Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Dr. Drew

Episode Date: December 3, 2021

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What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. Man, we got a good one for you today. Dr. Drew is back. My man, I love this dude. He is the best. Super smart. We get into the droves of history of America, as well as the dancing C-word that we're not allowed to mention. That sickness that's moving around. Dr. Omicmaracran, or whatever it is. I don't even know what the new term is. But we had a great time. Love this dude. He the best.

Also, I'm on tour. Come on, man. Let's go. Come see me this weekend. I'm in San Diego. It's totally sold out, I think. We're really close to selling out. Maybe single seats are left.

But then next weekend, I'm going to be in Florida. Florida. I haven't been in a long time. I'm back, finally. I'm at the Dania Improv, which is near Fort Lauderdale. It's right there. Same place. Come see me.

Then at the end of the year, I'm in Phoenix, Arizona for Lauderdale. It's right there. Same place. Come see me. Then at the end of the year, I'm in Phoenix, Arizona for New Year's Eve. I can't wait. We're lighting fireworks off inside. We might sacrifice somebody. Who knows what we're going to do. New Year's Eve in Phoenix, come see me. And then in the new year, you know I have so many dates on the books. We got Atlanta, DC, Albany, Foxwoods, Chicago, theater, February 5th, Seattle, Portland, Vancouver just got announced. We're all over the place. We're moving, baby. Go to andrewsantino.com for those tickets. andrewsantino.com

for tickets. Do not buy them somewhere else because people say, oh, we got ripped off on this other site. Well, go to my website. That takes you directly where you need to go. andrewsantino.com for the tickets. Enough rambling from me. Let's go to the episode. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard.

Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth.

I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again today. It's the return of Dr. Drew. Drew! It's such a privilege to be here. I've missed you so much. I really have missed you. I've missed you a lot, I know. We shared a lot through the COVID mess.

We did. It's been a long time. It's been a while. I got sick. You got sick. You got sick twice? No, no, no. What? It's funny. i got sick you got sick uh we got you got sick twice no no no i know i well it's funny i got sick with covid once yeah and then i got sick but it wasn't covid the

second time good okay i just remember you getting sick a second time i'm like oh crap i thought it was covid and every every time i meet somebody who's had code for a second time it like shakes me to my core because i don't know about you but i don't want that thing again i don't want it again no i don't want it again um couple things uh a't want it. I don't want it again. Couple things. A, this is all new territory to me. Last time I was on your podcast, we were at your house. We were at the house. Yeah. Yeah. So this is brand new.

Good job. Congratulations. I did that strategically with you. I was thinking maybe I could get you to have a couple of drinks and sleep over. That was, most people do it here. Oh. You specifically, I put at my house. So I could sleep over.

Oh. You didn't. I got permission from your wife. I felt like you were making a pass at me, but I thought it was a jest. No, no, no. It was dead serious. So the whiskey, I like messing around with whiskeys. Not in the me, but I thought it was a jest. No, no, no. It was dead serious. So the whiskey, I like messing around with whiskeys. Not in the middle of the day.

Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know. But when I sat down and saw this incredible selection, I thought, well, no wonder Bobby's struggling with sobriety. I hide this from him. He doesn't get to see this? No, he doesn't touch or see this.

Okay, okay. You don't have to hide it from him, but he's hiding from me, just so you know this. He hasn't talked to you at all? I was on the podcast with his wife probably two years ago. Yeah. And I could tell he was going to have a relapse. And I told him. I told him what to do.

He didn't do it, and he had a relapse. And I said, let me help you, and he just vanished from my life. So he's not texted you or anything? I've had zero contact in spite of reaching out through all channels. Well, let me help you. And he just vanished from my life. So he's not texted you or anything. I've had zero contact in spite of reaching out through all channels. Well, let me tell you something. You're the only channel I haven't tried yet. Well, here, this is the thing.

He'll never answer because it's way too early. It's only 1148. But I'm going to just yell at him. If he does answer, let's just yell at him real fast. All right. Because you know he sleeps until 3, 2 or 3. We have to shoot our show at 4 p.m. Because that's the only time that we can get him to get up.

It's too late in the night. It's video games. Oh, no. He plays video games all night long. Or I think he just watches TV and sits in stews and watches movies. Yeah, he's not going to answer right now. All right. Well, anyway, send the word out.

I like to chat with you. I'm going to. Because he had some work to do. Yeah. He does. Well, let me tell you this. He's doing okay Well, anyway, send the word out. I like to chat with Arian. I'm going to. Because he had some work to do. Yeah. And. He does. Well, let me tell you this. He's doing okay now though, right?

He is. No, he's. Yeah, he is doing great. So good. Yeah. Although he's, I think what's, what's interesting about what happened in our business last time that we were speaking about, you know, the COVID revelations of what's going to happen to the entertainment industry.

Yes. There was this weird worry when we started our show that things were going to go away or dissipate a little bit. Like, you know, what's going to happen to TV and film and jobs and all that stuff? Oh, yeah. But especially for comedians, because how do we get back out on the road again?

He's gotten the opposite. He's gotten five, six jobs. I mean, he's like- Everybody I know is, I'm watching you on Dave and loving it. I love that show. Thank you. Did I gush at you about how great a comedic actor you are?

It was very nice, yes. I still, every time I watch, I go, I hope he understands. I hope the world understands because you should be just in everything as far as I'm concerned. Until they kick me out because they hear me say something wrong on this show. But until then, we're good. Wait, I want to investigate you real fast. Yeah. When you were sick, we spoke a bunch when you were sick sick i was checking in with you to see how you were you publicly were talking about how

you were feeling in the process you were going through yes are you 100 now virtually essentially 100 i i when did i last talk to you i was sort of like foggy and tweak at that point yeah well you were saying that like you were okay you were getting back to doing the show was back regular yeah you were still feeling a little of those after effects. Yeah. So my story is educational for people, I think. Yeah. And that's why I was very pushing, much pushing it out there.

A, I was an early sort of patient for monoclonal antibodies and it helped me so much and so obviously, and so did steroids. Right. And so I was out there saying, look, the government has bottled these things. Anybody can get access to it. It's free. Go get it. Works. It works like crazy.

And now we know it works and we've got sort of three different versions of it out there. Sure. Still people are in my profession, not as likely to prescribe it as they should. I mean, it should just be just routine these days, but it sort of isn't, but okay. So there's that.

Do you know why? Lack of knowledge, lack of understanding, lack of experience. There's not enough research about. No, they literally, literally everyone is so afraid to do anything in my profession that they literally are just afraid to do treatment early in COVID. Yeah. They're just scared of it.

So how many people were sent home and told to come back when they desaturate, which is the weirdest advice. I mean, think about it. Yeah. A doctor going, yeah, yeah, you're not sick enough. Like go home and get sicker and then we'll help you. It's like, that's ridiculous. That's bizarre.

So anyway, so I went through all that and I was public about that. And then afterwards I had a long hauler syndrome. You had some of that too, right? A little bit, but you know what? It kind of went away. Well, so mine was pretty bad. The fatigue was like startling. And I took a medicine called fluvoxamine, which is now being advocated for earlier use in COVID.

Again, another thing doctors are afraid of, but it works. Worked for me. Like I had really bad ringing in my ears. That was one of my right ears, one of my prominent symptoms. When it first developed, like day two of COVID, it was like a buzzing, like a machine in my ear was the weirdest thing. And so it was persistent. And when I took the fluvoxamine, about 30 minutes after I took it, it kind of went away. What?

I was like, whoa. What is that usually used for, fluvoxamine? It's an antidepressant. It's used for obsessive compulsive disorder. It's sort of close to Prozac, but it has this epiphenomenon is that it treats something called the Sigma-1 system, which is an anti-inflammatory system in the brain. So it seems to decrease inflammation in the brain. So for me, it worked like crazy. My fatigue resolved in about a week and that was that. Then I was left with

fogginess and it was a very strange fogginess and I couldn't quite put my finger on what was wrong, but I knew something was wrong. And I thought, maybe I should go back to the piano or something. We were going to go to Greece later in the summer, early in the summer. And I thought, I'm going to learn Greek and see if that helps with my fogginess. Fogginess went away in a week. So active mind is what- Active, well, language particularly. I think language, music, it felt like that kind

of thing. Like that part of my brain was not right. And I've stayed with language ever since. So do you speak Greek now? It was sort of a parlor trick. You know, I learned how to say I and we and then verbs and then I want to do this, or I'd like to do, those kinds of easy phrases.

Give me, say I want to eat. But, Yanafou. Yanafou. Yeah. It's great. Yeah, yeah. And, when I would go to Greece, when we went there,

I would start using the language a little bit. I've lost some of it. I've switched back over to French, which is my, really my second language. Jesus Christ. But listen, Jesus Christ. I can't even speak English that good. But when I would start speaking, every person would stop me and go, oh, my God, your accent.

I didn't pay any attention to accent. So you heard of people getting hit in the head and waking up with a weird accent or something? This had something like that going on. Really? Because the language was easier. Accents are easier. And it came with a certain amount of delight. I have never experienced learning languages.

I always found learning languages drudgery. Right. Very weird. Very weird stuff. So you feel like maybe the COVID gave you an advantage on language? A superpower. A weird superpower. That's nuts.

I mean, head injuries. From the beginning, I said it felt like getting hit in the head with a baseball bat. That's really what it felt like. Right. And I've heard, I've seen and heard of very weird things happening. Look at, well, here's one of the things I've been left with is I will block when I'm talking. All of a sudden, I'll just lose my train of thought completely. And then it will come back exactly two minutes later.

It's very, very weird. But Sour Shoes on Stern Show. Yeah. All those stuff he does. Yeah. He got hit in the head with a baseball bat. That's why he's- And then he lived in his car for three weeks

after that, had trouble functioning, came home from Pepperdine, and then developed all this weird- He can do every accent or every impression under the sun. I mean, well, what are they- There's that- I talked to Gary a couple of times about it and he said, yeah, that's the way his mom described it that's when it occurred what is what

and i've watched a documentary about that there was a thing called you know steve carell did a movie about it actually uh marwin call welcome to marwin call okay um the story was kind of brilliant i remember watching the documentary then when they made the film i was like but it was about basically this guy who was attacked and he was beaten like mercilessly by these men um just out of nowhere it wasn't provoked it wasn't like a provoked thing and they beat this poor kid up and he had such head head trauma um he could he could paint and do all these amazing like his art his art meter was through the roof and he designed these little towns and these like perfect to scale towns of World War II.

It's all that stuff. It was remarkable. But prior to that, he had zero interest in any of that. Wow. But it was all the trauma that triggered and opened up this. Or whatever it did. So what Drew is saying basically

is we all need to get into head injuries so we can open up a new source of our brain. Yeah. If you want to learn a language, get a bat out and just bash yourself. Step into traffic if you're looking to learn a new language. I want to learn a new language. Maybe I should.

Well, you had COVID. Maybe you missed your window. Yeah. But back to Mr. Bobby Lee. Yeah. Yeah. I sit from afar and watch and think, why isn't that guy calling me? I like him so much.

We're such good friends and he's afraid of me? Or what do you think it is? I think what happens- Because I was going to call him out on his recovery and he didn't want to do friends and he's afraid of me or what do you think it is? I think what happens- Because I was going to call him out on his recovery and he didn't want to do it or something? Partially.

Yeah. Probably is what it is. And then also I think the problem with- Just try to help. Someone like Bob is when things get too much, like we get overwhelmed with stuff.

Yeah. In our business, it's like this- Feast or famine. I think when it's feast, he gets behind. You ever seen this meme of Homer Simpson falling into a

bush he just like falls away no yes that's what it feels like and bob does it i do it too sometimes he does it bad where he just falls away into the bush like leave me alone i don't want to talk he does it to me if we our work schedules are crazy and we have to shoot and i'm shooting this show and we shoot bad friends and we've got to do five a week or something like that and we're all moving around and i'm in new york and he's in new york he gets radio silent until we're the day we're shooting and then the hour before it's like i'll see you there and i just think that's his way to cope with just overwhelm pressure all right i get it what's going on with you now what are you doing well i mean i'm on tour i'm in the middle of touring which has been i gotta tell you 50

percent of it has been amazing in terms of like getting physically on stage again. Yeah. But then the other side of like, I'm doing theaters and I think there's still this weird, some people don't want to go just because they don't want to go. Yeah.

Because they're not wanting to be out near people. Because of COVID. Yeah. I'm experiencing the opposite. People are dying to be out with each other. Well, yes, but also we have to show vax cards at our shows and I don't know if everyone is vaccinated.

And they buy tickets and then like, you i talked to one of the this one woman in grand rapids says you've had the best percentage turnout of tickets bought and people show up and i was like really because we sold out the show and she was like yeah man we usually get 78 to 82 of people actually show up not interesting yeah i think it's also because people buy the tickets early on. They either forget about it, and then COVID, their money just sat in the Ticketmaster Bank, or they're like, I don't want to go now. Right. And they just don't give a shit and they forget about it.

So enough time has gone by. They feel differently. Well, I was at the Chappelle Segura Rogan Show in the arena. How was that? It was spectacular. Where was that, by the way? It was spectacular. Where was that by the way? It was at the, what's called the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans, which is like a staple

center or whatever we're calling it. Crypto.com. Crypto center. Yeah. Unreal. Yeah. And people mostly on their feet the whole time. Wow.

Not a mask anywhere. Right. Not a case of COVID emerging from it. Sure. And they all killed and it was just a delight. It was just so, people were so appreciative of people coming out and doing comedy. Yeah. And being in a large crowd.

Yeah. And being a community together. I mean, it was really a glorious experience, I thought. Any protesting? Nothing. No. Oh, on Chappelle? Yeah.

I didn't see anything. That's funny. I didn't see anything. And I told him, said dude Please just don't I think it affects It hurts his feelings More than you I mean it's hard

We're all sensitive little girls It's hard I am a sensitive little tiny girl I don't want someone to bully me The boys are being mean I don't like it We don't You know what's so funny

Is everyone that's a performer Or an entertainer Whether we want to Admit it or not You do You do put your feelings Up there sometimes Sometimes Most of the time It can roll off your back But sometimes it does affect to admit it or not you do you do put your feelings up there sometimes sometimes most of the time it can roll off your back but sometimes it does affect you and it only

affects you when um when you care when you're like i really care i want you to like this product and you and you really have an issue with it yeah and that's when i think we start to get emotionally tied to it and we put our emotions in front of the the the actual product because you're like i really did care i thought you really would appreciate this yes and you're criticizing it i think that's the zone that dave is feeling i talked to him a little bit about it and and i don't mean to speak on his behalf but my sense was that he was like i told them to listen just listen listen to my argument sure and then you can you can agree or disagree with my conclusion yeah but i'm i'm using these things that are provocative and i told you throughout the show we're going

hard so i can make a point and then they'd go ahead and fall back and do the easy thing of attacking trigger words anytime these little things pop up you know it just becomes an easy way to look at just the you know who does this the worst too is like any news source cnn or fox or all these guys they do the same thing where they really are heavy on these tiny little trigger words over the course of a narrative they kind of pick out exactly what's going to serve and talk about gun across state lines to get gun across state lines right trigger trigger trigger so when they do that all the time pun intended in that in that regard uh when they do that all the time with these trigger words it kind of um it loses sight completely of what it may have been or the intention and it

diminishes what can actually be sort of uh or what needs to be addressed in the reality of what that word represents totally to me the word white supremacy has been completely miscarried because because i i i understand you why I understand what it is? And it took a lot to get me there. Well, you were in the group for a long time. Well, it was that. You just got out. It was that.

I grew my hair out and everything. But that's the point, that we're not talking about skinheads. Right. We're talking about a point of view. And it was actually the words of Frederick Douglass that helped me understand what this is. If you read his speeches, which are just spectacular, you'll get it. You'll get it but give me something that he would say he what broke me through to me he was asked to speak

at a convocation or you know sort of a uh what do you call when you establish this monument uh it was the uh ceremonial whatever he was the speaker there at this thing and they were unveiling or whatever. And it's the, the freeing, what's the, oh my God, my brain. This is the COVID. This is COVID. Now it's going to come back. Yeah. So it is, again, an Abraham Lincoln Memorial of,

of commemorating the, which was the, this is going to seem like a white supremacist, which is, which is the one that freed the slaves. 14th Amendment and 15th. Third. Anyway, it 15th anyway is that amendment see that's that's white supremacy that we don't know that well i'm stupid no no no there's a big difference between being racist and stupid but that's it's a good example of white supremacy right it's not important enough i think it's 14th i think it's 15th was the voting rights and uh and uh and in there he went uh okay i'll talk i'll talk but you're not gonna like it and And I said, okay. So he gets up and he goes, he was my friend. He was a racist. I brought him around. He's not a racist. He's a white supremacist. And I went, and I went, what? Abraham Lincoln? And then he goes on to describe what he means by that, which is that he never saw the world through my eyes, Frederick Douglass or the slave's eye or the freed slave, he still was representing the union and the white man's

union and the Eurocentric point of view. And he could never get out of his way with that. And I thought, oh yes, he's right. That's absolutely true. And guilty. Yeah. I'm something I could do better at. And I thought we should have those conversations,

not condemn everybody all the time. Condemnation is a lot easier because it's easier to like point a finger and, and then you get to, you know, you get to go, look, look, look, look at that thing. And the other thing that gets me on the other side, we're going to get ourselves in trouble today. I can feel it. So is, you know, my family was escaping the Ukrainian genocide. Wow.

And people don't even know they had one. Right. And then, then there's, and our friends who, I was with dinner with somebody last night who was a Christian Iraqi who was escaping a Christian genocide by the Iraqis. Wow. And there are horrible, horrible, horrible things that have gone on in history that are not necessarily race-based, but are equally as horrible as the things we've done with race-based stuff. And we have to pay attention to the fact that we all came to this country. Yeah. Because there was an idea here

that we all could rally around and we're sort of losing track of that idea. Well, I mean, I just ran out of potatoes. That was our biggest problem. We just- That was a big deal. It was, but that's not that big. No one was trying to kill us.

Here's the big problem. There was no potatoes. There was no booze. I know. Why do you think I keep this so on display? I understand. For Irish, no, I mean- This is my ancestors.

Full respect. I'm Irish and I'm Sicilian. display? For Irish, nope. I mean. This is my ancestors. Full respect. I'm Irish and I'm Sicilian. So two of the, I'm the bottom feeders. You ever seen signs that say Irish need not apply? Have you ever seen those signs? I understand. Italians had it too.

Well, but the Italians, this is the other thing I learned when I went. The way they feel about the Sicilians is very strange. I didn't know that they've got beef. It's almost like how when someone thinks about California, they don't know that Northern California doesn't like Southern California. I know. You're like, you're just California. Oh, no, no.

No, no, no. They hate us. Yeah. That was how I felt about Sicily was a lot of the Italians would mock it or make fun of it

and I didn't know that was a cultural thing. You're like, no, those are, to them, those are like yucky rat people down there. Yeah.

I had no idea. That's why all the mobs developed and stuff. They were struggling down there. And then we got payback, didn't we? Yeah. And remember, Garibaldi, wasn't that his name? When he unified Italy, that was an unnatural,

those were a bunch of different countries that he kind of jammed together. Yeah. No, we all come from something a little bit tragic. I just don't think we want to, nobody wants to have the conversation. It's a very profound statement. We all come from something a little bit tragic.

Or a lot tragic. And you learn that, I guess, as you get older as well, when I learn people's, look, I try to talk to fans as much as i can and engage and the one thing i learn across the board everyone has a story and as cliche as it sounds really is true almost no one i've ever met has nothing to say i wanted to do tvs i do want to do a tv rally show just called everyone's got one everyone just you just walk walk to mcdonald's ago what's your story give it to me yeah it is wild great show isn't it well it's true because it's true it's true the amount of people i meet that have something to say and even if they're mine they're like my life's not that important

or no there's something rich inside of that that's why i like doing you know mental health work do you hear these experiences and it's not just the stories. To me, it's the content of the emotions. All right, well, give me some mental health help right now. Okay, all right. How come in the middle of the night when I'm just about to go to sleep, I remember things from my childhood or my past out of nowhere? Stuff will just pop into my head. Yeah.

Scenes, scenario. Like the other night, vividly I remembered when we used to egg houses on Halloween, we'd go and I remember walking through this neighborhood. It was pouring rain. It was so windy. And I had a starter jacket on and I had my hoodie up. And normally I don't remember stuff like this. Where are you? Where? Back in Chicago. Chicago. But I remember vividly having an egg in my hand and like looking down and these kids were by this frozen lake and we were laughing and I was so nervous you know when you're so nervous that your body's vibrating a little bit yes yes because i thought this house we're gonna egg it was bad idea i knew it was a bad idea i was like this is

a really wealthy rich house they're gonna catch us and we did in a window got broken because i think someone threw a rock instead of an egg oh but i remember the scene flashed in my head for no reason i don't know why it wasn't traumatic it was just kind of like. You're a bad person, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've confirmed that. Well, of course, when early memories start flooding your present moment, it's a sign of dementia too. And so it could be dementia coming. Shit, am I getting older?

But it really, what it is, is that when you sleep, the reason we have dreams is we have a de-repression. Things just let go and just associations start coming. And naturally stuff that have sort of emotional content flood in first. It's just natural. It's just unprocessed stuff. Wait, tell me the dementia stuff, though. Don't worry about it. Do I have it?

That's a joke. No, but what if I have it? You do not have it. Well, this isn't going to help right here. I'm just pointing at the alcohol. But they said that this does help. No, no, no. I thought this fixes all that stuff.

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but this Blanton's I've given away. George Lopez was here last time, and I gave him one of these. I love George. He's awesome. He's a great guy. Well, you know what's funny? We play at the same golf course, and we never really spoke that much. But I was telling him, I was like, I think you're a legend,

and people like me love you and respect you guys, but we don't get to see them really anymore they kind of live in their own space yeah and we play at the same golf course and i was like you know i'd love to play with you sometime and we really connected on the show also because i think i think my generation in comedy is the last tie between his older and the new young guys maybe understanding or knowing who that generation was because the speed in which comedy is being created and received is fucking insane so much new comedy is being cultivated and and pushed on the internet now i don't know if there's a i shouldn't say if there's a respect for the generation above me above you yeah but i think it's kind of waning

a little bit because truly when i was a kid when started comedy, when I was 22 or 21, we were obsessed with the older people. Yes. It was like an obsession. We knew every word that they ever said in every special. Yes. We knew every performance. I've seen, I mean, it was just like a thing that we did. It was normal.

Culturally, I don't think you do that really anymore. Not to say that. Well, I'm going to bet that you guys represent some of that to the ones coming up. Some of that. A little. But I think the ones that are younger are looking at that grandfather generation, as we're talking about, as completely disconnected with nothing important to say to them. I know, but that's a bummer because what you just talked about before

is that's how we bridge these ideas of where we came from and where we're going and why comedies change shape or languages change shape. That stuff's all important to see the future. All I know is that throughout COVID in particular, Carolla and I were just going, where are the comedians? Why aren't they stepping up and confronting all this? Now, it's starting to happen.

A little bit, yeah. And there have been nodes, like these moments I've seen. I thought the first node, when the ice started breaking and there was opportunity for people to talk again, was when Fauci said, yeah, that thing might've come out of Wuhan lab. We'll look at it. You weren't even allowed to say that before. And all of a sudden, I knew that was a big note.

I knew that was when we'd start to be able to talk again. Well, Jon Stewart pretty openly joked about it on his show. Stewart did his thing. And then Bill Maher started to really go at it. And now all of a sudden it's loosening up and we can start to confront the stuff. Well, like anything, it takes time to start to feel comfortable with it

because the problem is people don't find stuff funny until we're all kind of on the same page about it. Not that we agree or disagree with it, but we all kind of go, all right, I think it's okay to joke about that.

Well, but early is good. Yeah. Early makes it even funnier. Well, it's more prevalent for sure. Then you really know. I mean, that's why Dave does what he does so kind of brashly is because he's just like, well, this is how I feel.

And he has the privilege, so to speak, to do that. Permission. He's got the license to do it. He does. And thank God he does. Yeah. Right? Because he's the other thing that's loosening stuff up.

Mar, Bill, I think is another one. He's sort of more the George Lopez generation. Sure. He's still quite relevant for people. No, he's sort of more the George Lopez generation. Sure. He's still quite relevant for people. No, he is. And I've stood behind him even when he says crazy stuff because his reasoning is unassailable. Well, when he said the Edmure and an ice cube came on and told him he can't say that, that was one of my favorite times. It was so funny because I think Bill thought he was- Being cool. Being cool with the joke. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. And ice cube was like, you can't do it.

Yeah. But there was a time when it was not clear that that was the case. You just don't do that. At least for, it may have been clear to a lot of other people, not the average white guy didn't necessarily understand that. Yeah. I remember I had a long argument with, I can't remember his name now. He was a DJ on Sirius. He sounded black.

He's a white guy and he- I got it. What's his name? I got it. Hold on. He sounded black. He's a white guy. And he. I got it. What's his name? I got it. Hold on. I know it. He has. His book has got butterflies on it.

He wrote a book. Wait, wait, wait. No, you're not talking about the. What's the Jamaican. You're not talking about that guy. Nope. This guy's white. I think he's from Philadelphia or something. There's a white.

Wait, hold on real fast. There's a white guy that was born in Jamaica that I went and saw him at the Malibu Pier. I thought he was black. Well, this could be the guy. What was his fucking name? Nobody was. Um, well, this could be the guy. What was his fucking name? Nobody was, but,

but he's got this like rich Jamaican accent. He kind of sounds like that. Yeah, he does kind of. Why can't I think of that dude's name? Yeah. But I went and saw him and I couldn't believe it. I was like, that is a white guy.

Well, he argues me that, that there's no problem using the N word and the kids and 14 year olds are using it. I was arguing, I'm saying, look, I, I've discussed this with my friends that are African Americanan-american and they're saying just keep it

out of your mouth that's all just don't probably shouldn't say i just shouldn't don't don't do it yeah and uh so he was like no oh i almost have his name i almost have it too i'll get it because there's a guy that no there was a there's a jamaican guy that used to be on k-rock is who i'm referring to do you not know that that's uh that's uh yes i know who you're talking about i and the fact that i can't remember his name is obscene because he was an attorney jamaican on K-Rock is who I'm referring to. Do you not know who that is? That's, yes, I know who you're talking about. The fact that I can't remember his name is obscene because he's an attorney. Jamaican. He's actually a lawyer.

Wait, I'm going to look it up right now. K-Rock Jamaican DJ. Yeah, it'll come right up. No, but listen, so what we did was we went to, yeah, we went to the Malibu Pier, and they were doing a, why can't I think of his name dude Oh Native Wayne

Native Wayne And so the whole time I thought Native Wayne I listened to him for years I think he is black though I'm almost positive Native Wayne is a white guy He looks white And he's a lawyer too He's gonna fucking sue me

Native Wayne Native Wayne I think he's white I'm almost positive He's going to fucking sue me. No, no, no. Native Wayne. No, no, look at that. That's Native Wayne. That's Native Wayne. Yeah, I knew him. I think he's white. Okay, all right. I'm almost positive. It doesn't look what you expected anyway.

Not even a little bit. Yeah. Native Wayne, his name is Wayne Jacobson. And he was born in Jamaica, sure. But also when you see a guy that looks that way, that sounds a type of way, it just doesn't it doesn't match up yeah but uh i was just i was shocked that i was like well he's what's wrong you can't find it now find this guy's name you're not thinking about native win others no no no this guy's serious and i think wayne had a thing on serious too but this this guy was very very popular oh are you talking about are you

talking about um oh you're talking about uh rude j? Rude Jude. Rude Jude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still on. Yeah, I know. Yeah, he's still on. But he argued with me. He's on Shade 4.5. And by the way, I love the guy. He's a great guy.

And the book was good and everything. He's a great guy. But we had this, and then it sort of, we didn't do it. I don't think that aged well. I don't think that argument aged well for you. Sure. But what got us here? What were we talking about?

So Bill Maher uh this covid see it just comes back yeah but it's kind of nice to forget for a minute i don't like it i rely too much on my brain uh he the really the crazy thing bill said that i stood behind him because it was it was it was uh rationally consistent it was it was logically right he made a comment when he had a politically incorrect. Did you ever do that show? No. You're too young for that.

No. I used to do it all the time. I mean, I used to watch it. I used to do it all the time. It was the best television ever. Most fun I ever had on TV. Yeah.

Really challenging, good. Of course he was always in there, you know, punching away. And, um, and he lost that,

you know why he lost that show? Uh-uh. Because he, in his monologue said, you know, something about, he was quoting somebody talking about the courage of the military to send missiles over to Iraq. And he went, that's not courageous.

Courageous is sitting behind a plane and driving into a building. You may not like it, but that's courageous. Sure. Lost his show. Really? And I just said, Bill, I'll stand right behind you. That was just simply true. I don't like it.

I hate it. I'm sorry you said it. Wish you hadn't said it. But it's the truth. That is, that's a little more intense. It's chaotic and insane. And he still is like that.

He still does stuff where I go, oh, come on. But your reasoning is beyond reproach. Well, but it's also because I think if you don't have anything

that's salacious in his world and a little questionable, then you really don't have any content politically to talk about. You're not doing your job. Yeah, in his world and a little questionable then you really don't have any content politically to talk about you're not doing your job yeah because politics should be a little annoying and uh harmful to the way you think and feel the idea that we're all going to feel the same and think the same is is is chaos he was very kind of did you see the shit storm i dealt with i'm allowed to say shit right you can say whatever you want on the show i figured i figured uh shit storm i dealt with when i was uh to say shit, right? You can say whatever you want on the show. I figured.

Shitstorm I dealt with when I was appointed to a homeless committee for LA County. It was a huge shitstorm develop. How dare you put this guy in this? Accusing me of wanting to arrest homeless people or I was interested in jailing people. At one point you said you wanted to eat them though. You did say we should eat the homeless. Anyway, shitstorm ensues.

The board of supervisors refused to vote on it. I was like, I don't shitstorm ensues. The Board of Supervisors refused to vote on it. I was like, I don't want the job anyway. The head of the Board of Supervisors had to convince me to take it because it just didn't sound like a good job to me to have to sit and listen to budget allocations for things that are not useful. But anyway, Bill Rumsfeld sent me a nice email. He's like, you would have been great in this job,

but you don't deserve to be treated like this. That's nice. Thank you. It's very nice. Why did they shut you down you think? Um, because I don't understand why they're, they cling to this narrative of unwillingness to treat people with addiction and mental

illness. I want to make them better. I want to help them. I know how to do it. It's like, I look at the homeless the way if, if people were had their, if I were a surgeon and everyone's abdomen was open lying on the street and I could repair it and no one would

let me repair it. Right. That's repair it. Right. That's what it feels like. I know how to take care of this. I know how to deal with that. The union's there and they're like, hey man, nobody stitches before we get to call it. I don't know what it is. It's this weird feeling.

You got to put them in a room first and put them in a house and then they'll be okay. It's like, no, no. Addiction is a medical illness that progresses without treatment, period. So what is the solution then? Well, you, we need large residential facilities. We need, and it needs to be, people need to be required to go in. And so they need like a, imagine a high rise. Yeah. Filled with.

Yes. Like, like there's some talk of taking the Sears building downtown and turning it into a big residential, big residential programs, fully staffed. But then you have, so you have staff for all these people, right? You have to have doctors, lawyer, doctors nurses psychologists uh you know vocational rehab specialists 24 24 7 oh yeah it's a hospital can they leave at certain levels you'd have different levels of care and stuff and you move people through it and you get them out into the workforce you get you you can make them better i i did it for 20 years i know how to do it the fear i think

that always enters my mind is like bureaucracy and systems like that's got to be sketchy so how do you control that so it doesn't become a prison it's it's well i mean the this is the problem which is how do you make it something that they have to participate in and yet aren't imprisoned totally uh and i think you do it by the criteria you do lots of criteria criteria criteria for improvement criteria for improvement, criteria for getting out, criteria for getting. And if you don't want to, you don't have to, but you just can't lie on the street and die. Right. You have to do something. Either you take Suboxone or something.

You just can't. No other country on earth lets people just die on the street. Right. They require them to do something. We're the best at it. We are. Number one. California's number one.

Yeah, we're number one. California's number one. Nobody's got more homeless than us, baby. You don't forget that, rest of the world. Where did you think we were going to talk about today? I had no idea what you were talking about. I just wanted to see it. I didn't expect this.

Me too. That's why I wanted to come in. No, because it's a real issue that, you know, look, I just went home and- Chicago. Yeah, and it was weird because my dad is, you know, he's always got something to say about California, but now more than ever, well, now more than ever, he's like the scariness of your economy on top of the idea of like the smash and grab things that are going on and like the mob the mob robbery and also you know

we were we went to this place called fulton market um which used to be the west loop the west loop used to be a little tough and then the past 15 20 years it got really nice now it's like ritzy yep whatever it's just nicer but um he was talking about how he's he doesn't want my mom to drive into the city anymore because she drives in for work because he's like there's carjackings all the time and they're specifically going after like older cars it's a lot easier they're not gonna steal luxury cars these have tracking devices nowadays my mom has an older car and you know this fear is real again of like getting carjacked because people they're doing it a fuckload in chicago and we just we're talking about how much the dynamics have changed over i

when i felt like things were kind of on the up and up and then covid flipped society and now california the property is crazy again homelessness is higher than it's ever been looting is nuts it's like a common it's an everyday thing it's weird it feels kind of strange it feels like uh like i thought it was going to happen during the middle of covid but it didn't yeah i thought chaos was going to happen in the middle of covid yeah it really kind of was quiet yeah and now the aftermath it's almost like the aftershock of an earthquake yeah can do more damage than the first one yes so i i just get a little it bums me out a little bit yes i'm i'm bummed out what's the other side though?

What do you do? It makes me sad, yeah. Yeah. It makes me sad. But what do you do? You, I guess what you always have done, right? You just, you have to, I mean, what's going to happen? Let's say we don't police all this and it keeps happening, getting worse. Then people are going to start taking the law into their own hands, so to speak.

And it's going to be a catastrophe. See, that's the scary part. That's a catastrophe, right? That's what's creepy to me. And then into their own hands, so to speak. It's going to be a catastrophe. See, that's the scary part. That's a catastrophe, right? That's what's creepy to me. And then it's Yellowstone, right? That's what I understand that series is really about. Right. Well, because look, as much as Americans want to have power for their own self and protect

themselves in any way they can, which I understand, I see a couple of my neighbors and you're like, I don't want that guy to have a gun. He's going to shoot me. Right. You know what I mean? Or himself or his kid or something. He's going to shoot me. Right. You know what I mean? Or himself or his kid or something. He's going to kill me first.

Yeah. We've got an argument. You know what I mean? I just feel like, I don't know, the more I go home and the more I talk to my parents

about how times have changed, the one thing I did say is I never want to get to an age where I'm so frustrated with how things have changed that I check out. And I think that happens a lot.

Yeah. Not only check out, move. That's the thing that's happening. I've never been in so many conversations, serious conversations with people about getting out of California. And they're not talking about moving to Chicago or New York. They're talking about moving to Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Nevada, Idaho. Well, that's a lot of taxes too. Yeah.

Where? Those are the four tax states. Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Nevada. Have no tax. No state income tax. Yeah, right. Yeah, you hit all the, you hit bing, bing, bing, bing. Well, that's what people tend to talk about, but they all talk about Idaho and Montana

and other places, and they just want to be away from all this. They don't want to be in danger. Then what happens when everybody leaves California? It's horrible. I love California. I love Los Angeles, and it makes me sad that we can't. And as always, who suffers more? The middle, lower middle, impoverished.

I mean, with the school closures. I had a nightly news show during COVID. I don't know if you know that. I was on Fox 11. And I was there. We brought somebody in from the school board. The night they decided to close the schools, I was like, who made that decision and why? Based on what?

And what are the consequences? I was just asking the guy, did some infectious disease doctor tell you to do that? No, we just thought we should do it. And now when I talk to people, I've been doing a lot of interviewing. You can follow my streaming show at drdrew.tv. We'll plug it.

Andrew's been on it, of course. Yeah, it's great. And, but I've been interviewing A lot of medical experts Infectious disease people Ethics people And people that were In the decision making process

During all this stuff Or around it They weren't the ones Making the decision And they're saying it out loud now I go what was that Why did they do that Oh it was panic

It was panic Yeah it was It was panic And you see it now With the Omicron stuff Right did you see that Nonsense develop like that And to a

A virus that might be Actually good It might be better Omicron stuff, right? Did you see that nonsense develop like that? And to a virus that might be actually good, it might be better than not good, right? Really? Well, if it causes like a cold and you get full immunity,

full natural immunity from it, that's not a bad thing. That's kind of like how we treat a chicken pox at some point. It's like you got to go to school and get it. Just go get it.

Yeah, it's the same idea. So far, I don't think there's been one Omicron I've heard of that's in the hospital. Well, no, right. I heard a report this morning that they said something to the effect. And also, don't listen to me. I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, we're full speculation.

Speculating. Yeah, because this is a moving target. I get it. Yeah, it's going to keep changing. Yeah. But they did say that from what they've seen, the people are not as sick as they were with COVID. That's correct.

Because you know how sick you got from the original. Horrible. We had the OG one. That's right. We're not one of these new kids. That's right. We're the old school. got from the original. We had the OG one. We're not one of these new kids. That's right. We're the old school. Real COVID, man. We had the shitty one, man.

But men were men. The one where I went blind by my pool for an hour and a half. What? No, you know what happened? I was walking around my pool and I don't think I had enough to eat. Sounds too privileged.

You were walking in your backyard. I was walking in my backyard. What's a pool but a hole in the ground with some water? Still in the valley. It's all right. Yeah, the ground With some water Still in the valley It's alright Yeah yeah I don't live in the city What are you nuts

But I'm walking around And I hadn't eaten a lot Because I just Couldn't really eat much And my vision got Well but I've told you this before I have ocular migraines So I lose vision

In my right eye Yeah yeah And then I have Terrible headaches For like 15 hours But then I'm okay. Yeah. But I think it was like a lead up to an ocular.

Yeah. Man, I couldn't see. I had to sit down and I was like, but I had of all the sicknesses I've ever had, because I told you this too, I had pneumonia really, really, really bad about six years ago. And that was the time that I really did think,

I should call my parents. I might die. I mean, I felt like, I felt actually like I might die, like went to the hospital and did that whole thing. And the weird, the way they treated that was kind of wild. Pneumonia is, there was almost nothing that they could do. I had that feeling from H1N1.

I got that one too. That pandemic. Which no one knows about. The swine. The swine. It was the swine flu. Yeah. And man, that was bad.

Bad, bad. That was bad, bad. But it is nice. Look, moving forward on it. It is nice to be touring and meeting people and seeing people and feeling like we're all kind of trying to function again and like what like what are you gonna do when people ask me because they say a guy told me on set he was like are you afraid i was i'm sure i was shooting this this movie and a guy said um are you afraid to travel and do stand-up because of what's out there i said look dude i got the vaccinated and i had

covid yeah i feel as safe as i could feel and i don't know what else you want me to do. That's how I feel about it nowadays. And we have a little whiff of PTSD. You know, the idea of getting it again is like, we don't want it. I don't want to be near it. But I feel quite safe. And by the way, when I had it, I didn't feel scared. I mean, I had 1% fatality rate. Right. No, I didn't feel scared. I felt-

I felt just awful. Well, you know what it felt like? Similar what it felt like similar because I just had a, um, I had a stress fracture in my back. I've had a herniated disc now for about six months, but I'm better cause I'm PT and I'm yoga. And, but it feels the same way. I thought when I first popped my back and I first had the fracture, there is this looming thing, just like COVID where you're like, is this forever? Is this going to ruin? Am I not going to be able to do certain things ever again? COVID did, I did have of thoughts that's what i felt so relentless it was so relentless endless what did you do to rupture your compression fracture your spine yeah a hairline fracture what running you know what it was i would run i would lift and i'd run home and i confessed this to my doctor and

i guess you know he was saying that here's the deal he's like not everyone's body handles running the same way some people get improvements because of running their backs get stronger their legs get stronger their cartilage rebuilds so these are phenomenon that happen all the time but he was like also there's a lot of people that the pressure uh is put on certain discs differently when you run and he was like how far are you running i said five to eight miles every other day it just depends on the day. Some days I do 10, some days I do four. It is a lot. But he also said it was the lift. It was the running, then lifting, then running. And now listen, I wasn't, I'm not clean jerking 350 when I go to the gym. I was

doing minimal lifting. It was just to kind of build muscle a little bit and then run home. He was like, I think you weren't giving enough rest time and stretch time in between those running sessions because the body is, he's like, what you were doing was just a little too much to handle and you were doing it all the time. So he said the stress fracture,

although it's healed, the herniation will be there for a long, long, long time. I know. But I'm not doing shots. I'm not going to do injections. You don't have to unless the pain is so overwhelming.

He said don't. He was like, dude, you're better off not. He's like, because if you get started on that, that's the, that's, you'll be doing it forever. That's right. Like I golfed with a guy, he went and got,

we played in a golf tournament and he's like, oh, my back is fucking up. I'm going to go tonight and go. More shots. More get a more shot. Yeah. But even then the next day I will say he's, I mean, he could do fucking cartwheels.

Yeah. He feels so good. It works. It does work. If the pain is really bad, it's, you've got to do that. But, but back to the, I want to go back to the, your migraines, you know, there's a lot of data coming in about the cerebral vasculature, the arteries in the brain, which are, they're distinct. They're different.

And these things called classical monocytes are carrying bits of the spike protein that make them essentially never, they cause inflammation on the lining of the arteries. Right. And the cells never die. They persist. They don't have apoptosis the way they're supposed to. So it's this weird thing they're seeing in the long haulers that I think has something to do with why people are getting a lot of the brain stuff with the acute COVID. But can that be, that can be resolved? Doesn't over time start to go away or no? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, like everything. I mean, we don't know, right? We'll see if there's

more dementia or your, your dream states, you know, with your childhood memories coming back, may concern me a little bit. Great, true. Thanks a lot. Fuck. This is what I wanted today. Was you diagnosing my dementia early on? But wait, Alzheimer's is forgetfulness.

Dementia is confusion about space. Dementia is the syndrome of cognitive decline. Then under that, there's Pick's disease. There's Lewy body dementia. I don't want this. There's Alzheimer's dementia. Can I not have this? There's vascular dementia. I don't want any of Pick's disease, there's Lewy body dementia. I don't want this. There's Alzheimer's dementia. Can I not have this? There's vascular dementia.

I don't want any of this. I don't either. How do I improve brain function? I don't want, well, any languages you'd like to work on? Or math, I guess.

I did hear. And running and exercising, for sure. I did. Oh, I exercise. I exercise and diet. But I did hear that somebody posted,

my buddy posted the other day, the five things that a neurological specialist from Harvard said you should avoid for high cognitive brain growth and function. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whiskey. Alcohol. Yeah. Sugar, added sugars.

Yeah, yeah. Complex carbohydrates. Yep, I agree with all that. Anything, literally anything fried. Literally. Yeah. Anything. Fried food. French fries to fried chicken. Yep, I agree with all that. Anything, literally anything fried. Literally. Yeah. Anything. Fried food, yeah.

French fries to fried chicken. Yep, yep. And what was the last? Oh, nitrates. So meats and cheeses. The nitrates, I saw that too. So they were going at deli food. And I love that shit.

I do too. And I'm not sure about that one. That was the one I pushed back on. So I can keep that one? I'm keeping that one. Okay. But I was interested that they put complex carbohydrates in

because that's new. Because wasn't that that used to be something positive because your body would turn it into energy? Fuel. Back in the day,

you need your pasta to fuel you. I need some pasta. We used to have pasta parties the night before basketball tournaments. Jesus Christ. And we'd go over

to somebody's house and we'd sit in their basement and eat two pounds of pasta and then watch movies and laugh and drink a gallon of Coke because you could when you were a kid.

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I'm never going to stop You're Irish My balance is if i can keep working out and stay physically as healthy as i try to be as i get older i'm gonna keep the other my grandmother's 91 yeah and we just took her to lunch yeah and i gotta tell you something you're a prideful goat yeah that is that is i am a prideful goat i know you want to try some look you're of're sniffing around. Of course I do. I actually had more, whiskey destroys me. Why? It just, I just get wasted by it.

I just do it. It quickly gets you drunk. And then I get reflux and then I can't sleep at night. And I just, but I like it. I like it. I enjoy it. When you get drunk, you can't make it through the night. You keep waking up.

Yes. Yeah. I hate it. It's bad. You're just like startling away. It's called sleep latency is all off. And wine does not do that to me. Bourbon always does that to me.

Really? Isn't that weird? Yeah. See, for me, it's when I just, if I'm out having a big night of drinking, I'll stay up all night. I mean, really, like I'll fall asleep and then I'll have to wake up. Like I don't get drunk and pass out like people do. I'll get liquored up and then be at home and then fall asleep and then wake up at 4 a.m. Yeah, I hate that.

Pee and then wake up at 6 a.m. Yes, I get that. I don't like that. But wine, see, wine doesn't, wine doesn't give me the same. Because I, if I had a lot, I suppose that would happen, but my days are too full. Sure.

When I sleep, I screw it up. It screws everything up for the whole day. You don't put, so do you plan a night when you're like, we can get toasted tonight because tomorrow I don't want to watch it. Yeah, I kind of did that for Thanksgiving and I, and we had all this nice stuff. We had very interesting things.

There's something called, I should have brought it. I'll bring it next time. Lost Republic. You will love this. Wait, how do I, why do I. It sounds familiar. It's a whiskey.

Lost Republic. It's really good. It's good, huh? Really good. Did you have people at your house for Thanksgiving? Yes, we had 20 people. Yeah.

You want to come next year? 20 people? Did you check vax cards? We, we, we asked that everybody vaccinated, but we didn't check anything. And nobody, last year I came away with COVID, not this year. I was going to say, isn't this a little reminiscent of the past? It is. But I want to go back to your Irish heritage.

Give it to me. Is it Scotch Irish or Irish? Do you know? Irish, Irish, Irish. So it didn't go sort of Northern. Nah. Irish, Irish, Irish. So it didn't go sort of Northern.

So there's this great book called Albion Seed about how, what regions of Britain settled this country. And it's very interesting. I have to write it down right now. It's a very boring read. You might want to read the Sharks Notes or something. What are they called now? Cliff Notes. Albion Seed.

A-L-B-I-O-N. Albion is the old ancient name for Britain. It's Albion Seed, meaning the offspring of Albion is the old ancient name for Britain. It's Albion seed, meaning the offspring of Albion. Sure. And, you know, the Puritans came from a certain area in Eastern Europe and the Eastern England and the, uh, and the, the, the, uh, Quakers came from another thing and the people that said Baltimore came from another thing.

These were like different country, different cultures and countries within England. Right. Right. And they came here and when people, I, I And when people, I guess I was thinking about this because people were talking about it during Thanksgiving. They're like, oh, these people at that time were lots of different people. Right. There wasn't a one kind of- This was just the Puritan thing in Plymouth. That was one little settlement. And whatever they did,

I don't really know, but it was not cool. I get it. But they had the Quakers in Philadelphia. They were establishing a utopia. They had Lord Baltimore set up in Maryland. They had, what's his name thing? William, what's his name? Rhode Island setting stuff up. But the interesting group were the Scotch-Irish and the Irish that came in through the Carolinas. What did we do?

That's the interesting group. What did we do? To me, that's the part that got me. And they fought in the war, big time. Oh, they did? Andrew Jackson was one of these people. He was a Scotch-Irishman? Absolutely.

Good man. Came in through the Carolinas. His mom was a nurse, tended to revolutionary soldiers in the docks. They had boats filled with injured soldiers or something. uh any event uh they essentially you you watched uh lord um covid uh the the hbo show with the dragon queen uh oh game of thrones you watch game of thrones that's covid uh you watch game of thrones lord of the thrones lord of the king run thrones game of game of lords you watch game of thrones no you did not watch it never saw saw it. Well, I was afraid of that. So there was a-

People tell me about it all the time. There was a group in there that were called the Wildlings. And they were these people that were just completely out in the wilderness. And they were brutes. They were maniacs. And if they wanted to marry somebody, they hit them over the head and drag her by the hair and steal her from them. That's how I met my wife. Right.

That is actually what was going on in Northern England and Scotland. That's a good representation of who was hanging out. And mind you, because the British went up there multiple times with genocidal assaults, the ones that were left were serious survivors, like serious. These guys are hardcore. Hardcore. That's who settled the Carolinas in the South. That's amazing. Yeah.

And the really crazy ones amongst them thought they'd throw their family in a wagon and take them west. They were the super crazy amongst the crazy. Sure. And thus we have what we have out here. Well, thank God for the crazy people. That's right. They settled everything.

That's why people like California. So blame them for taking over the native lands. It's your people that took over indigenous people's property. Wait, but did we take it over or did we just go out there and say, hey, we're going to be here as well? I wonder how that all worked. What's the documentation on how much people really went west? Did you ever read Little House on the Prairie?

Yes. Did you? Yeah. One of her books, she gets into that. She talks about how there was a native or indigenous people's group nearby and they had some sort of all-night event where they were told by, tipped off by somebody that this was a war sort of ritual and they were going to come slaughter all the settlers because they were encroaching on their lands and on their ability to game and hunt. I wonder how much of that was not-

But imagine that happens once and now it's on. Right. You know what I mean? And that's it. And not that they didn't have a grievance, they did. But if it gets violent for whatever reason, now it's on. Now that's how people, that's how wars start. But can you imagine if you could just show them a map of how big the land was?

You'd be like, there's so much more that we could also have. And who knows what the settlers were doing? Well, the discrepancy was always about port. Port cities were tough because everybody wanted access to water. They wanted access to be able to get in and out. So outside of that, I do think, that's why I used to joke years ago, I had a joke about when I lived in Arizona, I said I couldn't believe to meet white people who were generationally Arizona. Not natives. If I have native friends from Arizona, it makes sense, right?

Their ancestors were living there for a long, long, long time. But when I met white people from Arizona, I was always like, man, your ancestors just gave up. They were headed west to California. And they stopped. You have weak ancestors. They just didn't keep fucking going. They were going for water and gold.

That was the whole goal. And they stopped in Arizona and was like, this will do. 104, I guess we'll do. I couldn't find, I always used to shit on white people who have generationally lived in Arizona for five generations. You realize they just were weak. They never, they couldn't keep going. Have you spent time in Phoenix or Tucson though?

I went to school out there. Four years. It's kind of beautiful. It just gets a lot of summer. I love it. Yeah. But also I just think historically, it never made sense that these white people

who were trying to settle for the West stopped there. Because there's no resources, by the way. There's no resources out there. You can barely grow food. What did they do for water? I mean, well, a lot of it was started up north. Flagstaff does get a lot of water. They get snow.

So Northern Arizona does. But down in the Valley and Phoenix, I don't know. So they just sort of slowly probably moved down there moved down well because there was there i mean also because of the migrant i mean first of all it was mexico at one point right you know that's another part so there was a there was a cultural clash that was happening taking over you know so i do think it is interesting to find people that were from there but i always make fun of them because i'm like you couldn't keep going there's so close that we we really don't appreciate the complexity of the settling of this country but both in terms of the stuff i'm talking about with the genetic heritages and the cultures that come in but then once we did

after that it's very complicated and where we went and why we went there see me my my mom's parents and my dad's parents both came from sit from and from Ireland, and they both went to Chicago. Right. It was boop, boop, that's it. My family went from Ukraine to Toronto to Hartford to Chicago. See, that's at least a little bit of a, mine were just like, that's where we go, we have to be there. Yeah.

And we have to get it. Chicago, America. Chicago, America. That's it. It was. And I'm like, you know, how many generations didn't. There was the opportunity in Chicago, America, though. You could have a small business in Chicago. Did they have a small business?

Well, my grandfather was a fireman and his father was... Yeah, he did something with his hands. He was a laborer. They went where their ethnic groups were. Right. Labor. And then firemen went where their ethnic groups were. Right. So my parents.

Labor, labor, and then firemen, and now they're all firefighters or something. You know, I have a theory. Cops. Chicago's there to be, first time I went to Chicago, I was like, why is this big city here? What's it doing here? Why is it set up? And I thought, oh, it's the railroads. The railroads came through here, and the meat, and the railroads, and then the lakes, you could move stuff out there.

It's transportation. Yeah. through here and the meat and the railroads and then and then the lakes you could move stuff out there it's transportation yeah i have a theory that the reason the railroads ended up there they were supposed to go through st louis right that was the gateway to the west sure all the wagons went through st louis the railroad was going to go through st louis i have a theory it didn't go through there's a mystery why that. Why all of a sudden it's going up north like that. The other big mystery was why the Missouri Compromise was just vanished one day into the Kansas-Nebraska Act. It just, boom, all of a sudden, Missouri Compromise doesn't exist.

My theory is Stephen Douglas, the guy that Lincoln Douglas debates, made a deal to get behind the Kansas-Nebraska Act if they moved the railroad up to Chicago. Was it because Lincoln was an Illinois guy? Stephen Douglas was a senator from Illinois. This was before the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And I just think he made a deal because that's what mobilized Lincoln to get back into politics, the fact that the Missouri Compromise went away one day.

He was like, no one ever thought about that. Why did this suddenly, where did this Kansas-Nebraska Act come from? All of a sudden, we all agree we're going to let this thing go to extinction. And now, all of a sudden, it can go west and the railroad ends up in Chicago and not St. Louis anymore. Huh, that's interesting. Yeah. That's my theory.

Someone's getting paid. Right. Follow the money. Follow the fucking money. That's what it always is, is Someone's getting paid no matter what. And we usually- Even when it doesn't have anything to do with it, you can still figure out something by following the money.

You know what I mean? Isn't that everything we learned today? And then we look back and you go, well, it's so funny. By the time you find out about it, it's usually way too late. Like you're thinking about that now. Right. You're way too late. Right.

Back then they were like, I guess this is just what's happening. Right. And you know why I started thinking about that? Is because I got to be pretty familiar with the Lincoln-Douglas debates. I really got into them. Dug in. I dug into them. And I saw what just a mover Stephen Douglas was.

He didn't give a shit about it. He had no moral anything. He was just like, whatever works for people, that's what we're going to do. Right. Whatever makes things. That was his whole thing about the territories determining whether or not they'd be slaves to slavery or not. He's just like, whatever they want. It's all right, whatever.

It's like, dude, you don't care about anything, do you? He's letting people pick. Yeah. His thing, what did he call it? Oh, shit. It's a phrase like, COVID again, like manifest destiny. I just don't think I'm not remembering. It's where the population determines the destiny of the state, no what no matter what they want they can have it that's like those um that's like the state uh

state phrases when you see like live free or die yeah you know whatever it was a little different because at least that was just we're going to protect what we have this was hey man we're gonna do whatever we want it's like really any whatever you want yeah i would love to see it though back then just to see how that functions well i would love to have seen how people operated back then when everyone's doing kind of whatever the fuck kansas broke down right there's something called bloody kansas i don't know what that is it broke into violence because they couldn't they couldn't they got so heated up about this because they couldn't control everybody couldn't have a rational discourse about it and people wanted to do what they wanted to do man and what did they do

there was there was just a big war? Like a local civil war? It was something called the Wilmot Proviso. And that set it all off. I forget the details. Yeah, but that was kind of the beginning of the stoppage of all that chaos. Let's see. Why did things, no, the stoppage was the civil war,

really. Oh, okay, okay. It really, that's because their stuff was sort of emerging here and there and all of a sudden boom they focused nationally see i i get like we my sister when we were in boston and my sister went to go to salem and i didn't know i didn't like know much about salem you know and i looked it all up and i and during the witch hunts uh you know two that it was two men you know two men Got hung In the town square And all

It was like Well it was John Proctor right I mean that was the thing about That's the The Arthur Miller play The Crucible Was about this Yeah

But he really was writing About the McCarthy trials But it ended up being It was a metaphor For the McCarthy trial But I was thinking When I thought Two

These two dudes Can you imagine They're hunting down These women These witches And to be one of the two dudes thrown in there? What did you fucking do? But that's the thing about, that was what I was worried about.

We are all over the place, man. Yeah. Is that good? Yeah. Okay. So without the booze too, it's amazing. I've been drinking, you just don't know. Okay, good.

When this present moment developed, the thing I was concerned about was the guillotines, the cancel culture. This is the modern equivalent of the guillotine. And the thing you learn if you look at your history is that when the guillotines are out, eventually everybody goes on the guillotine. Yeah, right. It's not limited to the, first it's the transgressors, then it's the people that aren't pure enough. Right. And then it's the people that aren't pure enough. Right. And then it's the people that put the not pure enough on because everyone's pissed.

So eventually all, it comes for you. We all get fried. It comes for you. And that's what Bill Maher has been saying. He's been saying that. Right. And I thought that was a pretty astute thing for him to say, because that's the way history,

it's the way human history works, just the way it works. Right. If you think that, and it's the way religion works too. We just look at your history. It's just there. It's always been there. And we just the way it works. Right. If you think that, and it's the way religion works too. Just look at your history. It's just there. It's always been there.

And we just haven't done it in this country except in Salem's when we did it. That's when we did it. Yeah. Bad. It was real bad. The more I read about it. Well, we did those. To be fair, we did it with the McCarthy thing.

It was just the other side of the aisle doing it, right? But hunting for people, hunting people to assume that they're this other species is wild to me. They were able to convince everybody that they might be this other. That's hysteria. That's wild. Right. And they bought it. Educated people were into it.

We are going to look back at this last year and have similar kind of thoughts. That we were off our rocker. They were so hysterical. It was a histrionic disorder. I really, I watched us turn to narcissism i wrote a book about it i watched it happen i was in a hospital working in a hospital when i saw the narcissistic disorders coming in it's been a histrionic turn now i don't know what triggered it i don't know why we why we would go to histrionic disorder but that's it and i first

thought of it when i first sort of saw it when I heard crazy thinking, which is part of histrionic. You get delusional really easily. And so about a year ago, I started appearing to people saying, I'm going to go out and kill Nazis. There's Nazis over here and there's Nazis over here. And there's a Russian operative in the White House and Nazis and Nazis. And if you had done that two years before, talked about seeing Nazis everywhere, I would put you in the hospital for a thought disorder. That's crazy.

100%. Nazis everywhere. And I thought, oh my God, this is just in the thinking of the culture right now that people are delusional. And so that kind of thing is not going to age well. No, that's going to be scary.

Yeah. I think the other side of it is the precautionary parts of our- The safety uber alice. Yeah. Safety, safety, safety. Safety. Safety so you can't live.

Yeah, that's wild. That's bad. You need to live, everybody. Go live. Live. Living is not always safe. But living, I feel like people just need to live intelligently and make sure you're- Rational revolution.

Pristina P and I had the rational revolution yeah just do rational evolution do your best to do the right thing so that everything can operate as so instead of chaos and pulling away from society and stoppage of everything and then you're like well we all need to learn how to function and do this together and if we all kind of work on a similar line then we all kind of start to get back to whatever fucking normal is. I mean, you know, I- Well, I'm also Hegelian in the sense that the thesis, antithesis, synthesis idea, I believe some good things will come out of this. No, I think a lot of good things are coming out of it.

Yeah. Right. And it's just, we got to get back to the synthesis. We got to get back to the middle of it. That is really true. There are good things that are going to come out of this. The one thing I don't want to see out of this is TV shows and films all about this. I don't want to see more shit about-

What about COVID? I don't want movies about COVID because you know that's on the docket. You'll be in them. I'll watch them. I'll take them. If you're in it, I'll watch them. And by the way, if you're directing or anybody's looking for cast those, I will be in any of those things.

No, I just think I don't need- I want to be in some stuff like that where I play counter- Oh, the counter type. The counter type, yeah. Yeah, like I'm a drug addict or something or a cop or something crazy that I'm not. You're a detective that's gone off on his. Gone off my meds. I'm psychotic now.

Drew's lost it. We can't get a hold of him. I'd love to do that. He shut down all communication with everybody. I've said that to anybody else that knows, you know, wants Andrew to take me to. Oh, by the way, I was going to ask you, when I said to you last time, I asked you a question when I had COVID. And I said, is masturbation okay while I was really sick? Because I was like, obviously, I can't have sex.

But is masturbation okay? And you gave me the go-ahead. Yeah. Because I was scared for some reason. I don't know why I was scared. You can blow out hammers in your head. Can you really? But let me tell you something. This is go. It's good. You can blow out hammers in your head. But let me. Can you really? But let me tell you something.

This is wild. It helped. After COVID, like my. Sex drive went up? Through the roof. I had a little bit of that too. Through the roof. Yeah.

It was crazy. I mean, it leveled at some point, but it was kind of crazy. I kind of thought it was me just celebrating, feeling better. Being alive. Yeah. I'm back to normal. Yeah. I'm telling you something.

Celebrating life is something people need to get back to. Sure. And that's what I saw in New Orleans with the Dave Chappelle show. Yeah. That's what I see occasionally in people in restaurants and places where I go and people are like so happy to be together. And you need other people to live. That's where life is lived.

Well, you can feel the vibrations of being out Around other people Who are enjoying stuff Yeah Is unbeatable Yeah it's really We went to the Eagles game When I was in Philly Oh So fun man

It's just so fun To be around all these people Because the energy It's just so fun I think the best part About sports I know a lot of people That don't like sports

And we get into arguments All the time Really Well there's guys I think in the art world Oh I see In the world of comedy or art and art artists are usually like sports are fucking barbaric and archaic.

Yeah. But I think a lot of people that I get into arguments about my, my, my sole reason for trying to win them over is imagine talking to that you don't know these people. We sat next to these, this couple and engaging with strangers who you have one thing in common right we may not we may disagree on everything politics and and religion and all sorts of shit but we like this thing together and so immediately you're friends it's almost you weren't sitting next to baltimore fan no but it was weird it was so in sync that you're like yeah we don't know each other but we'd be we bought this guy but that's what nationalism used to be too by the way or even pride in your civic you know i mean our community and stuff right you need those

things it makes you these guy had primo primo subs philly people will know primo subs are really great big italian hoagies and uh hoagies and this guy had four of them they had snuck him in his son's jacket perfect and so we had a couple of beers and we were like oh man those look that's awesome good move you know better than getting the shit food that was at the and then he gave us a sub and he gave us one we broke it in half we shared with our neighbor and then i bought everyone beers and then it becomes this like community chummy community yeah and it should that's the reason why when someone disagrees and doesn't like sports i'm always like you're missing it it's more about this thing than it is about yeah that thing happening i agree with you by

far i agree i love the game and by the way there's something uncanny about being with 60 or 80 000 people in a collective experience while that where emotions are going together up and down right that's amazing where else do you get that you know you know what where else is that feeling maybe a rock concert but even that doesn't seem that to me i don't like that as much well because it doesn't feel as well because i'm the whole time i'm thinking like how are we gonna get out of here fucking the parking's gonna be a nightmare is there a train can we take a train to leave so i i talked to someone about that that said we should go to more a friend was like we should go to more concerts or live shows my biggest beef about concerts is it's so many people and for

some reason i think comedy has become more of the the place the place to go yeah to me i mean more people should go see comedy that's what i'm trying to say i i mean that yeah because i i'm seeing more sort of meaningful communal experience there than at a rock concert get people by the way here's seeing a 75 year old play of you know guitar licks it's like why is that a new thing that's the revolution of people of old rock stars that are touring again i wanted to see their last chance yeah but i wanted to see i i missed you before when you were young yeah i kind of i i by the way i'm going to say something controversial now which i'm sure i've said before but i generally have uh i wouldn't say disdain, but I have a little bit of like a question mark over my

head when it pertains to the sort of the idolatry of rock stars. I mean, these were guys that learned how to play an electric guitar so they could meet chicks. Right. At a time when playing the electric guitar and the drums was the thing to do. Yeah. And then they behaved like really horrible. Animals. And they did horrible things, have not copped to any of do. Yeah. And then they behaved like really horrible. Animals.

And they did horrible things, have not copped any of it. Right. And now we're supposed to call them geniuses. I mean, I still like Led Zeppelin and I like the Beatles and I like things like that, but I don't, they shouldn't be idols. They're not geniuses. But they are idolized.

Yeah, and that's the mistake. That was a mistake. Yeah. And to's the mistake. That was a mistake. Yeah. And to see comedy kind of moving into that zone right now, I'm liking that. I think that's a good thing. Oh, you do? Yeah. You like, so what.

You're not being idolized, but you're allowing to be the rock star a little bit in a big room. And I think that's a good thing. Well, because there are, I mean, Dave is kind of a rock star of comedy. He's become, yeah, I think Dane Cook was like the first kind of like rock star because he stadiumed himself. Stadium guys. And, uh,

he became that thing. Meta Scalco did that. Sebastian's that now. I mean, Burr is that now. I mean, those guys are all kind of becoming the rock stars of comedy. The only worry I have when people get that big and comedy is,

um, staying kind of somewhat in touch with people. I mean, the comedian's job partially is to just kind of be the everyman, so to speak. Correct. The guys, you know, the ones that were in New Orleans with me, so it was Jeff Ross, Joe Rogan, Tom Segura, Dave Chappelle.

They're fine. Yeah. No problem. Yeah. They're in touch. No, but it is hard to keep that. I think it's hard to keep that. I think part of the reason Dave-

It depends on the guy. I think part of the reason Dave- It depends on the guy. I think part of the reason Dave went to that farm in Ohio is because he wanted to keep that thing. That's my opinion. I may be completely wrong, but I do think the bigger you get, it is very hard. Look, I just shot a movie with Kevin Hart, and Kevin's amazing. I don't really know him, but he is a space cadet. Not in the loopy sense. He doesn't know.

He's just, he's up there. He's way, way up there. He's way out and above. And it's almost like- That's gotta be weird to become that, I guess. Yeah, it's not even his fault. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like you're talented enough

where people want to raise you as high as they can. Here's the real risk where that becomes a problem is if you've never had a day job. Right. Like a day profession. But he's gone through that. He started from the bottom, so- As a comic as a comic yeah but i mean as an actor too i mean he was like a bit part actor and a comedian so he started really low i mean a day job where that you think that's

what you're going to do your whole life well i think he probably did that that'd be good well he's actually seemed pretty even to me i'm surprised to hear you say that about him so i'm not surprised i mean he's even he's even in the fact where he's still grounded. I just think there will always be a piece that is uncontrollable. I see. He's so big. He's just. He can't go jump on a Southwest flight to Vegas. Right.

Do you know what I mean? That's what I mean. I mean, you're kind of removed from, and boo hoo, it's champagne problems. I know people at home are like, who the fuck cares? I'm just saying there is a piece of getting fame or larger in our business that you do lose things that you kind of still want. It will disconnect you. Yeah.

You don't have a choice. But you could fight to keep it back. I mean, you could fight. You can try. I've learned, I learned yesterday some friends of mine that are celebrity types

about this. I don't have these problems by the way. It's kind of nice. Yeah. But at the, there's a, it turns out there's this thing

you can go to at LAX which is like a suite. Concierge, yeah. I know what you're talking about. And they drive you to, yeah, they drive you to the terminal. Holy to yeah they drive you to the terminal holy they drive to the plane yeah to the plane yeah yeah like what yeah and then you board what is this parallel universe you've done it no no no but i but i know people that do it wow yeah in fact when what i mean that is when rogan and i were touring he still did we still walked through the terminal and went on i'm sure

i mean now i think he does. He privates maybe, but. But just because he can afford it. I mean, I bet he would have no problem walking through. No, he liked it. We used to, he had no problem back in the day, but also. I told him I would smoke weed with him on his podcast. You should.

When was the last time you smoked weed? Weed does not affect me. It just doesn't. I don't like it. It doesn't affect me. At all. Last time was with him actually. You rip an edible, you'll feel it.

Probably. And I find it all not pleasant. Like anxiety inducing? Just not, doesn't feel good. Really? That's the best I can describe it. You don't get good tingles upstairs in the head? No, I don't.

I don't. But I'll try. I mean, as long as it's legal. I mean, I'm not endorsing it. Nor am I endorsing alcohol for Bobby. No, not for him. You know what I'm saying? I mean, there are people that have problems with these things.

And by the way, I've seen lots of trouble, even from cannabis moderate use in adolescence. I've seen a lot of shitty things happen. Well, I've said that. It's legal, whatever. Underage is tough. I do think, in retrospect, we are going to look back about my generation. I mean, we were all big pot users and we were all 14, 15, 16. I think if they can control it and let you have it later in your teens or in your early 20s, it's a lot easier on the brain.

We do know that the frontal lobes are important in terms of us creating action. Yeah. And I think weed gets in the way of that. Sure. When you're young. Yeah. When it's not developed. No, I agree.

You're not able to do the things you should be doing with the same enthusiasm that is normal in youth. And that's a problem. Well, do you have like a thing that gets your creative juices going? Oh, I don't mean something I consume. Yeah.

Nothing, huh? Yeah, like exercise, stuff like that. Exercise gets you more creative. Yeah. It does. Yeah. That's funny. It does the opposite for me. Yeah. Nothing, huh? Yeah, like exercise, stuff like that. Exercise gets you more creative. Yeah. It does. Yeah. That's funny. It does the opposite for me.

Yeah. When I'm done exercising, I just, I disappear. See, it's like meditative for me. My best thinking is either in the shower or when I'm working out. Those are my two. Really? Yeah. You're firing a lot in the shower.

In the morning in the shower, it's uncanny how much stuff I think about and what comes to me. That's funny because I used to, when I would take long showers before I would do shows when I was on tour, I always wished there was something I could write on in the shower on the wall. We should make something, Drew. It's a tape recorder even, just something we can just speak into. Because I used to think that I would just

wait until I got out and I'd speak it into my phone, but I thought how fun would it be to have something that could capture digitally what you wrote on the wall of the shower and transfer it to your phone yeah we need to make this prideful goat pad prideful goat pad they're gonna sue us by the way they're like you can't did that to our thing no but i but i'm curious to know because you've got your you feel you endlessly fire right you you you're really active you're constantly doing something i try yeah so i like it i like but what is it that keeps that going then?

Exercise is the one thing that does it? Oh, it keeps it going? That's a different question, right? What am I, because I'm a thinker. I think and read and think and read and think and read. And so that's different than doing a lot of things. Doing a lot of things is where I feel like I'm actually, there's a guy named, an old psychologist named James Masterson.

And he was one of the original what are called self psychologists. And he had this theory that creativity, I personally believe that service is really one of the main things to a good life and happiness. But his thing was that creativity was that element that we all need. And I don't disagree with him. And for me, doing things is that creative endeavor. I have to be active doing stuff. Right. And I just love it.

I just love doing stuff. I don't know. I feel very, I'm so grateful, so grateful. I had a little, I don't know, I think I've been a little depressed lately or something because I was noticing that in things, I actually think my wife made goose and on Friday morning, I was really depressed.

All of a sudden I thought, maybe the goose makes me depressed. I should eat some more, see if I get depressed again. I'm going to do that experiment. Goose depression. But I love it. But so the next morning I was like, I should be so grateful.

I have so much to be grateful for. What is the matter with me? And it has something to do with not, I have to be doing stuff. I have to be active. That engaging, yeah. And some of, you know, when I was practicing medicine full time,

I did 14 hour days very routinely. No thanks. Very routinely. And not anymore. I don't think I could even do it, let alone want to do it. But everything else has felt easy and inadequate. Like I'm inadequate. Like I should need to be doing more.

So you feel like you're trying to make up for your lack of. I just feel a little inadequate all the time. And that inadequacy probably is something that's in, I'm sure it was something that was already in my psychology. Yeah. I always felt a little inadequate. Like it's part of your DNA. It's part of my thing.

So low self-esteem, inadequacy, we're sort of already in the background. Love that. Yeah. I think low self-esteem is not a bad thing because it makes you always feel like you're responsible for whatever happens. Right. Like if something goes wrong, it's like, well, it's something I did, I guess. I guess I've been to that.

But inadequacy is, I haven't felt inadequate In a long time I haven't been aware of it And I've sort of been Aware of it lately And that's a That's a more unpleasant feeling Yeah

Yeah And it I mean it sounds sad I get more anxiety And depression Than anything else But my anxiety Comes from workload

I put so much on my plate So you go the other way See I get high When I have lots When I'm When I'm overdone I put on my plate And I'm like

How am I gonna Fucking figure all this shit out It's almost like a puzzle I put on myself i get high from that oh fuck that's workaholic you like dumping out the thousand piece puzzle and you're like let's go no it's not that so much as we got to get from here to there and good luck see we got to do that gives me yeah it's so much anxiety but i take it on it's almost like i purposely keep loading up the plate over and over and over certainly makes things easier that are not as overwhelming. Right.

You know what I mean? Do you have trouble initiating things and getting stuff done? Yeah, 100%. My procrastination is through the roof. See, I have the opposite. I have the opposite. If something comes on my plate, I have to do it now. Like when you were in school, you never procrastinated at all?

A little bit back. When you say it, i now know so once i was in graduate training and stuff absolutely the opposite just had to get done immediately immediately but when i was in school i used to procrastinate on writing assignments i hated writing so i'd have trouble i'd stare at a page for long periods i loved writing but i still waited i loved it i couldn't wait the night before oh that was like where the best shit was going to come out because i was annoyed i was agitated my brain was on fire i was overthinking everything so then i could put out more shit on the paper writers rule the world i've decided that they do yeah they do

kind of they set everything up wait i wanted to ask this real fast when you were doing 14 hour shifts yeah because i just did this thing with dr ken Ken. You know Ken Jeong, don't you? I know him well. I used to have him sit in for me on Loveline before anybody knew him. Really? Yes. Was he good? Excellent. Yeah, he was really good. Very smart, good doctor.

He's very smart. Very sensitive. Good. He's an internist like me. I had the same training. He said to me, we talked about pulling late shifts, you know, like these long, long, endless shifts. And he was like, oh, doctors are all trying to do something to stay awake. And some people get juiced on exercise.

Some people drink caffeine, like an insane amount of caffeine. And I said, you know, what about you? And he said, I would have a case of Diet Cokes. Oh, yeah. And I was like, that's fucking terrible. And a doctor consuming a case of Diet Coke. What's it doing to you? No big deal.

That shit's got to be bad. Nah. Really? But, well, a case, not case not good probably yeah there could be something going on but what he drinking a diet coke every day is not bad for you no we we live in a litigious society if it was there any evidence at all that was bad for us you don't think somebody so sue coke if there was any evidence of any sort i guess well okay always measure it with that with that yardstick but but but regular coke yeah because it gives the amount of diabetes and sugar. And teeth.

But the aspartame or whatever it's called that's in there, we don't know. Not one lawsuit on aspartame. Yet. How long has it been? Around 20 years? That's not long enough, is it? For us to know? For lawyers?

They'll sue for anything. They'll sue for anything. But to his point, though, physicians, we don't look after our health. In fact, we have a pride In sacrificing our health For our patients That's why you see fat doctors Fat doctors Doctors that don't sleep

Sleep is more important Than we understood And my thing was You don't sleep You sacrifice for your patient You don't go home You don't No matter how much you

And you also don't stay home If you're sick You work You get your shit done Which was weird. Think about that. You put health aside for the health of other people. Oh yeah.

You were pounded that. And that's what made us think we were doing something so important. I thought what I was doing was so, so, so important. And now it's just sort of like. But is that altruistic or is that a little self-indulgent? It's a little culty is what it is. Because you're not really doing it for the, for to say like, I'm really doing this because I care so much. No, you are.

But you also like the- The high and the status. Yeah, because we- But it's a little, it's more, you don't, because everyone was required to do it, it had a little culty quality to it. Well, right. The leader said do it, you did it. And that was it. This happens a lot in entertainment all the time, right?

The people at the bottom of the rung of entertainment, right? Production assistants or people that are at the bottom that are working remarkably hard. There is a cult mentality over how painful the work is. Yep. They love it. Yep. In fact, they love to tell you. Yep.

When an actor or somebody bitches about, oh my God, do we been here since 6 a.m.? And they love to be like, we've been here since four and we're gonna be here till you know four hours after you're gone that's right and it creates this bonding mechanism for the struggle so it kind of keeps you happy because you're struggling together this happened when also when i was serving we were bartending and serving it was almost like for psychologically it's like the system makes you feel better that you're together even though you're pissed because you only got tipped three dollars the whole fucking night you know what i mean it's not it's not a super productive way to do things no it's not necessarily the best way to do things no because it's been eroded during covid i would

say it's i feel like people are a little bit like i'm not gonna do that anymore i think feel like people are valuing time a little bit more than they used to i think there's more vacations that people are going to start taking people don't want to sacrifice their whole life for work anymore more than they have to right you obviously have to work to live and however your finances are is your own business. But I do think people are valuing spending time with friends and family and getting their shit, going to do their own thing. Yes. Because it's this whole, I'm glad the office collapse has happened. I'm glad that people aren't in offices all the time as much.

Yeah. But I think some of that will come back, but When I was sick with COVID, I had a very distinct feeling, which was I have been dead essentially for two months. Like nobody's heard from me. Yeah. And guess what? Everything's fine. Without me, everything's fine. Sad. And I've been miserable for these two months.

Right. But everything's still fine. So I could just as equally certainly disappear for four weeks and be happy. Right. And everything will be fine when I come back. That's the goal. So that's when we started traveling. That's it.

Me, I said, we, anniversary, we're going to Greece. And as soon as we got back from Greece, we're going to France. I don't care. We got to get out of here. And I've been so disgusted with so much that's going on in this country. It's really helped my perspective. Ah, to travel and see how the rest of the world is. It just helps you realize that it is so, and so much of it is California.

That's true. And we're right now, we're in the worst of the worst. We're in California, we're in Los Angeles. realize that it is so, and so much of it is California. That's true. Right now, we're in the worst of the worst. We're in California. We're in Los Angeles. Just go to Orange County. It's totally different. I know.

I came in from Orange County this morning. I know. It was totally different. You have to kiss someone in the mouth when you cross the border. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, come on in, Alan. Yeah, you're fine.

You're fine. No, I was at a Starbucks before I came here. Not mask. Couldn't find a mask anywhere. In Orange County? In Orange County, in the Starbucks inside. Well, I'm glad you brought it to my show. I'm here. Not mask. Couldn't find a mask anywhere. In Orange County? In Orange County, in the Starbucks inside. Well, I'm glad you brought it to my show.

I'm not producing virus yet. And by the way, it's probably going to be Omicron. You'll be happy for it. Omicron! Drew, thank you for coming. I thought we'd been talking. Like this went instantly.

It did. It did. We've been talking for an hour and a half, I think. And that's what happens when you and I get together. And you know, I need to come back on your show.

Yeah. My wife was like, tell me I need to come back. I want to go back. My wife was like, tell me I'm back. I want to go back. I had a great time. You guys know Dr. Drew. You can find all his stuff. Dr. Drew Live.

This group would probably like Dr. Drew After Dark. Oh, Dr. Drew After Dark, yeah. Which is at your mom's house. If you guys are Tom Segura's platform. They know the YMH people. Okay. All you YMH people. Get on that.

Hey, Hitler. No, no, no. We know what you're saying. I know what you're saying That's gonna be clipped And then put on something else I know There's lots of alohas

In your mom's house Right It's hey Hitler It's hi mommy It's hi jeans But wait a minute Also are you You're still doing

All the studio here Cause they're in Austin They're coming No I'm going to Austin Oh you are I go to Austin Every four to six weeks And do it down there

And it's been great They don't have Their full studio set up yet So it's all Yeah Tommy told me that. It's all in his house, fly by night. It's fun as hell. That's great.

It's really fun. They're doing an amazing job. And so, yeah, that I do. DoctorDrew.tv, DoctorDrew.com, it's all there. Yeah, we'll put it in the description below. And by the way, I do want to plug YMH, although even though they are raging anti-Semites and also white supremacists, I do like everybody over at that studio. I thought they just didn't like the Irish.

That's part of it. That's part of it. Because they welcome me. Maybe they- They don't know what you are. Yeah, that's true. You're just handsome. I'm a mutt at that studio. I thought they just didn't like the Irish. That's part of it. That's part of it. Because they welcome me. Maybe they... They don't know what you are. You're just handsome. Look in that camera and say one word or one phrase to end this episode. This camera? Yes, baby. Take us out. I've missed Andrew.

I've got to see him more frequently. I love you, man. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful.

You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.