Harry and Tabitha will have fucked enough times that it'll be over and done with by that time. Do you know what I mean? I guess the danger, though. There is a danger.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Harry's had a crush on Tabitha forever. So is Harry going to turn into a, like, a clinger? Or is he just going to catch feelings? And could Tabitha catch feelings? Possible. Right now, Tabitha just wants to go in there, get herself filled, one and done, bye Harry, thank you so much. And Harry might be like, Tabitha, I've waited. But that's Harry's problem, right?
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, but then Harry could tell Will or be like a fucking heat score and then their secret will be exposed. I guess my point is I just don't think it needs to be a secret. it like unfortunately all you would have to say was hey William um we weren't talking at the time and it seemed like a very strange thing for me to reach out and tell you that I was gonna get like my groove on with your friend like if that's gonna like that's fine if uh William has feelings about that but like really is it gonna really cause that big of a fucking situation especially when William and Harry are really just running in the same circles they're not so tight it would be really weird if William no if Harry was like down the line hey William I fucked your sister like
Starting point is 00:10:30 who would say that I guess guys would say that of the same circle circle friend circle they're not tight tight tight anymore friend circle that means like fucking you see them at a party here and there I don't know I'm for Tabitha getting under fucking Harry and doing what she needs to do scratch that fucking itch a hungry girl's gotta eat and then deal with whatever happens afterwards chances are it will be like a one and done sort of thing and everyone will be moved like everyone will move on and no one will know that's what I would do I would totally roll the dice on this it's worth it's worth rolling the dice yes I would also totally roll the dice on this but I would Tabitha what Tabitha is asking for is okay here's what Tabitha needs but but Tabitha's
Starting point is 00:11:17 advice on how to get some without having it turn into a big drama well you just there might be a big drama but isn't it worth it i also just don't think but i don't think do you think that would cause a lot of drama yes why if she's already predicting it's gonna cause a lot of drama then like she knows something we don't know well or whatever dynamic will has with his friend group and she knows her brother. She knows his personality. She knows that he wouldn't be chill with like one person in his friend group
Starting point is 00:11:53 knowing the literally inner workings of his sister. So that's a fact. In their family, some families, nobody cares. Like, you know, in some families, everybody's cool with it. In this family, it's not the case. So how can Tabitha go about her business with Harry without causing maybe you maybe listen Tabitha it's up to you like you need to understand whether
Starting point is 00:12:20 or not Harry can be discreet right is Harry the type who's gonna be like yo Will I fucking boned your sister man it was so good right or can you keep it on the DL and Brad and whatever like don't tell Will but I fucking boned his sister and it was so good like is Harry that dude all dudes are Harry that dude Harry's gonna tell somebody and it'll eventually most likely we'll get back to William who cares is what I'm saying it's not like like sorry so this is her younger brother right yes well so what she's the older fucking sibling she can fuck whoever the fuck she wants to fuck she doesn't need permission and she doesn't need a cosign and you know William will be okay William will have to get over it and just deal with it truly who cares yeah get your fuck on
Starting point is 00:13:07 for this get your fuck on and also maybe harry summertime yes we've been like trapped indoors fuck whoever you want that's your excuse if he's ever mad be like i'm very sorry but i was trapped indoors and like my pussy got the best of me the horny took over horny took over i'm very sorry i will never do that again yeah still though tabitha i mean it doesn't mean that you know you have to like Instagram a shot of Harry's dick inside of you. No. You know, like no. Right. We advise not to do that.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Still be discreet and still like have a very casual conversation with Harry being like, hey, you know what? My brother probably wouldn't be like cool with this. So can we just keep it between us? Yeah. And be prepared too, Tabitha. Let's be realistic that if Harry is
Starting point is 00:13:59 hot and funny and so good, you might want to go back for seconds and thirds and that is a level of complication we're not dealing with here because you seem to think that you can one-and-done this situation, but that's when there might be weirdness, you know, if Tabitha and Harry...
Starting point is 00:14:15 But we're not touching that right now. No. Because I don't... Get back... Yeah. Because I'm looking forward to the sequel. Me too. I'm looking forward to the sequel
Starting point is 00:14:23 and I also just, like, want to make this as clean as possible for us. Do you know what I mean? Sequel with photos would be great. Yeah. Photos? What photos are you asking for? Just a headshot.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Oh, of Harry. Like, yeah. Okay, great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't ask for payment or any payback, but we do ask for pictures. So a picture of Harry, you're welcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And if you need to hit us up with a sequel, but for now, yes. Discreetly, go about your business. Blame COVID. Yes. Blame horniness. Get your summer fucking on. You know, live. Everybody, go out and live.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yes, if you're double vaxxed, go live. Okay, next. Hey, Sasha and Lainey, my ex-roommate and I met four years ago on a language exchange app. I was trying to learn French then. Alice is from France, and she was trying to improve her English because she had gotten a job in New York. I was living with my parents and dying to move out of my hometown in the middle of nowhere. Alice and I got along so well that when she got here, I found a job in New York, and we decided to get an apartment together. We were having a blast and living the dream.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Then I met Jake and fell really hard for him. We dated for almost a year before I found out he's a fucking cheating asshole. Wow. I broke up with Jake in May 2019. I was hurt and felt broken for a long time. Alice really stepped in and took care of me. I'm an only child, and I always wanted to have a sibling, and we developed a really strong bond, and she became as close to a sister as I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:15:51 In February 2020, I found out that Alice had been dating Jake. Wow. I don't think that can go on. Keep it. From what she told me, after he and I broke up, I blocked him everywhere so he wouldn't contact me. He then reached out to her because he was worried about me and hoping to find a way to fix things between us. Oh, as if. Somewhere along the way, they started talking and getting to know each other and caught feelings and all that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I was really pissed and heartbroken and asked her to move out. I'm pretty sure she moved in with Jake. We stopped talking and then COVID and lockdown happened. I was depressed for a long time. tried online therapy a couple times but it wasn't a good fit my income was cut in half i was struggling for a while then had to move back in with my parents at the end of last year cut to today i've been looking for a job in new york i'd really love to move back after a series of unsuccessful interviews i finally got an offer my problem is i found out during the zoom interview
Starting point is 00:16:53 that alice is also working at the same company and she was on the panel interviewing me fuck no this has to be a joke this is not this is not real keep going come on it actually it actually seems so crazy unreal but the way she writes it it's real it's legit this chick isn't fucking with us we wouldn't necessarily work together all the time but she'd have authority to ask me to join in on some of her projects after she moved out she tried to reach out many times and i ended up blocking her. I haven't heard from her until now. After the interview she emailed me apologizing telling me they broke up not long after she moved out of our place. She said she put in the work to gain back my trust if I gave her a chance. She misses me and I'm the closest thing she ever had
Starting point is 00:17:42 to a real friend or family in the U.S. I never got closure from how things ended with Jake and Alice and it did feel good to read her email but I still hold a lot of resentment especially towards her for what happened that said this job would be a great opportunity for me to get back on track professionally what would you do if you were in my shoes thanks lizzie wow wow right what like if you wrote this on a tv show people would be like no fucking way this is so unrealistic and turn it off okay yeah but my brain could but my brain couldn't even make up something like that like it would i know some people could but like if it's made up congratulations easily shockable Like you are. Pardon me? Like, yeah. You're always like, who would do that? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:28 This is and I'm like, Sasha, people are fucked out there. OK, well, I would hope that our listeners aren't fucked. But even if they are, this one's still really delicious and we should probably dive in. OK, so Lizzie and Alice. First of all, there's two questions here. Should Lizzie take the job? What should she do? And the second question is, what should she do about Alice? So let's start with the work. Yeah. Well, the most important thing I think here is career. This is what she has been waiting for.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's a good opportunity. It doesn't sound like they'd be working side by side, but there would definitely be some interaction. I would never, more likely than not, I wouldn't let personal issues get in the way of career advancement. So if we're just talking about that, I say if the job is offered, definitely take it. Because, sorry, what's the chick who's writing in? I never remember anything. Lizzie. Lizzie didn't do anything wrong in this situation.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So she sure as shit shouldn't be punished or blocked from any opportunity because of that. So take all the things that come your way. So that's where I stand on that. I imagine you agree. I agree. I think that, Lizzie, I think that you want to get back to New York. You want to be in New York, take the job, and it sounds like a good job, but also you don't have to see it as like a job that locks you into New York forever
Starting point is 00:20:00 or that you have to be locked into the job. Just get your foot back in the door first, right? You've had a series of setbacks, starting with Fuckface Jake and then all kinds of other shit, and now things are starting to turn around and in like feng shui talk you you that's the energy flow the energy flow right now is good for you so take this job ride it out if you find that for whatever reason the situation with alice isn't great at least you have this job to sit on make money from and then go jump somewhere else like you know so do not let the alice drama cloud your opinion about this job opportunity you are
Starting point is 00:20:43 number one your career is number one this is great a great job for your career do it okay but how about how do we so maybe the predicament here that I just thought about is how do we know like does Lizzie have to play nice with Alice right now because Alice just sent the email in order to get the job like that's where it's murky for me is like obviously Alice is on the board of hiring right? She was part of the panel. She will probably have some input. Alice already emailed Lizzie after the interview and was like, let's bridge this gap. Does, should Lizzie, does Lizzie need to, um, write her back or no? I say no. No, I don't think Lizzie needs to write her back today. In fact, I'd keep it, I'd keep it clean. Like if you get the job, Lizzie, that's one thing,
Starting point is 00:21:35 But until you find out about the job, I wouldn't write her back yet. Right. Okay. So let's talk about. All that separate. Let's talk now about the relationship. Okay. So do you think she should.
Starting point is 00:21:48 No, do you think she should? I think that. I think that. I don't think that things are healed overnight. so my answer isn't like i don't know if i can answer directly like yeah get back together yeah be friends i would play it out like you know if you're colleagues then if you end up being colleagues then you gradually work into a colleague relationship but is that forgivable like what lizzie did not lizzie sorry what the fuck's her name my brain is so stupid right now
Starting point is 00:22:32 what alice did was like literally flip through a dictionary of shady like that is some real bad friend like that's that's that's bad how do you forget how do you forgive someone of how do you forgive someone even though really fuck face jake was a fuck face and thank god Lizzie got rid of him but her really forgiveness is like yeah but the whole premise of forgiveness is that like if forgiveness was easy like forgiveness is based on the fact of that someone has wronged you in a wrong way but this is really wrong I don't know my I guess what the question is, is this forgivable for a friend? It depends on the person. And if Lizzie is writing to us, she's considering it. There are people out there who wouldn't write to us
Starting point is 00:23:34 because they've already made the decision. But clearly Lizzie is the kind of person who is capable, right? If she's mulling it over, then for her, this is something she would and is considering forgiving and that's who we're dealing with here okay i don't think friendship with um alice should be on the table like i don't know i'm just dumb right now um i don't think alice and lizzie friendship should be on the table anytime soon like that's why i'm sort of i don't even want to even go there because i don't even think that lizzie should be contemplating it I think Lizzie can contemplate what it will look like to be colleagues with her, which is what you were talking about, Lainey, before I cut you off. I think that is salvageable. I think that is
Starting point is 00:24:24 doable. I think that, that they could continue to have a work relationship that was like super above board. But in terms of like getting back and like being buds again, I don't, I don't know. Like that seems, I don't know how I, I don't think I could trust someone after that. Like they would, I know that she's ready to prove herself to Lizzie but like that's gonna take a long ass fucking time yeah it will and that's why you that's a process of a process of rebuilding does take time and it's you you don't heal overnight and it's gonna be ugly if that is the decision but the equivalent that I am thinking about right now and we have talked I think a lot of times about how friendships are just like romantic relationships like you have to nurture
Starting point is 00:25:13 them and they build and they ebb and they flow much in the same way as romantic relationships so if it's possible for a partner a romantic partner to forgive another for infidelity then in this scenario should you want to it should also be possible for a friendship to be repaired after this kind of betrayal, right? If a couple can get back together, and many have, I know people who have successfully gotten back together after infidelity because they were willing to work on it and they were not willing to walk away from the relationship. I can't say that about myself, but I have observed it in others. And clearly Lizzie is at least open to the concept. She's asking about it. So in that respect, I think it's possible,
Starting point is 00:26:09 Lily. I think it's possible, Lizzie. I just don't think it's going to be overnight. And I don't think you have enough cards to read yet in terms of what your next move is. So my advice right now is just to focus on the job. If you get the job, then take it day by day in terms of relating to each other as colleagues first yeah and then slowly see whether or not you really want to heal and repair yeah i agree yeah um but that is some that is a fuck that's totally right i'm still not over the mind fuck of like her signing in on zoom and then seeing fucking alice's face that would be fucking horrible we'll wait until you get to this next question because it's sort of same same but different what yeah okay okay anyway well I mean Lizzie keep us posted communicating with these
Starting point is 00:27:08 people Lizzie yeah Lizzie keep us posted you're the one communicating with these people and I guess they're real people and they're sending in their real situations but these this is like wow okay um final question hi Sasha Atlini I met my best friend Mark in college here's a quick recap of our relationship we dated in college for about 10 months then friends with benefits on and off for three years. Then there was a period of time when we hated each other. Then back to friends, hooked up once, which was an obvious mistake to both of us. And we've worked through a lot of stuff to now be BFF. Okay. Got it. That's pretty standard. No, it's not, but okay. You see, like I go on, just go on, go on. Like it's not standard. Never. I've never had a relationship
Starting point is 00:27:51 with a friend like that. You haven't. This is what I mean. Listen, I am talking about it from me. Me, Sasha. I'm talking about this shit from my experience. Me, never done that. But go on.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Mark sounds like a real winner. About seven months ago, about seven months ago, he met Layla. Mark and I are really close, so she didn't like me very much. When they officially became boyfriend and girlfriend, I strongly advised him to tell her our whole story.
Starting point is 00:28:16 He doesn't want to. I'm four months pregnant and having the baby on my own. since, come on. I love that reaction. Okay, go on. This is a reality shit. Like now I'm, okay. Anyway, I'm four months pregnant and having the baby on my own. Since learning of my pregnancy, Layla and I became really close. She's been surprisingly open with me and very supportive. I've been going through a lot of drama lately, but Mark and Layla have both been there for me every single time I needed them,
Starting point is 00:28:47 which brings me to my question. I feel super guilty that she doesn't know our dating history. Was it the other way around? I'd be pissed not knowing and would most likely feel betrayed when I found out later down the road. With COVID and everything,
Starting point is 00:29:00 she is yet to meet our people and some of them we've known since college. Mark says it's been too long at this point to bring it up. He fears it would stir up unnecessary drama in both of our relationships with Layla and make his life much more complicated than needed. He insisted I don't tell her anything
Starting point is 00:29:15 But my guts have been telling me that if not from either one of us, she could find out from a third party and I don't see how it could play out well then. So what do you think I should do? Right. This is real. This is not a faux letter. Okay. What's this person's name? Because they told us Mark, Layla, and I don't know who this person is.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Can it be really easy? My brain's, again, not firing. Can you just call her Lainey? Jane. jane jane so jane mark and leila yeah okay wow um oh i don't know only because if it was any other situation i'd be like yeah like what's the fucking big deal you guys fucking hit it way long ago that's what everyone does right that's mm-hmm it's kind of standard behavior in university i guess um but you kind of have
Starting point is 00:30:15 to respect your best friend mark who's kind of begging and pleading with you to not say anything because he must know something about leila and maybe leila like is maybe more jealous of a person or maybe really insecure or maybe just like doesn't like knowing that her partner's dick has been in other people that she knows which is valid which is fair i because it's gonna come out at some point right because there is gonna be a friend who's like remember when you guys fucking banged or something and then it's gonna be real bad real bad right yes yes like it's that's the thing i mean if if there were no friends and there wasn't any i would say leave it like you know it's you're having a baby and but this was decades ago right
Starting point is 00:31:11 like this is decades ago or at least a decade maybe five years okay okay i i would say like five seven years okay yeah and how do you actually even bring this up that's kind of like where I'm struggling like when do you go you do sit Layla down or whatever her name is and say hey like we need to talk to you like you don't want to make it serious either because that fucking adds an element of like weirdness I like we need to workshop this together because I don't okay Maybe it's not like maybe Jane is maybe Jane is giving it more because I just reread it. They were in college together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Like, you know, and they were in college and they dated for 10 months and then they hated each other. Yeah. Yeah. And this is college shit. Right. Like, you know, it I don't I think that like you putting weight on this is giving what you had the romantic part of what you had with Mark more weight. Whereas like that was really just the entry to your friendship. Well, no, but Mark is is carrying a lot of weight to this, too.
Starting point is 00:32:29 He's like, please don't fucking say anything like this is going to go badly. Mark is putting all the weight on it. I think our writer, whose name I totally forget again, Jane, right, Jane, wants to say something. She's like, let's, like, get this out in the open so that it's not weird and we're not hiding a secret. I think Mark is, like, resistant because Jane is, like, up his ass and being like, we got to tell her, we got to tell her, we got to tell her. Whereas, like, maybe everybody should just shrug and be like, it was just in college, whatever. That's how we met. I think what I would do is because the alternative of having a weird, dramatic sit down conversation about this just seems so over the top and weird to me.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I think it might be best if someone does one day just go, oh, you guys fucking be like, oh, my God, I fucking hated him. Oh, my God. And kind of pass it off as nothing. Because once you bring once you bring attention to it, then it makes it feel like it's something you have to have a serious conversation about it. I think if it comes out in the open and fucking Bob blurts it out and says, oh, right, you too fucked or whatever. And you'd be like, oh, fuck, that was so long ago and so stupid. It was so gross, Mark. No way. Yeah, we were in second year and like whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And I've, yeah, that's the thing. That's how you shrug it off. And then no harm, no foul because you've abided by Mark's rules, which was don't say anything. And then that's fucking Mark's baggage to deal with, not yours. you wanted to say what you wanted to say and it wasn't a big deal and then it's really on mark because mark doesn't want you to spill the beans on that yeah i mean i guess what we're missing here is like what what is mark's original lie like did he say i don't think he said anything just wasn't you just probably don't ask like oh did you fuck her yeah oh she's your best friend
Starting point is 00:34:21 did you fuck maybe you would actually I think it's more likely it's more likely because remember Layla was jealous of Jane so I bet you initially when Layla was being jealous of Jane Mark was Mark would have been like yeah we're just best friends and nothing happened ever but right so that's where like that's where they're gonna get caught that is why the shrug scenario might not work because mark has already laid a lie is that mark's is that isn't that mark's oopsie yeah but fucking leila is over like basically leila is midwifing jane at this point so it's not right she will be at the water birth it's not yeah so it's not just mark's problem i know but oh it's so weird to have this conversation like hey p.s we used to bone bone and also
Starting point is 00:35:23 if you're not gonna get like if mark isn't gonna give you the go-ahead then you're gonna go behind mark's back i say you know what it's kind of can i say this because i feel like i feel like this is it's kind of none of her business like just back away from it it's their kind of deal if mark webbed a lie said a lie that's on him yeah and i mean i know that the fallout could be that mark and again i don't remember jane um mark and jane might not be friends or there could be some shit that would like you know pull them apart because maybe leila's like what the fuck you guys can't be friends because now that you guys i've known that you fucked i don't know it could be weird it could just all be fucking weird meaning oh i i think this is just like
Starting point is 00:36:09 maybe some spilt milk that's just gonna fucking happen and you're gonna have to deal with it when it happens how can you pre-plan any of this yeah but also i'm i'm wondering like is leila actually even gonna care like fucking jane's having a baby clearly leila cares what's that clearly leila must care or mark wouldn't be so like ass tight about not having this information leaked leila but mark Layla is now on board with Jane as a friend and is no longer jealous of Jane. Mark just doesn't want to have to come clean about lying in the first place. Like Layla has no more issues with Jane. Again, Layla is practically Jane's midwife.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Right. So I think the issue here is like, you know. Trust has been formed between Jane and Layla, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And it may not be like when it comes out, hopefully Layla won't care that much that she was lied to by Mark. But you're right, Sash. I don't think it's Jane's place. No, no. Especially when Mark has said no. And then it's Mark's mess to clean up.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah. It is Mark's mess to clean up. But as we said, the best case scenario is that if someone fucking blows the cover, you play it like prepare. That's what the only thing I think you can do, Jane, is prepare yourself when that comes and blows up in your face in front of everyone. That was nothing. Yeah. Prepare a really good response that like is like, what? Ew, gross. That was so long ago and that was barely a thing.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I don't know. Whatever you need to say, prepare that in your head so that it comes out perfectly eloquently, very casually when that moment happens. Means nothing. He's just your best friend. Oh, hey, look at the baby I had with somebody else that I'm raising on my own. Yes. Baby baby. I love my baby.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I love my baby. I only care about my baby. I had a baby with, I'm having a baby with myself. Yes. So, you know, like I'm not into your dude because I'm having a baby. I had a baby. I'm whatever. I've moved on.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yes. Moved on. I'm a mother now. I can't deal with this drama. Like, come on. Like, whatever. Oh, long time ago. Other priorities now.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Gross, gross, gross, gross. There you go. Mark. Yeah. There you go. prepare that and that's all you can really do at this point yes and focus on your pregnancy and have a nice pregnancy and do not stress about this anymore totally like this is i would stress about that but it's fine but yeah i don't know i mean like i think that i i think that my also
Starting point is 00:38:46 my other thing is that i think jane you're assigning like you're you're giving too much energy to this too yeah yeah yeah so and in your mind it's building up so much that you know I'm worried you're not going to be able to like do the shrug that we need you to do so release that energy yeah and prepare prepare for that shrug yeah and then forget about it and then just shrug it off and just be like oh hey remember I'm pregnant and raising this child on my own that's my priority yeah yeah let's focus on that as Layla's midwifing you imagine if she finds out Like, while being a doula and giving birth. Well, Jane, good luck.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. Fingers crossed. That's all I can say. Yeah. Good luck. But again, I think this is also, like, heat scoring itself. So if you remove the tension from yourself and just be like, yeah, whatever happens happens, then, you know, we're good. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I agree. That's it for this week. um keep your questions coming to me at sasha at lady gossip.com thanks for listening thanks for subscribing if you haven't subscribed please do leave comments and reviews we will be back soon thanks so much bye We'll be right back.

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