Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Fleccas

Episode Date: September 20, 2019

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the whiskey seventy-five dollars for the horse gingers are hell no this whiskey is excellent ginger i like gingers welcome back to whiskey ginger my guest today is one of my favorite people on earth i say that for all my guests but i mean it once again today it's fleckis baby how are you man good good good good thanks for being here we've never met this is the first time five minutes ago we met five i love that you came in and you peed and you didn't flush which is an interesting move but you know whatever dude you do what you do i get it good for the smells yeah it's important to me to feel comfortable right when i get here aromatics yeah i get it um okay so i want to explain to the audience um a bunch

of different things before i even get started because we don't know each other at all. I know you through YouTube. If you will link all that stuff, but go to Fleckus Talks is a YouTube show that you have. And correct me if I'm wrong about anything. Like, feel free to go. That's not that's not true, because that's why I want you here. Genuinely is I find it fascinating in this day and age. You live in L.A.

Live in L. I live in LA. You are, what's the best way to formulate this without sounding like a fucking idiot? You're a, for lack of a better term, conservative-ish YouTube man on the street show. Is that what it is? Yeah, pretty much. Ish, right? Give or take?

I'm like, I'm a trump supporter for sure and i think kind of like when trump got elected he rebranded the right a little bit right so maybe conservative like the only word we could use for it now but it's like a trump republican kind of okay so here's my here's my genuine interest in in why i wanted to talk to you um a i'm a comedy fan first more anything else. I'm a stand-up comic. I've been doing it for fucking 13 years. And, like, this is what I love is comedy. And your stuff is very comedic in nature, right? Your approach is always comedic.

And I want to know, like, your history and your past and how you got to here. Because being a conservative, again, I don't want to speak for you, but being a Trump supporter that you are in Los Angeles, I can only imagine comes with nothing but baggage and shit, right? Yeah, it's not easy. When I first made my first video in 2017, people were like, dude, you can't make this.

You're never going to work again. And I moved out here five years ago to be a comedian, writer, showrunner. I had no idea what I wanted to be, but I knew I wanted to be something creative in LA. And I was sending my scripts around around getting all the meetings i could i wrote a musical comedy musical john benet ramsey the musical was hilarious um but then no one really you know i never really had any opportunities and then i was into politics a little bit like before this like i was an obama supporter in college i graduated college 2012 so i saw him get elected basically twice, I was an Obama supporter in college. I graduated college 2012, so I saw him get elected basically twice.

And I was an Obama supporter, hope change, first black president. I'm like, cool, this is our guy. And I kind of realized with Trump that I never really understood politics policy-wise and what's actually going on. I was participating more in, like, identity politics. And, like, just being like, oh, yeah, like, you know, the way he sounds great and he really cares about the people. I'm voting for that guy. And it's like you've got to kind of look into it more than that. So that's kind of how I got into politics.

I used to work in, like, finance in New York. I had a Wall Street job. What? Where are you from originally? Long Island originally. Okay, so a New York guy, born and raised. Where'd you go to college? I went to Dartmouth.

I played football there. Very, very good school. What would you play? Judging by your size, you were a kicker. Yeah, exactly. I was the field. They just ran around me. I was offensive lineman my whole life.

I'm one of three boys. We all played college football. I had a very strict mom growing up. She told us we can only go to Duke, Stanford, or the Ivy League, or we're not going to go to college. Wow. And did you come from some money, or was it like, we'll pay for it or you got to get a scholarship it was it was get a scholarship but we'll pay for it too it's probably like upper middle class like my parents

um are the uh like my mom's parents are immigrants came from nothing and she had worked her way up in finance herself my dad kind of yeah came from nothing was like painting houses when he was younger and got into finance too so when you say immigrants where are they from um so on my mom's side it's from italy and sicily and my dad's side it's from england and then england again but through from poland originally are either your parents born outside of the united states or no no they're both born in here do you know what flag that is over there uh croatia that's a sicilian flag my friend that's sicilian yeah i'm sicilian oh hell yeah santinoino. Very nice. Yes, my father.

Never crossed the Sicilians. No, no, no, don't fuck, we don't fuck around. It's a tiny little island, dude. We'll kill you, we'll kill you. No one's gonna come find us down there. So, New York, then you got out of college after playing football. Pro wasn't a thing. Pro wasn't a thing.

So then you went right into finance. Right into finance. Downtown, in the heart of it all. Yeah. That's fucking, where'd you live when you were living in New York? West Village. Ooh, fun. Yeah, I spent all my money on rent.

Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah, it's absurd. There were times where I have like a direct deposit at midnight on Friday morning or Thursday late night or whatever you want to look at it. And I would be at a bar sometimes with like not enough money to close my tab on Thursday at like 10 p.m. And I'd have to wait two hours

until the direct deposit hit so I could close my tab and go home. That's like Wolf of Wall Street shit. It was really a fun time. I'd be entertaining clients. I'm like, let's do another round. I don't want to get out of here. I'm like, let's stay another hour. Did you get into the coke game a little bit? Did you do coke? Not really. No, it was around though. It's heavy, right? Very heavy. I got in the nightclub scene a little bit. I had an older brother and we were going into the best clubs in new york every week and best tables it was really like a fun fun time fuck yeah and so then you were like fuck this i'm moving to la um now at this point in your life were you uh you were still i guess you know again terms but were you still a democrat or when you were living in new york you were kind

of under the democrat yeah umbrella or whatever you want to call it? Yeah, I would say I was a Democrat. I didn't follow the politics, though. I just always thought, like, oh, politics is so much. Like, once you open that Pandora's box, like, you have to follow it every day. It is kind of true, though. You have to be deep inside of it if you want to continue it. If you want to have intellectual conversations about it, you know, I find that anybody that's a part of it has to be constantly digging inside of

it like it's it's a it's a a never-ending research uh light it turns life into research like you have to keep doing it otherwise well otherwise you don't know what the fuck you're talking about exactly you know exactly so i was one of the people i didn't know what they were talking about but i was like oh yeah like politics you know it's like the racist versus the not racist like i'm not an old rich white christian guy who's racist so i'm a democrat i'm like for the people i really had no idea what i was talking about never looked into it um you kind of follow the terms that's getting pushed around right now where they say like if you are a republican you're automatically a racist right that's kind of the terminology that even more now it's in the zeitgeist of society people are like republicans

are racist it's interesting not i want to finish your story, and then I'll give you my whole side. So keep going. So then you moved here, and everything changed? Yeah, I was in a promotion meeting at City. City Group was where I worked. I was in a promotion meeting to go to Associate. It would have been a nice pay increase too. And I said, hey, I'm actually going to move to LA.

I want to be a comedian. I want to leave. And I was going to give you guys two weeks. And they started laughing. So I was like, all right. I want to be a comedian. I want to leave. And I was going to give you guys two weeks. And they started laughing. So I was like, all right. Pretty funny so far. Yeah, landed it. Yeah.

And then they're like, what are you doing? You're crazy. You're the only person leaving, except for the kid going to Harvard Business School. There's no reason to do this. That makes no sense. You can't turn this down. No one has a job right now. And I was just like, no, I'm doing it.

And then I wrote. So basically, they were like,, no, I'm doing it. And then I wrote, so basically they were like, all right, you're voluntarily leaving. You're going to get zero to $5,000 as your final bonus because you're leaving the company. And I was like, that's fine. I understand. And I actually wrote a really nice letter, email to everyone in the company, like obnoxiously everyone in the company. There's like a hundred thousand people that work at Citi. And I wrote like pretty much to every group, all in the United States, the the ceo everyone i wrote a nice letter about like the experience i had what i learned how it was so great great friends want to do something more

creative hope you understand and then i'm pretty sure that had something to do with it because i got a big bonus from that got like 45 grand when i left damn so they yeah so that that was kind of like their way of saying good luck yeah exactly, exactly. Sounds like a nice way. See, thanks can be okay. So you took that money, you moved out here, and it's been five years now. And for people that don't know, which is a lot of people, two things I should say. When I saw your videos for the first couple of times, I was like, oh, this is interesting. You're going into the fucking heart. Like you were going right into the cage.

Like you would go to, you know, the pride parade and ask questions or you'd go to an anti-Trump rally or the women's march or whatever, what have you, you know? And so you're walking as a quote-unquote Republican conservative Trump supporter, whatever label we want to throw on it these days, into a staunchly left, hardcore left world, whatever, universe, whatever we want to say that is. And from my perspective, all I saw you do was you kind of are questioning people's motives slash beliefs slash reasoning, I guess. It's less that you're

preaching that you want people to love Trump and more that you're interested in knowing why they hate him so much, which is, is a reason that I'm interested in you. And I was like, I want, you know, like I'm not a big Trump fan. It's, it's not, that's, he's not my shit. Um, but I have a multitude of reasons. You know what I mean? It's, this is a diatribe I don't want to fucking get into for the longest time. But, but also, um, I come from a Midwest conservative background, so I have a lot of conservatism as my family. And I see both sides of the coin. You know, for me, it's unfortunate to be labeled a libertarian or whatever you want to call it. But I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't associate with either party. I think the whole country is basically.

Yeah. I think that's the thing that most people don't really... All we hear about on the news is hardcore left and hardcore right, right? As if nobody else exists. I find myself somewhere balanced in the middle where I see a lot of good in some things that liberal agendas push out and I see a lot of bad in it as well and vice versa. I see a lot of good in conservative agendas and a lot of bad in certain areas, right? So I love what you did and I love what you do because politics isn't my game. I'm a fucking stand-up. I talk shit about me and my world and I don't really get into politics.

But what you do is take comedy to kind of a world of false seriousness. I mean everyone is taking themselves serious at these things and then you talk to them and you're like, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. It's fascinating. So is that the impetus for The Sp the wooden spoon the wooden spoon you'll appreciate this too because you have some italian background but i have an italian mom yeah and she used to threaten me with a spoon i actually shit out of us with a fucking spoon that's what you did say threatened because she's like you can't tell everyone i used to hit you with this food i'll say my parents beat the shit out of me i'll say it my my fucking my mom knows. There's no hiding. My dad's hand, first of all,

I don't know why dad's hands are the size of baseball mitts, but I would get murked on the back of my fucking head and it would shake your core. Like, I would get hit so hard that like your toes would hurt. Do you know what I mean?

Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck, yeah. Anyway. They made you a good guy for it. Yes, so the spoon taught you lessons. And the spoon, and also the thing is,

I think right now everyone thinks that the media has to come from the top down. And it's basically getting pissed on us from CNN, MSNBC, Fox. The establishment media on both sides is trying to convince everyone that we're all far left, we're all far right. We're all Nazis, we're all socialist open border psychos. And realistically, like you, pretty much people are in the middle. Like, yeah, there's some truth to both sides. That's why my recent videos I've been trying to do Trump's not that bad that's all yeah that was that was a new thing

that i saw you do that bad you know not to graze over but what you do what what what fleckis does is he interviews people with a um an h4n recorder and a fucking wooden spoon a ladle attached to it uh as kind of like a faux handle because for people that don't know the recorder is about this big you can google it uh you know it's people that don't know, the recorder is about this big. You can Google it. It's about, I don't know, six inches tall and three inches wide. And instead of just interviewing with the physical recording device, you put a spoon on it as well, which makes it a little bit more intimate

and a little road mic. Yes, it's very funny to me. But what I find wild is the conversations that you get into about people who hate trump and i didn't know you truth be told i didn't know you were a trump so i didn't know you were a trump guy i just thought you were um a conservative interested in why these people are anti-trump which i guess maybe you toe the line very well yeah i try to keep it neutral because you don't try to incite i think a lot of problem a lot of times today like people are inciting um and trying

to like so clearly provoke and in your instance what i've seen you do very well um and i've not watched all your material obviously that's fucking absurd but from what i've seen um you do a good job at like planting a seed and being like okay let well, let's talk about why this is the way it is. Right. Like, like, like, um, like louder with Crowder, Steven Crowder, he seems to be, he's very, very, uh, powerfully conservative in the, in the idea that I think he is, he's hard to sway. Uh, I feel like you might be a little bit, uh, more loose and fun. Crowder seems to be so grounded. It's like, he, you know, know you can't he doesn't want to hear anything else and I feel like a lot of times when you're interviewing people you're really interested in their perspective less so than trying to prove them wrong exactly I mean that's kind of the gimmick and like the way I'm the why I've done this basically is because I think the

left the progressive left has gone so far left that the new right is the center right and if you're on the left, I think the problem that we're looking at when it comes to politics, we're framing it in a way where it's like left versus right. But the left would include liberals and leftists. But if you start asking some questions, there is a huge difference between liberal and leftist. That's why I do like the interviews where it's like, if you're on the right and you see the crazy people saying Donald Trump is worse than Hitler, then you're like, oh, this is funny. These people are crazy. But if you're on the left if you're a progressive you have to

kind of defend that person and be like no they're right you're insane and if you're a liberal or you're in the center and you're normal and you're watching that you're like damn that's embarrassing and maybe if you're apolitical damn that's embarrassing i'm not that chick maybe i'm not him either but i'm definitely not that chick saying Donald Trump's worse than Hitler. And that step away from the progressive mob, like that disavowing of the progressive mob is enough to make you not progressive enough for the mob. And now you're into the right. Now you're right wing. Right, right. So people are getting pushed into the right just because.

I'm like nudging them nicely where I'm not like, hey, Trump's great. I'm literally like, hey, Trump's not that bad. Do you think like having six million new jobs since he took office is good? And they're like, yeah, that's pretty good. But because they're not the most politically involved, they don't know how high the stakes are. But the irony is I'm not someone who's politically involved. So I'm not going to go to bat with you on politics. It's not where I stand. That's not where my money is. Don't you agree 6 million new jobs is good since you took office? No, that is a good thing. No, no, no. Now you're out of the mob. Right. These aren't things that

I would take a stand on to fight you on. But that's the irony is what I'm saying is these people are ready to fight you on things that they know nothing about. That's what I find so comically impressive is you're like, you packed up. You went down to the thing. You decided this is the fucking hill I'm going to die on. But if you don't have weaponry at all, being mental fucking weaponry, you don't have your position aligned in in your brain properly to go i know why i'm here i know what i'm doing i know what i'm fighting for because i'm all for people speaking

their mind feeling how they want to feel i don't give a fuck if you love trump or you hate trump as long as that's your feeling and you know why you like and hate those things i'm fine with that that's how the world works like the reason you're here in my opinion, is I like talking to people who I don't think exactly alike. Otherwise, what a boring fucking world. I'm trying to prove that people can sit in the same room that don't have identical belief systems and still have conversation. And that's what's so fucking annoying to me is it's becoming now I sit in the room with you. Fantino's a fucking nazi conservative nightmare used to be this way no it used to be people had conversations disagree you know see

next thanksgiving now it's like oh the cousins don't come over anymore it's it's yeah it's crazy we don't talk to them they stay in nebraska it's just one of those things where like i didn't grow up that way because in the midwest in chicago there are a fuckload of democrats and there's a fuckload of republicans okay and i grew up with a lot of both. I grew up with a lot of union workers and cops. Construction workers is one side of my family. A little bit more conservative is another side. So and by the way, a lot of the fucking blue guys that I know, they're conservative anyway.

You know, it's just there is a public there's a public Democratic viewpoint of them because they're, you work for the city or you're, you know what I mean? Or you're a laborer. So you have this blue thing behind you, the unions and a lot of them still have conservative mentalities and conservative ways of carrying out their lifestyles. So I was born and bred with both. So when I moved here, it was, and I've been here for a long time, but it was a wake up call as time has gone on that i was like wow these this is like if you're not left you're a piece of shit yeah and it's a weird like i don't believe i don't agree with that like i i just cannot sit here and go i'm okay with that because i'm not if you are someone who supports opposite of my belief system that's okay that's how the fuck the world's gonna keep spinning you know You know what I mean? Like, I don't believe in condemnation

because you just, we aren't the same person. I think that's, we can still kick it and have conversation, which is, I think, the point of that, the point of your show. Now, you cleverly do things where you go, oh, you think six million jobs is bad. People really don't have an answer.

Now, the thing I'm interested in is, do people, do you ever feel as if now i'm in danger like now this is a threat not just physically i'm saying like because you're not a fucking little guy but i mean do you ever feel like oh this can get out of control because people do fucked up shit dude they found out your address they do i mean people are fucking crazy on every platform. Yeah, so it's like we've gotten to the point now where we can't have political conversations. Like, you're going to get your address exposed,

and everyone's a Nazi. Like, three years ago, if you told me, like, oh, yeah, like, half the country might be Nazis, anyone would say, what are you talking about? Yeah, right. But now it's like that's the new norm. I'm not really worried about my safety, because at the end of the day, it's like,

it should be called Fleckus listens, not even Fleckus talks. I don't even say anything. So if you're mad at me as a leftist, go talk to the person in the interview saying if you can get an AR-15, what's stopping you from getting a nuclear weapon? Go talk to the person who thinks that women make 30 cents to the dollar a man makes. Go talk to them first. Get that settled. Then come talk to me. I didn't even say anything.

Right. settled then come talk to me i didn't even say anything right um but i think with the issues we're facing it's just the framing of all these issues the wall uh lgbt right women's rights everything is like a framing thing so for like the wall actually let's do lgbt i did the pride parade in la i'm there as a conservative i'm wearing the rainbow flag i'm wearing like a high-vis vest i'm wearing a bandana i'm having fun i'm dancing as a conservative not to cut you off are you in support of these groups i have friends who are gay and the whole point of the video was talking to people what do you think about trump oh he's horrible he's taking our rights away what rights is he taking away i don't really know like what's he doing you know he hates gay people

isn't he the first president to enter office pro-lgbt the whole way like obama in 08 before getting elected was saying men and women should be married not gay people so it's like they don't really know these things didn't he appoint richard grinnell the ambassador to germany who's the first ambassador ever who's who's gay and they don't really know these things all they know is the framing trump hates gay people i'm against trump where do you think that comes from that's my that's kind of my curiosity the media because i see it too i like um again like this is something that I'll want to get to in a second with you about it because I feel like we might still agree on things like that. I've never heard Trump be like, the gays are fucking – we got to fucking get rid of – I've never heard that.

He held a rainbow flag that said LGBT for Trump and he held it up. But there's this rhetoric that's pushed around and there's a lot of false narrative all over the place, by the way. On lefties do it, righties do it just as bad. It's just I'm interested to know where those kind of things come from because I'm like, that's odd. I'm a person who fucking reads. I like not books. My fans know I joke about that. I can't finish a fucking book.

But I'll read a ton of shit online, and I get a little confused when I'm like, well, where is this Trump hating gays thing come from? Not that I'm saying it's not real. I don't know. But then when you read into it, you're like, where did this – who manufactured this idea? Who was that good at marketing that they – I mean someone's a fucking genius. They're like, he hates gays. And then it just like fucking spread like fire because I never heard it. That's the same thing with all Mexicans are rapists. It's the same thing. Right. it just like fucking spread like fire. Yeah. Cause I never heard it. That's the same thing with,

um, all Mexicans are rapists. It's the same thing. Right. Remember like, it's the same conversation. They take a little thing out of context or they leave something out. Like they lie by omission and then it becomes repeated and repeated and repeated.

And then it's just the new norm. Like I talk to people all the time and they're like, oh, and I have some friends who are Mexican American. They like Trump. And they're like, how can you like that guy? Like he hates, he said all Mexicans are rapists it's like read the fucking transcript right well

there's a lot of mexicans that love trump oddly enough i mean that people don't really know that that's the thing that a lot of people don't really understand there's a lot of mexican-americans that live here in southern california specifically that are massive trump supporters uh it's just it's it's an odd but people don't know that because outside of our world it's it's not spoken about that's not talked about you know this is one thing i want to get your semi-agreements on you know because i've talked to my family about it um the more than anything as a comedian the thing that like i guess bugs me about trump is his his articulation is sometimes so poor that it's almost comical in nature to me that I'm like,

there's no way you think that's the right way to say that. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think like, even if you like Trump, there are moments where even Trump supporters have to go, oh, why did you say it like that? Or why would you say, why would you say that? I think he oftentimes will do things where his, the way he formulates what I know he's trying to say is either ill-prepared or unscripted, which is nontraditional for most presidents.

And I think his improv skills aren't that dope. You know what I mean? He's just not that good at improv is what I see all the time. And like, that's not the only thing, but that's one of those things where I know even Trump supporters who are educated people, you know, those that are, know that even they get frustrated at that. Even they go, oh, fuck, dude, come on. I mean, there has to be more formulaic ways

to deliver messages that feel more astute, more, you know, a little bit more prim, a little bit more tied up, because it's kind of nice. Listen, at the end of the day, nobody wants to receive information from a high source that sounds, you know, inarticulate. It just feels disingenuous. It's like, wait, do you not care?

Yeah. But at the same time, there's been plenty of presidents in the past that are the most presidential and they deliver the message and they cry at the right time and they give some powerful things and they go like this and you really believe them. And, you know, we elected this guy to kind of go in there and be a wrecking ball. I agree there are times where maybe he says things that are like, he probably shouldn't have worded it like that. But a lot of times he says things that aren't worded properly people jump all over it they actually do the research and then they're like basically siding with him right like for example colin kaepernick taking a knee he's like oh that you know throw that son of a bitch out of there whatever he said people are like oh that's racist he hates black people this that then it's like well he knows deep down 75

percent of the country doesn't want you know want people to be protesting during the national anthem. So he knows he has that in his back pocket, that people agree with him. Maybe he didn't word it right, but now everyone's watching, and they're watching their news, right or left. And if they're on the left and they agree that people shouldn't be kneeling, they're watching their news saying, like, oh, Trump's racist. This is all racism. He's allowed to kneel. It's good to kneel. And they're kind of like, I don't really agree with that. Right. Do you think OK, so this brings

me to an excellent question. I'm curious to know if you think perhaps sometimes he himself doesn't believe these things, but he knows that it's party affiliated or it's an it's it is a strategic move. Right. Like let's even say that Trump does agree with protesting and he's OK with it. But do you think there are times like that when he goes, well, this is kind of more strategy? It's smart that I know that the majority of the country is heavy military is is pro, you know, these these things that have kind of been embedded in our culture. And do you think he sometimes does that for his angle? He's not he's a politician just as much as he says he's not he's a politician just as much as yeah he says he's not you know i'm saying he 100 does things to plant seeds to stir the pot and to be kind of outrageous sometimes to get people talking about things 100 i don't think he shares any views that are like anti-american so at his base it's like is he a republican is he a democrat he's kind of like a rebrand

middle of the boat of both right i don't think he's either. I think he's a, I think he is a, first of all, I think like anybody who runs for office, I think you're an egomaniacal crazy person. I think everybody that runs for office is out of their mind. I think to get to that point, you have to be so power hungry at every level that I think at some point you are doing it for, you know, a wonderful growth benefit of your own kind of personal ego and attainment. Like, you know, I like to think that some presidents or some politicians are like, I'm doing this because I really care. But I think for the most part, all these motherfuckers, it's a, it's a, it is

a powerful thing to be a powerful person. And there's a lot of strength that comes along with that. There's a lot of financial gain. Like, I think they're all these people are the same i've always felt that way no matter if it was a lefty or righty i was always like this human did this perhaps at one point because they feel like they're trying to make change whatever the fuck you want to call it but at the end of the day i think there's a lot of perks with power i think he probably does have an ego but i do think as well like his goal is to go down in history as the best president ever. Right, but that's what I'm saying. That's ego-driven. That's what I mean, though.

That is inherently being like, I'm the best. Michael fucking Jordan was the best basketball player, in my opinion, in the history of the game. He's an ego fucking maniac. He's egomaniacal. He sacrificed everything to get what he wanted. I think people that are at those positions tend to kind of share these similarities. You have to be ruthless. You have to be a little rude a lot of times they're you know

brash and not they're they're not careful do you know what i mean you just you are where you are because you know that's what it takes to kind of become this thing larger than those around you so i think he shares these things whether or not he agrees with some of the shit he says i think he's just i think he's clever enough to know it's gonna work in the benefit do you know what i mean i think he's i think he knows positioning i think he understands that and i think there there is an aspect of ego for sure but look who he was running against hillary clinton versus donald trump they both have the ego they both want to be the powerful person. Who would be acting in America's best interest out of the two? I think if Hillary Clinton was elected, we'd have closer to open borders. We'd be in war with Russia.

We'd be involved in Syria. It'd be horrible. It'd be game over. And Trump getting in, it's like, yeah, he's an ego guy. He wants to be the most famous person in the world. Now he pretty much is. But his goal is, at the end of the day, to look out for the American interest.

He's not trying to get rich. Hillary Clinton's worth over $100 million, her and Bill. Trump is worth, I think, $5 billion going into office. I think he's worth $3.5 now. He went down 100 slots on the Forbes 400 or whatever. Bummer. So it's like, you know, I think he's sacrificing a lot, too. Everyone loved him before this.

He didn't have to run. Everyone loved him before this. I'm fascinated because we live in hollywood and hollywood this they were best friends with that cat dude so many major power players oh they loved the rappers loved him everyone loved him well i think a lot of rappers still do like him by the way i think there's a lot of people that i think there's a lot of people that are in a big public forum that do love him um but they can't publicly love him i mean you know there's a lot of names that you know i'm not allowed to name because it's not my business you know i'm gonna i'm gonna say how i view him and i feel uh but i'm not gonna go around calling out people there's plenty of

fucking phony democrats in this game that pretend that they're leftist but behind closed doors they're not they're fucking they're liars i mean and they're not allowed to come out because they'll it'll prevent them from getting a job you know what i'm saying like it it hinders you in this game if you're anything aligned with trump and i know that there's a lot of big powerful people in this business that are vehemently trump supporters but they're not allowed to be which i think is a that's my biggest issue with what's happening now do you know is that you're not allowed to be i think it plays out i think i completely agree with you and i think that's good because i think the left and the right,

however you want to label it, are now in, like, two ships, and the left ship is going down. It's sinking because you can't make certain jokes anymore. You can't do actual comedy. It's hard to go on tour. You can't go to college campuses and do stand-up as much because the kids get offended. So it's like I think the left is, like, shrinking

in what they're allowed to say, what they're allowed to do, who they're allowed to associate with. And the right is kind of becoming like – and we're not even the right. Just anywhere but the far left is becoming like, yeah, you can say that. Like we like Dave Chappelle, that kind of thing. So I'll give you the devil's advocate of that. Like as a touring comedian, comedy is the richest it's ever been right now, the richest as far as involvement and fans. So I don't know if that's true.

I know what you're saying is the left is becoming more restrictive, but it's such an extreme minority of what we're talking about. Are you doing tours, self-booking, or are you going to just comedy clubs? Well, I don't do colleges. I do theaters and comedy clubs. They're all your fans buying your tickets. Yes, and a lot of times they're people that are interested in seeing a new show. But for the most part, yeah, I sell tickets to my fans.

I want to come out to have a good time and fuck around and talk shit. And I like to eat the left and I like to eat the right. I mean, I talk shit about everybody. My goal is to kind of dismantle our societal norms, the things that we find fucking okay that I think are bananas, that I just think are stupid. And that's kind of my goal is to just shit on everybody. And I do a pretty good job of shitting on everybody.

So no one is going to win at my show. Do you know what I mean? I'm never going to get a chant afterwards that's like fuck me or pro... You know what I mean? It's just I'm going to shit on you no matter what you are because I think everyone's a bozo for the most part. So in comedy now, I think

the real truth is um an extremely small minority of critics and uh not even gatekeepers just just media manipulators are getting tighter and more restrictive like the people that fucking said what they said about chapelle special but when you look at it from a from a from a national scale it's the polar opposite more people are wanting to go to comedy shows than ever our numbers are through the roof and I'm talking across the board every comic now is selling the most tickets because people want to get away from the nonsense I think it's it's helping comedy because people are like oh I'm so tired of fucking this bullshit I want to go laugh and just let it go because there's so much tension over like you think like

this you're a fucking nazi you think like that you're a socialist piece of shit i think people need relief and what we're doing in comedy clubs is letting people fucking sit back and let us talk shit because my goal is to say whatever i want to say you paid me to fucking be the guy to say the thing that you might be afraid to say i'm gonna say it you know like i tell that in some of the jokes that i do about like you can't say this joke like you go to your job on monday you're you're fucked but that's my whole goal is to be the guy that gets to do that which is why i think chapelle is in the right in everything he said if you don't like what he says you don't agree with he said turn it off don't promote it and move on that's like anything else do you like applebee's oh i don't want to eat there then fucking don't promote it and move on that's like anything else do you like

applebee's oh i don't want to eat there then fucking don't eat there then go to another restaurant there's a million restaurants so i i think the idea that the left is trying to shut down comedy first of all it'll never fucking happen and i think that is a i think that's an inflated idea because the real left people that do technically that are – do have open minds, that are real leftists, they want to hear fucking opposing opinions. That used to be the real way. A leftist used to be, okay, well, let me hear all the sides. Let me have an open mind to something. Let me try to feel this new age thing.

to feel this new age thing now this extreme tiny small portion of people on the extreme left are kind of the ones that are dictating some of the internet movement and what they think is okay to say and not okay because i think for the most part the audience score on rotten tomatoes for spell special was 99 fucking percent if that's not proof that the 26 from critics means fucking nothing i don't know what else does. Do you know what I mean? So I think I could have worded it better. I would say the establishment of a comedy establishment, the award shows, the network TV, stuff like that. And then you're like the anti-establishment response to that, where it's like, no, you guys think I'm funny.

I'm not maybe falling under that umbrella. Come to my show, buy my tickets. Yes. That's great. That's what I want to happen in everything. That's what Trump did to's great. That's what I want to happen in everything. That's what Trump did to the Republicans. That's what Bernie wanted to do for the Democrats. That's what needs to happen in comedy,

entertainment in general. Yeah, I think people should, but I think people should make their own, make their own decision on what they fucking and get involved in. I just, I don't think jumping the gun to shut things down is a proper response. I just think that's a silly fucking thing.

Just because I don't, Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I'm going to fight tooth and nail to shut it down. Just because I disagree with it, to me, that's absurdism. That's like, you're going to ruin your life trying to stop someone else's belief system is, to me, a little fucked up.

As long as what they're promoting is not fucking you know go kill this guy you know what i mean like yeah i'm not within reason i'm just saying you know if someone's like yeah i'm a republican i like trump i'm like well that's your fucking choice dude that i don't know why that that there is this thing that's like fuck you fluckus you're a piece of shit because you told me you like trump and now i can never even look at you again it's like i'd rather explore why i why you do i'd rather i'm more interested in why you like him than my disengagement with you because i think that gets us fucking nowhere and as a comic i feel like most comics feel that way because our whole job is to fucking interact with social find out what's going on with people,

dissect it, make fun of it, poke holes in it. That's literally what our whole, that's what comedy is. We've always made fun of the haves, you know, usually being a have-not, and dissected society and made fun of the fucking, the goofy shit that's happening, you know? I think, like, for you, what's also hard is you've taken a very grounded stance on the fact that you are a trump supporter so for the business getting

pushback do you feel it like we talked about youtube like does youtube try to shut you down have you been uh youtube tries to shut me down um basically in the beginning they demonetized all my videos right and then once i started get what was the policy violation did they say what it was uh no they didn't really say so they just were like this isn't fit for then i got like tighter with it so i was like you know in the beginning i didn't censor my curses sure i started censoring my curses then it's like you know i was kind of playing the game where i wanted to work with youtube so I could make this like an actual career, an actual job. So for the first 200,000 subscribers, they didn't really monetize anything.

Then after that, they did. And the way they get me basically, though, is they'll demonetize my videos. I'll request a manual review. They'll say, yeah, we'll get back to you in 48 hours. 46 hours later, they're like, yeah, you're right. You can monetize this. But I missed like 250,000 views. Wow. get this this will get demonetized for sure they see you and they're like no no no yeah i think i i like i think that is a that is something that that needs to be talked about and addressed is that you know i'm friends with joe rogan he's

a good friend of mine and he gets called all these fucking names. Like he's an alt-right guy. It's like, if you know Joe, Joe is on paper for pound for pound, a liberal, whatever you want to call it. He's just not a new age leftist fucking insane-o person who goes out of his way to attack the right. That's just not what he does. But what I've taken from him, what I like that he does is he speaks to people on both sides of the coin.

Like you sit with everybody so you can get perspective you know that that's how we learn as a fucking society is to go well i want to learn i want to know why you feel this way i want to know more about you as a human that's that's how we really get to fucking understand culture but we understand why we are the way we are and who we associate with and why our beliefs are that way you know what i mean instead of blindly going shut it down fuck that all right you're done it's just i want to hear it you know like i want to know and for you so it seems so i've learned so far is your change came when you moved here because you you really started investigating politics and got deeply into your personal interest in

why it mattered to you yeah i basically just like started looking into the stuff looking into the history like i was a history major in college i didn't study anything i handed in b minus papers i wrote four hours before yeah like i got nothing i learned nothing but now like after politics getting into it in 2016 i was like finding myself researching like you know politics during vietnam like all these things that i probably took in a class at some point and didn't pay attention to but when i got involved in it i was really just looking into just both sides why we're so divided what the media's plan is how they operate lies they've told in the past that ended up not being true like all those kind of things and i was just like dude

this is the same experience pretty much anyone would have any normal middle of the road person if they looked into politics and the way it is now it's like you know in hollywood especially they just make people the center of their own world like make a god of yourself you are all that matters is you and what you can enjoy and what you can get out of life it's just you you you and when you live that way it's like you can't look into politics you can't actually study it that much so you're like you know i'm not going to pay attention to it takes too much time too much effort but taylor swift said trump's really bad she's not dumb i love her music i've always loved her that's where i fall politically and i just wanted to like break that a little bit because i think that's like the reason we're so divided

is just because people don't actually look into it but trust like there's trust sources and they trust these LeBron James and Taylor Swift to like tell them what's going on right and it's like well who doesn't trust LeBron James and Taylor Swift though I mean they are they're the source for almost everything I've ever done in my entire life

yeah exactly so it's like now I know what you mean people just buy into kind of celebrityism kind of sells it you can sell a lot of agendas and from celebrities the celebrities have a lot of power in the world to say this is how i feel and almost all of their fans will come along with them you know that's i think that's very dangerous i think it's extremely dangerous and you know it's like that when people push around they're like just shut the fuck up and

play sports or just shut the fuck up and be an actress or whatever those terminology that that phrase i disagree with i'm like that's annoying they can still publicly have their own their own opinions about politics and and they can push whatever they want to push they're using their platform for them um it would be nice if more people that use their platform were uh more well spoken about it because i think a lot of people use platforms incorrectly that you're like oh dude you're super famous and you're just pushing around fucking goofball nonsense bullshit you know like you could be doing it intelligently whether or not you're a lefty or righty you know i think somebody who does it well as a leftist uh i think john stewart is articulate he's a smart. He believes in his stance and whether or not you agree with him, he still has, um, he's, he, he preserves some semblance of, of togetherness

when he divulges the way he feels. I think there's guys, there's people that do it well, that even if you're like, I don't agree with what he's saying, I, I think it's important for us to be more, uh, well uh well spoken about our sides instead of being like fuck you you suck fuck you you suck that my biggest beef i talk about on stage is when people are like fuck trump online and on twitter i'm like okay that's it like yeah it's just so cheap to me it's so easy it's so monotonous it's like saying you know like relish sucks you're like what okay i guess i mean give me some weight to the way you really feel and and give me reasoning and you know i i'm not saying you get it out in 140 fucking characters but i just think we like

used to have we used to have more fun with our feelings you know what i mean yeah we used to be a little bit better about talking shit i think we've gotten worse at talking shit like george bush man bush bush got made fun of incessantly every day when he was in office but like for the most part he played along with some of the things they mocked like he was good at kind of having fun with them because i don't know i think it was a lot of it was more clever than crude now it's more like kill trump yeah it was never that way with bush and people people pretend like it was any different there was so people hated george bush there was lefties fucking loathe george he was the enemy of the state people couldn't stand him i mean you remember hearing how the rhetoric of

people being like the worst president of all i, the lefties loathed him. And I thought, wow, they'll never hate a president like that again. And then now with Trump, I mean, they wish death upon the dude. It's a different world. You're like, damn, these hardcore lefties are fucking violent, dude. It's not like that fucking media hate that used to spew. And now they all love George Bush, which is more. Yeah, which is insane.

That's even funnier to me that a lot lot of the left like thinks he's like the greatest thing a lot of the trump supporters are like hate the bushes i know it's john mccain the bushes we're all like fuck that and everyone's like oh john mccain like hero like you know he didn't agree with trump and everything like we want politics to go back to like the john mccain days and the george bush days it's like i don't know so that's a different because that's a different republican right yeah exactly there's republicans in my family that are that that uh still like the bushes and they still you know and they did like john mccain and it's and it's funny there's even a divide internally within republicans just like there is to democrats establishment versus anti-establishment and

right now the only party that has really rooted out the establishment is the right like we saw it in the um with 2016 trump was up against like 15 other republicans jeb bush oh you heard jeb bush that was really tough i think mit romney was mit romney one of them i don't know i felt bad for jeb bush i was like dude this is not that's not nice like it was it's almost like it was just like watching someone open mic in the comedy world and like going it's like open micing against like fucking killers and you're like, what is this? This is not fair. It wasn't – it just was like wrong.

Like wasn't one person on his team like, yeah, this is like a bad idea. Oh, yeah. Like you're going to get fucking murdered. But anyway, I think – But the framing of the issues is why we're having all these problems in society. It's like even for the wall. Okay. Trump wants to build a wall.

The left commits, doubles down, triples down, quadruples down the walls because he's racist and he doesn't want brown people coming in the country. Now, as a Trump supporter, most people are out there defending why Trump isn't racist. He's not against immigrants. He's married to one. People from all over the world come across the border and all these things, but we don't get to actually discuss the border issue. We're discussing why Trump isn't racist.

So it becomes more about race than about the actual thing. So it's like the framing of the issue. It's not like, all right, border wall. Do we need a border wall? What's going on at the border? And instead of talking about the numbers, the hundreds of thousands of people a month that are coming across, the millions of people, 20 to 30 million people here living illegally. the millions of people, 20 to 30 million people here living illegally. Now we're talking about like Trump hates brown people based on nothing out of thin air because of a couple things out of context and him wanting to build a wall.

And it's like now we're fighting with each other like this, and the people above us who are pulling the strings are just kind of like laughing at us. It's a big joke to them. Yeah, but everybody above us is laughing at us, by the way. Governmental institutions are all like, you're all idiots. But I think it becomes a race debate. You're right. It it became a race issue it's like we do kind of need a wall we do have a lot of people okay so how about this this is a proposal like what if what if it wasn't a wall do you think it would have gotten the same response if he just said we need unbelievably

strict border security and laid that out and so visually different i think in my opinion the reason that people get mad is because a wall uh gives people remnants of like berlin do you know what i mean like i think i think people associate it with um with a historical divide of race and class religion and i think that becomes a parallel on their head you know over what happens in israel over what happened in germany i think that to them becomes the same thing do you know what i mean whether or not that's the truth yeah i think what happens is uh when you have symbolically when you symbolically have something that's been uh like kind of singed into your brain as negative for so long perhaps that's

why it's a misstep and that's when i talk about stuff like, I think when he says or does certain things, I go, there's got to be a better way to do that. Even if I know what his intention is, that a lot of times he says things and I go, God, if he, if he put it to the table differently, maybe the response wouldn't be as fucking chaotic, right? Like if it was about, if it was about, you know, if he talked heavily about how to increase border security and immigration and how this needs to be a tighter top, um, that's what I'm talking about. Perhaps the articulation of, of that would help. Do you know what I mean? Cause it's, it's the same thing that happened with people got mad at separation of families that became this massive issue here in Los Angeles. I mean, everywhere people talked about it.

But I'm saying like here in L.A., that's all you heard about for days and days and days and days. Now, by the way, not again. But for days and days and days. And it was like, well, you know, Obama did the exact same thing. And people were livid to hear the truth when you were like, oh, no, Obama. This was a program that happened when Barack Obama was in office. This isn't a new thing. It's more polarizing now because of the time that we're in and what's happening now.

But, like, people don't want to hear that stuff because the Obama administration was more strategic in their articulation. So that's my point. I feel like if you're more strategic in your articulation, things can be received a little bit differently. And I think that bothers me about Trump and all that shit because I'm like, God damn, dude. It's almost like everything is ready to click a war. Do you know what I'm saying? Keep in mind, if he did it the proper way

that would be more appealing to you, the media wouldn't be like, all right, let's be fair to him this time. I know, I know. It wouldn't matter. So it's like, yeah, he's a little rough around the edges. Like, yeah, we need a wall. Like, rapists are coming here. But it's like, I read a story a little rough around the edges. Like, yeah, we need a wall. Like, rapists are coming here.

But it's like, I read a story the other day about an 11-year-old girl going to the hospital. And I spoke to the woman who actually helped the girl. And I met her in El Paso, the nurse. She was 11 years old, went to the hospital, had 20 different semen samples in her. Ay, ay, ay. Holy fucking shit. They're raping all the women that come across the border that are getting trafficked across and, like, smuggled across. Gross.

I would say 99 out of 100 are getting raped at least once it's horrible it's fucking gross terrible but then it's like trump said all mexicans are rapists now we're talking about like him being racist to an entire group of people when it's like you're ignoring what's literally happening on the border they seized fentanyl on the border they found one one time um coming across it was enough to kill like 100 million people enough fentanyl and fentanyl it's like a couple grains of sand. Yeah, they put it in heroin, right? They just have blocks of it.

Jesus. So, you know, I'm with you. I wish he maybe articulated some things better, but at the same time, I don't really care. Because the media knows that people have, like you said before, those feelings of what a wall means, Nazi Germany, all these things. It works. And they just feed on that.

Yeah, it works. They're like, oh, Trump wants to build a wall, and you know how he's like a Nazi. It makes sense. It's a dog whistle to the alt-right, which barely even exists, the alt-right. That's a different conversation. Well, we're saying the same thing. I think the extreme left barely exists as well. I think they're unbelievably small.

I think the extreme left exists and is more willing to do stuff than the extreme right and the extreme left gets like backed up by the media sometimes like antifa is like oh they're just like anti-fascist it's like but but see but at the same time i think there's there's extreme right groups that they're not as as vocal i think that i think the left i think they're they're probably just as many people on a far far right that they're on a far far left i think you hear a lot more far, far left because the media kind of is able to exploit, expose and promote this, whether or not it's CNN or Fox news or any of these fucking places.

They all love, dude, they're all clickbaits. You don't know. This is all clickbait at the end of the day, 24 hour news cycle, basically ruin the news. I'm because,

because even, even this, I'm going to write on this video. Fleck has had sex with Donald Trump. we talked about it i'm gonna clickbait but you see what i mean is like everything is a clickbait nonsense bullshit headline grabber and that's goes back to what i was saying about the chapelle thing people wanted to write negative shit before he even fucking put out the special because they know that's gonna get fucking traffic you're gonna get traffic when you say chapelle is a homophobe chapelle is a is transphobic

of course people are gonna click on it yeah even though i know he's not they know people like me are probably gonna fucking click on it because i'm gonna read because i want to read it and go this is fucking bullshit i have a theory that that's what the new marketing plan is for 2019. It's like Gillette doing the ad where it's toxic masculinity. It gets everyone clicking and talking about it. It's like you got a million retweets. Oh, dude. Gillette boosted from that shit.

Or like that cologne that just came out called Sauvage. It basically means savage. What is that? It's Johnny Depp dancing around in Indian headdress. I've never seen it. It was a couple weeks ago. It's called Sauvage which means savage

and it's like you know everyone's going to freak out and click on this and go crazy but I'm sure He's wearing an Indian headdress? Indian headdress

dancing around. They had to apologize. And it's Johnny Depp. And I'm sure everyone went to it but I'm sure that's what they wanted. They wanted the traffic

and it works. And it's like the media has committed like we said before that Donald Trump's a Nazi the wall's Nazi whatever whatever and the problem is the politicians are being led by the media has committed like we said before to the donald trump's a nazi the wall's nazi whatever whatever and the problem is the politicians are being led by the media for like not the other

way around so now if you're a democrat and they ask the question if you cross the border should it should it be criminalized raise your hand if you think it shouldn't be everyone's like you know because you have to everyone else is doing it hey should illegal immigrants have free health care yes or no and everyone's like so they have to do it or else they're the only one who's not progressive enough. But that's what I'm saying. So it's great for us because if you think that we shouldn't have people crossing the border blindly, we shouldn't give all these things to illegal immigrants when we have people on our own streets, veterans on our own streets who are homeless and suffering, then it's like now you're a fascist, alt-right, psycho-Nazi. It's like, cool, welcome to the club. That's the name of the video, fascist, all right, psycho Nazi.

But that's with my channel too, because it's like, I do it this way. I do the do-it-yourself style, the spoon mic, the normal outfits, just to show people that you don't have to be scared of the mob. I'm just a normal guy. You don't have to be scared of the mob. You can speak out. Because then when they speak out, it makes it easier for other people to speak out and then the terms that they Call us don't work. They call a black person a white supremacist. They'll call a Jewish person a Nazi

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What were they saying? The police are the KKK. Cops and Klan go hand in hand. Yeah, cops and Klan go hand in hand. I remember watching that clip over and over. It was like six black cops. And I was like, I dare this kid to go say that to that cop's face yeah not out of not not because like he'll fuck him up but but he'll he'll he'll he'll really get break that

down like do you know what that means do you know what that means what a horrible thing to say what an awful thing regardless if that cop if regardless if that if that black man was a cop i'm saying you're yelling that at a man you don't know and you do you don't understand the depth of what you're really saying it's like when a white kid says uh uh to a black guy well i'm blacker than him you know in their friendship circle it's like what are you out of your fucking what the fuck are you talking about dude have you are you alive you're blacker than him like when somebody says something so grandiose and nonsensical for some reason society tends to like be okay with it if it's uh if it's

like uh behind a movement and you're like do you really know what you're saying because that's crazy talk you're crazy you're calling cops the kkk they're there so you don't die you're going to die without them i mean you know i don't i that that kind of stuff bothers me so that's like i said i think if lefties want to have, if leftists want to fucking protest, if righties want to protest, cool. Just have your fucking agenda in mind. Go there with your ideas solid instead of, which I guess I shouldn't promote that,

otherwise you wouldn't have a fucking show. But the truth is, when people go to these things and they're promoting stuff that I know they don't know what they're talking about, it really does, it bums you out. You're like, bro, fuck. Do you really know how crazy that is that you're behind that movement?

Like someone, oh my God, some kids had Ronald Reagan cutouts that were like, fuck Reagan, glad he's dead or whatever. And X is on his eye. Reagan's dead. Oh man, it was such a crazy, you're like, what are you, do you know what you're saying?

That's my thing. I was like, do you know what you're saying? Even's my thing. I was like, do you know what you're saying? That's a, even if you didn't like his presidency, what are you promoting? What is your idea of what this is? What are you really saying? And I think,

like many times, when there's moments of extremism, I say this in my standup, people don't know what they're really saying because they're so, you're so like, you're filled with fucking, you know,

all this anger and hate or excitement for whatever that you kind of forget that you are not coming at it with the right ammunition. Kathy Griffin with the head of Trump and her apologizing thereafter, you're like, did you think that was a fucking good idea? That's a crazy idea, dude. How about that production crew, the camera person, the assistant, assistant everyone standing around like action like one person wasn't like this is not a good idea yeah it's a stupid idea it's just it might even be even like illegal almost with the

president calling for a set you're like let's not but it's just because her agenda is so um aligned with extreme leftism and she is dude that everything she promotes is so fuck trump that you're like take a minute to say why fuck trump do you know what i mean don't sell beanies on your website that say fuck trump uh if you don't really know why fuck trump like i i believe that for all all sides dude like fuck that thing for sure tell me why fuck that thing like then i'm cool with hearing your side of it and even if i don't agree with it at least fucking have a position instead of this thing is bad and this and i can't tell you why i that's there's no validity there yeah right it's like when somebody says fuck los angeles and every asshole across the united states goes like la sucks you go why

and they go fucking stupid dude why you know so fuck everyone out there is hollywood really do you know how many millions of people live in this place that aren't a part of hollywood you just see hollywood because we gave you the fucking entertainment but the rest of this city is not hollywood what are you talking about but there there is this idea that like you are allowed to be so heavy-handed with your opinion without any sort of idea of or why you feel that way and that's i think that's a detriment for the future it's like i'm i'm glad people are fucking expressing how they feel but please know why a little like a little bit like know why you don't like trump yeah i'm down for people had to hate things yeah me too be legit about your hate i

want everyone to be open and i wish it was easier for people on the right to speak out and express themselves but that's like with my videos like i i really tried to like fracture the left in a non-violent way where it's like the left and the right are like this they think it's down the middle it's really not the left is leftist and liberals but the liberals and the right overlap in that they like america they respect the constitution they're for free speech they don't want censorship that's right and they're and they're pro-america they want america to do well obama i wasn't i was i was a fan but i wasn't following it but i always wanted him to do well even looking back now at this point of view i wanted obama to do well you know what i mean you want almost every president to do well he's flying

the plane yeah dude but it's like if you ask the left like they want trump to fail they want trump's north korea negotiations to fail they want trump to knock it as well and then like we're having a you know illegal immigration problems continued like they don't want him to succeed at the detriment of the entire plane that's pretty fucking wild yeah so it's like i just want to make the teams like hey you know maybe the liberals and the leftists, you guys are on the same team, different teams, and then the right is a team. But it's like the liberals and the right have more in common than the liberals and the leftists do. But because it's left versus right politics and that's how it's framed, people don't really realize it. They think it's Republican versus Democrat.

It's really not. It's really everyone against radical progressive psycho leftists. They want Trump to fail. They want the economy to crash so he doesn't get elected. They want North Korea negotiations to fail and nuke somebody so Trump looks like an idiot. Like it's insane. They want him to look like a fool. Yes.

They want him to foolishly fall on his face until they can get rid of him. In knowing what little you know about me, what would you assume that I am? I think if we went down a list of things, we would agree on a lot of stuff to the point where you'd be considered right-wing by a lot. You're right-wing, but I don't want to blow you up on your podcast. No, no, no. I'm asking your opinion over what you think. Yeah, you're definitely – like if we went down a list of Trump's not that bad, like the thing I do, you would agree. Do you agree that we have a border issue?

We have an issue on the border. We have an immigration issue in this country. I think that's non-debatable. I think that's kind of a fact of our country. And it's a problem. It's a lot of money going to these people, a lot of resources. That's a realistic thing. Okay, that's good.

Would you agree the economy is doing better? That's the problem. GDP's up. I can't legitimately say yes or no because i'm a i'm i'm blind to that like i'm not i'm ignorant so i unfortunately can't i couldn't go yeah it is or no it's not because i'm not gonna sit here and and argue with you about stuff i don't know anything about because i don't like when people go no it's not it's like we'll prove it and they're like oh fuck no. If I don't know,

I can't tell you that. From my personal perspective, I'm doing better, but that's a me thing. That's not Trump. Yeah, that's a me thing. It is kind of Trump in a way where it's like we're so divided

that people are like really needing that outlet. Well, dude, I've said this a thousand times. I think fucking somewhere in a room, Lorne Michaels is writing like a thousand thank you letters i think fucking uh somewhere in in a room lauren michaels is writing like a thousand thank you letters to donald trump because it's like the revitalization of saturday night live and the entertainment specter of this like mocking trump has has has given us so much

money it's like it's like trump's trump's election uh whether or not a lot of people in our business are are very vocally left and out loud dislike Trump, oh, it's helped them so much. Do you know what I mean? Like Chrissy Teigen tweets at the president and they get into a war. You know, they get in this fight or whatever the fuck it is.

And it's like, I know it's because she doesn't like him and his policy, blah, blah, blah. But it's also like, man, that boosts you. You know what I mean? Like it boosts you in our business. Like the more hate you show publicly towards trump in our business you get kind of these like little notch boosts you know what i mean like you know there's a comedian who shitted on fucking chapelle

in the in the huffington post not too long ago and he got a little kick do you know what i'm saying it's like it's like an artificial rewarding though where it's like it's not real it's like putting the fat person in the Calvin Klein underwear and being like, yeah, this is beautiful. And everyone's like, yes, that's beautiful, right? And everyone's like, yeah, that's beautiful. But deep down, it's like a very overweight person is less attractive than a normal-sized person.

But we have to pretend. Depends on who you ask. Yeah, yes, it does. Because I think you're a babe, dude. Yeah, I know. And you're a big guy. Person of size is what we go by. Person of size.

Is that your preferred term? That's my preferred pronoun, person of size. That's funny. You're a POS. You're a person of size. You're a real POS, dude. Know that. You're a real POS.

No, but I think so. Let's go back to what we were saying. So you're against censorship, right? You don't think anyone should be censored unless they're calling for violence or breaking the Constitution. Unless you are calling for physical violent action, right? Unless you're like organizing militias in war, unless you're trying to – Cool. Yes.

You think Facebook and the big tech companies, Twitter, Google, everything, YouTube, they should be equally fair and apply their rules across the board equally? I'm a little bit – I'm confused about what you mean. Like there are some people on the left that get censored, but the right is getting censored, and it's easier to get flagged as, like, a hate channel or, like— Right, my buddy Andrew Schultz got a thing called shadow ban. Do you know what that is? Shadow ban, of course. Shadow ban is a big thing. It's easier to get shadow ban on the right if you include non-controversial things, like MAGA, build the wall, lock her up.

Even if you talk about it, right. If you're doing, like, those hashtags, you'll get shadow ban, even though the shadow ban isn't like fuck this group of people or kill this group of people you're just talking about talking about like and that's like MAGA stuff like hashtag build the wall it's like that became like a hate thing and associated with certain groups now you're getting shadow banned the left doesn't really have that I don't really know too many situations where people on the left are getting censored or shadow banned so it's like you're against that you want people to be equally treated across the board yeah well i think the rules should always apply to everybody i don't think there should be like a loophole that you get away with something that i can't get away with you

know i think we should be judged on an equal plane if it's if that's the fucking rules of the thing that we've i totally agree i totally agree and a lot of times these tech companies there's just a few people inside that just like take a channel and go boop boop boop yeah now that channel's fucked for a while. Well, to be fair, to play devil's advocate, even though, of course, I think that's fucked up as an intelligent human, I know, well, that's agenda. That's corporate agenda, right? So I'm being a part of, if I'm a part of a big, of a platform like YouTube or Vimeo or

whatever, if I'm using their services, I am aware, I'm alive enough to know, know well they've got their fucking agenda too and if I don't align with their agenda and at some point they want to push me out because they don't agree with one thing I've said or someone I've interviewed then that's the way it goes do I agree with it? No but I do know that that happens I'm not stupid enough to think that it doesn't right it's like saying you know

it's my problem with fucking again I'm not in support of that I think that's fucked up but I also am not a moron like I know what goes on in the real world like i know how people fucking organize the the way that they can promote things i know how you know nike uh cries you know cries for for cabinet cabinet ads and then they still have slave labor you know you're like you're like oh you're really everyone has their secret agenda regardless so that's my point is this is such a grand thing to talk about it's hard to get down to the micro because every major corporation has a bigger agenda than we could even attach ourselves to so when this stuff does happen it's almost like it's our goal it's our job to talk shit about it to

bring awareness to it to be like do you guys know that they're doing this? Like my boy Schultz pushed it around the internet constantly. I'm being shadow banned. Then Whitney Cummings, I'm being shadow banned. I'm being shadow banned. Whitney Cummings is like a pretty out loud,

I would say left leaning, but very fair political criticizer, right? Like she shits on, pretty much she's very good at shitting on everyone, but is a little bit more

left-leaning traditionally. She got shadow banned, you know, and she was talking about it heavily on Twitter. What happened three days later? Boop, she's at the top again of Instagram. It's just like,

I know that they're doing that. I'm not going to pretend that that's not happening, but I just don't know, I don't know how to fix it. I don't know how to control it. How could you control that? Making our own platforms?

Yeah, it's impossible. Well, so that's why this is important. That's why it's not like they're a private company. They can do whatever they want. It almost has to be seen as like a human right to have social media. It sounds crazy, but that's the new public square. But it shouldn't.

No, it doesn't sound crazy because it's just another way to have your voice, right? So I should be free to have my voice to talk to somebody about anything. I should be able to fucking talk to you about things we agree on, things we disagree on, and have a public way to have that be consumed, whether or not you want to listen to it or not.

Well, you don't have to. No one's fucking putting on headphones for you every day and be like, you have to listen to Fleck. Yeah, exactly. I think that's my issues with this idea of getting rid of certain kinds of speech you know canada with this whole you get arrested for hate speech or whatever the fuck it is it's like that's the most absurdist nonsense bullshit and i'm glad to be a fucking american because you're like you can't tell me what i can't say unless of course i'm saying murder fleckis you know what i

mean if i'm promote if i'm sitting on my youtube page being like i want i want people to organize and go kill well yeah dude then that's that's fucking absurd but if i'm saying oh i i fucking don't like fleckis and i hate this thing about him and i disagree with him that's a legal right that you should be able to do that you should everyone should have that ability and it scares me to think that that's somewhat secretly in jeopardy i that scares me that i'm like you're telling me yeah i'm not allowed to think that that's somewhat secretly in jeopardy i that scares me that i'm like you're telling me yeah i'm not allowed to think and feel my organic feelings like you know i said this before this goes back to the fucking louis ck thing and i don't want to go over it for the thousandth time but like people hate what he said in that leaked set and it's like you can hate louis

ck because of um what happened whether or not you actually know the real story or not that's fine you can hate him uh you're allowed to dislike people because of whatever you know you could be like i don't like marshawn lynch because of blah blah blah so i don't like him as a football player it's like your choice dude whatever but to say that he cannot like to shut him like be like we can't have this kind of person saying these things it's like well he's just saying a joke that you don't like that's not he's not violating human right laws he's not taking away something from you he's just saying some shit that you don't agree with it's not funny okay well it's not funny to you then that's that's just the end of it for me you don't you just you have to be able to do and say things that are your way of thinking and being and acting, and we have to be okay with it.

America is okay with the KKK having rallies. I mean I'm not saying they're cool with it, but America is okay with people legally having rallies and protesting, right? We are. That's something that we go – That's a good thing to be able – no matter what your views are. Even though I fucking loathe the KKKkk i think they're pieces of shit human beings i think they're fucking if they want to have their little group get togethers that's their legal right to get their group get togethers until they push those boundaries of like let's go xyz together yeah right when you start doing

that shit but if you want to be a fucking ignorant racist moron sadly you have the unfortunate right to do so i think you'll have ten times as many people there opposing them which is great too yeah you should and that should be legal too you should protest that's the free market of like where does this town stand on kkk you have 13 guys in the park and you have 1300 people over here saying get the fuck out of here you're not welcome that's a good thing good yeah that's good that's the balance of america i think that there is such an agenda on the politics side. I mean, on the media side, everything is kind of left-leaning where it's like Alex Jones or Gavin McGinnis or Milo get kicked off of all these platforms.

Like Alex Jones gets kicked off of a platform for saying some things a few years ago. But it's like what about Rachel Maddow who's been saying that Russia and Trump colluded in 2016 and divided the whole country for years every day talking about that? What about the wars the media has gotten the the public like okay with and involved in like they don't have any you know there's no check down yeah there's no check down right you know Rachel Maddow you said Trump was a Russian agent for two years and it was wrong you're off the air but Alex Jones says something that's you know taking out of context but also not good but let's be fair. Alex is wild.

Alex is wild, but Alex is wild about a lot of stuff. I know, I know. But he's bonkers, bro. Like, that motherfucker, he makes, he's like a, he is a comedy, he is a, He's brilliantly entertaining. He is a comedy. He's so funny.

So annoying, he is a comedy enigma. He's a weirdo, psycho. I mean, he says it. He's like, I'm fucking crazy, man. I'm fucking out of my fucking mind. Not gonna lie. Kind of retarded. Yeah, he's out of his fucking mind, dude man i'm fucking out of my fucking mind i'm not gonna lie kind of retarded yeah he's out of his fucking mind dude that dude's out of his fucking mind but anyway he was right about but i know what you're saying i know body parts i came out this

week he said that five years ago well he said a lot of he said he said a lot of crazy things that people um uh hate to uh admit like he talked about the um frogs turning gay yeah yeah that frogs the uh the sheep no he talked about the about the YouTube, the president of YouTube. They have that audio of that, or one of the, I think it's YouTube, that had said that they wanted to shut down Ben Shapiro. It was this private leaked audio, and she was like, oh, you locked down Alex Jones. And she was like, yeah, we'd love to take down Ben Shapiro.

And she's like, I know I hate that piece of shit, but like he doesn't violate, you know? And it's crazy to hear that because you're like, yeah, again, like we talked about, there are sub-agendas to every every major corporation i don't care who it is i don't care what it is they all have their own little agendas for business and progress and also for political line would you agree that they're mostly nine out of ten more maybe nine out of a hundred are left-leaning or lean to the political left i can't name one corporation that does that for the right and it's not even not even fox news i mean i don't know i mean again does that for the right. And it's not even Fox News.

I mean, again, that's a huge thing for me to say. That's big. That's a grand statement. I would say a lot of the corporations that we come into contact with on our daily basis tend to side more with a left agenda. But I feel like that's just – It's something called Sullivan's or O'Sullivan's Law, I think. It's basically like the right,

people on the right who own companies won't discriminate when they hire. They'll hire right and left. People on the left when they hire really only want to hire

left-leaning people. And that's why the companies who are owned by right-leaning people tend to drift left over time. Well, but also at the same time, a lot of companies

like where I come from in the Midwest, you know, you don't talk about that stuff like politics and religion you shut your fucking mouth you know what i mean like that's i think there is a there i think that happens more than anything that's why i can't comment about how many companies tech and media i know we're consuming every i know what you're saying but again like like i said before i i always will go i don't know or i'll i'm ignorant to it so i can't that's too hard for me to be like this i know my specifics

but like I know, you know, I know in the Midwest where I come from, McDonald's is a massive fucking corporation and their headquarters is out in Chicago. And there are a lot of people that we've known that are family friends that have worked for that fucking massive company. And a lot of them are left and a lot of them are right.

And they're allowed to be. And that's just how it is. And their ideas may not align with the company's public ideas, but that's just the working systems of the world do you know what i mean like that's it's the way it goes it's the way it should go is oh you're a democrat oh you're a republican i didn't know you just work at my company and it doesn't fucking matter to me because you come here and do your fucking job

come here work at the poison food factory don't talk about politics that's right that's right that's right billions and billions by the way dude, I had some poison the other day. I had some McDonald's. Dude, I hadn't had McDonald's in the longest time. What's your go-to order? Well, dude, I haven't had it in years, right? Because I stopped eating. I'm a meat eater. I love meat.

But I stopped eating fast food meat because I was like, I just never felt good. I was always like, I don't feel good. I'd rather just go get my own burger and cook it myself. You know what I mean? And it would make me feel like shit for real and also because i would fucking order 50 you know what i mean it's not just one burger i'm having nuggets i'm having burgers i'm having a shake i'm having like i don't stop it's not like yeah and then that's the problem i feel like with fast food truly for me is like i can't it's not like i'm like fast food is bad you should no one should have it it's like whatever dude everything breathing in los angeles air is fucking probably just just as bad but you know

my problem is i want all of it but my go-to for years was i'd get a big mac uh large fry nuggets and coke because coke from mcdonald's is is drugs it's heroin it's sex it's everything that you ever thought was going to be delicious is the coke from there so yeah big mac nuggets fries and a coke is my like that's my exact thing too um but it's diet coke believe it or not some people just like the flavor more it hurts my teeth when i do this too much sugar yeah i just love a good old health conscious decision by me no fucking cares whatever but i have been ordering a lot of nuggets lately. You're a nugget king, huh? I'm a nugget king, Big Mac guy. I actually had a Big Mac on the way.

I drove from Tulsa to LA a couple months ago. And I had- That's where McDonald's happens on road trips, by the way. Yeah, exactly. And I had a Big Mac and they forgot to put the cheese on it. And it kind of just like ruined every Big Mac going forward for some reason. I'd be so mad. I'd burn that McDonald's to the ground. but i'll have the poison once in a while

i mean who cares i fucking dude i had a yeah i had uh big mac with bacon i never had it with bacon and i was like oh shit this is like top-notch shit i felt so fucking good dude i unbuttoned my pants i was sitting in this room i i had missed the dinner that they had on set and everybody was like how good was that fucking mcdonald's i'm like you know exactly how good it was it's as good as it's always gonna be man yeah it's the same when i was a kid as it is now it feels fucking i hate when people are like i don't eat fast food it's trash you're like all right don't make me feel bad for liking some shit once in a while i don't i don't fucking talk shit about the things that you do i don't shit on people that don't eat meat or eat gluten or whatever the trend is like you do you i'm still allowed to do whatever the fuck i want you know like let me still eat my little shit meal once

in a while that's why that's why we're america we can eat our shit meal and have good conversation about fucking nonsense you know yeah at the end of the day um what do you think what's a good summation of what you think would fix tensions what would what would help hardcore lovers and haters of trump gain a little bit more ground trump's not that bad trump's not right yeah that's like exactly what I've been doing lately because in the beginning, you know, we had to, it was a little bit of a fight. The people in the streets were crazy.

We had to show them that they're crazy and whatever. But now it's like, all right, cool. Let's all come together around something. Let's all agree that the media on both sides is manipulating people and trying to scare us. They want us in chaos and confusion. They want us in like darkness. They want us to be scared and look to them to,

do you think they've always done that? I think they, he has done pretty good job of, of fear and threat. I think in the last few years, in the last few years, I don't know what it was in the last like 10 years, maybe since nine 11,

the last 20 years, things have just really changed where like 10 years ago, you'll see Chuck Schumer being like, don't call them undocumented, call them illegal immigrants. We need a wall. We can't afford it. It's horrible to employ these people.

We need to blah, blah, blah. And then like six years later, he's like, oh, Trump's racist for wanting a wall. And like Obama voted for a wall. Hillary voted for a wall at some point in history. I mean like 10 years ago. But all of a sudden, like it became this PC activism journalism. So journalism left like being objective there used to be a rule in the news we have to do at least 10 minutes of the other side that got taken out

news became 24-hour news cycle activism journalism clickbait manipulate scare everybody oh my god trump's gonna end the world today because of this oh my god you're gonna die to marcus and trump because of this and they just like completely changed the news cycle in like a satanic way i think it's very satanic if you ask me and it's just like now they want people to submit and be afraid and i think people are and they are yeah that's the problem well that's the problem is you're preying on it's like look what's gonna happen that trump's gonna win again in 2020 it's like six more years i've talked about that i've talked about that on stage um and people boo me and uh i say i am not not, I'm not, I'm not why Trump's going to get elected. I'm not up here saying I'm voting for Trump.

I'm telling you a fact, which is what I love doing. I go, this guy has the highest likelihood of winning again and people hate me. And I'm like, dude, I didn't put him in office. I'm just telling you statistically most of our presidents go twice anyway before any other fact that you take into consideration about who he's running against who the competition may be what the numbers are looking like go to just like the the most bland nonsensical fact is most presidents that serve one tend to serve two that's just the way our country works so i was like just look at it like that to begin with and then you can get into the other statistical numbers over his approval rating versus who's in the running from the Democrat side.

And people get mad at me, but I think it's funny because I'm like, dude, you're skipping over pertinent information that like our country tends to have a lot of patterns. We do this a lot with a lot of things, in fact, where we tend to give things other tries, second chances, other goes, or we like things the way they are. For a country that is trying to push, you know, this democratic narrative on the news, you're like, most of these people are conservative in the idea that they don't really want that much change. And the idea that the majority of the country, even if you're a lefty,

a lot of lefties don't want that much change. You kind of like things to stay a little bit steady the way they are. Even in this fact where they're like, oh, I fucking hate Trump. And it's like, well, then maybe you want more of them to hate for the next fucking four years. Ironically, maybe they want more. But the left has gone so far that it's like, oh, the world's going to end in 11 years because of climate change. We need $93 trillion.

Don't you hope it does, though? Let's get rid of this fucking place. I don't want to be around anymore. Yeah, then let's fucking party. I'm not paying students to go in debt. I'm not doing this. I'm not going to work a real job. I'm just going to do whatever I want for 11 years.

I've said this. We've had this discussion. We had this with a couple of friends the other night. It's like, do I think climate change, do I think the climate has changed on the Earth? Yeah. Well, this is a rock in outer space that has no pattern. I mean, we do have a pattern,

but as far as hurtling through the universe, Well, this is a rock in outer space that has no pattern. I mean, we do have a pattern, but as far as hurtling through the universe... Ripping. We just... There's no idea. There's no... This is supposed to happen. This is the first time we've ever been on this thing. It's millions of years old.

What's to say that this isn't the Earth being like, I need to regenerate. I'm going to kill all these things soon, and that's just how it has to go. Because, you know, it was frozen for a long time. It rained for like a thousand years. Do you feel like this has gone through dramatic change? And then we assume that we are the,

that's how me, me, me humans are, that we're like, it's about us. We did this, we need to fix it. And you're like, don't you also know that this thing has a thing of its own? It does everything on its own. You know that, right? It's been around for billions of years now it's gonna end in 20 20 28

and by the way it let's just say it did then that would be almost kismet don't you think that it's like it did that on earth because it was our time maybe that's a universal thing now i'm getting philosophical but like perhaps human existence was only supposed to become this far and go to this point and then that's it like yeah maybe that's the world and someone's like the earth will cure its cancer yeah we're it dude get us off of this motherfucker i believe that's the one thing that i think is the most uh probably non-partisan viewpoint i have about global warming is when someone's like do you believe in it and i'm like i guess maybe sure if you tell me climate has changed and we've we've we've gone up and down and there's scientific research and evidence to prove it sure i don't

attribute that directly to human beings i think there's a million factors that aren't even being talked about like we're in fucking outer space on a rock that makes no sense like yeah people are looking at this like it's a very finite obvious thing that you can talk about it's like saying like why my engine light came on you're like well because you put in the wrong fucking oil it's like no no that's we're not a car dude this is a stone it that this is so nonsensical that we're even on this thing that unfortunately i think this might be the fucking end do i think that we should do our part to help the universe yeah i'm not gonna sit here and be like not worried about environmental, being conscious about helping out. Like littering is gross.

Don't be a pig. Don't be a piece of shit. Also, there's a billion people in India. The pollution is higher than ever right now. What are you going to do? Yeah, China follows none of the rules. Yeah, like so what do you think we're a 350 million person country like there's seven billion more humans i don't know why like america does this weird trick where they're like it's us

and it is yeah part of our detriment to be like it's all about us you're like not really i mean we're not shit the globe is huge i don't know what you want me to tell you but like we're not going to be the catalyst for like everything solving itself i just don't know what you want me to tell you but like we're not going to be the catalyst for like everything solving itself i i just don't buy that like you can tell me that we can be better as humans in our consumption in our exposition in our in everything yeah okay cool i'm i'm down to like improve life i think that's that's human to be like let's let's let me be a better person let me be nicer to people let me be more conscious more thoughtful let me let me obtain more information yeah do all these things let me be better as a thing but also don't fucking yell at me outside of trader joe's because i'm using

plastic you know like cut it the fuck out what are you out of your fucking mind like exactly the plastic bag being illegal that's a perfect example of it where it's like oh yeah let's make the plastic bags illegal because we want to save the planet okay cool now all the homeless people take dumps on the street because they used to dump in the plastic bags and now it's like oh no give them the shit bags dude give them shit bags meanwhile i have friends that don't even pick up their dog poop you know and you know who the fuck you are so mad we've had this discussion multiple friends of mine are like i don't do it i'm like really you're a fucking asshole and they're like why it's fertilizer i'm like yeah but i'm gonna step in it like i'm i'm bound to step in that shit now i have poop on my shoe that

goes in my car that goes in my house i i stepped in human shit in downtown i used to live in skid row area you did and i stepped in human shit in my in jordan's i just threw him away it was like fuck it yeah i had to i had to i can't clean these dude i was like i'll never recover from this yeah poop is permanent what do i do like go like into like a like a sink in my kitchen and start like no you know what's so funny so i had shit on my shoes and they were my favorite new running shoes and i um bought a toothbrush bought like a 99 cent toothbrush at cvs and i went out to the hose and I was hosing my shoe and I was like toothbrushing shit out of my fucking shoe and at some point my feelings

were hurt so bad by doing this that I was like I just this is not this is ridiculous like I'll just this is so dumb that I'm poop cleaning I'm never going to get all the poop out of the crevices there's just poop layered in the fucking all like the so I gave them to my friend

I gave them to my buddy I gave them my shit shoes i'm gonna throw him away i gave him away but anyway um but i think like uh i could talk to you for hours and hours i mean my you know this is what i think gains us ground as human beings is like you know we don't necessarily agree on everything we don't have the same viewpoint you know like I'm not a Trump lover. Would you agree he's not that bad? I would agree that... As bad as the media says? I don't think anything is what the media says. That's a more grand statement.

Do you hope he does well? I hope our country doesn't get into... I don't want our president to fail. That's an absurdist thing. You hope we avoid war? You hope we improve the economy? I don't want to start a war but i also i also don't want um i don't want success at the detriment of i don't want success of our country at the detriment to things that we care

about right like i don't on on either side i don't want things to get better for one party to make it worse for someone else that is a a nonsense, utopian, idealist, idyllic world of like, I want everyone to be happy. I don't think that's really possible, but I want a better balance of the world. I think my focus is more like, I want more people to stop throwing stones at each other because we're killing,

I think we're hurting ourselves more. You did this, you're condemned, you're canceled from life. It's like, really? Is that how you really want want to be because politically you don't agree with certain things because politics tends to be the root of all these cancellations of human beings it's like you're canceling outside of the entertainment industry you know it's like people get canceled called out people get thrust into a negative viewpoint because people tend to not agree with them in some way or they don't like the way that they live it's like that's silly we have to live amongst each other if you're

not violating law which i am adamant about you know like in the me too movement hey if you're fucking sexually abusing women if you're physically abusing women sexually and you're violating law prosecutable law where i can take you to court. Okay, then fuck you. You're a piece of shit. Let's do process. But if you're not, if you have been accused of saying something brash to a woman that's disgusting and incorrect,

come on, I don't think you should be canceled and go to fucking social jail for that. I think there should be an examination of who you are. I think we should have conversation about what is crossing a line, what's inappropriate. But I don't think you should lose your life because of language. I don't believe in that.

I think that's absurd. I think that's the most anti-American thing I've ever heard. He said my tits look nice. Throw him out forever. It's like, well, let's talk to him about why he thinks your tits are nice. Yeah, exactly. Let's see why he approached it from that perspective.

It may be a little incorrect of him to say that out loud. It may be wrong and stupid. Well, let's teach people instead of fucking burning people. That's the irony that I find is like publicly like a lot of left-leaning people are against the death penalty, right? Well, how come you're so okay with just leveling someone's life then? Isn't the whole idea to get rid of the death penalty from the left perspective,

so talk and learn from these people? Talk to a serial killer. Let's find out why they are the way they are. Let's find out their social cognitive theories over why they are a rapist or murderers or whatever, right? You want to dissect that. Well, why don't you do that for people that fuck up on human scales, that say the wrong thing, that did something inappropriate? It's like, you don't want to talk to these people? You didn't want to kill that guy because he fucking killed somebody, but you don't want to

talk to someone because he thinks differently or his world viewpoint is different than yours? To me, that's the parallel. It's like you shouldn't cancel and shut humans down and write them off just because they are, they didn't do what you agree with or they did a violation of what you think human laws are, social laws, whatever that may be, you know?

Dude, I believe if you violate law, we need to prosecute you. You steal from me, we should prosecute. You know what I mean? Like you kill, you hurt, you violate the laws that we have in place, let's fucking prosecute you. If you're guilty, you're guilty.

If you're innocent, you're innocent. But when it comes to like this world over like, you know, like Canada saying hate speech or what you can and cannot say can get you prosecuted, that is a scary, fucked up, insane thing to me. That's crazy talk. Yeah, I totally agree. That's on some fascist bullshit. Like that's fucking, the term fascism gets thrown around.

It's like you throwing people fucking in jail because of words. That sounds like fascism, dude. That's bananas. You can't go to prison for words is weird. Like unless those words are kill these humans. And it's like they do it in Europe, too, where people complain about the migrants that are coming into these countries. And there's like more rapes. There's more crimes.

And they complain and they go get arrested. And it's like, but what about the rapes and the crimes? Right, right, right. Oh yeah, they get arrested for saying it. You're getting arrested for saying like, hey, these guys came over here and they have no papers and at night they do horrible things in the streets and they're living on the ground

and there's trash everywhere and they're kind of destroying our city. This is fucked up. And they're like, oh, you're under arrest for being insensitive and mean and whatever the ism they call you. But it's like, so i'm not allowed to say that that's going to keep happening it's going to keep getting worse and i think europe's toast because of that basically well europe's got too many issues a lot of issues dude europe is i mean we can't brexit will take us another three

hours to get i'm glad that you have that point of view and that's great and i think that's kind of rare in hollywood i think people are kind of more into the cancel stuff well i think i think you'd find it more in in the comedic universe like in the and comedians and people that our job is to talk for a living and speak our mind for a living it's like um you know i think there's a lot more people that align with this belief system and more of us are more vocally adamant about it now to be like no i mean i'm being a little fucking heavy-headed but i i think it's just logic at some point you're like this is logic dude it's not this isn't that dynamic i think if you violate law we prosecute you because that's what we've done for years and

if it's not a violation of law then we should have a cultural examination of something i just feel like that seems pretty basic on a very like humanistic level just like this just like what you do for your your job is like, you go talk to people that disagree with you. Okay, well, that's literally what I think we have to do to reach some sort of like common ground again, to feel like, oh, we can all kind of kick it and feel differently.

And it's not, they don't come to Thanksgiving anymore. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's a silly idea, dude. These are still like, we still have to talk about stuff we still have that's that's how that's how humans will progress we'll go backwards if we're starting to segregate again you know what i mean like and that's becoming a new theme like i you know like people want segregation and i'm like you want to fucking you want to go backwards what if we had a graduation just for black people and then one just for white people?

And kind of it's like that's how progressive you are. You're so like we used to do that. Remember? And you hated that. Remember when that was wrong? Like what the fuck? Segregation is our that is our enemy, dude. And segregation of political beliefs, of race, of class, of of your morals, your way of life.

Like when you start to segregate groups and then you only associate with those groups, that's when we're fucked as humans. We're fucked when you can't talk to people from other sides of the fence. You are fucked. Because guess what? That's not how it works when you grow up. I think that's the other problem that I find is like

when you're young and you kind of are so staunch in your belief system, you're like, that's fine. But when you become an adult, my neighbors, okay? We may all disagree on a lot of stuff. He could love Trump. He could hate Trump. She could hate Trump. She could love Trump. We still have to live amongst one another and be humans to each other, right? That to me is the basis of all this shit. And when you grow up, you have to learn to interact with people in the real world who don't think like you think. That's just living like a fucking human adult in America. And the more that I think we can kind of get to this place of like,

we can have good conversation and we can talk to you. We've had some laughs. It's like, you can get there. We're going to be better people. I fucking hope. Or we're dead. And I think it's going to be through comedy and entertainment, like you said before,

that's going to be the key that everyone can kind of ease into the conversation. I was working at like a day player, just doing like a PA, a production assistant job. And I was working with this guy, Eddie, one of my best friends at the time. And he was a DACA kid from Guatemala, really nice kid. And we would like make jokes with each other. He'd make fun of me for being white.

I'd call him, we used to listen to Pitbull on the radio, so I'd call him Calle Ocho. And in the beginning, he was like, oh, you can't call me that. That's racist. I'm like, no, it's not, dude. Like, me making fun of you for being Guatemalan, are you making fun of me for being Italian or fat or whatever? It's like, that means you see me as an equal,

and you're kind of like throwing a jab. And you know I can take it because I don't see it as punching down. But the left has made those kind of jokes like racist and sexist you can't say it and it's almost like if i do make fun of you for your race or your sexuality it's because i see you as an equal and i'm messing around if you tell me it's because i'm here and this person's here and i'm going like that and punching down to him then like you ruin comedy and you can't connect anymore right oh i'm not allowed to say that so like i have to just be hello eddie you know see you at work today i can't mess around with you because i'm scared of being called racist because i'm here and you're here and it's like that's how i think

comedy got ruined in a way not obviously not all the way but like it kind of got ruined where we're like not able to connect with each other like we used to because now there's like this privilege totem pole see i find i know what you're saying but i also find i find that it's um it's still the same as it always was it's just people are more sly about the way they go about it right i still make fun of my friends if we still shit on each other the way that we always have the people that don't look like me you know i'm saying like every black or asian or brown friend that i have we all still talk the same shit it's just we're just you're quieter about it you know i mean like that's just

the truth i think the i think the entire country still jokes the same way they've always joked i just think um people are just it's more inside of your house than it used to be you know what i mean and again i'm not talking about ignorant, bad, shitty, racist jokes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking friends being friends because I don't think comedy is at risk of dying. It will only get stronger

as times get more... Listen, dude, as times get worse, comedy always gets stronger. That's literally how it works. You know what I mean? Ask the baby boomers about what their parents lived through. You know, when we came home from war,

when America is victorious, it's this time of, like, flash and entertainment and song and everyone's excited. But when there isn't a lot of, like, internal struggle in the United States, comedy tends to have this weird lull. When we start to go through major social problems, comedy booms, baby. You know what I mean? Like, the revolution of comedy

always happens when America is up against the wall. So, oddly enough, for what it's worth, like, I love it when there's a lot of problems in America because I got something to joke about.

You know, like, we have something to talk shit about. I get someone to fuck with, you know? Yeah. If everything is happy-go-lucky, comedy doesn't exist.

And I think the beauty of comedy is, like, we get to shit on how fucking insane this is. I would dread living in a perfect world. Yeah, yeah. Nothing would be funny anymore, dude. You'd be fucking boring as shit. There'd be nothing for us to hold on to. There's something beautiful about combative sides of our world. Like like it's nice that we don't all agree

that's what's funny about comedy it's funny when i go to japan and they laugh at me and they point because they orange is really rare that's funny dude yeah it's beautiful we're different they're not saying kill this man they're saying he is a weird you look like this tree you know this guy he kept saying i look like a tree i look like this tree you know this guy he kept saying i look like a tree i look like there was this orange blossom tree he's like his he says you look like the tree we laughed i did look like the fucking tree yeah you know what i mean like like people they want to connect that's how you bond that's how you bond that's how you connect and come together and if you don't get discouraged by like the child sacrificing devil worshiping pedophiles

you'll come together and you'll be friends again. And if you listen to the other people, then they want you divided and scared. Yeah, see? We did this well. I feel like this was very good. I can't wait to see what people say about this. Yeah, if you're writing negative comments, I didn't say anything that crazy. No, no.

Well, you know what's so funny? Why did I say I was really that outrageous? My fans tend to be, like I said, they tend to be just, I hate to say, I don't like a label. I don't like to say I'm down the middle because I think that also is a cheap, but I like to just think I have a delicate balance of I like some things on the right. I like some things on the left. I'm just a human who dissects things. I take them, I take them i take them i i or i i decide i disseminate whether or not i agree with them and then i move forward i don't

always go this is how i am that is how i am i just i don't know how people live like that has to be case by case it's case by case for me yes and i and i think my fans are the same way i think they know it's like check it out dude check it out talk to someone who's a Trump supporter if you're not a Trump supporter, and vice versa. It's like, have conversations with human beings. I mean, otherwise, we deserve the rock that's going to hit us, and we deserve the hole to open up

and burn us to the ground. And when it does happen, I'll have liked this moment either way. This was worth it. So it was good. Let's burn this motherfucker. Fuck it. I'll think of you before I die.

Right before I die. Fleckus will be the last guy that I think of because we have to fucking, we have to keep moving, baby. Otherwise, what is this for? Who gives a shit, you know? Have fun, dude. Do some drugs.

You do drugs? I've done pretty much everything. Okay, cool. I always say, do drugs, have a drink, kiss that human that you want to kiss, with permission. Kiss that human you want to kiss. Have some fun. Do whatever you you fucking want to do i don't give a shit what you do just leave me alone do your thing um check fleck us out we're gonna put it in the fucking description below fleckus talks is the

name of the show um it's excellent dude i'm glad you came i really appreciate this this is fun this is cool dude we uh we need to continue this kind of nonsense, but check him the fuck out. I'll link everything in the description. As for me, I'm on the road again in November, so you can go to andrewsantino.com for all those dates and all that jazz. And then January, February, March, I'm touring again. We're going to start up the big fucking

Whiskey Ginger Tour, bitch. So thank you for listening. Shout out to Fleckus. We're out. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. We're out.