When Reality Hits with Jax and Brittany - REWIND: The Valley's Janet Caperna!
Episode Date: June 6, 2025Valley co-star and new mom Janet Caperna joins Brittany to recap this week's episode! PLUS, they talk about Janet's early involvement with the Vanderpump crew, being approached to join The Va...lley, advice for those going through a divorce or separation, unfortunate bodily mishaps, where Janet stands with Kristin Doute, and Janet's thoughts on Jax calling her a silent killer. Originally aired: 04/19/2024Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Dipsea: get a 30-day free trial PLUS 25% off your annual subscription when you go to DipseaStories.com/REALITYHITSHiya Health: Receive 50% off your first order when you go to hiyahealth.com/REALITYHITSProgressive: Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust ProgressiveDiscover Your New Home at apartments.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey everybody and welcome back to when reality hits with Jackson and Brittany.
Jackson's in Canada.
I'm like, he's here.
So today we have one of my very best friends and Valley cast members, cast mates.
How do you cast members?
Cast mates, Janet.
Kepernick.
I'm so excited.
I know.
I love you.
I'm so happy that you're here.
I can't wait.
This is fun.
So the Valley, the Valley, it's been a wild ride.
Been crazy.
It's your first time.
I mean, you were so everybody listening needs to realize
Jana has been around for a very long time. She's also been in a lot of scenes on Vanderpump
rules. If you look closely in the background, I would say I'm a non-playable character and NPC.
Like I'm just kind of in the background, like having a drink or eating birthday cake or something,
but I'm never speaking. At my wedding.
You had your like, oh, I was crying.
Yes.
I forgot about that scene.
Yeah.
So Jana has been around and she's absolutely amazing.
I want to get to the very beginning of you getting to know this crazy world that we're
in.
Yeah.
So let us know how you came to be in LA.
Well, okay. So I was getting, I was married in Ohio. I got married
when I was like in my twenties and too young. And I was getting
divorced in Ohio too, or separating. And I have family
here in LA. So I have an aunt and uncle who I'm really close
with, who you've met and been over at their house.
And so I wanted to film an episode of Vanderpump Rules at their house. And so I actually filmed an episode of Vanderpump
rules at their house. Yeah. No, did we? Yes. Isn't that the one where we were like, yes,
we filmed like at the at their pool or something on that? I remember being at the pool. I don't
remember filming it. It didn't make it on then. I think it did because there was like
the glass mirror doors that were in the thing and we were all like sitting down. I forget.
I don't remember., but it sounds right.
Or was it Lala?
Lala was with us.
Somebody was having a breakdown.
Oh my God, I have to like rewatch this.
I should have done my research before this,
but I think I definitely know that we filmed there.
Well, so they live out in Los Angeles and I was like,
I want to move somewhere where like I have family,
but I can get away from like Ohio and my marriage and life
and all of that.
So I came out here and when I was looking for places out here kind of secretly, like
my husband didn't know at the time that I was actually like looking for places and like
planning my out. I was out here for a long weekend and I met Sheena at the pool at a
pool party. Actually, I rented an Airbnb that was walking distance to this
bar, the Sycamore. It was like this like whatever. So my friend Ali, who you've met, who has
been one of my friends from home, we walked up to the Sycamore for brunch and then we
asked the bartender, like, where should we go for like a fun day? Like what's cool that
we can get into? And he was like, the Mondrian has this like cool pool party. And like, I
was like, do we need to like know someone at the door? And he's like, no, you can just
go. And so we went and then I saw Sheena there. I had seen her on the show and I was like,
oh my God, she's getting divorced too. She had already, Rob was with her at this point.
So she had already gotten divorced. But what was airing at the time and what I knew of
her was like, oh, this is a girl who's pretty young, also getting divorced.
So after a couple drinks, I was like, I'm not going to say anything to her.
It's fine.
And my friend, Ali, was like, yeah, we might as well, let's get a picture.
So I literally went up and said, love you on the show.
I know you're getting divorced now too.
Or she was like already, and she's like, actually, this is my boyfriend.
And I was like, wow, all right.
So things worked out for you clearly. And we ended up hanging out all day.
Once I told her I was going through a divorce,
Sheena's super nice to people when they come up to her.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
And so she ended up, she's like, let me buy you a drink.
And we talked, we ended up taking a bunch of shots,
getting like waisty, waisty at the pool.
And it's funny, like Allie and I left
and I was like, it was nice to meet you, whatever.
I think we exchanged information, but I was like,
I'm never gonna hear from that girl again. And here we
are seven years later. And she is like one of my best friends and the reason that I know
everybody else. So like after that, I remember she like texted me a couple of times like
random stuff. And then when I moved out here shortly after, I actually ended up moving
in with the bartender who told us where to
go, which is wild. But when I moved out here, then it was like the first week out here was
my birthday and Sheena took me to Disneyland and treated me. And then I always say, I literally
owe meeting my husband. So I owe my child. I owe all my friendships now and around about
way, my job, quote unquote, all this. I'm like, if it weren't for meeting Sheena, that one day, I wouldn't have any of this. And it's, you know, I recognize
give credit where credit is due. Like I am very thankful because Sheena really like introduced
me to a whole new life out here. Yeah, I always think like if that bartender would have told
me to go to a different pool or a different spot, like what my life would be like now,
like I wouldn't have Jason, I wouldn't have my baby. I wouldn't have you. Yeah. And I'm like, trust me, I think about
that all the time too. Like if I wasn't in Vegas at the same time for Kara's birthday
that Sheena was celebrating her birthday, like I would have never met Jax. Like obviously
we're going through our stuff, but like this, my life will be completely different. Totally.
And can we clear for the record? Cause I just saw somebody else say, Janet stalked Sheena.
Just like Britney stalked Jax.
That was my next question to you.
That was going to be my next thing.
Explain to people that nobody stalked anybody.
I always try to be very open and honest.
Yes, I had seen the show.
I knew Sheena was.
I wouldn't have just randomly gone up to her.
That was our only difference is that I did not see the show, but my best friend Kara
had.
Yeah.
And so it's like, yeah, of course, like we went up, you know, to them and we're like
introduced ourselves.
Yeah.
But it wasn't like this one, I wasn't stalking Sheena.
Like I didn't know she was there when I went there.
I just saw her there.
And once I saw her there, I was like, oh, that's that girl from Vanderpump rules.
She's the one who's getting divorced.
I'm going to go say hi to her after a couple of drinks.
Like I'm going through a divorce too. Let's talk. That's something you haven't
called me.
And I feel like there's a lot of friends, not necessarily in our group, but in adjacent
to the Vanderpump crew that started, who met people because they had seen the show and
went up to them and whatever, and they don't admit it. And I think that's shady. I'm like I have nothing to hide.
That's very, you know, I would rather just straight up tell people like yeah, I had seen the show. I went up to Sheena and we ended up becoming friends.
It's wild and weird. I know, but it's the truth. No, and that's amazing because I think that's very important to be like open and honest about that.
Yeah. I actually did not see the show before, but my best friend had. So she told me all about it. Like, it's not like I wasn't aware.
Totally.
Obviously.
Totally.
And if it weren't for Kara seeing it, you probably wouldn't have approached them and
been like, hey, what's up?
Or like partied with them.
Kara wanted to take a photo with Katie.
So I literally took a photo of Katie and Kara together.
That's so funny.
Schwartz comes up, we go to the bar.
He's like, they're all like, let's take a shot together.
Katie was so nice.
So we went up to the bar, took a shot. That's when Jax walked up and that's how I met Jax.
And then that was, that was the beginning of everything.
That's how we stocked our wedding.
Yeah. I didn't stock anybody. And also, I think a lot of people got me confused with
Carmen, because I do believe, I might be wrong, I do believe that Carmen DMed Jax and that's how they met. So like I think a lot of people
were like, Brittany DMed Jax. No, I didn't. I wasn't even following him or anybody from
Vanderpump or anything.
It's just thing you can give people like a little bite of it and then they're always
thinking there's more to the story. And I'm like, I'm telling you the whole story here.
Like, and I'll be open. I could be like, Oh, I never knew who she was. I just happened
to know. The truth is I had seen her from the show. I approached her because
of that. But we developed a genuine friendship. Exactly. When people are like, she just used
Sheena to get in this group. I'm like, you think I've been wasting seven years of my life
to use Sheena who I'm still friends with, by the way. I'm like, when did I did Sheena? I don't
remember that. And then I'm using Sheena then to get, and I'm like, that's also insulting to Sheena
that to make it sound like I would, I don't know.
Yeah. I get what you're saying. Like to use her to seven years later, now we have the
Valley and Janet's a main cast member. No, I like, me and Janet met and we had an instant
connection as well.
So it was like-
Well, you were single. I moved out here obviously when I was going through my divorce.
Yeah, like do you remember-
You the first time you met me?
Yes, you and Jax were broken up.
It was during that period of time,
you were living in a hotel suite.
Yep.
And Sheena and I came, we were going out
and we were like out and about one night.
We came to your hotel to meet up with you.
You were getting ready and then we were going out somewhere.
I forget where we went.
I could probably find a picture from the night or something in my phone, but we all went
somewhere like a bar or an event or something like that.
That was the first time I met you.
I just remember being like, oh my God, her accent makes me feel like at home.
I've know that.
I went to school in Southeast Ohio for college at Ohio University.
You start to get close to the Kentucky line or like down south and like
you get that accent.
I was like, oh, she reminds me of my people from home.
And I think one of the first, that wasn't the first time I met you, but one of the first
times we all went to Disneyland.
It was like, Jamie, me, you, I think like Sheena's sister and mom, and we all spent
a day at Disneyland.
Oh, I love Disney.
But you and you and Jax were like broken up temporarily at the time.
Sheena traveled a lot during that time.
Sheena's a really good friend to be single with.
Oh, yeah.
She was like, let's go.
Let's go.
That's so funny though, because now like me and Janet are so close.
Yeah.
And you know, this is seven years later.
Seven years.
And obviously, even when we started talking about, oh, you know, there might be
a show that's, you know, based around like you and Jack's friend group and like our neighborhood
kind of thing. Obviously, also, I had a long conversation with Sheena about like, how do
you feel about this? Do you think I'm right for this? Like, do you know me really well?
Like, do you think I should do this? Like, it wasn't just like, all right, Sheena, I've
gotten what I need from you. Like, it's just, I don't know. I need to stay out of the comment section
clearly. Yeah. Get out of the comment section. Do not listen to anybody because people can
be so mean. People are, there's been a lot of nice stuff, but just as much. I'm like,
like, I don't know, just some of the stuff I see, I'm just like, Oh my gosh. Yeah. I
mean, people can be like horrible in the comment comment sections but like, of course there's so much more love. Like people are really loving the
Valley. We're so grateful for that obviously. But I just wanted to like make it clear how
you came around this group. And then obviously whenever you married Jason, like Jackson,
Jason got close like, you know, it's very like real and organic. It's not like we were
like, Oh, Janet was stalking Sheena. So now we want her to be on like, no know, it's very like real and organic. It's not like we were like, Oh, Janet was
stalking Sheena. So now we want her to be on like, no, that's not how it happened. We've
been super close for a very long time.
I almost wish because that would be like, wouldn't that be a good like true crime story
if I ended up like, reek reek reek, like killing you everybody or it was like some sort of
like cool, like, I don't know. Maybe I'm watching too much true crime too.
Yeah, I watched a lot of true crime.
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Okay. So since you have been through a divorce and a separation before, and we all know what
I'm going through, what is your best advice for me or for anyone listening that is going
through a separation right now?
I would say, that's a great question. I would say one, having clear boundaries is very important
and sticking to them. So like, you know, if, and I think you've done a really good job.
I know that you have trouble with boundaries. Like you're very forgiving or you're like,
it's okay. No, we can, we don't have to do it that way. Like, yeah. And I feel like you
sacrifice yourself often, but you have like made a boundary in the sense like a physical boundary that you have moved out like, and you've been like,
No, I'm not, you know, coming back to the house anytime soon. So I think having boundaries
is really important, like your own space and just telling the person like, we don't get
to talk maybe every day or all day every day. Like I know you and Jack's actually have really
good communication about cruise right now. I think that's good. But having boundaries
of like, this is where I sleep at night. You can't call me for every
little thing. Really establishing good boundaries. And then I always say, if somebody's being a jerk,
let them. Don't react to it and become a bigger jerk. So if Jax is annoying you one day instead
of being like, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah and like popping off on him, just be like, all right, like something I
need to do better at because like if we get into an argument, I'm gonna pop back
off. So it's like I gotta like reel that in. It's hard. And it doesn't make
you feel good afterwards. You're like I should have just let him be a jerk today
instead of being like then I you know told him off and this and this and now I
feel bad that I'm the jerk. Don't.
I definitely feel like over time
I'm starting to get better at that.
I'm starting to let go of a lot of things.
Yeah, and then just also I think embrace sadness.
Separation, divorce, all of it is a sad time.
It's not what anybody, you never go into a marriage
thinking it's gonna end.
Never.
So also just if you have a sad day, like let yourself cry, like let yourself
listen to a sad song and like have that moment or, and then reach out to your friends and
be like, all right, now I want to go to dinner and be happy.
But like when you do have moments of sadness, like don't push them away.
Yeah.
And I definitely have those moments.
Yeah.
She didn't see me.
Yeah.
She didn't see me, whatever. I've been like breaking down in tears and everything.
But I'm also like feeling very good and very strong. And like,
I have like, I don't know, I feel very good at where I'm at right now.
And it's not all or nothing. You know what I mean? It's not,
you're all happy or you're all sad. It's like, of course,
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doing your own thing,
but I'm sure you still have moments where you feel weak or sad and it's okay to like, it's,
you know, you don't have to be all strong or all weak. It's like, you're always going
to be somewhere in the middle.
Yeah. And that's, that's definitely what I'm noticing. Like I have my ups and downs like
big time. Yeah. Okay. Let's switch gears. Okay. So this is your first time being like
a main cast member on a reality
TV show. I know there's a lot of things that come with being on reality TV. Obviously you've
done it for a lot of years. What is your favorite parts and least favorite parts of what you
have experienced so far? So I'll end on a good note. So least favorite first, I would
say is like the trolls and
the hate. Like, you know, and being sometimes misunderstood. You kind of always see, I think
on shows like Two Sides Every Story and you, you know, there's, we don't see people, what
people say in their like interviews and confessionals until it airs. So sometimes there's things
that happen. I'm like, no, wait, that's not what I meant. Or like that's, and you know, being a little misunderstood sometimes, or just having people,
you know, having one of your bad moments caught. And then people being like, wow,
she's really bratty. And you're like, damn, I was really bratty in that moment. And like, wish you
could take it back, but you can't. It's out there. It's out there. So like having people hate because,
you know, or say, be like, oh my
God, she is horrible. I'm like, damn, I was horrible in that moment, but that's not who
I am all the time. It was just one bad moment.
It was a bad moment. And that's what I think a lot of people need to realize. Like if you
had cameras following you around during your hard times, you're having a breakdown while
you're pregnant or a breakdown while you're fighting with your husband. Like you're going
to have bad things. You're going to say things you don't
mean. You're going to do things that you don't mean. And we just do it on TV.
Yeah. I keep saying, there's one comment too, that's gotten to me a little bit where people
are like, she's just hiding behind her pregnancy while she's like conducting all this evilness.
And I'm like, one, I haven't used my pregnancy as an excuse for
anything yet. Like, I might in the future, I might have at some point, but I felt like
I was like, I'm fine. But seeing the negative comments is not fun. I will say the positive is
like getting brands that you kind of like, there's's a couple of brands I've always followed or
purchased their stuff before and having them slide into my DMs. Can we send you a package
of like, what? Me? You're going to send me cookie dough and a stroller? Awesome. So that
part's fun. And it's fun also to have, you know, all of us hang out. We're all obviously
real friends in real life. But we would normally like when we're not filming, see each other
like once a week or like twice a week, whatever. It's kind of fun. Like when everything's going
on, we see each other like all the time. Like it's like almost every day is like something
fun and excuse to get dressed up or, or dressed down and hang out. But like, it really like
bonds you even more because
I feel like we get to see each other like even more.
Yeah, no, that's so true. That's like it's definitely a lot of fun.
Yeah, it's fun. It's fun to get to plan stuff and yeah.
Okay, so now we all know that you're a new mother.
Yes.
So let's go into some of that.
How are you feeling as a new mom?
I'm feeling good.
Honestly, I felt like everything went almost too well for a while.
It was really like I had a, my birth, you know, was labor was hard, but nothing horrible
happened the first part, the first three months I was like tired and all that, but got through
it.
It actually, the first time I actually started feeling like any sort of, I don't know, postpartum anxiety or feeling
just like not myself a little bit was at three months postpartum. And it's still kind of
trickling in now, but that was the first time where I felt like a genuine drop off almost,
where I just felt really weird and off and I couldn't pinpoint where the
feeling was coming from. And then I started Googling, of course, like I'm so grateful
that there's like such a mom network out there. But like I started to-
Now people actually talk about postpartum. I feel like thank God.
Nobody did for a very long time.
Because I Googled, I'm like three months postpartum, like hormone shift. And it was like this whole
thing about science about how like, yes three months You don't do normally experience like this drop-off and shift and your body changes a lot and I'm like, oh I didn't experience it
Early on but I'm feeling it heavy now
So overall I feel like I'm super grateful for everything and healthy and happy is like all I care about
I have a healthy happy little cutie that I'm like fully obsessed with
But for like me personally, I did notice a big shift at three months that I'm like fully obsessed with. But for like me personally, I did notice
a big shift at three months that I'm still like working through. I just started therapy
again because of it, but it's, it's hard, but it's the best thing I've ever done in
my life. Exactly. Like there's always struggles, but like it's the love that you feel is incredible.
And I'm so grateful obviously for you, for all of our little mom network that we've made.
Like, and it's just, my baby loves you. mom network that we've made. I know. It's so good that we have each other.
My baby loves you. He's like fully upset. He smiles. He loves pretty ladies. He's always
smiling at you. And it's been really cute to see Cruz and him interact. Cruz was staring at him the
other day and his pacifier fell out. My baby's pacifier fell out. And Cruz walked up and put it
back in when he was fussing. And I was like, Oh, you, I was like, you knew what would help
him. I know like little sweet things like that.
Yeah. To see them grow up together is going to be amazing. I'm so excited. I'm so happy
for you. What has been your biggest struggle as a new mom?
I would say that like three month hormone shift was like hard. Um, getting used to not
sleeping like I am breastfeeding and pumping. So like I'm up every three hours, even if that like three month hormone shift was like hard. Getting used to not sleeping,
like I'm breastfeeding and pumping,
so like I'm up every three hours,
even if he's sleeping through the night, I'm up.
So just being tired and then getting used
to bringing him places and feeling like even just comfortable.
Like it's literally like, you're like, am I,
do I have all the stuff I need?
Am I gonna be okay?
Like even just like putting him into the car for the
first time, I'm like, I didn't hit the stroller brake and he started rolling off and I was
like, oh my God, I'm the worst mother in the entire world. What if he would have rolled
into the street? Just getting used to.
You caught him immediately, but it's still like this mom-
It's terrifying.
Mom-gall is very instant and it's hard.
Or days when I'm really tired instead of, I've been trying to do a little neighborhood
walk with him in the stroller every day, but on days when I'm like really tired instead of like, you know, I've been trying to do a little neighborhood walk with him in the stroller every day.
But on days when I'm exhausted, sometimes I'm like, I'm not, I can't do it.
And then I'm like, Oh, I'm the horrible mom.
All he did all day was like, sit with me and walk around.
Like I strapped him to my chest and we walked around the house together.
I'm like, I'm the worst.
And I'm like, actually all he wants to do with this stage is be with you.
Honestly.
And that's, you're doing an amazing job. I'm so happy for you. I'm so proud of you guys.
Thank you. So switch gears yet again. The other night we had a dinner party here at
my new Airbnb and it was with chef Gino. Oh my gosh. He's a cutie patootie. He's so
cute. But I want people to know that
whenever, cause actually Janet and I playing this together and whenever we were talking
about this, it was because our episode on the Valley in Malibu, Chef Gino was actually
in Malibu as well. And they just didn't show that part of our girls night. They didn't
show us eating. Yeah, they didn't show us eating. They showed us before and after. Before
and after, whenever I'm like shaking my titties in Michelle's
face. Well, they had to make room for that. Yeah, they had to make room for that. And
my like mile long story about crab walking in the ocean. Oh my God. I loved that so much.
I was dying. I was dying at that. Which I keep saying, I was saying this all night at
the girls dinner. I was like, this show is cop walking me.
Like they are showing my face is frozen.
My jaw is frozen for majority of the season, which that was my own fault.
And yes, I'm addressing it again because people seem to still not understand why my mouth
looks like that.
Oh my gosh.
I had that Morpheus done.
When you told me you were doing that, I was like, are you sure?
And you're like, yeah, it's a quick turnaround.
And I was like, I don't know.
I don't know if you should do this.
No, it's like all season long.
Like, it's my biggest regret.
I mean, not really my biggest regret because I love how it looks now.
But the regret is that I was not able to do it a couple of weeks earlier.
I didn't do it a couple of weeks earlier, a month earlier, actually.
You would have been in the clear.
Because then I would have been fine.
Like you can tell in my interviews versus on camera, like the difference, like I'm doing a couple of weeks earlier. I'm not earlier actually. You would have been in the clear. Because then I would have been fine. Like you can tell in my interviews versus on camera,
like the difference, like I'm back to normal in my interview lights and then on camera
it's like.
Your downturn.
But people continue to ask me, why does your face look like you're frowning all the time?
I'm like, did you not watch the show? Like it literally showed. And that's so frustrating
for me because I feel like, I feel like half the time people know what happened and they're still just wanting to comment
about it.
Jason said this the other day to me because I was like, I didn't see that there was something
I was like, I didn't say that. Kristin did. And I'm like, why is everyone keep asking
me if I said this and this and this? And Jason's like, you know how you are when you watch
TV, you're on your phone, you're half paying attention, you look up, you miss something
and then you just think something else happened. He was like, so just give people
the benefit of the doubt. You know, they're going to mix stuff up. And I'm like, that
is very true. But still back to the cock blocking.
Honestly, what hot guys are watching? I mean, maybe there's some hot guys watching Bravo,
but you know, it's mostly the girlies and the gays.
True. I hope. But still I'm like, gosh, like, gosh, we didn't have Chef Gino on there, but we had to be talking
about the pooping in the ocean and with the dora.
Let me make something clear really fast.
Whenever this happened on the boat, we were out in the middle of the water.
What do you do?
You have to go.
And I was scared.
So Jax was around me, but there was no people around me.
Honestly, that's the nicest thing he's ever done.
Yeah, that's probably like one of the best things he did for me. But nobody else was
around me. Like I'm mortified that I did that obviously, but that was like, I'm telling
the truth. You gotta go, you gotta go.
Shit happens to everyone.
Honestly, you know, I think, I don't know if I've told this story publicly, but I shit
my pants in front of Jason on our couch
and Jason cleaned it up.
Oh my God.
He's such a sweetie. I came out, I wobbled.
Were you pregnant?
No, it was-
You weren't even pregnant?
It was that time. Remember, it was like, I think 2020 or 2021, Katie had everyone over
for Thanksgiving and everybody got COVID.
Oh, it was her Christmas party the weekend of Thanksgiving.
Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, because I always had Thanksgiving and then she would have Oh, it was her Christmas party. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. Because I always had Thanksgiving and then she would have
like the Christmas the Saturday after. Yeah.
There was like 10 or there was like 15 of us there and like 10 people got COVID.
So like everyone got COVID. I was sick. I all week had been like dressed gross,
whatever. And I finally started to feel better. So I put these like cute silk pajamas on
and we were sitting on the couch about to eat and I thought I was going to have a cute little boop
fart like a little doop doop.
Like a little fluff.
Yeah, I was like, this will be a cute little fart.
So I just like turned, you know, lifted up a half a cheek and let out what I thought
was gonna be a super cute little fart.
And instead it was hot liquid lava.
It was a shart.
Everywhere.
Not just a shart.
Like it was liquid.
Like just like I peed out of my butt and I immediately
jumped up and then I looked at the couch and there was like a little brown spot on the
couch and we had Jason, I had cooked dinner and I had made like chicken with like mushrooms.
So there was like a brown sauce on our plate. So Jason looked at me really confused. He's
like, did you just and what he meant, I guess, was like spill on the couch. And I went, yes, I shit my pants. Okay. And I ran, I waddled,
rattle ran out of the room into the bathroom, like peeled my poop clothes off of me, got
in the shower, rinsed off and everything, called my mom from the bathroom. And I was
like, this is it. This is the end of our relationship. Jason's for sure leaving me like I pooped our couch. My mom was like, Oh no, well, he's a nice man. Hopefully he
understands. And I walked back out and Jason goes, I cleaned it up with soda water. You
think that's okay? And I was like, you're a dream. I was like, thank God for you. Truly.
Jason is so sweet. But I love that you just told that because it makes me feel way less
embarrassed. Because it almost looked like on the show that I'm always just like pooping
in front of Jax. That is not the case at all.
And I think we met like, I like the whole thing was that Michelle was the lobby. We
poop in the closed bathroom in our rooms.
Exactly. And I will be in the closed bathroom in a room and Jax will still walk in there to tell
me the smallest thing.
And I'm like, get out of here.
This is what he's done since day one.
I mean, it was on random rules.
He follows you around.
He follows me around.
I'd be in the bathtub, anything.
Like he is like, walks up to me like basically just like wanting to have a conversation with
me.
So that's what I meant whenever this was on the show is the fact that Michelle would like, if they stayed in a hotel together, she would like
go downstairs. Like if I'm dating a brand new man, I'm probably going to do that too.
I'm not just going to like let it all out in the bedroom.
You're kinder than me. I think also Michelle doesn't just go to the lobby. It's not like
she's like, all right, Jesse, I gotta poop. I'm going to the lobby. She like pretend she's
getting coffee. She's coming to go pick up some coffee and like a magazine from the lobby. It's not like she's like, all right, Jesse, I had to poop. I'm going to the lobby. No, she like pretend she's getting coffee. She's coming to go pick up some coffee and
like a magazine from the shop. Do you need anything? And then, and I'm like, girl, you're
better than me. Like I, if I could have a wife, Michelle, I would pick, I think I would
pick her because I'm like, damn, that's like so considerate. Yeah. Like she like crazy
does that. And after like Jesse, Michelle's been been together exactly three months less
than Jackson. I wow. So
what I'm thinking whenever she says that is like you still do that day this many years
later like I get it in like the first like year of your relationship like my ex boyfriend
would never he would never I would never like it was never around each other whatever but
like Jackson was just the opposite. He's just like, immediately pooping with the door open. Two weeks in, I'm washing my hair in the shower
and he has to come in. And it was where we lived. I think it was actually on Vanderpump
rules. You have one bathroom in your apartment.
But that's the difference because I know it was like on Wild Drive Inside, they're like,
do you agree with Brittany or Michelle? And I'm like, hold on. I don't poop in front of
Jack. There's a difference. No, this is not an open door policy or the lobby. There's a middle ground and that's
where we are.
Yes, exactly. Especially after nine years. That's a big difference.
100%.
But still, that was so funny.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
We got into pooping.
Okay, wait. So back, we have Chef Gino.
We booked him here because we thought we were
going to watch him or see his beautiful food on the episode. We missed it, but we did have
some delicious food that night. We had some delicious food here. It was so awesome.
It was amazing. And you knew Gino from like our Craig's, which we love Craig's in LA.
He was a server there. And then during COVID times, he started posting on his stories that
he was doing food drops. And then where he would literally make a lasagna and you could
go pick it up if you were friends with him. He was just testing out food. And then he
became a private chef basically because of that. So anytime we can use a private chef.
Yeah. And he's sweet as a button.
And really nice to look at.
Really nice to look at with really nice food. Yes. But it was such a good time. Like, you know, we had all the girls
and the gays here and it was like very fun. And we got to watch, well, we eventually got
to watch the show. It was a whole day and couldn't figure out how to get it on the TV.
I'm like, we can't even figure out how to get our own shows on the TV. Lala and Sheena
were here. We couldn't figure any of it out. But Ocean was here and
Cruz was here. And it was just so cute because Ocean is like building her little magnet tile
house and Cruz kept knocking it down.
I was sitting with her and she was like, build this one. And she showed me pictures of it
and Cruz kept eyeballing us. I could tell he was like, those are my magnets. What are
they doing? But he was playing with dinosaurs or something else sitting right next to us.
And I was like, he kept eyeballing though. And once I built this thing, Ocean was like,
yeah, it's great. And then all of a sudden Cruz walks over and he just smushes it because
they fall apart. It's like Lego-ish. Smushes it and Ocean furrowed up her face and goes, Groose and she did the eyeball thing like from meet the parents. Yeah. And goes,
Groose, I'm watching you. And I died. I was such a lala thing to do. It was so cute. Lala claims
she doesn't do that. She was like, I don't know where she saw or learned the eye thing from where
she's like fingers pointing and looking at, you know, I feel like I've seen Lala do that. I actually have too. Maybe she doesn't realize she does
it. She probably doesn't realize. Yeah, but it melted me. And then Cruz was like,
looking at Ocean like with her like little angry face. I was like, Oh, you guys.
Cruz was like, wait, what? What's going on? These are my magnets. It's fine. Little Ocean.
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Okay, so now we're going to go into a little recap of the valley.
I want to start off with Jack's acting like he cleans my entire house.
Oh my gosh. I died when I saw this. Does that man, when do you, okay, I have a question
for you.
I was so mad.
Not to be a Tom Sandoval who says that Ariana never ordered anything for the house or whatever,
which is also bullshit. When do you think the last time Jack Taylor ordered toilet paper,
paper towels, groceries?
It's been years. It's been years and years. He will go to the grocery store sometimes, but since our separation
especially, he doesn't know what to order to the house. So I will send groceries to
the house. I'll send everything to the house because I want to make sure if Cruz is there.
Still?
Yeah, but I'm starting to back off the longer that we've been separated. I'm starting to
back off with doing those things more. But for me, like whenever he got this like edit to where he looks like he cleans the whole house and
like does I'm like, people, I need you to understand and if Jax was here today, he would
say the same thing. I already talked to him about this. Like, he does not know how to
turn on the washing, like the washer dryer does not know how to do any of that does never
has never swept the floors, wiped
off the countertops, done anything like that. So what he does do though, is if we are planning
a party and having people over, all of a sudden he's OCD and has to like, it's like a weird
thing that he does to aggravate the shit out of me. Seriously.
I understand. It's like kind of like a show off. He's like, Oh, I'm doing all this stuff.
And it's like, I had somebody under my photo of me on the interview couch or whatever,
where I was looking very hot. And they said something like, Oh yeah, so Brittany comes
home hungover and Jack's is cleaning the whole house. And I was like, Oh, oh my gosh. Absolutely
not. I literally cleaned that house, talked to bottom. I do everything for them. And I was like, Oh, oh, my gosh, absolutely not. I literally cleaned that house, talked
to bottom I do everything for them. And Jax would say the same thing. So yeah, he was
that day being aggressively like cleaning and stuff. But he does that anytime we have
like an like a party at our house, we would have a pool party. And then he makes everybody
feel uncomfortable whenever they get there. Yeah, he's like, you done with that drink?
Yeah, throw that away. But he doesn't do that normally. So that's something I wanted to make clear because I was like, this is not how our life
was at all.
Give him the leaf blower credit.
You're not using that leaf blower.
That you can give him credit.
The yard is his thing.
He's supposed to take care of the yard.
I take care of the inside, the family, everything like that.
He is the yard person.
I'll give him leaf blower and I'll give him if your sink needed to plunge which I didn't even know you could do
I was like what's happening? I guess that's his job too. But the rest I will say is you for sure
I mean, I've plunged all the toilets. I've done it all too. So yeah trash cans
Trash cans getting the mail and leaf blow in the yard. Those are good. Those are good tasks for him
Yeah, it's not like he does nothing. Sometimes I'll do the dishes getting the mail and leaf blower in the yard. Those are good. Those are good tasks for him.
Yeah.
It's not like he does nothing.
Sometimes he'll do the dishes in there,
but I still, I was just like, oh no, no, no.
We have to clear that up big time.
Now every once in a while, when you go back to your house,
I know you go for like Cruz's speech therapy
and like some of that stuff or like to grab stuff.
Is there ever times where you walk in and you're like,
oh my God, and you're like still picking stuff up.
I can tell since I've not been staying there all the time, how different it is. Like just
like the counters and like I'm very little things like little things like that. I can
tell like the difference in the, the refrigerator is not stopped. The groceries aren't talking.
I can't imagine.
The pantry is not stopped.
I can't imagine. There was a while where the top of your freezer had like almost
smoke marks coming out of it. Because, and Jax, I don't know what's up with this thing.
And I was like, have you seen how much food you guys have? That thing's working overtime.
Sometimes I do a little overboard, but like my mammal has been very much like that. Cause
like, as a lot of people know listening, like we all live close to each other on the farm.
So it's like my mammal is the person who has everything. And I think I grew up seeing that and like, that's how
I am.
You're the host house.
Yeah. And I love being the host house and I'm still, even if I'm Airbnb, I'm going
to be the host house.
I'm like, there's still all the snacks here. I love it.
Like my pantry and fridge is stocked here. But like, that's like, it's weird to see that,
you know, whenever I go back.
I understand wanting to keep stuff stocked for Cruz because I know you don't want him
to go without all of his favorite stuff and his stuff he needs. But you do have to just
eventually, that's another boundary soon that I feel like you're going to have to put up
of Jax needs to figure out what's on the grocery list and make sure that he has the stuff for
Cruz. You make sure you have the stuff for Cruz here.
He's been texting me like, hey, what groceries do I need to get for Cruz? Because I'm starting
to like try to back off. And he, you know, he obviously wants that for
Cruz. I'm not trying to bash him in that way. But he's capable. Yeah. He will do it. He
will. But I just wanted to make it clear that he does not clean the freaking house. I was
like, I could not believe that. And the fact that people actually said that.
Well sometimes you catch one moment of somebody and the people think that's how it always is. And it's like, maybe Jax was picking up this one time, but that's not the
norm. Exactly. I also just felt like every time that the show has been showing me, my
jaw's already frozen. I'm always maneuvering my outfits. I'm hungover like in my cool mom
shirt or I'm like eating chips in the car. Oh my God, the chips in the car. We were stuffing our faces.
I was like, the drive from the valley to Malibu is like an hour long. So when you have cameras in
your car and all that, I'm like, we can eat in the middle. They're not going to show this. And of
course they do. They show us stuffing our faces with Funyuns. Yeah. And also like they filmed me and Janet going into like a gas station.
Oh yeah.
And then like getting liquor to bring to the party and like all that. And then we're just
like eating the whole way.
Stuffing our faces. I think I was mowing on some Funyuns on that drive.
It's so funny because like, Janet's like narrating being like, we just
had a very nice, uh, clean, I forget all the words that you use. You're like, happy healthy
girls night. Whatever it was. Well, honestly, that girls night was the first, I'm so happy
we had that night because it was the first time in a while where everyone wasn't screaming
at each other. Exactly. We kept getting together as a group and there was always unresolved
stuff. Everybody had a feeling or something had to say. And this is the first time where
we were just like, forget it. Let's just check into this house. I swear it also has something
to do with seeing the ocean. When you have the ocean view outside, you can't be an asshole.
Trust me, I agree. It was amazing. Kristin had her tits out. Which I will say, as much as Kristin and I have our
moments, that girl has the nicest boobs I've ever seen. She told me that look was so upset over
that. Really? I was wondering because I remember when I saw, because I wasn't drinking obviously
this whole summer. So anytime everybody started getting lit, I was like, I loved it. I was
like laughing at everybody.
Yeah, you got to be sober and watch us all be crazy.
It was just like, I'm like, oh, I'm going to remember all this. And I remember when
Kristen, all of a sudden she turned around, she had this robe out, or she had robe in
her like boobs were out. I turned around and I was like, Kristen, I think it's like in
one of the trailers, you hear me go like, Chris, and that's me.
I guess you don't see and kind of some behind the scenes is like, there's like 10 other
people in the room filming this and listening to our audio and all this. And I'm like, oh,
dang, the camera guys are getting a treat today.
Yes. She looked great. She looked great. I was wondering though. She looked great on
Watch Time with Bob too. I was wondering if Luke was gonna get a little bit like nothing like crazy.
Yeah, I definitely think he was a little Jill. But still, it's just funny. I mean, I'm so
happy about the show. I think it's going great. And I've said multiple times like how proud
I am of all of you guys, like brand new coming on the show and showing as much as your life as you have and like putting it all out there. I know it can be
hard sometimes, but like, like overall, I think we've made such a great show.
Well, I just, I think everyone came on very raw and real. Like, like Nia's stuff, this
past episode of sharing her postpartum, I'm grateful for that now because just slightly
having feelings like that and being unsure of what I like that she wasn't like, oh, I'm not going to just diagnose myself with depression. It's
maybe more than baby blues, but I don't want to put a label on it yet. I understand that,
not really being sure of what is going on and how to describe it. So her putting that
out there, I think is amazing. I think Jesse and Michelle putting their therapy sessions
and stuff and
talks like that about their marriage. They could have easily come on and same with you
and Jax, everybody could have come on and been like, we're perfect. Everything's fine.
Don't worry about it. We're just going to play it up. And no, everybody like truly was
really real. And we're like, we're not going through the best time. And this is what life
and marriage is.
And that's why I think our show is so relatable because these are real life things
that all of us are going through.
And I appreciate it so much from you guys.
I've said it so many times,
because I know what it's like to be brand new
on a reality show, like all the pressure that you feel.
Grand Adventure Pump was already like,
I came on season four.
I'm so glad this is brand new.
Like for me, it feels like really
awesome that this is a brand new show. Totally. And it feels, I guess, refreshing in that
way. Like, you know, we don't see each other's, you know, moments all the time until it airs
sometimes. And so when I see other people's stuff, I'm like, wow, like, like this is really
real. Like I'm happy that everybody's sharing stuff. I think like there in a couple episodes,
there was a moment that you're going to see where I have a breakdown over something. And I remember in that moment,
all I wanted to do was escape from everybody, from the group, from the cameras, from everything.
And I ran away and I sat for a second and I thought, I can either lock the store right
now, not let anybody in and have my full meltdown, or I can embrace that I agreed
to share my life and let the moment happen where they're going to see me maybe ugly crying
and being really mad and all this stuff. And I remember being like, oh, I might regret
this, but all right, I'm not going to lock the door and they're going to chase me in
here and we're going to see the moment.
And that's like awesome that you're like willing to do that because that is what people don't
understand is so hard. Like you have to like realize that you're going to like let your
whole life out there for people to judge. No matter what.
And they will.
As soon as you become on a reality TV show, they're going to judge you the way you look,
the way you act, the way you talk, the way you dress, the way you anything. Like your
entire life is up for grab.
And judge you based on how other people that you're around perceive you and the things
they're saying about you. Someone else can say, Oh, she's like this. And then people
judge you based on that.
Yeah, exactly. So it's a whole crazy thing. It's a weird experience.
Let's talk about something funny really fast because you were there and it went viral. Cruz's cake falling at his birthday party.
I was dying at that. You know what? I didn't tell you this at the time, but when they...
So we were at, what's that place called? Skyzone. It's like a trampoline park. Really fun for
like the three-year-old crowd. And when they brought this like, you know, a party table
in and they were setting it up in front of you guys to put the cake on. and when they, they brought this like, you know, a party table in and they were setting
it up in front of you guys to put the cake on.
And when they were setting it up, it looked wobbly for me, but I'm a control freak.
So I always think like, Oh, is that, is that right?
It's right.
Should I go?
And in my head, I was like, should I go, uh, like make sure like, should I go under the
table and make sure that it's like upright?
And I was like, no, you're crazy.
Leave them alone. The skyzone employees are perfectly capable of putting
a cake table together. It's going to be fine. And as soon as it fell down, I was like, I
should have told them that I got it.
Well, because I didn't notice because I'm like picking up crews trying to find him,
rally the troops, like get ready for cake, doing all this. So like, I didn't notice anything.
And I love Skyzone. They were amazing. They felt so bad that the table felt like I'm not blaming them at all. It actually made like lifelong
memories that like everybody at the party will probably like a three year old's birthday party.
You might not remember like 20 years ago, but now everybody's going to remember this. You know what
I mean? Like that, like it almost made it better in a weird way, but well, and the cake was saved because it landed on the table. So it all
and it didn't explode. It just like the layers just tilted over. Yeah, it was like actually very
good. And we were still able to serve it to everybody at the party. But it's so funny,
because I feel like in the video, you can tell for those of you who haven't seen the video,
we are we there's a table put up in front of like our balloon wall and everything.
And we're singing Happy Birthday to Cruz. And Cruz could like care less to blow out
his candle. So me and Jax are like, okay, let's blow it out for him. So we both like
lean in, but I'm holding on to Cruz. So Jax like puts his hand on the table. And I think
just that extra weight just made it fall over. But also Cruz's feet
were like kind of like, you know, it was just a mixture of everything going on. The table
collapses, the cake bounces.
That was so wild how it bounced.
But I just cracked up.
Yeah. I loved that you had a good time because a lot of people in that situation might cry
or freak out or something and you were just like,
I just laughed like I was like, it was also
the end of the party. Like I just thought it was funny. Yeah, you know. And now it was
just it was just a memory that everybody's gonna have for. Yeah.
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We love Sheena, obviously, but a lot of the comments afterwards like, I wonder how Sheena's
feeling about this.
Oh my God. People keep saying that. Did you see her tweet responding to these comments?
Somebody after there was a New York earthquake said, Oh, I wonder how she knows. Has anyone
checked on Sheena after the New York earthquake? And she responded to it and said, I actually
don't go to New York until next week, but thanks. I was like, yes. I was like, yes.
I'm glad she has a sense of humor about it. Oh my gosh. So funny. She's so funny. When
the cake first fell though, I remember looking
and then I saw that it all fell into the tablecloth and I shouted out Jason said something to
me later about this. I was like, I'll still eat it. I made a statement. I was like, no
kids were hurt. The cake is still edible. We're good. It's fine. I kept saying, it's
fine. It's fine. It's fine. And it was, and it was delicious. Fun, fatty cake.
Yes. It was really good. It was really good.
It's called like, you know how, I don't know how to pronounce things. Ghetto?
You put it somewhere.
Okay. Yeah. I tagged it. I tagged it.
You tagged it in your thing.
Hold on. Hold on. Let me say it out loud. Let me say it out loud. The ghetto shop? Is
that how you say it? loud. Let me say it out loud. The Gatot shop. Is that how you say it? Gatox.
It's T-H-E-G-A-T-E-A-U-X. Gato. I think that might be Gato.
Oh, I said Gato. Okay.
Something like that.
The Gato shop. They're great though. They made it. They made his rookie of the year
cake too.
Oh, that was cute. I remember that one.
Yeah. Like they're amazing cake makers. I love it. I love it. No, the party was so fun. It was,
yes. That was a, I've never seen so many children in my entire life running around.
I know. I was like, oh my gosh. There was a lot of people there. But Skyzone is such a fun
place for kids. Yeah. You guys belong there, right? Because I remember Jack's being like,
oh, we normally take him here like during the week. And like, when it's a little less busy, he was like,
I don't know if I've ever seen it this busy before. I was like, Oh my, it was, it was
a wild, wild place.
Yeah. I mean, kids are crazy. They like in a blink of an eye, they can be gone like two
seconds. So when that many kids are around, it's like terrifying a little bit like Disney,
anything like that, especially with a toddler. The other day I was at target, um, going to find my us weekly magazine cover
and, um, like I had cruise with me and like, he's holding my hand and I take a
video like, well, here we are getting it.
And I let go of his hand for one second, pick up it, pick it up.
And he had darted off running and you know how fast cruise is really fast.
So he darts right into the clothes. It's like hiding underneath like the circular
things with the clothes hanging down. I'm screaming, Cruz, Cruz, Cruz. I'm freaking out,
can't find him. And all of a sudden I started hearing he, he, and I knew it was Cruz. And I
was listening for the laughs. And he was just running around. Yeah. It was terrifying.
He probably had the time of his life. Oh, he thought it was hilarious. Yeah. It was terrifying. He probably had the
time of his life. Oh, he thought it was hilarious. He thought it was a game, but like the sliding
doors aren't that far apart. I was scared he could run out. Like it was just like, that
was the scariest moment for me. Don't you remember being a kid like losing your mom
in the grocery store or like I was my dad or my mom and when Dixie once. And I literally stuck. So they call her over the intercom.
But Chris can't do that. Yeah. So like he's just running around. He's having a game with me. It
was terrible. When I say I was, I was scared to death. I was scared to death. And it was like
within like five seconds. I found him. But I'm scared for that.
Gosh, I mean kids will be like gone.
I let go of his hand for one second.
All of a sudden dark.
Yeah.
He's a fast little boy.
Right into the clothes.
He's fast.
It was, it was crazy.
Okay.
Before we sign off, I'm going to ask Janet a couple of questions from people who wrote
in.
Okay.
This is from hell underscore Cini. Is Janet friends with
Kristen still?
Jenzie Knottington Kristen and I saw each other for the first time
in a while at the premiere party that we had at Jack's bar. And we spoke for a little bit
and we were friendly. Kristen and I look, we've had a long history and we've had a lot of
ups and downs and right now might be a little more of a
down moment. And it's honestly, it's hard to rewatch everything and relive a lot of
the annoyances and arguments and all of that. But at the end of the day, I will always wish
Kristen well. I care about her deeply. Even if she drives me crazy sometimes or I drive
her crazy or whatever it is, I do wish her well. And right now, maybe our friendship is not in the best of place, but we'll see what happens.
I definitely think you guys could get back to some sort of friendship.
We'll see what happens.
I think with time, time heals all.
Who knows?
We'll see.
Hopefully we get a season two.
I'll have to see her then.
To be continued.
Okay.
This is from Casey Ann dot Mick Rosson.
Can you ask Janet to talk about her relationship and how they have prioritized it since the
baby?
Well, Jason, one, I'm the difficult one.
Jason's an angel and he truly is like, every day I'm grateful for him.
He is an amazing
husband and amazing father. Prioritizing a relationship has been hard the last four months
since having a baby. It's something we're definitely like, yeah, having sex is harder.
We've done it, but it's much harder to like, you're like, all right, he's sleeping. Do
we feel like doing it right now or do we want to go to sleep?
And I don't feel the best. my body's still not back to trust me
I get it was my stomach makes me very insecure and Jason
You know tells me that I'm beautiful and makes me feel good, but it's still it's like inside
I you know, I don't feel like you know, that's my biggest struggle. Yeah, I completely get it
So that part's hard
But we try to take time we both of our moms have been super helpful in coming
down and my mom's moving here soon, but she's been here for like a couple weeks at a time.
Jason's mom's flown in. So when grandmas are here, we try to do a date night, even if it's
with other people or whatever, we try to like kind of have a moment and do something fun,
but it's hard. I mean, we're still, I mean, any advice, send it my way because we're still
figuring it out too. And it's, it's difficult.
Yeah, it definitely is difficult. Um, but I think you and Jason are doing a great job.
Like you guys are great parents. I'm so happy for you all. Yeah. I've been the greatest
dad. Oh yeah. And you guys are such cute parents. I love it. All right. One last question. This
is from Kales underscore. Janet, do you agree with Jax saying you are like him when it comes
to stirring the pot?
Oh my God. I have never been more offended in my life. No, I'm just kidding. I mean,
look, I do agree. Jackson and I, and I think everyone in our friend group and all of the
Valley people that you're seeing, all of us like to gossip. I think Jax and I admit it.
Like Jax and I like, we'll like be like, hmm.
You guys are a little bit more louder about it or upfront, like maybe bring things to
just about anything. I think also we're open about it. Like if Jax is like, Oh, I got something
you want to hear it. And I'm like, hell yeah. I do. What'd you, what'd you got? But I also
think there's a difference between fun gossip. Like fun gossip is like, Ooh, did you hear
that? Like Katie and Max slept together? You know what I mean? Like stuff like that. That's like, it's just like fun stuff.
And I think there's also not appropriate things to gossip about,
like people's marriages and when there's kids involved and stuff like that,
that stuff I don't want to gossip about.
And sometimes it gets dragged to kind of right in front of you.
And that part's not fun. So I think it's,
I think everybody in our friend group will, it should admit that they like little fun
gossip stuff. Like I'm not definitely not as much as like,
Jax is definitely the way bigger gossip than I am, but I still like to gossip. Jax likes
to be the first person to tell you something. So if he gets news, I will keep it in no matter
what, but if Jax hears news, he will tell it no matter what.
There's a difference. He loves to be the first person to tell you something.
Exactly.
Like he's done to you many times.
Yes, totally.
So I think Jax and I are similar in that way.
I do think though, Jax has a lot of stuff to work on that were very different in a lot
of ways.
Oh, you're not like the same at all, but like, you know, Jax said that in a interview bite.
So I thought that was a great question.
I was more mad that he called me a silent killer.
I was like, what the hell does that mean?
Oh my gosh.
I'm like, Oh my gosh.
You guys are like, I'm like Jackson, Jackson, Kristen, there's a couple of things that they've
said like that, that we're all pawns and Janet's evil plan and stuff.
And I'm like, damn, like you guys are making me sound like I'm like this evil malicious
person a lot more. I'm like, I don you guys are making me sound like I'm this evil, malicious person a lot
more.
I'm like, I don't have time for that.
I'm like, if I had time to make all these people pawns in my plan, whatever.
Plot it all out.
I'd have them be organized in my closet, cleaning out.
I have a storage unit that needs cleaned out.
If I could control people and make people my pawns, I wouldn't have them destroy things.
I'd have them help me clean it up and doing a bunch of other stuff. That's not how I would use my powers.
Oh my gosh. I love it. All right, Janet, I love having you here.
I love you. This is so fun.
Janet has a new podcast out as well. Tell everybody about that.
It's Jason, Jared Lips and I. It's called This Side of the Hill. It's everywhere that
you can find podcasts, Spotify, Apple podcasts, all that. And it's really fun and it gets released on Wednesdays.
Yes. And your Instagram?
Janet Elizabeth with an X at the end because some old lady has Janet Elizabeth.
Maybe one day you'll be at one take.
One day.
All right. I love you so much, babe.
Thanks for having me.
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