When Reality Hits with Jax and Brittany - Spooky Season Stories and Vanderpump Memories with Tom Schwartz

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

It’s spooky season on When Reality Hits! Brittany and Tom Schwartz share chilling ghost stories—from haunted Victorian houses to eerie sleep paralysis encounters—that will have you sleeping with the lights on. They dive into childhood fears of aliens, Halloween traditions, and even the possibility of vampires in New Orleans. Schwartz reflects on his early Vanderpump Rules days, reminisces about his favorite moment on the show, and clears up the story of how Brittany and Jax first met. Plus, Brittany opens up about her intense experience on Special Forces.Please support the show by checking out our sponsors!Jones Road Beauty: For a limited time our listeners are getting a free Cool Gloss on their first purchase when they use code Realityhits at checkout. Just head to Jonesroadbeauty.com and use code Realityhits at checkout. After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them our show sent you.Nutrafol: Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code REALITYHITS Tempo: For a limited time, Tempo is offering my listeners 60% off your first box! Go to TempoMeals.com/REALITYHITSDiscover Your New Home at apartments.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of When Reality Hits, I have my buddy here, Mr. Tom Schwartz. How are you? That's right. And reality is hitting right now. It is. We are in San Diego. I got both feet on the ground. I'm earthing. See, Britt? You are, barefoot and everything.

I'm feeling all the sensations. I'm very present. I'm right here. I'm anchored to you. It cracks me out. That's your like new thing. It is. But, you know, I'm balanced.

I have harmony. Yeah. Because I still like to fall apart a little bit. It's all about balance. You guys, before we came, before we started, Brittany was showing me scary videos. And we're like, lately my thing is I love going down TikTok and Instagram reels. rabbit holes with like supernatural stuff devil stuff i'm big into aliens have you seen the

have you seen the one you guys sorry for this i'm sorry to start what is it what is it i was going to talk to you about this anyway okay so there's this one and it's i think it's kind of blowing over i haven't got updates lately there's in panama there was a meteorite that crashed and this guy found it and he he's been taking videos it looks like almost like seaweed or something but it's been moving in the sink is that we're talking about it's like an entity and it's growing. Yes. And it looks like it's almost sentient or something. Did you see he released it? He did? Yes.

He went to this like weird like it looked like an abandoned concrete house and there was like water around it that like led to the stairs and he put it in there. Listen if he faked that bravo to him because it looks it's really well done. It moves. It moves. It looks like you have you

ever seen Venom? Yes. It looks like the symbiate? Symbia. I don't know what's called. But that was wild. Well in the movie The symbionate needs a host. It's almost like a virus. It needs a host to thrive. Oh, my God.

And he released it. So, like, my thing is, is, if that was real, wouldn't the government have came and picked it up? For sure. Because it went viral. For sure. So it's like, I can't decide if it's real or not. No. Just because of that.

Like, I feel like they would have came and scooped it up immediately and made him delete the footage. Brittany, I want to believe. I think that we are not the only things. I 100% We are not the only We don't even know what's out there Come on We are not alone

No, we are not alone What's the odds on You know what polygraph is You can pretty much bet on the odds Of anything happening Ever I wonder what the odds Of there being aliens on Earth

They're saying they're under the ocean Now I mean we're only one universe And they say that We know more about Like space right now Than we do our own ocean Which is wild

You guys We can go down that rabbit Yeah we can But I was showing Tom different videos of ghosts that were like caught on tape this morning. It's spooky season. Yeah, it is. I love this time of year.

It's amazing. Britt, I know you love the holidays or the decorations up yet. Brittany goes hard in the decorations. Go hard. I just can't wait for the Halloween party. I've already got it all planned out. It's going to be amazing. I've been planning this for a hot minute.

I just love Halloween. I love Christmas. But you know I grew up in a haunted house, right? You've talked about it. Have you talked about it on publicly? A little bit. A lot of people are always asking. me like tell us more about your ghost stories tell us more about your ghost stories so i feel like

right now it's like the perfect time oh do you believe in ghost yes okay me too so i grew up whenever my mom married my stepdad i was like in the fourth grade and he had lived in this like old victorian house and we moved in there and he said before we moved in the house he never like went there it was a a three story house with also an attic that was like a full attic that had rooms and stuff too so it could have been a four-story house if you would have like redone the attic and it was just very creepy like it was one of those places that you would walk in and you just felt like something was behind you going down the stairs you always you just feel the presence of something and after you know we lived there for a while and we started like all seeing our own things and our own things

were happening to us the TVs would change the water faucets would turn on by themselves like just like random things like that I was a little girl so like even if my mom was like taking a bath I would be in the bathroom with her because I was so scared of the house. So she would be in there and I was like, I remember one time I was just like in the shower curtain and I was just like outside of the tub and I was just like spinning around in the shower curtain and all of a sudden the handles, you can see the knobs turn and the water comes like full on blasting out and I was like ah! And my mom was going, turn it off, Brittany, turn it off, Brittany, turn it off, Brittany, turn it off,

and I was so scared I wouldn't even turn it off. So she had to like get out and go turn off the water faucets. Stuff like that happened all the time. And my stepdad, he said after we all started being like, this place is haunted, this is like scary. Everybody had their own thing. He was like, before you guys moved in, he wouldn't even like go upstairs because he always heard certain things. Like he could hear footsteps all the time. So he stayed on like the middle level where a bedroom was.

And after he told us that, we were like, okay, we know this place is haunted. My sisters had friends that came over before and she went to open the front door. and it like opened for her and she wouldn't come in our house like scary stuff all the time Britt you had me with the fact that you looked at the shower knobs and you could see them turning Yes do you have a vivid memory oh yeah I can remember that I was turning around in the shower curtains and stuff like a little kid just like playing in it with them wrapped around me you know and just like like spinning around has that I'm not going to say haunted you but it's kind of live with you are you is there in the back of your mind are you looking out for paranormal stuff because of that oh yeah like every

I can't sleep without the TV on. I have to have light. I high fived her because for the longest time. Sorry, guys. I was really scared of aliens when I was young. Really scared. And I had to sleep with the TV on. It was the only thing that comforted me.

I thought I was going to get abducted by aliens. Wait, wait. So back to you, though. You thought you were going to get abducted by aliens. It's funny now, but I truly thought I was really scared. I saw a movie called Fire in the Sky. I don't know if I've seen that. It's a really great story.

read it up on it is like it's it's compelling but um it's it's it's scared the shit out of me you guys fire in the sky is it a true story yes oh my gosh it's based on a true story well there's a lot of true stories coming out now and i feel like the more everybody has a recording device on like on them handy that's why we're seeing more and more videos why is it always in fucking low resolution or they're like they're like moving their phone around so much that you can't see anything you know it's like what is going on wait so uh back to your house. Do you remember what age you were? So I think I moved to that house in like third or fourth grade. And I lived there until I was like 15 or 16. So it was like my growing,

like I grew up in that house and it was terrifying. All my friends were scared. Everybody knew that it was haunted. Everybody. And the scariest thing that happened to me is at the top. So where my bedroom was, it was at the very end of the hall. So I would keep my door open because my mom's door was like right there and I was so scared so I wanted to be able to like go to my mom's door if I needed to so I'd always keep my door open and my room was at the very end of the hall so I had a straight shot down to like this little other room that was at the top of the staircase so you could beeline in emergency well but I could also like laying in my bed I could see straight down a long hallway and so I would keep the door open and I swear to you I

am not even lying I woke up one time and I saw a woman in the hall hallway like was it an apparition it was she translucent you could see through her she wasn't like completely translucent but she was there was no color like it wasn't like you could see through her but you could tell it was like a spirit was she hot I don't we couldn't tell I couldn't tell me I knew it was a girl because you could see a flowing dress wait um did she look at you in the eyes it was like all the way down from the other side of the hallway and I freaked out like I was too scared to even get up or do anything and then it was just gone that is truly I'm getting goose and I am not lying I was not a dream I saw it it like happened 100% one time

um in the middle of the night it sounded like a bowling ball was going down our stairs it was all hardwood floors so you can imagine how loud it sounded my stepdad got up with a baseball bat like came in my room, got me, threw me in the bed with my mom, and, like, checked the entire house, and nobody was there. And it was so, so, so loud. I mean, it was terrifying. Another freaking thing that happened, this would be my last part. Keep going. I love that. I was in theater arts class in high school, and it was around Halloween time, so people were telling ghost stories. So I was telling the class my, like, my personal stories. And this guy that was in my class, his grandfather lived across the street from us and he was like I he said I know exactly what you're talking

about he said my grandfather said that there had been a couple times whenever he went outside and he saw a woman standing on your balcony and it was a woman just like what I saw isn't that kind of validating though when you start maybe well you didn't think you're crazy because other people saw what you saw yeah which is because if you're the only one seeing it you start you can convince yourself that you're maybe crazy and a lot of people don't believe it and it's fine whatever but like I know for a fact you know it's like I know for a fact I heard things I saw things

everybody in my family did you can sit here and ask my mom and she will tell you that my house was haunted it's so yes it's so validating when someone else sees it because there's like a level of like empathy and like come back like my dad is like the ultimate no frills no nonsense guy you know he was a detective a cop

he was a St. Paul police department and I remember when him and my mom got divorced my mom moved to South Carolina to Lauren's small little town used to be like a mercantile town and um she she was living in a house that was built around the civil war like 1860 something gosh yeah my house was really old too you looked at it you know when you see a house you're like that looks haunted yeah like half jokingly my mom was living there by herself she is a trooper she had her dogs and she had horses and i remember

one time i went up to visit her because i missed her and me and katie went oh really and we got there me and katie looked at each other's katie's very sensitive to the supernatural stuff she believes too yeah very and she's like this is fucked yeah she was cool about it because we were there to support my mom of course there's a divorce and everything and we got in there and it was like okay it's got a charm to it but i felt like i was in a haunted house within a movie downstairs had good energy actually but it's still spooky yeah you can feel it you but i was still scared yeah and um everything i was like you know it's not so bad i was there with my mom my mom's love is so powerful she is so kind i just she's like this she's like an angel she is she is she is so

so sweet i was like i was like mom you're living here by yourself you could not pay me you'd have to pay me did she have any experiences no she did she tell you she had just like little she just felt like her intuition her spidey senses were tingling but i went upstairs and to this day it's the scariest room i've ever been in my life it was one room with like three single beds i felt like i felt very clinical yeah and like i got like an eerie haunted hospital and because me and katie were supposed to sleep up there. I said, mom, there's not, no fucking chance me, Katie, are sleeping up here. So we dragged down the mattress, a big, actually, no, there was, I think there was one queen and one twin. We dragged down the queen mattress, me, Katie, and my mom, and maybe

one of my brothers was there too. And we all slept in the living room together because I was so scared. Oh my gosh. It's a scariest room I've ever been in my life. And I never forget when my mom and dad tried to get back together at some point, my dad went up there to help her gather her stuff and pack and bring her back to Florida and he stayed there for a couple nights and he told me he's like I've never been so scared in my entire life and he always has a gun on him you know yeah he's like I heard people walking up and down the stairs it's like he was not half asleep he was fully conscious yeah present no alcohol nothing not drunk and he heard a guy walking up and down the stairs so he grabbed his gun and he went up there and he cleared the room

like a cop would yeah there's nobody there nobody and um that spooked man yeah no one ever stayed up there again my sister my sister Natalie you you are a savage she's the only one who's like fuck it bring it on oh my gosh she's such she's so tough was she okay nothing happened she was scared but yeah oh something did happen oh gosh what a fucking scorpion crawled in her bed

and it I think it bit her it did yeah but she was fine yeah like of all the things that happened it wasn't supernatural it was mother nature oh my gosh but still creepy a scorpion yeah no like what does that happen to This day is, sorry, guys, if this is the scariest house I've ever been in life. Well, you have to go to my old house, I'm telling you.

You should put it on an Airbnb, you'd make it killing. Somebody lives in there now, and this is another weird thing about it. There has been, like, two people that have lived there since we did, and my stepdad, he was at Keenland, which is, like, the horse races in Kentucky in Lexington, and he saw the real estate agent, and she said, asked him, she said, is that house haunted? because apparently the people that moved in there right after we did were saying that it was haunted. So it wasn't just us. Wow.

Yeah. That's such a, like, I mean, what do you do? And he was like, yeah, it is. As a real estate agent, what do you, I think you have to give them a heads up. I don't know, but I mean, I'm sure that they said that we said it was haunted. You know, on the way to the farm in Kentucky, I pass that house every time I go home. And if there is ever a time where the new owners are outside, I'm pulling over and talking to them. I'm going to 1,000% It hasn't happened yet

But me and my sister We always say that We're like If they are ever outside We're pulling over And we're going to have a conversation With them and ask them if it's haunted Well it could be a polarizing moment

Because they may be like Oh my God thank you Yes Because we've been freaked out Or they might be like Why the fuck did you tell us that? Yeah It's like whenever my mom moved in

She redid the whole house You know like repainted Re-wallpapered And we you know They always say that that stirs stuff up Yeah So it was just wild Yeah it goes from what

I don't know you guys From what I understand, they don't like when you do a renovation. Yeah, because they want it to be the same as when they live there. Yeah. I hate whenever you're doing your makeup and you're trying to find the best products for you. And it doesn't look natural. It feels like a mask. It feels heavy.

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there's a dumb waiter in every scary movie yes but that's how old that house was have you ever had any supernatural experiences outside of that house oh yeah oh yeah we like my friends we thought like something followed me for a long time like me and my friend linds Andy, after having weird experiences in another house we lived in, we went to this other house and we lived there for two weeks. And I don't have that. What's it called whenever you wake up in the middle of the night and you like can't move? Sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis.

I've never had that before in my life. But after having all these other experiences growing up, I had that whenever I was living with Lindy and I woke up and I couldn't move and I felt something like hand, hand, leg, like crawling in the bed with me. Do you experience a sleep paralysis demon? Yes. It was awful. And it's never happened to me since. It's never happened to me before. And I felt something crawl in the bed with me. And I was laying there and I couldn't move.

And then all of a sudden I was able to sit up and I just screamed. And we moved out after living there for like two weeks. Thank God. That's how scared we were. Thank God. Because she knew I was not telling a lie because I had told her about all this other stuff and she had witnessed like little round. Like her dog would like start barking in the corner at stuff.

and she was like, I've never, she had never had ghost experiences before me, but I haven't had anything in a long time. No, when your dogs or your, God forbid, your kids, start barking, talking to, talking in corners, it's game over. You get the fuck out of there. Oh, my gosh. I cannot believe, all right, we'll move on after this.

Yeah, I cannot, like, it's spooky season. This is perfect. Do you remember the sensation of having whatever that was, like, hold you down or touch you? Oh, it was terrifying. Oh, my God. It was terrifying. And whenever I was able to be, to find,

to say something, I couldn't move or say anything, and I was wide awake. And my TV was on. Catatonic. It was crazy. And then, like, being released, I instantly just set up and was screaming. Because I think I was, like, trying to scream, and I couldn't. Do you know what you did after? Did you run out of the house?

Yes, and we moved out. Like, broke our lease and everything. And we did not have money to be doing all that. That's how scared we were. Wow. Yeah. It was wild. It's crazy when people just...

Well, okay, one last thing. Sorry, guys. So back when you were living in the haunted house, it wasn't that easy. Did you develop a ritualistic, like a routine, like a sort of a superstitious thing? Sleep with the TV on. Yes, always sleep with the TV on. Always had my door open so that I could, like, get to my mom fast if I needed to, like, stuff like that. You had nightlights for sure.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it was just like, it was so scary. I wouldn't be in the room by myself. If my brother was there, my sister was there, like, we were always together. If I got dropped off from school and, like, my mom wasn't there, I would, sometimes I would sit on the front porch and not. go in the house really yes yeah because it was scary to be in there by yourself you know what pisses me off in scary movies when they sleep in silence in pitch darkness oh yeah no no you're just

you're just asking for it put the fucking put some friends on maybe antiques road show but like a happy show on you know what i mean how i met your mother i've got like american dad family guy the brightest thing that you could put on while you're sleeping so that if i wake up it's just like zing the whole room's lit up i'm telling you guys If you're listening to now, by the way, that's the cutest little bird I've ever seen in my life. Oh, the hummingbird. Look how small that bird is. We're sitting outside in the backyard in San Diego.

It's beautiful. We are enveloped by Mother Nature. We're nestled the fuck up. We are in the mountains. I feel like I could reach out and touch that mountain. Yeah, that was like a lime green hummingbird. I'm going to take a picture for when you post this. So you can see, Brett.

Oh, yeah. You told me this a long time ago, but we never talked about it. Yeah, there's a lot. Wow. There's a lot. That's so scary to me. But then we knew it was haunted, and that was like a little. prankster too so like one time um this was something i did to freak everybody out one time um

i like went to the glass and i blew on it and i wrote help me on the window you know how you can go like ha and make it like fog up and i wrote help me with my finger on the window and i just like left it there and then one day like everyone saw it and they were freaking out and i was just like playing pranks after a while because it was so it was so scary you were further terrorizing your family. I would have done the same thing. I think it's like a dark humor coping mechanism. Oh my gosh. We all knew it was haunted. So there was just little things like that that would happen. It was mostly benevolent though. It didn't feel evil, right? No, nothing felt evil. It was just scary. It was a woman though, for sure.

Yeah. And there was just there was other, I could go on and on, but just, no, it was haunted. All right, let's switch gears. Thank you for that. Okay, Andy Cohen. Let's switch gears. Is that what he says? I don't even realize. During the reunions, every reunion. Oh, yeah. Okay, let's switch gears. Let's switch gears. Reunions, man.

Shut out to Andy, he's the goat. He's so good. But that's the hardest thing, reunions, man. Don't even get me started. Longest days ever. You guys, the day, the moment you finish a reunion, it is like, remember the feeling when you graduated high school or like when school's out for summer? Yes.

That's exactly how it feels. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Okay, cool. Yeah. I want to go back to the very beginning. You've been on reality TV for, what, 13 years now? Damn. I guess so.

Yeah. Well, because I came in season four, and I've been doing it for 10 years, so 14 years, I guess. Oh, my God. Like, probably around 14 years for you. My God. That's wild. And I've known you for over 10 years. That's almost half my life. I mean, I'm 42, but that's... It's a long, it's a big part of your life, a big chunk of your life. Go back to the beginning. How did you get started?

I always like to talk to my guests, especially other reality TV. personalities like how did it very start for you like your first time that you knew you were going to be on reality TV well I was very reluctant I've talked about this I think but I was I when you when it started blowing up seasons one and two yeah it became you know it was like a it was a pop culture sensation I think after season two and I was one foot in one foot out and I thought I was like this is going to jeopardize my chances of being a legitimate actor yeah yeah that was the mindset back then and by mind you i had never gone on one theatrical audition but i was booking commercials and i was working and i was making progress yeah and i'm i was self-aware enough to know that i was

never going to be like a star or anything but in my mind i thought i could be a working actor that's all i wanted to be i didn't want to be famous yeah i wanted to be on like c s i miami that was my dream oh i wanted to be on a procedural show and it still is my dream you guys put me on Tom put me out a fucking procedural maybe even a soap opera I don't know I've been I've done background on soap operas I couldn't do those pacings like it's a

do they have to memorize like a page and a half no like five pages of dialogue a day oh my gosh they're machines yeah it's like a good boot camp if you want to be an actor yeah and you make a good um you make so we I remember I used to do background with jacks actually yeah and we would do

uh at CBS Studios rate and uh right by the Grove in LA and um it was great because it was $200 and you'd be there for two hours and you could still hit all your other additions and maybe work at night that was one of my favorite jobs ever

just doing a bunch of background stuff it was so fast but how did you get started on Benner Pump rules like how did the I went on a tangent yeah so yeah I was in LA I was doing my thing I was like doing I was never

I was doing print work and bartending and just doing every job I could take I never said no to a fucking job I had no I had no ego at all I worked every fucking shitty job you can imagine Yeah, I love it.

So I was doing my, and I was starting to make progress. And then the show happened. We don't have to go through the genesis of the show. And, you know, I was dating Katie and all of my best friends were on this show. And I was like, wait, these are, and like, I didn't care at first. I was like, this is not my thing. I'm an actor, but I'll let them do their thing. And I saw what was happening.

I saw the momentum. I saw how much fun they were having. Yeah. I saw the doors being opened for them. And the cool opportunities, I think, I swear, like, one of the turning points was like, they went, they got paid to go to Las Vegas. And it was like the whole cast And I think they got $1,000 each And they got free rooms

And I was like, holy shit But that thing That like changed my mindset I was like oh my God This could be a thing Yeah And then I saw them going to New York Watch what happens live

Yeah, it's fun And then I think around season three I sat down with my manager And I was like He's like dude We're just like popping in and I never really Went back and watched this first couple seasons I was like a friend of

Okay So you were just like in and out I would pop in with a dumb line here and there Season two I was pretty involved And then season three I made some unfortunate mistakes in my relationship And I kind of got thrust or thrown into the lines then And I just never looked back

I was like I sat down with my manager And he's like dude just pick He's like either do it or don't do it I'm tired of you being neurotic And like I don't know I don't know He's like look at your acting career Not to be a dick You haven't made a lot of progress

He's like why don't you just go for it And see what happens And I did and then I never looked back. And I was lucky enough for Bravo to embrace me to some extent. Exactly. To give me a chance because pretty much the best job ever. Yeah.

I mean, we get to hang out with our friends. It's so cool. Yeah. You know? It's the best job in the world. And it's hard, but it's amazing too. When you're dissecting painful things in your life, it sucks in the moment, but I think long term it's therapeutic.

You can grow from it. Like, especially me, like everything I went through last season, like I have grown so much. And I can watch myself back and be like, wow. I went through a lot. Wait, you watch yourself back? You're sick. Like, we have to before start reunions, okay? We all do it, yes.

But still, you can watch yourself and you can learn from your mistakes. A lot of people don't get to do that, you know? People ask me a lot. What's it like watching yourself on TV? I hate it. The only analogy I tell everybody, I was like, you know when you hear your voice on an answering machine? I hate it.

Think of that times 30. Yes, exactly. Your whole essence. Yes. And you're just like, ew. The way you look, your faces you make, like. The way you, your posture. Yes, your posture.

The way my voice sounds. Yes. The things I say. Yeah. Oh, my God. Or if you get drunk and you have a drunk face. And you're like, well, how did I do that? You guys, not long ago, I finally went back and rewatch my whole bachelor,

Bachelorette party. Oh, my gosh. I? Tom. Why did you guys tell me I was a douchebag? Oh, my God. Tom. You were the ugliest girl ever on that trip.

I was the ugliest woman to ever exist. also I was literally I self-sabotaged because I was sad and I was going through instead of talking it out like a fucking grown man That was a very odd Batcharette party Batcher Bachelet party

We were in New Orleans Things were fun But you guys were fighting the whole time No it was actually one of my Ironically one of my favorite trips In my entire life But it was like not watching it back I was like man I was such an asshole

But I also had the There was a lot of fun moments We had fun times but then there was a lot of like what's happening times I compartmentalized like I was like yeah anyways so I broke it You being on the toilet and Sanofal kicking open the door and when he say

look at him he's a what do you say exactly? A batter wife A batter wife That's like one of the most iconic things because he's wearing like a skull cap for you're sitting on with the sashion. You weren't deranged we had been drinking all day Oh no but it's like hilarious

And also like I was like we would sneak off and drink like hand grenades if you I've ever been to New Orleans, you know what those are. Yeah. Like, things like that, and we were getting after it. I remember, I actually remember being on that toilet. Everyone thinks I was pooping.

I wasn't. You were just chilling, right? No, I was, I was, like, really drunk and sad, and I think I brought a cocktail in there, and I just wanted to decompress. By yourself. Yeah, I was like, the only place I felt safe. But, like, the way it happened so perfectly, like, the way he kicked the door open and he were just sitting there. Like, that is hilarious. I'm so sad that I lost my entire camera wall from that trip.

I don't have one picture from it. Oh, I want. wonder if I do. It's, um, we, because we had, there's so much other fun stuff that happened off the camera. Yeah, we had fun stuff. Remember we did, like, haunted house tours and stuff? Yeah, well, you guys did the girls did. Yeah, we did. And Stasi used to live there. Yeah. Did you tour her old house too? We didn't tour her old house, but we went to like a restaurant that she used to love that was like all fancy and cute and we did really fun things. Apparently there's vampires in Norland. I know. Wild. I love it. We need to get one on the

podcast. Uh, I know. Give me, is there any vampires out there who would like to come on podcast but the thing about being a vampire is you have to live forever and that sounds horrible oh my gosh i don't want to be immortal fuck that i'm talking out when i'm like 85 90 i'm good it'd be so sad to like to lose everyone you loved you know like my goodness you're gonna get bored eventually this is definitely a Halloween episode oh my god you're gonna get sick of friends you're gonna yeah you're gonna have to be like everything's gonna change dramatically like flying cars and all this a i's taking over it's gonna be wild it's a couple years.

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whenever I very first met Jax. I actually met you before I met Jax. And I want you to clarify this, because there are so many rumors out there that I went into his D.C.'s. and I chased him and I did this and I did that. Schwartz, tell the world what happened. Okay, this is the way I remember. Okay. Just mind you, I have a horrible memory. Oh, gosh.

That's genetic and, you know, I did a lot of drugs when I was a kid. But, no, we were at the Golden Spike. Yeah. We were downtown Las Vegas, one of my favorite places. When you're at Vegas, don't neglect downtown. Go to Fremont, some of the best people watching in the world. I mean that respectfully. It's just weird.

in the best possible way. Yeah, it's amazing. I love Fremont. Golden Spikes is a big bar. They have all kinds of outdoor games, and it's just a whole ass vibe. And Jacks, I was there with Jacks, Katie. Was Tom there?

I don't think Tom was there. What were we doing there? I don't really know. I was there to visit Kara. I might have been doing, we might have been doing an appearance. Oh, it was Sheena's birthday. Oh, was Sheena's birthday?

Yeah. Because Kara's birthday is May 5th and Sheena's is May 7th. And then we went down to Golden Spy because we love Fremont. And then I was with Jackson. He was with this chick or this woman. So I don't want to be distressed. He was at this woman.

He was digging her. I don't remember her name. And then he saw you. And he locked eyes on you. And he's like, who is that? And I was like, I don't know. And I think this is the way I remember. I think he's like, I want to meet her.

I want to meet her. And I'm like, well, what about your? He's like, I don't care. I don't forget her. Like symbolically, you just was like, yeah. Brashed her aside. And then I think Katie made the introduction. Yeah.

So, yeah. but I'm just glad you remember that because I hate like the rumors that swirl around that like I chased him I did not. Jackson initiated it. Exactly. Well, what happened was as I was there with Kara, my best friend, it was her birthday as well. She lives in Vegas. So we were at the same bar and she saw Katie because she actually watched the show but I hadn't. So she said to Kate, she asked if she could take a photo with Katie. So I took a photo of her and Katie together. I remember that. Yes. And I took a photo of her and Katie together and we just started talking to Katie and she was just so cool. And you came over, and Katie was like, where are y'all from? Because me and Kara both have, like, thick accents. So we just started talking with you guys. And then you were like, let's go take a shot. So me, you, Kara, and Katie all went to the bar and took a shot. And that's whenever Jacks came up to me.

Yes. Yeah. And I remember him like, and I don't remember what he said. And Katie was like, she's too nice for you. She's too sweet for you. No, because he was locked in on you. I think that was a love at first sight scenario. He was jealous because another guy was trying to flirt with me.

And we had just met that night. The same. He was literally getting possessive the first night And you had like one conversation Exactly That was a testament to because he you know He was locked in on you Yeah

Well I'm just glad that you can clear that up Because I'm sick of people saying things That are not true about me No I can confirm that I remember that vividly Oh my goodness What did you think when you first met me I thought you were like this little southern bell

Not to underestimate to make you. Yeah. I don't mean that in a belittling way. Oh, I don't think it that way. I just had never met. I never, I've had some Southern, I have Southern friends, but I never met someone like you. You were just like this little peachy keen, cool. You just like, you were radiant and like you just seemed so happy and you were a vibe. Oh, thank you. You were, um, you had a, you had a Southern charm. Thanks. That I had, that I wasn't really familiar with and it caught me off guard and it was very, uh, charming. Thank you very much. No, I remember being charmed by you. like, wow, she's got something. You had an it factor. Oh, thank. Which I'm a sucker for it factor. It's that unidentifiable thing that just makes someone special in their own unique way. You had an it factor.

Oh, thank you, Tom. Yeah, and I was like, I remember, oh, whatever, we don't have to go into that. I just remember being like, yeah, she's special. Oh, I love you. Yeah, I love you too. I've always connected with you since the very beginning. I know. You're such a good guy.

Yeah, you're a good girl. Thank you. I did love. I can't believe how long we've been friends. Yeah, over 10 years. We've been through some. shit yeah you guys didn't even know like a lot you guys don't even know there's a lot of things that we're not documented on TV that we have been through that we can't talk yeah exactly that we

won't talk about but just imagine just imagine the things what would be if you could pick one memory from the 14 years you've done reality TV what would be your favorite thing that you ever filmed my wedding it's not even close yeah and it's it's not me like clinging to old memories of course not it's just i i mean katie are so respectfully and happily separated but i it's it was the it was one of the best days of my life it was beautiful it was just everything was perfect it felt like a dream yeah i know that sounds like a cliche and it's maybe i'm even selling it short but it just felt like a fantasy yeah everything there's like the lighting of the day the temperature yeah the trees it just we everything all my friends were in the best moods ever that was a good day

I stayed up all night. We watched the sunrise. It's also the most hungover I've ever been in my life. Really? And that's saying something. Worse than New Orleans. Oh, gosh. I thought like we were like binge drinking or anything crazy.

It's just the consistency throughout the night. Yeah. We drank till seven in the morning. Yeah, we just stayed up all night long. I have a picture of Katie the moment she opened her eyes after our wedding. And I can't show it because she said if I ever do, she'll, she'll marry me and then divorce me again. But no, I remember being so happy. That was one of the happiest moments of my life

Because I just so many things were going well for me Yeah I had a lot of good things happening at once And I remember after the wedding The feeling of just like for the next week That's all I have to do Is go home, pack And they go to Bora Bora and enjoy my honeymoon

And then meet up with Stasi Yeah I was going to say that Stasi showed up And third wheeled your honeymoon That's hilarious We asked her to because the thing is me Katie really leaned to do it It was romantic AF

Yeah. It really was special. You had a couple days by yourself before. No, I think we had like five days. Yeah, yeah. And it was so perfect. Like, heaven on earth.

It's beautiful, but there's not much to do. You get bored. Yeah. Have you been to bore or more? I haven't, but I've been to like other places where there's not much to do and it's gorgeous and it's supposed to be so romantic.

And then you're like, what do we do now after a couple days, you know? Yeah. Can we, like, it's awkward to talk to other people because everyone was on their honeymoon. Yeah. Every single person. Yeah.

And I remember, I know we've talked to this. I remember me. Katie when we were leaving I was so sad I felt like like truly sad in my heart I was so bummed out to leave and then we felt so bad leaving Stasi behind and she's she's like I'll be fine because she booked she paid all this money she traveled across the world and she was going to stay at extra few days I was like so you're just going to stay and borough borough by yourself she's like yeah she's like I think I'll be okay and then I remember like a day later she's like I think I got

proposition for a threesome by a Russian couple oh no oh my gosh something like that it was Yeah. No, Stasi tells the story so good. Oh, my goodness. Well, I did a thing called Special Forces. Yeah, you did. And it was special. It was special.

So, last night, Thursday, the 25th, the first episode of Special Forces came out. The first and the last for me. She's a one-hit wonder, baby. One-hit wonder. That was the hardest thing. physically that I had ever had to do and I was not prepared but you but going in you were committed right I was committed it wasn't like yes I left quickly but I really wanted to prove something to myself and everybody's been saying like for the most part other than a couple

asshole trolls on the internet like even just going there and trying is something it's something because every single thing you do is so hard when we were on the bus on the to our first thing before they put the bags over our heads we were shaking i was shaking like a leaf they're screaming at us and like you know our bus is getting taken over and all this stuff and they're like put your head down put your head down put your head down and you can't like look at them i was shaking so hard and then they put the bag over our heads and we had to lay on the on the ground it's like 105 degrees we're in morocco okay it was so hot we're in regular clothes i'm about to have a panic attack with this bag over my head and we're laying on the ground luckily with this

bag over my head i was able to like put my chin down to my chest and get a little air pocket because if i didn't have that little tiny air pocket i would have i think i would have had a panic and i would have had to have let the end the very first freaking task but it was jarring because they really suspend your reality right oh it's not like you do a scene hit a beat and then they run out with like a smoothie do your makeup it's raw no no no No, raw, raw, raw. They're yelling at you the whole time. And, of course, I get number one.

So I'm having to lead the freaking thing. I'm breathing so hard. I'm shaking like a leaf. It was crazy. And then they like pull off my head. And he's like talking to me. And he's like, nice blouse. Because I was wearing like a purple shirt.

Some big dainty. I was trying to be respectful because in Morocco, like you don't, you're not supposed to show that much skin. So I wanted to wear like long sleeves. normally you know how I dress I've always got the boobs out all this stuff like I was trying not to do that and he's like nice blouse and then they're we're rolling around in the mud and Q's like the princess on the end I'm like cute has called me a princess. You do have princess energy oh my god but I went in there thinking I'm going to prove everybody wrong I'm going to do this I'm going to do that and me okay as you know heights are just

awful for me. I cannot be on a balcony. I can't look over something. Ziplining even is like terrifying. I think my knees are going to collapse. Like I don't mind roller coasters, anything like that, but being on a balcony looking down, I hate like whenever you're in a hotel and like the inside is hollow and the rooms are around the outside and you have to like go up high. I have to like scale the wall. Like I am terrified of stuff like that. Elevators that are glass. Like I hate that kind of stuff. I don't mind heights, but standing on a balcony in a hotel is terrifying. Terrifying. And I don't like helicopters either. So for me to get up in that helicopter and rappel down, even though my arm got caught

and I was dangling for a minute, 100 feet up in the freaking air. Mama was dangling. I was dangling. I still did it. And I'm still proud of myself. I did not do great. I was gone in one day. But that was like the hardest thing I had ever done.

I was not like physically prepared. You don't have that much time to prepare. It's not like I could work out for like months and months and months to get ready for this. Like it was a quick turnaround. What was the turnaround? Like, I maybe knew for like two months, if that. Okay. So you had some time to like prepare mentally.

Yeah, a little bit, yeah. But it was just like, I think people forget that I was also in a rough time of my life. Like I was going through a lot. Like, this was recorded, filmed months ago, you know. So I was in a very rough spot in my life. And I was like, I'm going to go in here. This is going to be great. Blah, blah, blah.

And I think, you know, they're doing their job, the DS. they're yelling at you and you know that's what they're supposed to do i think for me coming out of a toxic relationship it did the opposite like it didn't motivate me it like triggered me and upset me and i didn't i didn't like think that was going to happen to me i fully thought i was going to be like able to handle it because of everything i've been through like tough love yeah i was like i got this i could do this like even if they're yelling at me instead i was like it's not motivating me like they would yell at me and i just be like i know i know i know you negative reinforcement was not the move. It was not the move for me. I know

that's their job. I know that's what they do in the real special forces in the Army, but that was just not the way to go for me at that moment of my life. No, Britta, I'm watching your episode. Roll it around. You had the general like disposition of a kid who got sent to a camp they don't want to be at.

You look like you got sent to the gulag. You're just like, you looked pretty miserable. It was so hard. It was so hard. I know your facial expression. You just looked not happy. I was like, what did I get myself into? And it is a learning experience for sure. Like, even though I didn't say very long, I still pushed myself to do things. I never

thought I would do. I got to experience Morocco. I got to be around this amazing cast. And, you know, it was a very, very awesome experience that I would never take for granted. Like, it was so cool. Who did you trauma bond? Who did you bond with the most? Like, Teresa Judice was like, me and her jumped out of the helicopter together. Like, we were praying. I was crying. Like, it was like a whole thing it was wild she was your ride or die yeah she was like helping clean my face off and doing all this stuff and like fixing my hat for me i mean but you found comfort in her i did and um i knew a lot of the cast like you don't know who's on the show with you until you get to the course yeah but i had met like sean and andrew before like we did a job together um as with s a

lauder at stage coach so i spent like a whole stagecoach weekend with her jesse james decker and Eric Decker are like very close to them. So they came to the stagecoats. So I got to meet them then too. Randall Cobb used to play football for UK. Yeah. So I've known him for years. Oh, shit.

Yeah, he used to play for Kentucky. My mom sold him his very first furniture for his first apartment in Lexington. And he remembers that. So I hadn't met him. Of course, Teresa and Gia, Jude Lice are part of the Bravo family. Was anybody, I know we're very similar. So we don't talk shit on podcasts, but was there anybody that was kind of mean to you? I was not there long enough for anybody.

be mean to me. Everybody was super nice and like there's a freaking Nick Young and Andrew East of a professional basketball player and an NFL player are carrying me. I have a freaking heel in the desert in Morocco because I was about to die. Like who would I ever thought that would be my life? That's so funny. I did I did a show called Stars on Mars and it was more it was it was fun. It wasn't nearly as intense.

It was kind of more like lighthearted and stuff, you know? I still had fun. But you know what? It was so, like, after I left, I felt very disappointed myself that I left. I was crying after I left. Like, I was like, and I kept apologizing to production because, like, I was out there in Morocco and I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

And they were like, Brittany, most people won't even come on this show. And they were so nice to me. They were like, most people will not do it. Your heights is your biggest fear and you did that. Like, you should be proud no matter what. They said, most people will relate to you that your legs were. feeling like jello that you couldn't move anymore yeah like most people will relate to that like like i was like thank you because i felt so guilty and and i really tried but it was just like

it was just too much i was not in the right place in my life to like push through that that makes so much sense yeah i think we're similar in that if you ask me a brit to do a show we i'm gonna commit a hundred percent i did but also if i'm the first person gone i'm gonna pop bottle champagne I'm not going to cry I'm not going to be sad about it Did you treat yourself afterwards So afterwards Because we are not in trailers

We are in nothing like that Like we are in a base camp We are in the heat There is nothing But once you're off the show You go to like the production trailers And I was sitting in there And I saw like the lineup

Of what they had to do As soon as they got back They were like macing each other And I was like Thank the Lord My prayers works Like woo whew Jesus

Thank you for hearing me out on this one. Thank you so much. That would have been miserable. And, you know, there's so much more to come. Like, they did amazing. Like, everyone else, like, that is such a hard thing to do. That show is intense. So I'm proud of them.

I also felt a lot of guilt because I was, like, the last one to, like, finish the challenge. And then my team, like, lost. So then we had to run back to base. And the other team got to, like, take the vans back to base. And I just, like, couldn't do it anymore. And I felt so guilty. and the pressure of like feeling like I let my team down really got to me. Are you allowed to have your phone?

No. So once you get, like, we're sequestered in a hotel for like seven days before we even get to the course because there's starting like safety trainings that you have to do, of course, you know. But you are not allowed to see who else is on the show. So you're all in your own hotel rooms, like you can't go anywhere, blah, blah, blah. So I was able to like call crews and everything like that. But as soon as you get to the course, you don't have your phone. They put it all in lockers and give it to you once you leave the course.

And you don't get it until you leave the show? Yeah, and you can't bring anything either. Oh, hell no. Yeah, it's like, it's wild, but I was only there for one day, so I didn't have to worry about it too much. And you had to poop outside? Yeah, I mean, I didn't even make it to base. Oh.

You guys. Wait, this is so. I can laugh about it now, but I'm telling you, that was hard, and I'm so proud of everybody because I've seen, like, in the previews, more tasks that they had to do, and I don't even know how they did it. So they are all beast. If you've been listening to my podcast or following me on Instagram for a while, you already know that I love NutraFol. It is absolutely amazing.

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Hi, I'm Adam Rippon, and this is Intrusive Thoughts, the podcast where I finally say the stuff out loud that's been living rent-free in my head for years. From dumb decisions to awkward moments, I probably should have kept to myself nothing. off limits. Yes, I'm talking about the time I lost my phone mid-flight and still haven't truly emotionally recovered from that. There might be too many sound effects. I've been told to chill. Will I? Unclear. But if you've ever laid awake at night, cringing at something you said five years ago, congratulations, you found your people. Intrusive thoughts with Adam Rippon is available now wherever you get your podcasts. Did you, wait, so did you say, I'm going to go on a little vacay in Morocco, or did you just go back home after?

I just, I wanted to see Cruz. I had never been gone from him more than three, two to three nights, and that was the hardest part. Like, not only did the yelling kind of trigger me, but like being away from my son, it's something I just couldn't handle. I just know on that way back home, I know you had a lay-down seat. Oh, yeah. I know you had a nice, bloody marriage, and you just passed out with a nice scary movie.

But it was like 18. I think on the way back it was almost 20 hours because there wasn't a straight flight. So you have to fly somewhere and then fly. It was the longest flight ever. You know what I did after, I got eliminated early on the show stars on Mars? And afterwards, I was like, I'm in Australia. I'm not just going to fly back home. I was like, guys, I talked to everyone in production and my handler.

I was like, I'm going to go on a trip. So I took a coin. I flipped it. And I think it was heads. I go to Sydney, Tails Melbourne. Oh, cool. And landed on Sydney. So I went and had three of the best days of my life by myself.

By yourself. It was so fun. I went to all the coolest bars and restaurants I met so many people and I had like it just sometimes I like a good solo trip I want to go to Australia so bad that's one place I really want to go

I've never been They're gonna love you there Oh my God I would love to go there It's insane it's so fun I had so one of the best places I've ever been in my life I'm trying to line up look a little tour Any excuse to go back to Australia

We love you Yeah Brittany can we want a tour Let's go Oh my God Let's go let's put our podcast together Go on tour together 100% But overall, you feel good about the experience?

I feel great about the experience. It wasn't for me, but I'm proud of myself that I tried, and I'm so proud of everybody else. Everybody was so cool. And it was an experience that it's something I never thought I would do. I never thought I would be in Morocco. I never thought I would be training like a special force. It was, like, it was wild. What was the best part and the worst part?

Oh, gosh. The best part was like just meeting everybody and, like, you know, It was just, you're in, yeah, the camaraderie, and just being in a place like Morocco and taking it all in and just seeing like how it actually works. And, you know, it's just something you can't like really imagine unless you're doing it yourself, you know? What was worse? Your haunted house in Kentucky or special forces. I'm just kidding. Oh, my God.

I mean, I think. Different. Yeah, very, very different. It was a great experience. I'm not taking it for granted at all. Like I said, it just wasn't for me. I did try even though I left early It was like we had to run back to base

And I just had nothing left to give And I just felt so guilty for letting my team down And I felt the pressure And I just like was crying and everything And I was like I just can't do anymore I miss my baby blah blah I gotta go And I just took off my armband And I left

You put yourself out there though I did I tried You said yes to the great unknown And everybody who is listening Who is like oh she was only there for one day I want to see you do it. I want to see you jump out of a helicopter. I want to see you roll around the mud.

I want to see you in 105 degrees and see how well you do running up and down these mountains. Like, it was hard. No. It was hard. Just the, like to set the tone, the bag over the head is really scary. It's scary. You're not thinking, at that point, you're not thinking I'm on a TV show getting paid. You're like, holy shit.

I was shaking, Tom. And if I didn't find that little air pocket, like I said earlier, I don't even know. I might have left right then. It was scary. It was so scary. Wait, what was the worst part? I mean, it was, I think like... Missing your baby.

Yeah, that was the worst part for sure. But if I think of like a challenge, like all the challenges were hard, but the heights was always going to be like the hardest thing for me. But the fact that I overcame it and I did it, I was so proud of myself. Even though I didn't do it gracefully, I hung on the side from my arm for a while. You dangling. I tangled. How was the food? But I tried.

Food? I didn't even make it to base. Oh, yeah. She never made it past craft services. I ate a chicken Caesar rapping more to the jeeps. That's so funny. But still, proud of everybody else. I'm going to keep watching to see, like, what else that they did.

But, you know, I did try. And don't judge unless you could do it yourself. That's all I got to say. What if you were like, Brett, we loved you so much last season. When did you come back? Would you do it again? I would like to, if I had time, I would, like, really try to get in shape. I was not in shape.

I was not good. It was just physically. It was too much for me. there with professional athletes Olympic gold medalist like it just was I just I knew I was going to be the underdog going in and I proved it

self-fulfilling prophecy but still it was a great experience and I'm so grateful that they picked me to do something like that you know it's still something that I would never have gotten to do you know it's a huge honor like you see the caliber of people they have on there very successful people it was amazing you're in good company yeah

it's it feels good to be surrounded by great people. Exactly. And everybody was awesome. I hope they didn't hate me too much after I left because they were probably like, this bitch was the reason we left and then she doesn't even have to get maced because she left before. Like I can only imagine. But still, so proud of them. They did amazing. And we all have a group chat together. Like, it's super cool. You do? Yeah. We had a group chat together too. Yeah. I'm still, I still talked to Tallulula. I was on the show. Oh, yeah. Some of my other friends and so, yeah, it's cool. It's a cool experience. And,

And I'm grateful I did it. I wasn't great at it, but, you know, I tried. You did something. I tried. Before I let you go, Tom, there's two questions that I ask everybody on the podcast. Let's bring it. What is your favorite reality TV show? Ever?

Ever. Probably inside the actor's studio, but that's not really, that's more of an interview show. Yeah, reality TV. I'm just Bravo? Any. It doesn't have to be Bravo. Okay, I really like Housewives of Salt Lake City, which is so hot right now. Yeah.

I like watching. random old episodes of housewives of Beverly Hills when LVP was on there Shout out to Lisa Hi Lisa I like Southern Charm a lot I love

I fucking love the Summer House cast They're my friends You've been on there a couple times I have yeah By the way I'm slutty Throw me on a show Let's see But outside of Bravo

My okay I really like Let me think here I like Antiques Roadshow a lot I know that's not really Where we're going here But it's the reality I like what am I thinking hold on wait you say one while I jog my memory I love like 90 day

fiance oh they're hilarious I miss the boat on that oh they're hilarious um I like I like um love on the spectrum oh love on the spectrum is the best reality TV show in the world it's got so much hard it is it is I cry every episode but it's happy tears and I suggest anyone who wants to really take a look into autism watch that show watch that show watch the magic the nuance. Watch how happy everyone is. Watch how amazing the families are. Like the support. Like I, whenever my

dad and my stepmom Linda came to visit me, we watched it all together and they learned so much just from that because my whole family is trying to learn about autism. You know, it's the first cruise is, you know, going through this with Cruz, everybody is trying to learn as much as we possibly can. It's still new for us. I'm going to make mistakes along the way. I'm still learning as I

go. But watching that show, like even opened their eyes and like made them like learn some different things. I think everybody needs to watch that show. I think it did a great job. Humanizing for people who will lack education or I've put autistic people in a box or look at it as like a disease.

It's not. No, exactly. And the most beautiful minds. Oh my God, that show is amazing. That has to be my favorite. I said a 98 fiancee, but love on the spectrum. Love on the spectrum. Oh, okay. Sorry, I'm rambling. My first, my most current favorite one is Bachelor in Paradise. Oh, you love Bachelor in Paradise? I don't really like the Bachelor and Bachelor. I'm not going to lie. But Bachelor in Paradise

is lighthearted. It's well edited. It has like these little like cinematic like edits and stuff and it's cute and funny. I like that. And let's see, what else? That's plenty. You like a lot. Okay. Last question. Who is your favorite reality TV star?

Of all. You only get to pick one. Probably You know I'm a sucker for Lisa Vanderpump. I really like Andy Cohen. Can I say Yeah, sure. I love Andy. Yeah. He's such a good host.

He's OG icon. His ability to interview, like, me or you. Anybody. And then have, like, Will Ferrell or, like, freaking Oprah or, like, Lady Gaga. That's a good point. I like, he's just, he's so versatile and he's, like, so genuine. He comes in. Yeah.

He hugs you. Says, what's up. Checks in on your family. Amazing. But, like, let's, let's wait before. Okay. Favorite reality star. I'm trying to think, honestly, I think my favorite.

like reality show ever we already talked to like or real i liked ozzy osborne i like the osborns yeah yeah it's probably my favorite like reality show ever yeah okay um i loved the osborne's rest in peace yeah um yeah amazing i like in yeah anyways i love i love i've loved having you on today it was so fun you are so fun and you're such a great guy and thank you for coming on i love you i love you tell everybody where to find you and about your podcast all right you guys i do a podcast now and i love podcasting i listen to 50 fucking podcasts um it's called detox retox so it's like one week we kind of nourish the mind body soul we get it together but we get it together so we can fall apart and not in a toxic way because the next week we let loose we don't feel bad about feeling

good and it's it's slightly educational it's not the freaking huberman lab but it's like it's informative 101 reminder refresher courses on things it's essentially me doing cool shit with cool people seeking harmony love it and um i'm gonna have you back on there yes i'll come on anytime we'll do something crazy like some DMT or something yes everybody your instagram handle my instagram handle is at tw s C-H-WA um yeah check out my podcasts it's available wherever you get podcasts and um yeah man uh amazing appreciate you thanks for coming on and thanks everybody for listening to another episode of When Reality Hits. I'll see you next week.

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