Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Adam Carolla

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

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What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. I got a good one for you today. It's Mr. Adam Carolla. I've been a fan of Adam's for a long time, many, many years. I grew up on him on TV and radio and podcasting. I'm excited to sit down with the dude. Very funny, very interesting Los Angeles native. I'm going to be back on the road, finally, but we're going to do it in April.

April, I'm going to be at Salt Lake City at Wise Guys, and then Addison, aka Dallas, Texas, at the end of April as well. We're putting updates at andrewsantino.com, so look out for those. You want to grab some merch,

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one-on-one and all that stuff at the Patreon. Go to patreon.com slash whiskey ginger podcast, patreon.com slash whiskey ginger podcast, where you can get that extra bonus content. And I'm working on a bunch of new stuff over there. So it's going to be fun. Enough rambling from me. Let's go to the episode. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to whiskey ginger my guest today is one of my favorite people on earth i say that for all my guests but i mean it once again today it's adam carolla adam thank you man thank you cheers thanks for coming thanks for having something something you're like the only person that's drank on the show in like six weeks nobody drinks anymore i thought the whole deal with covid is we're allowed to drink during the

day you can yeah you're allowed to drink during the day. You can. Yeah. You're allowed to drink during the day. First thing in the morning. I like to have eggs and whiskey, then do a little jog, and then whiskey again in the afternoon. Yeah. It's good for you. You know, I worked with Dr. Drew so many years that I probably can't say it's good for you. Sure uh i think some people are able to have a relationship with it that doesn't affect their life in a detrimental way as much as others well what it will like look you've been in comedy for how many years how long have you been in 25 yeah 25 plus now and how many of your friends got sober over the 25 years, comic-wise? None, but I didn't. Not a one. Well, I have to understand, like, I didn't come up with comics in, like, a traditional sense.

I came up with improvisational people, groundling people, acne comedy people, and then radio people. So I came up through radio right you did but I mean you've embedded yourself in the comedy world so you're friends with so many comics that are both sketch or improv or stand-ups I'm surprised because I would say half of my friends got sober like over the years and not just in the world of stand-up just like comedic actors or sketch people or whatever I think people have just started to get sober and I'm like alone on this island drinking again.

Well, you now have company, my friend. Yeah. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I know. I hate the only thing,

you know, the whole thing about day drinking is it's awesome. Unless you have some judgmental prick sitting next to you. There's nothing worse than the airplane drinking because i become when i get on a flight i essentially become otis from mayberry it's like i become a full-fledged alcoholic when i get on a flight i go from decent drinker to just a you know and Andy Cap right um I I just become an insane drinker on flight because the whole flight experience is so depressing to me that I need something to take the edge off and I don't give a good shit if it's 6 45 in the morning I'm getting the cocktails but there's

nothing worse than the person next to you that orders the diet fresca. But once it does it have caffeine and I'm like, can I have three of those little bottles of Tito's? Yeah. If he's not going to have his. Yeah. Yeah. Give it to me. Do you drink before you get on the plane? See, I like to have something right before I get on. I like the before, during, middle. And right as you land in Kansas City. Yeah. Before, during, middle. And right as you land in Kansas City. Well, the key for the plane drinking is you have to cut yourself off at some point because most of the flying I do is going against the time zone. And so it means when I, so if I'm doing two shows in Florida, in Naples on a Friday night, I leave Friday morning and it's a 6 a.m. flight out of LAX.

Yeah, me too. At some point, if you don't cut yourself off, like somewhere over, you know, toward the end of Texas, you're going to be shit when you get up on stage for the second show that night. So I'm done, by the way. Oh, yeah. Too many times. We've all done that. So I will cut myself off.

Yeah, you temper it. You said before we started the show that you lived near this neighborhood. Obviously, we're not going to reveal where we are, but you grew up in the valley and you still live in the valley or no? Did you move? I moved. You're too good for us now? Yeah, I'm in La Cunada, California, which is kind of Beverly Hills Valley.

Yeah. But yes, from where we're sitting, I grew up two streets over, and I passed by this building on my way to school. Wow. I walked every day. I just walked right past this. Were you... I'm always interested in people that are from L.A. Like, there's a handful of my friends that were born and raised...

Like, I started comedy in L.A., which everyone was always like, why? You know, because most people want to start in their little hometown. I wanted to drown if I got here. I was like, I'm just going to sink or I'll float. There will be no, like, middle. At home, I know you... I could have just kind gone, you know, done this thing where it's like, Oh, it could have been okay, but I had the safety net. But being from LA and starting out here, your career in TV and radio and everything, did you feel like it was easier or more daunting than, because did you have any connections? No grew up in north hollywood but it it was a you know million miles

away from hollywood it's right north hollywood it's very kind of blue collar um i didn't grow up with any connections other than when you do grow up around here every blue moon you go into the gelson's and you go oh that's robert yurk robert yurk he's getting fresh squeezed orange juice oh my god so there's like a little bit of spot that person or a little bit of some friend's dad is is grandpa al from the monsters you know it's just weird right shit like that but it doesn't get you any closer to show business you just happen to be aware of it um so i i i didn't really have any aspirations of show business or comedy or anything i was kind of a jock and then i got kind of blue collar and then i was like a carpenter for a lot

of years and it wasn't something that i kind of grew up with. And none of my friends grew up with it. There wasn't any plan. But at a certain point, I actually had this idea to do the opposite of what you were just suggesting, which is at some point, I was like, LA is too big for me. I was like, LA is too big for me. And LA is kind of the market you end up at. But I need to go into a small market and kind of, you know, get my bones, you know, make my bones. So I was like, I had this plan of I'm going to move to like San Francisco. And I'm going to do stand up and I'm find some little local club. And that's going to be my home club, and I'm going to work out, and I'm going to get better, and then I'm going to come back. It never worked.

It didn't work at all. It was horrible. It was like the worst time of my life. Why did it fail so bad, do you think, up there? I had this romantic notion that the reason I wasn't funny or the reason I wasn't achieving what I wanted to achieve is that is because I was in this this big market and and and that that I started off in the place that people were supposed to arrive at as their final destination. So if I went somewhere else that was smaller, I could really get stage time and I could learn

and I wouldn't be competing with all these seasoned veterans and things like that. And it's like when people say, you know, I'm going to move to a new town and change my life, but you just pack yourself and all your bad habits and inclinations to the new town. Right. What's that phrase? Pick up where you left off. Wherever you go, there you are. It's like that old, you know, cliche. Yeah. It's like you can't escape anything. It's going to be you forever. It's like when some species gets out of its indigenous area in South

America and ends up in Florida. Right. They don't just start taking on the traits of the nice species that are there. They just start eating them and doing what they're fucking. And they become nutria. So that's essentially what everyone does when they move. But there's a naivete that thought, oh, I could move to San Francisco and learn my trade. Well, and then look, not to kiss the ring, look you've had not to kiss the ring but you've had a super long successful career and i was a fan before i ever got into stand-up i mean before i knew i wanted to get into stand-up and for me you know like when you guys had the man show you know i know that was a long time ago for you in terms of you've done so much more after that but i loved

the man show because i was like this is just an I just felt like it was an honest expression of just a bunch of people cracking legit jokes that anybody I knew was making and on TV for the first time. Because I feel like nobody was nobody was kind of talking that kind of shit on TV ever. It didn't really exist yet in that realm, you know. And if it did, it was much more watered down. You know, and if it did, it was much more watered down. Yeah, we you know, the man show. And I think sometimes people have a there's a little misnomer that it's like me and Jimmy slapping chicks on the ass and drinking beer. And that was the man show. Right. We really just wanted to do a show together. And we wanted to do a show that was funny, that sort of our version of funny.

Yeah. So, and the way Hollywood works is you have to kind of declare a major. You know, what kind of show is it? And you can't just go, me and this funny dude want to do what's funny to us. That's not really, they need a label. So, we came up with the man show, but it was essentially just an excuse for us to hire all our friends, hire people we wanted to work with and just sit down and do what we wanted to do comedically. Yeah. I mean, it was great. I mean, I just think like, could you sell that show today? Or could you remake it today? Like, would you do it if they said we want you to redo the show again? Would you do it? remake it today like would you do it if they said we want you to redo the show again would you do it uh i i always think that stuff's a little sad when you kind of go back and revisit like you

know when they do it's like a very brady christmas 1999 and everyone's old and fat right alice is dead and it's like on heroin yeah it seems it seems a little thirsty, you know? So probably not. You know, Jimmy and I did 100 episodes. And when we were done with the 100 episodes, it was like, yeah, that's what we wanted to do. Are you guys still close at all or no? Yeah. You are? Yes.

Jimmy's one of the most generous like sort of authentic shouldn't have said sort of he's kind of yeah he's kind of sort of medium authentic right he's super genuine he's super authentic and he's the most thoughtful guy you'll ever meet and i'm one of the least thoughtful guys i'm gonna want to meet he's a really, look, he barely knows me but does, but has been really nice to me over the years. And also, like, I kind of learned what kind of guy he was when I met his Uncle Frank before he passed away. Oh, you know Uncle Frank.

Well, this is an insane story, and I always had said, I wish I could, you know, tell it to Jimmy, because Jimmy doesn't, I've never had the time to sit and talk to him like that. But I, my first gig in Southern California when I moved here, at the time, a good girlfriend of mine who I had worked my little day job with, her dad was the mayor of Hawthorne. And he was running the San Gennaro Festival.

Oh, okay. And he says to his daughter, he says, oh, we're looking for more entertainment or whatever. And she goes, there's this young comedian guy that's at my office. I was at this little shitty desk job. And he goes, well, tell him I'll give him a hundred bucks. And I was like, a hundred bucks. Holy fuck. I mean, what am I going to buy a house after this? So I go down there and I write a bunch of material that I think could work for families. He's like, keep it clean. And I ate such a big bag of shit. I mean, it was was so it was the worst i've ever bombed ever ever

ever times a thousand just because i also was writing material for them and not that i you know it was like i was custom making shit that wasn't even mine yeah it's like for the san genero fee yeah and here i am you know it's i'm trying to make pizza and i don't make pizza do you know what i mean i was like this is of course they know it's bullshit yeah it's a tough crowd i bombed i ate shit and then afterwards frank uncle frank who now is rest in peace, is not with us, came up to me and was like, could tell I was just sulking in the corner, embarrassed. And he was like, oh, you're going to be funny. You have all the makings of being funny.

You're just not there yet at all. He's like, you've got it. You just don't know how to cook it together yet. I said, oh, I appreciate it. And he said, do you know Jimmy Kimmel? I said, yeah, I know Jimmy Kimmel. He goes, do you want to meet him? I said, oh, I appreciate it. And he said, do you know Jimmy Kimmel? I said, yeah, I know Jimmy Kimmel. He goes, do you want to meet him? I said, yeah, I would love to meet him.

He said, come tomorrow to the taping and give your name to the door and bring your nice little girl here with you and go to the side and they'll let you in. Thank you, yeah, dad. And I'm thinking, yeah, fucking right. You know, this is not a real, sure enough, I go to Hollywood Boulevard, I go anyway. And I'm thinking, yeah, fucking right. You know, this is not a real, sure enough, I go to Hollywood Boulevard,

I go anyway, and I tell the security guard on the side, I said, Frank, Uncle Frank said, you know, to come, I said my name. And sure enough, Frank comes running out. When people are in line, you know, when people are in line to see the show, he comes running out and gets me,

a kid who doesn't know, and my girlfriend at the time, and takes us in and meets Jimmy, and then we sit and just talk in the green room. And I was like, oh, that's the kind of people that they are, and Jimmy was so cool about it that I, it just meant a lot to me, especially being a young comic. Because I had loved Jimmy already, I didn't know him,

and it was a huge thing for me for a guy who was trying to come up in the thing that gave me a little bit of, oh, not everyone in Hollywood is a fucking asshole. Yeah, Frank was, is, Yeah, Frank was insanely authentic. Yeah. You know, he just, whatever he thought, whatever he was saying, that's exactly what he thought.

Right. He was, I mean, of course, I met Uncle Frank and hung out with Uncle Frank a million times. Because when you meet Jimmy, you immediately sort of get married to his family. You have his dad, Jim, and Joan, his mom, and Jill, his sister, and John, his brother, and then all the nephews and the nieces and the aunts and the uncles and the Aunt Chippies and the Uncle Franks.

They all just immediately become a part of your life and i come from this weird sparse kind of cold anti-family family so i had no i was like closer with jimmy's parents than i am with my parents right and and and so i kind of liked being included in this this group of this super thick as thieves family, which is Jimmy. And then, of course, as soon as Jimmy got his show, but as soon as we did the man show, it was like, here's my cousin Sal. He's coming out here. Here's Uncle Frank. Here's Aunt Chippy. Like, they all just showed up.

Yeah, and became a part of this culture, which is so wild. It's like now they're embedded in the comedy culture forever because of that. It just kind of became, yeah, America's TV family sort of like the fact that like Cousin Sal became like this picture. And the same way like Stern does that a little bit, too, with his family and friends. They just become a part of the world. Like as your parents were still together or were you a divorced kid? I'm a divorced kid. Good for you.

Yeah. Who isn't? I know. I don't know who isn't anymore. It is weird. My parents got divorced when I was, I don't know, eight or nine. But they didn't get divorced. They just split because there was no reason.

Stop showing up. Divorce like too highfalutin for them like that would have cost 80 bucks or something they had nothing to whack up they had no property they had they didn't possess anything um as far as like you know the kids went and all that they didn't really care about that. They didn't have anything. So there's like, why go through the motions of getting divorced when there's no legal reason? It is, we'll just move apart. And they did that for like a decade. So they were technically still married for your youth, but then they just weren't together.

That's all it was. Yeah, they wouldn't talk to each other couldn't see each other my theory was always that they were both embarrassed to have been with each other just like yeah they were both there's a lot of shame with their past they don't want to face it again yeah just walk away from it forever yeah when you say that you grow up were you an apartment kid you grew up in an apartment your whole life? So I grew up literally 300 yards from where we're sitting in a one-bedroom, one-bathroom house. So I grew up in a house grandmother's second kind of junker house that she bought for a rental property for ten thousand dollars in like 1951 god literally ten thousand dollars now it's worth three million and well not well the thing that's crazy about california real estate that that people who aren't from around here will probably have fun digesting which is so we lived in this broken down junker house for and basically

my grandmother was sort of like well I ruined my daughter so I'll just let her flop at this house and get welfare checks and food stamps and she can just live rent free. But she wasn't going to fix up the house or put any money into the house because she wasn't getting any return on her investment. So we grew up in that house until my, uh, and the house like a hundred years old had no heat or air or anything.

And my dad moved out. Eventually he moved into an apartment. And my dad moved out eventually. He moved into an apartment. And so then I became sort of half apartment, half house guy. But the house was such a pile of shit that the apartment seemed cool to me. Like when I'd go to my friend's apartments, I was like, hey, not too shabby. You got carpet that goes all the way to the wall. It was like a big deal because my house was so bad.

And the house is so bad that it sold about six years ago for like $680,000 and was completely bulldozed. Right, it was a teardown. They didn't even leave up like one wall. They just completely bulldozed the place and built a new house. So that's how bad it was. Yeah, because honestly, if it was held up at all, it had to have been worth way more than that, right?

If they did anything to it that was worth it. It just was a shamble. It was just an old, weird old, literally house from turn of the century. It was one of the first valley houses probably well that was the thing that like honestly i moved to the valley a couple years ago and i was always had this weird because an out of town or you probably have heard this you know like a guy that's not from here we don't understand the valley we don't it can't wrap our heads around it doesn't mean anything to us you you live over on the other side of the hill because that's where all the shit is and then when i came over here it reminded me so much of chicago uh that i was like oh this is just like the outskirts

of chicago i had this exact same vibe the same kind of feel the neighborhood designs were similar so many of the streets near me are chicagoland streets which it just has this midwest vibe to it because as a kid i've said this on the show before, I was always mesmerized by when I would watch a movie. I was like, that's my neighborhood. That looks exactly like my neighborhood. And they're all, it's all shot up here,

Burbank and all that stuff. But it was almost reflective of anywhere USA, except with us, the houses always have a pattern. What blows my mind in California is there's no consistency whatsoever. Like the style,

there's a few that have like similar things in the valley of designers you could tell architects that came through but one house next to the other could have zero in common like absolute opposite types of houses and it's like that throughout the neighborhood where at least in the midwest everything kind of feels the same so it's like everything here feels like a prop house almost or like a set house, you know? Yeah. I mean, we, again, I live in a house that was like literally built like 1882 and then there'd be a 70s house to the right,

70s house to the left, and then, you know, ranch house like up the street. Like it was catch as catch can. And that's why it was it was kind of weird because the neighborhood was pretty decent and was it safe was there any like was it yeah it was it was safe it was it was normal hence the 680 grand to bulldoze it kind of neighborhood so the thing that was funny is is you'd be driving through the neighborhood and, you know, two streets over were these big sprawling ranch houses with white picket fences and freshly, you know, groomed lawns and everything. So when people would be like driving me home from like Pop Warner football practice, they'd be going, hey, somebody's arrived, you know, like looking good.

hey, somebody's arrived, looking good. Because in other parts of the country, once you got into the nice neighborhood, you're in the nice neighborhood. And then they'd pull up to this ramshackle shotgun shack with the brown lawn and the roof falling off. And it'd always be like, oh, you live there. You're like, no, it's behind it. It's a flag lot.

You can't see it from here. Jesus. It's the mansion in the back. I've been on your show one time. I'm going to come do it again, by the way. I'm curious to know if you... Look, you're so good at this thing, right? You're so good now at whatever it is,

whether it's podcasting or interviewing or whatever people want to call it now because it's taken on so many different forms. If you're given the opportunity to do a show on TV, do you take it, or are you so set in this world now that you're doing your own thing and you don't want to go back to that? I'm always open to entertain any ideas or offers or possibilities. any ideas or offers or possibilities.

In general, as we tape this, today, right after this, I'm doing my 3,000th show. Congrats. Yeah, it's kind of crazy, right? So I'm probably two weeks away or a week and a half away from my 12th year of doing this. So you get kind of used to being independent and not having sort of corporate boards and overlords and saying what you want, not having to worry, especially in the weird cancel culture and everything we're at.

So, you know, I don't think I never really had any hard, fast rules about here's what I do and here's what I don't do. really had any hard fast rules about here's what i do and here's what i don't do the deal is is i would do anything if they kind of gave me some autonomy and let me do what i wanted to do or i wouldn't depending on what the rules were you know but i i never really had rules well does that does that come into play like what you said like getting the cancel culture now of like making its way into the podcast space of the digital entertainment space because you're indie and you have so much freedom right like because we're independent shows do you think that that's kind of what keeps you there too is like you know like rogan is a buddy and going over to spotify

was a whole ordeal you know they they the spotify people they threw their arms up and wanted him to take down episodes with certain people that he had had on the show. And that became this whole debate. And of course they lost because they gave the guy $100 million. So it's just kind of like, do you feel like that's keeping you there more

to get away from all the ideas of people coming at you for no reason? Or does that have no bearing on it at all? I am very simple and maybe a little naive in the sense that people always say, well, you make documentaries or you make films sometimes or you write books or you do a podcast or you do some TV shows. So what is it you want to do or you like to do? And my thing is like, I want to

take my ideas. I want to put them in your head and that's about it or stand up or whatever. It's just like, Hey, here's my idea. Let me convey my idea to you. And sometimes it's via a book. Sometimes it's via stand up. Sometimes it's via podcast or, via podcast or appearing on a show like your own. And it doesn't really much matter to me how it's conveyed. So it's sort of like you can shoot heroin, you can smoke heroin, you can snort heroin. I just want to get the heroin into you. Or fentanyl. I just want to poison your mind.

Yes, fentanyl more. So I don't really care. Like, I'm like a Mexican cartel. Like, I don't care if the kids in Nebraska are shooting it, snorting it, licking it. As long as they bought it. Breathing it. I just got to move inventory. So I'm just looking to get America hooked.

No, well, I mean, because it's also now, like, the reason that we love it so much as stand-ups is you know it's another way to connect with our audience which means so much to us because for years on the road I mean how long have you been doing stand-up I started off doing stand-up out of necessity and when I say necessity I just mean like when I was like 25 I was like I, I don't know. There is no Sirius XM or Spotify or podcast or cable or just there's sitcoms. I'm not sitcom material. It's like I was always like, you can't read. You're no good. You can't do anything.

You don't look right. Like you're never going to be a mainstream like sitcom kind of guy. So I just did stand-up because there was nothing else to do right and and I did it and I wasn't any good at it and it was like I was funny but I just wasn't any good at stand-up and I didn't work at it like I should have and I immediately just kind of went into the groundlings and Acme theater and sketch and improv and all that kind of stuff and i i kind of pecked away at stand-up like all that i would retry it like every like three years like maybe i can do this and it never fit it just didn't feel right and and so then i then i got into the man show and love line and syndicated this and you know know, basic cable that. And I was so busy and so kind of diversified

that doing stand-up would seem like a weird place to go back to for me. And then what happened was I got, they flipped the format on my morning show when I was out here on KLSX, when I took over for Howard Stern on the west coast and I don't know maybe 10 or 12 markets you know Seattle and Vegas and shit like that and and it all just kind of ended there was like a financial crisis there was no more terrestrial radio yeah I had been getting contracts every year for you know the last 15 years there are no more contracts and

i started getting these offers because i was a name that people recognize like hey do you want to come out and do stand-up and i was like well i don't really do stand up but i do want to get paid so i go yeah sign me up and i find myself like showing up with no act. Zero material. Zero material, but with such a sort of crazy strength for improvisation and crowd work that I could just literally crowd work my way through an hour or 90 minutes or whatever. You know, we do, you know, what can't Adam complain about? Like someone shout something out and I'll just do it so that's and then as I kept doing that I was sort of like

well here's a bit that kind of worked last time I was at Cobbs you know maybe it'll work over here in Seattle so I started doing that and then I was just kind of making my way through the country, doing well, but not really. I never called myself a stand-up. I was like doing a kind of a one-man show. And people knew who I was, so they could tell a couple of man-show stories and stuff like that. I was kind of faking my way through it. like that. I was kind of faking my way through it. And then at a certain point, about maybe two or three years ago, I was just sort of like, well, why not be a stand-up? Like, why not work, you know, a premise, craft it? I didn't, my whole thing is my self-esteem was so low, I didn't think it was

okay to ever repeat a joke. Right. So I thought you had to come out there and just do something you've never said before. A new hour every night? Like 90 minutes, like every night. And I just thought, I always had this weird thing in my head. Like you can't just, you can't say you just broke up with your girlfriend if you said that nine months ago. Right. You can't do it.

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when you structure the right way like that, they don't give a shit either. They would rather have you tell a story again if they've seen you before at the club a week ago, as long as they see you improving it. They just want to see you keep building on it. It's like passing a high rise they're building and you just are like, I know they're building that thing. I've seen them build it for three months now

but oh shit balconies now like i just feel like they they're that's it's that same way that they don't really care as much as we think they care as long as you're structurally built now if you're doing the same material verbatim i mean that's the number one complaint of any waitress at any club they're like i've heard this asshole do the same jokes for seven years right and that to me is that that's like this weird vague line of like when is stuff okay to let go and i don't really know i mean i you know i'm starting again with all sorts of new shit now like i've just started trying you know touring again or i'm gonna start touring again and uh fuck it's a nightmare because i had took like a whole year off i I mean, people were doing shows here and there and I kind of tried, but I was shooting this TV show and it was just too exhausting. So now I feel like I'm starting from zero again, which is daunting,

but super fucking fun. Like I it's, it's, that's my favorite is starting over again, even though it's a nightmare. When you said Groundlings, by the way, did you got, did you have anybody, uh, in your like graduating class that really kind of took off or no? Me? You're the only one. No, I'm just being a douche. No, seriously. You could be the only one.

I think I had Lisa Kudrow was in my group. Was she good? Yeah. Yeah, she was good. She was a completely different person. She had, like good? Yeah. Yeah. She was good. She was a completely different person. She had like dark hair. Right. It was like a little bit haunchy.

Like she just had a completely, her physicality was completely different than the Lisa. Which we know today. You know today. But, and there were, you know, there were other people you've heard of that were definitely floating around there.

There was no like Will Ferrell. Well, Will Ferrell was like the roommate of my friend Jerry Collins. And like he'd go to parties after, you know, a show or something. And they'd be like, it's Will. He's on, you know, like stuff like that. Yeah, it was all. But it was all kind of cousins. They weren't really like brothers and sisters.

Sure. But that whole group, if someone gave me a roster in the years, I could probably figure it out. But it wasn't anybody that stood out other than Kudrow. That was the one that popped the most. Yeah. It's funny to think, though, because I always say, like, that's the one thing you always never know about Hollywood is you're like,

you're sitting next to in a class like that with someone who you think could be just whatever. And then they're on, you know, one of the biggest sitcoms of all time. And I've had a handful of friends have that happen where you're, you literally never know. And you're like, God,

I, that fucking guy, he wasn't even good when I met him. And now he became this. Well, but if the kids are listening, this is why you have to be nice to everybody or try to bang them. Because then you can go,

Oh yeah, I know you. I know the real you. She's flying high. She wasn't, she wasn't flying so high on my futon in 89. I'll tell you that right now. Yeah. Yeah. It is funny to like, to see how many people I've seen that I started with that popped off.

Or people like, to me, this is interesting for me because the history of the comedy in the city that comes and goes is like, there were guys that I wish didn't quit. Did you ever have someone in your group of friends that you thought was so funny or so talented and they just gave up yeah i mean i i always kind of answer it this way where people go who's the funniest guy you know and i go you wouldn't know his name right and that's kind of the sad irony of of this business which is i think people treat it in a weird way. They treat it like it's the NBA, like who's the best basketball. Well, the best basketball player is LeBron James or whoever.

But this is a weird business where you could know a LeBron James who never made it to the NBA and is not even on a EuroLeague team. He's not playing in Mexico. Not even playing in China somewhere. Right. Which is impossible in most of those sports. Almost always, if you're that good, you're going to get seen. It's crazy that in this game, it's so possible to not be seen.

Because if you're that talented in sports and you're not found, you've got to be isolated. You're probably a kid on an island playing ball somewhere. Yeah, it's like an 80s movie where Kevin Bacon discovers you in Africa or something like that. That's the only way you'll be found. Or Nolte and Shaq. You're blue chips. You're like this anomaly from somewhere else.

Right. But we all know in comedy, it's sort of like, you know think about like jimmy kimmel is not the funniest human being i've met and i and i don't want people to think that's like he's top five i'm just not saying you know people think it's euphemistically whatever or you're downgraded well he's not that funny no he's super funny yeah but the reason he has been able to have the career he's had is a combination of funny and then this workmanlike mentality, this just kind of pick up your lunch pail and show up every day and never be late and prep, prepare and work. Like this crazy sort of work ethic meets the talent. Yeah.

And I don't think people really factor in that ethic, you know, or the attitude. Totally. Well, also affable. He's so affable. Like, I think there's something about... You can be super talented, but people want to know that people want to know you

and if they feel like they can know you even if you're not you're not they're not really getting to know you which jimmy has a quality like that if they feel like they know you it's you're you're just more lovable for some reason even if that's not the real case right like there's plenty of people on tv or in comedy or film that people think they know but they don't at all and then they find out about them and they're like oh shit i don't know army hammer eats people you know what i mean like you think you you don't really know these people but if they're good at making you feel like you might know them that in itself is a remarkable talent i mean it's manipulative but it's also it's really. It's impressive. And I don't know if he ate people, by the way.

Well, it's manipulative if you're Ellen. Right, right. But if you're Jimmy, he's just being Jimmy. It's him, right. Right. Right. So, and it's, I guess it's what they call it. You know what I mean?

Like, he's got it. Yeah, whatever that bullshit is. Whatever that thing is. It's like they, you know, at a certain point, we're all just kind of animals. And we either like people we don't like people and there's something they exude or give off and we either respond to it or we don't and you know it's good for show business good for politics it's good for it's good for everything and it's good for picking up people at a bar right you know what i mean like if you think about the trait

of being at a bar and seeing a beautiful woman and going up and talking to her the women it's not like about how good looking you are or how tall you are it's like do they feel safe with you like do they feel like so you're saying to them, hey, let's get out of here. And they're like, are you going to dismantle me near the beach? Or are we going to have the best night of our lives? So it's not really about how good looking you are or how tall you are. It's kind of like, what's your vibe? And if you're feeling uncomfortable in your own skin, it's a non-starter. Yeah, that's so true. Well, it's also, Neil Brennan and I were talking about that, about how like, with the new exposure

of the internet, now people see so much more of you than they've ever seen. And really, it's so much vibe. Like talent is such a high, it's such high currency in our business, but also vibe. He was like, vibe is 90% of it at some point now on the internet. Because on the internet, that's all they can feel is your vibe. There's so many talented people that they can see every day thumbing through shit. Do you have the vibe

that they can hold on to? And I thought that was interesting because it's like, yeah, man, I know some super talented people, but they don't have a vibe that's anything other than talent or just pure skill. And you're like, that's why they say when like you love sports it's like there's athletes that i love that i'm like oh i think that guy's so good but man what a drip you know you're like there's nothing to him and it would it be an ascension otherwise because i had a friend that

played pro baseball for four years and i was and he was good i mean he was actually quite talented he got traded new york boston tampa like he moved around and i was like what do you think it was like why do you think you know this is years later i was like why do you think you capped out and it was over he's like i just they didn't they didn't like me i was like what what and he's like i'm quiet i'm introverted and i'm i don't really i don't i didn't belong and so i think that's just as much it is like his vibe was probably shit to them they were like this guy's, he's not what we need in the program. So it's like, that is what I've learned in my career. It's like, where do you fit in the program?

It's like an acting in the Hollywood world. It's like, I know my talent level, but at the end of the day, they're like, oh, do they want to hang out with you? That's really at some point what it is. Do they want to fucking be near you all day for 12, 13 hours? Yeah. Because you can be talented. If not, they're like, get out of here. Well, 100% because like when I was, when we would do the man show, you know, it's like

every year we'd have to, do we want that intern back? Right. Do we want that van driver back? Right. Do we want that AP back? And it was always like, that guy's a douchebag. Right. I don't want to deal with that guy.

Because the job is kind of the job. And most people don't have such an incredibly high skill level that they're irreplaceable or so incompetent that you'll never hire them. Most people live in the middle. And when you're in the middle in terms of competency in performing your task, then it just becomes like, I got to get in the van with this guy and we got to drive to LAX and do a bit. That's 45 minutes. Do I really want to hang out with this guy? Or I love this guy. I mean, we'd had a guy, Adam De La Pena. We hired him as a writer or writer's assistant was my writer's assistant. Then he became a writer. But anyway, he showed up and we'd have guys show up to be like, right. We'd interview him, you know, and they just come into our office and they'd say, I went to Brown

and I was work for the school newspaper and blah, blah, blah. This one guy, Adam De La Pena shows up and he's wearing this super funky Hawaiian shirt. And it's cool, but it looks like a little different. And so me and Jimmy were like, where'd you get that Hawaiian shirt? And he's like, I made it. And we're like, you sewed your own Hawaiian shirt? He said, yes, I did. And we're like, wow.

And he goes, hey, hire me. I'll sew you one too. And we're like, okay, you're hired. You got the job. You got the job. I won't too and we're like okay you're hired you got the job you got jobs i won't gonna read any of your shit but you got the job it'll save us time right well you know the ingenuity of a guy who makes his own fucking hawaiian shirt i'm sure he can write a couple of jokes right there's something in there right so at the end of the day kind of becomes more about that yeah in terms of the submissions some guys guys' writer submissions, you'd read and it's like, this shit is so killer. I don't care how bad this guy is, as far as the hang goes.

Because we'd tape the man show and when we're done on a Friday night, we'd go to the billiards place and order pitchers a beer and shoot pool. And it's like you needed to kind of have a softball game and stuff. Like you'd have to have to be a decent hang, you know, but some guys' stuff would be so good that it wouldn't matter what their hang quotient was. And then if you're so bad, you're not getting hired. But again, like most everyone falls in between those two, so make sure you're a good hang.

Yeah, make sure you're a good hang. That's probably the best advice. And then you learn it too because you're a good hang. Yeah, make sure you're a good hang. That's probably the best advice. And then you learn it too because you're like, I've done enough stuff where you can tell why certain people keep working because they're so good.

They're that above level that you're like, oh, they're so good that they can be kind of a dick or whatever. And it's rare that I come across it, but once in a while you're like, oh yeah, they don't need to hang

because somehow they've ascended above this shitty middle class that we fall into, that I'm somewhere in the middle of. By the way, did you name your child after me? Is that where this came from? We talked briefly about it and I didn't remember it until now. Santino, Sonny.

Always liked the name Sonny. Is it Godfather? Is there a piece of the Godfather that tells the story? You know, probably. Yeah. So the thing with my twins is I named my daughter Natalia because a million years ago when I was hosting Loveline, there was an actress named Natalia Segluti and she was so beautiful. And I remember just thinking, Natalia, it's such a pretty name.

It stuck in my head like from 1997 or something. And she was so fetching. I was like, oh, I just had this positive imagery. So that was that. like oh i just had this positive imagery so that was that uh sunny sentino was um so i here's how dumb people are you know my last name is corolla uh which it sounds pretty italian because it is right so my my family's italian and i'm italian but my stupid parents named me Adam and Adam doesn't fit with the Italian heritage at all so they think I'm Jewish

it's actually kind of funny because I work construction my entire adult life and no one ever mistook me for a Jew as soon as I got into comedy like you're Jewish right and I'm like no I'm not Jewish but it's so funny that stereotypes are true

like there's no jew carpenters got for jesus and there's nothing there was no italian guys on the writing staff but so adam screwed everyone up so they would go adam and adam carolla what's your heritage what kind of name is that and it's like car Carolla. Like if my name was Tony Carolla. It fit. Or Mario Carolla. Nobody Vince Carolla, Vinnie Carolla. Like no one ever. My name was Vinnie Carolla. Everyone would go, hey, paisan.

But Adam screwed everyone up. So I was like, if I ever have a kid, I'm just going to give him a nice Italian name. And then it'll be Santino Carolla. And then we'll know his hair. Then you'll know. Well, I am the other way like you. Andrew is a nothing. I mean, my mother's Irish.

But Andrew isn't an Irish. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm so Irish, it's repulsive. I mean, we look like the map of Ireland. And then my dad's side's all Italian. And Santino, you know, such a strong Italian name, but it's usually a first name because it was my great-grandfather's first name.

Spoke such shit English that he didn't understand what surname was, apparently. So I don't even know what my real last name is. I'm a last name, first name guy. We don't know. I have no idea what it was. And I don't come from smart stock. So obviously, this is just how I got assigned. But Andrew, you know, that's the first cheap joke out of anybody's mouth.

It's always like, Santino, I thought it was going to be, you know, a big old Italian looking ass. Yeah, no, no, no. This is what happens when people have sex that come from, you know, when two people hate their father. This is from different neighborhoods. That's all this is. My real last name is Carollo.

I think they just switched it to Carolla. Yeah, why did they do that so much? Because it didn't really change much. My dad's brother, Ralph, always went by Carollo. Right. And my dad, Jim, went with Carolla. Why? I have no goddamn idea what anyone was thinking.

But that's why I always think that's like when you get married get married too and you take the name and this whole name bullshit discussion i'm always like at this point we should just names don't mean as much as we feel like they do we're not exchanging land anymore there's no dowries and shit right you should just pick a name now i feel like like when i got married it's like well we should just be able to pick a new fun name granted my last name was kind of nice. So I was like, I keep it. But if you had two shit last names, you just pick new names. I feel like you just choose a new name for the child to be then of the new family.

It's not like you're fighting for the shield, the crest of the Corollos any longer. And nobody even knows anymore. Like whoever's real name is, is what, you know, especially in Hollywood, like you just become what you are or, or it doesn't work at all. But either way,

who cares? Yeah. It doesn't matter. Good. Well, the amount of people that change their names too, when they move like that's, that's become like,

I just feel like everyone has a quote unquote stage name, you know? And it, and it's, it's also like, well, I never understood the stage name unless your name was soquote stage name, you know, and it's also like, well, I never understood the stage name unless your name was so hard to pronounce, you know?

It was like Cuskagarian. Well, in radio, they would always do it. Really? Everybody? They do like the St. John's and the St. Clair's and this weird saint stuff. Like lots of people, probably back in the day, there were more fake names in radio than than real names in radio what was the purpose just catchiness and shit i think it was kind of anonymity i didn't

want to be hassled i didn't want people like knowing where they lived or finding out their information and then also just sounding like something that flowed because, you know, you had to have, they would do, it's actually kind of funny because they would do like, they would do the jingles, you know what I mean? And nobody wants to do, now back with Harold Saccharides, you know what I mean? You'd rather have Jamie St. James, you know what I mean? You'd rather have Jamie St. James.

You know what I mean? Because you'd have to hear what it sounded like when you got that little orchestra singing it in the background. Yeah. And, you know, Brad Higginstaller or something didn't just roll off the lips of the chicks from the junior college you hired to do the jingle. Coming back with Brad Higins, Stolenstein.

It didn't work as good as Mary St. Clair. Right. What's interesting to me is now radio and podcasting have kind of become this synonymous universe where

they can be kind of one and the same, especially there's new apps that are popping up where they're trying to make the tie of making these almost one in the same because for a while radio has phased out but now i feel like it this is new radio anyway it's just it's just a different way to receive the medium yeah i don't it doesn't seem prudent to me to even define how you're hearing people. Right. You know, you just want to hear who you want to hear. Sure.

And sort of when you want to hear them. But it doesn't matter if it's a, you know, terrestrial radio show that you download or a podcast that you download. When I started out, there was a lot of talk about getting cars, being enabled to have the internet and stuff like that. And no one really knew that everyone was just going to have everything they wanted on their phone. And then your car was just going to speak to your phone. We thought the car has to have it. We didn't really think in terms of the phone has to have it

and then the car will hear it from the phone and then tell you that way. So it's just, the new world order is, I don't even know what stations my shows that I enjoy watching are on per se. Right. You know, there used to be like, for instance, it doesn't really exist anymore. But when we were doing TV back in the day, a big deal was your lead in. Right.

You know, who was before you. Who was before you. And then, you know, your show would get shitty ratings and you go well that's because that shitty tim allen show's leading into you know we got no lead in you know if we had seinfeld leading us in right we do just explaining to my kids that they should kind of listen to the show that comes on after the show they like because it's there. Right. Because they're too lazy to get up and change the channel or whatever. Just think about that notion of like, well, I'm going to listen to the song after the song I like

or I'm going to watch the show. It doesn't exist. No. Everything is completely piecemeal. It's all a la carte now. Yeah, yeah. It's a big buffet. Entertainment has become a big, huge buffet.

Like you said, there's no – I don't know. A lot of things I've watched – I said this last night, we were watching something, I was like, what is that on? Is that on Netflix or on HBO? And she was like, I think it's Amazon. And I was like, yeah, who the fuck, at this point, it's wherever it is, it is, and I'm going to just digest it, I guess. There's no affinity for any of these places anymore not only that, I say to people is that on ESPN? It's on ESPN Go and I'm like, what's Go? that's where you are with ESPN but regular ESPN? no, ESPN Go Plus you have to be on ESPN Go Plus

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That's how I feel about everything is now so i don't even i like i said again same thing i go it's on what is amazon is that our account or are we using our friends account i don't even know anymore i think i've i think half of my shit is somebody else's shit i i it's so but on the other hand i've always been like look i just want to come up with the ideas i want to craft the bits i want to do the interviews i want to say what i want to say and like the other whatever the technical like i don't care if i sound like grandpa carolla i don't i don't care i just i want to do the creative stuff i want to do the content stuff as far as the distribution and what platform it's on and you know have i checked my facebook page today or whatever i let the kids sure handle that well when you say that grandpa

corolla when you make that joke do you is there any fear of of of phasing out, of being like undercut by whatever the new shit is that's underneath you or no? I don't really have, I didn't ever enter this with a lot of sort of pre-thoughts. Like, you know, people say, how did you know podcasting was going to work, you know, or whatever, 12 years ago. I was like, I didn't know anything. I just wanted to talk, you know, I just sat down and wanted to talk, you know, and they go, but how, but you must've known this, or when did you know, like, there's way too much talk about like, when did you know? What did you know? What did you think you would know? What, what didn't you know? And I'm like, look, I just got into this to talk. And I'm completely blessed that I was able to make a living talking. I used to make a living swinging a hammer, you know.

And it was kind of funny. Something I'll always remember is I was at the Acme Theater a million years ago. I built the Acme Theater on Lancashire and noho in like 1991 or something well you mean you physically built it yeah well because i was a carpenter so we needed to build the theater so they didn't have any money so they went to the one dude yeah they're like please it's a building we're broke experience yeah i did a good job it's still there still adler theater i think it is now but my my program director sounds like a radio thing my theater director Mark Sweeney we were friends and I'd been doing Acme for like three years you know and I just said to him like

what do you think am I a writer am I a talent am I an actor like what am I? Because this is 1993 at the time. And he's like, you just need a job where you just talk all day into a microphone. And I'm like, oh, thank you for inventing a non... You need a job. You need a unicorn. You need to impregnate women from the sky. It's like, oh, thank thank you i'm trying to get laid right but where's your unicorn like i was like he distilled me down to so he invented

podcasting in a weird way in 1993 like he's you just need a place you can go and just talk all day just vent about what's going on and what's happening and what you're thinking or what your take is and i'm like i get it but there's at the time there's nothing but sitcoms and and soap operas and you know comic books that to do and so it always stuck in my head i was like you're right yeah i know i'm right and so it was this weird kind of fantasy job and at some point it just became my reality like what what he was talking about doing in 19 you know circa 92 93 is exactly what we're doing right now yeah yeah he so shout out to mark sweeney for being the inventor of it all uh well shout out mark sweeney i appreciate you coming adam um i know you're on a tight schedule and And congrats on the 3,000th episode.

I think that's incredible, man, honestly. Oh, and I did want to say, because I hate it when I don't compliment people. They don't need to. Authentic. I loved I'm Dying Up Here. Thanks, man. I love, you know, people always say, what do you watch? What do you watch?

What do you watch? It's like I watch SportsCenter and TMZ and UFC or whatever. I don't have a lot of shows religiously watch that show oh thank you thought you were great in it i i and i'm not gonna go like what happened to that show i've done a thousand shows what happened to the whatever i don't know i don't even know what happened oh the business i mean it's just do them and they're done but but it was great it was a great show and you were great thank you in it and uh i saw you do a set at the Ice House a year and a quarter ago or whatever,

and I thought you were great as well. Oh, thank you very much. So I wanted to definitely make sure I got that out there before the mics went cold. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to cut that off before. We're not putting that in.

We end the show the same way. You look at the camera, you say one word or one phrase when I'm off camera to end the episode and it's going to be it forever so you say it when I'm off go ahead paradoxical in here we pour whiskey

whiskey whiskey whiskey whiskey you're that creature in the ginger beard sturdy ginger like vampires the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no.

This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.