Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Erik Griffin 3.0

Episode Date: February 5, 2021

Santino sits down with the mocha to his peanut butter, Erik Griffin to talk about dementia and realizing the moment you become your parents parent, changing of the guards in LA / Hollywood and why LeB...ron got into it with a fan and how it is the same thing we deal with in comedy. More Griff http://www.erikgriffin.com/ ORDER SOME MERCH!!! https://www.andrewsantinostore.com Join our Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/whiskeygingerpodcast SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! DUKE CANNON - Get your beard feeling, smelling and looking amazing https://dukecannon.com/ SQUARESPACE - Help design your website today with amazing templates and the help of professionals https://squarespace.com/whiskey Use promo code WHISKEY for 10% off UPSTART - Consolidate your debt today https://www.upstart.com/whiskey and get the best rates today Follow Santino on Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Whiskey Ginger Insta and Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast/ & https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Whiskey Ginger Clips: http://www.youtube.com/c/WhiskeyGingerPodcastClips EDITING AND PRODUCTION DESIGN BY THE AMAZING WHISKEY GINGER TEAM JENNA SUNDE https://www.instagram.com/jenna_sunday/ JOE FARIA https://www.instagram.com/joseph_faria Y&S https://www.instagram.com/youngandsick/ Intro Music by Rocom: https://www.youtube.com/user/RocomTelevision Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome to the show. Got a good one for you today. I sound like Steve Harvey. We got a good one for you today. I'm watching too much family food. My boy Eric Griffin is here. Love this dude. So much fun, man. Such a lighthearted, beautiful dude. That delicious caramel skin. That wonderful half andhalf mocha smooth skin he's got, that racially ambiguous skin he's got. I love Eric Griffin. He's my man. I'm not on tour right now, sadly. I will be back after I'm done filming the second season of FX's Dave. Hopefully, you may. I don't even know. We're not sure right now. But andrewsantino.com will have all that information. If you're looking for merch, if you're on YouTube, look down below in the merch bar. You can
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Starting point is 00:01:37 You're that creature in the ginger field. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are pugilistic. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again today. It's my man, Eric Griffin, The Return. Yeah, that is... The Return.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I'm here again. You're here again. I needed you. Well, it's Black History Month. Oh, yeah. Oh, here we go. You look at your roller decks like, I actually don't know any black people. First of all, I know more black people than you do, and that's a fact. That's a fact, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:22 I wanted to kick off Black History Month lightly. I didn't want someone really dark. We're going to ease people into Jamar Neighbors. Jamar Neighbors will be the end of it. We both. Because he was just on Rogan. I think that's what it is. Oh, he was? He's in the Lexicon
Starting point is 00:02:36 right now. What do you mean? Yeah, he was on Rogan. When? I just saw a thing about it. Oh. Well, because they were in Austin. Oh, right. Everyone. Rogan's starting to figure out that, damn, I don't have a, that's not a large pool. I didn't know that he went. That's good for him. I love Jamal.
Starting point is 00:02:50 A lot of people are in, they just go. No, I know. I know. Fahim just went down there. Indefinitely, too. Oh, really? Yeah. He doesn't, I mean, who knows?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Indefinitely? What, did he sell his condo? No, no, no. No, I just mean he doesn't know when he's going to come back in terms of like, I think he's out there to hang out, do shows. I think he was working remotely on something. Oh, okay, well that makes sense. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:11 I just think he'll figure out when he wants to come back when he comes back. But yeah, no, that's good. I didn't know. I don't follow, I don't see Joe's stuff anymore too because now that they switched over to Spotify, I feel like I never see it come up on my feed. Yeah, I think that there's something going on there. But if I was YouTube, Spotify is now going to be a direct competitor because they're about to do a video element.
Starting point is 00:03:37 They're already doing video. It's just not popular yet. It's just not a thing in people's head where they go, oh, let's start going to Spotify video. Then YouTube's got to be like, yeah, let's start doing, let's start going to Spotify video. Then YouTube's got to be like, yeah, man, you got to pick. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Right? Well, no, because I think, well, he still puts up clips I've seen. I've seen like a clip pop up. So I think he's allowed to do clips, but he can't do full chunks of an episode. I still think his episode, doesn't his... The episodes on YouTube, I don't think. I think it's only clips I don't even know
Starting point is 00:04:05 but what's the difference the clips get a million views you know what I mean it's like I put up a clip of this show it's like 3,000 people his clips somebody tweeted
Starting point is 00:04:16 today Billy Bonnell said oh god something to the effect of like I should just pull it up just to read it directly but you know Joe Rogan's dog, Marshall?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh, like 300,000? Try 800,000. I'm out. That's it. I'm done. Bro. That kind of stuff infuriates me. And Billy is such a funny comedian.
Starting point is 00:04:38 If you don't know Billy Bonnell, look him up. He goes, in four years, someone might ask me why I quit comedy, and I will sadly reply, because Joe Rogan's dog has 780,000 followers, and that really messed with my head. Yeah. I mean, it's so like honestly when you see that you're like that many people want to follow a golden retriever dude it's just it's just yeah you just go then you know then you're sitting at home you're looking at your Instagram you're just thinking to yourself like what am I doing yeah this doesn't matter like
Starting point is 00:05:00 what what what does this even matter people know what what they want. Have you got a part of this new dumb clubhouse? I just got a request to do a show. They're doing stand-up shows. On that app? Yeah, that's what I got told. I tweeted yesterday, at what point is Instagram going to try to buy Clubhouse and when they say no,
Starting point is 00:05:24 they're just going to do what they're doing. I mean, that's what they all do, right? That's what Instagram's been doing ever from the beginning. Right. If you don't let us buy you, we'll just steal your idea. We'll just do what you do.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Like they try to do TikTok now, like in the Discover thing. Reels. Yeah. Swing and a miss, and that one's way outside. Like all these apps are trying to mimic each other or just buy out the
Starting point is 00:05:45 property. To me, it's like, just stick to what you're good at. I like you for what I like you for. I don't like this clubhouse thing. So I haven't even used it. It's just like some sort of like group chatting, but like voice. Like, you know, you just go into a group and you hear people talking. And I don't like that. And another thing I don't like is...
Starting point is 00:06:02 By the way, somebody hit me up. The way you just did that. And I don't like it. And let me tell you another thing I don't like. No by the way, somebody hit me up. The way you just did that. And I don't like it. And let me tell you another thing I don't like. No, but I just realized something right now. Somebody tweeted at me the other day. Oh, it was a comment on the King and the Sting. It was like, he goes, oh, Griffin's on here?
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm out because he's a whiny bitch, right? Really? Yeah. And then another one, somebody tweeted at me like, you complain on every podcast, you know? And I thought to myself, do I? And I thought, you know what? Fuck you. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Because that's my brand, bitch. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Bitching with Griffin. Yeah. Bitching with Griffin, yeah. That's my brand, okay? So, I thought about it. I said, you know what? I'm just going to lean into it. I'm putting my foot in it. Can you imagine if someone said, like, Bill Burr complains too much? You're like, that's what he's good at. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah, but you're good at... When you complain... When you and I... I mean, who am I to talk? I complain about everything. When you and I complain, there's purpose. It's not just complaining just to complain.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'm just... I have a thing. You know whose fault this is? Stupid-ass Bobby. This is Bobby's fault. Everything is his fault. Yeah, because he'll come with his thing. You complained,
Starting point is 00:07:06 like the way he says it and then all those, all his like troll minions, you know what I mean? They start to be like, yeah, you complained. I was like, do you listen to Tiger Belly?
Starting point is 00:07:14 All he does is complain. He complains all the time, but all of a sudden, I'm in, I own complaining. But anyways, let me get back to my complaint. Bitching with Griffin. So it's like Clubhousehouse so you get a notification that like it'll be like
Starting point is 00:07:29 it's free by the way yeah you get a notification that like a discussion is going on so if you click that notification all of a sudden you pop into it and then now you're there you have to say something and then you're like oh i heard i did it i've done it twice now where i pop in by accident no no you just voice then someone goes goes, oh, hey, Eric Griffin. I'm like, oh, no. Just change your name on there to something else so they don't know it's you. It doesn't even matter.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I just don't want that. They need to change that. They should ask me, would you like to join? It's like how Zoom is like, do you want to be muted when you join the conversation or use video, right? If it says on Zoom, it goes, every time I join something, it doesn't automatically start the video.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I have to approve it. I set it up like that. So when I get into a Zoom, if I'm not ready to be on video, I don't want to be sitting there adjusting myself. And they're like, well, hey, we've been waiting 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You know what I mean? Like I want it to be blank so I can set up. I haven't used it though. Last night, my friend showed me, he showed me what the app looks like but i didn't really toy with it but it seems like it's it's it's it's it's supposed to be two people
Starting point is 00:08:30 having a private conversation that everyone gets to hear that's what it is right i have no idea uh i think that it's a but they offered a show i got offered to do stand-up on it i haven't done stand-up a couple months and i just am not in a rush to do it i don't know i have a little notepad next to my bed now i've been writing stuff to myself let me do i want to write this and then you'll come up with some premise and it'll just be like what yeah you know like i was thinking about this thing about like because who cares right you know so i was thinking about this, like, at what point did you realize your parents were dumb or that they didn't really know stuff? Yeah. And I remember for me what it was because my mom used to tell me to flush the toilet twice.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Twice. I've heard this before. My mom would be like, flush it again. And then I thought it wasn't to a point where I was like, this isn't sucking the smell down on the second flush. Like, bitch, you dumb. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I was like, oh, that's kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It clears the air. It clears the air, the water. It was like, that doesn't work. That's the moment where I thought, oh, my mom don't know science. Like, that's not scientifically. She's beautiful and smart, but just not in that category. Yeah, she don't know science. So I thought, like, then you get down the rabbit hole of, like, do our parents,
Starting point is 00:09:44 like, when do you realize you don't know science. So I thought like, then you get down a rabbit hole of like, do our parents, like, you know, when do you realize you don't know anything? What age do you think it is that you realize you might be smarter than your parents? Man. Well, you think you're smarter than your parents. Well, that's, no, no, no. When you turn like 13 or 14. When do you realize, when do you, what is the age where you go, not in general, but
Starting point is 00:10:02 I think it's your late 20s. That you find out there's some things you go i can't believe they don't know that yeah yeah yeah yeah or or you're or for me i realized that my mom comes from an era where just being blatantly racist is totally okay it's still okay today you know just like you realize some things about your parents like they don't know stuff you go like oh that's inappropriate like if they say something right i know yes where they say something you go i know you don't mean that the way that it like what it means you mean it the way what it used to mean well i kind of feel like what it used to mean is even worse than what it means now maybe you know what i mean maybe so
Starting point is 00:10:40 my mom said some stuff where i go oh you can't say that what did she say she'll say some stuff like and by the way i chalked this also up to the dementia right now. But still – It's Alzheimer's and dementia? Just dementia. Alzheimer's is the word. It's a countdown clock to that. Then that's a countdown clock to death, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:10:56 See, I'm too dumb to understand because I don't know that they're all – they're not mutually exclusive. But usually dementia leads to Alzheimer's, right? Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't mean you're going to get it. exclusive, but usually dementia leads to Alzheimer's, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what I... But it doesn't mean you're going to get it. It doesn't mean you're going to get it, but you usually do. You probably do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Some weird... So I don't know. Right. Yeah, but my mom's always said... There was this woman that she used to work with, so she still thinks... She remembers her as if... My mom thinks she just retired a week ago. Oh. You know, because of the, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she'll be like you know, this tamale eating Guatemalan bitch. You know. Dude. That's so funny. Don't let her say that. That's hilarious. On Facebook. Oh, just out loud to people? She's just, you know. So I had to
Starting point is 00:11:44 I know. That's just, you know. So I had to. I know. That's so funny to me. I had to. Especially if she used a tamale emoji or something. I made her private. She doesn't know she's not writing to anyone. Oh, she wouldn't know anymore. She doesn't even know.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So she's writing stuff into the ether. She's writing to the void. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like that kind of stuff. But my mom has said things like that. Just casually. Our parents used terms like towel head. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean yeah that's the kind of that's a term they would use yeah yeah you know and so you go you go oh man that's not you can't say that
Starting point is 00:12:16 anymore or you know so that's the kind of thing where you go you realize they're not as savvy about cultural and racial relations uh they they might not know things about money. They might say things like, ooh, I don't do mutual funds. You know what I mean? You start going like things about buying property or how they want to go about things. And so I think when you got into your late 20s, you get 27, 28, is when you're looking at your parents like, oh, man, I'm becoming a parent. I think it's the moment like, do you remember the moment,
Starting point is 00:12:47 maybe because your parents are great, where they're not a comfort anymore. You know that moment where they're just not like, you know? Well, I had to crack out of that shell early because I left. I literally said this today, this morning, to the old bag. I said, I was out going for a run, and I said, you know what's a real trip? I was saying how beautiful it is.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I was like, oh, my God, I'm running outside in February. You know what I mean? Like, it's 72. I was like, it's a great place. But I was saying, you know, I was thinking about L.A., and I said, man, I've been outside of Chicago for 19 years or whatever. And it just sunk in my soul. I was like, man, I've been gone for so long. You're not even from Chicago anymore. No, seriously. years or whatever and it just sunk in my soul i was like man i've been gone for so long you're
Starting point is 00:13:25 not even from chicago anymore no seriously so i had to just kind of like i learned that i think i learned early on that i was like i just got to be my own man too fast because they weren't like you can always come back oh it was never it wasn't like a they were measuring your room table this stuff like that or whatever they were gonna do you want any of this stuff we're throwing it all away no but it wasn't like it was never my parents also were always tough love anyway i mean you can tell when you know me it's like yeah i never was coddled it was never like oh it's okay it was always like you're gonna be fine you're gonna be fine that's that's a phrase my mom um my mom used to say all the time. And I told her one time that I didn't like it, but she used to say, it'll be okay. Like, shut up, who cares?
Starting point is 00:14:10 But sometimes you don't want to hear it's going to be okay. You want to hear like... Sometimes you want to be like, you don't see that bruise on my knee? It hurts. Yeah. But no, so the tough love thing and the whole like letting me fly free was kind of part of me having to like get away from the comfort zone because they were like, yeah, if you're going to go to California, go. The soft love thing and the whole letting me fly free was kind of part of me having to get away from the comfort zone.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Because they were like, yeah, if you're going to go to California, go. But did your parents, were your parents into corporal punishment? Did you get hit? Yeah, come on. You know that. Okay, okay. Duh, right? Yeah, look at me.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, so I remember. You can't not hit a redheaded child. But I remember the moment that that wasn't going to work anymore. Oh, the hitting? Yeah. Right, when you're like, I'm too big to get hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I remember the moment where I grabbed my mom by the shoulders. Yeah. And I. Oh, the hitting? Yeah. Right, when you're like, I'm too big to get hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the moment where I grabbed my mom
Starting point is 00:14:47 by the shoulders and I was like, Ma, don't do that. You know what I mean? I was like, calm down, calm down, all right? You know I can mess you up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:57 Like, Ma, you know? And so it was like... I don't want to be driving you to the hospital. I remember that and I remember her looking at me differently too. She looked at me like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 oh, there's a man in my house now. You know what I mean? Like, well, especially cause you're not a small guy. You're tall. You're a big guy. So like, that's also intimidating to parents. Like sometimes when my dad would get like, you know, we'd get into an argument and he would get like up in me.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I'm much bigger than them. I'm bigger than them. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So it feels weird feeling it. You're like, cause you're scared cause it's your father. Yeah. It is an emotional. But you're like, oh, I scared because it's your father. Yeah, there's an emotional.
Starting point is 00:15:25 But you're like, I'm also like, but I'm big and tougher than you. I can, I might. Dad, you need to. But my mom used to like, oh, my goodness. But I would get cracked real hard. We had a hallway in our apartment that like, it was, okay, so there was two doors at the end of a, so two hallways connected to each other and two doors at the end so two hallways
Starting point is 00:15:45 connected to each other and two doors at the end so you can literally run around in a circle so I used to run from my mom in a circle like a Benny Hill movie
Starting point is 00:15:53 yeah she would she literally would chase me with a belt and that's how I'd be like you know and so like but it gets to the point though like sometimes
Starting point is 00:16:00 the whooping would stop because we would both start laughing because it's so hilarious because she's chasing me but I would be laughing like ha ha ha you would both start laughing. Because she's chasing you. Because it's so hilarious. Because she's chasing me. But I would be laughing like, ha, ha, ha, you know, like thinking, okay, I hope she's not going to hit me again. And then she would say things like, there was a tree in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:16:16 She'd be like, go get a switch off that tree. You know what I mean? And then there was that one time we laughed again because the tree was cut down and she didn't know. So I came back in and I was like, oh, my God, the tree's gone. What am I going to do? down and she didn't know so i came back in and i was like oh my god the tree's gone what am i gonna do but anyway my point is there's a moment where you realize you go oh we're looking at our parents in a different way right and then for me it got to a point where i realized too i was like oh i'm gonna have to look after my my parents well right that's that's we all have to serve at some point right like to be you become the parent and all that stuff and i know you're going through it more we've talked talked a lot about it, actually,
Starting point is 00:16:45 about what your mom is going through and all that stuff, and you having to take care of her. What is wild to me is you're having to take care of someone who doesn't know you sometimes. Well, you know what? She's at a mild stage right now.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's still bad. And I don't know what's worse. I mean, it's like, do you want it to be where your parent doesn't know anything, doesn't know you? Or, like, how about, like, she knows you, but she thinks she's in Alaska. You know what I mean? It's like this weird, like, I'm talking and I'm thinking, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And then she'll say something and I'll be like, oh, no. So it's like, you know. And like I say, knock on wood, my stepfather, he's still doing great. How old is he? I don't even know how old he is. He's younger than you know, and like I say, knock on wood, my stepfather, he's still doing great. How old is he? I don't even know how old he is. He's younger than my mom, though. But he's, you know, I don't know if he's in great health, you know, because I always tell him to stop eating cookies. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, but come on, cookies. I know, right? It's like at some point, like my grandmother is 90 years old, and she's like, she's traveling during corona. She's like, you're're gonna tell me not to live now i'm gonna die yeah like it's leave me alone she's like i'll wear a mask and i'm getting on a plane to go see people yeah that's tough i mean they were just like my whole family was like what are you gonna say i know at this point and i lived 90 years well my parents moved to spain for like four years yeah when my when they got on the plane, I looked
Starting point is 00:18:06 at my parents and I looked at my mom and I had to say in the back of my head, I may never see her again. Yeah. Just because she's in her 70s, I don't know. Yeah. And so like... But you ended up going to Spain a few times. I know, but it was like, but still, I'm glad I had that thought in my head. Sure. Because it
Starting point is 00:18:21 prepared me more for what's happened because now I haven't seen my mom again. You get what I'm saying? Because it's not that person that left. And that's the toughest part because now I am glad I went to go visit my mom so many times. I am glad I had that experience because now I remember the last time that she was somewhat herself was when I left. A couple weeks later, she fell down. That accelerated the process. Did she hit her head?
Starting point is 00:18:52 I don't know if she hit her head, but I looked this up. When someone is in that range of where – because she was already having memory problems, so we already knew something was up. Right. But even when – like I said, I visit her for Christmas, and she says to me, I said, what's up? You know, because I could tell she was like, she goes, you know, I'm getting confused.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And she was depressed about that. Yeah. Because she doesn't want to be, that's, like, I know what she wants. Like, she don't want to be on machines. Right. You know what I mean? I know this about her. Nobody, I mean, I don't think anybody does.
Starting point is 00:19:20 But she's very, like, she hates feeling like, like, I know this, and the hard part is, if my mom was aware, like if it was an out-of-body experience and she had her faculties and she saw that she was this way, it would crush her. Right. I know this about my mom, right? So that was the last time we were together.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And then I'm telling my stepfather, I go, you know what, you need to go to the doctor. We need to go to the doctor. We need to go to the doctor. And then as we're talking about doing that, she went on a walk someplace and fell down. Just like tripped? Yeah, she probably tripped and fell, you know? Yeah. And then my college, she was someplace she wasn't supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:20:01 She didn't know where she was. And then it was like, and that was that. And now we're here at this point. Right. You know, that's when the whole thing about her grandmother started. She thinks her grandmother's alive.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You know, so she was calling me right after that being like, you know, her grandmother and her aunt who are both dead. So her aunt,
Starting point is 00:20:17 she thinks her aunt is visiting. When? Soon? No, no, no, no. When this was happening in Spain. She's still in Spain. So she's calling me from Spain being like,
Starting point is 00:20:24 Eric, I don't know where Auntie is. She went for a walk and she hasn't come back. And I'm like, you know, and I'm going like, uh-oh. So I get on the phone with Mike and we're like, let's get on a plane and come home. And I knew he was ready to come home anyway because he only moved there for her. She wanted to be adventurous and do things. And I think they enjoyed themselves because they went traveling all over the place.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You know what I mean? Because when you're in a place like that, there's so many places to go in Europe. Yeah, that's why it's so nice. Right. So again, I always felt like I lived, I enjoyed my mom. She helped me, raised me, did all these things for me. So now later in her life where she doesn't have to worry about money or anything, she's like, okay, I'm going to go do this. Selfishly, I could have been like, you can't
Starting point is 00:21:07 move to Spain. What are you talking about? But I thought, you know what? Let me let them do what they want to do and not stand in the way, just be supportive. But it's hard. Well, it's the same way that I don't know how my parents did it when I said I'm moving to California. It was 2,000 miles away. I know there's a piece of them. I was like, you really got to move that far? But they support. It's the same way. You support your mom and you want her to live out her life and not be like,
Starting point is 00:21:33 well, I want you here for me. But it's like at some point you have to just let people do what they want to do. Yeah, so I feel that way when I think about people like what you're saying about your grandma. Your grandma's 90. She had her time. She's like, you know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:21:46 This motherfucker lived. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, if she's like now, and then like imagine you've lived and you barely get to go out as it is because you're 90 years old, you know? And now the government's telling you like, yeah, you got to stay home.
Starting point is 00:21:58 You're like, no. When you live through wars, the government's like, there's a virus out there. You're like um i'll be okay yeah like i lived through the depression my my grandmother eats leftovers from like eight years ago like she's like my grandma used to cut mold off cheese like this is fine and bread bread too yeah don't throw that out i do that now because of my grandma just cut off the edge yeah i just did that rachel was tripping she was was like, and Rachel has like, she'll be like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:29 She wouldn't even want to take the trash out. She smells it and she'll be like, I love it. I think she's putting it on. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Eric, help. I know, I know, I know. The damsel in the trash.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah. No, I'll cut mold right off of stuff. I did the same thing. But actually, that's supposed to be okay anyway. Yeah, of course it is. It's just where it's centralized. Yeah, so. Also, a little bit of bacteria is fine.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The same people that say they don't like that stuff, they eat cheese. Cheese is mold. Thank you. Yeah, it's already curdled. It's mold. But she used to be like, she'd pull out a green block of cheddar cheese. Okay? The whole shit is green. Okay? Pull out a knife and just scoop cheese. Okay? The whole shit is green.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Okay? Pull out a knife and just scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop. There it is. Until it's not. Until it's, you know, like, oh. It's fine. You know, oh, man. What is that?
Starting point is 00:23:16 I bet you had it, though. Yeah. What are you supposed to do? Because if you didn't, you'd get a beating. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't remember having, we would go to my grandma's house over the holidays, and we call it pop. People say soda, but it's pop in the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And I never had pop at my grandmother's house that wasn't flat, never once. I never opened a pop that went ksss ever in my life, like for years as a kid. They were too old to tighten the – Yeah, well, also it's like you weren't drinking new pop. No, you were drinking old pop that's been around. I remember being a kid, staying at my grandma's house. And she wasn't my real grandma, but she was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:49 I called her my grandma. It was a weird relationship. You know, it's like being a kid, being born out of wedlock for what all the different, you know, you have all these weird relationships, you know? Right. But I remember thinking, oh, this woman comes from a different time.
Starting point is 00:24:05 That's the first time I experienced somebody being really old because I'm staying over there for a few days. And I said, I was like, oh, okay, well, she was like, yeah, you got to go to bed at 7. And I was like, okay, well, can I read? I want to read. You would read like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, those kind of books. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:22 She was like, oh, no, there's no reading. The lights are off at 7. And in my mind, I'm like, this old bitch. You know what I mean? She can't even listen, can't watch the TV. It was like this old, and it's the first time I was like, man, how did you grow up? Where did you come from? It was the first time I started thinking about like, oh, what's happening now?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Probably it wasn't like this for you. And like my generation, even though like I'm still older than you by 10 years, so my generation, I remember everything. I always say I'm the guinea pig generation because we had phone. So we see our phone. So we had 976 numbers. We had the first call waiting, three-way. All these things were happening.
Starting point is 00:25:08 You know what I mean? We had a computer. Then it was like, what is this? And then it just got better. I had a ColecoVision. I had the bullshit version of everything people are enjoying now. I had to live through the progression. I was the beta of all these things.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And so that's when you really notice, like, oh, man, people from the, like, so if I have this, like, what was happening to people that didn't have any of this stuff? For her generation. For her generation. You just think of a nightmare. Then you think of kids now. They're not going to even understand. Bless you. think of kids now, they're not going to even understand, bless you, not having a cell phone
Starting point is 00:25:46 or not understanding like, oh, well, social media is some kind of thing that everybody has. Right. Or even something as simple as taking a lot of pictures of themselves. Well, I thought about, when are you going to ever, I mean, look, look in your phone right now. Oh, dude, I already know. I have 10,000 plus.
Starting point is 00:26:01 What am I? And then, you know, Apple sucks about organizing it they know too right apple's photo thing is like a trash bin and every time you take a picture you just throw it in there it's not organized no it's trash and this is look i've got got 4700 photos in here i don't i got way more than that yeah but you know why because i dumped all the other ones okay so when i got my set the second time i got a new phone i was tired of being like the the cloud service the phone it was all photos and videos yeah and mostly videos take up all the space so the dude of the apple store was like bro just dump them on your computer into a drive and i was like oh right and then i
Starting point is 00:26:37 did and i thought well why do i keep any of these yeah what am i gonna look never gonna look at them when am i gonna look at this only when i'm thumbing through to find an old photo. The only thing, there should be a service where all your photos go into a cloud and they stay there. Then upon your death, then your family can look at them. That's smart. Because then your family would be like, oh, look at Andrew. Wow, a lot of dick pics. Are these all limp or was he hard in some of these? It's remarkably small. Because you know what's hilarious about Apple's service?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Is I can organize my friends more than I can organize me. Because you know they have that people option. No, I never use it. Oh, you got to use this option. What is it? It recognizes faces. Oh, I've seen that in the photos. I have a folder called, I have an Andrew one.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I just go, who is this? I go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I link it to your contact. Oh, that's Andrew. So then it just keeps organizing me. So I can go to Andrew and say, blah, blah, blah, all these pictures of you from wherever. And I go, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And now it's listening to us talk about it. I know. So now it knows. Good idea. So this is what I'm saying. So you look back at, you know, kids today are always going to assume that there's going to be a million pictures of them.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Dude, if I want to see a picture of myself at 10 years old, I've got to find some dusty-ass photo album. You know what I want to see a picture of myself at 10 years old, I got to find some dusty ass photo album. It's not the same. My dad's good for one of my dad's best friends sent me a photo that he had found in an old book of me and my sister. And he was like, check this out. Whatever, and making fun of me.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Because I was looking like a real dork. And I was like, wow, where are any of these pictures? I don't know. My mom has a baby book. Me and my sister have a baby book in my dad's like office. And that, if it wasn't for that album
Starting point is 00:28:11 of baby books, I don't know where else any other pictures of me are. So I, There's about 10 years where there isn't any photos of me. And then now your phone now is doing this thing
Starting point is 00:28:19 where remember this? And you just kind of go, oh yeah. Oh, I've seen that. When you swipe left and it pops, that's a trip. Or just on the... Actually, just on the...
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's what I'm saying. The... The front screen. It'll be like, remember this? Oh, see, I'll get them when I... I don't necessarily know if I like that. I mean, sometimes it's showing like... No, it's sometimes it's nice. Like, that show was canceled. You know what I mean? You know? Like... So much... I'm dying up here. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, I remember when I was working. That was, you know... What if it
Starting point is 00:28:44 said that? Remember when you were working, Eric? I know. working eric oh apple just teasing you been a long time since you had an audition in your calendar right you sure you still want to do this business listen apple no and honestly honestly no i don't want to do this business anymore the more i'm into it the more i'm like funny you say that though i mean i thought, though. I think we've even talked about this before, but it's like, what's happening right now in this past year, I realize I like being at home. I'm a homebody. I just wish I was
Starting point is 00:29:13 independently wealthy. If the lottery came in right now, not even $100 million, just give me like three. A couple. Give me a couple. Put that in the bank. Tell my guy, just make sure I have enough money to pay my bills. Yeah. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I would want to, what I say is this. I would rather do the podcasting thing. I don't want, this is what I love the most now. When I say Hollywood, I mean the rigmarole of like going to audition after audition after audition and this and this and playing the game and meeting the person and doing the thing and taking the meeting. Like that I don't like anymore because. I'm going to read you audition after audition and this and this and playing the game and meeting the person and doing the thing and taking the meeting and done. Like, that I don't like anymore because... I'm going to read you a text. You what? Because this is the story of my career.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But like this kind of stuff? No, this I want to do forever because this is the connective tissue I can finally have to people. This is the story of my career. So I did this audition. And I'm so tired of these like self-tape auditions. Oh, P.S. I haven't had one.
Starting point is 00:30:02 So thanks for rubbing it in. So this is like, I go to my man, hey, whatever happened to the audition I did? So this is like, I go to my man, hey, whatever happened to the audition I did? So this is, it was for Atypical, okay? What is that? Oh, the Netflix show.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, yeah, I know. I've seen it. He puts it in quotes. We adore Eric over here. I thought he did a great job. So, no, it's a no. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's a no. They ended up going with this other guy who works all the fucking time. Can we say his name? Yeah, Rizwan manji you know who that is yes this dude like he's booking all your jobs works okay you know what i mean but we remain huge fans like like i go i say the story of my life you know yeah so i so
Starting point is 00:30:40 now i text my manager i just go so have so have they already – I do an audition. I go, have they already – have they sent the we love him but yet? Yeah. We love Eric, but we decided to go another direction. Well, the problem I have with all that process, not to get too inside baseball for listeners, but like nine times out of ten, they've already chosen who they want. This is – So it's like why are we doing a dog and pony show then? Unless, of course,
Starting point is 00:31:06 the director... I gotta go into my complaint mode, but go on. I feel myself, you know what I mean? Bitching with Griffin, yeah. Unless the director really is, unless they really are open to the character kind of finding itself through the process, when it's something big,
Starting point is 00:31:22 usually, they know. I mean, this is a good, bad example. They knew they wanted you when we did I'm Dying Up Here Together. They knew they wanted me when we did I'm Dying Up Here Together. Yes, yes, yes. They put on a little bit of a show saying, well, we have to run them to the traditional process in the event that something doesn't work. At that point, though, in the testing process, I get it. But here's my problem, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Like, if you're going to send me an audition, make the shit meaty where what I'm doing on tape can make you go, oh, I like this. But sometimes I have this audition and I go, why am I doing this? Yeah, because you're saying, you're like... Like, you got 10 years of work you could be like, oh, you know, what he did on I'm Dying Up Here,
Starting point is 00:32:05 what he was doing on the four other shows he's been on. We can see him do this. We can see him doing this. Yes, it's so easy. So why don't we just make a choice? So you can have four people where you go, oh, we like what this guy did on that. We like what this guy did on that.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Right. Let's see which one we want for the look of whatever. Sure. It's hard because you don't want to think like that. You don't want to think you're above things. Yeah, but it's not being like that. You don't want to think you're above things. Yeah, but it's not being above it. You don't want to think you're better than things. Sometimes I just go, I feel like we're wasting all of our time.
Starting point is 00:32:31 That's what it is. That's what it is. Because I go, why are we wasting our time? I'm not me doing a self. You know how hard it is to get a good self-tape, man? It's impossible. It's like, come on. And then I'm reading with Rachel.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And then like, you know. Reading with your significant other is a nightmare. First of all. It's a nightmare. Now she thinks she's like, you know. Reading with your significant other is a nightmare. First of all. It's a nightmare. Now, she thinks she's fucking, you know. She's a casting director now. No, even worse. She thinks she's like, she's auditioning.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, she's really reading the lines, like heavily getting into it. You know what I mean? She's getting ready. Like, what you getting ready for? You reading an audition. Yo, what if she booked a job and you didn't? Who's reading behind the camera? We love her. She was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I have to deal with that. Sometimes I just go, give me something where I can really bite into this. This audition too, that one right there. They're like, he's a face they know. Let's just go. I go, don't tell me you looked at this audition and was like, oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm like, I can't stand that process. And I'm doing commercial auditions right now. This is even a bigger nightmare. Are they even shooting a lot right now? Yeah, they are. They got these like, they do their commercials. There's this app called Blue Gene. Blue Gene.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. It's like a casting app. So you go in, and then they're like, everybody's like, what? How do you? I can't hear. It's such a nightmare. Please turn your camera to the side. OK, the sides are in the chat.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I did this one the other day where it was for older people. They wanted an older look, I guess, or a sound. And these people, they didn't know what to do. Every single, these grandpas, you know, you know what I mean? They're just like, I don't see it, you know, click the chat, you know, I don't see it. So I just go, man, to go through all that process and then you get a no, or you get like, you just like, oh, but that's the business. Is it better than, it's better than sitting in the car
Starting point is 00:34:25 Sitting in traffic Going to a place To then get a no When your whole day Was centered around something It's almost easier To get a no in your house Sometimes I feel like
Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah even with those Like you go I remember doing this I remember doing an audition For this Matt LeBlanc show You know what I mean The man with the plan The man with the plan
Starting point is 00:34:41 You know what I mean Is that what it's called Or the other one Whatever Tim Allen has one Just like that Man on the moon Man of war Working man Working man plan. You know what I mean? Is that what it's called or the other one? Whatever. Tim Allen has one just like that. Man on the moon or man of war. Working man.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Working man. I don't know what it is. Man's man. You know, last man standing. That's what it is, right? Yeah, yeah. So I go, I do the audition. It was such, again, one page.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. Being like, whatever, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beat to the table read. Yeah. The lines are different. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I'm sitting next to a writer. People still laugh at that thing. I say, hey, what happened to all those funny lines I had from the thing? I booked a job off what I, you know. Yeah, well, they'll probably
Starting point is 00:35:10 come back, I don't know. They ain't coming back. Get to the table read before the shoot because it's a three camera. You know that little thing? Yeah. Again, lines gone, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:19 More lines gone. More lines gone. And the director says, Eric, you know, we don't want you to, don't be too big on, you know. And in my mind, I'm thinking, so the thing that you
Starting point is 00:35:29 booked me for. Correct. So the thing I did at the audition with all those lines I had. That you loved. That you loved because you hired me. You don't want me to do that. It's insane. Why did you hire me? Dude, then they take away lines to the point where,
Starting point is 00:35:46 let's say this camera's a person, and we have a scene where the original scene now is a back and forth, and everybody has lines. They've taken away all my lines, but I'm still in the blocking. So I'm standing here. What is this? Thumb in your ass. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:00 And then he's going through, you know. They're trying to figure out the lines. I knew. End of the day, I get a call. I don't know what happened. You know? I don't know what's going on. They cut you.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I got fired. What? Yeah. Okay? But they have to pay you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, I was like, oh, my God. You know, the reasoning was like, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I don't even want to say, but I knew what the deal was. And then I see, what's his face that's on the show? Nealon. Oh, Kevin, yeah. He's on the show. Yeah, yeah, he's been on there. And I see him at the concert. He goes, it happens almost every week, man.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Somebody gets fired. What do you think it is? You're too funny? People don't want to be upstage, man. I don't know what it was. A lot of people too funny? People don't want to be upstage, man. I don't know what it was. A lot of people on their own show do not want to be upstage. Okay, which is, you know, the reason why Seinfeld made a billion dollars, because he got upstaged every week.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Well, that was, see, that's the one thing I'll say about that show, Intelligent, was Jerry knew he wasn't the funniest. He was like, I'm going to put the funniest people on earth around me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These people that run, that have these shows. Because Jerry wasn't a good actor. He was surrounded by, Jason Alexander was
Starting point is 00:37:06 killing it every week. He was a genius. You know what I mean? What's her face? Julia Dreyfuss. Julia Dreyfuss. She's won three Emmys on three different shows.
Starting point is 00:37:15 He knew, he was like, yeah, I'm just going to be the guy. I'm going to bounce off these people. Yeah, he was smart. It's like, that's how you, anyways.
Starting point is 00:37:21 No, no, it's true because when people make shows now, they always want to be the star and you're like, why? You're the star. Don't no. It's true because when people make shows now, they always want to be the star and you're like, why? You're the star. Don't you know it's your name on the thing?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Just make other people look so good. Then you look incredible by way of. I don't have to. Whatever the reason was. And it's probably – It was that and probably it's like the role was for like an old black pastor too. And so people think – But you do.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Woo, woo, woo. You got it. pastor too. And you know, and so people do, woo, woo, woo. Yeah. But the thing is, it's like, I don't think sometimes I'm not black enough looking for the black that they want in Hollywood. They have, Eric, I'm sorry. You're just not black enough, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:37:56 they have a stereotypical type of black. Sure. That they like. They, they go, we want it to be this. I'm mixed where it could be anything you want. Yeah. They're not sure. It's confusing to people. They're like, they go, we want it to be this. I'm mixed where it could be anything you want. They're not sure.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It's confusing to people. They're like, well, we've written this for, you need to be more this. Whatever it might be. Some older white Jewish guy is like, I wrote this for a black black, not a soft black. Can you be a little more intimidating? It is funny the way that they do that
Starting point is 00:38:21 when they write characters and you see who they wrote it for and it's not them playing it. And it's like, well, then just give it to the person that they do that when they write characters and you see who they wrote it for and it's not them playing it. And it's like, well, then just give it to the person that you wrote it for. Like if I had Donnell in mind, right? Yeah. And I wrote Donnell Rawlings, a character on a show. But then I casted somebody like. Tom Papa.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. It's like you knew who you wanted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Write the voice that you know it's going to be. And if you don't know and want it open well then leave it open to interpretation but i don't love it when you do a thing and they go this is kind of how we saw it and you want to be like well then fucking get them to do it i always feel get them to do it sometimes i feel like you know so you go to audition and it might say we need you to be eric griffin type you know what i mean then i get there
Starting point is 00:39:00 and they're like you're not quite er Eric Griffin enough. I'm Eric Griffin. Griff it up, though. Griff it up. You know, so it's like I just, I don't know. Anyway, you go through that whole process and even still, you know, I book the job. Yeah. And I'm still, you know, for something that's like, I'm like, what? I did one day at a time, the new one, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:19 And I remember like. I don't know what that is. Oh, you did one day at a time. Oh, Netflix. The Netflix one. They redid the show. Yeah, they redid it. And it's like, you know. Gloria Kellner on Kellett. I know her. She's awesome. I know. Norman Lear is there. Oh, they did one day at a time. Oh, Netflix. The Netflix one. They redid the show. Yeah, they redid it, and it's like, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Gloria Kellner on Kellett. I know her. She's awesome. Norman Lear's there. Oh, yeah? You know what I mean? So I have one scene. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And it's at the top of the episode. Right. I got one scene, man. People don't understand. I always thought I wanted to be on a three-camera sitcom when I first got into the business. You and I used to joke about that. I thought, that's why I want to be the fat sitcom dad. You know?
Starting point is 00:39:46 I really thought that that's the thing. Until I did three-camera sitcoms. Man, you got to get, you there. There's a run-through. And then another run-through. There was a studio and a network. And the notes. The network notes and studio notes.
Starting point is 00:40:02 There was a Sony run-through. Right. There was a Norman Lear run-through. There was a Sony run-through. Right. There was a Norman Lear run-through. There was a Netflix run-through. Right. You know, the note sessions and all these things. And I was like, I got one seat. And you're talking 20 people in each of these things,
Starting point is 00:40:14 all with different opinions about what's going to happen. So 60 people get to voice up. And people still laughed. People still laughed at a time when we were taping that they didn't even imagine they were going to laugh. Sure, of course. So it was like this whole process. It was crazy. It was like I thought, oh, if I'm ever going to be on a sitcom, I got to make sure I'm one of the main characters.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Because you work more. Sure. When you're like a peripheral or guest star or something like that, they want you to be there all week right all week for 9 a.m for one a line you go through all these walkthroughs it was like so it was so different i i'm not complaining about it i'm saying i enjoyed the other shoot like the single cam better like yeah because even that has that's just a lot of waiting around but when when you get going, you're going right. Yeah. When you're shooting, you're shooting.
Starting point is 00:41:09 When you're shooting, you're shooting. It's not like you're not hanging out for a long time. And I think that there's more freedom when you're doing a single cam of the lines and the thing, depending on the depending on the set. But for the most part, there's a little bit more where my performance is what's going to make this what it is. Because on three-camera sitcoms, it's so much more about the writing. Totally. Like if a three-camera sitcom sucks, if it's not funny, that's all on the writers.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah, it's almost not on... Because it's so meticulous about... Well, they stick you to the word they want you they want the word they want to like it it's like then they had these like weird like note sessions where in between scenes somebody comes over and goes just a second andrew i'm gonna i'm we're we're discussing and then that person goes over to a little huddle and there's like you know five studio people there who are unfunny as fuck. Okay? All right?
Starting point is 00:42:08 They're just suit, unfunny suit. They're over there like, and the guy comes back and they say like, you know, you said we need you to maybe do this. Yeah. Do it this way. Yeah. Don't say and. Say the.
Starting point is 00:42:24 You're like, okay. Yeah the you're like okay you're just sitting there like I thought it was fine and then you also don't want to be and this is a problem that comics have you get on a set they've busted their ass these writers, editors
Starting point is 00:42:38 they've spent tons of time and they have this script that they go this is our shooting script and we're ready to go then we come in as fucking arrogant ass idiot comics and go, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:49 you know what would make this funnier? If I said it this way. Yeah. So. And then they're like, oh really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And you know what, sometimes, sometimes. It is, I mean it's funny. It is funny. I mean, we're laughing
Starting point is 00:43:03 because I'm. That's the hardest part for me. That's the hard part. I got kicked off a couple of, I did Tone Bell. Tone Bell, I've, I're laughing because I'm... That's the hardest part for me. That's the hard part. I got kicked off a couple of... I did Tone Bell. Tone Bell, I tried to do a couple of roles on his shows. Never worked. Well, his shows don't work, so...
Starting point is 00:43:15 Every time I try to do a... I'm just teasing Tone. No, he's not. He's being real. He stay working. I always tease him about that. Yeah, he's the most work-dude in Hollywood. I'm like, you want another sitcom? Yeah. I think he lives at ABC or NBC or whatever. He stay working. I always tease him about that. Yeah, he's the most worked-up in Hollywood. I'm like, you want another singer?
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah. I think he lives at ABC or NBC or whatever. Yeah, NBC. Whatever it is. No, I tried a few times. And every time I go in on those shows, I just don't – I'm not good with the rhythm. I have nothing against him. I just know I'm not good at it.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I just know I'm not good at it. I've tried. Something is missing. You put me in a single-camera world, I'm having – it's totally different for me. Yeah, it's different. I think it's just the nature of it. And then what happens, too, is on these three-camera sitcoms, when you're performing in front
Starting point is 00:43:52 of a live audience, and as a comic, now we're about to perform in front of a live audience. Totally. And it's like something changes. Because you want to sell it and get the laugh harder. You don't want to be the guy that says a line that's a comedic line, and it's like, well, that's why the cheese tasted bad.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And it's like smattering. You're like, no, you wanted to just. You know what's funny about when you're on a set like that? Because have you ever gone to a taping, one of your friends is, and you're just watching? Yeah. No, I've been to one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So I love like, you know, if you look at the writer's area, you always know who got a joke coming up because they're pacing. Yeah, they pay the most attention. Yeah, they're so ready. Pickles my joke, you know. And then if it bombs.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That's where the cheese tasted bad. Oh, fuck. Damn it. And then they go, he didn't say it right. We've been rehearsing all week. And then the other people are like, something's off about that. That's when they had the meeting. Yeah, yeah. They had a meeting and they go, that's when they fire your ass, by the way. I remember testing for, Tom Papa had this show
Starting point is 00:44:56 he was doing. A Netflix show? No, it was at CBS. I'm testing. Dude, we've talked so many times. I don't even know if we've even talked about this before, but anyway, the night before, he tells me, I get a call from him and he's like, you know, CBS, we've talked so many times, I don't even know if we've even talked about this before, but anyway, the night before, he tells me, I get a call from him, and he's like, you know, CBS likes grounded. You know, they really want you to be grounded.
Starting point is 00:45:11 It's one of these shits, man. And I'm thinking to myself, I have done five auditions for this show. You all have laughed at how I am doing it. And the night before the test, you want to tell me to do it completely different? Yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So I do it the way that, you know. Grounded. Grounded, whatever the hell that means. Low key. I leave the room. Producer comes running out. Eric, remember that note we gave you? We're going to have you go back in again.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Okay? Just forget all that. I say, oh, you mean, so you want me to do it the way I've been doing it? Do it the way that has gotten me right here? You know, you mean do that? Yeah. At that point, I'm all, I'm in my head. It just, boom, I didn't even get it.
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Starting point is 00:51:36 They're going to say that about me. They gave it to Eric Griffin. That's a good place to be when they say they gave it to you. They gave it to him. I wish they would give me things. I'm not... Nobody's giving me shit, man. Yeah, but no one's getting anything.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I think right now, nothing's happening. This guy that took that role on Atypical Guy. He's on everything, man. I'm going to have him on the podcast next week, actually. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:51:54 He's going to come by. You just replaced me right now. I just, I just put his, right, I just cut into you. He's there. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:52:02 oh, thank God. I had to get rid of him, man. No, but you know what, though? Of all the perils of all that stuff, I have a sickening sense that I know I love it so much because when you're in it, it is fun. So like... Yeah, yeah, that's true. All the stuff sucks.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Yeah, yeah. It's like stand-up. We talk about practice. That's what it is. Yeah, I don't like traveling. I don't like planes. I don't like hotels. I don't like all...
Starting point is 00:52:24 Auditioning sucks. Practice? That's what it is. Yeah, I don't like traveling. I don't like planes. I don't like hotels. Auditioning sucks. But when you're on stage, just like when you're shooting a show, there is nothing more fun. Yeah, that's true. You get to be a little kid in your little free bullshit world and do whatever you want. You're playing dress up, you know? But, you know, that's why part of it is funny
Starting point is 00:52:39 because Al Madrigal was just calling me right now. And it's funny because it just brings me back to how fun. Hey, what are you doing? What's going on? By the way, people don't know Al Madrigal was just calling me right now. And it's funny because it just brings me back to like how fun. What are you doing? What's going on? By the way, people don't know Al Madrigal, Al, Al Madrigal,
Starting point is 00:52:50 hilarious comedian, good dude. If you're friends with him, if he doesn't like you, it's the way he's the worst guy to have as an enemy. Yeah. Of all time. I've seen him light up people just,
Starting point is 00:53:00 just because they said one wrong thing to him. But I think back to how fun it was to do I'm Dying Up Here because what we're doing right now, we would just do every day. Yeah. Like my favorite moment of I'm Dying Up Here that I knew that this was going to be, what an experience this was going to be,
Starting point is 00:53:17 is you, me, and Al are standing in that hallway. Yeah. And they're rehearsing a scene. They're not even rehearsing a scene. They're not even rehearsing. And we're just having our normal dudes over 35 chilling. Melissa Leo comes over and scolds us like we're six years old. Like, don't talk during that.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Don't you dare be talking during the rehearsal. And we all looked at each other and had this really nice unspoken communication like, oh, bitch. But still, because we didn't say it out loud. No, well, because it was one of those
Starting point is 00:53:54 things where you're like, what am I going to argue with her? What am I going to tell her? The Oscar winner to like go fuck herself? No, we didn't do that. No. It was like,
Starting point is 00:54:00 but we had that look like, you need to, you know. The same look when your dad was, when your parents fronting on you and you're bigger than need to you know the same look when your dad was when your parents fronting on you and you're bigger than them
Starting point is 00:54:08 it's the same like I could you know what are we doing I'm so bigger than you man I knew it was gonna be fun and I remember like
Starting point is 00:54:14 Al and I are standing there and Clark Duke gets out of his car and he walks up with a Louis Vuitton bag and some Gucci his old school 911 Porsche you know know, the one with the fin that looks like it's in an 80s sitcom.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You know what I mean? He's such a little pretentious, you know. You know, and he's got his, like, you know, gazelle Gucci, whatever he has on. And then Al and I start ripping. Just roasting him, roasting him. And I saw the look on his face where he was like, uh-oh. You know what's so funny?
Starting point is 00:54:47 That's why. Because in an actor world, none of those actors are going to make fun of each other when they pull into the lot. It's never going to happen. Oh, that's... When there's comedians on, it's over. Those actor ones, they really got a rude awakening about dealing with us. Yeah, because it was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:54:59 They were like, wow, we can't do anything without getting made fun of. Sometimes Ari, she'd had enough. All the time. And she would be like, okay, guys. Yeah. Okay, that's enough. I would know. I'd be like, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:09 She right. We could go too far. But also, we were doing a comedy show. Well, it was a drama. But every time we... But it was about comedians. Comedians. Like, if it was based in right now, there'd be a scene where we'd be having a podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah. Seriously. You know what I mean? where we'd be having a podcast. Yeah. Seriously. You know what I mean? Walking around and talking on a podcast. And then it would be cut and there'd be something that would happen. Speaking of which, dude,
Starting point is 00:55:31 I just saw, I just saw Netflix inked a deal to do a show or a movie about the GameStop stock stuff. Already? That's what I said. I was like, it just happened. Already?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah, I think it was a movie. But they already got a guy to do it. They signed on some young, famous, good-looking actor to do it. They're jumping on stuff so fast. Netflix makes so much stuff that they have now a button, an icon, that just says, play something for me, that you can just hit it, and it's random shuffle. They're shuffling content.
Starting point is 00:56:03 That's how much shit they have, shows and movies. Well, they need it. Yeah, but it's unbelievable shuffle. They're shuffling content. That's how much shit they have. Shows and movies. Well, they need it. I mean, they have to. Yeah, but it's unbelievable how much it is. It's overwhelming. And by the way, sitting at home all the time now,
Starting point is 00:56:12 watching all these apps now, I feel like there's nothing on. Man. There's nothing on. I know exactly what you're saying. There's a million things and there's almost nothing to watch. But what's crazy, though,
Starting point is 00:56:23 is you could sit there for 30 minutes scrolling through Netflix going, there's nothing on this, even though things are zooming by. But you're like, I don't want to watch that. I want to watch that. I want to watch that. And if it's old properties, sometimes I want to watch an old movie. But for some reason, every time I'm like, oh, I love that movie,
Starting point is 00:56:43 I'll look it up on Netflix, and it's not there there or i can't stand starting to watch a show and not realize that this show is 10 years old oh i've done that a bunch like i got excited about this new show like you as i think it's called you're the one or you're the oh i watched it last one it's the one with the the kid from the the comic from the comic store the black kid with like all the hair he was dating a girl that was uh dating jeff ross oh i watched he was on this mtv show yeah are you the comic store, the black kid with all the hair, he was dating a girl that was dating Jeff Ross. Oh, I watched it. He was on this MTV show. Yeah, Are You the One?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Are You the One? Yeah, we watched it. I watched it. I started watching it, and I loved it. Yeah, it was hilarious. Then I looked at it, and I was like, but something feels old about this. Yeah. It feels like, then I looked at it, and I was like, oh, this was 2000, and I was like-
Starting point is 00:57:20 Six, I think. Damn it, Netflix. Yeah, it got me, too. It got me. I watched it. Then you look at it, and you look on MTV, and you go, oh, there's six seasons of this! Yeah, it got me, too. It got me. Then you look on MTV and you go, oh, there's six seasons of this. Yeah, these people are all dead.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Or they're trying to be comics. I did that same exact thing. But you know what? Now I've decided at night I'm not starting new shows. I don't want to do it anymore because I did it. And now stuff is open. So hopefully, I got a drink the other day. I went out starting new shows. I don't want to do it anymore because I did it. And now stuff is open, so hopefully... I got a drink the other day. I went out to the...
Starting point is 00:57:48 I haven't been to a restaurant yet. I'm trying to go get something to eat. Let's go. Yeah, we should do that. I went to the restaurant by the house. Dude, you can tell people have missed being out. I'm telling you, people were partying. We went to go have just a little bit something to eat,
Starting point is 00:58:02 and you're sitting outside in a parking lot, basically, and this table was so fucked up. It was like 12 people just drinking like the world was over. This woman gets up, and she's got like a chalice of beer, and these two women are walking with her, and they're walking. I thought they were going to have a cigarette around the corner, but they're apparently walking this woman to her car. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:58:23 She falls. I don't see this. She falls. The one woman see this. She falls. The one woman comes running back and gets one of the guys and is like, Barbara fell. He's like,
Starting point is 00:58:29 Barb fell? And I wanted to turn and be like, yeah, that bitch fell. She was fucked. She couldn't even stand up and they were taking her to her car. People are ready to go get fucking wild. I hope because of this,
Starting point is 00:58:39 people being so anxious to get back out that when the world opens up, it's going to be party time, man. I hope all like- We got to go to comedy club. Yeah, no, all that shit. I hope when the world opens up, it's going to be party time, man. We've got to go to comedy clubs! Yeah, no, all that shit. I hope all that stuff opens up, man. The first thing I want to do, I'm such a nerd, the first thing I want to do
Starting point is 00:58:52 when everything's bad, I want to go bowling bad. I miss bowling. I want to do karaoke. Yeah! Go get lit up and do karaoke in Koreatown. I don't even get drunk and I like going karaoke. Yeah, but you like watching me get drunk. That's fine. I'll get drunk in the room, do karaoke with you. Yeah, I want to go to those seedy little fun dive bar, shitty,
Starting point is 00:59:08 weird restaurants. I miss all of that stuff. I hope it's going to happen soon, man. I don't know if you ever watched Bill Maher's show. You ever watched Bill Maher? You ever watched Bill Maher? No, ever since he said the N-word, I just can't watch it anymore. You're the second... It's funny you say that because you're the second white guy to say that to me, and I was just like, shut up. No, no, you know I like that. I don't know. You know I like
Starting point is 00:59:24 the N-word. That just was dumb. I would say it if i could no he i don't watch i don't watch it because sometimes um sometimes he annoys the shit out of me and i just i i get that sometimes he's so annoying where i'm like oh god like it's just oh it's it's the way that people talk about fox news you know people like oh fox news Bill Maher's the same to me sometimes when I'm like... Oh, but I know what you're saying. To me, they're all the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:48 To me, they're all the same. It's like Rachel Maddow and like Sean Hannity. They're not different. Or Sean Hannity and Bill Maher. Don Lemon. They're all the same. They all like,
Starting point is 00:59:56 they don't realize that they're exactly the same. They're just speaking on the other side, but they're talking and doing it and the pretentiousness and the arrogance and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:04 But what happened to Bill on Walmart that you watched? Well, they had these two, a couple that were scientists, a scientific couple, and they were like evolutionary virus studying and they were talking about the, you know, and it freaked me out a little bit
Starting point is 01:00:20 just how they were talking about this and how it's been politicized and, you know, basically alluding that how like it's been politicized and you know basically alluding that like you know when trump called it the china virus you know he probably shouldn't have said it like that but he wasn't wrong i don't care who you are it made everyone laugh you could say it's insensitive and be like oh it's racial but when he said it i was like but he shouldn't have said it like that he shouldn't have been but it's like now that you know it's like very like the scientific world is very much like this was made in a lab.
Starting point is 01:00:49 It was. Even if their intention was to study viruses, but it was made in a lab, and it got out. Now, the question is, did it get out on purpose? Did it get out because somebody was being an idiot? Right. But it's like how usually viruses, when they mutate, they get weaker because the virus wants to live. But for some reason, this one generated in a lab seems to be getting worse.
Starting point is 01:01:08 And they made you feel like, well, what's going on? And they were very much like, look, people don't got the right information. And it's a year later. Now people are talking about this China lab stuff. Now people are saying it without – they can say it without being demonized. Right, right. Trump-ized. Trump-ized, yeah. Yeah, like it's just – it's like, yeah, they can say it without being demonized. Right, right. Trump-ized. Yeah, like, it's just, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:01:27 yeah, maybe you didn't like Trump. Okay. But that don't mean he was wrong all the time. Yeah, that's why everybody followed him on Twitter. It's like, you hated him so much, you loved him too. You know, it'd be like if somebody fell down in front of Hitler and he was like, oh, come here,
Starting point is 01:01:43 let me help you up. They're like, don't touch her, Hitler! You don't get to help people up. People act like Hitler never was like, oh, let me help you up. Hitler was known to help people up. That was his whole thing. I'm just saying. It's like, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:01:57 I get it, you don't like the guy. I get it, he did a lot of deplorable things. I get like, you know, but it was like, he actually did a couple of things, you know, a couple of deplorable things. I get like, you know, but it was like he actually like, he actually did a couple of things, you know, a couple of bills and things that he passed. Yeah. Whatever his intentions were, he actually did some stuff. You go, oh, Trump did that?
Starting point is 01:02:14 The greatest irony. Like criminal reform. He did a lot of criminal reform. He did a ton of it, yeah. A lot of people got let out of prison because of Trump. Right. His criminal reform, his intentions, whatever they may be, is fine. Like I saw this guy actually on Van Jones. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 He was talking about it. He was saying like Trump's intentions might have been – no, he wasn't even saying Trump. He was saying like when you got the left and the right – hit this other guy on there. It's interesting how he said it. Like the left might have it for whatever their intentions for doing something might be. They want to, let's say, have criminal reform. The right might be doing it because it saves money. Let's let people out of jail for dumb stuff
Starting point is 01:02:53 because we're paying money to keep them in jail. So let's get them out of jail. So these two places are coming from different places for the same result. That's how the two sides can work together. So what I'm saying is that's why, yeah, so maybe the dude result. Right. That's how the two sides can work together. Right. You know? So what I'm saying is, like, that's why, like, yeah, so maybe the dude had whatever intentions. But anyway, I just, you hear, not to get into all, let's not even talk about it. I'm just saying, whatever this, what's happening with COVID and the vaccines and all this stuff,
Starting point is 01:03:17 I hope we can get past it all and, like, stop making it political so we can, like, I just want to get back to work. I just want to be in a comedy club again where I can look out and see faces looking at me. You know, because right now we're going to have to already deal with, you know, they're going to have to wear a mask in a comedy club probably forever now. I think people will be
Starting point is 01:03:35 wearing masks for a long time. Yeah, but that's going to suck because now people can just heckle like this. You ain't shit, Tachino! Who said that? You ain't funny! Yeah, well pull down your mask and say that you know so it's gonna be we're gonna have to deal with that you know but i just i don't know man every time i see like you know i look at concert footage and i just think like how beautiful it is when you see an artist no matter who they are if you like them or not when you see them in concert
Starting point is 01:04:00 and you see all the people in that building just kind of like rocking out together you know for this one person i just go damn i we need that oh bad we we need that like that's who we are we're communal like yeah we are that's why we love that's why we love neighborhoods communities that's why we have these little cliques you know what i mean we we're obsessed with being in a thing with other people isolation is is a sick thing. Like, I watched that show. Oh, God. It's like, you had to survive. I talked about it before,
Starting point is 01:04:31 but they had to survive out in the middle of nowhere. Oh, there's a lot of those. I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, but the prize is a million dollars or whatever the name of the show. But the one woman was like... Alone and Afraid or something like that. Yeah, no, I think it was just called Alone.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It was just called Alone. Okay. And she was like, she's like, this is who I am. This is who I want to be. Away from people is where I want to be. I'm self was just called Alone. It was just called Alone. Okay. And she was like, she's like, this is who I am. This is who I want to be. Away from people is where I want to be. I'm self-sufficient, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And I was like, yeah, good for you. Also, mentally ill. Like, to not want to be around any sort of form of life. That's creepy to me. Well, sometimes I think people want to remove themselves from other people because they, it reminds me like you know rick glassman you know yeah you know rick's got his ocd and it's like it's very it's very
Starting point is 01:05:11 debilitating for him sometimes yeah yeah yeah you know but and rick i feel like he enjoys like being like away from people not because he likes being alone but it's easier yeah but he likes still being in the real world of you know i mean like i know but i feel like there's some people that they're not doing it for you know because they're like i'm i can i like sometimes it's just like damn it's hard to be around other people yeah it's hard to deal with other people and their nonsense it's hard to deal with people that look at you a certain way and sometimes it's best just to be like, ah, I'm just going to be like a, shut in like that fat guy at seven. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:50 And a serial killer has to come feed you SpaghettiOs to get your fat ass back in society. But I'll tell you what, well, what's also kind of hard is like now, especially because I'm going out, we're going out like a little bit more and there's stuff
Starting point is 01:06:05 happening. I'm running errands and all this stuff and life is picking back up again. And now I found if somebody maybe recognizes me, I can't be like... I'm not allowed to be publicly annoyed with stuff anymore. Now I'm like, oh, I got to be careful. If I'm annoyed
Starting point is 01:06:20 and someone's like, hey, man, and I'm in a shitty mood and I'm like, hey, and they're like, well, you're a fucking dick. But they don't know. That goes right to like, you know, there's a Reddit. But I thought about that the other day because some guy at CVS was. But that's part of the social contract you sign when you become a celebrity. When you go into the entertainment business.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'm not a fucking celebrity. It's just when they know when you're recognized. No, no, no, dude. You're a celebrity enough, OK? You're a celebrity enough that when somebody recognizes you, there is a responsibility not to be a complete dickhead. Yeah, no, you have to, yeah, even if
Starting point is 01:06:52 you're in a bad... Hard for both of us. Even if you're in a bad mood, that's the other thing, is like, you don't know what's going on in my day that, like, sometimes you're just having a bad day, and you just don't, I'm not being a, you're not being an, like, like... People have no boundaries. Yeah, no, and I think it's harder for, being you're not being an ant like um uh like uh you have no boundaries yeah no well and i think it's harder for did you see this woman with lebron you
Starting point is 01:07:09 watch this whole thing oh i love it hilarious tweeted at her yeah he tweeted at her like uh the courtside karen yeah courtside karen i died if you don't know i've no mask on yeah no no you got her mask down acting up but you know when i, man, it's funny you bring this up. Because who are the worst hecklers at comedy clubs? I mean. You can say it. You nervous? You nervous? White women.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Just women in general. White women, for sure. White women. You know you're right. Yeah. Like white women at the top of the female list. They're the tip top. But they are the worst hecklers.
Starting point is 01:07:43 No boundaries. Yeah, none. No decorum. Nope. No, just, they do and say and act like just funky as hell. And then when you clap back at them. Woo! Because they've started the shit.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Tears. Tears. Tears. They cry. And then the dude has to be like, it's fucked up, dude. You piece of shit. They're like, she yelled at me, though. She started all this shit.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah. Oh, my God. So then you have to have this. Oh, my God. TMZ picked up that story. You remember that thing where the lady tried to hit me? She didn't hit me. Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And so TMZ picks it up. Eric, we're running with the story that the heckler hit you. And it's like, no, she didn't hit me. It just looks like that from behind. Right. She didn't hit you, though. She didn't hit me. She was acting up, OK?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Acting up. I was going in, OK? By the way, all of these women that yell at clubs and start shit are always blacked out drunk always it's never been some sober couple having a good time it's not someone having a drink or two it's always some chick who's blacked out who probably doesn't even remember it far they go way too far they say all this stuff they get see i don't i. I don't think it's always blacked out. Oh, I think it's always drunk. To me, I always make fun of them because I'll be like, oh, I get it.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You're dressed up. You're beautiful. You're probably one of the prettiest chicks in this room right now. But everyone's looking at the weird guy. Right. So you need some attention right now. Yeah. So let me hit you with some attention right now.
Starting point is 01:09:01 That's what happened on the girl on the court side. She just wanted attention. By the way, she put up a video, and I clicked on it to look at who she was and all the stuff. And she's like, he was talking shit to my husband, da-da-da. And they look like, you know, the typical Miami. I know it's not Miami, but they look like this Miami. He's like an older dude, silver fox, spends money on shit that he thinks is going to make him feel young again. And she. Her. again. And she...
Starting point is 01:09:25 Her. Yeah. And her. It. Yeah. And she, by the way, she at some point says her age. And I looked at this woman. This is my biggest gripe with young rich people.
Starting point is 01:09:36 She was 25. Dude, this bitch looks 40. And not because I'm trying to make fun of her. It's because when they get so much shit done to their fucking face... Yeah, she did look... They look 40. 45 shit done to their fucking face, they look 45. You're like, bitch, you're 25. You know what's funny, though? That's funny is like, you know, it's funny how LeBron.
Starting point is 01:09:53 But by the way, let me say this. Go ahead. But the thing that pissed me off the most was, going back to how we started this, LeBron and all these other athletes, they have to continually be reserved, even though on a constant basis, people are saying the dumbest shit.
Starting point is 01:10:08 If you've ever been to a live sporting event, the amount of dumb shit this motherfucker, I mean, the amount of shit getting hurled at them. So for them to even just put up with it every single game, it's a thing that they've signed mentally. It's like, that's a part of this thing. But once in a while, it's nice to see LeBon be like shut up bitch shut the fuck up you know what it's nice to see that you know it's funny he said the way he's i saw this thing about him talking about it because he
Starting point is 01:10:35 goes he goes you know i don't know what happened with her but you know i was having a conversation amongst men you know what i mean like he was saying it in a way that it was like it was like yo because her husband was talking shit this is what i'm talking, he was saying it in a way that it was like, yo. Because her husband was talking shit. That's what I'm talking about. He was like, I was handling it. Because what you want to happen is they're walking around a corner by themselves, and they run into LeBron James. Different story.
Starting point is 01:10:57 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my point right there. Like, let's say they're just at Ralph's. You know what I mean? And they head into their car. And they walk around the corner. LeBron is looking at him.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I'll talk to you for a second. Yeah. Can we have a conversation? Yeah. Because I remember you sitting courtside acting like you own the team. Right. Can we have a talk now? He's going to be like, uh.
Starting point is 01:11:16 You know what I mean? That's the real problem right there. It's like sometimes not enough people have gotten smacked in the face. Yeah, no one gets... No one gets... Or just, you know, where you have a big, strong black dude like that put their hand on your shoulder like,
Starting point is 01:11:36 yo, I think you should chill. Because I could take you apart. It could be a whole different situation. Well, you need to go back to the Ron Artest days. Adam and I, you know we were going to the Clipper games. So we're playing, Russell Westbrook's playing. Adam and I are going in.
Starting point is 01:11:53 You suck, Russell! Dude, this dude turns, and he looks right at us. You know how intense that dude is if you watch basketball. I'm scared of him when I see him on TV He looked at us in a way that Adam and I both went like this Okay And we was looking at each other We're just playing man
Starting point is 01:12:11 One of the press guys said What did y'all say to Russell So I was thinking to myself The gall The balls on those people to think That there's no fence They're to think that there's no fence. They're on the floor. There's no fence.
Starting point is 01:12:29 These are gladiators out there. In Roman times, bitch, your ass wouldn't be like, hey. You wouldn't be yelling at some dude fighting a lion because he might throw that sword at you. You know what I mean? You had to be separated because these people are – so I get what you're saying. Guys like that, they always have to carry themselves in a certain way. They don't get any credit for that, by the way. Basketball players specifically.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Like football, the closest guy is not close at all. They barely can hear people. You know what I mean? Also, though, you're not talking to a football player like that. Of course not. There's something associated with a violent sport that you feel like, especially with CT. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:14 You're not sitting in the front row of a football game yelling at a football player as if, because what if LeBron said, let's take it outside? Yeah. Or just gets out and swings. He could have just walked over there. Right. He could have just smacked that dude in the face. What if LeBron went like this? take it outside? Yeah. Or just gets out and swings. He could have just walked over there. Right. He could have just smacked that dude in the face.
Starting point is 01:13:27 What if LeBron went like this? I got enough money. I've done it. I'm 36. Nike gave me a billion dollars. I got a billion. I got a company. I can smack this bitch in the face.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Let me go smack. No, no. He don't smack her. No, him. I'm saying the dude. He grabs the husband, and he just looks like, here's the husband. He looks at the wife like this. He just slowly beating him.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Just slowly beating him. What were you saying? Say that again. Say that again. Call me a bitch one more time. She would just be like. That's all you have to do. It's like I've seen.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Dude, how many times have you seen? I've seen fights break out at comedy shows. Oh, God. Because of women. Chattering. Chattering. Oh, yeah. And then the dude's got to step in and now there's a brawl oh yeah and i'm just like yo i've seen the store so many times people don't want to it's not and it's so funny it's like this isn't us trying to make a point about women no no exactly this is the truth is just put the
Starting point is 01:14:18 disclaimer out there yeah i know this ain't a sexist thing no no the truth is every time we're at shows comedy shows and something like that happens to me i know you said it's always a drunk chick because if it's a drunk dude usually the dude gets embarrassed enough that's exactly where he either shuts up his buddies like shut the fuck up mark everybody gets or they get him out because he's too fucked up like it's rare that it escalates to a point of like emotions right where women in clubs will just let it emotionally ride they don't they just don't care dudes kind of have this meter where they're like all their friends are shitting on him and the security is eventually like dude get the fuck out you're gone this chick in kentucky
Starting point is 01:15:00 she goes too far it's crazy they finally get her outside because they had to call the police. You know? So I'm talking to the cop and she's over there. Now she's crying. They weren't picking up on me. And I was like, are you kidding me? And I'm sure she talked first,
Starting point is 01:15:13 didn't she? Oh my. Of course. She yells some shit out at you and then you say something back. Wouldn't stop. Right. Wouldn't stop.
Starting point is 01:15:20 You're not going to win. I have a mic and it's amplified. You're not going to beat me in that battle. Right. It's just never going to happen. Why have a mic and it's amplified. You're not going to beat me in that battle. It's just never going to happen. Why did you say such mean stuff? And then the cop says, do you want to press charges? And I said to him, let's just pretend like I'm pressing charges.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Oh, really? Yeah. So I said, I'm going to flail my arms and pointed her like, I'm talking about her right now. And then I was like, I just, you know. So I was like, yeah, she did now. You know? Yeah. And then I was like, I just, you know. So I was like, yeah, she did this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:50 I'm going to arrest her. And then I was just like, it don't matter. Because then I become the punk. Yeah, but you don't need to. It's just not worth it. But, like, it's part of this culture that, like, I hope when we return doesn't exist anymore. It will. It has to.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Shut up, dude. What are you talking about? Of course it doesn't exist. I know. It's still happening now. Now it's going to be even worse. People are getting heckled online. Now it's going to be like, I was at a show last night,
Starting point is 01:16:14 and Andrew Santino said something to a female audience member. Right. But it's going to be like that now, where now you have to be on your P's and Q's. Well, what I do, dude, what I always did before, I avoided those people relentlessly. When I was a young comic, I used to take them on all the time. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:16:28 And honestly, dude, in the past couple of years, I don't hear or see you to a point where it's almost maniacal. Like, I can feel them being like, what the fuck? Like, I've skipped over what they've said three times and I'll just keep going with my act
Starting point is 01:16:43 to the point where you can feel them drain into nothing. I talked to my therapist about it back when I was going regularly and I was like, I don't know, I get so angry and I thought part of it is because I'm doing this thing, I'm doing my act, something I've
Starting point is 01:17:00 worked on and cultivated. Something I care about. I've made you believe that I'm coming up with this at the top of my head, but no, this is scripted. I'm, I'm, you know, that's part of my performance. It's a credit to me actually, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like trying, and then like, you're interrupting me with some nonsense. And so I used to let that like, oh man, it would be a fire in my soul that I'd be like, I, and I would be like, I remember I was in Texas early on. I'd say this girl, I was like, you need to shut up or you're going to be outside crying.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Okay? Just like that girl in Kentucky. Okay. Sure enough, and sure enough, she storms out after me telling her off. And the security guard's like, bro, she was outside crying. You know what I mean? What have you said to her? And then I started to realize, oh, then it becomes, then it's on me.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Then you're the bad guy. Then I'm the bad guy. Then I'm the bad guy. And I am the bad guy. Right. You know, because this is why. This is why. And this is me scolding myself right now about this. We're like kung fu experts with our tongue, okay?
Starting point is 01:17:56 And I'm not talking about. Just kidding. But we're, so like, if I know kung fu and I'm at a bar, and a drunk guy starts acting up, and I beat your ass, that's on me. It's on you. Because I'm trained. I should know better. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:12 It's the same thing verbally. You're trained. I'm going to destroy you. It's not going to be hard. I know you think you're funny. You're not going to – because I'm a kamikaze about it. I'll take us all down. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:25 You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, it's like, you want to call me fat? Okay, yeah, well, this fat guy is about to, you know, and I don't care. I'm going to take it all in.
Starting point is 01:18:31 I'm like Eminem in 8 Mile. I am from the ghetto. I am, you know what I mean? You're not going to beat me in this. Right, right. So I just, you know, and I realized, well, then you see this person
Starting point is 01:18:41 and they're crying because of the words that you said. They're crying because of like, this happened to me at Trippin' on Tuesday at the comedy store. This chick, she's going in. Tell them what Trippin' on Tuesday is. See, you so racist that you just said, let them know about the black show that you did. I'm kidding. Trippin' on Tuesday is the black show.
Starting point is 01:19:02 It was, okay. A historic show. These two, three girls, they're sitting in the front row, and they starting in, you know? And I was like, I ain't having it today. So then I just started, you know, I was like, I just was saying all these things. Then this one girl, she really is taking it personal.
Starting point is 01:19:17 She takes one step, and she's on the stage. Oh, shit. And she's standing next to me like this. You know, I got the mic in my hand. I look, security's laughing. Yeah, on the stage. Oh, shit. And she's standing next to me like this. I got the mic in my hand. I look. Security is laughing. Yeah, at the store. Security is laughing.
Starting point is 01:19:30 But they had real security. Yeah. He's like, oh. And I'm thinking to myself, please come get this. What am I going to do? What if she hits me? Yeah. What, am I hitting her?
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah, you hit her back. You know what I mean? And I'm still making jokes. I'm trying to keep it like, you know? Right. And it was crazy. It turns into a whole thing. It's one of those moments where you go, oh, man, did you see Griffin?
Starting point is 01:19:49 People think it's funny. But afterwards, the girl wouldn't leave. She stayed. She sat there with her friends. In the front row. In the front row until everyone left. And I peeked through the window, and I saw her face. And I knew it was like she was completely embarrassed
Starting point is 01:20:05 and completely like and I thought to myself oh I went too far yeah it wasn't worth that no it's not I mean it's not worth because you're trained and you should have known that I should have known you shouldn't used all your power I could have handled it in a way that I could have shut it down and she would think it's funny and I think it funny, and we just let it go. But there's this thing that you get in touch with. And so I'm trying to work on, like, let me calm down. You know what I mean? So more recently, I've tried not to be like that. It's like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:20:39 It's a skill. It's a skill to let things roll off your shoulder. Yeah, but I see people that do it, and I think it comes along with time. I think the longer you do a thing, you're a lot more apt to just learn to let things go. Sometimes you just get in the mood. I've seen, man, I've seen Rogan. I've seen Rogan one
Starting point is 01:20:55 night at the comedy store. Just crack. Just crack, you know? And I just, you know, you just go, and a dude like that, cracking, it's like, you know what I mean? I mean, that's what I want to see. I'm like, do it! Yeah, yeah. Go kill everybody. Is he going to kill this whole front row? Just fights the whole audience. That's what I want to see.
Starting point is 01:21:13 That's what I want to see. It's like I said to him on his podcast one time, that time I was on it. I said, you know, I go, what's the practical use of jiu-jitsu? And he says, well, if we were in a fight, I would kill you. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think to myself, does he mean that? You know what I mean? And I have to think to myself, does he mean that?
Starting point is 01:21:26 You know what I mean? He does. But anyway, he's like, he got a way about him. So I go, even the most zen, weed-smoking, philosophical-type person, we snap, especially if we're on stage every single night. You're asking me to keep my cool for 365 days of the year. So hard. Because the one night I'm not is the only one they're going to remember.
Starting point is 01:21:49 It's the one they'll see. It's the one they'll see, especially with just stupid internet right now. I know. Somebody's recording in the back, and I go, check out Griffin calling this chick a cunt or whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. It'll be like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Unless you're crazy, and then you get away with it. Unless you're like Brian Holtzman. He can just do it, and no unless you're somebody unless you're crazy and then you get away with it unless you're like Brian Holtzman he can just do it and no one says anything if you're crazy enough you're allowed to get away with anything
Starting point is 01:22:09 that's the best part you know you're too human that's your problem that's I have too much empathy yeah that's your problem I wish I was a soulless monster
Starting point is 01:22:17 sometimes yeah if you were bat shit it wouldn't matter I'd probably be more famous you know what I mean that's gonna be that's gonna be in your book
Starting point is 01:22:24 if I was more of a soulless monster I would've been famous yeah complaining with Griffin bitching with Griffin You know what I mean? That's going to be in your book. Yeah, my book. If I was more of a soulless monster, I would have been famous. That's going to be called Complaining with Griffin. Bitching with Griffin. You know, it's like I remember one time at the comedy store, and this is like a story about Jeff Scott. I remember this. There was a girl in the car.
Starting point is 01:22:35 She kept going. She kept going. Not even just with me. She kept going. And I said to her, you know, I'm like a parking meter, right? A parking attendant right now. And I'm like, I'm not trying to call you a cunt. I said this. I'm not trying to do that. But it's like a parking meter right a parking attendant right now and I'm like I'm like I'm not trying to call you a cunt I said this I'm not trying to do that but it's like a parking person I'm telling
Starting point is 01:22:49 you you can't park here right you're gonna get a ticket you're gonna get a ticket you're gonna get a ticket she kept going you can't park here you know and then she kept going I was like you but the way I set it up the whole crowd loved it because it was like you know what I mean and Jeff Scott came up to me afterwards he just loved it because it was like, you know what I mean? And Jeff Scott came up to me afterwards. He just loved it. He just said, oh, I love the way you set it up with the parking. And you told her.
Starting point is 01:23:12 She did it. He was like on my side. You know what I mean? Bless him. I didn't go to his thing. They had a thing for him. I did it online. I don't like those kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:23:20 So I just, I didn't. I think I did my own thing for him on my web podcast. But I just kind of like, I don't. I did my own thing for him on my web podcast but I just kind of like I don't I did it online and then late one night I drove I wanted to get out of the house sometimes I take drives at night
Starting point is 01:23:31 I just get out of the house and we took a drive down to the store because I hadn't been over near there in a long time and it was just so weird
Starting point is 01:23:39 Hollywood looks so different now half the stuff is gone or shut down but we just went back and sat and looked at the vigil for I don't know like an hour or something like that it was weird it was also weird seeing that building that i'm not in anymore it's like a second home it's like my it's
Starting point is 01:23:52 like my uh i have no relativity to this because i never had like a beach house or anything secondary you know what i mean but like to me that was like a beach. That to me was like, that's my vacation house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Whatever that means to people, when I would just drive by it on my nights off, if I'm going to dinner, I'm always like, I live there. That's my other. So it's weird to drive by it now and see it.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I'm just prepared for whatever. I'm prepared for the Shore family sold the place, and it's now going to be a... I think about that all the time. It's going to be a Soho house. It'll be a... Yeah, well, it'll probably be like... It'll just get turned into a big coffee shop. A fucking 9,000 square foot coffee shop.
Starting point is 01:24:35 They need to just turn it into a comedy museum anyway. Yeah, then we'd actually make some money from that place. They would charge them and then they'd give us some money. I know, something like that. All right, Griff, I love you Something like that. All right, Griff. I love you. Thank you. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 01:24:49 You know, we end the episode one word or one phrase. You've got to look into the camera when I get off. Whatever you say is going to end the episode, so take us home. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I have nothing. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful.
Starting point is 01:25:14 You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

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