When Reality Hits with Jax and Brittany - REWIND: The Return of Zack Wickham!

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Brittany's bestie and Valley star ZACK WICKHAM swings by to chat about all the latest! Originally aired: 09/27/24Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Leesa: Go to Leesa.com for 20% off PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code REALITYHITS, exclusive for my listeners.Progressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust ProgressiveSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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boo-boo. I was going to say, you better not say any other name. Fellow cast member of the Valley. Full-time cast member, obviously. Yes. Yes. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. We just want to just have a fun time and let you guys laugh at all of our craziness. Yeah, because we're actually very, very funny together. We're the best.

We're the funniest. You really are. On the way here today, because we were in WeHo for a little special upcoming project that I'm so excited about. Can't talk about it yet. Sorry, but we were in Weeho. So we were coming over the canyon and. And Brittany was getting to experience. what I have to experience every time I come and visit them in stop and go traffic.

Yeah, up a canyon, by the way. Up a canyon. Like up a big hill. Just literally, when you think of the path to narnia, think of weho to the valley or vice versa. That's literally what it is. So basically, you're going to go through a bunch of coats and then magically you appear. Yeah, I'm sure there's bunches of closets around in those. mansions going up the hill and down.

Oh my gosh. Well, anywho, somebody bumped into us. Yeah. While I was dead stopped, there was, for at least a few minutes, too. It wasn't like it was new and... We had not moved for a hot minute. And then all of a sudden we get hit. And my favorite thing is Brittany goes, oh, my God, they just hit you.

And I was like, uh-huh, sure. I was like, it's fine. Just completely acting like there was no big deal. I was like, they just hit you. like we bumped forward and everything. It was not a big deal. It wasn't a big wreck or anything like that. But still, I was like, are we not going to pull over?

We're not going to go on the side of the road? Are we allowed to talk about this? Are you going to get trouble for a hit and run? Like, what's happening? Literally like, where was, there was no running. No. I was literally sitting there. Waved at the guy.

I was like, yeah, I know. You hit me. It's fine. Like just my, and my car's not bad by any means, you know, and it doesn't have dents all over it. But my bumper, you know, there have been people that have hit me in traffic before and it's like if I'm going to pull over every time someone hits me I'm never going to get anywhere in LA thing to say you know what we didn't even whenever we got out of the car we didn't

look at it oh shit we didn't I didn't even look at it when we got out of the car I will look at it I will look at it when I leave and send you a picture and you can you can update something at the very end of the podcast being like oh shit there's no bumper no but like if it was me I would have pulled over and been like nervous or complete nervous wreck like oh my gosh oh my gosh even though you were the one that got hit but did you even look at the guy was a guy behind us a girl behind us no i literally didn't even mean i just waved i just went okay you know the backhand wave i just went uh hi okay just acknowledging you don't have to get out of your car please stay and and let me make this clear because this is not a hit and run situation don't need people

coming after that we were on the canyon so you're they followed behind us for like another 15 minutes at least. At least. If they wanted me to pull over because they hit me, they would have. Yeah, exactly. Just going up the canyon slowly. You know, you're like stop and go, stop and go the entire way. You know, people think that like I'm a crazy driver, but honestly, in L.A., you have to be defensive and offensive with your driving skills. Otherwise, you will get nowhere. Well, I freaking hate driving L.A. That's been very clear. I'm well aware. I don't think you've ever driven me anywhere. I drive you, like if we're together, I'm driving you or you're Ubering or I hate it. And I barely ever drive.

I had my first fender bender bender in L.A. Your first fender bender ever? In L.A. Well, I've been here for 10 years. I've never had any kind of. I was like, I don't think that's true. I've had fender benders before, but never in L.A. So I had my very first one last week.

And I was so nervous. It was on the 405 stop and go traffic. That's like a six lanes. You know, it's like very. Oh my God. You had it on the 405. Yes. So we pulled over.

It was my fault. Like it was so slow. And I barely tapped him. But where I had a Jeep and he had like, I forget what kind of car he had. It was like a sedan type car. So he like my little bumper like where jeeps had these little like lights that come out in front of him. It put like a perfect little hole right there. So it didn't do nothing to my car.

And I was like, oh my God. And I was shaking because I was just like so terrified. You're on the side of this really scary. highway and at first he was like a little upset he was like oh man he hit me and then like he he like once i go down and i was just like i'm so sorry i'm so sorry here's my information here's everything you need like that was completely my fault which it was my fault like it just happened so fast you know i'm so many people this happens but got a million things going on and it just like i barely felt like i tapped him but still but it was so scary i mean i was shaking and and he

noticed how nervous i was and i think that's why he was like it's okay it's okay is they keep in like stop shaking it's okay i'm not mad i know it was an accident and i was like oh thank you i was like i'm so sorry so that was my like a week ago experience and i have not felt that way in forever so whenever you got tapped today i was like oh you just had PTSD yeah i was like are we supposed to pull over aren't we supposed to like what are we supposed to do like do we need to call the cops like what's going on and i like how you're like do you have insurance i was like yes i have insurance I was like, why are we upset? Of course.

My parents pay for my insurance. Of course I have insurance. No, I'm just kidding. No, that was one stipulation. They were like, we're cutting you off from paying for your car insurance. And I was like, wait, what? You're like, hold on. I mean, it wasn't until I was like 30 something, but I was very mad when they did that.

But no, I do have insurance. No, I know. But still, I was like, why are you? And you're like, what are we doing? You're like, I've been hit before. Like, it's not going to make any difference back there. Like, it just was. I'll pop it out because the thing.

is I think as a society we're like so crazy about things being absolutely perfect or that you know what I mean. Whereas like I see it as like my luggage. I like seeing little scratches and whatever because it's like, oh, I've been places. I've done things. Yeah. Now do I want like my bumper to be completely ripped off? Absolutely not. But you know, if it's just a little scratch here, a little bump there, like am I really going to take the time? I don't have the time to even do that in L.A. Yeah. You know?

Just got to like roll with it, I guess, a little bit. He's got to roll with it. Well, wait. So wait. Mine, I was just like, it was too much. There was people everywhere. I was like, oh, we're getting over. We're going.

And it was my complete fault. Well, I wish that I could say this was my first, like, little tap or whatever, you know, wreck in L.A. But love tap. A little, little love tap. But, no, this is that, this actually, I've never actually been in another wreck, except when my car was fully totaled. and I've only had that once and that was in LA

where a car just sideswiped to me as I was turning and my Honda accord they just completely destroyed and destroyed their car too it was insane. Oh yeah. But I was fine. Yeah.

Carrecks are scary. So I did get out and gave my insurance that time. You're like that time I did. But you just wave to the guy and we're like, it's okay. I know you hit me. fine. Don't worry about it. I feel like some of those things in LA are so like such LA things because until you live here, you don't understand. You just like can't we have no time to do anything.

Everything takes so much effort and hours to do. So like if you're going to hit my, you know what? It's fine. Like I'm now if I hit them and and they kept going, okay, cool, like I did, cool. But if they had gotten out, I would have been like, okay, whatever. Of course, of course. Yeah. Just want to state that in case anyone wants to like try to be like, oh, he always hits and runs. No, that's not what we're saying here. Not at all.

We were completely stopped. But yeah, I just love that you were like, it's okay. Yeah, you were, no, you were, you were not like, oh my God, that's so bad. You were like, wait, what? I'm confused. Wait, shouldn't you pull over? You were having a mental breakdown. You had PTSD from your, now I know why.

Now I see. Just from a week before. But that was my fault. This one wasn't your fault. And now we're going to go outside and look and be like, oh, gosh. Oh, I know. And now, like, watch my bumper completely have, like, a crack down the middle of it. Why didn't we check?

But it was a PT cruiser. Like, if it was a Jeep, I would have been, like, aw shit. Like, just like, when you get hit by a Jeep, a Hummer, any of those, like, like, a big SUV, bulky or, like, strong car. But, like, no, PT Cruiser, that's, like, getting hit by IKEA. Like, it's going to hurt them more than you. Yeah, which is exactly what happened. But still, it's like, what's our luck? I know, right?

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We're going to go into some questions that we're sent in because I think it'll be hilarious and so good to go back into some fun time. Unfortunately, we can't talk about too much that's going on right now. Yeah. I mean, it does. I think it's good, though. I'm glad that we don't do that, though. You know what I mean?

Because I do want, like, people to actually get to see it through the lens of the show. Yeah, for sure. Versus us, like, giving a thousand details, them already knowing who's going to want to watch after that? You know what I mean? It kind of like, we like to keep you guys guessing and give you a little mystery and, you know, give you a reason to watch us. You think you know, but you have no idea. You have no idea. Welcome to the Valley, bitches.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. First question is from T. Oh, dear Lord. What did Tom ask? A.k.a. Tom Schwartz. He just said, what would Zach be doing if he never moved to L.A.? Hybrid with L.Hart.

Oh, my God. What would you be doing if you never moved to L.A.? Question from Thomas. Let's see. Well, what was I doing before? I was working. So Louisville is a great city, which is where I'm from. And but the problem is there's not a lot of creative jobs.

And they don't like pay that well. So like me being in social media and communications and PR, the like roof of what you can achieve is not, like there's not that many big jobs there. But I was working at a really great company called Humana, full time as a communication analyst, and working my way up. So I guess I'd be, oh, I don't even want to, it hurts. It actually, I just got, I just got like nervous and like my stomach started hurting to think that like, I, I could be going back there. Oh, but I mean, it was a great job, but I guess I'd just be working my way up the corporate ladder. Oh, God, I could never.

I'm not a corporate ladder type person. No. No. I don't think that would have lasted forever. You would have been, something would have changed no matter what. Oh, and the guy I was dating at the time was into mudden or off-roading, whatever you want to, whatever it's whatever, whoever wants to call it. We call it mudden. and I probably would have stayed with him because we were I was bored and we were together and

like there was nothing else there. So I guess I'd be mudden and working my way up the corporate ladder and probably not as happy as I am. But I love Louisville. Louisville's great. Oh, of course. We're Kentucky through and through and through through. Through and through.

It's so funny. You're like, I would have a boyfriend that takes me muddened and then I would be. Yeah, we used to cook. We used to cook our lunches, like when we would do this on his radiator. We put our lunches on, strap them on, do the, you know, the whatever, and then pull our lunch off of the radiator. And if you know me, which I guess, you know, listeners here, you're going to learn a little tidbit. That is not what I do. No, Zach's not Kentucky like I'm Kentucky.

Well, listen. Let's make that clear. Well, let's also make this clear. I can crawdad. I can create. I go to the crick. I can fish better than anybody. Like, I did my time.

So I know how to do this shit. I just don't want to. He's done with it now. I'm done. I did it. And I'm good. I'm moving on. Next chapter.

Now he's an L.A. boy. Yeah. Weho boy through and through. City boy. So, yeah. But still, I love it. Well, wait. I'm going to turn that question back on you, though.

What would you be doing if you hadn't missed? I mean, I was, what would you be doing if you had, you know, met Jacks to, like, pull you out here because yeah, you could have ended up in Vegas with our, you know, our friend Kara. Who knows? Who knows? I could have went back to school, worked with kids, like, always wanted. But I was also, like, having fun and living, you know, your bartending. I was bartending. And I was, you know, I was working at 10 roof, which was so fun. And Hooters. You were making so much money. It was just such a fun lifestyle. But I was also so. much younger. So eventually you're always going to grow out of that stuff. So I would have either went back to school or I would have gotten to like real estate or something. I feel like I could see myself doing that. I love home. Like I love interior design. I love party party planning. Maybe I'd be a party planner. I think you would have gone to like real it. You would have done,

you're like, I'm good. But then you would have got hired by realtors to do interior design. Are they gone back to school for that? Yeah. I think that's your calling. Interior design and like party planning. Yeah, that's your thing. You love that. I still love that. I can still do that one day. Like, I could still go into that someday.

Yeah, absolutely. Like, it's so great and it's so fun. I enjoy it. I'm happy. But you are very good at it. You're so good at the small details. And what, like, when you're putting together an entire party or something to that person's personality, like you just get everything down to the smallest detail, which is, I

think, the most important. Thank you. Yeah, I really love doing all that stuff. So maybe something like that. But either way, our lives turned out how I never would have imagined. I'm pretty sure I imagined that I was, I did, that I was going to be where I am. No, I'm just kidding. Not at all.

Not at all. Did I imagine being in L.A. like this on a show called The Valley with my best friends. I know. It's awesome. Like, we're very lucky in many, many ways. So blessed. Yeah. But still, just so many crazy things that get.

us here like if I want to met Jackson Vegas. I wouldn't live in LA. If you wouldn't have thought to book a last minute ticket to go visit your best friend, Kara, yeah, our friend Kara. And then go, by the way, the gold spike or golden spike or whatever it's called, that ain't even. It's in old Vegas.

That ain't even like one of the clubs you would have gone to at that time. Yeah, yeah. Like that was just like random that you ended up at that club. And you didn't know who they were. it was Kara that know who Katie was. Yeah, exactly. And wanted to talk to Katie. Like, the things that had to fall into place.

And then, and still the people that still act like that, it's a liar that I check. Like, I'm like, you guys. Oh, absolutely. I'm just like, gosh. Well, and now they're saying that, um, that I followed you. That like, I, I was like, ooh, let me grab. Guys, like, for real, I was already moving to either New York or L.A. Yeah.

Brittany made it a little bit easier, but I literally was. already moving before she even moved. And once he came here and, like, to visit, he was, I think you visited New York and L.A. Yeah, at the same time. And he visited me and stayed with me. He helped take care of me. This was the time that I had my boobs done, guys. So if you watch Barter Pump Rules, this was that time frame that long ago.

Like, Zach was there while I was healing. Yeah. He just wasn't filmed on the show. Yeah, because were you filming at that time? Yeah. Oh, okay. You were still filming. Yeah.

But I was staying home. And they were, like, filming like, beach days and different things. Like, remember he wasn't even there. already. Like, you already had to go film a scene that was, like, brand new out of surgery. Couldn't even, like, barely moved. So you came over and, like, took care of me. It's so crazy to think about, like, and also in my time hop that, I don't know, do you have the time hop? Oh my God, I used to have it. I am, like, it started popping up too many, like, weird things for my past. Like, I used to love time hop. And then whenever I broke up with my ex

and got with Jacks, it started, like, showing old photos of him. So then I was like, okay, I got delete it. Then I get it again. And then now you're breaking up again. And I'm like, you're like, you're like, no, got to. I actually went through and I figured out there's this way. Because you know, whenever on your phone, if you have an iPhone, it shows like people. And you can go through and like you can click on the face because it has like these certain faces that if they're in a lot of your photos. And you can make it to where they don't bring up those photos anymore. Yeah, I did know that. That is actually a good thing to say to people because I think a lot of people don't know that. Okay. If you don't know that, you can definitely do that on your iPhone. Like if you go through a

break up. Like, I don't want to delete every single photo of Jacks out of my phone. I want Cruz to be able to look at things. Well, number one, that's also impossible. No, it's impossible. It's 10 years of my life. Like, that actually happened. I never wanted to erase what happened. And I always want Cruz to be able to look at photos and whatever. And I'm always going to have that stuff. But whenever I'm mad and angry, I don't want my freaking iPhone to be like, hey, look at this montage. I just like, memories. I don't feel like memories in love from three years ago. And it's like, only me and Jack's just like, and it's like, do do, do. Like, really. Like sweet music.

Really sweet music in the background is all these photos of us like kissing or like smiling or like open mouth laughing. Like no. So I was like, how do I do that? And I forget who told me, but somebody was like, girl, you can go in there and actually like not remove his photos, but remove that particular face from face from your people that are on your photos. So it won't show it to you.

Yeah. And it'll stop suggesting. Yeah, it'll stop suggesting photos. It'll stop saying it won't be like. this day three years ago and be a photo of like jack's naked in my bathroom or something right exactly it's like you don't want that nobody wants that it'll be just like whatever yeah no that is actually that's the one thing about time hop that i i don't know if they have that feature i don't think they do though but every once i'm like oh god and like i'll have to like scroll real fast through it because

i'm like oh but anytime stuff like with us pops up from like our beginning of our journey here i just think of like how crazy the past eight and a half and then for you nine years have been yeah and the fact that we're still like we're thriving and like do it's just it's a blessing and it's but it's just also so surreal and so crazy yeah it is it just is when reality hits is brought to you by progressive insurance do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash progressive makes it easy just draw in some details about yourself and see if you're eligible to save money when you bundle your home and auto policies. The process only takes minutes and it can mean hundreds more in your pocket.

Visit progressive.com after this episode to see if you could save. Progressive Casually Insurance Company and Affiliates, potential savings will vary, not available in all states. I know we talked about it. Zach's been on the podcast before, but I still had a lot of people writing in about how Zach and I met. So do you want to tell it this time? I think I told it last time. Wait, did you tell it last time? Yeah, we talked about, well, I met you through. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. I'm dead. Guys, it's, we don't need anybody doing research or looking at people's names or whatever, because that's not what we're here for. But, yeah, I will, I'll do it this time then. Oh, goodness. So, Brittany and this other person were best friends in college, and that person happened to be from Louisville and was home for the weekend or whatever and I met him at a club.

We started dating and then he introduced me to his best friend, Brittany, which I thought after the first time we met, he said that Brittany said, you hold on to him. He's the only one that like he's a good person and he can actually handle you like blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But now I'm like, whoa. You're like, no, why we ever do? me together. But yeah, but then Brittany and, well, we broke up, obviously. And then all three,

like, we all stayed friends. Like, yeah. We didn't have a bad breakup or anything. Um, but then me and Brittany, yeah, just always stayed friends. And that's how we first met. Uh, and I guess I was right out of college. I think I just graduated. Yeah. And him and I cheered together at EKU. So we, like, had known each other through cheerleading and stuff. And then you guys started dating and then I met You. Yeah. And it's like, thank God for that. Like, you know, some people bring other people into your lives and they weren't the, you thought that maybe that person was going to stay in.

But then they introduced you to somebody and you're like, oh, that's why they were here. Yeah. Like, everybody. Like, that's why I put up with all their bullshit because I was going to meet this person, which is so much better. It's crazy. Like, that's what we were talking about earlier, even with like the Vegas stuff. Like, everything happens for a reason. You meet certain people in your life, like, for a reason.

I truly believe that. Oh, 1,000 percent. Like, yeah. And it's crazy. This one cracked me out. This is from Laura 070. Is he your new boyfriend? Okay.

I don't know. I'm, okay. So also, can we go to the fact that I posted? That's what I was, that's why I had to put it on there. So guys, I posted a photo of me and Brittany from Hawaii. Now, I just assumed that because we've now done one season of the Valley and then, you know, like I'm on your all social media. Even before the Valley, you're always on online.

I'm always on your all social media. Like, I don't think anyone's questioning that I'm anyone's, I've been around. Yeah. So, like, I don't understand when people are like, oh, is that your new guy? Just, number one, just look at me, please. Like, just do a little scroll. And also, it was my post, not yours. So if they just scrolled one, they would see me and my boyfriend. So I'm like, guys, just one scroll.

That's all I'm asking. Or do some research. Or just read the other comments that say, oh, my God. you know, like you and your best friend look great instead of, oh my God, who's this? Why did you move on so fast? And then like, I'm not going to lie, though, they're, whoever it is, I didn't look at the screen names, but they've gotten in a fight on that picture. And they have basically got the engagement up on it so much because the comment, I think they're at like 300 comments back and forth on one comment. They're fighting with each other? Yes, back and forth. About your, you being my boyfriend. Yes, except now they're like, because

one of them's like, that was stupid. Why didn't you look? And then she's like, well, I can say whatever I want. And then it just like transpired into this. I'm actually eating popcorn, reading this like it's a fucking soap opera. Like, I'm like, thank you for my entertainment today and pushing my photo out there way more than it would. Please, to anybody out there, feel free to fight with people on my comments because that only helps. Oh, my God.

That is hilarious. See, I'm so the opposite. I'm like, if you're being mean, I'm going to, I want to delete it. Well, they weren't being, they weren't being like overly mean. They were like, you know, whatever. So it was like entertaining. If people are like mean, mean, yeah, I'm obviously, yeah, like, no, no. I'm going to delete it gone.

Yeah, if it's entertaining and funny, it's, yeah, I'll leave some things too. Because people will go back at it and it's just like, it's even better. And well, also, I've been doing this. Because anything I could think of to say, you know. Oh, I don't want to spoil a question for you. But did you, I'll just spoil it if you even got it. But like, did anybody ask about my hair? There was definitely some about your hair.

Of course. But I think it's, I think that's going down a lot. It's gone down. Thank God. Like, guys, I fixed it. Okay. Heard America loud and clear. Okay.

Her jaw. I've been number one, I've heard it my entire life, but I really heard it magnified. Your hair looks great now. Well, listen. It still looked great then. But let me put it this way. I'm lazy. Okay.

I don't, you know, it takes a lot to like push it up. It's also like it is thick and whatever. So it doesn't. doesn't always want to do what, like, would look good. So I'm just lazy and I just leave it down and it's easier. Okay, America, I'm not lazy anymore. Okay, we fixed that for season two for you. Okay?

So just no. And also. Season two, no more Lego head. No more Lego. But even though I'm not going to lie, I have very much become very happy with the Lego nickname. Like, I am down for being Lego for the rest of my life. I think that's actually cool.

You were saying the other day, Zach was like, we have to go to Lego World and take a million different photos of me in different places. Lego land. I was like, hell yes.

I was like, we are going and doing that. And then also, I will say I'm a little offended that not one fan has sent me like a, a Lego of me. Like,

not one fan has thought, you know what? I'm going to make a Lego of him. And when I'm kind of offended, I'm not going to lie. So anybody that wants to do that, Please do that. Oh my God.

That's hilarious. Or if you work for Lego, Zach would love his own. Yeah. Can I please have a sponsorship? Like, there is nobody that is called Lego more than me. Not even an actual Lego. Oh, gosh. Those people that make all those videos and then it's like all of a sudden a really little Lego instead of a Barbie.

It's Opel. Opal something, yeah. And then whenever they do me, I'm always drunk and then I have like two glasses on. The two glasses. I'm not going to lie. I think it's funny. I don't care. The two glasses.

this fucking destroyed my life. It was so good. Because I know why you did it because you have whatever. You guys, let me let me say something. I am very, I cannot see. I'm not blind by any means, but I have to wear contacts 24-7s. Yeah, I'm close. Like I'm negative like six in both eyes.

If you know anything about eyes, you know that's bad. Like I can't drop. I can't do anything. Can see Zach's thing right across from me if I didn't have my contacts in right now. Wouldn't be able to tell who he was. and I was having like a weird eye infection or something during that. So I couldn't wear my contact. Well, it's called, well, okay, we won't make fun of, okay.

Little phone jacks. Just had to say it, whatever. It's in the past. Oh, my gosh. But I saw how to wear my glasses. So whenever you're out on that bright boat, and I was like, okay, no, I'm still going to put my sunglasses on over my glasses.

Because if I would have just worn my sunglasses, I would have a headache in two minutes because I can't see. Well, and the other thing is you also have, extreme, extreme motion sickness. Yeah, yeah. And so that actually helps like dull your senses. Yeah, so can you imagine me being on a boat without wearing my glasses or my contacts? I would be sick as a dog.

I already was getting sick. But also that probably had something to do with why I was sick that day too. Yeah, well. Because I was on a boat and because I did, I had to wear my glasses. It's different. Like whenever you have good eyes, so you wouldn't know. Yeah, I wouldn't know. Sorry.

contact and then you switch to glasses. Like as I take them out, obviously, let my eyes breathe. But it's a different, like, like, it takes your eyes a second to refocus. Because you think the lens is like all the way on your eye and then glasses. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So it, like, takes a second to, like, for your eyes in your brain and stuff to, like, get used to it every single time. So then I get a little, like, woozy.

It's a, people were like, uh, Britney, they make prescription sunglasses. Duh. Well, duh, she knows that. But also, maybe they weren't as cute as the little. one she had. And also I wasn't prepared. I didn't expect that I wasn't going to be able to wear my contacts. Like it was a last minute thing. Yes, now I definitely, I still still to this day, though, I can't even lie. I still have not gotten prescription sunglasses. But then that's a whole another thing because then you have to bring your glass. Well, I guess I'm bringing my glasses and my

sunglasses anyway because I'm wearing them both at the same time. Yeah, I was like, I was like, don't digging yourself a hole, Brittany. I'm digging myself a hole. Basically, I have no excuse. You have no excuse. You're lazy like I am. I'm lazy with my hair. You're lazy with your glasses, okay? Sorry, we're lazy America. I need to get sunglasses made with prescription for sure. That's going to be my next thing.

I need new actual glasses anyway. So like a glasses, sunglasses, prescription, Dr. Day is coming up. Well, maybe Benji can help you. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I think of it like friends, like how Monica meets the sexy. Oh, yeah.

Is there a sexy doctor around? Maybe we just need to start making you eye appointments all over the city. But especially in like Beverly Hills. Let's keep it to that. You know, let's keep, you know, or WeHo because I want you back over the hills. Oh my gosh. hilarious. Hey guys.

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podcasts. And let's spiral together. So since you brought up Benji a couple of times, this is from Stephanie dot Unger. How did he meet his boyfriend? Well, I am so glad you asked Stephanie. It's actually, I think it's hilarious. So it was at the very end of filming a year ago. Well, year ago. Yeah. So last season at the very end. Um, and we met on Grindr.

And we, you know, but um, badump, and then I was like, oh my God, you're really cool. Like we were like,

but dump. I was like, okay, we're going to keep it, you know, slightly PG for your podcast. Um, and,

you know, sometimes you hit it off with people and sometimes you don't. Then sometimes it's like, okay, this was great. Bye. But we were having, like, we had good conversation leading up to it. And he was only in town for like one or two more days.

And he was standing at a youth hostel. And I was like, hey, why don't you just pack up your stuff and I'll just bring you back to my apartment? And you can just stay for the next two days through the weekend. And then, you know, we can just chill. And he was like, yeah, that's cool. I was like, but I just have to do something, which I had to go film. But I didn't want to be like weird and be like, oh, I have to go film. So I was just like, I have to go somewhere.

So I'll just drop you off. You pack up and then I'll come grab you. So when I came back after filming, I came and grabbed him. I totally forgot that it was Rachel O'Brien, our friends last night, and she's staying with Kristen. So I was like, hey, I still want to hang out with you, but I can't miss my friends last night in town. So I'm going to need you to pretend that we've been like friends for at least a year and that you know me like really well and, you know, that we did not. not just meet on Grindr today. And he was like, okay. Then we went, had a great night. He met Kristen and Rachel and Luke and everybody. And it was like so much fun. And then yeah, then we just ended up starting dating slowly. And then I think it was like seven, it wasn't until like seven months later that I was talking to Kristen that was like, oh yeah, no, I'm, I met Benji that night. And she was like, what? I was like, yeah, I basically brought someone from Grindr over to your house Day one. And we would have been so pissed about something like that normally.

I know, but they got it worked out. It was seven months later. Otherwise, I would have taken it into the grave and y'all would have never known. I would have been like down the road like, what happened to that binging guy that you've known for years? And I'd be like, oh, yeah, so weird. He, like, moved to Europe or something. I don't know. But you guys are doing good and still going strong.

Yeah, it's amazing. Oh, love it. I love it. This is from anake. Dot Gals. Sorry if I'm messing up names. G-A-U-V. Zach, what is your favorite thing about living in L.A.?

Oh, I thought they were going to say, what's your favorite thing about Brittany? And I was going to say that she's best friends with me. No, I'm just kidding. What is my favorite thing about living in L.A.? That is a tough one, because there are a lot of negatives. But, like, you know, it's like it's the daily things that get me, like the traffic, the where can you park. It's hard to like go just to the grocery, excuse me, or gym.

Yeah. Because it's just so much effort. There's a lot of effort that it takes to live in L.A. But once you get- Like getting to one place could take anywhere from an hour to, you just never know. You just never know. It could be 10 minutes. It could be 45 minutes.

Because it is just that unpredictable. Yeah. And in that regard, it took me. a long time to like get my bearings here. But once I did, I mean, I love LA. There's always something to do. Yeah. There's always something going on, whether it's the day or the night, there's always like just

so many different types of things to do as well. Yeah. And when you meet the right type of people, because like not everybody's great here, I'll, I can admit that. But when you do meet, there are so many good people here. that have come from all over. And like, you just kind of like form your own little family here. And it's just that almost becomes the best part of L.A.

is like your L.A. family, which is your family. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that. What about you, though? What's your favorite part about living in L.A.? Oh, I mean, I love the weather. I love, like, the weather's always just amazing here.

Which is weird because I actually hate the weather. And everybody's always like, why do you live in L.A. then? Because I don't like the sun. And I prefer it to be like, like, colding or like cooler. I like it to be cold inside, but I like the weather here because it's like, you know, we go through that gloom. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like the gray and all that stuff. Especially from Kentucky. Yeah. We have a little bit of that here, but it's not so bad as it is like in other places, obviously. We have June gloom, but by like 3 p.m. It burns off or whatever.

And then it's like fine. Yeah. And there's some, like you said, there's just so much different things to do. So many different types of people. I've learned so much about different cultures and different. just different everything living here and I love that and I love for crews to be able to grow up and like see all these you know communities coming together and stuff that you might not see in other places I think that's like super important I definitely agree with that so I love that part of

LA and um yeah just like the people you can meet the opportunities that you have like there's just things that I never imagine that I would ever do that I got to do living here well and that's the that's the when I was talking about you know what what would I be doing if I still lived, you know, if I never moved out here. There's no, like the opportunity, I wouldn't have like, you know, I've been to Russia randomly. Yeah. You know, I've been around the world.

I've done things and worked on projects that I never would have had the opportunity to do with my proximity, not being in L.A. Yeah. So there's a lot of like really cool things here. Yeah. But there's obviously, you know, ups and downs no matter where you live. I still, I love Kentucky so much. I always.

Yeah, but then, you know, we also get bored. Yeah. Love it here too, though. This is from Cassandra Clippert. I love you both so much. What's the hardest thing, Zach, about being a new celebrity and juggling a regular life. A new celebrity. Oh, my God.

Okay. Let's use that term loosely. But you are new to this world still. Oh, no. You're one season in, but still, like, there's a lot changing for you right now. And it's things are constantly changing for me too, but I know what it's like to be the new one. Yeah. So how do you feel?

How are you dealing with it all? Yeah. Like it's it's kind of surreal because like I've always been around all of you since like moving here. So I'm and and then you know my past jobs. I've been around celebrities where I'm just like kind of in that circle or sphere. So I'm around it. But I'm always right like, you know, technically right outside it.

Nobody's asking for my picture. Nobody's at, you know, whatever. I'm always the person grabbing the photo. Be like, oh, I'll take that for you. And then kind of, you know, just being the other, like the helpful friends in those moments or whatever. And it's crazy because even at like the bar a few times, I'll be like, oh, I'll take it.

And they'll be like, no, we want you in the photo. What are you talking about? I'm like, oh, sorry. Like, it's just kind of surreal. Yeah. But it's really, I will say that it is very humbling and amazing. that people responded the way they have to me and makes me feel very, like, good about myself and very validated that I knew I was funny.

And now America does too. Your one-liners are great. And if anybody thinks that producers or anybody came up with that shit besides me, you're crazy. That's how I talk. And Brittany will tell you. Yeah. I mean, you've already been saying some funny things since you've been on the podcast. So, yeah.

okay, this is a good question. This is from Carla Gator Post. I feel like I'm always messing up people's nights. I'm so sorry. How is Brittany, Kentucky different from Brittany in L.A.? Okay. You know what's so crazy is I was about to say, I was about to add a caveat to the previous question

where it's like about, you know, newly being famous or whatever celebrity. And I was going to say, I don't think that I'm ever going to be any different than I was before than I am now than I was season one versus season two or anything. I don't think I'm changing. I don't think I have changed or anything. And that is so funny that she's asking, well, what's the difference?

The only difference is maybe you'll like go to the grocery store with sweats on and you know what I mean? Or like actually go to the grocery store instead of because we don't have postmates for groceries out there. So that's the only difference. Otherwise, you're the same here as you are there and as you always happen. So you're saying in Kentucky, I'll actually go to the grocery store, but here I get my groceries delivered. I mean, that's kind of, yeah, like that's, you know, you, you'll definitely be a lot more lazy here because it's easier to be. Or like, you know, there's just like, you know, those type of things. Yeah, yeah, of course.

But like, if they're at, because I think what she's. You can even get a pizza delivered to the farm in Kentucky. It's too far out. Well, thank God I'm not in your cut. Everybody is always like, how are they friends from Kentucky? They don't have the same accent. And it's like she's from much further down in Kentucky. Yeah, we've been in college years where all kinds of people made.

And Louisville is like a big city and has more of my accent, which is more neutral than it is. Yeah. From the cut. From the holler. From the holler. But yeah, like that's the thing about you is you've never changed. You're always like you. the only changes I've seen are the positive ones where you've gotten stronger in yourself.

Thank you. But other than that, like, you are the same person, which is why I think we thrive so well together as best friends because we're never, nothing's ever going to change us. Yeah. And who we are. Heck no. We're not going to be fake. Uh-uh. Kentucky.

Let's go. Oh, my gosh. Is this where we do to go big blue cheer? go go this is from tamika warner favorite trait of zacks and his favorite of yours also love y'all so much i know doesn't everybody just love us together like you guys can admit it come on goodness okay my favorite trait of that um i just love okay Zach has many many great qualities and great traits but i think that one of the things that I love the most about you is that you are always like so yourself like you you you're normally the loudest person in the room and I think that that's like great because you don't

care to be who you are you don't care to dance on the tables you don't care to like just let yourself shine and be that person like you're always going to show your true emotion and while that could be challenging at times I think it's amazing that you always are willing to let yourself out there and be who you are no matter what. I think that's amazing. It's also because I don't, I don't think I could, like, could change. People constantly try to be like, shh, shh, and I'm like, I don't, I can't hear you. Like, I don't understand. If I go to a movie with Zach, like, if it's like, nobody, everybody hates going to the movies with me. We have to, like, have a conversation before we walk in, okay, like, you can't grab my arm the whole time. You can't, like, freak out about everything before

it happens. Like, Listen. We just get a bunch of food instead so that we're just stuff in our face the whole time. Scary movie two. Brenda in the theater where she's like, no, not there. And she like throws up our pot. That is me. That is 1,000% me.

I'm grabbing your arm the entire time. Anytime anything's funny. I'm like, I hit you because that's just my reaction is to include you in what I should. Yeah, yeah. Which is so annoying. And sometimes I can handle it or like control it. And sometimes I can't. Gosh.

But I was meaning that in also a very positive way, obviously. No, I know. Because I just love you. And you're so much fun. You're always fun and positive. And that means a lot. And funny. And funny.

And the most time and caring person you will ever mean. Also, it's crazy. People have been posting recently. They're like, I didn't realize Zach was so tall. And I'm like, did you think? I mean, have I not stood next to Jesse? He's like barely to my nip. And Jack.

for all these years. Well, Jacks wears lifts, so sometimes he's, you know, a little time. Listen, I helped clean out his closet. I know where those. It's like Donald Trump, throwing the shoes to get the, and the lifts fly out. Remember that time? I did watch what happens live, and I was like a newbie. I was watch happens live. I forget who I was with. I was either with Stossie or Ariana. It was one of the times that I wasn't with with Jacks. In the beginning, I was always with Jacks. And I got to do watch Oh, this was like one of your first. Yeah, it was like one of my very new ones. And Andy asked me, he said,

can you please tell us one secret that people don't know about about Jack's Taylor? And the first thing that came to my mind, I said, I said he wears lifts in his tennis shoes to make him taller. And everybody just busted out, dying, laughing, and cracking up. And then once it quite a dime for a second, I go, And so does Tom Sandoval. Oh my God. No, you didn't.

I didn't know that actually. They were both so mad at me. This was years ago, but Jack still does wear them. Yeah, I know. It's like, I was that line. But still, I don't know about Tom. I don't talk to Tom, really. But the fact that, like, they were both so mad at me for calling them out for wearing lifts

and their shoes. I never, I don't know how I didn't see that episode or didn't know about that. It was like early on. I am dead. I love how Andy asked you and you're like, okay, sure. So he blah, blah, blah. He wears lifts. Yeah, that's not his hair. You're like not four notes. It's 10. It was the only thing. It's so funny. You know, watch it happens live is a live show. Like you have to have an answer. They're moving on. You know, so like you have to come up with things quick. And that was the first thing that I could think of, but it was so funny. That's honestly the best thing ever. And the fact that you just. brought him up again and said that whenever he throw the shoes they go flying they just come oh what's that in the oh there's been times and i hate even laughed about this but it's just funny there's been times where a cruise has gotten to hold of one and he could only find one when he was getting ready he's like where's my other flip i'm dead and i'm like daddy can't find his high heels let's see oh my god that reminds

me of when i was a kid and i um used to i didn't know what a diaphragm was and i put my And I put my mom's diaphragm on my head like a little crown. And my mom was like, where the fuck did you get that? And she didn't, I mean, obviously she didn't say anything about it at the time. She told me like 19 years later. And I was like, I was like, wait, what? What happened? You wore your mom's diaphragy and on your head like a little crown.

Yeah, like it was, you know, like, or a divacca. I don't know, whatever the thing was like. I was like talking about. I was like, still. I was literally like probably. two or three had gotten into my parents' bathroom and was just was wearing a round. And my mom was like, what the fuck are you wearing on your head? That is so good.

Oh, my God. Absolutely hilarious. Okay. We're going to do one more question. Oh, wait. I didn't get to say my trade about you. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.

That's like, re-r-r-r-oh. Well, my favorite trait about you is just that like you are who you. No, I'm just kidding. It's just that like you're the you're the sweetest and like just best person to be around and just like be. You know what I mean? Like we just have we just have this relationship that's just like it's so easy and effortless and like and you make it so much better and you're always and you're always there for me. And thank you. You're always there for me.

Oh, we're going to get emotional. No crying. We can't cry like Michelle. I'm just kidding. Oh my God. Get it up. Can you take that out? Please take that out.

See, this is why we can't do a live podcast. Okay, keep it in. Oh, God. Okay. So, but yeah, no, I do too. I just had to, sorry, I had to troll. But yeah, no, I just love you so much because you're just like, you care so much and you're just always, it's just so much fun to be with you.

We always have the best. time and it's just like yeah thank you i just love it we're just so similar i love you and that's great that's just great they're gonna love me on watch what happens if those are my okay uh this is from reality ops um if you two can do a filmed bravo trip with any other bravo stars who would you go with and why let's say you let's say that you could pick five people okay and it can't be our cast okay from bravo and i'm gonna say pass or present because i feel like that's fun yeah yeah okay so so i can't choose you no nobody from the valley so i just have to choose five people okay so nobody from valley or vanderpump because we're basically all connected

oh okay i see what you're saying yeah like obviously i would shoot well i would only choose tom schwartz yeah but we're not going to choose me sorry tom you can't come on my road trip um okay let me think oh my God, what are the different... I'm trying to think of all the different shows because I would probably pull, like... I'm like, who would be the most entertaining or, like, dramatic for me?

So I would probably, like, I mean, let's be real. If we got, like, Nini and Kim Zolsiak back together... Those were going to be my first two choices. Those are... Literally the first two that were coming out of my mouth, yes. No, I... Nini is just like, she'd be a riot. But I feel like she would be very difficult.

Like, I don't... For both of them, they would make the trip probably hell. I've met Kim so many times and she is so nice. Like she would be like my top choice to come on a trip. Oh, amazing. She would be fun. I think she'd be real fun though. Yeah.

Yeah. And she always has a solo cup and that's what I do. I'm always walking from my, because I live in WeHo so close to the bars. I just walk down the street with my solo cut because it's legal in West Hollywood after COVID to have open container carry law or whatever. So it's like, why not? So I definitely would choose.

Okay. So I think the dynamic. between them would be really funny too. Yeah. And I met Nini too and she was so nice to me as well. But the thing is, is if we're filming, it's a whole different ballgame. Because then people come out and like turn on. You know what's crazy though?

It's like, again, I'll go back to, we'll just take a little bit of a detour. I'll go back to you and me. We don't change on camera. No, no heck no. Like you want to, you know, you want to see anything last season where people were Like, why is he that, blah, blah, but I'm that way on or off camera. Yeah. Like, we ain't changing.

No. For that. And there's several people that don't change. And then there's also those people that you're like, okay, cool. Like, whatever. You know what I mean? So, yeah, honestly, we wouldn't. But that's with any kind of show that you do.

So you wouldn't know what you're going to get from them. That's true. But I would choose Nini, him. God, I, it's because Real Housewives of Atlanta. like OG, like candy. Like that shit. Like those are my favorite people. So I'm like, oh, I want candy too.

I'm like, crap, I can't have all these people. I know. And candy was in freaking, what's the music group she was in? I can't think right now. Is it escape or? Escape. Yeah. I was like not in vote.

Escape. Yeah. Amazing. And she wrote no scrubs. Like that's my favorite song ever. Well, Waterfalls was my favorite song ever. But yeah, like, so let me, let me think of some other shows real quick. Okay, well, we both agree, Nini, Kim.

Maybe we should just do, like, a joint list, and it could be like a, it would be me, you and these people to make, like, just the craziest. Yeah, so let's say eight total. I think Rza is great TV. Okay. Me, you, and I'm sure gay on gay drama. Yeah. Like, you never, you know, until we become best friends, we're mortal enemies.

You know, I'm sure. Okay, me, you, Reza, Kim, Nini. Okay, so we have three more. that we need to complete. Let's see. Let's go through the show. Southern Charm. What about like Melissa Gorga or like?

I mean, do I have to choose between Melissa and Teresa? Because like I don't, I don't know which one I would choose. Because I think that that's the reason, isn't that the reason like NJ is like the. I don't know. I don't know enough about the show. I've just met all these people in real life. Oh, well. That's why it's.

But I'm like, well, I lack them. Everybody's nice to me. so like Melissa was super nice as well. Oh, you know, I would actually love Caroline Manzo. I miss her. Like, I used to really like her. She was on like season one through five or four of Real Housewives of New Jersey. Oh.

Yeah, I really liked her back in the day. Let's see. I'm literally thinking of people I've met in real life because I've never been too much of a brought, like, I hate to say this. I've just, this is not all reality TV. You don't watch reality TV. You watch real scripted shows. Yeah, I like scripted shows or I like TrueCrum, stuff like that. So, like, that's what more so what I watch.

So you're saying you want to invite Scott Peterson on the, on the Roche? Oh, God. Hell no. Yeah, like, that's my problem is I'm new, like, I watched Real Housewives of New Jersey, Atlanta, and Beverly Hills in the beginning. Oh, and the O.C. In the beginning. Oh, I just thought of somebody that would be funny. fun. Hannah Burner. She was on

Summer House for a little bit. Now she's like her. She's a comedian. And technically, if I could bring Stephen from... Oh my God. Yes. Stephen from Summer House. I mean, and the twins, the workers' twins. I love them too. We're filling up our cup now.

Yeah, now the cup is fine. Now we're getting the show cooking. Yeah, because I was trying to think of... The work as twins. Like, they are so fun. Hannah Burner's fun and she was on there. I mean, there's just... I'm just trying to think of it's of whenever you're only trying to think of Bravo and there's so many great people. Yeah, well, and also there's so many different shows and I'm probably not even putting the right shows.

Exactly. Andy. Yeah. Oh, I was going to say Tabitha takes over from the salon one back in the day. I fucking love that bit. She was amazing. I wanted her to, I wanted to run a business into the ground and have her take it over. Like, that's how much I liked her. What is that? Tabitha takes over. It was like she used to take over. It was like she used to take over. salons and then she then it just was like she would take over your business and like fix it for you. Oh kind of like that bar. Like bar rescue. Yeah.

Like kind of like bar rescue but for like anything. Yeah. But that was like a precursor on Bravo. Oh. Yeah. That was back of the day. Oh my God. I fucking used to love that.

Oh. And then Ginny from flipping flipping out. I was obsessed with Ginny. Is that on Bravo too? Yeah. But that's it hasn't been on in years. Oh, okay. See, I used to watch it a little bit when I was younger.

Yeah. I would watch flipping out with my mom and real housewives of Atlanta and stuff like that. So, yeah, I think those are the people I would invite. We just said the most random. The most random people. All over the place. Yeah, sorry. I'm sure you did not like that answer.

And the answer was 19 minutes long. It was good, though, because we were like talking about all this different stuff. Okay, I'm just doing a cute little best friend quiz at the very end. of this. I'm just going to ask a couple. Oh my God. If I fail this, I'm going to be so. No, I'm just going to ask a couple random questions and you're going to tell me what you think that my answer would be. Okay. Just a couple random ones. Um, okay, this is. Make them easy, please. Okay. Um, okay. Am I always too hot or too cold? Oh, I mean, 1,000 percent. And you know the answer for me.

We are always too hot. Too hot. Both of us. I think that's one of the things we bond on the most is our love of keeping it at like 60 at all times wherever we are. Yeah, 67, please. What's one thing I don't like about myself? Jacks Taylor. Just kidding. Just kidding.

I was reaching for low hanging fruit there. That's my bad. One thing you don't like about yourself. I think sometimes you have somebody image of shoes. And I would say, you know, I would say there's some things that I don't need to say them on. But like, I know that you have some insecurities. But bitch, we, we get in snatch. We snatch with Airscolp.

We're getting that shit fixed all up. I think that you think you're too pale sometimes. Oh my God. That is absolutely. No, that is 1,000 percent the number one. I would change my, I hate being white so much. And I mean that as like the worst. the worst color white there is like i am like translucent white like a sick victorian child but i'm

fat so i happen to be well fed like oh my gosh i have no melanin in my skin whatsoever i that is definitely one i spray tan every like twice a week um if i could date any celebrity who would it be oh my god well see it's hard trying to think of who you would date but it's also for you it's like i could thinking like, okay, there's a few, but I'm like, oh, shit, who would I choose? It's hard. I can't even think who I would choose for you. Yeah, I was like. Do you ever say that?

Oh, you know who it would be the twins from Desperate Housewives? Oh, my God. How did you pull that out of your? Because I don't know. I just thought about it. You talked about how hot they were and we were trying to find them, I feel like once. Oh, my God. Wow, you pulled that out of the friendship vaults.

Like, that shit was buried. Oh my God. Yeah, one of them is gay. Max or Charlie, I think it's, I don't know. One of them is gay. The Carver Twins. Yeah, I used to have the largest crush on one of them. And then one of my friends found him on Raya.

And I was like, I got on Raya after like a year and a half and was like swiping just to find him. Never happened. Oh my goodness. But yeah, for you, I mean, like the problem is it's just like me. Our taser all over the place. It's more about personality or whatever. But I could see you with like, I don't know, I just want to see you with like a football player so that we can get free tickets. But I don't know none of their all, none of their names.

Oh my gosh. Okay. If I could have one superpower, which one would I choose? So you have to think which one I would choose and I'll think which one I think you would choose. Oh, my God. One superpower. Okay. These are like, this is like a best friend's quiz that like I feel like you have to talk about these answers at one time.

and then 10 years later, then the questions get answered again. I'm just going to say what I think is the bet. Like what I think you would choose. Okay. I think you would choose. What is it? Telekinesis. Is that how you can hear?

No, that's how you move things with your mind. Yeah. What is it where you can hear? Well, I think that you would. I think that you would choose to hear people's thoughts because you want to know what's going on 24-7. I mean, that is 1,000 percent. The other thing is, though, I'd be like, how would I,

frame them if I could record it. Because I'm like, I'm going to need to call this bitch out and catch them in their lies. You would be sending out a trap and be like, okay, I just heard her say in her thoughts that this person's dating Becky. And then you're going to be like sitting up a trap to get Becky caught. Becky's going to get caught. 1,000 percent, though, that is actually a very good one for me.

I was actually going to say for you, it would either be like super strength or to fly. Yes. But I was thinking super strength because there's always something that's coming up where I feel like that would come in most handy. But then I feel like you don't like Uberine or like, you know what I mean? Or driving. So it's just like, let's fly there. So I think that's, yeah, those would be the answers. Oh my God.

I love it. Okay. One more question. Then we'll go. If I could master one skill, what would it be? This one's so broad. I don't know, woodworking. No, I'm just kidding.

Fucking master one skill. What would it be? I'm going to say it's dating. Oh my God. You guys should see the way Monroe, Britney's dog just like popped up and was like, what was that noise? Yeah, we're coming at you from the bed right now.

Yeah, I think it would be dating. Damn. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. What do you think mine would be? I think yours would be like breakdancing because you would definitely be at the Olympics over that lady. That other lady?

Oh my God. I'm dead. It would be so kind of dance. So Zach loves to dance. No matter where we go, he ends up on the table on something. Doing something he's not supposed to be doing. This is why nobody thinks that I have a graduate level degree because I'm always on a fucking table. So yeah, if you could master everything with dance, you would be.

Well, it's, it's, it's, that's exactly what it would be, it'd be the memorization. The problem is I, it takes me forever to learn choreography. And that's why I don't like do or like learn that types of, I just do freestyle dancing, which is equally as entertaining. Interpretive dancing. Interpretive dancing. It's very interpretive. I love it.

It makes it the night so fun. Oh, God. By the way, check out breaking barriers by us. You shut up. Nobody is supposed to be able to find that. And also, I don't know, whatever account leaked the part. It's only part of the video. So I'm going to, you know what?

I'm just going to release. I wrote a song in college. And it was like, you are my shining stuff. You make the world complete. I know all the words. She does. Guys, I don't think you understand. She found this video one time.

I forget why I even showed it to you or how, like, you found. I don't remember. It was years ago. My friend and you were dating. the way we met was into music and you were helping him with his music stuff. And somehow we. Yeah, somehow it came up that I had done a music video with a song. Called Breaking Barriers.

Well, the group was called Breaking Barriers. The song's called I Need You. And, yeah, it was for a class project, which all you had to do was write lyrics and create a group and explain like the history behind, like, why you were doing that. Because it was for communicating hip hop class. And of course, me being the person I am. I took it to the absolute extreme and my group hated me because I not only made them right or like I wrote the song, made them do a music video and record it, record the song and do the music

video and do an album cover. And I printed that on CDs and gave it every, there's 30 copies out there in the world in Louisville, Kentucky. It's very rare, but there are 30 copies somewhere in Louisville. If somebody has a copy, please send it to me. D.M. Send me. I will like let you said straight to my house. I need it. I, but some fan account found part of the or only posted part of the video. So I think

that I'll just post the full video. Please. And just post it and send it. Yes. And yeah, I think I just have to at this point. You have to. It's going to get out and it already is kind of out. You guys listen, every single time I had people over. Every every time. Like this is pre-cruz

and obviously times that cruise wasn't here. But we would have like after party as at my house or whatever. And anytime there was a group of people, I went to YouTube and I put on Zach Wickham's breaking barriers front of the whole room every single night. Every single time. I love it.

Or sometimes I would get videos of her playing it, and obviously I'm not there. You're not even there. So like she's literally playing. And I'm like, I've never had a bigger fan. I feel very flattered, but also like, stop.

It's hilarious though. Yeah, no, I'm going to have to release it because I think the world. needs that. The world deserves it. The world deserves it. The world's going through some trying times right now, and I think this would help brighten a lot of people's days.

It would, because it is so freaking funny. Well, thank you so much for talking with me tonight. I love you. I love you. I'm so glad we got to do this little Q&A. I know. Tell everybody where to find you. It's at Zach Wickham, or because some dumbass,

Gen Z person got to Zach Wickham on TikTok first. It's the Zach Wickham on TikTok. But yeah, Zach Wickham everywhere else All right, and season two of the Valley Coming soon You guys aren't ready Oh my God, it's gonna be crazy But we're so excited

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