Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Andy Milonakis Has Lived the Weirdest Life Online | Whiskey Ginger

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger a Wave series presented by Fanduel Predicts. Andrew Santino sits down with comedian, actor, streamer, and internet pioneer Andy Milonakis to talk about blowing up before s...ocial media really existed, navigating internet fame, streaming culture, old-school MTV chaos, and why the online world somehow finally caught up to Andy’s brain. They get into early viral fame, gaming, content addiction, weird fan encounters, comedy evolution, loneliness online, and the strange reality of growing up in public while never really fitting into traditional Hollywood. Andy shares stories from every era of the internet and proves once again he’s one of the most unique people to ever come out of comedy. Follow Andy Milonakis:https://www.instagram.com/andymilonakis Follow Andrew Santino:https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino Follow Whiskey Ginger:https://instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #AndyMilonakis #ComedyPodcast #InternetCulture #MTV #Comedy #PodcastClips ====================================================== This episode is sponsored by: FANDUEL PREDICTS Sign up now for your twenty-five dollar bonus on FanDuel Predicts. HEAD TO ⁠https://fanduel.com/whiskey⁠ TO GET STARTED! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to Whiskey Ginger, a Wave series, presented by FanDuel Predix. Hey, Whisk Ginge fans, I'm going to be down in San Diego. Southern California, come see your boy. Come out and see me, San Diego. I love you so much. You're our neighbor to the south. Come see me. Go to Andrewsantino.com for this.
Starting point is 00:00:15 It's Andrewsantino. Dot com. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginger's a pugilful. You only $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Ginger's, oh, hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger, I like gingers. Ladies gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Dinner. I guess that is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that from my guess we're meeting once again today. It's Andy Milanakis. What's up, baby?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yeah, that one's good. Cheers, just a little sip. We're having a little sip. You're nursing and injury. Tell the people what happened. So, this building is kind of weird. There's, like, no entrance in the front. And so the Uber, like, dropped me off next to a bunch of shrubs,
Starting point is 00:01:08 and I already have a fucked up leg with, like, a titanium implant in it. So I, like, get out, and I, like, stumble over one of the shrubs. And it was, like, it was, like, some three stooges shit. I don't know how I recovered and didn't fall on my ass, but it was very close. You're alive. Now I'm even more alive. Yeah, you're alive, dude. You're living.
Starting point is 00:01:28 You're living, kitten. Oh, damn. How are you feeling? You'd probably be a fun guy to drink with. Hell, yeah. I mean, we're drinking now, but this is a little bit different. I'd be more fun to go out, out with. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:36 But I don't like to go to, like, busy bars, nightclubs. I don't like any of that crap. I like a dingy, seedy, quiet little spot, and then just get hammered. Start when the sun is about to go down and then disappear into the night. I like that. Isn't that your favorite? I like that, but I also like boozy hotels. Oh, you're fancy.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I know, you're fancy, yeah. But, like, boozy hotels. are chill too because it's like nobody else matters you're not in some loud place where people are annoying you're just with your group right yeah yeah yeah you're in a comfortable setting with good drinks you know what's your favorite hotel don't say kempton my favorite hotel when i lived in l.a was chatea vermont oh yo that's a big that's a nice hotel dude would you just get rooms or just go to the the restaurant most of the time i wouldn't get rooms sometimes i would but I have a funny story about Blanton's because that's what we're drinking. I'm drinking some Blantin's one of my ultimate favorites. Go ahead. Give it to me. You're going to hate me now. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:02:39 For a while, Chateau Marmont didn't have a good brown list. They just had... Tequila, vodka. Yeah, they just... I don't know why. It's such a fancy hotel. They just didn't have a good brown list. And I was hip to this fucking bourbon that at the time was $100 a bottle.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You buy it at like Bristol Farms. You buy it anywhere. Sure. 100 bucks. Still kind of expensive for a bottle, right? Yeah. And I just, I loved it so much and I wanted to drink it. And Chateau was my favorite place.
Starting point is 00:03:09 We'd smoke weed in there. We'd people watch. We'd see a bunch of actors. It was just like a fun time. So I would order Blanton's there. And I would empty it in the fucking plants. And then I'd pour my Pappy Van Winkle 20 in the glass. You'd empty Blantin's?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, I'd empty because I didn't want to be cheap. I didn't want to, like, sneak drinks in and be like, oh, I'm drinking for free so I'd pay for glasses of blanton's I'd throw the shit on the fucking bush is that I'd pour my pavvy van winkle to what's wrong with you dude you're a sick you're sick you're sick that's how you roll cut well this is rip van milk have you ever had rip yeah so this is the same brand yeah I know this is 10 years old right and then the really when it gets really dank is 20 the 20 is the best anything over 15 is pretty it's kind of like uh you you're driving on the highway yeah and you're going 90 or 120 it's kind of the same
Starting point is 00:04:05 i don't know the difference i disagree with this specific brand i can't tell the difference yeah yeah but you have you had pat a pivotal 20 though who you're talking to the show is called whiskey ginger i've had a thousand of it oh yeah dude i've drank it i've drank it oh i mean there's a big difference though it's it's it's it's it's similar in smoothness it's a little bit similar in smoothness it's a little bit Similar and smoothness. This show needs to be canceled. Cancel it. Cancel it. That's not true. Yeah, it is. No.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Are you a big drinker? Yeah. I've had a thousand of these things. I think they're as close as you can get to feeling the same without... I think the pretentiousness as you grow with like, oh, and it's older and it's more age and it's like... No, no, no, no. The pretentiousness is there on wine, I think. Wine is way worse. But bourbon bourbon heads are even way worse. By the way, Pappy and all that stuff, those guys, you go down to Kentucky, they used to drink that stuff like it was Jack.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Like, it would be thrown around and they're like, yeah, it's fine. They don't love it. The demand wasn't crazy then. I know. That's what I'm saying. The demand, I think, socially is what turned up people to go, this is the best. It's good. But you can't say that about me.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I was buying it when it was $100 a bottle. Yeah, but you were high blacked out at Chateau. No, no, I wasn't blacked out. No? No. Listen, I don't know, man. You gotta line up 10, you gotta bring up 10 whiskey drinkers and pour them a glass of fucking 10 versus 20. Every single one will tell a difference.
Starting point is 00:05:35 You can tell a difference, but I don't think it's so dramatic where it's like this is so much better. Even I think what is it, the 15, there's a 15 and 20 and then 23. Yeah. I like the 20 better than 23. But I think there's a crazy difference between that and the 20. Palette. Palat preference is what I like to call. You're a Bamba claw. Palet preference, Bamba claw.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Have you ever had old fits? You had old fits? No. Old fits is pretty good. See, I can turn you on to some fun stuff. Have you had stag? Have you had Georgie stag? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:04 You're dumping Blanton's into the bushes. I can't trust this guy. That's great. And by the way, this isn't, Blantons I don't hold in the highest of regard. I just think it's a very solid go-to for me that I, it's just like a good, solid sipping whiskey that I like neat, usually, but I'm on ice because I figured you're a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It depends. I mean, if I'm not on an empty stomach and I'm drinking at night and I'm drinking like high quality shit, I will not put ice in anything. Sure. Like Johnny Walker, black ice. Johnny Walker. I'm just saying, like, that's like low fucking shit, right? But Johnny Walker's scotch. Yeah, I know, but any brown. I'm talking about any brown. Oh, so you don't discern. You'll take it all.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Well, I mean, I really like cognac a lot. I feel like cognac is nice because... That's the hood in you. Well, no, no, no. There's some high-end conyknacks up. Some really good home. I'm not talking about the low. Like Louis? You drinking, Louis?
Starting point is 00:06:58 I think Louis is way overpriced. Well, it's overrated. This is my point. At some point, it's the culture that did it. It's not the thing. That's the thing. Like Pappy Van Winkle 20, I don't think it's worth 4K a bottle, but is it worth 100 a bottle every day of the week. Of course.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Of course. But they've juiced it up so much. Now everyone's overpaying. Back in the old days. In the mud, you know what I'm saying? In the mud. You're in the streets. Well, now you're in the streets.
Starting point is 00:07:22 You're living in Austin, Texas. Why? Okay, I just, it's a boring story, but I want to make, I want to give you the cliff notes. Give it to me. So I had a, I had a loft in downtown L.A. And I wanted, I wanted a loft. I don't like that downtown L.A., but I wanted it because I wanted a green screen and shit to fucking do shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So I went to Venice to see some people with a couple of my friends. We flew there. We're going to be there for a couple of weeks. COVID happened. Nobody was flying. Everybody was afraid. No one know what was going on So we were Airbnb hopping month to month
Starting point is 00:07:57 And then I just told my friend I'm like, let's just get a year lease It's cheap as fuck, let's just do it You know, we don't have to move around So I got a year lease And then After that year I was like, let me see
Starting point is 00:08:11 I haven't seen my parents in a while I haven't seen my family So let's go back to New York Okay, so then I lived in New York for a while I lived in Queens In Astoria and then I was just like I was just stumbling over all my fucking shit
Starting point is 00:08:27 I just have no room living in fucking a Manhattan or a queen's apartment so I was like all right well I just move from Austin let me just move back because I get a big house no income taxes you know price is cheap and then I came out here and like day one I'm like what am I doing in Austin I got to move back so I got to get the fuck back here
Starting point is 00:08:47 like instantly just like posting a couple Instagrams and like the opportunities that come up and people hitting me up to do stuff like just I could be way more creative out here you know I could be seeing more people doing more shit and not be like a little hermit you know I travel a lot so when I'm in Austin I'm just kind of like oh I'm in hermit mode but I don't want to be in hermit mode you don't want to stay at the house all day I don't want to do that no no you want to be out and about but so you're downtown LA I was I mean I lived in LA for 17 years so I lived everywhere in LA yeah miracle mile west Hollywood Hollywood Hill
Starting point is 00:09:20 like fucking... Never the valley, though. Never the valley. You poo-poo the valley. You're one of those guys. No, I don't poo-poo it, but that's just where I just happen to be. You know, I lived in Venice Beach for a while. And then, like, Las Jena, like, kind of like in the middle of, like, West Hollywood to Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Just everywhere, pretty much. Yeah. Korea town. Where are you going to come back to? I'm thinking either... I mean, I like Venice because it just feels like I'm living in a vacation. but it's too far from everything. Yeah, it's deep.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And my boy just moved to Silver Lake. So I'm thinking, like, maybe that area, like, West Side. East Side. I mean East Side, though. East Side, but a good, everyone, you know, the young kids live in the East Side. He's 25 years old, 26 years old now. Yeah, I don't really know exactly where. Like, right now, I bought an open-ended ticket, and I want to stay for a month.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So even now, I don't know where to stay for a month. Like, stay in Venice Beach. I could just kind of be outside in the sun, easy walkable, or, like, being like uh so you're on the move what do you what you don't you don't you don't need to call any place home but do you ever feel like you're too that's too much you don't want to like have some roots somewhere
Starting point is 00:10:32 or you don't really care i mean i always have roots somewhere no matter even if i like travel for like three months at a time i always have a home base somewhere whether it's new york like austin you put all your shit somewhere yeah but not in austin anymore no i mean can't do terry blacks every day dude damn terry blacks shit Give me some Terry Blacks. They give me some Bernands.
Starting point is 00:10:53 They love bragging about the barbecue down there. You're like, it's fine. No, no, no. Barbecue in Austin is not great. It's fine. It's not great. It's as fine as... Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Tennessee, Bueno. Tennessee good? You know he's got great barbecue. Kansas City, dude. Kansas City's got great barbecue. Everybody that I respect in the food world says Casey is the best. You must know because you got the Bourdain tattoo. You must be like a food nut.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I am. You're a foodie. I he inspired me so much to travel a lot and like everywhere I went that he went like I mean I saw his like first episode and then like maybe like eight years later I went to it and the place was still open and it's like tweeting him in spots that he that he'd been to being like yo man I found your spot and he'd respond to me you know did you ever meet him and out of anyone on planet earth that I wanted to meet it was him and I had us like it was a snow day that my plane got canceled to from New York to LA and then 10,000 feet in the air, I get a message from Bourdain saying, are you going to say hello or what? And at first, I didn't know what that meant. Like, what, did I not tweet him
Starting point is 00:12:01 like recently? And then I'm like, oh shit. And I looked at my right and he's sitting right there. He was on the same flight. You had no idea. And then, and then like, I'm like, were you on one on the plane or something? Were you, were you hammered? You didn't see him right next to you? No, no. He was like one seat back and to the right. Oh, okay, okay. I. I thought he was right there. I was like, bro. He was just touching my leg. Bro.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Are you going to say hi? Are you going to say hi? So. I'll pop this mic up to your mouth, by the way. It's falling a little bit. Oh, yeah. Connie, you want to jam it? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Let him jamming it in my ass. Jamming it right in his fucking ass, dude. That's where he likes microphones. So he was with his wife and kids at the time. Hold up. There you go. Make sure that arm is up. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Okay. All right. Yeah, so he was with his wife and kids at the time. So I didn't want to be that guy. And I was like, hey, I'm on a flight with you. So, uh, where are you going? What are you doing? You know, like that annoying fucking type, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Um, so I was like, I'm not going to bother you, but can we just take a, like, a pick when we get off the plane? He goes, yeah, yeah, sure. And then we were tweeting back and forth like funny shit. I was like, I was like, yo, put in a good word with the flight attendant. I'm trying to join the Mile High Club. And she responded, I don't think I could do you any favors. She's been giving me dirty looks ever since I turned down. the in-flight meal.
Starting point is 00:13:23 But yeah, that was like my dream to meet him, and it was cool to get to meet him. He was the king, dude. Do you ever eat these in-flight meals? You don't do that? If it's international, and I'm like on a 12-hour flight, I kind of have to.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Different story. Yeah, yeah. If I'm going on a four-hour flight, I skip it because I'm like anywhere I'm landing, there's going to be some cool thing that I could eat. Sure. That would be better to wait for, you know? I will take the hot,
Starting point is 00:13:49 nuts though. Pause. Unpause. Unpause. Give me them nuts. Hey, give me them nuts. I can't do. I can't eat on airplanes. It gives me the Yeah, it makes me feel gross too. Well, the idea of it is always freaky to me because I'm like, where did that food? Where was the food? Yeah. I mean, sometimes I'll go to a little magazine shopping and get some like trail mix or something because I know I'm not going to eat that slop, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:10 What's the go-to in the magazine shop? Trail mix? Any candy? I mean, okay, last time, I don't get this that often because it is kind of sludgy, but like pizza-reel. flavored combos. You kidding me, those are so good. Comboes have never gone out of style. It's unbelievable. Where other kind of snacks in that world from when we were...
Starting point is 00:14:29 How old are you? I turned 21 yesterday. Good boy. Such a lady in Hollywood. No, but I'm 43 this year. All the snacks of my youth like that when they started like getting big. Comboes might be the only one that I still can go back to and be like, oh, this is, I do like this.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Like, Pringles got too pringly. They tried too much stuff. Well, your taste buds kind of advanced, too. Like, you want real potato chips now. You don't want, like, fucking... Depends, though. Some days I want some nasty nasties. I ate a bag of those chili cheese fritos when we shot,
Starting point is 00:15:02 and those are still my favorite. Fritos! Chili cheese fritos. Pizzeria combos, like... That was one of my old-school snacks, too. I used to go to this arcade called the Electric Playhouse, and I would play the same game every day. It was called Renegade.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It was kind of like Final Fux. fight type game. Double dragon. I'll just go to the little like vending machine, get pizzeria combos, put it on top of the arcade and just like sit there and play it. Play it all day long. Yeah, yeah. That's the best, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That's the best. I love going into those magazine stores, though. I do love going in there to see them what they got. And the best thing is like riding your bike to that place. Oh. You know, being like 15, having a bike, getting home from school and just riding your bike to an arcade by yourself and just go. Quarters, baby, quarters, baby, quarters.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We used to save quarters, put it. them in a sock, ride our bike. There was like an ice skating arena near my house, like an indoor ice skating arena, and they had the, by far, the best arcade. It had no less than 30 different new games all the time. I don't know who was, I don't know whose son that owned it was like, we got to get arcade in here. But it became the place to go versus an arcade because they always had new shit.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And ice, you know, ice arenas are making good money because ice time is expensive. So all these kids would come in there with mom and dad money, and they would go and they'd get the machine, you know, they'd be getting dollars in there. We would save quarters, steal quarters, find them anywhere, and play as long as we could, and then on a mission to go get quarters again. It was like Sandlot, where they're saving up to buy a baseball. It was like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:16:30 How many quarters could we get to play Mortal Kombat until, you know, we were due home? Like, nostalgia is a drug to me. I've been buying, like, some really old-school shit. Like, I bought this game that I used to play at the Holiday Inn near my apartment. And, um, it's, It's like a pinball, it's like a little pinball machine, and then there's an arcade machine over it.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And so, like, when you get to a certain part in the pinball game, the screen turns on and it turns into, like, Pac-Man. Oh, so, and then you've got to beat that to get an extra ball and stuff? Yeah, yeah, it's like a combo. And they only made, like, two of them like it. So I was like, I got to buy this shit from my house. I've been trying to buy the shit first. Oh, you can't find it? Well, I finally found it.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And I bought it. You did? Yeah, yeah. You got it? Yeah, it's called Baby Pac-Man. Was it expensive? What are these things going now? That was like 6K.
Starting point is 00:17:20 That's a good clip. This is like the storyline of the movie Big on the hunt for the Zoltar machine. I remember seeing the Zoltar in real life after that movie had come out. They shot that in Playland in New York, right, right, Playland? Is that where you grew up?
Starting point is 00:17:35 I grew up kind of close to there. Pretty close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always loved... Nostalgia to me, I still get involved in it in my life. Like I still do nostalgic things. But to me, like, going back to places is physically visiting is where I get the most nostalgic.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Like, going back to my childhood. Like, the building that I lived in as a kid with my mom, it does something weird to you, man. It's crazy. Bro, same thing. When I'm driving around with my mom, I'm like, I tell her to stop at, like, my old apartment buildings that we lived in. I like, I don't know what. I do this. Dude, I do it.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I love it. And I'm just, like, sitting there and, like, all the memories just rush it in my fucking head. That's it. Yeah. See, like, it's. the length of the pinball field is like half of what it's normally. Yeah, and then the top just is the video game.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It's fucking sick. Yeah, for some reason, I don't know why I do that. My wife says all the time, she's like, man, you got the nostalgia bug you have. Like, if I find myself near Culver City ever, like if I'm going to a meeting or going to do something, I'll swing by my first apartment down there. I just live off a national, like, by the freeway.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I mean, I know why you do it, because life can be very mundane, and nostalgia is, like, magical. Well, it's also, it's cool to see, where you started. There's something cool about going back to the beginning and being like, well, look at that. Like, I remember I lived in a three-bed, one bath.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It was actually two-bed, but I lived in a kitchen, I lived in a dining room that was partitioned off with two other UCLA grad students. And I don't know, it was terrible, but it was incredible. Yeah, I never regret my childhood either because, like, you know, I feel like, you know, number one, I think it builds character, but also living in, like, ghetto-ass places, like low-income housing, Like the shit that I've seen and done there when you can't get in trouble when you're too young to get in trouble It felt like that chapter of my life was like a movie
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah You know you ever write it down? I mean I would you should I mean I think the only thing I could picture it being as like a movie is like some harmony Korean type shit Okay, I mean a little less fucked up, but like a little less fucked up But that style of like rawness just like of like a like crazy characters. Like kids? Yeah, like, you know. Also, it was during like the whole crack epidemic.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So that was like the biggest layer of all of it. You never smoked any crack. I never did. No. My friend cooked it in his apartment though. And the dealer that used his apartment would like spoil us. And like, you know, as kids, when you don't have money, getting all the like Nintendo games and getting like, you know, taking us out to Chinese places, driving us to fucking Brooklyn. buying us weed, getting us alcohol,
Starting point is 00:20:17 all that shit was just like, you know, that's a movie show. It's a fantasy, yeah, cooking crack in the kitchen. Cooking crack, you know? Hell yeah. I got a rap line as like, reverse racism. I'd be whipping that white.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I'd be whipping that white. That's a great line. Thanks. Are you making music right now? Well, I just, yeah, I mean, I haven't been making recently, but while I'm out here, I'm definitely going to be making some music.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Like, I have a few producers, or friends. I know where to go, like, to get beats to record, all that shit. So, like, I'm going to get at least a few things done all I'm out here. I feel like L.A., if anything doesn't die in L.A., it would be the music scene. I feel like musicians still will hold this place with high enough regard, or people will still come here to make music. Yeah. If all the other industry dies, and it is, it's gone. But I think music will still kind of live in the roots of this. Like, you think about Laurel Canyon and the, you know what I mean, like in the history of this city with music and artists kind of calling this home. I used to live.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Wonderland. Oh, you did? Yeah. I mean, like, I think historically, people kind of know, but people don't really know. Like, I had a great story told to me one time, Toots and the May Toots. You like Toots? Do you know who that is? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I got to meet Toots. I got to meet Toots. One of my day jobs was working the music industry, doing visas for bands when I first moved out here. And my boss had worked with Toots for years. And I got to go to a show and chat with them after. which was kind of surreal. And they told a story about the time that, you know, Bob Marley and a bunch of guys were like staying in the canyon, I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And they were like hanging out, getting high. And they thought, oh, yeah, you know, like, we have our weed. You know what I mean? Like, we don't need to smoke your shit, California weed. This is also a long time ago. Yeah. And they were kind of like, you know, talking shit being like, we don't need this, whatever trash you guys are smoking.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And then a couple of Bob's crew members were like, all right, well, I'll try some of this California nonsense. And he was like, they got so fucking cooked that they were super late for the show because they were way too because they were smoking. Yeah, back then the Jamaica weed was like the you know, where you get like a nickel bag of like shake
Starting point is 00:22:29 and like seeds. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're barely getting high. You can smoke it all day all night. But I think when their first introduction to like California weed, they were like mind bent up in the canyon and Tuts was saying how they were like late, they couldn't leave the house. Like they were too cooked, like they just couldn't do it.
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Starting point is 00:23:59 Restrictions apply. See terms at fandul.com slash predicts slash bonus hyphen offer hyphen terms. Ginger. I like cintures. Dude, we've never really like kicked it. They're, this, it's crazy because I've seen you from afar and I've been a fan for a long time. And it's kind of wild to like all the years of your, you've been so public. Like you, your life has been so public for so long.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Deliberately, you've done this on purpose. Well, yeah, because like in the middle of like, you know, like shit happening, like being on every social. Like since I got my start on the internet, any site that came out, like Vine, I'm like, okay, I'm on it, you know, fucking. But you were way before all that shit. No, I understand. But like, the way to survive is like when you see this new shit. coming out in the internet since my whole pretty much existence in l.A. happened from internet shit i had to like kind of evolve with the internet so all the new shit that came out
Starting point is 00:24:54 you know i did shit so like when i'm doing vine and kids come up to me that were not even alive when my show was airing being like oh i see your vines you know i mean like wild i think that type of stuff is kind of valuable you know oh yeah well you got to keep i mean you have to keep up at the times i mean like yeah if if you're not moving with the thing it's going to move without you i'm not saying you need to like be beholden to them but it is a piece of it i mean we're this is the internet now but i this is the greatest version of it because we get to make it on our own and then show them what we make which has always been the it's always been kind of the guts and the core of creation on the internet was like
Starting point is 00:25:30 well we'll make it we'll just give it to the fans that like it yeah we don't need to go give it to the machine it's nice that the machines exist but like and music is the same way a lot of the time yeah yeah i mean more and more indie indie indie music's always always always been you know a cornerstone of the growth of of good new artists but now I feel like there's so much indie music because the internet was like everything anyone all the time yeah you can take it anybody can take a shot and then you have the people that blow up and they just still never sign they're like I don't need you now I mean but why sometimes why I guess like if you don't want it what would be what is it gonna do
Starting point is 00:26:05 do for you yeah it just puts you in debt put you in debt right you get that advance you spend it on all sorts of bullshit yeah but now I'm following Who did I just see, dude? Is the baby doing cooking classes online? Is that what I saw? He's like, have you seen this online? He's doing, he's like cooking before. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He's like doing, he's cooking full meals outside of his tour buses, and he's now, like, gotten enough fanship from it, right? Is that right? Yeah, there's one. That's funny. I mean, this is super long time ago, but rest in peace, but Cooleo had a cooking show. It was called Cooking with Cooleo, and he called himself the ghetto gourmet, and he made a book out of it. And I did a collab with him. And he had the salt in dime bags.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So cute. That's so good. Coolio's the man, dude. Yeah. Rest in a piece of hundred. Yeah, there's the baby. What is it called? Oh, that's Coolio? Wait, I can't see. What does it say? There's cooking with coolio. He was the man, too. Yeah, and I went over his house for Thanksgiving and he made fried turkey. It was the first time I had a fried turkey. It was amazing, yeah. You loved it, right? Yeah, and then... You can't go back. And then he gave me some weed, and I feel like if I went to any lawn and grabbed a bunch of grass and rolled up and smoked it, I would have gotten higher than the weed that he gave me in. It was so bad.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's funny to know Culeo had dirt weed. I love that. That actually makes him so much better. He was such a likable, fun person that would be around. A good dude. Yeah. Who at your core, at your youth core in the hip-hop world was your biggest influences? Like, who did you love the most as a kid?
Starting point is 00:27:43 As a kid, definitely Snoop Dog, NWA. I listened to NWA like it was like my religion. I'd go sit at the beach with my mom, and I would be blasting NWA. West Coast only. No, no, no, no, no. Like, Jerry the Damager, like, Trap called Quest. Dela? Gangstar, Dela.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Even, like, Degable. planets I was fucking with. It was mostly actually East Coast but then like you know some of the West Coast I loved only East Coast I like fought it like crazy when I was a kid I was like when I listened to West Coast
Starting point is 00:28:24 I was from Chicago and I was like I only like East Coast shit and then Wutang came out and was like the best group of all time Yeah but West Side Connection really I love West Side Connection man I love that album I was like Yeah started to really get into West Coast shit but I still kind of I still all always have an affinity for my tops were always like gnaz and gang star and i love k rs but he wasn't
Starting point is 00:28:47 like my ultimate yeah krs has a couple like really catchy songs that you can listen to at any time you know like the bridge is over and shit yeah he's got look that bridge i i respect him but i don't buttumap but i buy but i buy but i buy hey hey hey you should go walking around wots by yourself Put-a-ba-bye! Just do that. Put-a-pa-bye! See if I get jumped. I did an IRL stream in Compton by myself, but it was during the day.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah, daytime's fine. It's fine. Nighttime's no-buena. It'll be like a cool, like, title, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I got streams tonight by these like six-foot-seven fucking, like, college ballers. And they just were like, yo, we saw you were here. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:29:32 And I just got in their car. We just drove around. that I'm like, that's like, like, the good thing about, like, streaming like that, there's no raw form of reality they could get. There's no editing. Everything that happens just happens. And, like, no matter how technology changes, you can't get a more raw version of reality than, like, you know. Streaming.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, live. It's real. It's here. There's no fixing it. There's no changing it. There's no technology that can come out that makes reality more real, you know? That's true. Maybe visuals will look more real, but that's the one.
Starting point is 00:30:07 But that's it. And with human, random human interaction, because you pick up some great. Oh, yeah. One of the funniest moments, I know you have hated it and loved it. But when you went to get your hair cut. Oh, yeah. And they gave you a lady cut. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:22 The best. It's one of the funny to this day, bro. That rips me to shreds. And you're like, I think this dude takes off a chick. It's the funniest thing. And he goes, Bella, and he kisses my cheek. That, dude, that ripped me to shreds. I thought that was one of the funniest.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And you rolled with the haircut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You rocked the haircut. Bro, the, that might be the best one, but I think the most memorable one to me is, I started doing our old stream in Venice, and this homeless-looking Willy Wonka guy came up to me, and he's like, where do you live? I'm like, I don't know. He goes, you're coming with me now.
Starting point is 00:31:02 You want a lollip? and he kept giving me like candy and he goes, I just got out of the psych ward I'm going to go harass those cops and like my old stream's like run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run. They'll go to the guys' house. Don't eat that lollipop. And we're at the
Starting point is 00:31:16 Whole Foods parking lot. And so we walked down to walk down Rose Avenue and there's a bunch of homeless people like in the way sitting on the stairs and they're yelling at that guy because he probably fucked them over and did some crazy shit. So he goes
Starting point is 00:31:31 they're mad at me I'm gonna go through the laundry mat, just meet me on the other side. Everybody's chats just going run, run, run, run, run. So I stepped over them, and I just, like, fucking ran. And I went into this bar that I always go to, and, like, hid it in the, like, background, like, in the bathroom. I was like, it was like a fucking thriller movie. Yeah, I was going to say, narrowly escaping death live on the stream. Yeah, yeah, it's fun shit.
Starting point is 00:31:58 The stream, the, the, the streaming is fun, but also, Isn't there moments that you're like, I don't want to, I don't want to put this all on camera right now? Like, do you ever get hung up by it? I don't, so like, like, doing it in America now is like, you know, for the most part,
Starting point is 00:32:16 kind of like a waste. Burnt? Yeah, it's burnt and it's just like too risky in certain areas. So now I just like stream my vacations. Like, it's like pretty much limited to like Japan and Greece. Japan, man.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah. The greatest. Yeah, it depends of this. What a fantasy town. It's like if you could, describe Japan to someone. It's like if you took off on the airplane and landed on another planet.
Starting point is 00:32:39 100%. Yeah. And the trippiest thing to me was, like around Tokyo, you'd get out at a random train stop. And you're like, I'm in a new city again. It's still Tokyo,
Starting point is 00:32:48 but you're in a whole new city world and then you do it again and you go four or five trains stops. Whole new world. I mean, like, that happens occasionally in the state. Like New York has, you know, different spots that you go to
Starting point is 00:32:59 that transform differently. Yeah. But, dude, Japan was, it was crazy. It was like, it blew my mind at how a whole new city felt every time I got out of a train stop. I did exactly just that. I was like, I'm going to get lost on stream. That's what my goal is today.
Starting point is 00:33:13 So I just randomly got on a fucking train. Counted it. I didn't count stops. I'm just like whenever I feel like it, oh, okay, I feel like getting off. I got off and right where I got off there was a bus and I'm like, I'm getting on that bus. Then I went on the bus and then we went on another like 20 minutes. And then it was like starting to rain. So I saw a little like hair cutting place.
Starting point is 00:33:32 He didn't make me look like a woman, thankfully. I went in. This, like, Japanese guy gave me, like, the best fucking scalp massage of my life and cut my hair. And then, like, you know, I fucking hopped in a taxi and went back to my hotel. It was nice. Awesome. Just speaking to Japan and your boy, Bourdain, I found myself searching for Piss Alley after I watched that episode. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Piss Alley is very popular now. It is now. Yeah, yeah. I was. I went after I had heard about that because I was, like, fascinated with it. I got my picture up on a couple of those bars. Those bars are the best, too. The coolest thing is when you get invited to someone's apartment.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You're like in someone's house. You're like in someone's living room. We did that multiple times. We met this couple who was quite young and they were like backpacking. And you could tell they were not a couple outside of this trip. This was new for them. Like they had met on a trip. And they were young lovers and we were fascinated with them.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So my wife and I were like, we should just buy them a ton of shit. Like food and dinner and drinks. Just like give them the night. So I could tell they were living that movie. I was directing the movie. They were in it, you know, and we bought them drinks and food all night, and we were getting hammered party and going out dancing. We were in this guy's living room dancing. Listen to records on the floor.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Some guys, like, little loft. And at some point I thought, man, we just, like, made, we could have made a baby with these people. Like, we could have just produced a family. I like doing that for people. It's fun, man. Because it's like, if you do something nice for people, like, you just, like, you know, you smile and you think about it. But then you don't realize the staying power could have. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:00 And like that shit could like really just like, that could just stay in their brain for it forever. To transform their future. Yeah. It's kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. Yeah. Drop nuggets all over the place for people. Yep. Yeah. Like, well, you know what I see now is people do this thing on streams. I see people like leaving money hidden all over L.A. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:20 There's a guy that's like very famous that does it. Yeah. Like they're like, it's kind of like one of those like cash things. Yeah. He's like, I'll leave, you know, he's like, I'm leaving five grand in this random spot. And I'm like, this is crazy. just bury money in these spots. But the fanship and the following is so big,
Starting point is 00:35:36 they find it fast. Yeah. Like there's a dude that was in Chicago I saw on a stream, and he's like a find me guy. He's like, can you find me? And this girl found him in seconds. It was trippy. I feel like the savvy people
Starting point is 00:35:47 that could find the cash probably don't need it as much as the people that you could give it to. That's probably true. Just give it away. Yeah. He should be giving it away. It is true. You got to come back to L.A. by the way.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I kept thinking about that. You and the awesome thing. You gotta go. I am. I paid for my thing like a year in advance, so like I'm going to have to like maybe. I have things to do anyway. So like once I'm probably going to get an Airbnb for a month, go back for a little bit. Then I got to go to New York and then I'm flying in Greece.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I'm going to be in Greece for like six weeks. This is your life on the run. It's not, I mean, it's not really as crazy anymore. I'm not like, you know, the homie Oliver Tree. I know you just had him on. Love, dude. He's one of my favorite people. He's awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:30 that motherfucker will do some Steve Aoki shit where he'll be on a flight every day for like fucking three months I don't do that I'll be chilling for like a few months like five maybe even five months and then I'll go somewhere that I really love and I'll go there for like a month and a half
Starting point is 00:36:47 and just disappear I just post the fuck up solo Do you ever travel with anybody? Sometimes I travel with people but I have a lot of people in Greece My whole family is over there on my dad's side So people are still over there Yeah yeah yeah so like
Starting point is 00:37:00 Milanarchus. Milanakis, malacca. So when we're up in the mountains, it's like, it's like a twilight zone. Like, it's my double life. My aunt has goats. She has fig trees. She has fucking potatoes planted.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Tomatoes, fucking strawberries. And it's like so old school up there. Like, each village has, like, a population of 20. And you're just looking at the mountains with no clouds, perfect fucking weather. And you're just, like, eating off the land. It's like, it's like, I'm living. another life and I'm so I feel so lucky to get to do that you know could you live there I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:37 I feel like places that are really magical to me like Japan and Greece are probably going to be less magical if I live there full time that's probably very true yeah so I don't know you move to borobora it's going to feel a lot different if you're there every day yeah I am going to get my dual citizenship because it's a strong one to have because Greece is part of the EU yeah so like those 27 countries, like pretty much all the popular EU countries, I can live at, permanently, work at permanently, like, just because the Greek passport, you get access to all 27. You do? Because the EU, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. That's wild, dude. So I am going to finish that up. I just have a lawyer over there doing shit. A good Greek lawyer? Yeah, a good Greek lawyer. I got a, I got a, I got to get a couple of apostiles. I don't know how to pronounce it as the apostile.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Apostal. Apostle? They like, they do a stamp on your paper. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't speak? You don't speak? Oh, I speak enough to get by.
Starting point is 00:38:36 You do? Gamo tibana yesu malacatiles, eh? Love that, yeah. I can speak enough to get by, you know, like just basic shit. Like, I'm, I get lost when people are like in full fucking, oh. Yeah, Greek sounds like, it sounds like a more yelly Italian. That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 It's like a screaming Italian. Yeah, when my dad used to be on the phone, I'd be, he sounded like he's, a fight every time. Yeah, he's not. Ella, hello! Okay, okay! I'm just like, bro, they can hear you. What the fuck's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:39:08 No, they need to project. The Greeks need to project for some reason. Yeah. They need everyone to know they're talking. Yeah. It's the same. A lot of European countries are like that too, where you're like, are they mad? I felt that every time I'm in France, I'm always like, is that guy fucking mad? It's like, no, that's just how they are. If it's France, they probably are mad.
Starting point is 00:39:25 They're just, no, they're not they're nonplussed. Their whole attitude is like, yeah, okay, what do you want? You want a cheeseburger? They're like annoyed, but it's fine. Do you know what I mean? Like, they get by. I found the stereotype about French people was not true except for the waiters.
Starting point is 00:39:42 The waiters was like a movie. It was like spot on, true, all the stereotypes. They're not fucking with you at all. Yeah, yeah. But they're just like the civilians. No, the people are great. I didn't get that by, you know. The people are great. I didn't have a phone for some reason.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I needed to call someone and these girls were sitting next to me. I was actually at one of the places Bourdain went to. And I was like, can I please borrow your phone? I know you don't know me, but I need to call someone. And she goes, okay, okay. She gave me your phone. I got to call my friend. And then I just, you know how they leave the little receipts out?
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah. I just took her receipt and paid for their bill. That's tight. Yeah, just like, you know, show a little love back, you know. Small things. Yeah. But the solo travel, that doesn't ever get a little shaky for you? Like, are you ever, when you're on the go doing stuff?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Do you ever want a crew with you or no? Um, I usually at least have someone. Like, I know people in Japan. If I go to Japan, I'm going to be hanging out with, like, at least a few people. There's people that you know on wherever you're going. Not wherever. Like, if I was going to go somewhere new, like, I could reach out and probably find someone and they could take me around, you know? That's cool. If I posted an Instagram video being like, yo, I'm coming to Poland. Like, I'd get a few DMs being like, you know, blah, blah, blah. I could check into them make sure they're legit. And, like, I'll have someone to, like, take me around and hang out with. Like, that part's pretty. easy but I do go to a lot of repeat places like when I like back in the day a little bit like five
Starting point is 00:41:05 years ago I would go like to every you know a lot of different countries and now where where having you gone that you that's targeted I mean Taiwan's very small but I'd like to go to Taiwan yeah I've been in mainland China that was polarizing as fuck that was cool cool would you go to Hong Kong too I've been Hong Kong I like Hong Kong a lot yeah people a lot of people like people like Hong Kong yeah the buildings like there's some like dilapidated buildings it feels like Blade Runner. It's like really old school. But I like Hong Kong. I avoid Southeast Asia because it's too fucking hot.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I don't want to walk around with a backpack with batteries and it's 100 degrees and 100% humidity. Maybe if I like lose some of my fucking pregnancy. Philippines are never going to happen. It might. I think I just got to lose like 35, 40 pounds. And then I'll like feel more comfortable being in fucking living out of the sauna the whole time. We should do, we should do lose 35 to get Andy to the Philippines. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You should do like a challenge. Make me lose enough weight to go to the Philippines. Yeah. Philippines would be cool. Philippinos are really nice. Yeah, the best. Yeah. I'd like to do that. They're funny. Also, there are some off times where it's not like as bad heat-wise. Yeah, but it's pretty hot. Yeah, it's pretty hot. And I can't. You're pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Yeah, ditto. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that to me, dude. Don't do it. I'll hurt that leg. I'll fuck you so hard. I'll break that leg again. Yeah, you sip it, bitch. What'd you do to crack the leg the first way? It's got... So for years, I was going to this, like, studio. We'd go to record. And also, after, you know, since lame-ass, L.A. closes at 2 a.m. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:42:43 After that, we would just go to the studio because it was a big, big open space and we'd just bring chicks back. We'd drink and shit. And everybody told us, don't go to the, like, underground club. next door. It's like illegally open. It's all gangsters. It's not hood. So naturally we went. It's not hood. It's actual like gangsters and shit. And they would pop their head
Starting point is 00:43:04 in once in a while. We'd be like, oh, it's the wrong door. So we never went. None of my boys went. And then one day we went because there's an A&R that only fucks black chicks. And she was going there.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And I was like, you know, I probably had a couple joints. I was drinking fucking Hennessy. They called me to the stage to do some rap shit. It wasn't a real stage. It looked like bunk bed ladders that just went up 20 feet and I climbed up that shit and I fell and I broke my leg in two
Starting point is 00:43:36 places. Holy shit. And while my leg was broken in two places, these guys that were helping me to the car robbed me. That's incredible. Yeah, yeah. They jacked you while you were broken. Yeah, and I had a lot of cash on me. Why are you carrying a lot of cash?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Because I had like four people in town and I wanted to like show him a good time. You know, I was just like, I don't know. Like you had like a lot a lot? No, no. I didn't have like 10 bands. Yeah, a couple Gs. A lot.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot to get robbed. Yeah. Did you have jewelry on or anything? Watch his phones. No, no. So I was screaming in the back of the car.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And then, yeah, I was like, I don't care about the cash. Just get my wallet. I didn't want to have to get a new ID, new fucking cards and shit. I just screaming for someone to go. go down and try to get my wallet from the guys. I got my wallet back with all my IDs and shit. The people that took me to the hospital were from out of town, so they took me to ghetto-ass Kaiser Permanente.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And I didn't want them to operate on me. And they're like, they came into like, you know, you're sitting there with your leg broken into, we need to operate on you or you need to figure it out. So I had an old friend that her mother's a nurse, and she got a private ambulance to take me to Cedars. Damn. Like right in the nick of time.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So I got the Cedars. They did the operation and... Chateau Marmont, private ambulances. You're on one. That's how we do, you know what I mean? I guess, bro. That's incredible. And so you went to Cedars.
Starting point is 00:45:08 They fixed you up. You got pins all in your legs. So you're a bionic man. Not just pins, like a metal implant. Like a... And you crack that shit bad. Yeah. It's the Tib and Fib.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I crack both. T and B. T and B. You know I be doing. I'd be cracking that Tib and fib and fib. You should spin a rhyme about that That's my tip and fib My peep
Starting point is 00:45:27 That's wild to fall Was you Were you embarrassed and hurt And got robbed It's like layers of sad I mean no Because I was drunk and high Oh you didn't give a shit
Starting point is 00:45:38 I was just like fucked Like I couldn't be angry The embarrassment would have overwashed I would have tried to walk out I'd have been like I'm fine man I'm so embarrassed of falling I was like
Starting point is 00:45:47 I fell on my neck at the YMCA Got my legs taken out from me and I tried to pretend like it wasn't that big of a deal. Big deal. Concussion. Big deal. Yeah, I almost broke my ass outside. Yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You almost died out front of our studio. Hmm. Yeah, gurgling, maybe. How many times you think you've almost died? Like, how many close calls have you had? I don't know, man. I've been fucking some pretty fast cars, probably going like 190 or something. That's heavy.
Starting point is 00:46:19 That's kind of scary. How about gun to the head? When they robbed you, they put... Did they, was it gun out? Why would they have to put a gun in my hat? It's a little fat Greek American with fucking cash in his pocket with a broken leg in two. That's the funniest shit. We're going to rob this little fat- Greek kid.
Starting point is 00:46:33 We better pull the gun out in case he doesn't give it to us. What they did? They were just like, run your shit and you were like, all right, grab my wallet. Bro, I was on the floor with my leg broken in two. They fucking just dug in my fucking pant pockets. Damn. Tough. We're not going back to that nightclub anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:49 No, I got it closed down. You did. You called Karen Bass? Yeah, I was like, let me speak to your manager. I'll close this place down, fellas. You guys aren't robbing me. I was like, yo, these guys are going to rot in hell. If you don't have any conscience at all, you're going to rob someone while their leg is broken.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Like, suck a dick and die. Kill yourself. That's awful, bro. That's crazy, yeah. I mean, a little funny. I'm not going to lie, but that is funny. If you'd be like, ah, and they're just digging in my fucking mess. It's bad news.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So what are you doing now? What's next when you come? Like, what's, what do you want? want next? What's on the horizon? I just want to move back here because I think I can just do more creative shit. I don't know what that is. Would you do a show again? Yeah, but it would have to be way different. The delivery bits wouldn't work. The outdoor shit wouldn't work. Like the sketch comedy, like weird sketch comedy shit, but work because that shit's timeless. Yeah, of course. But like the people outdoors, they're just too used to cameras. The deliveries are all Uber's. They're not like,
Starting point is 00:47:49 you know, old foreigners. Right. So it would have to be way. different but I would do another show again as long as it's not on old-fashioned TV it's got to be on like a streaming service it's got to be on the internet yeah yeah what year to your show premiere 2004 to 2007 I think yeah
Starting point is 00:48:06 pretty instrumentally like ahead of its time like pretty remarkably ahead of its time there's a lot of people trying to kind of do that thing years later that you know I'm not saying you're like the only one but you were pretty quick to it yeah I appreciate it yeah I think the thing
Starting point is 00:48:23 that's different now, which people are shameless about, and it takes away the comedy, is annoying and embarrassing people versus making yourself the butt of the joke. Like, and I don't like that. Like, just being an asshole, blatant asshole to people is not funny. When you make yourself look like a goofball, you might be still disturbing people a little bit. It's not like 100% innocent. But you got to make yourself the butt of the joke because then the audience laughs with you and they're not feeling awkward for the other people. Totally. That's like I told you. That's our secret formula. We, I did, punk was the first thing
Starting point is 00:49:00 I ever did, hidden camera. And the bit for us was always, because punk's infancy was extremely like, look what you did. Look what you did. It was a lot of look what you did. Yeah. And I think like when we started writing on that show, I was like, this can't be a look what you did. It's got to be a like, look what I did. Can you help me? So then they're inherently involved. They feel bad. You fucked up. So you look like the idiot. versus the celebrities are dumb dumb ass look at how stupid they look you fucked it up you ruined and that that did happen on the show still yeah but more often than not we'd want the pie on our face so if we look dumb or we were ridiculous it helped sell the bit more instead of being like that's mean
Starting point is 00:49:40 yeah it was more like oh that's funny to watch us have pie on our face when it's pie on their face like i see a lot of that now in hidden camera world and i don't love it like uh you know and we're subject to it like we did it but i didn't It always made me feel gross. The end of night, I'd go home and I'd take a shower. And I remember, like, before I go to bed being like, I fucking hated that bit. Because if we fucked with someone in a way where it was like,
Starting point is 00:50:03 it was on them. It was like, it should have been on us. I had a tough time sleeping some of those shoots because he were bummed out. Yeah. Also, my big thing, which I think I was guilty of, or my show was guilty of a little bit, that, you know, I think, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:21 when you think about the old Howerster and whack pack, It's like the exploitation of people who are not like fully there. Yeah. And I feel bad about that. Like I think, I think a lot of the people that were on our show, we probably made their lives better. But I don't really like that specific part of it. I know what you mean. Because we feel bad about that.
Starting point is 00:50:42 We learn. Yeah. He didn't know. Back then it was a different time. I mean, Howard Stern is a very preachy guy now. He's wagged the finger and he's the same guy that made girls come on a Sibby and live on air. You're like, all right. I don't know if I want to hear you.
Starting point is 00:50:53 fucking preach to me. You had a guy named Gary the retard on. That's what you named him on the show. It was like, chill out. Chill out. I was like a lot of times. And I know we're all learning and growing and changing and thank God. But like, it is weird that when you look back on some of that stuff and the heyday of that world of like the stern world, this like heavy in your face, loud, brash.
Starting point is 00:51:15 A lot of it, you were like, this was a little fucking meat. Like it was a little fucked up. But like also like back then. It was fun to watch because it was like that. Because it was crazy. It was like, yeah. It was wild.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And like, sometimes I feel like that with certain Instagram, like, accounts where they have, like, autistic son or something. And they're just blasting the video in their face while they're freaking out all the time. It's always a little strange. I'm like, do they want this? Yeah, exactly. They can't really know if they want it. And, like, but then they have, like, a really loving audience that are like,
Starting point is 00:51:46 yo, I have an autistic son too. Thank you for your videos. So, like, I think it's, like, kind of like. Both things can exist. Yeah, it's kind of in the middle. Whereas we talk about love on the spectrum, one of my favorite shows, but they electively go on that show
Starting point is 00:51:59 because they want to find love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is more of like a showcase, not an exploitation. This is like, well, these people want love but are we're laughing at them, though, we are a little bit. No, no, I'm laughing with them.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah. Yes, uh, I love Connor. That's my dog. Connor's my dog, dude. Connor's number one. It's hard, you know. You're laughing at the, you're laughing at the world of,
Starting point is 00:52:20 um, Because love is, I think what it just shows on those shows is like love is extremely complex. I don't care if you're neurotypical or not. Love is confusing for everybody. It's not our fault though. Like instinctually if someone who's like disabled, mentally disabled makes a crazy noise or something. You know, we're not saints. It's just instinctively kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I heard it when you said it. It didn't even happen, but I heard it happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like it's not like we're bastards for laughing at that, but it's also kind of like, oh, fuck. It's kind of mean, you know. A little, but also, if they find it funny, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It's like a fart. Is a fart not funny? Ever? I'm weird with that shit. I don't know. Farts are always funny to me. For the rest of my life. Fart is not funny to you.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Somebody farts in a restaurant next to you? Do you hear it? hilarious. I mean, I have to laugh. Sometimes, I guess. I'm going to laugh every time. It's impossible. I remember being, I remember like my dad pissing with me out of baseball at a Cubs game,
Starting point is 00:53:17 and we're peeing and we're peeing next to each other. And I was young. and a guy like two down just ripped and my dad chuckled and I was like see, farts are funny even when your dad like even when your dad's farts are cool when your dad
Starting point is 00:53:33 also it took me out of the fact that when you pee in those things when you're a little kid and you're thinking about how much bigger everyone's penis is than yours the mental mind fuck of pissing in a trough as a young man a trough
Starting point is 00:53:44 scariest, you said Soldier Field used to have troughs so you'd pee in a trough and you'd be, there's just cocks out and when you're a young boy you're like god this is just nerve wracking you're like I hope I can pee please don't get nervous that would be a good bit
Starting point is 00:53:58 for like a pretend podcast where you're just like actively peeing interviewing people and you just keep looking down at each other are you looking at my cock? Are you looking at my cock? Just mid mid-pod So anyway the first time I wrote a book it was just cock out
Starting point is 00:54:13 and the podcast is called Cox Out Cox Out That is a social a social thing that for some reason I don't even know why they were like yeah just make them all piss right next to you're like well you could you could shield some people
Starting point is 00:54:28 it would be nice to have privacy cox and a trough the good old days man that's what the good old days were then you go to Japan and it's like separate stall the walls go up to the fucking ceiling yeah privacy dude
Starting point is 00:54:41 yeah you want to fucking rub one out yeah you're free I got my anime You like anime? No, I don't really. Come on, dude. No, I like normie anime. Like, Studio Ghibli shit. Like, super normie.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Yeah, like very, like, you like anime with story. Yeah, like Old Cowboy Bebop. You love that. That's dope. And even the creator said, this is better to watch dubbed. And no one says that with, like, anime shit. Why that?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Why? That's weird. Because he just said it feels like a very kind of, like, American thing. thing or something. And he's like, it's better to watch a dub than read subtitles with this show.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I guess that's... And it's really good. Like, the acting is that's really good. Better dubbed. But yeah, I mean, like, my anime history is, is almost zero. Like, fucking Ninja Scroll,
Starting point is 00:55:32 fucking spirited away. Like, all the studio Ghibli shit. Like, I don't go deep with, like, the series and shit. You, you know, that's not your thing. Nah. What is your shit?
Starting point is 00:55:42 Um, I don't know. I watch a lot of YouTube. I watch a lot of, like, travel shows. What's Andy doing at night? At night, I'm probably like nerding out and like watching streams and watching shows. Sometimes I'll like, sometimes I'll find a good series to watch and I'll like lay in my bed, I have the series on the MacBook and I like play a mobile game while the series is going on?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Do we have to do two things all the time at once? We can't do, we just can't consume, I have to be on my phone doing something while I'm doing other movies. Yeah, if it's a movie that I'm really into. too, I won't do that, but like a series and I'm watching like, fucking six back-to-back episodes, I'm like, yeah, fuck it. I have to. I think we're living in the new world where it's like I have to be distracted
Starting point is 00:56:30 while I'm consuming. Otherwise, it gives me anxiety. Yeah. I just wish there was a show that came out that I was like absolutely addicted to, because that doesn't really happen that often. What have I gotten addicted to? A lot of times it's old shit that I go back and rewerey. Have you ever seen Toast of London? Do you know who Map Are you? Not sure.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Brother, I think it's the funniest. I think it's the funniest. Bring up a picture. your Matt Barry. See if you've seen him before. I like UK humor though. Oh, bro, then you would. Matt Barry is got... Do you ever see what we do in the shadows? No. Oh, damn, dude. So good. Have you seen the IT crowd? The IT crowd? Yeah, have you ever seen the IT crowd? No, I gotta catch up.
Starting point is 00:57:02 If you like British humor, that's like... I just watch like old shit, like peep show and fucking... Peep show's phenomenal. Yeah, yeah. Bro, you would love Toast. That's Matt Barry. What the fuck did you just say? Oh, wait, wait, wait, I know that guy. Yeah, you've seen him. Yeah, but I don't know if I've seen that show. Bro. Toast of London. Look, I liked what we do in the Shadow. but Toast of London to me is that where he's at his like... You gotta text me some of these. I'm gonna hit you with this shit.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Because honestly, like, I think Matt, I have such a crush on this dude. There's like a couple of people that do things that I've such a crush on where I've like gone out of my way to ask my agents, which I've never asked them anything my whole career because they don't fucking do anything anyway. But I've asked them like, hey man, can you get me on?
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'll do it for free. If they're doing anything. Yeah. Don't ask them, I want a job. If they have a thing and they're doing, be like, Santino will do it and I'll do it for free. like I bugged I bugged for so long to get on baskets I wanted to get on I asked them a thousand times because I love Galfinacus I think I just think that show was so brilliant and all the time they were like they appreciate it but they're not using a lot of actor actors they're using like either unknowns or locals in Bakersfield and I was obsessed and I hit them up I was like tell them I will pay for this opportunity like I just want to be in the machine because I think it was so subversive and smart and that's how I feel about Matt Barry I think he's a fucking a living comedic genius.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And he kind of has this like effortless comedy where I know he knows he's funny, but he doesn't need to care about trying. How do you feel about Nathan Felder? Nathan Fielder? Nathan Fielder. You know, I like him. I like him, but a lot of his stuff
Starting point is 00:58:40 to borders on like, it's a little mean. Yeah. Like some of it can be very mean. Some of it's great. But some of it is almost like, Damn, dude, that's, like, fucking mean to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 You know what I mean? I get that. I get that. You know what I mean? It's brilliant. It walks an ethical line. It walks that line very close of, like, is this very mean to do to this man? It's just like some of the shit is like so high level though.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Some of it's, dude, the learning to fly a fucking plane is, I mean, what are we talking about? Like, a guy learned, got his pilot's license. I mean, that's insane. Have you seen that? No, I'm too. Holy shit. The rehearsal's insane. You need, that's like probably the most.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Oh, the rehearsal. It's incredible. Probably the most epic version of like, the guy. went all the way to like learn how to fly a plane on a 737 right is that what it is I mean bonkers but there's moments that are so funny they're undeniable with him like with the guy with the old dude where he's like
Starting point is 00:59:28 what about the alligator in the room where I had to reach the free TV or something insane yeah like some of it's like I think high level genius shit you drink your son's pee yeah when I'm scared he's like why do you drink your son's pee when you get scared because then I'm not scared anymore
Starting point is 00:59:44 it's fucking really I'm gonna text you a bunch of shit yeah yeah we're gonna get on And you know what I want you to do for me? You need to do me one favor. When you go into the studio and you go to make music at some point, you have to text me, I want to come watch. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah, I would love that. Okay. Do you smoke weed? Okay. One of my favorite studios is called Conway. And you have your own private bungalow with like an outdoor area and it's like bougie as fuck. Like it's probably like maybe like three or four K for like one session.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Like and I want to, when I have the right producer, and the right track and like a couple songs that are just loaded to record. I want to rent that for like a day. And like that's the one all about you too. Say less. I would love to come. I genuinely would love to come. That would be dope. You might have to do some adlips.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Maybe. We'll see. Bada bada bada bada bada bada bada. You should get some right. You should get Bujubantan on. He's out of jail. He's going all over. He's free?
Starting point is 01:00:42 He's free. He's free. He's out. He's motherfuckuckuckus free. Where is he now, though? He's right here. He's outside. He's stripped on the shrub on the shrub. He's always right here. Yeah, he's always right here.
Starting point is 01:00:54 We'll go. Next time we make music, you make music. I want to come by and just, I want to feel it out. Yeah, that would be awesome. I'm down, baby. I love you. I appreciate you coming on the show. I want you to plug anything if you want to plug anything. Tell the audience, you know, do you want to plug anything at all? Is there anything that you really want to plug? Go listen to some reggae. Go listen to some fucking reggae. And, uh, before we go. show, we close the show the same way, look into that camera, and you say one word or one phrase
Starting point is 01:01:24 to end the episode. It used to be a word. Sometimes people like to impart wisdom or a bit, whatever you want. Kindness. In here, we pour whiskey, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginger's a fugitive. You only $5 for the whiskey for the whiskey. Chap down and spent a horse.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Ginger's, oh hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

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