When Reality Hits with Jax and Brittany - REWIND: Chelsea Blackwell & Abigail Heringer

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

Brittany is in the Bahamas with her girlfriends! This week she sits down with Love is Blind's Chelsea Blackwell and (returning guest) The Bachelor's Abigail Heringer!! Originally aired: 06/28/24Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Nutrafol: Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code REALITYHITS Tempo: For a limited time, Tempo is offering my listeners 60% off your first box! Go to TempoMeals.com/REALITYHITSDiscover Your New Home at apartments.comProgressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust ProgressiveSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I mean, we've had the best time on the boats and everything else. But it's an epic girls trip because I'm with a bunch of reality TV queens. And who would think that we would all be in the same room together, let alone on a trip? A lot of people wrote in asking how I know all these girls. And it's because we all have the same amazing publicist, Lori KPR. Shout out. We did this trip last year as well. We went to Cabo.

And this year we went to the Bahamas. and, you know, it's just been so much fun. So we're so grateful. Thanks, Lori, and thanks Baha Hall-Mar for having us. So on this episode, I'm going to interview a couple of the girls, and I cannot wait to get into it. Love is Blind, The Bachelor. I mean, we have it all. So, at first is Megan Fox,

aka Chelsea Blackwell. Hey. Hi, honey. How are you? From Love is Blonde. I adore you. I adore you. I just met you for the first time on this vacation, and I think that you were spectacular.

You're so sweet. You're spectacular. Thank you. Okay. So love is blonde. Yes. I know you've had a crazy journey. Yes.

But I want to go back to the beginning. How did it start for you? Like, how did you get into the reality TV world? Yeah. So being single in this day and age is crusty and it's dusty. dating's hard and I figured they were coming to Charlotte I got sent the application from everyone and their mom and I just decided to apply and so all your friends were sending you the application yeah they're like we lost hoping you like here's here's the show coming so give it a give it a shot

I didn't think in a million years I would get this opportunity the next day I heard from them it took almost a year to get everything passed and through all the psyche vows and all that good stuff and then I got on the show I was going to ask like how does it how does one get on on that show. Obviously, you apply. And then you said it took an entire year. Yeah, almost. Yeah. Wow. So a lot of people didn't apply. They, they scouted a lot of people. Myself and Laura were the ones who applied. And it was a journey. And yeah, and here I am. Are you so happy that you did it or like, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm here with you right now. Right. And we're in the Bahamas. Like, hello. Everything worked out. I'm so grateful I did. It was such an amazing, incredible experience and I met so many wonderful people from it.

So that's awesome. So you did get engaged on the show to Jimmy. Yes. And he broke up with you, right? Yeah. I called the wedding off three days before. Three days before. How long in between the engagement and the wedding?

Like how much space is in between the engagement and the wedding? It's like four weeks. Four weeks. Yeah. Okay. Do you get to see each other every day in between, like to get to know each other more? Yeah, so after we engaged, they sent us to the Dominican or on a vacation. We're on the vacation for five days and then we lived together for three weeks.

So, yeah, it's been, there's enough time to be together to, like, know if that person's for you or not. So why did he say he broke up with you? Like, what was his reasoning? Because hello, you were hot as hell. Excuse me. Thank you. I've seen many clips and I'm like, Jimmy, how did you break up with Chelsea? Like, this does not make sense.

This is not compute. No, it was wild. He broke up because all this drama. He has a lot of girlfriends. And, you know, I... He has a lot of girlfriends. A lot of girlfriends. Yeah.

Even though he did a TV show, Love is Blonde. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, he just, like, a majority of his friends are girls and he just didn't... Oh, you mean, that girlfriend's not like he's dating. Not like he's dating. I mean, who knows? Who knows?

He could be. I don't know. But, yeah. So there was some drama in there. and yeah. Well, I mean, I've heard that you guys have been spotted together a lot. What's that about? Oh, okay.

Yeah, give me all the tea. I need to hear it all. So when the show was airing, he was really, really, really there for me when I was getting all the hay and, you know, the internet is crazy, it's gnarly, it's intense. Yes. And he was very supportive of me. We were doing press, a lot of press together. And, you know, the world takes what they want to take.

And they thought we were together. Do you think you got closer to him as a friend doing like the press and stuff together after the fact? You know, I fell in love with him and I had emotions come up where I was like, oh my gosh, like I really care for this guy. Like, this is why I fell for him. He is lovely. He's a wonderful person. He's amazing. We just didn't work out together.

But at that time, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I could see myself being with him. So it did bring up some old feelings. Yeah. Okay. I always wonder about that like, you know, because on love is blonde. you don't know what the person looks like who you're talking to, you know? So like what if, what was it like the anticipation before you saw the person in real life? Like that's, I feel like would be the most nerve wracking of the entire thing.

Totally. It was nuts because I completely checked out. I fell in love with him for who he is, who he is as a person, like his soul, his goals, his dreams. What he looked like was not a thought in my head. Of course that matters to me. It matters if you're human. Yeah.

Of course, natural. I mean, physical attraction is important, but it's not everything. Right, right. So it wasn't something I was too worried about. Of course, I have a type. Of course I have, you know, I want to be attracted to you. But it wasn't why I fell for him, obviously. Right.

So were you worried that if you saw them and you were completely unattracted, like, were you worried about what your face would look like? I mean, you're on TV now. Yeah, girl, yeah. Like, what were, how was that? Um, I just like. It was intense because he wasn't my type. And I'm getting dragged on the internet because both of us weren't each other's type.

I wasn't his type. He wasn't my type. He's blonde. He's light skin. Like, I don't really go for that normally. So I wasn't expecting him to look like that at all. In my head, I pictured like this tall, dark, handsome, like, country bunkin, like, the complete opposite. Like, love is blonde is so crazy to me because you literally have no idea.

So you're just imagining what this person is kind of like whenever I was pregnant. Like you imagine what your baby might look like. I know it's like a weird comparison. Right. No. But you know what I mean? Yeah. You have this like vision in your head.

And when it's not, it's completely opposite. He's handsome regardless. Yeah. Yeah. He's whatever. But he's just not my time. And I'm not his. So.

Well, did you guys talk about that at all whenever you first met each other? Like aside from which we're going to get into the Megan Fox comments obviously. But like aside from all of that stuff. Like did you guys talk about like what you were attracted to at all? Because in the rooms like you don't want to actually ask about physical appearance, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, you can.

There's like no rules saying that you can. Okay. There should be. Yeah. Because clearly for my mistake, the Megan Fox thing, like he had this envision. Like he visioned me a certain type of way. And I was complete opposite. You're not complete opposite.

Same with him. So, yeah, you could. you wanted to like you can be like hey um i don't know just certain things that you could ask so we did talk about our types and i usually go for like had it up yeah same you know it's all dark in hand so like you know whatever um so it was very different so we did talk about that okay i love that yeah okay well let's get into the megan fox comment because that went viral yeah um how did you feel about it going so viral and how did you deal with like all the comments because Because I've obviously been through a lot of, like, social media things over my years in reality TV.

And I know how hard it can be. Yeah. But you seem so, like, positive. And I really love that about you. So I just want to know how you took it as a first timer on reality TV and how you were able to, like, navigate your life through it. So I totally forgot I said that. I was more concerned about, like, goofy comments that I made that I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, people are going to take this and run with it. So when that aired, I remember watching it and I remember thinking it was so goofy.

I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so funny. Okay, like, let's move along with our life. Like, no one didn't remember that. So you never thought like just being like, people say that I'll, because you weren't like, I look like, I look like, I look like, I've gotten it on the plane. I have gotten it before. I don't see it. Which you do.

It's the eyes, it's the coloring. You know, I see it too. You're beautiful. She's beautiful. Like, come on. Yeah. So I just, when it aired, I'm like, I didn't think anything of it. I didn't think the world was going to take it by storm.

And then I remember that night, it was just like the world turned upside down. And I was getting dragged. That was just the beginning of the dragging. And it would just open a door. Yeah. I don't think people would have ever came for me. I mean, you know, there's going to be haters out there regardless. Yeah.

I don't think people would have really come for me as hard for my looks if I didn't compare myself to the most beautiful woman in the world. I mean, she's gorgeous. But you are gorgeous too. Give yourself credit. I am. Yeah, you are. I think I am.

But if people didn't, if I didn't compare myself to her, I might have had a little, you know, easier journey. But I'm, like I said, I'm here right now. And that comment, it might have been returous to begin with. But it got me here. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm, like I said, I'm proud of you for just, like, going through it and shining through it and being so positive and nice because that's what the world needs. And also, like, Megan Fox responded.

She did. Which is awesome. I googled what she said. Let's see. she said, I didn't watch it, but I think in general, no one deserves to be bullied. I didn't think she deserved that at all. I think people went way too hard. I did see a picture of her.

So that's kind of being like, she does kind of look like me. I call it. Like, all you hate her, shut up. The queen herself has answered. She answered, and she wasn't upset, and she was like, nobody deserves that. She definitely doesn't deserve that. Like, that's amazing. It was incredible.

Megan Fox on Transformers. Hello. I wasn't saying, hey, right now in this time of her life, I look just like her. I never would say that. Yeah, come on. Let's give it. But still, I love it. And like I said, I see the resemblance.

And I think a lot of people out there actually do see that. And I hate that you got hate for that. But I love how you, like, handle it all. Like, that's what grace and like being positive. That's what matters. Totally. Because the whole like Instagram comment section can be brutal. Absolutely.

They're going to, you know, you can say whatever you want in life. and they're going to come for something. No matter what. Anything. I always say Jesus could have an Instagram and somebody is going to hate on him. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. It does not matter.

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So I'm kind of just seeing where things go and living my best life. Are you going on like dates? Like meaning like, is there certain people that you've been hanging out with or a certain person? You don't have to say name. Yeah, yeah, I've been seeing someone. I got onto Bumble. And I gave it a chance. I was terrified, but I gave it a chance.

And, you know, a second day I met someone who's great. And so kind of staying where that goes. We'll see. Well, good luck. Oh, my gosh. I'm so happy. I've never done a dating app before. Yeah.

Girl, you're not missing much. I mean, I've been with Jacks. Well, for nine years. So, like, I never did the dating app thing. That wasn't, like, big then. I mean, this is, like, crazy. It's weird. Dating is so crazy.

It's crusty and dust. do you think dating shows like love is blonde the bachelorette like all the girls that we're you know seeing today and talking with today are great ways to meet the love of your life or do you think the competition aspect is like a little bit of what makes you feel like you fall in love yeah no i think that there's so much science behind it especially i you know speaking of them they're all in incredible relationships yeah like let's be real like let's look at the statistics I mean, it's actually crazy. Right.

And then with love is blind, the science behind love is blind. It's so there. It's so proven. There's so many successful relationships with Love is Blind franchise as well. Like, I think there's so much potential. Obviously, I did it because I had faith. Yeah. So, yeah, I think there's, you know, really great examples of couples.

I love that. And the world is changing so much. You never know how you're going to meet somebody. Yeah. It's so true. I mean, clearly on dating apps. Like, why not going to show? Yeah. I mean, what's really the difference?

Right. It's so true. I'm embarrassing yourself on TV, but, you know. Other than millions of people judging you, there's not that much difference than a dating app. You know, on a dating app, are you, like, talking about what you like, and, you know, you're kind of talking to the person before you meet them. Exactly.

So what's the difference? So I see it. Yeah. I just find out that you're a flight attendant. Which is crazy to me, because before this whole, life of mine. I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah. I think a flight attendant would be such a fun job. Yeah. Like I was even looking into it. But you're still doing, you're still being a flight attendant to this day, correct? Very little. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. It's such a great job. It's so much fun.

It's, you know, I get to travel and see things and meet people and I love people. So yeah, you're a people person. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. So are you. Yeah. I think I would have been great at it. Oh, I think I would have been like doing all. emotions like, buckle your seatbelt, the airbag will come out. What do they, what do you say? Do it to yourself before your child. I'm like, how am I supposed to put the thing on me before I put it on cruise? Like, I'm sorry, like, that's not happening. Even if you tell me that, like, I'm still going to put it on cruise first. Yeah, yeah. That's a good mom right there. That's a good mom. Listen, you're doing great. Oh, my gosh. So I don't know if you know this about Jacks,

but he is the world's worst flyer. Oh, no. It's been something that we've talked about on this podcast many, many of times. Yeah. And he just, like, flying with him is super hard. Like, he's scared. No, not he's scared. He just gets very anxious and, like, everything becomes, like, a big deal.

Yeah. And, like, he gets very rushed and bra, rah, rah, rah, rah, bra. Traveling and kind of rude to people. No, we hate that. And I can't stand somebody being rude to people. Like, girl. It mortifies, especially a flight attendant. Oh, yeah.

So I want to know what are some of your biggest pet peeves as a flight attendant? Oh, my gosh. There's really one general one where you just think that I am your personal stewardess. When I have like, stewardess, when I'm your personal flight attendant and you don't think I have anybody else to deal with and just you, so you're snapping at me or you're ringing your call at a million times. I'm thinking that I don't have anything else going on. Right. That drives me insane. Also, when you're rude to, like, other passengers or inconsiderate, or if you're listening

to movies or music out loud, I will call the cops. Like, you're like, don't listen to music out loud. There's other people on this flight. It's just shared space. Yeah, it is. It drives me nuts. That's like somebody doing a FaceTime. Like, when I go to the Nels salon and somebody's on FaceTime and the Nilsla, I'm like,

what are you doing? Straight to jail. What are you doing? That is the most annoying thing. So rude. Oh, my gosh. What about like after you were on the show and you were obviously a very popular personality on love is blonde? Did people recognize you all the time?

Yeah, it was, I didn't think it was going to be as crazy as it was. And it has delayed flights tremendously. People just are so excited. Even if they like me or if they don't, it's just someone that they know from TV. And so they just get excited and I get excited because they're excited. Yeah. It's wild. It's wild. Oh, my gosh.

I love that. It's so fun. Yeah. What do you think is the biggest misconception about you from Love is Blonde? So, people took from the show that I'm very insecure. I'm very whining. I'm so needy. And I'm the complete opposite.

I don't get that at all, guys. If you thought that about Chelsea, I'm telling you, I've not seen that one time, this entire trip. You know, when you're put into a relationship that makes you feel a little type of way where you don't feel safe. you don't feel secure, you don't feel any of these type of things. Of course, those are going to come up. So that's the complete opposite of me. I think that the internet has really seen a different side of me. So my trajectory has completely flipped.

Yeah. I mean, you are so sweet and so bright. Now let's go into Celebrity Crush. Yeah. Who would be your top celebrity crush? I'm only asking the single ladies this. I love this. So, Chavotte.

Seven, from Perfect Match. He's a babe. He's a babe. Yeah. He is a babe. He's all tatted. You guys would be like MGK and Megan Fox. I'm screaming.

I love it. I feel so bad. No one could say his name right. And I'm one of them. But God bless. It's like, what if he was actually Stephen? And then he was like, I'm going into reality TV. Yeah.

I'm going to be really archie and, like, mysterious. Like, Jeff. He was Jason. Now he's like, I'm going to be jacked. Wait, stop. I love that. That's clever. You know what?

Why not? Yeah. Stand out a little bit. I'm going to be Chelsea from now on. Chelsea. Hello, Chelsea. Thanks for coming on my podcast today. Okay.

Favorite thing about a girl's trip? Oh my gosh. This has just been so lovely. Just like meeting everyone. I didn't know anyone before coming here. I have just loved just hearing your guys' stories and what you guys are doing now. building, like, connections with you guys. It's been so wonderful.

I have looked up to all of you. Oh, my gosh. For years. So this is just incredible. I just love it. We're having so much fun. We are having so much fun. All right.

I have a Mary F. Kill that I'm going to ask you. Okay. Ready? M. G.K. Harry Styles or Justin Timberlake. Wow. Good job.

Wait, that's a good one. Okay. Mary, MGK. Kill Justin Timberlake. What was the other one? Harry Styles. Harry Styles. Harry Sowles.

Okay. All right. I love all of them. She's like Mary M.G. M.G.K. For sure. Respect, Megan. I will never see you a man.

We're twins, but I won't come for him. I love it. Okay, I have a couple questions from fans, and then I'm going to let you go because she's leaving first. He's leaving. Okay. This is from KSRGN Thum. Anything you wish you had known prior to living your life

on TV. Yeah, I wish I knew the kind of men that were going to be on the show. I wish they were, you know, a little more appealing to what I wanted in my life. And it would have been easier to navigate that journey knowing. But obviously, there's no fun in that. That doesn't make good TV. Right. Like, they're like, we're not going to give you everything you want.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. So that would have been nice to know a little bit. But I get it. Mm-hmm. Okay. This is from Stacey Blair, Zero, Zero.

If you are going to date again, what qualities would you look for in a partner? Not a million girlfriends. We'll start with that. You know, honesty, loyalty. Obviously, you know, I want to trust my partner. I want to have fun with my partner. That's my biggest thing. Yeah, I think someone who likes to explore and travel and adventure and just live a good life.

I love it. Thank you so much, Chelsea, for coming on the podcast. It's been amazing to get to know you these past couple days. You too, girl. Tell everybody where they can find you And if you have anything that you want to talk about This is your time. Oh my gosh.

You can find me on Instagram at Chelsea D. Blackwell or TikTok same. Yeah, I just love you. You're incredible. You're my instill. And I love what you're doing. Thank you. All right.

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All right. Up next we have the beautiful sweetheart Abigail Herringer. Hello, hello. How are you? I'm good. Here we go, round two. I know, round two. So last time you were on the podcast, it was in Cabo on our last girl's trip.

So we're doing it two years in a row. I love it. Let's keep it up. We have a lot of updates. Yes. So you were not engaged. I was not the last time. But we were like thinking like it's probably happening soon.

We all knew it was coming. Can you tell us everything about the proposal? It was really sweet. It was our last week in San Diego and we were moving back to Oklahoma that week and I was not expecting it. I knew the engagement was coming because we were shopping for

rains and stuff together but I thought it was going to happen in Oklahoma and then I got a dog and so that pushed up our plans a month and I think Noah was like, okay I'm ready to do it so he talked to Thomas and Becca from our season of Paradise planned a whole thing. It was a beach front in San Diego

top the question and then we drove 28 hours to Oklahoma Oh my gosh, everything looked so beautiful. Thank you. Were you so happy? I was. At that point, I think it was just so much anticipation because we started talking at the beginning of the year and it happened in August.

So from like January to August, I was like, oh my gosh, like my nails. Like they need to be done all the time. Like I need just so many things. So I was like, okay, yes, it finally happened. You're like, yes, I knew this was happening, but like I'm tired of making sure my nails are perfect. Yes, literally. How long have you and Noah have been together now? It'll be three years this July.

Three years. Wow. Did you like expect like whenever you first started this journey of reality TV that you would like find the love of your life? Like did you actually think it would happen or were you just like, let me just try and see? I was very open to it going into Matt season of The Bachelor. I was like the likelihood is well, but I'm open to it and I was ready for a relationship. But it was after Matt season. I think kind of just seeing all the ups and downs, I was like, it would be really hard, I think,

to find someone that wants the same things in line because it just pulls so many different kinds of people. Yeah. And really Noah was just like a diamond in the breath in paradise. Like I really don't think if he was there, I just don't think I would have been compatible with anyone else. So just like the chances that him and I were on the same season. You guys are so cute.

I love you guys together. We love you guys too. On your engagement. Thank you. You're getting married in October, right? Yeah. Yeah. Are there certain things that you're, like, looking forward to more than others about your wedding day?

Like, for me, I always dreamed of the moment, like, whenever I walked down the out to see Jacks see me for the first time. You know, like, one of those, like, special moments. Like, what is your, like, what are you looking forward to the most on your wedding day? I think, honestly, just being married, like, I, I know, you know, some girls are, like, I dreamed of my wedding, going up, everything. And for me, I think I just had a hard time envisioning that until I could, like, see the person that I was marrying and so forth. And so I think now Noah and I are just so into, like, our home renovation. We're such homebodies now.

Like, I'm just excited to be married to him. And obviously, I'm very excited for our wedding day. But we're not planners. So I think right now it's just stressful. So I think a month before the wedding, it'll be like, yes, it's exciting. Do you think that the wedding is? more stressful than the home renovations? Because for people listening,

for people listening that don't know, like they did a whole house renovation. So like for like a lot of people are like, that is the most stressful thing that like a couple can do is a house renovation. And do you think the planning the wedding is more stressful? A hundred percent just because all cost wise. Like weddings are just so expensive.

And no and I have just been doing a lot of the home stuff are like on our own. So we've been saving a lot of money that way. I think financially it hasn't been as stressful as the wedding planning has been. And I think the home stuff too, you don't have to worry about what other people think because it's your house. Right. But the wedding, it's very kind of cater to the guest.

So I'm like, I want to make sure my guests have fun. Like, what should we do? And like, I'm such a people because I'm a people who are there too, but it's your day. It's your day. But you have so many opinions. Right. And I don't know if you felt like this with your wedding. I'm just like, you have so many people looking in.

You're just like almost like nervous. Like what is the reaction going to be? be to like your dress or the decor or whatnot. And I know you're not supposed to care about that, but. But it's a different life also being on a reality TV. Yeah. You know, so it's more like, you know, because you don't have to show everything about your house if you don't want to, you know.

Control what I show. You can control. Yeah. But I know that you guys are going to have a beautiful wedding. Like, we're very excited. I'm so, so, so happy for you. Redoing a house, though. Has that affected your relationship at all?

because I've always heard, like I just said, that it could be very hard. But you seem like it's doing like it's been easy for you. Surprisingly, no, just because I think Noah and I, our love language, is quality time. So the fact that we get to spend that much time together, we really enjoy it. And I think it's mostly Noah's credit of he's very much like, do whatever you want style-wise. Like, he's not very kind of strong-minded of, I want this. want this. Like he has opinions. He's like, oh, I love Moody. I love this. But he really, I think, just kind of lets me take the reign. Love it. So it's a really good balance. And he's like,

I just want to do all like the demo and stuff. And I'm like, perfect. I don't want to do that. So I think it's been working so far. We're only a couple months in. But still like, that supposedly is one of the hardest things in a relationship to go through. I mean, we definitely have and you're doing it, you know, 100%. I mean, we have fights, of course. And but I think we know when to take a step back. We're like, okay, maybe we should. And, shouldn't be working on this right now let's go out to dinner or something like that right oh my gosh so you're like okay let's take a break let's have a date night in between like we can't just only focus on this yes and all the stress and everything yeah or no it just being so tired like i can't you know jump on

another thing okay slow down which that that's great advice to anybody going through it like take some time for yourself right date your husband date your partner your fiancee whatever because that's important yeah life will still happen in the background but the priority should be your partner. If you could change anything about your time on reality TV, what would it be? I mean, I know people say, I don't have regrets, blah, blah, blah.

Like, I definitely do have regrets. Definitely, I think watching my season of Paradise, I, it was the first time, like, watching myself that often navigating a relationship. And I was like, you have so many, like, toxic tendencies that I was falling back into on that show. And it was a learning experience. Yeah.

I just wish that one, I didn't care what people thought. Like, every time I would have a conversation with Noah, I, it's the inner monologue. Yeah. Just wait, how is someone going to taste this? Everything. And I wasn't able to really focus on my relationship with Noah. I think that part.

And then just not really being open. I think I was just like, it's paradise. It's fun. There's no way I'm going to get engaged or marry. Like you didn't expect your outcome. Yeah. And I just really didn't want to get hurt. Yeah.

So I should have just been more open. But you ended up being with the love of your lives. I was supposed to say he was like punching through the walls. That's why I think it worked really well off camera because I could just let all of that go. Yeah. But I wish I couldn't let it go before paradise. Before and like on camera because it's hard.

It is hard. It's very difficult. It's not always easy, you know. Well, we just, Lori and everybody is talking about how you wrote a book. Yes. The deaf girl. Tell me about it. I want to hear everything.

Yeah. So basically it's just the story of my hearing loss. It's going to be my perspective and my mom's perspective. Because I think just coming off the show, it was just a lot of people wanting to hear from my mom and then also myself. I think, you know, some people are like, you're only 29 while you're writing a memoir. And I just want to emphasize, like, it's not that kind of focus.

It's more just what it's like going up with hearing loss from a parent side and a trial size. So my mom and I was just really excited about it. It's definitely a passion project. So, yeah, I mean, we're just excited to start promoting it, everything. Well, congratulations. Thank you. It was a lot of work. I'm sure. And I'm so, so, so happy for you. I think it's going to be absolutely incredible. You're an amazing person. You're such an inspiration. Like, for people who are dealing with things that you are, like, could you like imagine? That is amazing. Thank you. Like they're looking up to you and being like, I can do this. I can, you know. That means a lot coming from you. I think that's absolutely beautiful. And I'm so happy for you. And I cannot wait to read your book. You better send me one. I will be promoting it. Maybe we can have a book. launch at Jackson. I know.

You're being talking about that. I was like, if people show up, we'll do shots with them, we'll celebrate the heck out of it. I am so down. If you could be on any reality show, what would it be? The last year I said Band of Pup rules. I was like, oh, I just want to be like in the background, but then it got really crazy. I was like, that's not the show for me. You're like, stand them all.

Yeah, I'm going to stay far away from that. I was thinking maybe like traitors. Yeah. I feel like that's a really hot one said traders. Okay. Yeah. I wouldn't be good at it, but I would just be like, I want to know what it would be the reason that I slip up.

Right, right. Because I'm not strategic, anything. I'm like, could I just fly under the radar? Because I'm kind of more quiet. Like, that could be my strategy or would I get called out the first day by like a real housewife? And I'm like, okay, I was so scared. I want to go hold now. But a real housewife.

I feel like they are looking so good at the show because they're so like confrontational. Yes. And I'm not confrontational at all. Well, I also like, it's the thing about like traders and those. kind of shows is they're bringing people from different backgrounds of reality TV. So like people on Bravo are a lot different than people on The Bachelor or, you know what I mean? Because. But you guys have more experience of like reading people and like calling people out.

Whereas for me, it's like everything's so kind of staged and produced. I've never had to like lead anything on my own. So it was just me like throwing me in the deep. And I'm like, okay, I have to figure this out for myself. Throwing me in the deep end. But still, stepping out of your comfort zone. is so like exonerating. Do you think you could do it?

I mean, I would be so nervous, but like whenever you actually do it, like, I'd be too nice. I'm one of those people though who like, I will like put like back out of things or whatever, but once I actually do it, I'm like so happy I did it. You know what I mean?

Oh, 100%. Yeah. It's a better accomplishment, I feel like you do a show like that then. Right. I think it would be so cool. Okay. Favorite thing about a girl's trip?

Favorite thing? Okay. It's so dumb. But anytime I travel with Noah, guys don't realize how mona teach girls to get ready. And like, we want to do pictures and stuff. So I just never get time to like do my kind of calm down, get ready, everything. But like on this trip, Serena and I are like, let's go in the bathroom. Let's just play some music.

Chill. Get ready. And I was telling her, I enjoy getting ready more than anything. Like, see, I think it's so fun. I'm like putting on Little Wayne. I'm like dancing in the bathroom. I'm like, she lit me like a lollipop. Yes.

And like, no one's great to travel with. But no, it's just like, I want to do this. I want to do that. I'm like, oh, wait, can I get ready first? Like, can I, like, chill? No. That's my favorite part for sure. I agree with that because whenever it's me and Jacks, like, he can get ready in two seconds.

And then I'm like, I have the longest hair. I have, like, all this things I have to do. Like, I have a routine. So, like, whenever somebody's pressuring you, like, get ready now or do this fast. I'm like, oh. Wait, so you have to shower. Okay, so you need 10 minutes. I'm like, 10 minutes to let the water warm up.

We are women. like I'm sorry. Absolutely not. This is going to be a whole thing. Oh, and obviously, we're all just on the same page of like a mix-up chill and then also. It's been so fun. It's been absolutely so fun. Okay, you ready for your F.

Mary Kill? I'm nervous for this one. I'm really nervous. All right. Jesse Lally. Wait, who? So you're a Valley watcher, right? Yes.

You watch the Valley. I'm like a visual person. Okay. So. Can you show me a picture? Jesse Lally. He's a. married to Michelle.

Yes. Okay? He's been kind of like the Jacks kind of. I saw him. Danny, who's married to Nia with the twins and that. Yes. Or Jason who's married to Janet. Okay.

So I read Jason. Yeah, Jason's sweet. Jason is very sweet. You're right, I'd marry Jason. Okay, tell me the names again. Jason. Jesse and Danny. Danny.

Okay. I would probably marry Danny. Jason. I don't let me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Jesse. It's okay. I've always seen the first three episodes, so maybe that'll change, but...

No, it won't change. I thought a preview for the fourth episode, so I don't think it'll change. No, it won't change. But still, I love it. Okay, a couple questions from the fans before I let you go. This is from Ab Swims. How's the... We already talked about this a little bit, but you can, like, talk about a little bit more if you want to.

How's the Houseflip going and has it saved you money in the long run? Like doing it ourselves? Yes, doing it yourself. A thousand percent. It is insane how much just like the labor costs. So like having Noah who's hansy, I swear we're saving like 50 percent. Wow. People pay.

So marry somebody who knows construction people. It pays off. It pays off. It will work out in the long run. So this is one of my favorite questions. I'm repeating it to everybody. This is from Life of Katia, your favorite resort drink. Favorite resort drain peanut, peanut, all the way.

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