Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Doc Willis

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

Doc Willis, the OG from the streets and Bad Friends, checks in to catch up with his pal Andrew. Doc doesn't smoke weed but he sure sounds like he does. Get in the deep waters for this episode and enjoy! #docwillis #whiskeyginger #podcast #andrewsantino =========================================== Sponsor Whiskey Ginger: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/whiskeyginger SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS SQUARESPACE Get that site up and running now! 10% off your order https://squarespace.com/whiskey KALSHI Download The App Today! https://kalshi.com/whiskey ======================================= Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeyging... https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Produced and edited by Joe Faria IG: @itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today, it's my boy. It's Doc Willis. Hell yeah. Alright, so tell me, I said, what haven't you eaten? Cause it's 2pm in the afternoon. I said cause I got this little ritual that I do to my great aunt. Cause she used to fucking,

but not fucking, she still do it. She only, she eats muffins and coffee in the morning. And I was like, what? You don't do breakfast? She was like, fuck bacon and eggs. I don't get it. Like she's a G like that. So just muffins and coffee?

Yup, that's what she have every morning. Every single morning. How old is she? 102. Shut up. No, no bullshit. 102? Yeah, you know who else eat worse than that every morning? Warren Buffet.

McDonald's. Yeah, he has a- He's an Egg McMuffin. Yeah, and if he have a good day, he has the combo or two of them. He says if it's the stock market is up, he has the combo or two of them. He says if the stock market is up, he has a sausage, egg McMuffin. If the stock market is down, he has a regular egg McMuffin.

Exactly. No meat. Yeah. Yeah, he's a money terrier. He was drinking fucking five cans of Coke every day? He drinks Coke every day. Bro. Yeah, but this doesn't work for everybody. But most people I know it do. Okay.

Because you know, I get it. In the hood they don't. In the hood they don't deserve, they're not on that, they're not on the new diet plans in the hood? Nah, it's like, well here's the thing about the hood too though,

because we don't really get a chance to go out and eat at restaurants like that, we cook a lot of that at home. Yeah, you cook more than you go out, but that's every, that's not just the hood. Anybody that doesn't have a lot at home. Yeah, you cook more than you go out. But that's not just the hood. Anybody that doesn't have a lot, like my wife's parents, they never go out to eat unless we're in town and we say, let's go out to, you know,

if there's a restaurant, but they live out deep and they don't ever go out. They cook at home every meal and then once a month maybe they go somewhere. Yeah, once a month's fine. Well, that's because, I mean, it's money, and then it's also convenience. They live deep out.

They don't live near a bunch of restaurants. Yeah, so it's not like a... But money is a part of it too, in the sense that it's a waste of money to go out, you know what I mean? It's a ripoff. But you're not part of it too, in the sense that it's a waste of money to go out, when it's, you know what I mean? Like it's a ripoff. But you're not in the hood anymore, bro. You're fancy.

Everybody knows, ever since Doc left Bad Friends, he moved to the hills, to the Hollywood Hills. He bought a mansion. He bought a mansion. I'm over here now struggling, but I'm doing okay. But it's like, fuck. You're doing good. You're doing real good.

For a single guy, perfect. Are you still over at Amazon? What are you doing? No. You're out. Yeah, because they switched the position, and then they asked me, oh, we got to transfer you, or you got to stay here and take less hours.

And I'm like, ah, fuck that, I'm out. Gone. Yeah, yeah, so I just said, I'll just figure it out, because I didn't want to go into, like before, a full-time schedule. Yeah. And the job I had before was not only was it flexible, but I can just do what I wanted to do as far as scheduling.

And come and go whenever you want. Exactly. That is interesting. So what are you up to now? You're still doing stand-up and you're running around. We haven't seen you. The fans wanna know what you've been doing. I see you sneak over to Seven Echis

and do some bullshit shows with those guys once in a while. Hey man, don't be like that. I hate it, I hate it. I'm a big hater, dude. I'm a big hater. Don't be like that, dog. What are you doing then outside? You doing stand-up still?

Yeah, still doing stand-up. Matter of fact, I'm gonna go to New York in October because I haven't been there since COVID. To stay? No, no, no. Well, I was gonna move out there. So I was trying to transfer from Amazon to one of their places out there,

but come to find out they were reducing hours at the place where I tried to go to. Are they paying less too, or no? It's the same pay. Same amount. Not only that, they was giving out a bonus, like an extra 2,000 for after 30 days because of the inconvenience of getting rid of my position.

Relocation. And yeah, and then another six months after that, they was gonna give me another 2,000, and they would give me a relocation check. So I was like, oh man, let me go on, let me jump on this right now. Why didn't you do it? Because I couldn't find nothing

that was feasible for me out there. You mean housing? No, I mean schedule-wise. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, right. Scheduling and trying to do like, if I moved to New York, I don't want nothing in the way of nighttime happening to get on stage.

And out there, they already got the best shifts. So I would have had to either take the night shift or the graveyard shifts or the, and I can't do the graveyard. What's a graveyard? Midnight to five? Midnight to like seven, eight in the morning. Yeah, so most of theirs was like 10, nine to four or beyond. So it was like, nah.

Even though you get like two or three days off, I still was just like, nah, cause if I moved to New York, I really want to make sure that I can just boom. And the position I had now, if I could have transferred or had them, if I could have transferred, then I would have been able to just do it

the way I wanted to do it, getting the right amount of hours, been able to make sure I make rent on time and not going my little savings I got, you know what I mean? So I just was like, all right. You got any gold bars? What's in your savings? You got any gold?

No, you. You gotta have gold. You know a gold bar just hit a million dollars for the first time? What? Gold bars just hit a million dollars for one gold bar. No, I had no idea. The highest value it's ever had in history. I was uh, listening to Neil was talking about.

The gold. The whole time we was in his room and he was talking about we're doing this room over there and he was talking about having gold bars and he has said I got a little gold and he has to do it in a bit. So I don't know how true it is, how much he has rather. I don't know, well he probably does have gold. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Chappelle show money.

They paid him in gold for the first season. But what's interesting is digital isn't based on gold. So I'm wondering is- Oh, because you're Bitcoin, huh? You got all that shit? You don't have any of that shit? Hell no. But it seems like that's the way that the government is kind of trying or wanting to

move. I don't know. The Fed can't control it, so I think that's scary for them. I think it's too sketchy all that digital money. They have no control over it. If they can't control it, I don't think they're gonna let it go. Well, they'll be able to control it if it's their digital. Yeah, but it's not. It's a free market. It's an open market. It's unregulated. That's why it's so volatile. I's who, I don't even, I lost money.

I lost money. On what? In Bitcoin. I lost some money. You brought the holy shit. A buddy of mine got me into it. He sunk me hard. Oh man, the motherfucking Fortrex.

I did it one time and then I was like, that's it, I'm never doing that again. Man, all them, in them Fortrex people that was hitting me up, I would be ignoring all that shit. I got smoked. That's it, I get the fuck outta here. I got smoked. My little brother was into that.

Now he's out of that because he wasn't profitable in that. And now because he learned a little bit about digital trading, he started learning for the past couple of years dealing with stocks. Now he's dealing strictly with stocks and going back and forth from trading with stocks. Oh, that's huge. Yeah, like he's like an animal with it.

He's like Warren was when I told him, I said, man, you're like Buffett was, or is, was, where he would wake up every morning just in the paper. That's him, he's in the papers, constantly looking at the points and everything. He's just talking to me. Yeah, yeah, he's smart. You can make good money in the stock market.

Yeah, if he can lead them escorts along with you. Yeah, but that's supporting the economy as well. Yeah, it is, but that's what I- These things are, everything equals out. Yeah, but you can't put that shit on your taxi. You think the best course is like... That's not a write-off? I just pulled it a little bit. Really? These are old chairs. Don't shit in these chairs, please. They got sweatpants on. It'll stick. It's all right. I was just letting you know in case it

lingers over. Yeah, if it gets to me. You laugh so hard you're shitting over there? Yeah. Is he into that? This course? Are you into that lifestyle? Hell no. Never. Remember when I was on the streets, yeah. Move this so that you don't have to. Yeah, so I won't have to be... Yeah, you don't have to reach.

What, what, what? When you were in the streets, you had a... Oh yeah, well you were pimp, you were pimp, right? Yeah, not a pimp. I was a drug dealer. What's the difference? The pimp is a person that... Yeah, you own women.

You know, protect women. You own women. No know, protects women. You own women. No, we didn't own the women. We had our little, like, they called them Gucci girls, and they had their own little gang, but we didn't own them. But you didn't make them get in the streets and earn money? Nah, because...

Listen, man. Bishop Don Juan is like a rarity. There's no like super money into that because it's not legal. And to have a brothel, it's too much of a location where you would have to have that. So if you put them on the streets, I'm fucking zane. I got crack heads I can get blow jobs for $10. I don't need, and that's the 80s when they first started. You know what I mean?

They was really good looking. They wasn't fucking pooky from New Jack City. They was like in the beginning of their phase and then you know, you're a teenager, I was getting it in out there. Yeah, having a good time. Yeah, that was the only time though where- Did you ever get burned?

Nah, I could always work on it. Mostly I was getting them gummies. You know what I'm talking about? Them gum jobs. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, bro. Yes, I was like, not to celebrate it though. No, you should.

Gummies you can celebrate though. It ain't got to do with. How come pimps can get away with wearing ridiculous shit? Why do pimps have to wear ridiculous shit? Fashion is fashion, T. Well, why wouldn't you just be like a regular dressed pimp? Why wouldn't you be a pimp that dressed like you? Why do you have to wear some wild shit?

They are, for the pretty much, and be honest with you. They're peacocking. Most of them don't dress like that. That's just the Bishop Don Juan. They don't dress like that in Detroit. They look like you and me. Right. And they out there just giving hell out on the streets.

You know what I mean? Because sometimes it is though, that there are drug dealers that also have prostitution. Women, yeah. Yeah, they have both. You know what I'm saying? So like if she got a brain of money and he out there selling dope too, or got people selling dope for him,

and he's controlling both. Right. He's like Microsoft. Got subdivisions. Just like Microsoft, bro. Yeah, he fucking, Bill Gates of the fucking streets. Yeah. So what are you doing now outside of standup?

Are you working? You got a little gig or no? No, I just be doing nothing right now. I just said I got the little money saved. You're good. Yeah, I'm gonna kick back for a minute and I said well maybe I'll try to get some things going and in between. On your own time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up with the ladies? Single.

Girls? Girls? They give them the finger-pointing weird ass creepy, yeah. Single Girls They give them the finger point, give them your stats, creepy yeah No, single, single. I still you know I've been Well, I actually had one that I was but she's too materialistic She wanted stuff. She said buy me shit. Just like cuz she felt like I should be Spoiling her with flowers and gifts and that's what a guy does if he really likes you. Really? Yeah, that's how they are now.

I didn't know. And then she was, she's 29. So it was like, ah man, it was rough. Because I was like, it was already, I was already hesitant with that. But then it just was like, at the same time, hesitant with that, but then it just was like at the same time she had that side of her too. So you got the age, I was against the age and she was trying to show me that she was into me and I said, okay, well, let's see where this goes. But she was like, you need to, if you really want to, you got to, you got to, and I said, no, it's just sound like you're trying to be like, have a trick.

I'm not a fucking, you know what I mean? She was trying to fool you. Where'd you meet her on an app? No Instagram Instagram, baby She came got you. Yeah, you know, I don't like to even fuck around with chicks on Instagram you know what I'm saying cuz I had a situation where I Met a metachick that way and instead of exchanging numbers on the ground I was like, you know what, fuck this, let's go to WhatsApp, right? Go to WhatsApp?

Yeah, WhatsApp. Why WhatsApp? Is she from international? Because you don't exchange your phone numbers or anything, so you can talk on there, which, because this was pre-Instagram phone calling. This was before using it. So you didn't want her to have your number.

The feature was there on the ground, but yeah, but I wanted to just do it on WhatsApp instead of through, because Instagram is kind of personal to me a little bit. It's just not personal to where I use it constantly, because you see, I don't really. You're never on there. Yeah, so it's like.

Once every six months you put some shit up. Yeah, it's just like whatever little thing I do, I throw it up there, that's it. But so I was like, let's just do WhatsApp, because WhatsApp is like the garbage can of like it's like the dark web Yeah, yeah, I thought what's up was only used for international whenever I'm overseas all the Europeans They want to hit you on whatsapp and I was always like why not just the iPhone if you have an iPhone You don't have an iPhone. I got an iPhone you do. Yeah, I don't get it because then you just use iMessage

But whatsapp is your phone number too. It's still your phone number. No, but I don't get it. Because then you just use iMessage. But WhatsApp is your phone number too. It's still your phone number. No, but they don't have it. They don't get to get to your phone number. Really? Yeah. They don't have access to your phone number. I didn't know.

They just have. So it's like, okay. But they can call you through the app. The app will call you, not your phone number. Yeah, the app will call you, exactly. So. So materialistic girl what's happening there and what did you want you to buy her I'm gonna show you what happened

with her oh which one the one from Miami or one shit I don't know okay well I got no but okay so let's talk about this so she was like okay it started with us just really having a good time. Then we started FaceTiming, video chatting through to what's happening. We having a good time, going back and forth. And then after about a month, month and a half, she started talking about bills. Bills.

Yeah, like, shoo. Yeah, mama, phone bill's high. Yeah, fuck it. They're just throwing out those. Yeah, it's too bad. Bye. Yeah, I was like, oh, okay, well, God bless you, hopefully. I'll pray for you, throw a little prayer, and hopefully you can get that taken.

You know what I mean? Jesus! Pay these bills! And he will! So then it was like, I said, okay, this is going good, right? And then she... Did you pay any bills? Never.

Doc? Never. Not one? Never. I bought her some feelers before. For a little bit of ass. This was back in the day though. I bought her some feelers for some ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I done that before. That was back in the day. But outside of that, no? No. Because for what? I mean, if you get women, right, that like you, you don't need to, for what? Right. I mean, it's kind of like that when you're going out with them and spending anyway going on dates and yeah if you're spent you're gonna be spending money somehow but but

when they asked for an object yeah that's desire yeah that's like it that's prostitution really like that chick she was like you give me some feelers that we can fuck and I was like to the mall I go. Yeah. I was literally in the middle. Hello, foot action? Yeah. Oh. Do you have feelers in stock? Yeah. I'm on my way. Yeah, she's bad too. So I'm like, all right, I'll buy these for you.

So did that. And then, but anyway, so it went from that to all of a sudden, normally when she would call me, phone would be her hand. Mm-hmm. Talking back and forth, look what outfit I got on. Right. Oh, you looking good. I'm a girl. I, look what outfit I got on. You looking good. I'm a girl, got on my mom.

I'm a girl. And then she, this time she calls me. And the phone is like set up on something. It's not a computer, you can see, I'm like, what? It's like on a stand. Like on a stand, because she's sitting at her dining room table, which she always called me from the table, but it was this time it was different.

I said, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I said, boy, shit about to pop off. My fucking street sense is a little spotty. Are you tinkling, little spotty street sense? Yeah, I'm sitting over there like, oh, something wrong. And then she had the long face. Hi. And I'm like, hi.

How are you? You OK? What's going on? You okay? What's going on? Somebody died? Well, you know, remember I've been talking to you for the past couple months or three months, whatever, about certain bills and a couple of them have gotten behind

and I need about $400 and I really need your help. And I was like, man, listen, we ain't even dated yet. We haven't even seen face to face. Yeah, you never met up. Yeah, we never met up. No, that's a pass. So I was like, yay. I was like, nah. I said, what am I?

And she said, what, if you want to be something to you, you got to show me that you're serious and that you're real. You got to come after me. You got to, and I said, by giving you $400? I don't even fucking know you like that. And then so all while she's talking to me, she doesn't realize that there's a man's shadow that's going across the floor.

Oh, no way. Yeah, that's standing behind the camera. So I look and I see the shadow on the floor. So I just don't say nothing. I'm just going there. I'm just feeding in like, ah, wait. And I said, well, I can't do it. And I said, then I got quiet.

And then she's like, what's wrong? I said, industry's kicking in on me. I'm gonna get a little uncomfortable for y'all in case y'all be like, what's wrong? I said, and the streets kicked in on me. I'm gonna get a little uncomfortable for y'all in case y'all be like, what the fuck? But I got quiet and I looked at her. I said, bitch, what do you think this is? You think this is a joke?

You think I don't know this is a fucking scam, bitch? Like that, and then she goes, what? Why are you talking to me like this? I wouldn't do no run-off scam on you. What are you talking about? I said, bitch, I saw crack heroin, been on the streets, been in jail for different, bitch, I know a motherfucking scam when I see one.

And then she goes, what are you talking about? I said, turn and look to your right on the floor. There's a man's shadow right there and he's standing behind a goddamn camera, bitch. And as she looks, she goes, oh, oh, and then you could see the guy's shadow, and his hair is falling, and I'm like, hang up, bitch. Hang up the mic.

Right? And I'm like, man, then I just start going, what bitch, you're wasting my goddamn time, three months of this shit, and you up here scamming? And she said, I'm so sorry, but you're a good man, and I should've never did this, you know what, I'm sorry, bye, and he clicked, hung up the goddamn phone. Damn.

Yeah, so, yeah, so when it comes to like meeting women on any social media now. That's a cautionary tale. Yes. Yeah, but luckily you didn't get scammed. People get scammed all the time. Yes. Or some people are looking to get scammed. Yes. You know, some guys go on those sugar sites, they know they're going to get scammed.

They know they're going to get scammed. And they do it anyway. And then some of these women, of how good-looking they are You know you got athletes and different rappers and different politicians rich men that just fly them out Then and do whatever they want them to do, you know So you have that aspect like it's just they is this just expected for some of these women because they think oh you gotta Know you gotta do like these. I'm doing that

Glad you didn't get caught up. Nah, nah, nah. You're too smart. Man, it would never happen. It's one of those things where it's just like for me, if I get caught up, it's just because I want to. Right, you're looking, yeah, right. That's what I mean.

Guys do look for it. To be scammed? Yeah, to get sunk, you know what I mean? Well, I was watching like. To get sunk on a woman. That happens a lot. Yeah. Cause sometimes you're like, whatever.

I was watching, oh, my great aunt, cause she watched all these murder mysteries. This is 102? Yeah, 102. She's 102. She's 102, about to be 103 in January. And her cognition is good?

Like everything she can, she's not... No. No, she's not. No, it's rough. Okay. It's rough. She has dementia, so it's rough. Okay. It's rough. She has dementia, so it's constant.

Does she know who you are? 100%. 100%. She knows who you are. Yeah, hers is like a very slow, like it's a slow breakdown. Like I don't know what it is about hers since she's been diagnosed way back in early 2014, 13 or whatever. She's still been great as far as memory.

Some of her memory is slipping, but not of who I am. She knows exactly who I am. Wow, my memory's bad now and I'm 40. Mine is too. I have a terrible memory, bro. Mine is exactly. I don't remember shit. Me and Ian was talking about that, Ian Edwards.

I was telling him, I said, man, man, I said, I don't know what's wrong, but I said, when I converse, I can't ever remember like certain vocabulary It's like I have to repeat the same type of words all that's it. God. I don't know what happened to me He said man, that's been happening to me too. He said they bothered me and What have I called him about something and I say you remember and he's like doc, you know, my memories just Yeah, bro Give me some conspiracy shit. What do you think? This is good? What's what's this coming from?

Let's get into conspiracy, because I know you love them. Conspiracy, yeah. The Bad Friends fans used to love it when you got into conspiracy shit. But the only thing I would talk about is the alien stuff. And that's not even conspiracy. I was just giving them the information of what-

That's just fact. Yeah, the facts. That's all I was doing. But don't you think people's memories are slipping or life feels a little bit different post-pandemic, years later, something's up. Something, man, or it's just that also, you know, like, you ever notice how now all of a sudden,

don't eat too much processed or ultra processed. So I'm wondering, and then you got microplastics and all of this stuff now. The microplastics is wild. Right, it's wild. So now there's this whole thing of, have all of these things we've accumulated in our bodies over the years because of bad science

is now having an effect on our neural synapses and everything in the way we think, in the way we act, in the way our physical bodies, we're breaking down because there's a lot of unfiltered pollution in your bloodstream, and it's in your different organs, and it's in my god. That sounds right to me. Yeah. I don't like that.

That scares the shit out of me, but that sounds right. I try to make sure. It's like now, I stop buying cases of water. You're right. You mean plastic bottles? Bottles, yeah. Right, because they sit in the sun and shit? Sit in the sun or it's just it's not that because what the microplastics actually come

from is from the manufacturing of the bottles and not being necessarily cleaned out enough or little bits and pieces. That's why I try to do glass. I like glass. Because glass can't leak. Right. So that glass is kind of a safe bet. Yeah, that was what's been spoken on, but how many places are selling big jugs of glasses of water? No, you can't, it's hard to find. It's expensive too, it's a ripoff. Right, but what I did do was I did a little research

on how can you lessen that drinking from other sources, right? So what I learned is the bigger plastic jugs and stuff like that, most of the time they don't have a lot of microplastics where to if you drink and consume different kinds of bottles. Individual bottle water, yeah.

Yeah, because there are bunches of them being made and there's a bunch of plastic flying around whereas even though that the jug, bigger jugs are being made by the case, but they're not as many as you would if you buy a bottle, a single case of water. That's what I understand. I like this.

You're like Wikipedia for me. Or you can always just, you're going to lose a lot of it during evaporation, but you can boil it. Yeah, but they say heating it up also helps the water. It kills germs, yeah. And it also melts the microplastics down. It kills it down to like almost 99%, but you who's got time to boil their But give me your great aunt you're sitting with her she's 102 she's 102

So she's You're saying that you were, see? See? This was an exercise to show you that you wouldn't remember. Microplastic, get the fuck out of here you fucking... In here we pour whiskey. This episode of Whiskey Ginger is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the place to build your own site. All-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online. Whether you're just starting out or managing a growing brand, Squarespace makes

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Ginger. I like gingers. But she's cognizant, her cognition you say is not that bad. If she remembers who you are at 102, that's wild. Is she your oldest living family member? Yep, I told her yesterday. I said, you broke the record. 102? Yeah, and I said, yeah, on both sides of my family, I don't have anybody that I know of that lived past 90. She's like the only one. Yeah 90s wild. Yes. You think you'll live long? I don't really care. You don't give a shit? No man. Cause when it's time to go you're good to go. I'm good to go. What if to go is tomorrow? It's fine.

You don't like that? No, not yet. Oh. I got some life left life left. I just look at it, it don't have to be like this bad. I don't have a wife, but you have a wife. Yeah. And then you may, and I still want to get married and have children too, right? Sure. But by me being single and living away, I'm free. So it's like, I'm free to go whenever time is, you know what I'm saying? I just look at it like Einstein's theory of

relativity and space-time and then I look at it from a biblical perspective because they both say Einstein believed in determinism meaning everything is right and done. And then the Bible says that God predestined everything and I lived in the comfortableness of that because I look at it as, oh my time to go is just what it is. I just hope there ain't no fucking tiger kill me. You know what I mean? Because you'd be like, fuck, will you see what I'm doing? Bring in the tiger.

Well, dude, I read today, they were saying quantum physics, according to quantum physics, death doesn't exist and may just be an illusion. Our current way of thinking goes on to assume that the world has an objective existence independent of the observer. However, numerous experiments have suggested the opposite. There was an article that came out just recently.

It's kind of fascinating that it was the illusion of death. The belief leads us to accept the concept of death primarily because we identify ourselves with our physical bodies. But biocentrism, a theory proposed by Dr. Robert Lanza, argues if we incorporate life and consciousness into the equation, many scientific puzzles can be explained, including why the universe appears fine-tuned for life. So it's kind of kind of a deep cut that perhaps death is just an illusion. Well, yeah, when you look at it, we really actually don't ever die. When you look at it from the fact that,

also what they say about us, that they think we're in a simulation, right? I mean, I believe, the simulation shit, I believe, 100%. When they think we're in a simulation, right? I mean, I believe the simulation shit I believe 100% about if you wanted to whether you believe or not, but just think of what they're being a creator They're being actually I believe in it. I believe it. I believe in Something I don't know what it is. I couldn't put a thumb on it, right, but something exists. Exactly. I don't know I don't think it's a guy whatever it is that created the the it's a guy. Whatever it is that created the space and time.

So all of it. The space time continuum? Yeah, but the continuum, the problem with the continuum is number one, it's having a lot of problems right now. You know, with the James Webb telescope now. I love you, bro. Seeing the end. You know the continuum has having a lot of problems.

It's continuum got me all fucked up. Yeah, it's fucking, it's got its issues with it. Well, because I think we're finally seeing all of our experiments come to light after all these years and it's really fucking with us. Yeah. You saw these, you know what happened with what's going on in space.

I know you're a space guy. Thought they'd been stuck up there or? They're stuck. Oh yeah. And now, SpaceX has signed a, or agreement with the government apparently that they'll go up there and they can get them in this in this second round, but it'll take them six months to get them. Hold up.

Did you see the new article on that? The spacesuits aren't compatible with the spaceships that SpaceX has. What? So they got to send them up. Well, they got to send them up new shit then, right? Yeah, they gotta do it a whole other way, cause I guess it's something to do with the way that the suits are designed versus the interior. Of SpaceX's right.

Yeah, it's like, oh my god. But it's still gonna take them six months, these astronauts. These astronauts are gonna be still stuck for six more months though. Whatever it takes I guess, even possibly longer. Do you even want to come back at that point? Yeah, I don't know. I might just say open the door. Let me go Well if because I think if you're up you've been up for that long and there was a chance you might not get back Open the hatch. Well in the vacuum you definitely go it's gonna be quick Like the Titanic, right?

Yeah, you just go like that. You think, oh, that's visible. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when they went to see the Titanic. You wouldn't even know you're gone. You go so fast, you don't even know. Yeah, it's quick. It happened beyond quick.

It's quicker than quick. It's quicker than you could process. I just don't even know. You're gone instantaneously. Wow. I'd rather that than a slow death or feeling it. That's what people say but there had to be a little bit of... No....hearing something. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, you heard something. Yeah, like, what the fuck is he doing?

Sorry, I don't mean to fuck you, but you know... No, it was a crazy journey in the first place. What were you doing down there? What were you doing down there? I wanna see the Titanic, too bad. It's deadly. Same thing the UFOs be doing down there, something. You think the UFOs are at the bottom of the ocean? Yeah, they say USOs. They call them USOs, under, unidentified or submerged objects.

You ever seen the video of another? No, you gotta send me this shit. Oh, shit, you're bullshitting. I haven't seen it, I don't know this. You didn't see the Navy when they showed it? I know there's creatures in the ocean that blow my fuckin' mind. I saw an ad yesterday for Pacific Life,

you know the insurance company with the whale that comes out of the water, Pacific Life? You've seen it, you've seen Pacific Life insurance. They have a big whale that jumps out of the water, that's their icon. Yeah, pushing out the water, fuckin' beautiful. See a whale, and then you go, okay, that's 100% an alien.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. This is a dinosaur alien. Shit, a squid,'s 100% an alien. It's a dinosaur alien. Shit, a squid and fucking land. And there's millions of them. I think they have no idea how many more are down there. I believe in all that shit. Well, yeah, I mean, you got 30,000 feet, right? You got tremendous PSI of water once you get through so much of a PSI that whales don't,

they only go a mile deep. They can't go that far. That's what's interesting about space and even about the concept of God, right? Is I was talking to somebody about that. I said, man, that's interesting because I was listening to Michio talk and about dimensions, right? And they are asking him what a dimension is.

And he said that a dimension is this. He said when he used to go to this Japanese pond up in San Francisco, he said there was these carp with their eyes on the side of their head that swim under these lily pads and it was a shallow pond. So he said the carp have no way of knowing that there is another layer above them. So their only existence is they see each other and they just move in this two-dimensional way. They just move back and forth and around each other. He said, what if I reached down and grabbed the carp and lifted out of the water? And then he said, now the carp has experienced

a new physical being, it's experiencing oxygen, a person breathing with no gills. So it's a whole nother physical realm for, he said, that's what we are. He says, it's as if somebody's looking down on us can reach down and just lift you out the fucking universe. I said, fuck God, it's real. And they remind me of Men in Black.

I even put it all in this little video I had made. I said, this shit is scary as fuck. I said, man, you shouldn't have said this shit. And then he was recently on News Nation. They've been covering a lot about UFOs now. And the guy asked him, he said, well then, he said, could the aliens be our God? He goes, wait, wait, wait, now, that's, you know, I don't call him a nerd, I like new meaty or what,

but he is a scientist. He's like, well, well, now that's two separate questions. He said, one is somebody coming here telling you that they're your gods, and he said, but the other one is the creator himself. He said, so that's two independent things. And I said, damn. So I'm over here like, I gotta go back to church, man.

I've whipped open my Bible like, what is it, Leviticus, Baal Shana? You know what I mean? So I just look at life as a, see, I forgot what we was talking about again. There's no wrong belief system. Whatever you, whatever thing you believe. Do you go to church here in LA?

What do you think, pedophiles ain't got a good belief system? No, I'm talking about the, I'm talking about if you believe in God. Oh, okay, okay. I don't think any God belief is wrong. I think whatever you believe in God, whichever version of it, whatever it is, I think any version of it that you believe in is fine. If you believe in something and it gives you hope or power or substance, if it gives you joy, if it gives you something for life, it doesn't bother. I couldn't care less. I look at God a lot different from... because I grew up Christian, right? Yeah. And Baptist, and I look at God totally different,

because I go to all kinds of different churches. Do you still go to church now? When I ain't been in a while. I've been, it's been about at least five, six months, or maybe even longer. It's been a long time. Why not? Because I've just been lazy,

and then I've been working at Amazon on Sundays, and I just kind of like stopped going, and you know, so gets in the way. I just kinda like stopped going and you know, so now I'm off, I'm like, I was singing that today. I was like, let's go to church today because before I go to the podcast, and then I was like, ah fuck. It's not gonna happen. It didn't happen.

So I just gotta get myself back in the middle. But I go to church for a different reason versus like everybody else. It's like, church for me is more of a gathering of people that's like-minded. That's all it is. It's like when we hang out, like right now we're comedians, you know, when we go, remember how we used to do at the Comedy Store afterwards? We would all go to eat a green mat or norms and sit and eat and kick it.

Same thing, just the same thing. So you just get gathering with the people and then you're just giving praise and thanks to the divine creator. So I have a whole different concept about God. My concept of God is similar to that of Einstein and what the Bible actually teaches versus says versus what a lot of preachers teach. It's two different. Sometimes you go to the churches or you listen to people like preachers talk about God and you're like, what God is he talking about?

Because that ain't... It's not the one I know. No. preachers talk about God, you're like, what God is he talking about? Because that ain't... It's not the one I know. No, because you can't talk about God and then say, God is good, God is good, God is good. And then when something evil happens, you go, well, that ain't God. And I go, what? Huh. What do you mean that ain't God? If God created all things time, the problem is you're trying to judge God and say God

is evil because these, if he's part of this, but God is both. So God doesn't have evil. He's just good because he controls it. That's what I mean by like to God, we would be assimilation. Because you imagine if, so if the space time continuum was correct, which we know for a fact as far as particle-wise, look at how you look. We made out of the same three elementary particles,

keep it basic, protons, neutrons, electrons, right? You got protons, neutrons, protons got two quarks up, one quark down, neutrons got two quarks down, one quark up, blah, blah, blah, right? So we're made out of those same elementary particles, subatomic particles, but yet somehow your arrangement of atoms make you look like you. There's a physical reasoning and a law that takes place for you to look like you and me to look like me. So when I look at everything with God, it would be, we would be as assimilation to him because he can just create.

And then you think of the time, and you think of all the civilizations and the different ones that passed us, the Aztecs and the Mayans and so on and so forth, all these different Mesopotamians, Babylonians and all these, every language that was spoken then, that same being would know that language. And then like we're talking about the whales, of course, and the killer whales killed a seal on the ice. You ever seen that shit? Yeah.

Fucking beautiful. Yeah. But the communication, right? And you have to look at God in that too. You go, what? So that means whoever this is that created all this, whether it be a God you believe in or the universe, it does have a consciousness to know the language of whales. And I said, it made me want to go to church a little bit, get a little prayer. You know what I mean? For me, because that's how I look at them. So I don't look at them like, I was watching Neil deGrasse Tyson talk. He's like, I don't believe there's a God because what I've seen a people terminated you'll kids about

uh... you a terminally look at all the people that the percentage of people as a little versus the percentage of people that's terminally ill couple of boys and he was like some of the last about his office about his art is a little like this size of our body can do that you're going to say the universe is beautiful as a physicist, then you would have to say God is beautiful.

It's preposterous. But there's this- You're saying it has to be evil with good. If everything was good, we wouldn't know it's good. Yeah, it's the yin and yang. Right, if there was no balance. Right, I understand. And death, we don't wanna become people who lack empathy.

But death comes to everybody, whatever form it is. Unfortunately, some people gotta go on waves, you're like, God damn, you know what I mean? It's like, fuck, did he just get hit? Hit by a truck? Yes! It's painful to see, and we empathize, and some of us share tears for the relatives

that we lose in certain, you know, painful ways. Sure. However, God is still good. God is. Percentage wise, when I look at the mathematics of the universe, I'm like, because even if the earth was destroyed right now, there's other life forms and other planets and social systems that still exist. Unless he destroyed it, unless there is a time, like the Big Rip or something like that,

where it's getting to a point, where it gets to a point where the whole universe just becomes unstable. And it needs to fix itself. Or whatever. Right. And it just annihilates. What you're really saying, what you're genuinely saying, what I hear, Doc, is that all lives matter is what you're trying to say.

Hell yeah. From the fishes all the way up to whatever. But your manner of death, and so I look at that. I look at like, when people get, when like people are like, oh you shouldn't eat animals and kill animals and blah blah blah, like they do it to each other. It's all a cycle.

Yeah, but for some reason, animals aren't sentient beings, right? They're just these objects that people look at. But to me, animals are just like us. And even plants, if you really wanna get into it, but you won't look at that, me animals are just like us and even plants if you really want to get into it like but you you won't look at That because wait a minute. I I eat carrots right every time I like bite into an apple and that juice come out that might be a tear I can't believe you don't smoke weed smoke weed. I'm shocked. Are you still on your wine by the way? Oh all the time. You're on the vino. Yeah yeah all the time. Meaning two cups of glasses a day. Two a day. Well I

try to but late at night. It's expensive to drink wine. Wine is expensive. Yeah no so here's the thing. Nighttime, wine for some reason, it keeps me up. And then I did some research on that and I learned what alcohol does to some people. Because no matter what, if I drink wine later than 7, 8 in the evening, I'll go to bed at night every single time. Two hours on walk. So I did some research on it and come to find out the alcohol effects of the brain and the neurological patterns and stuff like that. It keeps you more engaged, right?

It keeps me more engaged. So I said, damn, man. So I started drinking wine. Like I'll have wine now after lunch, right? So you have two glasses after lunch. Yeah, I'll have two glasses after lunch or I'll have it right around three or four and then I won't try to drink no more wine at all.

Or you know, at night. Have you ever slipped, you slipped and had a whole bottle? When my mama passed away I was. Yeah. Then you had a couple bottles. Not a couple, because I get sick. Like I'm, me and my mother we have allergies to alcohol, that's why I can't drink.

Whiskey and all that. Yeah, I get sick as hell. Like, not even hangover sick. It's like my stomach and sometimes my throat. But wine doesn't do it to you. Wine is the only thing that's just like. You good. But it's gotta be white wine, right?

No, Pinot Noir, both. Oh, you can have both. I just drink the Pinot Noir because of the Reservatol and the, forgetting the words. Try it. Flavins, F-V-inoids? Is that what it is? It's the same thing. I just guessed. Yeah, yeah. So, but because of that, it has more, but there's some research saying that

white wine has equally, but nah, I think that the coloring in itself, it has a little bit more. You say dark is always better than white. Yeah, and I don't think- And that's a standard life rule for you. Dark is always better than white. Isn't that true? People, wine, meat, dark is always better than white.

No, because I'm talking about- And that's a principle that you live by. You're calling me racist, they know that. I mean, the real you's gotta come out. You gotta come out sometimes. All right, I wanna know, people wanna know. You don't have to say it. You're never gonna come back to Bad Friends.

Yeah. You're never coming back. Not as a- Not as a person on the show. Uh-uh, cause here's what y'all didn't know. Yeah. And I think I might've told you this on the phone, but I was so hot, angry at the time.

Yeah, you were hot. I had already planned on not. When we did the first episode, I didn't want to come back. You didn't want to come back after the first episode? Yeah. Why is that? Because I didn't like. See, I know how you are,

even though I didn't know you, know you like that. Based on your movement at the store and how you engage with people. But I fucking knew how Bobby was. Fucking knew. And I said, God damn it. I said, something going on with him. Let me see what's going on.

He said, no, you're gonna be on the Rock Guys. I said, I'm gonna be on the Rock Guys. All right. Okay. So when I got there, then I seen be on the Rock. I said, I'm gonna be on the Rock. All right. Okay. So when I got there, then I seen his little ping-pong match because you just follow whatever Bobby was doing and y'all just was, and I said, what the fuck?

Because I can see even in yourself, sometimes you was like, what the fuck is he? And then it was like, what is this? A lot of the show is what the fuck is Bobby doing, yeah. So remember after a few episodes, I said, oh, I'm the Cole or the Rose from Golden Girls. Right. Oh, I'm that guy.

Cole's great, by the way. Yeah. One of the best characters on Martin. You gotta be, if, like, you know what drives me crazy when I, when, when, it don't matter what it is. And I'm Shanaynay, by the way, for people that are listening for references for Martin. You're Cole, I'm Shanaynay.

You said it. I can see that. And Bobby is a... You go, Carol. I ain't good at it. And Bobby is a... What's the dude upstairs? Oh, bro-man.

Bro-man, yeah. Yeah, full-floor, yeah, exactly. Full-floor, bro-man, bro-man. Bro-man, fifth floor. Yeah. Hilarious. But no, so you checked out. You were like, I don't wanna do it anymore.

Yeah, so then, after what happened was, other fellow comedians, family. No, no, no, stay on there and do what you, just get used to, you ain't even tried it. So that was something that my mother taught me with the comedy store, because I didn't wanna work at the comedy store. Oh, okay, you know what, I'll do that.

Let me try to figure out where my place. So once I started looking, but I started really paying attention to Bob, I said, okay, this is what this guy wants, okay. So I said, but I'm not gonna continue to be that guy. So my aunt called me one time, she was like, my mother's sister, she's like, what? I don't like him, blah, blah, blah, blah,

just sit down, easy, easy, easy. And she said, but you know what? I talked to your cousin, and he told me how you are, and I didn't know that part about you and I thought you was just letting this in. I said, nah, I said I wasn't playing with it. And I called him and I said, hey, what's up? He said, what?

You told your mom? He said, yeah, he said, yeah, I told her you was just gonna be doing this for so long and then you're gonna start amping it up. So I remember towards the end before I left, Bobby was like, hey man, what's gotten into you? I was swinging it and I was like, it's coming, you fucking get ready.

So I was like, but at the same time, I was watching Bob and monitoring Bob from day one. So I was like, I ain't. You heightened awareness. Yeah, yeah, I said, I already know, because I already know how he was from the store and from past events with me and him. And I said, okay, yeah, now I'm out to watch Bob.

He a little bit too, and he's too wild. Too wild, yeah. For me, for what I like, like, when we do the SOS, sometimes Carlos, he goes in, right? He gets wild, yeah. But he's not disrespectful. He's just trying to find the funny. Sure.

So the problem with podcasting that, and this is why I don't like podcasting, I hate it. I just had fun with Carlos and him. I said, well, you know how y'all doing this movie? Let me try this thing and see what it is. This all was just like, I like Pete and all of them. And I like all of y'all. You and Bob, goofy ass.

Until that shit popped off, oh, you fucking motherfucker. I was like, you're done. I said, you just expedited the goddamn process. That shit just gone now. He put it in fast mode. Fast mode. So, hold on a second.

Come on. No, you're saying you were doing all the SOS stuff and you did all that, but you knew that the end was coming. Yes, and so for me, with Bad Friends, now I would have been around a little bit longer, but my end goal was always just to go, okay, that's enough, man. Y'all, I did what I needed to do. Whether the fans, the fans, they gonna be what they be.

Sure. And- You still see it? You still see fans from it? All the time. And people say, yeah. That's all they do. That's all.

Where is he coming from? But I don't pay it... Here's the thing about social media. And this is for any of the platforms. I don't, you ever see something funny, like a video? And then you just wanna see who's having fun in the comments? And then you get there and then there's so many people not having fun.

You're like, what are you? This is what I'm talking about. Yeah, it gets real negative and shitty. It's real negative. So what I learned is this. I was telling Carlos and him, I said, I don't, when I go and if I look at the comments on whether it was Bad Friends or SOS,

I just only see gays who's having fun or enjoying it. Everything else, nah, I can't. Because it's the same reason why I don't really like interacting with people that comment on my Instagram. Because name what fortified mental illnesses. Just name them. Mental illnesses? Yeah. A sociopath, schizophrenic, bipolar. What are you saying? All these people are in the comments? Let's say autism. Let's just say those. Let's just take those. Okay, so you look at those, and now you gotta ask yourself. All the people, whether good or bad, that's commenting on your page, which one of them have that problem?

You think all of them have something? It's not all of them. It's just you don't know who. Sure. And you don't know who's going through a depression. And who's capable of what kind of chaos? It's not even about the chaos. It's just you don't know who you're dealing with period sure So you can't take any other series because the same person that's saying positive things to you could have a shrine built to you at The house with your fucking head with our hamster blood a heart drawing hamster blood around your head going

Shout out to Ron. that's my buddy Ron. Ron has an effigy for me, burning in perpetuity. Shout out to Ron, thank you Ron, you know I love you. Don't do anything bad. Yeah. No, you're right. The same people that love you hate you and the same people that hate you love you.

So it's a delicate line. It's a delicate line, so if you engage with them too much, that's being positive to you, you may be encouraging some kind of bad stalker behavior coming So you you you really have to understand that this is just a media platform for me is just work And I don't take it. No serious than that. I like connecting with the fans. I do believe there's a lot more good than bad in my opinion however Yeah, it all gets convoluted as time goes

on, right? Like people like to be negative, it's easier to be negative, you know? Well, it's more fun, I should say, to be negative because it gets people in a mood. It's why critics became, you know, it's why the world of criticism took so much weight. People like to hear someone go, this thing sucks, because then they go, tell me why it sucks. So I can also try to hunt for why it sucks. But you know, again, back to your yin and yang theory of the universe, there has to be death for there to be life.

Well, like I said, I don't, like I said, I engage, but I don't engage that much. Well, and especially not, you're not engaging with women that are trying to take your money. Yeah, yeah. Listen up, women out there, stop trying to take Doc's money. That's enough got the shit out cut that shit So what do you so now that you're you're gonna stay here and you're not gonna go to New York You're gonna stay in LA. Mm-hmm. You have any you ever have plans to do tour

Would you ever want to tour and run the country? You know the improv? Was his name Cyrus he gave me a headline again. And he was like, oh, we're gonna do more business. So I thought from that point on, he was going to continue. To book you. Get booked me so that I can grow my hour and grow as a standup more as far as reaching people.

Because it was my first time ever doing an hour. So it was rough, but it was still good. So I was like, okay. And it was surprising, I had like 70 something people. It's great. Oh cool, yeah, but just that fucking very impromptu. So what? So he mastered, but I enjoyed that that whole,

there was more than that, cause it was like the whole, all the tables was filled up front, the long tables. And then I had a few in the booths that was my family, then all the other booths was regular people. So it was like like oh, okay This is cool. I mean a ticket bought is a ticket bought right matter how many there are right? That's nice to people I mean people are going but what you you don't feel like going back out though

It's not for you. Yeah, and I do have some other things in line I want to talk about them you know till they fucking pop you know till they come out Well, you can't even give me a preview of what's going on with you yeah, god damn cuz I don't like to do that until it actually happens cuz and pop, you know, until they come out. Well, you can't even give me a preview of what's going on with you? God damn, Doc. Because I don't like to do that until it actually happens, because it's been time while I've done it

and nothing happened, so I said, let me make sure. But that's the story of this business, right? I think people do want to know that, they do need to know that. A lot of things happen and they don't happen at all. Yeah. A lot of things are on, there's a lot of movement

and then things die, or they just cease, or somebody new comes into a company and then changes, they're like we don't want to do that anymore That happens all the time right well. I could tell you I'll give you this much It's a little project with Kevin Hart something small something for me. It was cool. Too small perhaps You're gonna do you're gonna do twins, but you'll both be Danny DeVito? Is that what it is? That'd be great. I hope that works out.

I hope so. Look, I miss you. I appreciate you. I just wanted to jam with you for a minute and catch up and see what was happening. And also, you know, I know you'll never come back, but you'll always have a place on Bad Friends. Well, I did tell... Carlos? Who? Andres?

Carlos. Andres? Yeah, I told him that to talk to the fans directly themselves so they can get kind of an understanding of what happened between all three of us, right? Right. Because it ain't got nothing to do with you. With you. So you and I know.

Yeah, yeah. So it's like, I said, I'll go back and do that. Do one episode, but. So you'll come back and do one Bad Friends maybe. Yeah, yeah, for that reason. Yeah. For the fans to just understand like it's not, cause they don't, they think like,

there's no communication at all as far as, like I just, like there's this anger between all of us that we're not. No, that's not true. Yeah, yeah, it's just that, here's the thing. I mean, you and I talk, but I don't know if you talk to anybody else. Well, we've text, but I've never, here's the thing, me and Bob never talk like that.

That's the thing. So there's this, that's the fallacy as a podcast. It's as if people can't grasp the fact that it don't matter what platform it is, it's edited. They gave you the full cut anywhere, any of them, whether it's, I don't know, Bill Maher, if you guys want, or whoever. It's edited down so that it can be entertaining for you.

If you got the full, then you'll be like, man, shit, man, why they didn't? So it's not 100% genuine in that aspect. Well, you're not gonna see everything. No, that's impossible. Right, so you take that, and then you take the fact that you don't know the people that you really listening to. Yeah, sure.

I'm not. Yeah. I don't know if you and your wife really at home arguing and getting into it with each other. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know if you and your wife are really at home arguing and getting into it with each other. You understand what I'm saying? So there's this aspect they have to understand that it's just entertainment. Right, there's two separate versions, right.

There's a piece of us that is always real for the fans, but then there's only so much you can give to people. You also don't want to give everything, because that's hard. Sometimes you're like, I need my own world to to exist you can't live completely in the space it would be detrimental to your health your mental health you'd have a breakdown if you lived everything on the internet there's guys that do I mean there's people that do and kudos to them well no it looks scary and we well I expect you to come back at some point then to say goodbye, a good send off.

We'll get you a nice gift. I'll get you a fuckin' jug of Carlo Rossi. We'll give you that bullshit. But I appreciate you, Doc. And I hope people do keep showing up to the shows. If you keep touring in Southern California, people gotta keep popping up. You know I'll keep touring in Southern California people got to keep popping up You know I'll promote anything for you for the rest of time

We end the episode the same way look in that camera, and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode It can be quick it could be long move in here we Whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You are that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginges are beautiful. You owe me five dollars for the whiskey and seventy-five dollars for the horse.

Ginges are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.