Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (sometimes) - Rosanna Arquette

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

Rosanna Arquette is a truth-teller, whether she’s conveying the emotional truth of a character or speaking out against injustice in the world. She talks to Ted Danson about how singlehood has changed her, the activist streak in her family, her childhood encounter with Martin Luther King Jr., how coming out against Harvey Weinstein impacted her, and more.    Like watching your podcasts? Visit http://youtube.com/teamcoco to see full episodes.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

because I have been alone and haven't even dated and, you know, like, been celibate. I know. Okay. And it's weird, but powerful. Yeah. Welcome back to where everybody knows your name. I am really excited to talk with Rosanna Arquette today. I've always found Rosanna to be an impressive, thoughtful person, one who sees her art as inseparable from service to others, much like the family she comes from. I couldn't wait to talk to her about.

that and also her new movie that she's starring in alongside Charlie XCX. It's called A Moment and it's out now. Here she is, Rosanna Arquette. My belly button and my family is a source of great humor because... Do you have an Audi? A big Audi? I do now. It's really one of the worst things that's happened to me. Did you have a hernia? You have a hernia? I did, yes, and that's just not fair. but more on this later. Sorry. I'll interview you. No, please.

I know. I listened to your podcast. We're going to come back to that. Well, that's a long time ago. God, I know, but I want to talk about it anyway at some point. But Mary has been known to. Where's Woody?

He's making a movie? Do you see the last word there? Sometimes. There you go. It used to be a parentheses. Because he lives in Hawaii anyway, right? Hawaii, Austin. And he genuinely moves

around the world with great ease and films and shoots and visits and I miss them very much. But L.A. is a little tough on his soul. I'm so I moved to the East Coast, so I'm only here just for, my daughter had a premiere last night so I'm staying at my sisters. And so yeah. That is so cool. Shoot, before you came, I was going to just do names again, but Zoe. Zoe Blue. Yes. Zoe Blue is my daughter and she's coming out in the movie Dracula. She's the lead. I saw a clip.

Unbelievable. Yeah, she's an really incredible actress. And so we went last night, Patricia and I were her auntie and her mama and her nephew were there to support her. It was cool. This was the premiere? Last night, yeah, at the Chinese theater. Oh, my God. It was a big fun moment.

Big Hollywood. Yeah. She's gorgeous. I just saw clips, obviously. A lot of people confuse her with Lily. Lily. You're Lily. Yeah.

My daughter Kate and Mary's daughter Lily. Yes. Yes. No, but no, Lily who's married to... Lily Collins, who's married to your beautiful... We'll talk about your goddess wife. Her son... Her son is married to Lily Collins, and a lot of people confuse them.

Can I just quickly do? Here's our family. Mary had two children, Lily and Charlie. Lily. Lily met a man named Charlie and got married. Charlie met a woman named Lily and got married. So we have two Charlie and Lily. That's so fantastic. We just called Charlie's end of the family, the Collins is. It helps us. Yeah. Yeah. Lily Collins, who is magnificent. Yes, she is a good girl. I've known her parents for way before she was born. Wow. Very cool. Yep. Bill. Yeah. Yeah. He's doing great. He's doing okay right now. He's better. Great's not probably the right word was way better. Way better.

Yeah, yeah. I spoke to him the other day. Tell him I said hi. I haven't seen him in years, but and Jill, the mama, we used to be quite close years ago. Years ago. This is a rock and roll years ago. Very cool. So many things just came up that I wish I could remember where to jump in here.

But usually I see you at Jane's, Jane Fonda's house, surrounded by incredible. incredibly bright people. And I, over the years, watch every cool, outstanding woman make a bee line for you to talk with you. And that would be my wife as well. And I know. And she sends her love. She's so amazing. So we kind of bonded in a moment of being seated at the Monaco Film Festival or something. We were both there. And she told me about her, like, incredible gift that she got where she's music comes to her and she's a songwriter. To me, that was like, like, God, like, wow. Like, I wish, that is the neatest thing.

Yeah, and she kept it up. And she does it. And it's a real gift that she has. So I, of course, bonded with the music thing. And I just, she's just always been beautiful to watch on a film. And she just has a great energy. And then Jane, who I've known since I'm 19 through the years. And then they, they, she grabbed you and go, I need to know you.

Yeah. Yeah. When I was a kid. And I fortunately did come from a politically active family, so it was perfect. But I just had my resist shirt on today, and I went to get an MRI. So I had to take it off, but I thought it was a perfect thing to wear today. But I ended up changing. Oh, so much to talk to your body. The First Amendment, right? The Committee for the First Amendment. Yeah, but let's back up one second. Because you are in my brain and everybody. and, you know, you're an actor-activist. And we can talk about both in it.

I really get more delight out of talking about your activism or anybody's activism. Me too. But your career is astounding, and all the films you've made are astounding. They are. Is this too far in the past? No, I just, it embarrasses you, or what? What was that? I think it's just, I've just, I've just,

just come out of this time where, you know, I was one of the people that came out against Harvey Weinstein. We put him in jail. And that was a huge impact on every level in society for women to be able to tell their truth and harmful in ways that you wouldn't have thought, you know, a lot of people protected him and still behind bars. And they, and so there's been like, like, there was a backlash with him before. then that was just like, wow, you know. And then you have aging. And then you have, you know, like all that. So, and I had, I got divorced again. And I'm not coming up to, maybe catching up to Elizabeth Taylor, but yes, I believe in marriage.

And so I got married, you know. Me too. Right? I've been married three times. Okay. I don't plan to it anymore. One was an old, but anyway. So that doesn't count.

So, but, you know, I, I definitely love. So when I see you guys, because I've been completely alone, healing this thing that happened that was, move me across the country and no dating for four years. I just came to four years, like full on. And I really did it. Like I did not the dating, not jumping into another thing, not feeling the whole of pain, like by distraction with another relationship. And did that. And on January 1st, which it would have been the exact four years, I just like, oh, I'm free. You know, I'm free. And it's been, and coming to L.A., I got out of L.A.

And I was going to come. I'm so glad I got out of L.A. And I can't stand. L.A. is too hard for my soul. Like, Woody. And then yesterday, like, I realized, like, oh, I'm, I'm over that. And that's not hurting anymore. And I got, I kind of miss L.A. a little bit.

Like, my friends are here. I'm in a snowstorm up to my knees, you know. So it was the, yeah. Welcome home or back. or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So I think your rabbi would be proud of you.

So rabbi, yeah. I listen to that podcast with him. I like Rabbi Finley. He's amazing. He lives in Israel. But I also like, I have to say, like I was raised, but my father was Christian. My mother was Jewish. They decided to become Muslims.

So we were raised with all religions. Tolerance. We had, yeah, we had Ramana. We had Christmas. We had Hanukkah. which Hanukkah is more like a hallmark card but you know Passover and and to celebrate all religions and I honored them all and Buddhism too and everything and so I just believe you know God is love ultimately I do that that's ultimate let's stick where we are okay so that's incredible

family you got raised in and I love your sister Patricia I know I don't really know David but I love him from afar. He's amazing. Yeah, he's amazing. He's like, makes me cry. He's in Nashville and on a farm. They moved over there and the power went out and the state's not really taking care of them. It's bad.

It's bad right now. It's really bad. And, you know, he was supposed to be here with us and he, you know, it was carrying buckets of water to the animals and now his back is out and he feels terrible, but he's just the most lovely, amazing thing. All of that, Mar, you know, I love my sister. We've gone through a lot of stuff because we had Alexis, our trans sister, who died. And that was very...

How long ago was that? I think it's... Oh, my gosh. I think I was working with your sister at the time. Trauma. It was so... Yeah. It blew us all up.

Like, we all went our kind of our separate... We weren't like... We went our separate ways. It was a lot of angst. And she takes... Tell me her name again. Alexis Arquette. And Alexis died of AIDS-related causes.

And it was horrible. Yeah. And so David and I started, well, on our film, but David and I mostly started this, the Alexis Arquette. It's the Alexis project. And it was a USC medical center. And it was a clinic, full force clinic working at USC Medical Center. And they just shut it down.

Just recently. Yeah, I'm sorry. Help the kids. I help children who are being thrown out of the street because they want to wear pink or beaten up. You know, like, do you know what I mean? I do, no. And so it's been really horrible. I can't even talk about bursting into tears.

It's been very painful. And that's Dr. Astrid Hagar, who is a child abuse doctor. And she was seeing so much abuse, especially in the LGBTQIA community impacting children. Because of federal funding that they might lose, they had to do that? They got ahead of the hospital, came and said, this just got to go. Mm-hmm. It just happened. So it's gone.

And that's... That's what the trouble with St. Ghibli. Elections count or whatever, you know. You lost and what is that phrase? But there's so much suffering and death, death. as a result of removing funding around the world. Anywho. And so we're trying to, like, how do we, I'm learning so much in this time,

having spent a lot of time alone in this healing process, we're, like, you know who your friends are, the community is really important. And then I went and got this MRI, because we're all having to check our, as we get older, we have to do these tests. that are like scary. Like this wild thing.

Yeah, so just to make sure everything's cool. But like, you know, I was like a little flaggy because I had a lot of trauma and trauma impacts your brain. And so, yeah. And so I went in there

and got the loud test and stuff and then I had my brain. I was going like, and if I have something really bad, I have something really bad and then they tell me I'd like six months to live or something. I'm going to do it in the front lines.

I am. That's how I'm going. I would, I'm going like, fuck you all. Sorry. No, no. Fuck you all. Fuck you all.

That's... Not fuck you. I saw. Like, meaning the guys who I'm standing, like, no. No. You know, and I thought I would be very honored to die that way. You know? Maybe I shouldn't say...

You are. But not yet. You get these wackadoodles that... Yes, yes. You know, I don't say, oh, really? You know, but... That's Jane. Jane wants to spend the rest of her life.

Which you always have. Making a difference. I know. She's my hero. Literally. Right? Yeah. Leave her alone for a second. Go back. Go back. Because the first one was be your mother, Martin.

My mom. Your mom. I mean, you grew up in this family. We're skipping around a little bit and everything. But what was that like? My mom was a young mom who, like she was a serious activist always. She raised us with that. But in Chicago, she was one of the people that coordinated a peace march for the anti-Vietnam War in Chicago. And Martin Luther King came.

Wow. And he was there. It's like, I said, where are the pictures? I want to find these pictures. Because I was on a back of a truck with him, and she had painted on my chest, stop the work, Hill No More, on my bare chest. And I was in the back of a truck with Martin Luther King. He was like, you know, yes.

And so I remember this moment, and he just looked at me, he goes, what's your name? And I told him my name. And he goes, somebody put a shirt on the little girl. He was thinking, what's your name, bud? But, yes. And, you know, and it's true. Like, mine was very free. Like, oh, let, it's okay to be.

But, you know, he was actually protecting me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was protecting me early. He was protecting me early. And he saw that, wait a minute, it's okay. But she is, you know, six or something. It was like, you know, not in diapers.

So. Wow. What year do you think when you're six? So, so 60 years, like a long time ago. 65, 6, something like that. Yeah, like so, because I was. You have to go, you have to go to the newspaper or whatever the big newspaper was back then and go through their archives.

I will bet you. I wish we could find, like, pictures. As a mom, because you didn't have, like, the iPhones. She was like, she didn't have a camera in the moment. But like, wow, like, what a, I would have loved to have that. What about the acting side of her? Acting, so she was an actress. poets. She studied to be an actress. I mean, she did a lot of cheesecake modeling, you know,

stuff, top-lacy things that my brother David did a club called Boosie Bellows. Basically, she was kind of sort of, was stripping. I love this. And her name was Boosey Bellows. And so Booty Bellows, there were pictures, like, she wasn't alive, but she wasn't alive, but She would like, no, she was, wouldn't have like that. That he found boozy bellows and pictures of blew them up. But, you know, but yeah, she should raise money to like feed the kids, you know, me, really. I was the first one. So I'm the eldest.

And so she did do that. She has had a lot of shame about it. And she, she taught acting. Married an actor, an actor, a actor musician. You know, they both came from incredibly dysfunctional families. So they brought that stuff to the table. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, she worked through years and years of her own processing.

She came from a violent mom. She herself had violence towards me a lot. And all the kids. I just had a conversation with Patricia because that happened to her too because I was always thinking that it was just me, but it wasn't. And she goes, no, that happened to me. And it was like, oh, wow. You know, like I didn't, wow.

You know, so then my mom worked very hard in herself. became a therapist for abuse people, women, and especially. Fantastic. And so worked through it and had just gotten her license the week she died. And how long ago was that? So I, she was like 30 something years ago, wait. But she knew, had she met Rosanna Arquette actor? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she was very, she did have like, I have like fan girl letters for my mom that was kind of nice. She, you know, she was very critical, too. Jewish mom critical. She had that. Yeah. So, and I have to work really hard on my judgment criticisms. I didn't realize I had. Like, it's like, oh my, I was like, you know, I don't, like, yes. And I, I've worked really, we've gone through stuff so that that that's not, we, I don't, I work really hard to not do that. It might be a little like, well, da-da-da. And like, she has. I'm the same way. And you wouldn't think that of this glorious human thing. But I did it to my daughter.

And Mary turned to me and went, what are you doing? And it wasn't like, for me it was like, I think because for so many years I've done half hours sitcom, you have five days to get it right. So you, you know, everything that's right is great, move on. And now this doesn't work. So your eye goes through what doesn't work. Yes. And instead of telling my daughter. her all the myriad of things that she was doing that was right.

Yeah. I picked on the one thing my eye went to that wasn't quite right. And told her, it was just horrible. Yeah. But you had your partner in life that was able to just go, what are you doing? And you go, you could. I think it was stronger than that, but yes. Yeah.

But you could take it and hear it. Yes. Hopefully in the moment. Maybe not. You did. And she, and you went, whack, I'm wrong. And see, that's the thing that. That's where we learn, right?

Okay, but to be real, I've done it to Mary for enough times that when she saw my daughter, she went, then she went, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to stop that. I'm so lucky. I am very. You are so lucky. You guys do have a, you know, makes me cry because you do have like an energetic glow around you.

You know, like that's like a, it's palpable. Like it's the aura. Yeah. It is. And we do all the, we do all the bad. You know, all the angry, all the, what, we do everything, you know, but we kind of met each other. I was 45, she was 40, and we had made all, I, we had made all the mistakes. We had made so many mistakes, or at least I have, I'll speak for myself, that I thought,

I'm incapable of having a relationship. So anyway, you work through that stuff, and then you get handed that perfect person, and it's, you know, you don't waste time. It's a blessing. We're very lucky. Yeah. Like, and were you not even looking? Or were you?

No, I had really went, oh, I'm done. I can fuck up any relationship because I saw it was me. Yeah. It was always me, you know. I always take my 50% always. And then, but I do have, I'm a bad picker. For the, not for me. Not to say they're bad people.

Yeah, yeah. It just wasn't the right thing for my life and clearly theirs. Yeah. Yeah. But then you go bigger picture and you never know what your deeper, bigger purpose is. And you're certainly doing it. Figuring it out, you know. Can I, can I, because I just came from something last night that was all women. And I'm always in rooms with all women.

I don't know. That's cool. Hormone count. Something's off with me. No, it's a good thing. It means that you accept and love and honor women and you don't feel threatened by them. No. Yeah.

It's possible. Am I saying that I never feel threatened by Jane Fond? Of course I do. No, I don't. So anyway, last night it was about, because as you mentioned, Mary is a songwriter. For real, this is what she does. And she goes to Nashville and co-writes with all these amazing people. And these amazing people and Mary last night got up.

It's a thing called Mother. And it comes under the, uh, uh, uh, What is it? I can't remember the overall brain. I can look it up in a minute. The overall umbrella is some other thing that deals with supporting women. But this is women who are mothers and who are breaking through in the music world. And all of a sudden they're asked to stop or they don't have the money to hire a nanny or they can't afford the bus.

So they're going around and they just, it's like they were like six or seven amazing singers. half of them real artists that were traveling around. Raising money and attention to go, let's support this. It doesn't have to be that because you're a woman and you have your baby, that you don't get to be creative in all areas, including your art. That's right. It's pretty cool. It's amazing.

And I just pay for the babysitter so I can go in the studio for, you know, this week. That's fantastic. Yeah. And that's what you're searching for. Yeah. Deborah Winger was about and I watch it. You know, I wish I would have had Mary in that. Oh, she would have been so perfect for that.

You know, it was just, but yes. But tell us what that was about and how you got to that. Yeah, it was exactly that, balancing your life with the arts. Something, once you become a mother or you're an artist and you choose another artist to be with and you're making it work. But some people can't do that. There's jealousy. There's competitiveness.

There's feeling like, well, but to explore the balance of all that. So it's called searching for Debra Winger, and I think I had hit 40 and I was kind of like, this isn't fun anymore, like auditions. An agent said to me, well, they just think you're too old. You know, and it was so callous. And I just remember going, I feel like I'm just coming where,

an ingenue is done. I want to like explore this stage of my life. And that's what I meant now. Like even now, I'm like, I am grandma. I could be a grandma. You know, it's like, okay. And so, but they were basically saying it was, you're over with. Could have come around the Harvey vibe world too.

Maybe that was just like something was going on and the agent got, I don't know. But it was. After you had said something that you got that response to no. I didn't know. I didn't know stuff that was going on, you know, until people were coming to me. Like, you know, I had told Jane a long time ago, and a few people knew that this had happened. But everybody, we all, you had to keep your, like, no one was going up against this guy. It wasn't until a couple of journalists came, Marona Farrow in particular, who I love.

And who came to me and said, you know, or heard that, did this happen with you? and the anxiety they went through my body was so intense. And also the New York Times, you know, they asked to. And it was... The anxiety before you spoke. Well, and I said, I know this is going to be a big deal. Like, am I going to ever have a career and have health insurance? You know, like, what I was that?

You know, like, and then I was like, this time we want to talk about this because this is not okay. And so we did. Many, many, many people who were impacted. And then once we met everybody, it was a community and it was all of us. And the Me Too movement, of course, is Tarana Burke. And that was kind of hijacked. But she had been doing the Me Too was women in a basement telling their stories and having a support group, which was incredible.

So, you know, she is the person that started the Me Too movement. And so we always have to honor her, which I always did and knew. A lot of people didn't do that and it pissed me off. So it did because of Twitter at the time, which was the town square, and it no longer is. I got off at the night that he bought it four or five years ago, like the last midterm with him. Yeah. And knew like, oh, no, man, this is about controlling the nerve. I'm getting off this thing now, you know.

And I was right. Yep. And, but at the time, it was a very impactful, powerful thing that went viral around the world. Right. And did you have a sense of camaraderie with the people who also came out? Or was that? There were many, many of them, yes. And then there were, you know, you know, you can't say this.

But like, there were people that kind of were like jumped on a bandwagon that went, well, pinched me in the ass in the 70s and, you know, it became like, it diminished. It diminished it. And it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's terrible. What, what's happened? I mean, we're, we're, we're in a government now with, nobody cares and even children. It's okay to, I mean, they're just normalizing this horror. And, um, so yeah, it's been a quite a thing.

So the documentary you asked me about it was balancing life as an artist, balance your life with your work and the relationships and the marriage. Because something always, in my life anyway, took the backseat. It would be like that you go do a movie, but my daughter's just starting nursery school and I'm going to be on location in Canada. Like, I can't miss her first day of nursery school. This is so horrible. I remember having a complete utter meltdown in my trailer sobbing because I was missing my daughter's first day of nursery school. And it was no, well, it was actually the first day of the second year. Yeah, it was the second time.

And, and, but it was horrible. You know, it was like, I, I don't want to be that mom. Like I, and I did have help. Our nanny, Nanny, O'Neillia, who was with me, was helped me be able to work and have a solid thing for my daughter when I did go away. And I, the longest I would go away, the longest was two weeks, which was horrible. And then when she became a teenager, forget it. It was like, you need to be home. No.

Oh, the other. No, then it was like, no, I needed to be around. No, then it was like, I need to be around. So there was something that was going to take me along. You know, it impacted things. And not a resentment way, but it was hard to balance it all. Like, God, please, you know, my kingdom for a television series in Los Angeles would have been amazing. Yeah.

But it just never happened. Mary said that you always feel like you're in the wrong place, always. Because you're either missing, being able to have your creative outlet that brings you joy or you're missing your children. So it's like almost a no-win situation. She was making big movies. She'd won an Oscar.

And then kids came and it's like, I think she did it once and went, oh, I can't do this anymore. I will have to pick really juicy parts. in the summer. Really good movies that are small. So it's two weeks. I can bring them for the first three, you know, and then they can come the weekend, and then they'll come.

So they can still be in and out of school. Yeah. And all that. And that works until or take them, or she would take them with them during summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. But that works until their fifth, sixth grades, and then they want to be with their friends.

They want to be with you. They don't really want to be with you, but you don't want to leave in that time when it, especially now, I mean, I have to say the challenges that parents have right now navigating, like, I don't, I don't know if I could have been a great mom during the shutdown and doing school online. I think I would have, I don't know how great. It's hated.

Well, I think it impacted. Social. Look, look at, it's impacted the year. Everything. And, you know, you go into conspiracy theory. It was like, the shutdown. It was the way they kind of got in there to these minds and could, there was a friend of mine whose kid was online, seven, eight years, eight years old doing work and a cartoon popped up. They went to the cartoon and it was a porn cartoon of a rape.

Wow. Like, what is how did, what is this? So were they, they just knew all these kids were at home trying to navigate the school. I can't even like work the computer right. Get you online like what? It's just like, you know, I'm freaking out about the new portals that we have to do medically. Like, what? I feel like a knucklehead.

My mom, my daughter's like, Zoe, says to me, mom, you're like such a knucklehead with like this tech stuff. And I am. I don't. Me too. And it makes my brain hurt. And it makes me slightly angry. Yeah, me too. And then I, so I take, no, I don't.

I don't do social media. And I don't. And I'm glad I'm not. But I also know that what I did was step off a train. You know, the train is this is the direction the world is going, obviously, clearly. I know. And I probably miss. I can't.

I'm like, have you ever, does it just pop up the thing that goes around? I'm really bad with this, when the AI seems like it's listening to you, and I literally go, fuck you Nazis. But I just like, I just like, I do. I'm like, fuck you, Nazi, I don't want you to. And I had this whole thing was like a Google thing. And I'm screaming at the, you know, then like I said, I hate this Google thing. And then I couldn't get, I had to like look up something, would not let me do it.

It listened to me and literally. I thought you were going to say it was going to just send you material on Nazi. She clearly loves Nazi. Nazis. So let me give it. Did that really happen? You got a lockout. Wow. That just happened last week and I was thinking I was going crazy. I did something where I was mad and swore and it responded, you know, in a gently admonishing way. And it was so affected if I apologized. And I think maybe that's why I didn't get barred. I swear to God, it's so strange. What did it say? Like it said, that language is not okay. Yes, yes.

I can't respond to that language. And you said, I'm so sorry. Such an idiot. But there's something... Have you seen this show Pluribus? By the way, we just lost everyone. Yes, I did. Okay, so I have just like a few...

But the thing about when she has this rage and anger and what it does to the other person... It's really, it's like... It's smart. And I think, oh, wow, our moods are like, you know, or you can not have the right... You can come from a place of reactivity, which is the thing I'm working at. Like, and a mood, a dark mood or a bitchy tone can really affect somebody's life, you know?

And I think it's very smart. And I thought, oh, I'm thinking of it that way. And can you imagine that, you know, that screen or whatever, you know, this little screen that I at will go to. Yes. And that little screen are what comes over it, infuriates me, saddens me, makes me scared. And then you kind of pop back every once in a while. I look at myself sitting in a room by myself with this in my hand. Why am I doing that to myself?

Because you can read and not have the same impact. You can read a newspaper. Yes. And it doesn't. We used to be able to read a newspaper. Let's who owns them now. But I mean, yes, I want, give me a great newspaper with news. That's not

propaganda. What's your cheery? Because we're going down this Robert hole. Which is true. It's true

and it is scary. But I sit there and I look at my granddaughters and my grandson and I go well I can't come up to them.

I go, this world is really fucked up. I can't understand how you're going to deal with you know. I know. So we do have to flip that narrative

and go they are smart enough, they have the tools, maybe they will be able to navigate through this and get to the other side, because empathy is going out the window with a screen, you know. And it's built to do that, I think. It's how they control us. I really do believe in energy,

like the energy that everybody carries and there's a darkness in the news cycle that's so dark. On both sides, Oh, yes. Both sides. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, I'm not. Because conflict.

Like, I'm just like, dude, you guys are, what is happening? A lot of anger and fear on both sides. You know. We've burned so many bridges together today. Yes. But we can rebuild them. Call me when you get your brain scat back. That's what I don't know.

I know. I've been, I've been, I think what's getting me through this time. to, I realize that because the theme is we shall overcome. It's like a chorus of soulful singers singing we shall overcome. And I just, I still, it's naive

and people think I'm, I have to hold on to that hope. And I know Jane has that. You know, although she's impacted. We're all like, this is, they want us to be scared. They want us to. And so, and of course we can, we're human beings. It's really scary stuff. And especially when

people are being shot in the face for standing they're protecting their neighbors. But the energy of fear is very, very powerful. And I think like if everybody's doing what they can do to bring awareness and just kind of stay out of the actual toxic energy of it. Yep. And, you know, we dipped into the toxic stuff, you and I just now. And I'm sitting there going to, oops.

Should we go some positive stuff? Well, not whoops, because it's real. What we talked about was real. But I'm 78. I don't know how much. You are? Yeah. 10.

Oh, fuck. Is that bad? No, no, no. I'm really. No, I look. I look for really. No. No.

You're, you're, no, you're, no, you're, no, you're, no, you're, no, you're, no, you're very youthful and your energy. Childish. We're talking about energy, though. We're talking about energy. And I actually would not feel that or think that. Like, I, that's why I thought, maybe 70. Maybe, like, like, 60. except like you just hit that, maybe?

And the teenagers are going, well, 70's good? No. No, but 60s, like in the 60s. But here's my point, that I, however much longer we all have, you never know. I don't want to give away my joy, and that would be on me. And my sense of hope and laughter. God, I depend on laughter. So Mary and I laugh a lot.

And it's not wrong. You know, you do what you can do to stop. things that are really evil. And if you don't have that in your makeup, then find somebody who does and support them if they're doing legal, good, noble work. Very smart. But, you know, keep your laughter going. Keep your joy. Keep your hopefulness going. And it feels better in your body. It does. It does. Because all of this stuff is impacting our health in a way, the negativity of it. The fear itself is dangerous. I just was reading about trauma and the brain and where it goes.

And the trauma and the brain goes to the back of here, all the neck area, thigh, all that. Yeah. And so that's right. I mean, we're definitely getting to the point where we know that disease is dis-ease that, you know, your unexpress grief, your rage or whatever that is not dealt with. It does have an impact on your body. And we're very, very blessed to be in a business that we can express those feelings in characters or, you know, in ways creatively, which is, you know, well, we're lucky. We're very lucky to do that. I love our tribe of people.

Yeah, you're a really good friend. So another one of my besties. I love her so much as I've known her since she was 19. is Laura Dern. Laura Dern. Oh, my God. She loves you guys. Yeah, we love her.

And she's a very big, I've known her, so she was 19. She's a lover. We met going with Jane up the California, up the coast of California, and registering people to vote for the toxic water initiative with Tom and her. I met her. She was 19 years old. She was with Kyle, Ben. Yes.

And that's when we met. And we were, you know, I came, I came, I came in. from her mama's memorial. Diane. Yeah. Diane. We weren't able to go to the memorial. We went to the thing in Ohio.

Yeah, yes. Celebration. Yes. Her life, celebration of her life, which I couldn't go to. But I was happy to go to. You interviewed some really interesting.

Diane Lane is a great friend too. So just. I just got off the phone with her. We're so close. And so we're, yeah, she moved east too. So we meet. We meet.

in the middle. And I told him to be home this weekend. She goes, where are you? I said, I'm actually, you know, just had the MRI and I'm at Air One, which I love when I come to LA. Air One and MRI. What more can you, you know? And so I said, I'll be home this weekend. Let's hang out. Well, you know, we've covered so much of this, but I keep asking people, what is it that you do to comfort yourself in these times that keeps you into love and joy and happy? us because that is I used to do this

that when I like I started it during the first the podcasting thing which I was during COVID Yeah it was during COVID and I did it you know I had I had you know out of my home and and it was my like I love I did two documentaries where I interview people

searching for Deborah Winger and all we are saying which was musicians and I really love like you're doing it I'm interested in other people so here I am talking about myself And I haven't done that in a really long time. So it's kind of, okay, I'm sick of my voice now. And tell me about you.

I love doing this because I do get to talk a little bit about myself. But I love finding out, like, we'd never go, you know, at Jane's, find a corner and talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And let me ask you all these things and find out what makes you tick. We don't have the time to. I will never look at you ever again the same because I got to have this. That's really. it's really lovely. Woody does this

naturally in life over a joint. I know, Woody. Oh my gosh. He's during the when the Me Too movement it was the was the heightened Harvey Weinstein big time

and it was Guillermo won for his, that movie, the other movie. Yeah, something of water. What is it? Shape of water, yes. Shape of water, thank you. And Woody was there. I remember it was and he like went to hug me and he goes

I'm afraid to hug you and I was because he thought like I was like I went really like come on you know yeah that's a good thing you're asking in that moment

really yeah like I was a person that was going to you know do that to him and I was like no

I was like come on there's so many levels of what of the Me Too and the lessons for men that come out of that because there's a lot that like you say

somebody got their butt pinched not the same level of the really evil stuff that happens and there were girls there were women that you know there are like I mean rape is rape

and then there's sexual harassment in a very deep way I was not raped I was very fortunate not to rape I sure could have been but I have a spidey sense of red flag thing in me that like danger danger like I hitchhiked across the country when I was 15, which was insane. And I had a boyfriend. We did do that together, but fake IDs and get to San Francisco.

And there was a crazy truck driver. And I just had this horrible feeling. There was books out that Frank Figuzzi did about the truck drivers and murderers on the highway. I mean, this guy could have been one of those guys. And I knew, and I made up this whole thing like I was going to have diarrhea and his husband, get me out, I need to get out. He got us out. He got us out.

You know, like, but I, like, I, I, I, so the spidey sense in me of just, like, danger, danger. I have that. That's what happened with Harvey where, you know, I'm supposed to have this meeting, this movie that he wanted, he said he wanted me to. He ended up not doing this movie, so I don't even, like, but for a minute he was doing Romeo's bleeding with Gary Oldman and they wanted me to play. He wanted me, I was going to play the wife. This is, who knows?

Because my Annabella Shore ended up playing that role and is a major person that I had many, many conversations with to be able to, you know, trust Ronan enough to talk to. And she, but he didn't produce that movie. So I pointed the Beverly Hills Hotel to have dinner with Harvey in the Polo Lounge. And I got the new script. You're going to love script. I get there and I said, Mr.

Weston, we'll see you upstairs and I was like, so first thought was like, and then I all know that he's got the penthouse

and, you know, because a lot of actors we would go to meet in a hotel, you know, and there was never, so I went up

and I could feel this, you know, thing. And he opens the door in the white bathroom. Oh, I can't move my neck. So I can't move my neck.

Like really, and I went, and I just like, and I backed away and I said, I have a misuse for you. I can get you a misoose. He goes,

No, no, no, no, Arizona. Pull the hand down to whatever. And I pulled it away. And he goes, you're making a very big mistake, Rosanna. Look what I did for, he gave me Gwyneth Paltrow and Elle McPherson. Meanwhile, Gwyneth is one of the women that came out against him. So that was his ploy. Look, she won an Oscar for do, do, but it's like that's what he would do.

You know, doesn't mean she did anything. And I said, I will never be that girl. And I go in the elevator, And as soon as I got to the bottom, I knew I just said, oh my God, this is it. And within minutes, like in a couple of weeks, meetings got canceled. A thing I fell apart. The worst reviews in the world of the, like, you know, which now we know that he paid off people to do stuff like that. And it was brutal.

And that was years before. we came out. So there was like, there was a slow day. That happened years before. It was like, it was like a slowdown happened. And I am in Pulp Fiction. Quentin Tarantino directed that. It did happen after the fact,

but I am the only person in the movie that did not get a back end. Quentin wanted me, so he didn't say no, but I didn't make a diamond. Everybody else, you know, made quite a lot of money because everybody were for scale, but we all, the people that, whatever,

who'd worked a long time, had a back end. And they didn't give it to me. I think he used these people as, as like thinking that was a lure, like a, you know, fishing you in. No matter how big you think you are. No, no, no, no, like, you know, like, yeah, I think. Really, really evil. Yeah.

But, I mean, I got in a lot of trouble. not a lot, but people were upset because he is in a horrible prison and he is in Rikers. And that place should be shut down. It's not for anybody. It's a human rights violation on every level. And so I kind of like I want to shut down. And I don't, he's in jail. He's lost his career.

He is a very sick man. You know, I had this crazy thought of, um, interviewing him in jail. You know, like, because I do believe in redemption. Redemption. And if somebody is willing to, to, to look at themselves. Of course. And like, it's like, like, I'm like, how did, this powerful man, how did you get here?

And like, and have it be, you know. And I said something like that somewhere and was like on the line or something. But like, I don't think anybody deserves to be in that place. It's one thing they're out of society, but like, you don't, nobody needs to be treated, you know, with shit on the walls. I'm sorry. Yeah. And it needs to be shut down. And so I said that, you know, people like, he deserves that.

I was like, I think. No, redemption is. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Check the Bible. I, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I believe in redemption. and forgiveness for the, you know, and if someone is willing to, like, there's so many prisoners, like down the doughboys, you know, down the, the, the, the, the, the, Mark, that Jane and Lily are always doing down, the, um, the, homeboys, home boys, home boys, home boys. And what a gorgeous organization that is. These guys have been imprisoned, tattoos, they've done horrible things, and that father, what's his name, the father? Boom, fuck, right, well, and his books are amazing and I'm sorry

because I'm forgetting anybody's name. Yes. And that's like these are people that are really completely turned their lives around.

They did some terrible things but they're not doing terrible things now and they're owning their stuff and so I believe in that.

I do too. My friend, I'm interviewing Friday, Mark Vahanian has started something over the years having met Father Boyle

and worked alongside in some is something called Pathway to Kinship, which is working with, it started with recently, you know, incarcerated people getting out, I mean, who were incarcerated and working to get them, you know, a home, a real job so that they can thrive. But then he started going into prisons and working with people,

including lifers, who will never get out, but who wanted to make a difference by working with those people who would possibly get out. And he goes in with people who are victims who have been victims of violent crime or their family members. And yeah, redemption is very powerful thing. And if you think, sorry, I'm practicing what I know

about my friend, Mark. But if you don't do this, 70% of the people who are put out on the street with, I don't know what, nothing, They'll return to crime because they have no idea. What are they going to do? I mean, they don't have to return to crime. But the vast majority of them are back in prison without a helping hand.

Because they have a roof over there. Sometimes some people are scared to be out in the world. It's scary, you know? Yeah. We even saw that, even that Shawshank, you know, like the people that, like at the end, like it was in a movie to see that. And a lot of people. want revenge.

Yeah. You know, well, that ends up costing you more. Yeah. You know, as a society. It's stupid on every level and not good for our, you know, the heart of this country. Anyway. Let's heal the heart of this country. Yeah.

Amen. And what else you're going to do? Why not? You know, that's the other thing that I comfort myself with the phrase, dead, and then you die. Yeah. So what are you doing? Yeah. Don't be depressed.

Don't be angry and furious. Just do the best you can to make things a little bit better every day and watch the good place because that was the message of the good place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's me too. Black Lives Matter. It was such a, you know, even if you go, well, I've never done that or I'm not a racist, you had to look. you had to look, I did, I had to look at, oh, my intention. Our white fragility?

Yeah, well, I don't, I'm all right. I don't need to be white fragility, but so entitled, so entitled that we don't even know it, you know, that I go, wait, what, really? Oh, no, or that, no, my intention was so clear that I was trying to make this person laugh. so what? Do I really know that she's laughing because it was funny and it tickled her? Or is she laughing because she felt she had? Or whatever.

You just do not know. So that was a big thing to learn for me. And, you know, I'm not a racist, but yeah. We're white privilege. We come from it. Yes. And you provide the foundation for looking at, you provide the foundation for looking at, the other way or something, you know.

There's, I think it really, and here we are and all of that, but it is, I think there was steps taken forward and then some big ones back, but anyway. And what, can I? You are all on the streets for that. And, and, and, and it was a huge, huge movement. And seeing George Floyd murdered, you know, thank God for, she was 17, what just her beautiful, her name? filmed it. That footage

put him in jail. That we had that. You know, she had to go underground. You know. Yeah. And Minnesota. In Minnesota. Hey, you know, it's like, it's all,

being human is hard. It's hard. Life is hard. All of these things. But our job in life, the reason why you're here, I think, is to grow, to learn, to know who you really, really, really are. And, um, You turn the other way and have a blind eye and, you know, you think, I will sometimes tell Mary, my defense over little things. You know, I wasn't aware. It was something, you know, it was something that makes me look good in the fact that I had done something that wasn't, didn't have a good effect.

Right, right, right. You know, it's good for all of us to grow up and go, yeah, I did that. That was mean on my part. And I apologize. Oh, I am capable of being mean. I think my hope that we're doing that in my family because we got a lot of turning the other way or like having hidden resentments

and not speaking for a little while. Like coming from a big family like that and there would be moments like that and now it's really important especially to not always be right or have to defend myself in something that, which I can be really super defensive. But I, but that's not,

but I didn't mean it like that. You know, like that and I feel very attacked. You know, and I can just hear how it impacted them. My response impacted them and not have it be about me. It's about it did impact them. I need to hear that and not do it like that. And then also apologize, I'm like, okay, I'm really sorry. But that takes a lot of self-confidence.

That takes a lot of self-awareness. And I mean, you can sit there and look at some part of the country that I certainly disagree with, but whatever. But you'd have to be able to go, yeah, that was wrong. It doesn't mean I'm a bad person. It just means that was wrong. And I need to see it. And there's a reason for me to direct reason to apologize.

I need to do all those things. And it's so fucking liberating. But I can look at myself when I do this. The only time I get furious at Mary is when she's right. Seriously. If she says you did da-da-da-da, I don't want to be da-da-da-da. I don't want to be that person, that man who does that. So no. Yeah. Until I go, ah, shoot. Yeah. Yes, I am that person, too, who can be mean.

But that's why you're still together, and that's why she loves you because you're willing to look at yourself and heal and grow from it. After a bit of a tussle, but yes. Yeah, but that's marriage and that's also, but you're committed in the partner. of working through that stuff. Like, you're not, nobody's walking out of the joke. But don't you think that's the same thing that needs to somehow be able to take place in this country? Because you have, we can be so fucking snotty.

Yes. Oh, what you mean? The left? The left can be so condescending, you know. Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. You, da, da, da, da, da, da. I am. I am that way. I am too.

Jane is, I think, the person who has been able to, like, we're going to have to have a big tent. She's the person that has opened my eyes to, we do need to listen to. Now, I personally, you know, not going to dine with a Nazi. I'm not. I mean, that's a boundary. Terrible food, but go on. Yeah. Sorry. Really stupid. Go on, please. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not crossing the boundary of like the Ku Klux Klan pales, you know, like who are hanging people more than ever now. And, and I'm, that, that for me. That, that, for me, no. I don't need to understand just because hate is hate and bigotry and racism for me is so evil. 100%. You need to be real. But would I, when, for instance, I didn't agree with a lot of

her policies, but when Liz Cheney did the right thing for the January 6th committee, I honor the people that believe in democracy. I don't know if we would have been here if John McCain was still around in the Senate. You know? Like, I mean, here. I mean, you know, interesting, the guys who got brain cancer in this time, you know,

like taken out. And it was like, did they do that to them? Like, my brain goes like, what happened? You know? I can't remember. But, yeah. And to be able to sit down with someone who

was a Republican at the time, I could have a conversation and not agree, but not this. My daddy was a Republican. Back when it meant you were very strong environmentalist. Yes. Republicans invented that, really, or, you know, did a lot of work. And the most condescending part of my father towards my mother, the liberal Democrat, was you don't really understand money. That was the worst.

You know, that was the argument, physical, you know. Where were you raised? Arizona, Flagstaff, mostly. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, I want to thank you also for Oceania and the work that you've done to help our oceans, which I've been, you know, you've really made it real impact. Oceana has.

Yeah, Oceana really has. And we're up against it again, by the way, in California with offshore oil drilling. No, he's, yeah. So we need to all be very vocal and get out there, because no one, Republicans and business owners, people who have a stake about the coast and tourism and all of that, do not want offshore oil drilling. It's very punitive at the moment. So we need to get out there and share how much we love our state and we don't want that. Yeah, I'm not here anymore.

Like I got really sad when I had to, I moved to another state. I don't even say it's going to say, but I'm in New England. And I cried when I said, but why do I have, because I hit my business manager here and my doctors are here. So I'm here a lot. But I was like, I don't want to give up my California drivers. I said, can I keep my California driver? And I couldn't. I wasn't able to and I had to get rid of it.

And I was really sad about it. I said, wow, I'm really gone from California. And this was, you know, the Joni Mitchell, California song was going through my head. And I was, and just this trip was like, I miss it. And there's so many wonderful people here. How about Joni Mitchell? Right. Yeah.

I know Johnny. She, I know her for many, many years. And, I mean, she was meant to live. She, like, found her three days later after this aneurysm in her bathroom. And it was, you know. But here she is. Singing. She's still.

Well, she's, and she's, everybody loves her. So. Yeah. supporting her in her art in whatever way it comes out in the world now is so healing for her. Check out, mother. Yeah, I love it. Check it out. I love this so much.

It's a really wonderful thing. And you should, when there's something around here or your neck of the woods. And I love that they're so helping young musicians to be able to do their art. Yeah. I love anybody who's able to do their art and needs to do. Because when it's in you and you must create and you must make music. or must paint or must write. And that to be taken away,

like the documentary that I made searching for double winger opens with the movie The Red Shoes. It was a very expensive clip, but I did know Michael Powell was married to Thelma Skumacher, who is Martin Scorsese's editor. And so that was a really

important clip for me. I wanted to open the movie because she has to choose between her life and her art, you know, either dance or her love, but she couldn't have both. So she dances herself in front of a train. So it's always been the theory and the theme in my life where I have these men, most of them not all, but that were like really threatened or jealous of what I did. And so, you know, I'd either shrink myself or build them up or like not be able to really

focus on me. And this past four years has been great because I have been alone and haven't even dated and I've been celibate. I know. Okay. And it's weird. But powerful. Yeah. You know? Very. Yeah. And good.

And I was able to look at my shit in this time. Like, oh, I do. I am overreactive. I am so defensive. I am judgmental. You know, these things that I thought I wasn't, like, I'm not, but I was doing these things. So by being alone and not having anybody pointed out also in a way where I could actually see it for myself and blame anybody for judging me, you know, like I ended up.

healing a lot of it, working on it to the end of my life, of course, but much better, I think. And then I would be, you know, if I did ever have a relationship again with the fact that I'm even saying that because I was like, I'm done, man, I am done. All the best women I know except your wife, like are done. They just don't want to, they don't take. That's what she said, by the way, literally, right before we met. She said, I know I look like I'm the kind of person to be good at relationship. I'm not. And I was saying I could fuck up anyway

and then we met. That's so nice. It's amazing me so romantic and I will everybody is, you know, that would be great. Like if I had that kind of. Yeah, but it's also what we wanted and needed in life, you know. To grow as human beings individually and together.

A lot of people can grow on their own. When she goes away, you can miss her and but you're excited that she's doing her thing and you don't feel threatened by it. Yes, and the world gets, very gray and bland and, and I think, why am I so depressed? And then I go, I'm not depressed. It's just the difference between my endorphin level when she's around and when she's not. It's so dramatic, I feel like I'm, until I finally snap out of it. And then I party. I just party down.

What's the, what's the longest year away from each other? We had a two-week rule. We're two nights. It's like, do you go and do she like, she has, need her own space to create so that she's, like she's in Nashville doing her thing. Do you ever go to Nashville? Yes. Oh, so you do. Okay. When she works,

they have to frame me out of the picture because I'm tied to her hip. So. But I get to be in all her movies. They just frame. Oh, that's, oh. Here's my favorite thing that Mary's ever said to me that, I don't know, a minute ago, it came up now. It's not appropriate to anything we're talking about, but I love it.

And it's when we both knew, oh, this is going to work out because it was very early, pre-engagement even, and we were dancing at some, I don't know what. And I was really in good form. I was dancing better than I've ever danced and just quite taken by myself. And she kind of danced up closer to me and whispered into my ear, pay attention to your fucking partner. And it's our mantra in life. It has become our mantra, you know. Pay attention to your fucking partner. It's an acting.

And in that, yes. It's Sandy Meisner. Listening. Yeah. So when she said that you, did you have any defense or did you got it immediately? No, no defense. It was so wonderfully startling and true. Yeah.

And we both in the middle of the dance floor just hit howling with laughter. And it was like, oh, this will work. I got chills. My hair is going like this. Yeah. That's, and that's it. I need to be reminded all the time, but it's a great phrase. Pay attention to your fucking.

You have to say it's sweet, laying with love. Yeah, yeah, yes. That's great. That's great. Well, you're very, give her my love. I will. I want to hear the song she writes when she's away. I will.

Hey, have you, you know, she won a Critics Choice Award for something she co-wrote. No. Did you ever see Wild Rose? Jesse Buckley. It's in a beautiful film. The English film. No, what I want to immediately, because I do love her. Oh, she's amazing.

Check it out. But her character at the end, she's a singer who wants to break into Nashville and comes home and realizes home is where she needs to be kind of story. And the last song that she's singing in Glasgow, is, yeah, Mary and her co-writers. Yeah.

She wrote it with Jess. No. Oh, okay. Two or three, I think, people in Nashville have credits for it, but Mary. That's wonderful. And this is me just paying attention to my fucking partner here. And she won, tied, they did. They tied with Elton John. That's fantastic.

Which is so much better than winning it outright because now their name is next thing. Yeah, that's so great. That's so great. Congratulations. I definitely want to see that. I do love Jesse Buckley. And you have a show with your, what's the new show? It's called a man in the inside.

We just got picked up yesterday. I haven't seen it yet. Is it already on the air and everything? I'm so bad with the TV. That's fine. I just watched Criterion channel, but I did see Plurbus. But like I don't really watch a lot. So what channel?

So let me hear everything. Criterion or high? Yours. Yours. Yours. Oh, it's Netflix. Oh, is you on Netflix? Okay, great.

Okay. And we've had two seasons, and we just got picked up for the third. And Mary was in, no, why? What? No. Oh, my God. When I'm on your podcast, you'll start. No, no, no.

So, okay, so this is the third season, and Mary is going to be on this new season. Well, I can't say. Oh, okay. But she was on the second one. Oh, okay, great. Yeah. Okay, exciting. That's neat.

I love it. Me too. What else is going on? You want to talk about anything? Oh. I've had so much fun. Yeah, this has been really fun. I'm just, I believe in gratitude.

I'm just staying grateful. Even in days of when it sucks, just to, simple. It's snowing out there, you know, where I am so high, but I have heat. I have food. I, like, so many people who are not. okay right now and there are so many scared people i mean you know do you know v eve ensler do you know eve ensler v no oh my god this is so many she'd bring on your show she's very very close friend of jane she wrote the vagina monologues and she had and she has an incredible

playwright but she's also done this play called this is crazy about mental health it's so incredible and um that a night of it um jane did me and um mark rick Ruffalo and really wonderful actors and we did a reading of it. But she's somebody really worth... I would love to. Yeah. She's powerhouse. But she was telling me,

there are so many families that are afraid to venture out because of ice. So they're starving. And they're like in the homes. And so there's, we have to help them. This is terrible. And people are. Huh?

Yes, there are people. So many people, that's what we're seeing. which just needed to happen. I mean, I'm going to say this out loud, but you just like, did it have to take two white people getting shot for people to kind of wake up?

I mean, it's like where it's going, oh, oh, oh, oh. You know, like suddenly it was like, no, this happens every day, folks, but they happen to be white. And now people are waking up to it that we're nobody safe. And this is like we need,

But that's the sad part of it. Like this happens every day in community. You know, people are being shot and disappeared. And I'm just so broken heart about it. I can feel it, you know, if you're an empath, which I clearly, like all the people that I know, they're artists, their actors that are doing this, we kind of have to have some sort of empathy to, I think, be an actor. Sure. I mean, maybe, I don't know. You have to be able to put yourself in other people's shoes.

Yeah, in other people's skin and be that person, you know. Without judgment. Yes. And the world is, you know, I just want the energy of love. Like they strive for that, gratitude, love, like all this kindness. And, you know, it's the love thy neighbor. All these Christians, what? Do you read the Bible?

Yeah, man. Yeah, we're going to make it. We are, we shall overcome. Yeah. And then we die. And then we die. Which is not a bad thing, you know? But maybe we, maybe, you know, by this level of life that we're doing, you know, who knows, who knows?

You know, my other word besides gratitude, which saved me. Last 10 years, I think the word gratitude is really. been very helpful to me. Curiosity is my new favorite word. Talking about brain health, you know, stay curious, dad. Stay curious. Yes, wordle. I'll tell you my starting word.

No, Mary's in my starting word. Do you have one that you pick every time with wordal? What? Do you do wordle? I do, I haven't done it in a long time. I was really getting it. I can't even talk to you anymore. I know, I'm sorry.

I was doing it a lot. I was doing it a lot and then kind of fell off the wagon of the wordle, but I'll get back on there because it's important. It's really important. And then you can understand. It's the basis of our relationship. Do you compete? No.

We cheat. We do it together. Oh, that's so good. That's so funny. That's wonderful. How long are you here for? Curiosity in reading about a lot of, I'm here. I leave tomorrow.

Oh, early, early a.m. going back to, uh, I had a, I, this movie I'm in called the moment, I haven't talked about, but that's, moment. Sorry. That's okay. I don't need to. I actually don't need. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, do I, they didn't even invite me to the LA premiere. So, no, but there's a, do, have you seen it? I'm not bitter. Have you, have you, have you seen it? Have you. Yeah, yeah, it was just in Sundance, it was fun. It's fun. It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very well done. Not to worry. We'll cut this part. I mean, you know, I was just like, I, I, um, it's, it's, she has a, a huge audience of people that really love her. And, and so, and it was really fun at Sundance, which was just the weekend, last weekend, um, and had a great time. And then the

snowstorm happened. We're supposed to have a big premiere in, in New York, but, that didn't happen because of the snowstorm and then I guess something happened here and I kept saying, something happened in L.A. Everybody went to L.A. Is everything happening in L.A.? And then my daughter calls me. She goes, Mom, why weren't you at the premiere

of the thing in L.A.? It was like, nobody invited me. You know, it's like, and that was a great lesson because I, in four years ago, even a couple years ago, even a year ago, I probably would, I found myself like, like, like,

they can't stand me, somebody's like sabotage me. Like, I went to this moment, and I did. did it literally, maybe 10 minutes. And then, now it's funny. And now I'm okay. And it's like, it's okay.

And it's like, I'm not, it's young, it's all the young people. And I'm the old lady in it. So it's okay. But I think is the algorithm. And I did say, you know, I got a phone call from the, yeah, 824. I say, you know, I'm not, you know, it's like we're surrounded by the 15 minute of fame people, like that Andy Warhol said in 15. It's like, you know, we've like, I don't know, I've been this business of 47 years.

You've been in this business for how many years? Like, many, many years. And there's kind of not really in this, the way the business is a respect for that. And then you think, well, am I an asshole for even wanting that kind of respect? Like, does it matter? Does it really matter? I'm in a movie. It's making money.

Nice. God bless you. Thanks for asking me to be in it. And I'm grateful. I figure I'm going to work because they need older people to stand next to the younger people to make the younger people more visibly, obviously younger. Yeah. It's true.

And they need silly, very silly white men, especially silly white older men who still think they're in the game. That's funny. So I got jobs. But you are. You've always, and you're lucky that you are. I adore you. I will go across. Go across the room at any party and feel like I have the right to now talk to you.

Bring married. But you are. You know, you are. You're an incredibly talented actress. Thank you. And you're very wise. Thank you. And you're like a stateswoman who has been around long enough and doing actively good things for the world.

I love watching women who I consider some of my heroes flock to you. You're very cool. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm very honored to be here and thank you for having me. Yeah. You know. Travel safe. Yeah. Bye. Oh, that was great. I love talking to Rosanna.

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