When Reality Hits with Jax and Brittany - Hookup Culture & The Evolution of Relationships with Jax Taylor

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

On today’s episode of “In the Mind of a Man”, Jax delves into the rampant hook up culture we are seeing today and the effects it’s having on monogamous relationships. Jax reveals the first time he lost his virginity, his one and only “boujie behavior,” he also explores whether or not men and women can have platonic relationships and he finally explains that “JetBlue fiasco.” A special pop in by Jax and Brittany’s publicist, Lori Krebs where they divulge some never told behind-the-scenes stories about Jax!  Please support the show by checking out our sponsors! G-DEFY - Go to Gdefy.com and use the promo code REALITYHITS for 50% off all orders. JLo Beauty: Head to JLOBeauty.COM/REALITYHITS for 20% off and THREE FREE LIMITED TIME OFFER GIFTS - a one hundred and seventy-five dollar value. Nutrafol: Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code REALITYHITS Progressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust Progressive. Discover Your New Home at apartments.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What's up guys and welcome back to In the Mind of a Man. How are you? First of all, happy, happy new year to everybody. You know, I was really looking forward to starting a brand new year because, man, 2024 was probably the hardest year of my life. No words can really describe it. Unfortunately, 2025 has really started off horribly. The heartbreak I have felt watching my city of L.A.

Completely burned to shreds has been absolutely devastating. dating to say the least. I think everyone knows one person who has lost their home in these wildfires or is just suffering or somebody hit and has a family member that lost their home. There's just really no words to describe it. My heart goes out to everyone that has been impacted. And I want to give a huge thank you to the incredible firemen out there. Man, I've been watching these videos of these pilots just dumping water and on these fires and how they maneuver. It's just absolutely amazing. So the first responders, the frontline workers have literally risked their lives and continue. to work tirelessly to contain these fires.

Please consider donating to the Red Cross to help in any way. There's many, many organizations that can help support, and I will continue posting them on my Instagram. So today's episode is a great one, guys. So buckle up. So much to unpack here. And I'm really, really excited. I hope you guys are really enjoying the In the Mind of the Man podcast.

And, yeah, let me know if there's anything you want to talk about in the future. But let's get going. So I want to talk about something I was thinking about. And that's today's hookup culture. I don't think we really talked about this yet. And just how really rampant it's become. More and more people seem to be looking less and less for meaningful connections. But instead, like, prioritizing random hookups or sexual encounters, I guess, with different people instead of committed relationships.

So I got a little story here. And this came from a family member's friend of a friend. And this was happening in junior highs and high schools where this is just, this is absolutely distrable. serving to me, that girls are wearing different color wristbands, kind of like hair ties, rubber bands that are different colors. And this signifies what they do sexually. And I was like in shock when I heard this because I'm just thinking back in high school. When I was in high school, I mean, we barely held hands with people. And now girls are wearing wristbands to say it, to let boys know or girls know what they do sexually. I just, I literally was,

jaw dropped. I mean, this seems to be starting at like such a young age now. And so it got me thinking about like the evolution of relationships and marriages in general and just how differently things have progressed from generations ago. I'm going to tell you a little bit about my story real quick and on how I lost my virginity. And it's it really goes along. If you had to describe it, anybody seen American pie. It's literally just like that. I was a late bloomer. I was 19 years old. I was with a bunch of my friends, and there were some girls up there. We literally got a cabin in up north Michigan on the lake, very small cabin, and each couple had their turn in the single bedroom.

It was a very small cabin, so there was only one bedroom. And, well, when it was my turn, I was dating somebody at the time or interested, I guess, and she was a little older. And, you know, when it was our turn, I don't know how it got brought up, but I said that I've done this before. Clearly, I haven't. I don't know if I want to get too in depth with this, but let's just say it was very, very awkward. I had no idea really about, I'm going to be very PG-G about this, PG-13. I had no idea, let's just say, how to warm up the car.

We're going to put it in car terms because I'm a car guy. I had no idea about foreplay, how kind of just getting it going. I grew up in a very, very conservative neighborhood, town, school. It was a different time. It was the late 90s. We just didn't deal with stuff like that when I was in school. It was holding hands. It was varsity jackets, football games, you know, keggers, you know, like I said, dating the cheerleader.

I did all that. I did all that. But we didn't really, you know, there was no sexual thing. So, again, I didn't lose my Virginia until I was out of high school. And then I started hanging out with different kids from different high schools. And then sure enough, that's kind of when it hits. So I ended up, you know, doing the deed. and yeah, it was probably the most amazing thing ever.

I was like a rabbit after that. I was like a rabbit. You know, I was born in 79, like I said, and I look back at my grandparents' generation. During that time, divorces were basically unheard of, you know? You kind of just, even if you were unhappy in your marriage, people just stuck it out. They were still together. They just kind of went with emotion because it was frowned upon to get divorced in those times. It was just, you were looked at like, ooh, that couples.

It just, it wasn't a good thing to do. Like, you just stuck it out and you were miserable in your marriage. You know, I was it? I'm sorry. You know, then it became a little bit more, you know, accepted, like during my parents' generation. But still, you know, know where it is today. Today, I feel like people just get married for sport on a Tuesday. There's something to do.

People get divorced and they don't really put the effort in. It's just the idea of, marriage has lost its, we were looking for this word earlier and I can't find this word, but the idea of marriage has lost its like significance. It's lost its, you know, what marriage used to be about. It was a really, really big deal. And I feel like as the world went on, we lost all that. And, you know, I think too, how I felt about it, you just see celebrities. You would see celebrities getting married, like just abruptly. And they would be like, oh, this so and so got married. And then they got divorced.

week later. It was just, I think that may have started it. That's in my, you know, because I used to watch a lot of MTV when I got home from school and you used to see all these celebrities getting married for sport. And I think that's kind of what, what maybe springboarded that. And now, like my generation today, more than half of all marriages, I did the research on this. More than half of all marriages are ending in divorce. And, you know, obviously, guys, my excitement level when it comes to marriage isn't at a high right now. And I think you guys all know that. So every single day, you know, I hear about another couple that's divorcing. It's really, you know, you throw a rock, close your eyes and throw a rock. You're going to hit somebody that's divorced or going through one. I mean, I can probably ran, you know, I can probably think about three to five people right now that are going through a divorce.

And obviously, COVID wasn't easy for a lot of people. The divorce rate spiked during then. But I think just in general, people are, you know, not really giving it a try. They're kind of just copping out early. You know, what does this mean for the generations to come? I have no idea. I don't know if marriage is going to be, you know, done away with. You know, the way I see hookup culture today and the modern dating world as it stands,

is it possible that monogamous relationships won't even exist anymore? I always had, well, I want to know what your guys' thoughts are, but I always had this idea of, I think marriages should be kind of like owning a driver's license. I think every 10 years you need to re-up. I think it would save a lot of money, a lot of stress, a lot of discomfort. I know it sounds pretty crazy to think that, but think about it for a second. You get married, and then every, I don't know, maybe five to 10 years, you go through the process like the DMV, and you say, okay, I want to stay married or not. And if you don't, you don't know, what are your thoughts on that?

What do you guys think? Because I honestly think that's where we're headed. You know, is this due to social media? I think so. maybe the dating apps. I mean, there's, you know, the world is so small because of social media. I think the standards are set so high because you're seeing such, I'm going to say it, bullshit on social media.

You're seeing bullshit. You're seeing things that are fake. You're seeing these shiny-faced people, face-tune people. You're seeing people put things on Instagram that's, you know, not necessarily true, in my opinion. So, okay, we've talked about this in previous podcast, right? And just how many women, I guess, and men too, right, talk about how incredible their date was. They had the time of their lives.

They were swept off their feet. And then a day later, they were ghosted. You can probably blame a lot of this to The Bachelor because they have these unrealistic first dates, a date in Fiji, a date on an island, a date on a yacht. And then you watch this. You're like, well, and then you go into real life, right? And then you're like, wait a minute, why are we going to Applebee's? You know, like, stuff like that. And again, this is due to TV, social media, right?

And like I said, people are like swept off their feet, you know, and they never, some people never hear from that person again, you know, without closure or an explanation. In my opinion, I think this does have to do with the fact that we, the way that our society is built today. I personally think that, I mean, you guys could probably argue with me, guys don't really have to work for it anymore, you know? You don't have to buy them a drink. And I feel like the chase is kind of gone.

Again, social media, you know. Think about it. Back in my day in high school slash college, all these social media platforms didn't exist. I mean, maybe we had one. You know, we had AIM. I don't know if people remember AIM. I know that's my generation. I think... BBM.

Oh, we had BBM. Yeah. And by the way, Lori's here with me, guys, as you guys know. So she's going to chime in here and there. I think I had a pager, be honest. No, I don't think. I know I had a pager. I remember when my father took me to Best Buy.

I begged him for one. And in those days, the only people who had pagers were. drug dealers and doctors. That was the only people who had who had pagers. And I was like, no, no, I have to have one. All my friends had one, which didn't really make sense because I was in grade school. Who the hell am I going to page? We're all in class together. It didn't really make any sense, right? And then what was I going to do? Hop out to the hallway and use a pay phone and who the hell was going to call? Who was going to page me? It didn't really make much sense. And in those days, like I said, pages were used for if you were dating somebody, did the 143, which meant I love you,

guys did the boobs, which was 8-0-08. There was just different codes with different numbers to meet your friends. It wasn't, you know, it was more of a style thing. It was more of a trend. You had the chains hanging off of it. It was just what it was. And, you know, my page would buzz and I have to go run to a, well, like I said, run to a pay phone or something like it.

It was just really, really silly. So my parents and our grandparents' generations, you know, they didn't really have cell phones, for God's sakes. I mean, social media completely revolutionized relationships and marriages. I think it's, I think social media in general has hugely impacted, not only relationships, but it's been a main contributing factor to the mental health pandemic. And I can take, you know, I will 100% agree with that. You know, the mental health pandemic has become such a big thing now and we are living in it.

You know, so many more people now are battling with anxiety disorders, depression and other mental health disorders. Let me get you a little story here real quick. So as people know, I recently visited a facility. And this is tough to talk about. So, okay, I recently visited a facility and they took away my phone for the first 72 hours. Now, mind you, I've never in my life had my phone taken away from me. Never. And I got to say the first 24 hours was really, really hard.

not only being there was very vulnerable and very for me, but not having a phone and not being able to be in touch with the outside world, especially having, you know, a wife and a child and just everything that was going on at the time for me. It was really, really hard to stay focused on why I was there. And, you know, to be present,

to be, you know, taking place, you know, taking my therapy seriously without thinking in the back of my mind, what is on my phone. But I got to say after the first 24 hours, I was okay. I was okay.

I was like, wow. And then when I got my phone back, there was a point where I'm like, I don't want it. I really don't want my phone. Adults in general don't know what it feels like to get their electronics taken away from them. You know what I mean? So we know what it's like when you punish your child, you know, a nine-year-old boy, take away their iPad and they go into a full-blown tantrum. And that's kind of like what you experienced. You know, like it was so hard for you not to check in with Ryan and I for work.

And even for us, it was, it was just something completely different that we had to get used to. And I, guys, I want to make this very clear. And I think people kind of don't understand my relationship with Ryan and Lori. Ryan and Lori are not only, we all work together, but they're very close to me. They're like my family here. So I know a lot of people get confused. Like, why are they so close? Because they're my friends first.

They're my family first. Yes, we also all work together. but they have been like literally my, along with my sister, my rock through this. And I don't think I could have gotten through what I've gone through without them. They have literally checked in with me every single day. And that's not even their job. You know, they have other clients. They have other things to do.

But they put that aside and put our friendship slash family, you know, first. And it really, really helped me because if I didn't have that, I got to be honest, I don't know where I would be because I really didn't have anybody. I didn't have anybody. Nobody really knew that I was there other than Brittany. And Brittany and I obviously were not on good terms then. And you guys will see, you know, on the show, I really can't get too much into it. But people did know that you were there because it did come out. Oh, you're right, right. It did. But I don't think people made a really big deal of it. It was all over TMZ. Okay, maybe not. Because I, again, I didn't have my phone. And when they did give it back, I'm not going to lie, I didn't want to use it toward, and until towards the end, I got a little aggressive with

the phone. And I, because I felt like I was in prison a little bit. And I, it was my only way out. And instead of taking it 100% seriously, you know, I would go to therapy and then I would go to my phone and I would rage text. And I, it's just so hard to explain to people that aren't going through a divorce publicly. It is so, divorces are hard in general. do think at that time, the best thing for you would have been to have no phone completely

the entire time. Right. In retrospect, you know, for Brittany, for you, for it. Like I said, if I had to change one thing, and I did my research in a lot of different institutions, and they do give their phones back. It's not unheard of. Just to get back, so to social media, of course, has its positives, like staying easily connected to people, promoting businesses and products to large audiences.

So many people really rely on social media to make a living. I mean, I know a lot of. lot of people that rely on it. And it's kind of scary what's going on with TikTok right now because people do make a living on it. You know, but the rest in my opinion is is very, very toxic. Because like I said, I mean, quite honestly, I'm guilty of it myself. Let's be real for a second. This social media highlight real is 100% true. The photoshopping, the face tuning of photos, people posting their best moments of their day. Let's be honest, most of that's bullshit because they're going through a hard time. But they want other people to think that they're having a great time.

because again, it's an insecurity thing and it's what we want people to see. But it's not realistic. I think you get more out of things when you show, you know, what you're really going through, especially as a parent, especially as somebody going through what I'm going through, it's nice to read things like that. I don't agree with the people crying into the phones. I think that's a little much because I think you're looking for something there and you're looking for sympathy. So that I'm a little confused about. But, you know, you see so many of these mom influencers. So this is what I'm trying to get at. You know, posting their family photos and their matching outfits, going to church, you know, stories and snippets of people's perfect marriages and relationships.

That is all bullshit. And if you're buying that, you're just as much of a fool as these people doing it, in my opinion. You know, and that's what we all watch. That's what we watch all day long. And it's thrown in our faces. It's what we strive for in perfectly curated life, which in all honesty in this day and age is absolute shit. But guess what? It doesn't exist.

And I've said this 100 times. You know, I'll be honest. The big reason why I really wanted to be part of the Valley and create this show, I wanted to show the real and very raw lives of normal everyday people. It was my choice to put everything out there. It was my choice to talk about my divorce and what I was going through. It was my choice to talk about me going to an institution to better myself. Why?

Because I want people to see. this is real life. I'm not putting myself as an A-list celebrity at all. But I am somebody that's on TV. I am a public figure. And I do have people that, you know, look up to me and call and DM me and say, man, thank you so much for sharing. So if I can help one individual, then you know what? I've done my job and I'll feel happy. Regardless of what 90% of the people are going to say about me out there, you're this, you're that. You know what? Call me whatever you want, but this is real life. You know, the struggles and the challenges that people face and that, you know, I know, I know. everybody can relate to. It's not easy sharing these dark sides, you know, of my life, especially

after the past year. Like I said, it was the worst year in my life. Other than my father's death, I can't imagine going through something like this, not only going through it, but going through it publicly with a child. So despite what many of you think, it's, it's hard for me sometimes. And not sometimes. I'm going to be honest, you know, it's hard for me a lot. You know, I know that 90% the time I say I don't really give a fuck what anyone thinks. And I truly, and I truly, I think I feel that most, most of the time. You know, I've been in this industry for such a long time and I've learned to really, you know, block out the noise. But, you know, believe it or not, you know, I'm a human being, you know, yes, Jack's Taylor is a human being. I do have a heart. It's buried very deep and

It might be a darker shade of red than it's supposed to, but I do have a heart. You know, some words, they hurt. You know, they get under my skin. You know, I think people are going to be real, like, as your public is, I think people are going to be really surprised to hear you say that. And I'm happier saying it because, you know, what we see, and I'm always calling you saying, delete that. Like, why in Ryan?

Why are you responding in the comments? I know. I know. Calling people a clown in these things. Because it triggers me. Right. Because it actually does hurt. And I love that you're admitting that.

And the people that are doing this have three followers, have an egg as a pitcher. And I know they're sitting in their parents' basement or wherever they are. They're pissed off that their life didn't go the way they want. So what they're doing is projecting their insecurities out on me. That's exactly what they're doing. And I forget about that because sometimes I sit on my couch and I'll see thousands of great comments, but that one comment will piss me off. It's hurtful.

It's definitely hurt. Even Jacks gets hurt. It gets under my skin. these commenters are keyboard warriors, you know, and it could be a lot sometimes, especially when you're struggling with your own mental health, which I've been very, very open about. Just trying to wake up every morning and face the fucking day is hard. You know, but, you know, I know there's people out there watching and following my life and, you know, that connect with my battles and my story. And again, that's who I'm, that's my goal here. That's my, that's my, that's my, who I'm

targeting. And that's what I, that's the rewarding part of doing this show is I can put it all out there. You can love me or you can hate me, but this is what I'm dealing with. It's raw and unfiltered. So, all right, enough of that. I just kind of wanted to touch on that a little bit. So to go back to the hookup culture while I were here, I read this and I found this extremely interesting. I want to share it with you guys.

I'm just going to read it out loud here. The frequency of hookups has increased 1,000 percent in the last 100 years. Why is this? So during sexual encounters, men and women release this hormone called, I'm going to butcher this, but I'm going to spell it. O-X-Y-T-O-C-I-N. Okay, so oxytocin produces the euphoric high and feelings of emotional bond between partners during sex. Oxytocin effects are very powerful and what makes hookup culture so addictive. The hormone produces a sugar rush high. And if you're, and if you're ever eating yourself sick with candy, okay, imagine this. You know that sugar highs

are always a result in what? crashing like anything else. Coffee, sugar, you crash, right? That's right. The rush you get after engaging in hot, steamy one-night stand, you know, non-committed relationships has some serious drastic effects. Now, researchers report that people who are not depressed showed more depressive symptoms and experienced feelings of loneliness after engaging casual sex. Can I touch on this? Well, you could try. Okay. To me, in the past, before Brittany, I personally think casual hookups were. kind of like a drug. I think it was something that I was looking for. I think it's codependency. I think I really didn't get anything out of it. It was kind of an instant gratification. Again, I used the

word of Fabrese. I used it many times. I was for breezing a situation that I couldn't control and I thought a casual hookup would fix it, but it would end up being worse. That's exactly why you're hosting in the mind of a man because you were that person. I was that person. And I want to go back and I want to talk about why I've done what I've done. And we'll get into this later, but I am going to go back in the future, and I'm going to start from season one of Vanderpump, and I'm going to dissect all my relationships, all the dues, and mostly all the don'ts of what I did and why I did them.

And I'm going to look back and probably shake my head at myself 99% of the time, me watching. Well, I'm going to probably shake my head at all of it. I'm just going to be like, oh, my God, what is this? Because as you guys know, I don't watch the show. I think I've watched maybe two episodes of Vanderpump Rules, because I don't like to watch myself. I think people would want to know your opinion by you dissecting the other relationships.

I'm going to dissect them. I'm going to talk about things that people don't know about. Like there's a lot that people don't know. And I feel like because the show was 45 minutes long and we had so many cast members that they could have fit every scenario, you know, on the show in an hour long. And there was a lot that wasn't in there that was pretty good stuff that people, you know, they watched the show and sometimes the dots didn't connect. And it wasn't the show's fault or anything.

It's just we ran out of time. And I think people, if they knew how fights or arguments or situations happened, they would understand it a little more. And that was really frustrating. And that's the part I want to dissect a little bit in the future. So anyways, we're going to get back to casual hookups. Sorry, I go on these tangents sometimes. And I, you know, talk about other things.

But I'm excited to get into that in the future. So casual hookups are, in my opinion, tricky. You know, they definitely don't work long term. That's for sure. And it may work for a while, you know, but the one person, you know, but the one person, Usually, I want to say the female. I hate to say it, but I think the female usually ends up more attached. I feel like you're right by saying that.

And I'm not trying to offend anybody. But, you know, in my opinion, in my, you know, past, the female tends to, you know, fall. And you want to know why? Because we talked about this last week. Breadcrumbing, love bombing, you know. Guys want to keep the girl on the roster, regardless of how they feel about them. At that moment, they might want to, you know, put her on the shelf for a while and try something else, but they want to make sure they get her back.

So, okay, to pivot topics, I'm going to go on a different side real quick. On a lighter note, okay, because I think we kind of digressed in like a little bit of, I don't know, why hoogips aren't good, but because it can be good too. I came across a hilarious reel the other day. It said, can guys and girls be just friends? Now, I'm curious to know your thoughts on this, what you think. can a girl and a guy be platonically best friends and nothing more? Lori, we and I had a discussion about this and you know my thoughts on this.

What are your thoughts? I know your thoughts. I personally feel that yes, when you're a certain age and let's say you're married, you could absolutely have real friendships with guys that, for instance, who you work with. Right. Right. But in general, no, I don't have, I've been married for what, how many years, 18 years? No, I don't just have a best guy friend, unless they're gay. I do have, you know, gay best friends for sure. But no, I do. I think that would be weird. But in terms of work, yes. I think because of my life in the route that I chose being in the entertainment industry and living this this crazy life that I live, I don't think girls and guys can be just friends. Now, that being said, I think girls and guys can start out as friends. I think they can maybe even go a few years.

But at some point, there's going to be a situation. Okay, can I, I'll give you an example. So I had a good friend. I'm not going to name her name. We were friends for years. She was the first person, really, that I hung out here with in L.A. I met her in New York and whatever in L.A. And we had a relationship for years.

And it was just friends. Were you attracted to her while you were friends? I was not. I was not attracted to her while we were friends at all. She was my friend and we got along and we hung out. We had that going. but I physically wasn't attracted. Is she pretty? Absolutely. But it wasn't my type. But down the line... You were attracted to her. A hundred percent you were attracted to her. I wouldn't kick her out of bed. My point is, I ended up sleeping with her. And that was, but it was years down the line. I want to say it was at least five to six years later.

And did it ruin the friendship? We took a back seat on talking as much as we did. We took a back seat on talking as much as we did. We took a back seat. You took the back seat or she? I think we both did. I mean, we also, it was years down the line. My,

you know, my friendships were changing with other people. I think too, we, I don't know. I just, I think too. And then another situation is,

like, I would ask her girl advice. And I think it bothered her when I'd ask girl for advice. So I think she would give me misinformation because she didn't want to see me with another girl, even though we weren't sleeping together or hooking up. Yes, but if you started off as best friends,

right? you already have that connection with each other and then it resulted in you guys sleeping together. That's not just a random hookup. And you probably treated it like that, you know, where you just, okay, it happened one night, whatever. And then you continued, you know, just being friends with her. But to her, it was more. And you didn't acknowledge that. I didn't acknowledge that.

And it goes back to that old movie with Julia Roberts. Do you remember when it was called something with friends or friends? Friends with Benefit. No, no. Julia Roberts back in the day where she, her best friend getting married. Do you guys know the movie I'm talking about? It was like in the 90s. It was a great movie. My best friend's wedding.

My best friend's wedding. Okay. That's exactly what, like, kind of what happened. He was getting married. She was like the maid of honor of his, like, it was just, and he, she ended up falling for him after being best friends for so long. Again, this is kind of, you know, this is nobody's right. Nobody's wrong here. This is, again, just my opinion.

No, you were wrong because as your bet, yes, you were wrong. Because as best friends, you should have had the conversation. And that is exactly why you're doing this in the Man of the Mind podcast. Because explaining, you know, from that toxic male perspective, some of the mistakes that you've done in your past. But I didn't want to have that conversation because it could have ruined our friendship. Because I think in the, like, it was, I don't want to say it was fun. But the idea of it could happen was kind of fun. It's kind of like texting somebody and meeting somebody on DM and you're kind of flirting with two people.

at the same time. You want to keep it there. And I felt like if I would have just shut the door. These are the games of a toxic player. Again, this is me in my 20s, though. I was 20 years old, 28, 29 years old at this time. And again, I developed these traits really early when I moved to L.A. So I'm curious to know what you guys think about this. So anyway, my answer is no.

Lori's answer is yes. So agree to disagree. So, okay, I saw this comedian who I, who I really like, you know, and he kind of springboarded really, really quick. And I think a lot of you guys know who he is. His name is Matt Rife. Very controversial. Very controversial guy.

Stunningly handsome, though. Stunningly handsome. I can say that. Is it actually possible? He's saying that it's actually possible for a guy and a girl to be friends. And his response was, as long as the girl is not attractive, I think he used the term ugly. Yes. Um, okay.

Uh, again, this is probably why he's very controversial. You know a lot of my friends. Do I have unattractive friends? I mean, all of your friends are on television. So of course, everybody's beautiful. I think everybody's, I think everybody's attractive. There's some people, you know, that, but see, attractive is in the beholder. I are the beholder, right?

I am very, I have my own type. I know you want to laugh at that, but I have my own, I have my type. and what I think, what someone thinks is drop-degorgeous, I think is, eh, you know, what I think is amazing. Other guys think is whatever. Like, for instance, me and Tom Schwartz have total polar opposite attractions, you know. A lot of my friends, I, you know, we all have different tastes. But that's what makes life beautiful. That's what makes the world go around.

If we all like the same thing, then, you know, that'd be boring, right? And, you know, I have different interests. I didn't, you know, when I was born, I didn't say, well, this is what I like. This is what I want. This is just so happens what I like. And I, it is what it is. That's what anybody likes. Nobody just, you like what you like.

You know, no matter what your friends date or whatever, you like what you like. So this obviously guys, Matt's, uh, Matt's stand up is very controversial. But he's definitely made, you know, a name for himself, especially on Netflix and his shows around the world. I think Ashton Coucher is the one who found him and kind of gave him the, uh, the green light. If I, if I'm making that correct, I think that he's the one that got him going and kind of, funded the whole thing more or less. You know more pop culture things than I do. Because I scroll and I want to say

Ashton Coucher is the one that kind of started him. And I think that they did a commercial together back in the day and I think he was doing shit on his own and kind of just went off on his own. And it's very rare that you see a comedian who's stunningly handsome. Most comedians are, you know, yeah, all right, but they're not stunningly handsome.

I mean, maybe you can just be friends if the girl gives you the ick. And we've talked about the ick, many, many times. You know, in some way, there's zero attraction. Now, I've had girls that given me the ick, and we've talked about this. You recorded that podcast, the Ick podcast with Schwartz a couple weeks ago, and we were actually on the plane coming home from Toronto, the three of us. Oh, my God. We had a sit economy, people. When, oh my God. One thing I'll tell you guys about Jacks, he is the least bougie person. I will say that. Like, he will eat anywhere, you know,

you'll eat anything. You don't need an 80. dollar steak. No. You're not like Jesse who, you know, likes to go to. My friend Jesse, by the way, who you guys know from the show is extremely bougie. Louis Vuitton Lovers drives the Porsche. You're wearing Louis Vuitton Lovers right now.

I am. There's something, yeah. But there's things that like, but I get them. I don't like, I get them as a gift. I would never spend that kind of money on myself. And what Lori's trying to say is I am the least bougiest person in the world. So you are except when it comes to flying anything but business class. Yes.

The biggest hand trams Jacks Taylor has is over a flight situation. I cannot. And I think I'm allowed to be bougie in this. We're all allowed to be bougie in certain things, right? Some people like to eat certain things. People like to get their coffee from certain places. I need to sit business or first class. I cannot handle it.

I can't remember the reason. Now, this, no, we got kicked off a flight is what happens. Sometimes we got kicked off something. We got bumped. Okay, no, no. So don't see kicked off because there was that incident with you with the chair recliner, but we're not going to talk about that. Um, no. Can we explain what happened there? There was a reason why I got kicked off. And it was not for

me blowing a tantrum. Okay. I got on the plane. Okay. I paid $3,500 for my ticket. Okay. It was at flight from New York to L.A. at six in the morning. I had to go home. I had to pick up my son and, you know, take him to school and do all this stuff. Again, I paid for this, the seat. So when I got on the plane, the seat was broken. It was stuck in recline. I couldn't fix the seat. So therefore they were like, sir, we need you to go back and sit to economy. And I go, listen, I can't sit in a five-hour flight in the middle. It's just not going to work. And they were like, you know, and the plane, by the way, by the way,

had a tent. No, the plane. The plane was back from the gates or whatever you want to call it, the tunnel. It already stepped back. And I couldn't fix the seat. And I go, I'm sorry, I'm not going to sit in the middle on a five-hour flight back to LA when I have a long day. Something definitely happened.

I wasn't going to get my money back. The fact that I heard about it through press, I do believe... Thank you, page six. You're... Yeah, so what? You're, you sometimes like withhold the truth a little bit. I know you well enough to know. What was I withholding the truth?

The seat was broken. Yeah. What else can I possibly say? Were probably very grumpy. Yes. But I will say in Toronto, when this did happen... No, no, no. But now I'm going back to Toronto recently.

When we were together, it was my... self Jackson Schwartz and I don't know what happened. We were bumped. Like suddenly we got an email saying your business class flights, we have no, are no longer. There's no more room on the plane. So we're putting you in economy. Anyway, I think I kept my cool because you were there. That's what I think happened. Because I was there and I'm like, guys, it's really not that deep. We're going to get home, you know. I just don't know how they can bump you like that. And we didn't get our money back. Nothing. They just said, nope, sorry. Air Canada. By the way, that's who it was.

Yeah. And just bumped us. And like, I can't, like, I can't tell you how. And I think you had a middle seat and you had a lot of anxiety about that. So then we, I had switched with someone, the one, the person in. Yeah. And then I was in the middle. We put eye masks on.

That was the worst experience of, flight experience of my life sitting in between Jacks and Tom Schwartz for six hours. You know what? It ended up being a lot of fun, though. It ended up being a lot of fun. We put eye masks on. Yeah. Like, we were so bougie back there.

We did everything. I can't handle when people talk loud, when people snore, when people take their shoes off. But even Brittany has told me this before, and I saw it with my own eyes. You put your feet up on the armrest, too. So you hate when people do it. Yes, but you do it on the back of somebody's seat. When I'm in first class, when I'm in my cubicle, yeah, I can't see the feet. But when you're sitting in economy, keep your freaking shoes on.

Nobody wants to see that. But Brittany has said you take your shoes off. I do. When I'm in my cubicle, my pod. Brittany and I, first of all, for the fact, we've never sat economy except for when we take our connecting flight to Lexington. But just so people do understand. Of course I think what shoes off. Anytime they're flown out for press or for an event, it's the companies and the networks that fly them, obviously.

you know, put them in business class. I don't know. Would you buy your own business class flight? No. No. No. I'm very frugal with money. First of all, I'm very frugal.

And I've never once, in the last 12 years of being on television, I've never once paid for my flight. Right. No. And that's another thing I'm not sure people know about you. You're very frugal. I'm very frugal with money. I'm very good with money. But like, I know what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck.

And I think it took me from living paycheck to paycheck to really realize how to manage money. It really did because I didn't know how to manage money. we just spend, spend, spend, spend and, like, didn't care. And especially when I lost my job on Vanderpump, I was, what, COVID happened, I lost my job, my wife was pregnant, I had a mortgage, I had car payments, like, I had all this. And thank God, you know, I had a savings account. You know, yes, I had to ask for Brittany for a little bit of help here and there. But I was okay.

We were okay. I wasn't being like, oh, shit, what we're going to do? I wasn't relying on my paycheck. Yeah, no, but the point was we were saying, like, you're not boogey like that, Except when it comes to flying. To flying. And I literally took a video of Jack's walking past business class into economy. And he looks back.

We need a po. There's nothing worse than people in first class. Just I like staring you down as you walk past. And I like, I'm on a television show, right? So they're like, why is Jackson Taylor going to economy? Why is Tom Schwartz going on? That's what I'm thinking in my head. They're probably not even, they probably don't even know who we are.

People are going to listen to this and think you're so. gross for saying this because it really but what they don't understand like even at the you know at the facility you're not staying in this beautiful like where these eight I drive a pickup truck okay I am not boozy caught on the floor you're really simple every single person out there has their one thing that they need every single person whether it's their designer coffee whether it's a certain shoe they have to wear whether it's a certain hair hair product everyone knows you drink gas station coffee I drink gas station coffee I drive a pickup truck I'm from a blue collar family. I saved my money. But it's just about flying. But what is it about the first class that you need? I need to be not around other people.

I don't like, like other people bother me, crinkling bags, snoring, loud people on the phone, people talking out loud, you know, people slamming your seat. Like, I can't, I get anxiety. But there's like nine of those people or ten of those people in business class. I've never had an issue in business class. Never. People are usually, you know, I don't want to offend anybody. but people are just kind of keep to themselves more or less.

You know, I just, I'm sorry. Again, everybody has their one thing, and I don't think I'm offending anybody, okay? It's your one thing, and he also gets these flights for free, so you're not paying for it. And you know what? Even Bravo, and they're really good with me about this. They're like, Jacks, do you want to stay in these lavish hotels?

And I'm never, I'm always like, no, I like to stay in my one hotel. I like to stay at the Gansavort in New York. I like to stay at certain places. Well, there was that one time years ago that, even Brittany had said, remember you're like, Lori, I cannot stay. We cannot stay at this. It was literally a bed. New York Hotel. No, I'll tell you. You want me to say the name of the hotel? No, don't say the name. Okay. They are very nice, but it's not, it's not good for two people. It was good for one person. It was good for one person, but it was, it was not good for two. And obviously, I'm staying with a woman, right? So she's got a lot more accessories and she needs to get ready and, you know, just more things. She needs to hang up things. Like, I'm a guy. Yeah, and especially when you're going, you're going for. press you're going for watch what happens live you know brittany has the glam team coming in you need space

oh god the room was tiny and like i said for me it would have been fine but you know brittany no she needed her space like any girl needs her space you know but i'm the least bougie at all i mean i don't know if you look at the housewives they need to stay in the trump hotel they need you know everything and we just i think our cast is just kind of like we're easy we don't care we're just happy to be together you know and hang out and we like to go to our lunches and you know as long as i'm in the meatpacking district i'm good you know, as long as I can go to Catch, you know, as long as I can go to my places. He's not boozy, but he's naming Catch. Yeah, because, by the way, these people always say, hey, come to our restaurant.

So I'm very lucky that they like me and that I love going and I'm so blessed and honored that I get to go to these places because, like I said, I'm very frugal with my money. I would never go to these places on my own dime. Never. I'm not that kind of guy. I drink gas station coffee, AMPM, PM, by the way. So, anyway. So like I said, I did, I did going back to the Iick, Lori, you'll account to this.

So I actually did an episode with Schwartz about this, by the way. We called about The Ick. And we were watching our show. Nobody wants this. And that's where I learned about the ick. I want to point out something funny. Nobody wants this every single time Jack's posts. He writes the word.

He spells it. K-N-O-W. That's how they spell it on the show. No, it's not. They don't? No. And I've told you multiple times about this, but you continuously spell it this way. And I think it's hilarious because we are going to have Aaron Foster on the

podcast in the future. So excited. And Jacks is friendly with her. And she's actually, her husband is a huge fan. She's, her husband had her birthday, his birthday party at my bar. At my bar. And they bought a cameo from you. Yeah. They're awesome. And her show is amazing. And I love her and I can't wait to have her on. I'm so stoked. I have so many questions because. Yeah. So it's nobody is, spell N-O. I know how it's spelled. Well, no, no, you don't know. I could have swore it was K-N-O. Maybe I was wrong. Well, I was wrong. Yeah. Are you sure? And I know people are going to say, because they know I have access to Jack's, social media pages and everything. But, you know, I can't spend my entire day. And my team can't spend their entire days deleting and uploading

and respelling. I mean, this is Jacks. This is who he is. He owns who he is. He's not a great speller. No, and I don't care. I don't give a shit. I'm in the car most of the time doing this, I'm quick, I'm fast, and I don't edit. I get yelled at by Lori and Ryan all the time. Edit your freaking posts before you post them. Read it. I mean, how hard is it? Read it back to yourself. And yeah, I've gotten in trouble for that. But anyway, getting back to my ick factors. Okay, here is Jack's Taylor's ick factors. Okay, I cannot handle when a girl has a messy car or an apartment. Cannot handle it. Again, this is with my OCD. Now, if you've seen my house, I am immaculate. It drives me crazy if the remote control is not vertical on my coffee table.

It needs to, like, I can't leave my house. In fact, I was late this morning because I saw a crumb on the counter. So I think it's ironic because your place now is immaculate. Immaculate. But when you were staying at the house, and Brittany and I, we joke about this, actually, when you were staying at the house yourself. By myself. Yes.

Like, if I'd go to the bathroom, there was no toilet paper there. it was a little bit messy. Okay, by the way, by the way Brittany maintains the house, it's pristine. I give her that. I give her that. But I was going through such a dark, dark place because of the separation. You guys will see this. I can't really get into it that I just didn't care.

And I didn't care about nothing. I was sleeping in the same clothes, sleeping on the couch. What man do you know that goes through divorce takes it well? They go through a hole no matter what. The divorce destroys both people, but I always see the, manliest men break in half when they're going through a divorce. I just do. I think divorce is the hardest thing I've ever been through.

And I've been through my father's death. This is the hardest thing I've ever gone through. And I never thought in a million years we would end up here. But again, we'll get into that later. Anyway, my second ick, okay, is cigarettes. I cannot handle if a girl smokes. That is a huge deal breaker. I think because I grew up in a household of smokers, my mother and my father were smokers,

That's just the way it was in the 80s and the 90s. Everyone smoked. It was like a thing. You know, they smoked in airplanes, for God's sake. There was ashtrays in airplanes. I think it's really common, actually, that when kids grow up around it, it actually deters them from doing it. And I can tell you right now, I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never.

Wow. Never even tried? No. The smell, it just, ugh. And like, I remember, like, if I liked a girl or whatever, you can smell it a mile away. And I'm like, I am not kissing that ashtray mouth. I'm not. Okay, here's another one.

This one's kind of funny. I think I made Lori laugh with this one. Platform shoes. Okay, so I know this was a thing in the early 2000s. Like, when you go to Vegas and you see a girl in those BB freaking foam platform flip-flops that are just dirty and white. Oh, gross. To me, it's not even the platform shoes. It's the next thing.

It's the precise size of the foot that you like. And by the way, it is Brittany. size foot. It is Britney size foot. That is a huge deal breaker. And I think you and I were talked about it. What is the first thing you noticed when you see somebody? Am I jumping ahead here? I'm not sure. What is the first thing you notice when you see somebody? I did ask you that.

And I don't mean to be I mean, obviously you see your face. That's a given. But where do you go from there? I am a I'm just going to be blunt. I'm an ass and boobs guy. You know, I, you said boobs. And I actually think that is not the most common answer for men.

Okay. What do they look at? I looked online and I think the answer was like they did a poll or statistics have shown that men actually look towards the cheekbones and bridge of the face. Something strange like that that you wouldn't expect. The only problem, I love a good cheekbone. Love it. But the problem with that is usually girls in my opinion who are, have such great bone structure, they don't have the body type that I'm attracted to. Does that make sense? They're a little bit more on the thin side that I like. Because their face is so thin, that means usually their body is very thin. And that's just not what I'm attracted to.

I need, I like voluptuous, curvy women. That's just my taste. Nothing against anything else, but that's what I like. And usually women that are like that, you know, have a little bit more, I think, just fat in their face. Is that safe to say? They just have a little bit more. Yeah.

And okay, so here's the next one that kind of threw Lori for a loop. You have to have a good, you have to have good feet. They cannot be larger, and I'm taking seven and a half. Seven and a half is my go too. You have to have a good arch. They have to be tan, and they have to have a white nail polish. Not have to, but I would prefer a white nail polish or no nail polish at all. White or no nail polish at all.

Manicured, tan, good arch. March seven and a half. That's the biggest they can be. What are your thoughts on that? Is that disgusting? I mean, no, it's not disgusting. It's just, it's, it's shocking. Like I, okay, you're, you're a breed of your own. I, I didn't exactly what you want very, very specific. It's very clear. I love feet. I didn't say when I signed up when I was born, I didn't sign up to say, hey, what there wasn't a list of like, okay, what are your future fetishes? I didn't sign up for this. That's just what I like. People like weird shit. That's why there's, such a plethora of different things on porn websites. If you ever go on a porn website,

there's a million different fetishes. Great. I'm not into 90% of them, but somebody else is. And again, that's the way of the world and that's what we like. So just to get into that, those are my three, those are my three things. I mean, there's more, but those are my top. I'm curious to know what the women look to and guys is the first thing. Like, I think what I see, not just guys in general, but people in general, I look at their mouth, their teeth. Yeah. You're not the first person that I've heard other girls say the same thing. Teeth are an important thing.

Like when I'm speaking with you now, I actually, I may look like I'm looking you in the eye, but I'm not. I look at your mouth. And I have veneers. So my teeth are perfect. You know what? Everybody, you know what, this is a gleeced or another thing. Everyone always says, Jacks, you're so full of yourself. I tell you that every day.

Right? You know what? Who the fuck am I supposed to be full of if I'm not full of myself? Here we go. Of course I'm... What did I tell you the other day? Of course I'm full of. Who else am I supposed to be full of?

Who else should I? Yeah, come on. Okay, girls, I was watching a video the other day and someone had great advice on how to get over a guy. They said the trick is to give yourself the ick about them. Again, please watch. Nobody wants this. Think of the most revolting things about him.

Even if you have to make up scenarios in your head, picture them doing something absolutely disgusting, like picking his nose or just picking his nose or scratching his ass or, you know, just something gross about guys, because let's be honest, guys do a lot of disgusting things. I mean, I'm guilty of it, but I just do it privately. I thought that was really, really funny. And the ick is a new term. Like, it's a real thing. And, like, I've seen people do disgusting things.

I've been on dates where I thought, okay, this is going well. And then they just did something bizarre and I'm like, time to go. I didn't, there was no, there was no term for it. their best behavior. Yeah. Okay. Yes. 98% of the time they are.

But, you know, you're going to go on a date where someone throws you for a loop. Again, when I did this, there was no ick that wasn't around that word. So it just, it was called. For you, your icks are very superficial, though. That was the difference between you and Schwartz. For Schwartz, it was more, you know, their communication style. Bullshitz. Bullshit.

I believe it. Listen. Okay, maybe Tom is like, yes, like that. But you, listen, he's very. He's very picky when it comes to girls. He has a certain type. He likes pretty girls, but he has a type. So you know what I think of Hugh Jick is for women?

What? Like the biggest across the board. And I think a lot of women aren't going to agree with me right now. I know TikTok does. Men that go to the gym and take mirror selfies of their muscles. Guilty. Yep. Guilty.

Guilty. Because you want to know why? I don't know why. You know what? The reason I do it is because especially lately, I've been working my ass off in the gym. and I just want to show it. I guess it's kind of the same thing as girls showing bikini pictures, right? Is that the same?

I guess, but I'm just proud of myself for like working so hard in the gym. I spend two hours a day, seven days a week in the gym, and I want to see progress. I mean, yeah, but we find iticky. I know, and I know, and I don't know why I'm looking for other people's validation. You know, I just want to, you know, I'm working in the gym. Somebody, God, damn it, tell me that I'm looking good. Like, God, Jacks, put on size or whatever. It makes me feel good.

And I'm not looking for it from women, to be honest. I'm looking at it from men like, man, Jacks, you're Jack. What are you doing? I get off on that. I get off on that. I just, I really, really like it. Well, guys, thank you so much for tuning into In the Mind of a Man. These are just some of the things that keep me up at night, to be honest.

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