Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Alexandra Daddario

Episode Date: January 25, 2019

Santino sits down with Alexandra Daddario to chat about horse cops, baywatch and a movie that never got made Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:51 I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests. Don't be flattered. But it's Alexandra Daddario. Yay! Yay!
Starting point is 00:01:04 Excuse me because I'm sweating profusely because we've been running around finishing the studio. But doesn't it look kind of nice? It looks really great. Yeah, right? Yeah, very professional. Yeah, very profosh. Very profosh is what we say in the business.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You asked to drink today. I said I wasn't going to, but since you're a violent alcoholic. You sort of offered. I did. Yeah, I did. When I looked up your podcast, I was like, oh my God, but since you're a violent alcoholic. You sort of offered. I did. I definitely did. Yeah, I did. When I looked up your podcast, I was like, oh my God, is this my excuse to drink whiskey In the middle of the day?
Starting point is 00:01:29 At noon. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Cheers. Cheers. This is Michter's. Great.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It's delicious and it's good for you. Okay. Are you going to go over the mic? Like this? There you go. Mmm. Great. Is that good? So good
Starting point is 00:01:47 I like how you approved it With the camera Great First of all I want to talk about A lot of stuff with you Okay How we know each other
Starting point is 00:01:55 All sorts of jazz Look at your cool shoes though I'm wearing very cool shoes Show the cam So they can see what those are They have superheroes on them Yeah those are tight Are they Marvel shoes?
Starting point is 00:02:04 I can't really tell Yes It's Marvel's. Official Vans Marvels. It's Marvel's. They teamed up with Vans. Yeah. Yes, obviously. Yes. I don't know if they're still selling them, but they're super cool. Let's just pretend like they're super exclusive. Yeah, they made them just for me. Just for Alex, just for Hollywood people. So all you normal people don't get them. No, they probably have super access to them. Yeah. I think most anyone with, you know, a hundred bucks has access to these shoes. Not a lot of people have a hundred bucks these days. That's true. That's true. I am. Yes. You won percenter. Oh God. Snowflakes. Snowflakes. So we know each other. Let's give people some background to a lot of different stuff. First
Starting point is 00:02:44 of all, you're an extremely accomplished actress, a talented human being. You don't think so? Look, I'm pretty proud of myself. I would be if I was you. Let me put myself in your shoes real fast. Okay. Can I have your shoes? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:57 No, let me put myself in your shoes. You've done, how many films have you done? 50? No, 50. 50? I don't think 50. I've done, how many films have you done? 50? No, 50. 50? I don't think 50. I've done a lot. I couldn't actually count it up.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I'm at that point where I've done so many, I don't know how many I've done. So you've done a lot. But not 50. No. But like how many next year? Two, three? I'd say three a year for you, right?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Lately, I've been working. I mean, the thing that happened was that, you know, as an act, and I've been acting since I was a little kid. How old, when did you start acting? Like 10. I would go on like commercial audition. I was very cute. What happened?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, well. Lost it all. Well, I'll tell you. Drugs and alcohol. I was not cute for a portion of time you know my awkward teenage years and then i came out on the other side okay but um yeah i mean it's been a long road of not working and struggling and being like is this even a career like what is you know what am i doing you almost feel embarrassed to call yourself an actor because you're bartending or you're doing something else and people give you weird looks and sort of judge you.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And then all of a sudden you're like years go by and you work and work and work. And then all of a sudden the last like two, three years I've been busy. You're like I'm like a working actress. Yeah. You're proud to say it now. Yeah. I mean, it's very, very cool. But people don't know you are still bartending at the Palm just for fun.
Starting point is 00:04:23 That's right. That's just like a side. I don't even know if I could get't know you are still bartending at the Palm just for fun. That's right. That's just like a sidekick. I don't even know if I could get that job. Getting a bartending job in this town is impossible. It's easier to get on a series. It's easier to get a reoccurring role on something. That's right. It's easier to book a studio movie than to get a bartending job in this town.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So when you were 10, did your parents force you into it? Or were you like, I want to do it? No, not at all. It was like totally accidental I mean I grew up in New York City and like I think some my manager who was my long-term manager when I was a kid saw me in the audience at some play I don't know why I was you know one of these you know my parents just just like would bring me to all kinds of stuff and give me all kinds of opportunities you were cultured.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's right. Yeah. Did you grow up in the city of New York? Yeah, I grew up on the Upper East Side. My parents are lawyers. Dope. And so they were like, we want to give our kids all these different opportunities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So one of the things they sent me to was acting lessons because this manager thought I was cute, wanted to send me out to, you know, commercial auditions. That's always so weird, by the way. When like a grown man is like, your daughter's cute. It was a woman. Oh, okay, thank God.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah. So it wasn't as weird. Yeah, but that's a thing in Hollywood all the time. totally. Where like these managers are like, where I was out at a restaurant and some dude walked by
Starting point is 00:05:35 to the couple next to us and they had like a little daughter. Yeah. And the guy was like, oh, I'm a talent agent and a model scout and your daughter's so cute
Starting point is 00:05:43 and it like made me nauseous as fuck. I was like, this is so gross. That's weird. Well, but here's what's really sad. He was kind of attractive. So I like, I kind of gave him a little bit of a pass because we do that. Like if he was ugly and weird, then you're like, fucking let's kill him. Right. But for some reason he was like kind of handsome. And I was like, maybe he's legit. I know that sounds so gross, but. No, I mean, it's, I mean, it's like, is he being legit or, I mean it's I mean it's like is he being legit or I mean you should sort of have like a female counterpart to go do those nowadays yeah nowadays you have to yeah you can't go over and be like your 10 year old daughter is just gorgeous oh my god can I
Starting point is 00:06:17 can I take a picture of her right now right that's so great I'm gonna need to take a series of photos to send to my agency for approval yeah Yeah. Why are you posting them online? That's the agency. So when you were 10, you started acting. You were very cultured. But your parents are both lawyers. Did they meet in litigation? That's in my brain.
Starting point is 00:06:34 They met in law school at Georgetown. Ooh, nice. Yeah. So, I mean, the end of this boring story is basically that's how I took acting lessons and I was sent out and I auditioned until I booked work. What year did you move to L.A.? 2009. Here for good?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Here for good. Yeah, I moved in 2009 and, you know, now it's... Do you miss New York? 10 years. I do, yes. I just came from there. Yeah. We were trying to do this earlier and I just didn't come back from New York.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You never came back. You never came back. I never came back. You just stayed. That's right. What is it that kept you in New York? Were you filming something? I was filming something in New York. And then once we wrapped, I just like could not bring myself to come back to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Because you love New York so much. I just, I loved New York. I was like, just one of the great things about my job is that I work about half the year. And then the other half, I don't have to work, which is crazy. That's so nice. People at home are so angry to hear that.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm very, very lucky. So I can just be like, I'm going to hang out in New York and just run around and kick it for two, three extra months. And that was cool. And then I was ready to come back to LA. What was the film that you were, what were you shooting in New York?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Can you say? I was shooting, it was a film called Can You Keep a Secret based on a Sophie Kinsella novel. It's a romantic comedy with Tyler Hoechlin, who's a very handsome man from Teen Wolf and Everybody Wants Some and Laverne Cox
Starting point is 00:08:11 and a bunch of other great. Can you keep a secret? I can. Should I tell you some stuff off air and see if you can keep it? Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It'll get back to you in like two days. Yeah, I'm like, Alex, what the fuck? I mean, I can keep a secret but I will make the end judgment whether it's something that i really think i shouldn't tell or not are you a judge
Starting point is 00:08:29 isn't that how we all do that yeah yeah but are you a judgy person when someone tells you a secret no i don't think i'm judgmental you just are you're you're uh you're deciding whether or not it's worth it to talk i'm like i you know what you think that that secret's not worth me telling other people but i don't think it's that big of a deal. So I'm going to go ahead and tell other people. Isn't that how everybody does that? Like everybody tells everybody like they're like, I can tell this one person this secret.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I trust this one. When they said don't tell anyone, they didn't mean for me to not tell my, you know. When they say don't tell anybody, that means tell someone. Right. And they say, please don't tell anybody. That means tell everyone you know. Right.. When they say please don't tell anybody, that means tell everyone you know. And when they say I swear to God,
Starting point is 00:09:09 this is just like only you can know this, that means fucking call a press outlet and tell everybody on there. The more intense they are about not talking about it, that just means to me that they're like tell everyone. Like somebody just told me something in a bar a couple of nights ago, a friend, about a friend of a friend that we both mutually know and I'm not gonna leak names because it's not my shit,
Starting point is 00:09:24 but a secret about someone from back home pregnant from so-and-so and so-and-so. Right. But all they were doing was telling me because they wanted me to somehow get it back to the friend that we both mutually know. Oh, sure. It was very strategic.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I was like, this is such a fucking strategy. Yeah, it was a chess move. Yeah. And I haven't until now. So, no. I let it loose. But look. Just tell me and I let it loose. But look. Just tell me and I'll tell everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I will. You seem to be like you're going to keep it a secret. So I'll tell you. I've murdered 15 people in California alone. Yeah. That's exciting. Yeah. Just with my angst.
Starting point is 00:09:55 You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Just I'm nervous. Wow. My anxiety killed. It's like a superpower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I'm just like, people just die right away. So we met. This is kind of wild. we met because we were going to do a movie together it never ended up working out we wrote this movie we sat down um you kind of wanted to do it lil rel howie kind of wanted to do it and we couldn't get it off the ground i couldn't believe it because i liked it so much and i really wanted you in it because i thought you'd be perfect on it but this blossomed from it so i guess good things come good things do yeah i mean it was
Starting point is 00:10:25 that script was very funny and can we talk about who was no we shouldn't talk about details of i mean i don't know i don't yeah i don't really hide anything from the viewers but i really don't give a shit i mean unless it's i'm not trying to slander anybody basically it was just very funny yeah it was a funny script it was good it was great i like to say it was a desert-based fantasy comedy about best friends who employ you. Yes. And your superhero father. That's right. Your super larger-than-life action star hero father to save the day, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Right. I wanted you to be this hero, you know? I wanted you to be a hero. I know? I wanted you to be a hero. I watched some of his action movies. Pretty incredible. For the first time after meeting you. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:11:13 It's crazy, right? Oh, it's so incredible. We can say who it was. People can guess. I feel like it'll be the mystery of the project. Oh, this'll be good. Yeah, who is it? Who is it?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, it's, yeah, I'm not gonna say who it is, but right, yeah, we wrote it that you were his daughter. I would say is that he never gets injured. No, yeah. There's really, there's no competition. No. There's none. No.
Starting point is 00:11:32 That was something I was like, is he gonna even? It's like Bruce Lee, how Bruce Lee kind of never got, well, no, Bruce Lee did get fucked up, actually, now that I think about it. But it just, he was, his films, he's very evasive. That's right. Yeah, he's very evasive. Extremely, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah. Okay, let's talk a little bit of shit. How about that? Okay. What film have you done that you really didn't like? Whether it was the film itself or the process or something else. You know what I've enjoyed? I mean, I've had some bad experiences on films.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But I find that you always Sort of find something Oh god I don't even know How to answer this question Not politically correctly I know Like look I wish I could be honest
Starting point is 00:12:11 I know nobody can anymore But I can't Like actors Like we're not allowed To like say See but isn't this so See this is like a good point I want to talk about
Starting point is 00:12:19 This is the reason That like comics now Are opening up so much And talking shit About the truth really Kind of how like, you know, kind of how the Me Too movement was birthed
Starting point is 00:12:27 that people were like keeping secrets for so long. But it was secrets that they shouldn't have kept, right? Kind of like when someone's a piece of shit on set or someone's an asshole or someone's a torrential dick to work with, now more than ever, it will slowly continue. But like people should be like,
Starting point is 00:12:42 yo, you know what project sucked? This, because this guy's a fucking asshole and no one wants to talk about it right but because of our business you blanket yeah it's fucked up and even i mean it's it's just like you're not you're not i mean and the whole you know me too thing is you know i get that feeling of like i can't piss this person in a position of power off they may have hit on me and made me uncomfortable on set, but that's not a crime. They didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Well, that isn't a crime, but it depends on what level you take things to, right? Right. Like, at what point can you actually be like, this person's a dick, but like, is there really a point in, you know, depending on what level it's at. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:13:20 You sort of, you just sort of, it's a job, and sometimes people aren't going to get along, and people are dicks, and you just have to sort of, there is sort of, it's a job. And sometimes people aren't going to get along and people are dicks. And you just have to sort of, there is sort of like, you don't want to, it's hard to deal with the repercussions of speaking up. I mean, totally. I mean, that's what I think. That's why I say like comics, people are like, oh, aren't you afraid what you say? I'm like, this is the best for me.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Because now I'm able to say it. And if they have anything to say about it, it's like, I'm a comedian. Our whole job is to mock things talk shit about sensitive issues and people can get mad about it but the point is
Starting point is 00:13:49 somebody needs to be talking about it and I feel like we're the only we're like the last orators that are allowed to kind of talk about shit
Starting point is 00:13:55 because musicians actors any live performer they're protecting themselves because they're protecting their brand but our brand is somewhat honesty
Starting point is 00:14:06 I mean to a degree so do you feel like you have not been able to you censor yourself more than you would have last year I used to I used to censor myself a bunch but like slowly but surely I've censored myself less and less and less because I'm becoming more confident and more
Starting point is 00:14:22 you know I don't know my career is going better so I feel like in the sense of it's going better because I'm becoming more confident and more, you know, I don't know, my career is going better. So I feel like in the sense of it's going better because I don't give a fuck as much about what somebody's gonna say about me because I'm just telling my truth. That's my angle from it. And if they don't like it, okay, you don't have to work with me.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But there's a bunch of other people that will work with me because they probably do like it. You know what I mean? There's this old coin of like, you know, if nobody hates you, there's something wrong like, you know, if nobody hates you, there's something wrong as a comic. Like if nobody hates you, if everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:14:49 he's the best. It's like, that's a little weird. Everybody likes you. Right. So to have like a little bit of hate or backlash or I don't agree with what he says and I don't like that he says that stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:58 That's kind of a positive thing because it's like, yeah, good. We should be that way. Like, I don't want to get too political, but my biggest beef with politics is like, if you're so far left or so far right i don't like either of you right that's my personal opinion i think super leftists and super righties are
Starting point is 00:15:14 obnoxious assholes because they're so staunch in their opinion it's like we should all be somewhere in the middle right we should all be a little bit more of a mixed bag less than this whole uh i stand by this regardless. It's like, that's an insane idea. You wouldn't do that for anything else in your life. No, of course not. So I think that's, you know, that has transferred to a part of our business
Starting point is 00:15:34 that's, you know, it causes a lot of problems, but it also is opening up more doors of truth, I guess. Right. You know? Yep. Now that we're done being very serious, let's talk about, let's talk about Hitler no let's talk about something real serious no you're you um you did you did a movie that I went to see in the theater called San Andreas sure you're gonna do it again well yeah I mean Dwayne's schedule is so busy. Dwayne is the rock. People don't know that that's his ring. I'm sorry, the rock.
Starting point is 00:16:06 For the layman, they don't know. Dwayne the Rock Johnson. So yeah, I mean, I know that that's on line and everything that we're doing San Andreas too, but I have not heard officially one way or the other. Sure, that's how it always works. I mean, you never know. I mean, you can be attached to films
Starting point is 00:16:21 and then it just never happens. That's so weird to me. Right. That somebody said that you are, but you're really not. Yeah. I mean, I am,
Starting point is 00:16:29 but it's like, is the film going to actually get made? You don't know. Is he too busy? Yeah, probably too busy is probably what you should have said. I mean, I think people can tell how I have,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I can tell that he's very busy. Yeah. It's almost like, uh, was he a nice guy to you? He's extremely nice. You're going to say yes, no matter what. No, but I would, I mean, I, you Yeah, it's almost like, was he a nice guy to you? He's extremely nice. You're going to say yes no matter what. No, but I would, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:48 I can, I hate to, my least favorite thing is to go on a press junket and just be like, oh my God. I know, see, that's the hardest thing. Everyone is so great. I love everything. When you just want to, you know, like you just want to sit around and tell,
Starting point is 00:17:02 I hate bullshitting, but no, I'm not bullshitting he's he's cool he's i mean he's exact i don't think he'd be able to be where he is if he wasn't incredibly cool did you get swole with him did you get jacked with him i got swole you got jacked did you work out with with the rock did you ever work out i didn't work out with him that'd be so fun to work out with him i worked out on a beach near him. Okay. I mean, on Baywatch, we, everyone, we were just constantly working out. Yeah. That seemed like everybody was.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Did you eat food on the show? I ate a lot of food. You know what happened was I was on this, I was in incredible shape. I've never looked better in my life. I did all these photo shoots. So now that's, that's going to be around forever, which is great. So I don't have to get into that kind of shape again. So now you can just get super fat.
Starting point is 00:17:47 That's right. But I got into incredible shape. And like a week into shooting, I was just like, I can't, it'll last. And like a week into shooting, I just gave up. I was drinking, eating cheeseburgers. Living like a human being. That's right. Because it was just too much for me to keep up.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Well, that's kind of like how I feel. Like I work out almost every day, but it's only so I can eat and drink and do what I want. Right. Like I don't ever want to have that Hollywood restriction that's like, I like, like have friends that go to lunch with me and I'm like, I'm not saying get like a grease pit of shit to eat for lunch, but like, we don't always, you don't always have to have a salad. Like you can also get a sandwich sometimes.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on, you know, look, I'm pretty lucky in that I can eat. You've always been thin. Yeah, I've always been. I mean, I have been in bad shape, but, you know. Oh, we know. We've seen. I mean, obviously not. But like, I think you get obsessed and you're just like.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And everybody around you is obsessed. And you're just, and the more obsessed everyone else is, the more you become obsessed. And then you get sick of yourself. You get sick of everyone else being obsessed. Like, like Efron was so cut up. He looked like a mannequin. It looked like, it looked fake. He was so cut up.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I mean, I've never seen. It's like he didn't drink water for like a month and a half. I've never seen a human being look like that. No, neither have I. I mean, I've never seen. It's like he didn't drink water for like a month and a half. I've never seen a human being look like that. No, neither have I. I mean, it's just not, it's not. It's not human? He is that diligent of a. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Like when he gets focused on something, he's. He's all in. Yeah. Yeah, he's a cool cat. I've run into him a few times. He's a really nice guy and he's a very focused human being. Extremely. That's a good word.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Focused. Yes. And a nice guy. But also a very focused human being extremely that's a good word focused yes and a nice guy but also very focused yes yeah this is like all in where you're like yeah that's incredible i don't know how you could like i've tried to get abs my whole life and i can only get the i can get the um you know the v the line i can get the v yeah that's like the sex trough i don't know what you want to call that that's like the whatever that is that's like the sex trough. I don't know what you want to call that. That's like the, whatever that is. That's like a dustpan, like the fuck dustpan. But I can't get abs.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I think it's just my Irish body doesn't do that. I don't think I'm allowed to have abs. Nobody in Ireland ever had fucking abs. I'll tell you, women, we don't really care about abs. Women do care about abs. Don't you say that. I think that is a male myth. Okay, so if a guy takes off a shirt and he has and he has a a
Starting point is 00:20:05 a flat stomach with no abs you you're you were just as attracted to that as a guy who had zach's body yeah i i was talking about this with a girlfriend of mine the other night like i think met like the like women we don't really care we just we want to like get along with someone and like i know but the physical connection has to be there too yeah but you can have a physical connection with a bad body yeah have you ever dated someone with a bad body yeah name them no i'm kidding mike lowfield of of but not a bad but it's not a bad body i mean i it's not it's not. It's just not like this conventional. It's a normal guy's body.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah, like I don't think that like, I think that that's way, I mean, maybe there are, I know, I mean, I guess for me personally and my friend who I was talking to about it the other day, like we don't care one way or the other. Right, well, women are way less shallow when it comes to looks.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah, well, I certainly think men are probably way into the flat stomach and the whole thing. But as you get older, I think, as a male, like as I've gotten older,
Starting point is 00:21:14 you find certain schlubby things attractive. It's hard to describe. Interesting. Sometimes schlubbiness is hot. Right. Like someone not trying so hard. Yeah, it's kind of hot.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like sometimes there's something really, well, especially because we are inundated in LA with like hot bodies. So like sometimes when I see like someone that's like not trying, but also like they're shapely, you know, they're. Yeah. It's kind of sexy. Yeah. I know it is very sexy.
Starting point is 00:21:42 What am I saying? It's very sexy. It's sexy because it's like, it's different. And it's honest. And it's a little bit like, fuck sexy. Yeah. I know it is very sexy. What am I saying? It's very sexy. It's sexy because it's like, it's different. Great. And it's honest and it's a little bit like, fuck it. Right. Not like, fuck it, like, you know, I have diabetes, fuck it. Like, you know, I'm just.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Right, sure. I'm just, you know, living my life and like, yeah, this sucks, but I like beer sometimes. And like that kind of thing is sexy. I think as you get older as a guy, when you're a young dude, you're like. Yeah. Fucking hot chicks, dude. Fucking fake tits. I think think dudes love that shit and then you kind of grow a little bit out of that right phase well that's good to hear as i get older as i enter my mid you're gonna be i don't think you're gonna enter that world of like i mean although i would love to look back
Starting point is 00:22:19 in 20 years and that you ballooned up you know I mean? That you've gotten so fat and you're like, Santino told me, guys are still going to love me now that I've given up. I mean, I can't feel my feet and I have, you know, psoriasis. Look, I mean, I'm into being healthy. Yeah. But I think like, you know, it almost feels like I've gone through this like hot portion of my career. You think it's over?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Well, no. like hot portion of my career you think it's over well no it's just like i feel like i was always like a nerdy kid and guys didn't want to date me which everyone rolls their eyes that they're like oh that's so annoying well here let me cut you off real fast though explain the nerdy thing because people always say oftentimes guys roll their eyes because some a girl goes i was a nerd i was it's like but what made you a nerd because when someone goes i was a nerd i like to read it's like yeah i hope so most people like oh god i don't made you a nerd you i just was i don't know i mean i'm still like like just awkward and like like i think you're a fucking huge nerd okay i think you're a dork great i mean the people who know me well they're like a little i basically i mean i don't know what really, I just wasn't cool.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I wasn't like hot. Were you an outcast as a kid? I wasn't an outcast. I just like had like not, like I was like in the like dork crowd, like cool kids, like guys didn't want to date. Like I was just nerdy. What was your nerdiest thing? Like we had uniforms at my school and like all the cool kids would roll their skirts up or have their mom like my skirt was like the one down below my knees and I was wearing an ill-fitting shirt and my braces and like goofing around telling dumb jokes and being too loud and like. Maybe you were cute but not you were just a cute dorky kid.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah I mean I sure I was cute but. I mean I don't know I'd have to see I I'm sure I was like pretty adorable except when I was being super annoying but I think I think I yeah so I never had guys and then and then I and then I you know I got started doing movies and then I I you know I was sort of a struggling actress even after I did this big movie Percy Jackson. And then I booked True Detective and then all of a sudden everyone was like, she's the sexiest woman on earth. And I was like. That's cool though, right?
Starting point is 00:24:37 I was like, cool. Yeah, that is cool. What is this about? I felt like I couldn't live up to it. I thought it was a cool thing. Did you not feel sexy prior to that no I mean I I I didn't have a real sense of of any of that no are you are you aware of it now or no is it still kind of something that you're far more aware of it I'm not uncomfortable with it I think it's cool and I think it does it I just I thought it was like
Starting point is 00:25:04 this weird role that I got to play for a couple years. You're a great character actor playing someone attractive. When you take off your mask. No, I'm just saying like for, it was just like, like between Baywatch and True Detective, it was just like very like, like, you know, they were, you know, it was just,
Starting point is 00:25:22 that was what I was known for. Totally. Do you, do you want, is there something in your career that's coming next that you're wanting to make a transition away from those kinds of things? It's not that I'm actively trying to make a transition away. I'm really grateful to be working. I think if I can work in that, if I can play the like Baywatch role, I mean, that's great for me. It's fun. I think it's cool. Um cool um i have just naturally started to do different kinds of stuff um uh there's a movie coming out called we have always lived in the castle that i did um where i play very ominous titles of the films that you're doing it's surely jackson secret yeah
Starting point is 00:25:59 do you live in a castle yeah the gnome runs underneath the bridge i don't know what's what's the next crazy long titled film Right the ominous portion Yeah that's cool though You said Percy Jackson No Percy Jackson was the first big film I did We've Always Lived in the Castle is this movie that's coming out That where I'm Like it's more of a
Starting point is 00:26:18 Character it's just I think A natural transition like I want to do more I want to do different kinds of stuff totally every actor says that what's your dream gig hosting the tonight show is what you're saying that's interesting i wouldn't have picked you for that my dream gig i don't know i want to i i don't think i could do one thing like one reason why i've been terrified of television of network tv it's not even like network tv is so great because it's consistency you're in one place you get paid well and you you know you have a job year after year it terrifies
Starting point is 00:26:51 me because i'm terrified of doing one thing right the monotony might get to you yeah yeah no it is it is quite difficult actually like my dream situation is what i'm doing now is just jumping around film the place to place yeah different thing to different now do you take time to do indie shit or do you mainly focus on doing studio pictures I've been doing indie more independent films recently lately right because you did you have done a lot of studio films yeah I basically exclusively jumped into studio films that's cool without even doing yeah I mean I got very lucky i've had a weird trajectory yeah we've all been saying that's very weird very weird well there's no one way i guess there's no
Starting point is 00:27:29 one way to do it right so many people go from indie to studio and then maybe back to indie i feel like that's a natural thing that i see often is like a lot of actors will will start something small and then they'll get a big film or an indie blew up and then they get big films and then someone some somewhere in their career they're like i kind of want to do indie again yeah because indies are so cool i mean i think they're i think the reason that actors like them the reason that like i've enjoyed doing the ones that i've done is because they're so much more personable they feel more like it feels like there's more love there now granted the money is way worse the schedules are fucking insane nobody's pampering you you know what i mean you get pampered and you feel great when you do
Starting point is 00:28:09 big shit because right they treat you so well right so you sacrifice all that stuff to kind of feel more low to the ground though there is something nice about you know that's that's what i do for for a living like comedy so dirt low to the ground that it like that's why i think a lot of comics have a tough time if they do act transferring into studio shit because it's kind of tidy and tightened up and studio comedies aren't really loose anymore no no you know so that's really hard like when's the last time you saw an award show that had the comedy category and actually awarded a comedy i know it's true yeah they're like it's I fucking when uh the Martian one like wasn't the Martian it was yeah and then um comedy fantasy tourist they grouped as a comedy like what are you talking
Starting point is 00:28:50 about I mean I think that studio films and there's something great about like the corporateness of it because if you work on enough indies and you've there people running it don't know what they're doing then you can really get you're like god can we get a lawyer or an accountant? Can we get a bottle of water would be nice. Can we get someone over here to sort of like monitor what's going on? But then on the flip side, a studio film can be so controlled and so lawyered up and so like having so much, that I can imagine for a comedian who just wants to go off
Starting point is 00:29:20 and have fun, that it's way too controlled. Well I think comedian's biggest beef is like the script is one way and this is something i'm going to ask you and i am going to pull i want to pull something tiny out of you like this but like yeah this isn't a negative thing right so i'll preface that but occasionally you'll read something and then when it's shooting script it's so much different that you're a little let down oh sure like like have you read a script that was so good that when you shot it not that it wasn good, it was just so different that you were like, man, I really like this iteration instead of the change. It hasn't been like that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's been more. Yeah. I mean, in its execution, I've had I think that in its execution on a big film and I've seen look, I've had films. I mean, I know Baywatch was like this, and so was Percy Jackson. Some of the bigger films, you get new pages in every single day. They change every day. And sometimes they'll make a decision, like we need to change the last third of this entire film.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And they'll decide that during shooting. So then you have a bunch of people just panicking, trying to figure out why did we do this change? How do we hire these people? And they're trying to put something together that hasn't really been thought through. We're in the middle of production. Everyone's exhausted.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You have a bunch of people in LA and we're wherever we are, New Orleans. And you just feel like you don't really even know what it is you're shooting. You're just sort of upon your prop, an expensive prop and this set. And that's you just feel like you don't really even know what it is you're shooting. You're just sort of upon your prop, an expensive prop on this set. And that's fine. That's your job. I mean, I'm pretty I'm pretty like, you know, as an actor, it's your job to you're hired to to perform a task like anyone else, whether you like it or not.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like, unfortunately, you're a bit at the mercy of of the people in charge and I think that I've I've been getting producer credits on a couple of my recent films which allows me a little bit more control and a little more insight into how things but really no one really listens to you as an actor I mean I I think they'll placate you and it depends what position of power you're on on a set. But the movie I'm referring to specifically where it was like we changed the last third of the entire film and you're just like, okay, like here I go.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like there's nothing I can say or, you know. Did you enjoy it? Yeah. Or was it like painstaking to get through the end of it? No, I enjoy it. Look, I, again, I really have a very, I am so grateful to be a working actress that I pretty much will. Lately, I, I really stand up for things.
Starting point is 00:31:53 If I see people doing things that are not treating people with respect or not, um, not being professional or, or really just not doing the right thing do you see that often um i've seen it a couple of times where you're just like i think that we're forgetting that this is an office right it's all fun and games because we're making a movie and that's oh my god we're making a movie and we're all very excited but we don don't know what, this is a business, there's a lot of money put into this. It's not all fun and games. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Like you can't just sort of like piecemeal things together without really following the rules. You can do that a little bit as long as everyone's on board, but sometimes you see like a little bit of, this is on more independent films. Totally, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:44 well, that happens all the time yeah indie films are kind of just yeah you know you don't you like i showed up you show up to an indie field sometimes you're like hey is there um is there an ad here that i can talk to and they're like not no we haven't seen him in a couple days we don't know maybe yeah you're like where am i supposed to go and they're like you can hang out in the kitchen if you want for an hour and a half i mean that that's one thing that happens like that's fine I think that's kind of fun yeah but I'm talking about like when people are just like as long as people sometimes don't treat each other with respect and well that's a that's a common theme in our
Starting point is 00:33:16 business right so um but you know I just sort of go along for the ride you gotta like the but if you if you try to control anything in this business it's not gonna it's not gonna happen the only thing i think you can control is when you make your own product and if it's all independently you yeah like you know like this is great nobody can tell me shit i can do whatever i want i can speak to who i want yeah i get interesting people that i want to get great stories out of and talk about their lives and their career and like i don't have to worry about someone going, you know what we need to talk about with them?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Like, I love that it doesn't, that doesn't exist for me. But that is kind of why comics, I think, do podcasts. I think it's why that's like a thing now, because we need, like, there needs to be more outlets for artists, creators, actors, musicians, whatever, to talk shit or speak their truth or talk about nothing at all. And it's still kind of nice instead of like, you really are kind of worried whenever you work on a job. Like I did
Starting point is 00:34:11 a sitcom for ABC and I remember them talking to us pretty diligently about making sure our Twitter was, and this is years ago, this is before how, how angry everybody is now about everything. This is prior to Kevin Hart's Twitter. But I mean, they were just like, you know, checking your feet and they wanted to make sure that you weren't saying anything that the mouse wouldn't like, you know? And it was like, it's so strange, because you're like, I am who I am.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But if you are gonna separate the person and the artist, you're paying me when I'm doing your television show to be that thing. But when I'm done and it's my life and my world, I should be able to do what I want within reason. I'm not gonna say like, you know, I'm not going to start hate groups online. But I mean, you know, you should be able to kind of be who you are. And I think there's a weird restrictive nature of the business that likes to keep you in
Starting point is 00:34:54 this thing that's like, you know, you still are kind of a representation of Universal Studios. So you have to kind of do that. It's a little strange, right? Right. Only when you're old and you're living in Vegas or Palm Springs and the guy from Variety
Starting point is 00:35:08 comes out to interview you and you're smoking a cigarette, I can see you now on your patio and you're angry as shit and you're talking shit about all the actors that you work with.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I can say everything. I can say all the secrets. You're like, you know who is a real bitch? You just go off on tangents about who you hate. You know what film I hated the most?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah, yeah. I'll tell ya. You know who i fucked one time that's i love i do love that when like old actors just let it all out it's like oh yeah i was fucking him i denied it at the time but yeah who was who was it was talking about uh um when richard pryor was high he blew who he blew someone or someone blew him. Oh my God. Why can't I think about this? Why? I don't actually know this.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Somebody, somebody that just died. And he was like, he was like, yeah, Richard Pryor's like a ex-wife, like confirmed it. It was like,
Starting point is 00:35:55 yeah, he was doing all sorts of fucked up shit. He was on Coke. He was on meth. It was a fucked up. It all comes out eventually. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 We were all fucking him. It was a gang bang. You wish you could just tell those stories now but you can't you could you could i guess it's at the risk of your future work you might get you know you might get shoehorned into shit that you don't like you know sure you maybe i mean maybe not maybe it's like uh let's talk about it so let's now we go to this deep dive about nasty shit you don't want aired can we edit out all this no we have to leave all of it in um so you you um you weren't thrust into it by anybody but yourself which is kind of interesting because uh i always think about that if you have kids you don't have kids i don't have
Starting point is 00:36:36 kids if you have kids i don't know if you do have kids uh if they said i want to be in the business what what would you oh my god i God. I'd be like, no. I mean. You'd say no? I'm not sure. I would allow them to. Look, I think it would have to be approached the right way. I actually think, weirdly, it was approached for me the right way because I did ultimately make the decision myself.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Your parents loved the arts, though. You were influenced by the arts when you were a kid, right? Yeah, I was definitely influenced by the arts though. You were influenced by the arts when you were a kid, right? Yeah, I was definitely influenced by the arts. But I actually think it's more of like, I was just something I was drawn to. I think emotionally, I think it was like cathartic. I think it just was something that I was drawn to for, you know, I love storytelling and all of that and reading. And it just was something that I genuinely wanted to do and I could have done anything I really did have every opportunity
Starting point is 00:37:31 on the planet to do privilege man that's I mean yeah I mean I you know I went to I really did have a ton of opportunities that's awesome though yeah it's great but acting is what I you chose but I guess I just mean like you were surrounded by art and your parents are supportive of the arts. Like if they took you to Broadway as a kid and you saw that stuff, like that's what I mean. Like when you have a kid, and undoubtedly he or she will be influenced
Starting point is 00:37:53 if you do have children around your life and your world. Yeah. So they'll go, you know, they'll know that that's a part of your life. It's a better chance than not that they'll be into it. Like for me. It's such a tough life. Well, for me, it was like the a tough life it well for me it was whole
Starting point is 00:38:05 it was it's like the way i see it because i was on the outside like dude my parents the arts like no like going to see a movie was like the arts for my family so like you know like my dad's favorite sitcom was uh andy griffith you know that's like all i knew you know what i mean like that my dad still watches westerns and he like won't listen to music, you know, after 1964. So like there's just something about like I never was introduced to that world. Actually, I mean, until my mom took me to see Phantom of the Opera. And then I was like, I love this stuff. Yeah. I had a poster of Andrew Lloyd Webber above my bed.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You want to talk about a dork? You want to talk about dork shit? That's great. I had an Andrew Lloyd Webber fucking Phantom of the Opera poster. That's really, that's really then i got upset i got obsessed with which is funny because i don't like musicals yeah oh i hate them i really i know actors hate to hear that i fucking hate musicals most people do most actually most actors love musicals yeah i loathe them okay but phantom struck such a such a chord because it
Starting point is 00:39:03 was so dark yeah i love And I love dark shit. So Phantom to me was, it's Batman, basically. It's like a different iteration of Batman, different story. But I mean, it's this kind of dark, hero, sexy, evil, also good thing that coexists. And I really love that. How do you feel about Les Mis? Everybody loves Les Mis. I liked it. Yeah. Mis. I liked it.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. Okay, you liked it. Yeah, I did. Okay. But I think like the way people like that kind of stuff. Yeah. Maybe I'm a contrarian
Starting point is 00:39:32 and it bothers me. Yeah. When people are like, oh, I loved it. It's like, okay. Okay, enough. Sure, it was fine. Like Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I've talked about this before. I don't give a fuck about Hamilton. I haven't seen Hamilton. I hate spoken word. I hate spoken word. And I know that that's bigger than spoken word, but like, I don't need to hear about a man and a plant and the seat and the wall. I just, it's so fucking annoying to me.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I hate it. Well, hey. And I'm also doing that because so many people loved it. So many people, Hamilton, oh my God, the tickets are so hard to get. It's like, you know when there's a long line for a cheeseburger place and you're like, you know, there's another good cheeseburger down the street. Right. What the fuck is so good about that cheeseburger?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah, it's mob mentality. I hate that. That's maybe what it is. But I think Hamilton might be just objectively good. Maybe. Says who? All right, all right. I mean, everybody.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah. Every human ever loves it. I mean, I haven't seen it. I have a little bit of the same thing. I mean, that happened to me with Breaking Bad. By the time everyone was like, oh my God, you have to see it. I mean, I haven't seen it. I have a little bit of the same thing. I mean, that happened to me with Breaking Bad. By the time everyone was like, oh my God, you have to see it. Sure. Like I had already, it was too many seasons in and I was just so irritated from hearing everyone being like, you haven't seen it. Doesn't that annoy you when someone does that?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah. You haven't seen Stranger Things? Oh my God. Alex, you're an idiot. How can you be an actress? They get so mad at you for not seeing seeing shit what do you mean you haven't seen all the oscar movies please you're an actress this is your job half of the fucking uh half the half of the movies that were just up for nomination now i didn't know any of those fucking films like the like the chuck lorry film what was that called the kaninsky method oh i don't know i never saw that my fucking i know i've been bouncing around new york city i haven't had time come in skip can skip now i'm back in la and i'm hearing about all the movies and i i know I don't know. I never saw that in my fucking life. I know. I've been bouncing around New York City. I haven't had time. Kaminsky. Now I'm back in LA and I'm hearing about all the movies. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:08 But I'm bad. I don't watch any of that shit either. But that is annoying when someone says, how about this? Let's name what's the one that you haven't seen that culturally people get really angry at you about? Movie or TV show? Okay. Well, The Godfather was one for a long time, but I just saw The Godfather two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:41:24 That is kind of annoying Because that's such a good movie Yeah well Now I understand That's actually the one Where I'm like Okay everyone I get it
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'm sorry One two and three I did Well I stopped In the middle of three I mean what happened Three's very very bad Oh my god
Starting point is 00:41:40 But it was still I looked it up It was still nominated For best picture I mean Well yeah because of The lineage You know what I mean Oh my god but two wasn't as bad as people talk about i'm sick of people talking about great a lot of people hate on it's different you can tell that
Starting point is 00:41:52 he was he had a little bit he was more confident totally you know what i mean like you can tell it's all emotional like the first one is so and then the second one you're like he's like fuck yeah he's got a little swagger well sometimes, sometimes you get. Prince George Coppola was like. Riding pretty high on himself. Fuck, yes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the film is fucking amazing. What TV series do people get mad about?
Starting point is 00:42:11 Breaking Bad was the one. Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones. Hey, you know who's never seen an episode of Game of Thrones? You? Yeah. Oh, yes. No way. Never going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You're the same as me. I'm never going to watch it. Yes. I mean. I'm never going to watch that fucking thing. I have friends on Game of Thrones. I've seen, I've actually seen one episode But I
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's obviously a great show But it's just one of these things I'm just irritated It annoys me It's like my rebellious side Everyone's like we love Game of Thrones And my dog is named After one of the characters
Starting point is 00:42:45 and I'm dressing up as the, and oh my God, the red wedding. Oh my God. I don't know any of these terms. That's what's so fun. All I know is there's incest in it. That's all you know? I mean, I know dragons shit.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I know who the, Jon Snow. I know who the names are. There's a lot of like sex stuff and a sex stuff. So old. Mom. Exactly. You said sex stuff in this movie stuff so old. Mom. Exactly. You said sex stuff
Starting point is 00:43:07 in this movie. There's a lot of sex stuff in this show. I don't think you guys should be watching it. Isn't that funny though you find out your parents are freakier than you thought though?
Starting point is 00:43:14 When you're a kid like sharing kind of talking about sexual stuff or whatever and then you get older and you find it like they're just you they just were more quiet about it.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You know what I mean? Yeah. They're more private I guess you should say. I guess. yeah i mean my parents are my parents are divorced and my mom's like wanting to start dating and the other day she was like i don't know i mean these you know my mom's 68 she's oh because she's gonna kill me if i put whatever go for it she's gonna kill me so what poor mom she's like i don't know like i need to start dating but like i just can't imagine having sex with a 70 year old man and you're like me neither mom that sounds gross
Starting point is 00:43:50 you know it's like it's like wow it's like she's starting to date in her late 60s when did they get a divorce a couple years ago congratulations yeah exactly huge exactly my parents got divorced before i was one so the pain didn't hit me like friends that i have that got divorced before I was one. So the pain didn't hit me. Like friends that I have that got divorced when they were like seven. Yeah. And they're like ruined forever. Yeah. Like I have those friends. But for me, my parents split when I, I think right before I was one year old.
Starting point is 00:44:15 So it doesn't have the same thing for me. I actually, I think that I'm a big believer in divorce. I mean, I think if you get married and it's not working out get divorced there's no reason to to stay i like i think that's how long were they married for oh god a long time did they do they are did they write their own divorce papers their lawyers no it'd be so great if they were divorce attorneys both of them no they're not both their divorce attorneys. But they, I think that, you know, getting divorced when you see that it's the relationship's over is better for the kids. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:52 But it also helps when the kids are older, right? Like you're older now. It's easier than, I think it is hard. Like I have a buddy that's getting divorced right now and his kids are nine and 12. And that fucking sucks. That's hard for the kids. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I mean, the 12 year old's a boy. So like, you know, he'll take it out on football or something you know right but the nine-year-old girl it's just a weird awkward unfortunate time i think for her like oh it'll just set her up for you know years of dating terrible men and she's already pregnant she's already she's already she's already made some bad mistakes she's now going to repeat her mistakes over and over and over don't we all no i think i look i think kids go through tough stuff either way i mean it is tough but like you're gonna be bullied or you're gonna get heartbroken you're gonna i hope so have you're gonna have all kinds of stuff happen to you it's all gonna be tough it's all gonna be
Starting point is 00:45:41 hard and we're all gonna turn out all right or we won't like i mean or we won't or we won't and then fucking sorry i don't know i mean i mean that's a little bit like i just think i just think kids go through all kinds of tough stuff yeah and and they just have to deal with it's better to get divorced than to be fighting constantly that's tough too that's way worse yeah but most of the time secrets are kept. Secrets. Like I know a crazy big, can you keep a secret coming out next fall? That's right. We'll just keep. It sounds like a TV show.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Can you keep a secret? Like a game show, like Steve Harvey. It does. Yeah. Can you keep a secret? I can just hear Steve Harvey going into, can you keep a secret? He tells one person in the audience and they have to see if they can keep it for the whole show without telling anybody.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And they win a certain amount of money. But it's like such a good secret. Yeah, it's so, they have to tell. Oh God, I have to tell somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, part of the deal is you have to tell one person. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna make that show, we'll sell that show.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Can you keep a secret? Great, great, we'll call Steve Harvey. Can you, you can't get a hold of him. He's very busy. You can't? Him and The Rock are the two busiest people in the world. Steve Harvey does like nine TV shows. You're right, he is very busy. and the rock are the two busiest people in the world steve harvey does like nine tv shows you're right he is very busy him and ryan seacrest him seacrest the rock oprah ellen there's oprah's chilled out though i feel only publicly but you got to know behind closed doors she's doing a thousand you're right yeah she's a machine you're right like who makes a
Starting point is 00:47:01 magazine and puts themselves on every cover has time to take that many pictures. That's an insane amount of photos. She's on every cover. Well, do you think they just kept changing shirts and just did one photo shoot? No, because sometimes they're in the garden. I see when I'm at the grocery store. Sometimes they're like, she's in the garden.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Sometimes she's like on a boat. Sometimes she's like on a rooftop of a house. Like it's all different places. Right. Maybe they just helicopter her around. Just taking photos of her all day long that's literally she's like all right it's time for my 9 a.m photograph and i do this for three hours and then finally i get to go take a bath overlooking montecito or whatever that's right
Starting point is 00:47:35 heaven that she lives oh wouldn't it be nice it would be nice to have that kind of money to go away away yes yeah i think about that all the time yeah because i like just retire but i just would like to you know what i mean yeah santa barbara to me is kind of one of those places where i think i might retire yeah oh for sure it's close enough you can get like a like a little farm you can get like some pigs and some goats and some chickens pigs goats chickens little cow i'd get one cow you can get one cow can't get more than one no and what about a horse then they team up did you grow up riding horses no no no my mom would never like porcelain skin you know and porcelain skin girls always seem like they rode horses when i was a kid like every porcelain
Starting point is 00:48:17 skin girl i knew rode horses my sister actually rode horses is she like does she look like you yeah she has smooth white skin smooth porcelain skin horse girl every time every girl in school that i knew that was like pretty and had porcelain skin i was like she rides a horse yeah no my mom was like way too scared to allow me to ride a horse i think smart that's an insane idea to get on that animal yeah she didn't want her kid on a horse when i see cops on horses i'm like we have cars yeah why do we still do that yeah i mean let and horses are like you know let them go run around in the fields yeah i never understood that i get like i'm not a big animal rights activist i mean i believe i'm not i'm not
Starting point is 00:48:56 obviously the other way but like something about the horse thing bothers me so much when i see people on horses i'm like what the fuck are you doing on that thing I feel like it just adds an extra like hurdle to actually stopping crime like you have to like you have to like figure you have to make sure your horse is calm
Starting point is 00:49:12 you have to get off the horse make sure the horse is not going to run away that everything's I mean I make one cut and the horse can't keep up right like you have to like
Starting point is 00:49:19 worry about the horse when you're actually trying to you know keep keep it keep keep crime keep your city yeah keep it keep crime keep your city yeah keep crime at bay
Starting point is 00:49:26 keep your city safe that's what I'm gonna write us I'll write us a cop horse horses on cop film will you do that with me yeah and then the lead character
Starting point is 00:49:34 the cop he like they assign him his horse but his horse is like not that well behaved and he's like guys I really I can't
Starting point is 00:49:42 I see it now I need a different horse and they're like that's your horse officer that's're like, that's your horse, officer. Officer Smith, that's your horse. Deal with it. And then it's just him and this horse going on their shenanigans. And the horse is constantly getting him into trouble.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I love this. You're a straight-laced cop. Your horse is wackadoo nuts. It's putting the cop buddy comedy on its head by making one of them a horse. Yeah. I love that you keep looking. He's making sure we're okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:11 He has to do that. It's for legal reasons. Okay. There's a guy you guys don't see that's constantly coming to the... Every time he comes in, I'm like, is it over now? Is he telling me we have to stop? He's signaling we have to stop. I control it. He's making sure we have to stop. I control it.
Starting point is 00:50:26 He's making sure the camera's still good. Got it. Which is so funny though. People who do that every time he comes to the door and they're like, he like pokes his cute little head, you know? Yeah. He's very cute though. He's very sweet.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Very cute. He's foldable. You know, I carry him with me. I can fold him in half and I can throw him right on my back. That's great. 186 pounds. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Do people give you weird looks when you walk around like that? They shouldn't. No. This is America. That's right. I should be able to do whatever I want if I'm gonna carry a nice young man. If I'm gonna carry a grown man on my back. Yeah, I should be able to, right?
Starting point is 00:50:53 People better not judge me for it. But they will, but they shouldn't. They will, but they should not do that. That's right. No more judgment. Let's say it like that. So let's talk about this. You voted for Trump and many people know that did you see this picture
Starting point is 00:51:07 of fucking Trump feeding the Clemson football team do you know anything about this no I don't it's hilarious so Trump fed the Clemson national champion football college football team
Starting point is 00:51:16 he had him over at the White House to have junk food he literally bought like a thousand cheeseburgers 900 fries oh I did I saw a new yorker cartoon making fun of this and i didn't understand the cartoon the new yorker making fun
Starting point is 00:51:29 of him it was a that's right um yeah i mean wow we can talk politics let me see no no we don't what do i even say we don't need to i just think it's crazy that he let that he fed all these kids shit food and you're like i mean i i think what's going on in politics is just so remarkable to me i mean it's like we're all becoming desensitized to nonsense which i think can be good in some ways but kind of like a little bit too much i mean i i uh it's so baffling to me and it's that i i'm like i'm rendered speechless on a daily basis you should be and nowadays too especially in like in our in our game in our business is like nobody really wants to talk about it people like to talk shit online but nobody really wants to talk about it
Starting point is 00:52:22 but i but i think it's just like it's so the whole thing is so fucked up like twitter has become this political pundit space where like people used to think we're like just fun or funny or cool are now like on this rant all the time about trump and all this shit and you're like man i wish twitter was fun twitter used to be like so fun and now every time i open it up it's so sad like everything is like global warming shit about trump shit about politics something negative that's going on i'm just like oh my god i mean it's remarkable how much the world's changed in 10 years and when we just think about how we're all interacting and obsessing and and the way that we socially interact and like i have all kinds of thoughts on you know how phones are you know really fucking
Starting point is 00:53:07 up our heads in ways totally really don't understand and plenty of other people do too and there's been plenty of articles written about it but like the the just the constant communication we have and the constantly being available and and um and being able to voice our opinions and discuss them immediately with other people. I'm not so sure that it's that healthy for us at a certain point. I feel myself shutting down or being really focused on, you know. And I have all these relationships with people who I care about, but who I'm not seeing face to face. That's why I set this up, by the way.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. Because I knew you wanted to say hi to me face to face. Yes, it was time. I really miss him. I really want to see him face to face. But yeah, I mean, it can't be good to be on Twitter and just like obsessing over politics constantly. But what else are we going to do?
Starting point is 00:54:00 I mean, the whole thing is so, so crazy. It's fun to get involved. It's fun to get involved though, because it's something to do. You know what I mean? It's like is so, so crazy. It's fun to get involved. It's fun to get involved, though, because it's something to do. You know what I mean? It's something that fills your day with shit. It's just water cooler talk that you didn't get from the news last night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:11 That was the generation before us. Just like what you saw on the news or read in the paper, that became water cooler talk. Now, Twitter is water cooler talk. Yeah. What's the new conversation? Right. Let me skip sideways, though. What I wanted to ask you about the Trump stuff is, what is your favorite fast food?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Because he had all this cool fast food out. I want to know what your go-to is. What's your sneak? I don't eat a lot of fast food. Yeah, but you got to have one. I like McDonald's chicken McNuggets and I do like Jack in the Box. Although I'll be honest, I haven't, I'm basing that off of one drunken meal I had six years ago. Last time you had fast food was how long ago do you think?
Starting point is 00:54:47 No, I had McDonald's. I went to Japan to shoot a film at the end of not 2018, 2017, which is now two years ago. Nuts. Nuts. And like in adjusting to the food in Tokyo, I just didn't adjust. No? Well,
Starting point is 00:55:05 at first. Oh, I love, I love their food. Yeah, no, the food is amazing. I just was working so much that like I was grabbing to,
Starting point is 00:55:12 like it just wasn't. So I just ate chicken nuggets. In Japan? Every, yeah, every night. And they're cuter over there for some reason, the Japanese chicken nuggets.
Starting point is 00:55:20 They're tinier. And they're better. They're just better. They really are better. Yeah. I had fast food in Japan once because I was on the run. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:30 What kind of food? It was breakfast. It was like fast food breakfast. Yeah. Not like a traditional, not like a McDonald's, but it was like a fast food to-go breakfast type of thing.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Right. And it was terrible. Well, that's what we had every day on set. It was like American fast food type of shit and I was like, this is terrible. Oh, that's what we had every day on set. It was like American fast food type of shit. And I was like, this is terrible. Oh, the Japanese fast food stuff is like rice wrapped in seaweed and like a miso egg.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah. And that's what I'd have for breakfast. Nah. And it would just be to sustain me. See, I like, like when I was like, I would just, if I could, I would wait to get noodles or sushi or. Yeah. If I could, I would wait to get noodles or sushi or hey, I love goiza.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yeah. Yeah. And I love, oh yeah, goiza, goiza. I went to this goiza place. Dumplings. Dumplings, yeah. And they give you a bag with all sorts of fun stuff mixed in there. And then you put them in yourself and mix it yourself.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Oh, that's so fun. And so it's so cute like walking around the street with your little bag of goiza and you're and i was so happy i was like a child yeah it was so nice i never got to do that oh there's a couple of places that do it um i mean a couple of places that do it that i knew when i was staying in uh shinjuku yeah yeah yeah i'm thinking about the train stop Shinjuku The way they say it That's right Yeah and they had it Right around the neighborhood And it was
Starting point is 00:56:48 Beer loves goiza And you would get A little bit of You know a pint of beer And then you'd get Your little bag of goiza And walk around in the street Next time I go
Starting point is 00:56:55 Japan's the illest I fucking love Oh my god I love Japan I can't talk about it good enough No I love it It's like of all the places I've been That's the spot where I'm like
Starting point is 00:57:01 I had some magical times in Japan Did you go up north Or were you just in Tokyo I was in Tokyo Only for this film But I had been that's the spot where I'm like I had some magical times in Japan did you go up north or were you just in Tokyo I was in Tokyo um only for this film but I had been on vacation like a year prior and I went to uh Osaka Kyoto and Hiroshima awesome mm-hmm that's awesome it's a great place yeah it is it really really cool you know it's an island can you believe that I know isn't that nuts yes it's nuts i love when people say that to me when they talk about it when they give me something obvious when they're like you know it's an island i'm like yeah definitely what do you what yeah of
Starting point is 00:57:33 course of course what do you mean whoa well it's like out on its own isn't that crazy doesn't that feel weird that you're like out and like out in the middle of nowhere you're like not really i mean if i gotta go i gotta go like i have that perspective now i used to get scared of like traveling and now someone's like that's so remote it's so like in the middle of no isn't that crazy i'm like dude if i go then i guess i go fuck it yeah i'd rather go i'd rather die in bali on vacation than hit by a car on labrea you know like fuck it sure like if i'm gonna go like i'd rather go in some weird exotic way they're like he died of the a hurricane swept through indonesia and he died it's like that's terrible but also like i don't know he's out there doing his thing that's kind of fun
Starting point is 00:58:14 right yeah no it's true it's true it's good to be adventurous you don't want to die near home you don't want to be afraid yeah you have to seize the day and go do things even if there's the risk of death oh yeah i think it's the risk of death is way more fun that's right i think it's way for skydiving i i don't that's i don't have that much that's foolish that's a foolish decision or squirrel suits you know the squirrel suits have you seen people do that yeah it's the dumbest i mean are you really enjoying flight that much it might be that it might be that good though i just don't i'll never know i would prefer to just watch i get as much of a thrill watching 90 day fiance on the couch i just talked to someone about that for hours yeah it's one of my favorite things on earth oh it's just so sad no one else
Starting point is 00:59:00 likes it because they say it's too sad it's sad sad, but that's kind of why I like it. I know. I think I'm a sick, twisted human being. Everyone's like, I can't watch this. It's too sad. I can. And I'm like, oh, well, I'm fascinated by it. Yeah. Well, I think there's only one couple that's actually in love. Which one?
Starting point is 00:59:19 With a Russian girl who has the baby. They had a baby. Oh, I'm not. I haven't. I don't know that that couple i'm sorry i don't want to blow up your spot i know i know i need to get caught up i i've been like watching youtube videos of colt and larissa yeah that looks disturbing the vegas couple colt is vegas he lives with his mom yeah that's right very very sad but like on FISA was my jam for a while. Totally. Totally. I mean come on on FISA.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Come on. I mean come on. Come on. I mean the two of you. It's just like. It's a great show. It's a great show. I like. I like. For people who don't know it's Americans who meet someone from a foreign country
Starting point is 01:00:01 either online or while they're on vacation. Almost always online. Right. Almost always online. Right, almost always online. And then they bring them over for a 90-day fiance visa to America. And it's like, obviously, the majority of the time, these people are looking for, they wanna become an American citizen.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But the American just is in complete denial. See, I don't know if it's denial or if it's acceptance that this is their reality. Yeah, I mean, I get that. I've certainly done that in relationships before. I'm like, this is not great, but it's easier than... It'll do. It'll do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:42 What's the longest you've been in a relationship that you didn't want to be in? Oh, God. Years. You stayed years relationship that you didn't want to be in oh god years you went you stayed years in something you didn't want to be in i was in a long-term relationship where i stayed i probably stayed two years longer than i wanted how long was it in total six six years of four good and two sad yeah that's a long fucking time to be sad yeah i didn't really know how to get out of it and then i've done like a couple months here there but i'm i'm always willing to give things a chance you give everybody a chance everyone that comes knocking you're like come on and we'll figure it out i think it's partially my career it's like you know sometimes i'll be like i don't know that
Starting point is 01:01:22 this is gonna work out like right am i gonna have children at any point and then you know you go away for three months to do a phone you're like i can't deal with this right now right do you do you um do you want to have kids is that something on your doctor yeah i would like to have kids i think it would have to be with the right person in the right situation i think it should be with the wrong person yeah i mean i could just like go get pregnant and just sort of figure it out. Do it. I'm not sure that that's. Do it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I'm not sure. Just fucking wing it. Just wing it. Just see what happens. It's just a life. It's just a life. No, you do want to eventually though, right? I would like to, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Would you, would there ever be a scenario where you could meet a guy in 90 days and fall in love with him? Like that show. Do you really think that could happen um i'm sure sure i could fall in love in 90 days but that doesn't mean that you know that's a long-term right you know long-term viability you got to go through some tough stuff together you have to go through shit first you have to go through shit together you have to get through stuff you have to get to really know each other you have to like really like see your own resiliency there's like i think men sometimes get freaked out if
Starting point is 01:02:30 something bad happens but i like bad i mean you know it's like as long as no one's like like throwing shit against the wall or screaming at each other which i don't believe in i think that that if there's a disagreement or like especially with long distance which i deal with a lot like an argument or a little bit of stress like if you can get through that like i think you come out on the other side better yeah but i think what's the shortest relationship you've been in uh oh i've dated people for a couple months you know but then it's not really a relationship what about like a week has there been a guy that
Starting point is 01:03:09 you had a did you have like a like a fling for a week for a week and you never talked to him ever again um no i mean i've i've no i mean i've dated people for like twice you know yeah yeah yeah um but never one of those like, I romanticize about those moments that people have. My very romantic, intense encounters have usually, we've been like, all right, let's do this. It's gonna work out.
Starting point is 01:03:38 We're so in love. And it didn't. Well, then you see that there's real problems. Like you see like, like okay we might be in love and have all of that chemistry and really get along but it's like is this really practical no no yeah probably not long distance is your typical thing though long distance are you in long distance now um sort of yeah i mean i i uh i'm dating now, but I don't have a boyfriend. But the long distance just makes it hard to build.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Totally. And it makes it hard to, when there is a problem, to really deal with it head on. And I think, you know, at least the men that I, for whatever reason, choose to date, there's like a, the long distance thing does not suit. Yeah. I don't know that it suits anybody, though. No, I don't think it does. I mean, I'm currently, I'm married to a woman that lives in Alaska and I never see her. So it's kind of working out.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Is that true? No. That's not true. No, I didn't think that was true. Does not live in Alaska. That's insane. Yeah, that would be a crazy thing. Yeah, I know. My wife lives in Russia and I see her once every nine years. Look, it's nice that you guys are so committed to each other. Yeah, it's kind of cool, to be honest with you. For me, I kind of like the idea of like, let's just get married. And then the long distance is part of our lives. Let's just sort of like not make it a thing yeah if you can if you can that's a hard thing never and never it's always you rely on each other too much yeah but you're an independent woman and it's 2019 you're gonna do whatever
Starting point is 01:05:18 you want becoming less independent with every year good let's keep when i was younger i was like i'm gonna be this independent woman i'm gonna make my own money i don't need anybody i'm gonna be successful on my own that's the only way to survive as a woman in this in this world of patriarchy where men are all terrible is you have to pull yourself up and yeah i'm not taking money or anything from anybody and now i'm like why did I do that? Yeah, it'd be nice to get some help. Yeah, I'd like to get some help. I would like some financial and emotional assistance.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I've done it on my own now. I've proven that to myself. And now I'm prepared to have somebody just come and help me with everything. Turns out it's nice to have somebody. That's correct. Well, that's good. You know what?
Starting point is 01:06:04 This is actually a live dating video video we're taking requests now so we'll send you all the emails dm me yeah open that door of nonsense no yeah you said it um do you want to plug anything right now we're gonna wrap up sadly but do you want to plug anything you have coming out that you want people to watch i don't have anything to plug that's coming out immediately um later this year i have a couple films coming out cool i think everyone should keep track of them i really we have always lived in the castle is excellent um we have always lived in the castle we have always lived in the castle based on a shirley jackson novel which i also recommend read we summon the darkness is a film that will come out and can you keep a secret all
Starting point is 01:06:46 very ominous all very ominous titles very ominous well i love it i love it i'm gonna see them i'll see all three of them great in a row i'll buy one ticket though and i'm gonna go i'm gonna movie hop how dare you yeah that's what we do movie fraud i movie hop that's what i know not anymore sadly but when i was a kid my parents and i would movie hop yeah it's like one of the coolest things in the world to do with mom and dad no I think I think that
Starting point is 01:07:07 yeah movie hop baby I've never done that with my parents yeah I'm gonna do it with my children yeah you should
Starting point is 01:07:13 when I when I go out and get knocked up on my own independently yeah with a guy that you'll never talk to
Starting point is 01:07:20 ever again that's right that's what we're learning yeah all right great thank you so much I'm glad you came thank you for having me.
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