Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Jak Knight

Episode Date: December 28, 2018

Santino sits down with Jak Knight (Big Mouth, Netflix) to talk about black Twitter, late night TV and The Comedy Store vs the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Ginger. I like gingers. How you living living baby boy? Yes, welcome to Whiskey Ginger, cheers Cheers, cheers, cheers My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth Don't be flattered I say that for all my guests But I really mean it with you Is Mr. Jack Knight
Starting point is 00:00:34 Jack Knight, thanks for coming through Hi I'm excited, we were talking off camera Before this got started Yeah About the Me Too movement You had some comments, go for it I'm one of those people
Starting point is 00:00:45 who are like super, I'm as with the Idris Elba comment where he was just saying if you have nothing to hide, you'll be totally fine. I feel that way, but I just want to see. That's what a white dad says,
Starting point is 00:00:55 by the way. That's a very white dad when it's like, well, if you got nothing, let the government have your computer. Right, but everything, I'm a big believer in karma.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I'm a big believer in everything circles around. And so all these women and all these gay people who are talking hell of shit it's gonna come and hit y'all coming back it always starts with white men you think so it goes to black people then it's gonna go to white women then it's gonna go to black women who trickles down and then gay niggas is next and that's gonna be so funny is that that's all gay people me too when gay people are getting me too too i'm from seattle man these gay niggas be pushing each other so wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute so you think it starts from the most privileged to the least privileged will eventually get me tooed as well
Starting point is 00:01:33 yeah it won't be as big of an article right but within the community that that it is people will know so white dudes yeah white women no black dudes black dudes just because you're still a dude just because you're still a dude Just cause you're still a dude White dude Black dude And Me Too is about the Whoever has the power Right so white dude
Starting point is 00:01:50 Black dude White woman Black woman And then like You know The miscellaneous Then Okay then genderless
Starting point is 00:01:57 No like they're in between But we don't really like Non gender specific Yeah Then Then blind Gay people without a right arm Yeah Yeah yeah Then Then parapleg without a right arm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah, yeah. Then paraplegics who are mutes. Then firefighters. They fit right in. Yeah, they're right down there. So it is funny because I was talking about this with Moses. We were talking after I did that podcast. And it is funny to think how many people who are pointing a lot of fingers, they point
Starting point is 00:02:24 fingers because they point fingers because they got something to hide. So the first person to throw a stone to me obviously lives in a glass house and they don't think about it. I don't know who I was... Somebody on Twitter, there was a comedian on Twitter who was talking crazy shit about not performing where Louis performed. Those people, those comedians? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 One... Why do you need to say...'s my point Me and Sam Jay You know the No I love Sam Jay Very great comedian Close friend of mine We always talk about this If you can't hoop
Starting point is 00:02:51 What you do is judge the court Right Right If you can't Like if there's people Who can't go to the comic store And do the OR Right
Starting point is 00:02:59 That can do festivals with me And do other alt shows with me And I do more alt shows Than I think you do Yeah you do Yeah I used to But I quit Yeah but I do hella alt shows and so like when i do the i could do both and when people like oh you do the fucking comedy story i must all you had to do was run up there and say gay or like no you don't you gotta talk to an australian that's fucking hard yeah you gotta
Starting point is 00:03:17 talk to a tourist at at 1 a.m in the morning right see i think that's that's a huge misconception i used to do a lot of alt shows i've talked about i think on this podcast before i do a lot of alt or Eastside shows when I first started because that's all there was. I wasn't at the store. The scene's dying, though. Well, let me tell you why the scene is dying. And that's exactly, that's a perfect way to talk about it. Because I did it back then because that was a great outlet for young comics who were writing a lot to do shit. And I stopped doing it because I felt there was such a click, a bullshit click mentality that wasn't predicated upon how funny you were.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It was all about localized status it was another high school back of the room laugh exactly big issue but it was another high school of the kids in high school
Starting point is 00:03:52 who weren't good at being in high school well that's the irony right none of these people were cool in high school so now they're cool there and I'm not talking everyone in that community I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:03:58 it started to become that way for me about five or six years ago so I quit I quit going you just stopped doing the spots because I've seen you at shows. We've done all shows together.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We've done all shows together. I just stopped asking or talking. You know, like, that's an old show right there. You know, like, I used to go to Nerd Melt. Right, right, right. I used to do all that shit.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And I still love a lot of those people that I started with. Great comedians in there. But it started to become such a clicky thing that, like, the irony was they were talking shit about the comedy store.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Like, that was the click. But I was like, no, bro, this is such a high school league click thing over there it is a click just like any fucking any business has a click of moving up but you had to be funny as fuck to kill on those stages yeah to get to the stage to kill on the stage but like in in defense of what they were kind of saying the comedy store does allow a lot of uh bullshit motherfuckers off the fraternity aspect of it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Truth. But I think they're cutting down on that. They are, but I got passed because I followed... You're one of the bullshit motherfuckers that know it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But no, Adam passed me because he put me after Rogan doing 30. Yeah, good luck. So it's like, if you can't follow Rogan doing Rogan,
Starting point is 00:05:02 that place is built by Rogan. And the cheap shot that someone could say is, and by the way, I'm not taking shots at anybody in the community whatsoever. I'm just saying it's got different for me and it got weird for me. And the comedy store is a way better home for me because, because of that reason, right?
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm not like Joey Diaz, right? Joey Diaz, cocksucker, motherfucker. Dude, I love him. His energy is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's so hard to match. the to me the hardest and most impressive thing in the world is when a comic who's nothing like joey like ali wong or someone like that who is the opposite thing right i love when people who can take something so insanely its own energy and then change it to theirs come on man because i gotta say a lot of the other shows I did around town, it felt like I was listening to the same comic set after set after set. And they all kinda had the same style. But it makes it easier for the audience to consume. Totally.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So that's why everyone kills, no one's really killing, everyone's just kinda riding away with whoever. Everyone's doing well. Yeah, no one's really killing. And that's why, I mean I'm not as high in the lineup as you, but I'll go after a Faheem or I'll go after an Eleanor who are just up there with right and i gotta like okay let me flip this back down and hit like the cool black angle and then right fucking i also do the cool black angle but you do it better than me
Starting point is 00:06:12 honestly you are my first black guest and obviously my last you know i don't you didn't you didn't get byron on this no dude i'm hey listen you know what's so funny is out of all the friends i have in this business I'm going out to people that I am really interested in and and a lot of the people I've reached out to
Starting point is 00:06:30 either don't don't have time right now or they really want to do it but it's just like everything is kind of you know it's kind of hard
Starting point is 00:06:36 it's a weird time in comedy but I'm gonna get everyone that we love that you know I know and everyone loves you so it's like a very
Starting point is 00:06:42 you'll be fine we'll see no like I've never heard a bad thing about you I could tell I'm gonna email you a whole list of shit that I've heard I plant mics all over the place and I find out what people are saying about me I'm fucking them up
Starting point is 00:06:53 but what I do want to talk to you about actually one of the dudes in here was talking about it earlier was black Twitter the idea of black Twitter and it's prominence right now and what's going on. All the jokes, every single joke from late night is stolen from black Twitter and it's really fucked up. It's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:07:10 How come no one's talking about it? How come it's not getting more heat and more weight? The people who talk about things and the people who circulate the ideas and circulate the articles and the split-siders and the vultures, this is my point. And this is no shade to anyone who did the Netflix 15 15 that i did sure you did them i did them yeah tim dylan and sam jay weren't on any list for the netflix 15s what do you mean by that they
Starting point is 00:07:34 weren't like oh any of the um it's all narrative built right everything is narrative built and it's like fucking sucks because this is the one place you're supposed to go to destroy narratives it's comedy totally that's what the whole thing is built on top of. That's why we do it. That's why Lenny Bruce is butt ass naked from the cops four. Right. He died booty naked just so we can talk shit about narrative. And then you're going to add more narrative with these other articles and shit. And so the reason
Starting point is 00:07:56 why no one brings up these black Twitter arguments is like okay if we bring up all these facts then Zach Fox, Javon, Jaboukie, Nonu, all these amazing black Twitter writers, they're going to take their jobs. Right. So if they write the articles about black Twitter writing all the jokes, the niggas
Starting point is 00:08:13 who are writing for Vulture, the niggas who are writing for Splitsider, they want to write for Colbert. They want to write for Seth Meyers. Of course. So if they bring light to the people who they're stealing the jokes from, that means they're knocking themselves off the position to get to the job right and it's just it's just some white supremacy shit because in reality every if every colbert joke is just every punchline is some shit from the gay community every punchline is some shit from the black community every punchline is some
Starting point is 00:08:36 shit from the black female community and then and once you once you bring light to that thing the people who bring light to shit are white right but but how then then explain to me this when it is an inherent black joke the the a late night show takes it and makes it white and their spin because they soften it or they cut the edges off you mean like they just you still gotta talk to this crowd you still gotta talk to the people who go and see ellen in the middle of the day they're not gonna understand the very deep cut of a black twitter joke well it's too meta right it's too meta, right? It's too meta. So they got to say the easiest black Twitter thing. But what we have to do now as a comedian,
Starting point is 00:09:09 and you know this just like anyone else, is like we have to play both. We have to be able to go to the motherfucking middle of Omaha and still be like funny, but then also not be hacked, consider, to black Twitter. Well, I have to, I guess. Well, you have to. Well, not everyone has to.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Everyone has some semblance of a duty to try to do that but my biggest thing is like you know a lot of my humor tends to be I tend to get a little bit racial but like
Starting point is 00:09:32 anybody who knows me knows the reason I do that is because I know how uncomfortable and weird people get about racial topics it's so weird but I need to feed that
Starting point is 00:09:41 I need to feed them that because I feel like it's important for us to joke about these things otherwise we corner ourselves into a place where you're like i only tell these kind of jokes i i don't i don't uh i don't i won't touch on oh i don't touch that stuff so but why that's the that's that to me that's the whole freeing point about this you can say you can talk shit about a white dude just as much as i should be able to talk shit about you right if it's a if it's a if to talk shit about you right if it's a if
Starting point is 00:10:05 it's a if it's a good point right if it's a funny point but the problem the problem with you're saying is there's been so many people with your skin tone has made garbage jokes about it totally and so you're living in there i have to fight out of you're living in their rubble unless your joke has to be fucking brilliant right to dig out of their rubble to whereas that's why i do so many fucking gay jokes or bitches jokes. I'm not a woman and I'm not gay. I like the challenge as much as... I mean, I've sucked as many dicks as the best.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Time has yet to tell. Time has yet to fucking tell. But I think it's a duty for you to kind of push the limits of things like that. Just because you're not gay and you're not a woman doesn't mean you can't joke about these things as long as the angle is right. My point has always been, if the angle is good, if the joke is clever and if it's very funny, it't matter by the way when i do racial shit some of the first people or maybe the only people that laugh are usually black people and black people come up to
Starting point is 00:10:52 me after shows all the time that are like yo that was so funny because you don't get nervous you don't you don't uh give up yourself there's a lot of white people who tell black jokes you can feel them either there's hatred behind well they probably don't like black people to begin or or or there's fear behind it right and so if you if you go into that's why I see a lot of white comics
Starting point is 00:11:08 or black comics go into black rooms and bomb cause they come in there with fear and black people are like when you show fear to black people it's like discomfort to them right
Starting point is 00:11:16 it's discomfort to black people that you're uncomfortable around them black people sniff out sniff out fear and that makes them uncomfortable and it's not like they're not sharks they're not tigers
Starting point is 00:11:23 they're not lions they're human beings no but they can tell when someone is not in and they're like why are you uncomfortable with me bro what's wrong with you that's racist right and so they're not sharks. They're not tigers. They're not lions. They're human beings. No, but they can tell when someone is not in. And they're like, why are you uncomfortable with me, bro? What's wrong with you? That's racist. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And so they're like, why the fuck are you in here being uncomfortable, bro? Because it is. It is. When you see a black comic bomb in a black room who's trying to do black jokes or black center jokes and they bomb, what's the root of all that? They're just bad. They're just garbage. They're just trash.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah, they're garbage. Black rooms are very, people always try to like, I was watching the Charlie Murphy. When he got booed? No, the unsung thing. Oh, I was like. But that was a part of it. But it was a Hollywood unsung and because of the Chappelle show, Charlie Murphy had a giant white fan base in the first.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Massive. And white audiences are patient. Patience is a part of white culture. Patience is a part of white culture. Patience is a part of white culture. We're not supposed to get upset. But also patience
Starting point is 00:12:08 is a good virtue for comedy because you need to get to the next thing and the next thought on stage. But black people don't have time for that. They have a babysitter
Starting point is 00:12:17 and they go go do the thing bro. No but I think it's also even more than the joke even more than that being hilarious is culturally culturally the way that black people tend to like humor, in my opinion, that I dole out is quick and funny and very real. They want it fast and real.
Starting point is 00:12:36 So if it has any kind of like hints of being like inflated or fake, I think black audiences, in my opinion, just don't like fake, cheap, kind of like corniness. And white audiences are willing to sit through that shit if you have something else. Or they fucking love it. Or they fucking love it.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Or you murder out in Omaha. No, but I think that's, but it's interesting, the black Twitterverse and stealing jokes is wild. I think there's no doubt about it in my mind that that'll take over comedy within the next five years.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Do you think there ever will be a black late night host? Yeah, there's one now. You know what I mean on the prime, on the main networks, on ABC, NBC, CBS. I bet Money Charlamagne will get a show on prime time.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You think so? Yeah. They're queuing him up. He's on Colbert literally like every month. Who's the black dude now that's on? You're talking about Yeah but I mean on prime time television I mean on like ABC
Starting point is 00:13:28 NBC CBS Right yeah Cause Trevor on the Comedy Central show And that's not traditionally A late night show As much as that is A political
Starting point is 00:13:35 Satire show It's a comedy It's a news parody Right yeah yeah But But I don't know if The medium itself is dying Late night TV
Starting point is 00:13:44 And then the medium That is talking to Is not Black people don't give a fuck're ever The medium itself is dying Late night TV And then the medium that it's talking to is not Black people don't give a fuck about late night TV because we weren't You weren't raised on it We weren't raised on it other than Arsenio And Arsenio got lucky because all of his friends were the most famous Did you like Arsenio? I was too young Do you like the idea of what Arsenio was to the black community?
Starting point is 00:14:01 No What about Oprah? No Has there ever been a black TV host that you're like, that's actually kind of more in line with what I like?
Starting point is 00:14:09 This is my point. There has not been, so I'm older than you. But I don't ever remember, unless it was a comedy show, unless it was like a, like what Chappelle did. Chappelle's show hosting
Starting point is 00:14:19 was probably the closest thing to me caring about hosting. That's what I mean. Yeah. But that could have been just as much of a valid show. a reading rainbow okay and it was education yeah yeah okay i like to learn but i wonder in my lifetime in our lifetime there'll be a black late night house on hunt because because i argue that maybe it is dying a little bit late night
Starting point is 00:14:38 but there could be a resurgence if it's if it's opened up the right way and i'm not trying to attack oh these is a marrow yeah but these is a marrow is such a that's again that's very meta if it's opened up the right way. And I'm not trying to attack. Oh, Desus and Mero. Yeah, but Desus and Mero is such a, that's, again, that's very meta, and those guys are dope, but their show is still for a very specific audience. I'm saying take a original voiced non-white person, put them on late night TV,
Starting point is 00:14:59 and let them run a show the way they would run the show. And I wanna see. I mean, let me put it this way. When Johnny Carson did The Tonight Show, in my opinion, the reason that he was so successful and was such an icon is because Johnny kind of broke a lot of these rules that were set up before him by the other hosts of The Tonight Show.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He wasn't really standard. He wasn't really typical and normal. The only thing that was normal about him was that he was smooth. He was like this smooth cat who was easy going and he made you look good all the time. He was the closest thing to, I the time he was the closest thing to i think conan's the closest thing to him at alleying right i mean conan's incredible i i in my opinion
Starting point is 00:15:31 he's probably the best he's to me he was always my favorite he was the most fun have you done couch with him no never couch i only did the only i did couch on cordon and i did stand up on conan you've done you did stand up on no late nights none i thought you did for some reason no no but do you ever want to no no never no that was funny because i did it i did it once and i don't know if i would want to do it again not for the fact i have any anything against it but like i just don't know if i want to do it i sent in a thing and they're in uh you know jp and all the people like wanted me to do a late night of course and i sent it in and they're like let's move this, this, this. And I was like, no, nigga, what?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah, they wanted to reshape the jokes. They wanted to reshape the jokes, the ideas, what I was saying. I was like, I came here to say this, though. It's hard because I think the idea when we started in comedy, it was always like, get a late night set. That's the thing. And now, for a lot of people, late night sets are not their shit. That's not their shit you know and so um i i just think like times have changed so much that now whatever's happening with netflix and whatever's going on on the internet and trying to break these rules
Starting point is 00:16:35 and these grounds of what stand-up is i think that's that's you know predominantly going to be the future for young comics to go they're not going to go i want a late night set they're going to go you i want to be on that one show where they do that thing. You just gotta get it where you fit it. Everything's becoming so tribal. Like, uh. But it's almost a good thing, dude. It's a great thing.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Because it used to be so narrow. There was a funnel. That only one or two get to get through a year. Yeah, it was a weird funnel. But now you find so many outlets like you, I'm hyping you right now, Big Mouth on Netflix, right? Thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're writing on that show yeah and
Starting point is 00:17:05 that's an incredible outlet for you to tell great comedy through an animated series and it doesn't kind of curb you right you guys are allowed to say whatever the fuck you want if anybody's seen the show it's a dope show you the the topic the exploration of sexuality is so funny and freeing as a comedian to watch and probably to do because we all think of this shit we don't want to talk about we it's just want to talk about it. It's just uncomfortable to talk about sexuality when you're a kid, which by the way is my biggest opinion
Starting point is 00:17:30 about why the country is all fucked up right now. We don't want to talk about the social psychological sexuality of humans. Sexuality, race. We don't want to talk about it. Gay shit. We don't want to talk about it. If we instill all these ideas,
Starting point is 00:17:45 I mean, it's a joke I tell, but it's like i grew i grew up with i grew up with trans kids from seattle like in second or third grade motherfuckers were transitioning in second or third grade so i don't really know did you ever feel like a weird world like you were left out no i was just doing my shit you never felt you know okay there was a there was gay kids there was trans kids right we bully them the same way how many black kids were in your school? I fortunately bounced around to a lot of black neighborhoods, so I never had to compromise myself that much, but I knew how to finesse with white kids. Were any of the trans kids black?
Starting point is 00:18:12 No. No, right. That's a white thing. Well, being trans is obviously, it comes with money. I mean, I don't mean that. You can say whatever you want. But I'm saying all the kids that were trans, they usually came from very rich households, and all the kids That were trans They usually came
Starting point is 00:18:25 From very rich households And then the people Who became trans Later in life Come from poorer households Because So trans at a young age You think comes from wealth
Starting point is 00:18:32 And at a later age Comes from their sexuality Their choice There's so much freedom In liquid money Yeah There's so much more like Yeah you run out of shit
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah I was thinking about that Fuck it I'm a girl now I'm saying you probably are I'm not gonna say What I'm saying you probably are. I'm not going to say what you are inside yourself. You get to just choose faster. Bro.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Right. Bro. We get to do anything faster when you have money. Yeah. I was thinking about that the other day. I was like, the way that one of my richest friends ever, his parents had more money than you could ever imagine. And I noticed one day when I was walking through their house that they had a lot of things. We didn't have a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:19:04 We never had things like like it would be like like a desk with like trinkets or like ornamentation never had any of that things yeah and it always blew my mind because I remember thinking yeah what does that cost like that's money I've never had the opportunity up until now when I'm making my own money but as a kid and as a young adult I never thought about also buying something I didn't need you know what I mean right like when you get money you have the ability to just buy shit that you like art is ridiculous art art is the biggest joke in the world because you're like you have so much money that you'll go i could buy this thing that i think is neat and then look at it sometimes yeah sometimes yeah i'm washing dishes right just because i'm washing i just
Starting point is 00:19:43 now i'm like buying i'm just now buying art and i'm just now like getting trinkets from my house and i was sitting there my homie's staying with me right now and he was like why are you buying all this art why are you getting all these like little things in your house i was like because of women yeah and i was like it's women and i was like oh show that you're not just a blank to show that i'm not like because in my in my real life i would have a couch a tv and a place to do push-ups sometimes when i'm mad right get yourself get yourself a pull-up bar and that would be like my entire apartment that's every dude yeah but like bitches need things to look at because their brains is small i i think women like shit in your
Starting point is 00:20:16 home because it lets them know that you have it together right because but why would that just i have money yeah but see but that but but your monetary value means nothing to a woman if you don't look organized if you don't look like you can compile it in a way that matters to them then you're then you're confused and you're not in a good direction there's something deeper than that what's the deeper thing of that there's something well women are women are nurturers right women are these women love making a home that's instinctual i'm not being sexist that's a real thing women have this nurture they love this to nurture
Starting point is 00:20:45 and to grow and to kind of build something internal so I think that is an innate function that women have that they like
Starting point is 00:20:52 to see that someone can be organized and together and successful like oh you put your right foot forward like oh dude he took his off time
Starting point is 00:20:59 not to go kick it with his friends but he went and go do some shit for the house that makes it look presentable to strangers I have a coffee table in my living room
Starting point is 00:21:06 and I have a bunch of magazines. And every time women come over, they go through the magazines. What do you got? Yeah, that's important. I have two hip hop magazines. The Source and XXL. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Ebony? Deep Cuts. What is it? It's like this, one of my friend's magazine and it's like this Vince Staples one. That's when it's called a zine That's what we call a zine In my generation
Starting point is 00:21:27 I don't I can't It's not something off the top I'll show you that you know And then there's one That's like a National Geographic Of like some Africa shit That's dope
Starting point is 00:21:35 Just be like Yo And then there's one about like Then I have like a script of Big Mouth Ah That That I did not write Right Right Right But that's good bait Just like Nigga I know who did this If it was you then I have like a script of Big Mouth that I did not write
Starting point is 00:21:45 right right right but that's good bait I know who did this if I put my script on there that's corny that's corny you gotta have somebody else I put my homegirl Emily Altman Emily Altman's on there
Starting point is 00:21:58 so you can kind of brag a little bit I got female writers in my room that makes you more appealing where do you get most of your dating done? Is it online? No, I think that's gross. You're human. You're human in a way.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah, we're both out and about. You're a family man, of course, but I'm out and about and I hang out with musicians and shit. Yep. And so when you're a comedian around musicians, you just kind of do well. Yeah, it clicks. And I'm very patient when it comes to women. When it comes to women.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Do you like to cipher through? How many girls are on your call log right now? I got a roster. What are we talking? How many? Starting five? I got a starting five. That's good.
Starting point is 00:22:35 No more than five, otherwise you're taking on way too much. I got a starting five and two are outside of Los Angeles. Oh, right. So two are playing overseas. I got New York and I got London. I just move it. And then I got one that I'm like, oh God, if you were just to be here,
Starting point is 00:22:51 I would kill all these people. Would you ever think about flying this girl here to be here? No. No. Because she doesn't like that. Oh, she doesn't want to be here. Yes, I would.
Starting point is 00:23:01 If I'm like, I'm going to fly you out to LA. Are you going to spend a weekend with me? She's like, no, I'm good. Nah. I'm not like that Yeah And that makes me like That's when you like them way more
Starting point is 00:23:10 Right But if a girl is like Hey can I come over right now Do you wanna hang out Do you wanna see a movie Do you wanna get food I like you That pisses me the fuck off bro
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah you're over it This is a story And I There's no way she's gonna fucking watch this I was I just got out of a relationship I told you that Like a couple months ago
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah yeah yeah And I was doing the whole rebound girl Run through a bunch of bitches thing And I was talking to this couple months ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was doing the whole rebound girl, run through a bunch of bitches thing. And I was talking to this one girl, and she was just very pretty. And I was like doing the thing with her. And she was like, here's the thing about when women don't want to be a rebound. They know they're the rebound. And they're just like, eh, I like fucking him.
Starting point is 00:23:39 He's a cool dude. I'm going to hang around. And you say, hey, I'm not really looking for anything. And then two weeks later, they you said That I'm not looking For anything And so she was just Well cause two weeks Is enough time
Starting point is 00:23:49 That they think Maybe that you might be Are you ready to open up Something again Nah I'm fucking Yeah Nah but that's what You need to say
Starting point is 00:23:55 Nah I'm fucking Nah I'm fucking And so Dear Jack Do you wanna hang Do you wanna really get deep On this relationship Nah I'm fucking
Starting point is 00:24:02 And so this is True story We were like she kept being like oh i could be friends with your ex-girlfriend if you want me to or oh i can i like i heard that you're out with zach and i can like come out with you like she kept trying to like put her position herself right into my life right i missed her like no you're good we're chilling we're chilling we're chilling yeah and we fucking one time and then she like we're going at it and it was fine and great and we're doing the fuck we were doing and she like, we're going at it. And it was fine and great. And we're doing the fuck we were doing.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And she just stops in the middle of it and holds my chest. And she goes, Jack, what do you really think of me? Oh my. In the middle of fucking? My dick is inside of her. No condom. Oh my God. That's the first thing you should have said out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:24:35 My dick is inside you. No condom. And so, no, my first thing was like, it seems like you want to talk. She did. And I go, And I try to like Pull myself out And she's like No no no
Starting point is 00:24:47 Keep going Keep going No Cause she knew It looked crazy Right So she was like Oh I can realize
Starting point is 00:24:52 That Jack thinks I'm crazy I'm gonna I mean Yeah having a full on chat While we're having sex Is very unusual And so I I'm Mr. Like
Starting point is 00:24:58 I ain't gonna slow the stroke down We gonna keep it going then Let me smash this up real quick Yeah so I keep going I go like five more Six more strokes And she goes No like but for real I'm like Oh this this up real quick. Yeah, so I go like five more, six more strokes. And she goes, no, but for real.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm like, oh, this is a thing. Oh, my God. And so I'm just annoyed and petty. So I go out to the living room, butt ass naked. And I'm like, come on, Harry, we'll talk about it. And I just turn on The Shining. Do you have The Shining available, Ruffin? I just went to Netflix.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I wanted to watch it. I turn on The Shining. And I just play The Shining. I just go sit down. And she's like, you want to talk? I'm like, no, no, we're going to watch The Shining. We're going to watch The Shining. We're going turned on The Shining And I just played The Shining I just go sit down And I just And she's like You wanna talk No no
Starting point is 00:25:26 We gonna watch The Shining We're gonna watch The Shining We're gonna watch The Shining And I made her watch That's great therapy And I made her watch The Shining And then she left In the middle of The Shining
Starting point is 00:25:35 She didn't finish it She didn't finish it No way And then she texted me She was like I think we should take a break I'm like K
Starting point is 00:25:40 K K Cause it's like Sure There's some people People Women think that you owe them the full explanation It's like no I owe my girl the full explanation
Starting point is 00:25:49 I owe my mom the full explanation I owe my homegirl the full explanation We just fucking shorty Don't make you a part of these plethora of women These are top shelf women in my life They deserve the full What do you think she really wanted to hear? What do you think she really wanted to hear? What do you think She really wanted to hear?
Starting point is 00:26:05 She wanted me to To be her man She wanted to Go to things with her Go to fashion things With her She worked in fashion She wanted me to
Starting point is 00:26:12 Go to fashion things With her And she wanted to Like get me out of my hole And do the whole thing And it's like When Women are like
Starting point is 00:26:20 Like ADD When they don't get to Finish a project With a man Like if there was a We're all projects too Right you're undone I'm undone And the fact that't get to finish a project With a man We're all projects too You're undone I'm undone
Starting point is 00:26:27 And the fact that she couldn't finish my project That means I'm just an ain't shit nigga Is that your twitter handle? Ain't shit nigga I'm gonna change it If they personally can't change you That means you're an ain't shit nigga No you just might not have the tools
Starting point is 00:26:43 There's another woman out there that could but also there's a plenty there's plenty of mature smart dope girls that know that they know they know that they can differentiate yeah that thing is not the way to do anything you can't be someone and ask to have a real serious conversation unless you're my wife or my or my or my girl let me tell you you know and then it's like oh well we'll have a long-term conversation. Women don't move like that. Whatever they are, they is. Yeah, that's true. Whatever they are, they is. Look, if my wife ever stopped fucking to have a conversation, I would stop.
Starting point is 00:27:13 If she goes, can we talk? I would say three words. You know better. You know better. I mean, come on. But she would also, but the truth of the matter is when you find a wonderful woman
Starting point is 00:27:31 that knows that your balance of relationships, then all that stuff kind of comes at the right time. That was that girl being foolish. There's no excuse for that kind of shit. The only time we should say something serious when we're having sex is if you are uncomfortable and you don't want to do this shit anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Or if perhaps something emergency has happened. Some emergency happened. If it was like, hey, I just shit myself. Like, okay, let's have a real talk. Hey, my boyfriend's coming home. Get up. Have you ever been caught with a girl while another dude came home? I've been caught with a girl with a man on the way.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Oh, shit. Yeah. Phone kept ringing. Phone kept ringing Phone kept ringing And then the garage And you knew he was coming No the garage opened What
Starting point is 00:28:08 And you just hear the room She's like The garage opening What did you jump out The fucking window No it was enough time For me to get out the door That's like Biggie's song
Starting point is 00:28:17 You know Which one Oh god what is it The tin cracker mammoth No no no No come on man I'm not that white That would be great
Starting point is 00:28:23 No no no That's like the Biggie song Where he's talking about Fucking Sit down I got a story to tell i got a story to tell isn't that what it is yeah she fucking with dude from the new york knicks and he came home he comes home and uh he he fucking get the ski mask and he puts the heat on him and then he makes him rob he robs the dude and fucks his girl that's like maybe one of my favorites so i remember listening to that story and being like god i don't don't like it. He didn't do it, but it was like wild to think
Starting point is 00:28:46 about. Have you partaken in being a side nigga? I've never had anything like that be my thing. I've never, because you know what? It's trash. But you know what? I'm not a fan. I will be on the evening news as the cat who called out the window and fell. You know what I mean? I'm that guy. Pure white booty cheeks on the fucking ledge.
Starting point is 00:29:02 My white orange ass on the ledge dangling. And the dude is waiting for me to fall just to break my neck again. I don't want to do that shit. That it's just your pure white booty cheeks on the fucking ledge. Yeah, my white orange ass on the ledge dangling. And the dude is waiting for me to fall just to break my neck again. Like, I don't want to do that shit. That's not on me. But I will tell you, the fear,
Starting point is 00:29:13 the phrase the fear, you know what this is? The fear in sex? This is something I learned really recently. The fear is something that is so powerful and driving.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's such a driving force. It's remarkably why a lot of people cheat that don't even want to cheat. It's why people do weird. It's remarkably why a lot of people cheat that don't even want to cheat. It's why people do weird shit because of the fear. So there's this thing like The fear of?
Starting point is 00:29:30 The fear in general, right? So sex and fear have these similar things that happen in our brain, right? Like the sexual drive and the fear of something negative happening or the fear in general
Starting point is 00:29:39 of something going awry is what drives us. It's the same kind of drives for emotion. Does that also go in love Yeah a little bit, but I mean like it's more like it's it's more about lust than love more than anything else right here Here's a good example. You ever you ever choke you ever choke a girl you ever had a girl choke with permission, okay, right? Can I just choke you make me a joke oh sorry left or right But I never asked, by the way.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Women just go to choke. I've had my whole hair ripped out of my fucking head. Yeah, they think you can handle it. Nothing been asked. Yeah, it's rude. It's rude. It's rude, right? Knock on the door.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Knock on my forehead and say, can I pull your hair? Give me a little kiss on the forehead before you rip my fucking hair out of my head. No, but the fear of death, right? I've talked to many young women, friends of mine, who have said that the reason that they like choking specifically is because of a little bit of a fear. It's almost like an overpowering. You're overpowering. You're a man. There's a good chance you could probably choke her out and kill her.
Starting point is 00:30:32 You won't, but she's hoping you don't. But there's the fear that you might. That's hot. It's very hot. For those women that like it. I'm not saying all fucking women. I've been there, but it's like for the experiences I've had, it's closer towards the orgasm. Sure.
Starting point is 00:30:45 You get in the rhythm, she's in the rhythm, and then you fucking put that shit right in her throat. You ever stick a finger in the booty? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do they freak out? You ever have when they freak out? No, they like it every time. Isn't that funny? Why don't we all admit that we like that shit?
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's timing. Yeah. Men have garbage timing. Yeah, men have garbage timing. And then women tell the world why women are like oh men come fast or oh men this that it's like because a lot of men
Starting point is 00:31:09 have shit timing men have shit timing it's also why a lot of women not a lot of women my thumb will go in your booty you don't even know
Starting point is 00:31:15 it's been there until it's in there yep until we're done and then I gotta pop it out before you step away wait that's why that did that men do have shit timing
Starting point is 00:31:24 that's why like you heard I remember hearing how often they are men are well we're just like, wait, that's why that did that? Men do have shit timing. That's why, like you heard, I remember hearing how often they are. Men are very. Well, we're also like, men are so bad at foreplay because men just want to fuck so bad. So like a lot of men that don't want to go down on women or they go down for like 40 seconds. It's because men are such bags of horny shit that they don't think maybe I should focus on this before I get. Maybe I should let her eat before I fucking gorge because I eat way more food than she does. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Maybe I should just fucking share a little bit. But I think as men get older, that goes away. It's just when you're young, you don't get it. You don't fucking get it. But this is my, as a young nigga who still feels exactly what you're saying, nut, nut, nut. Nut.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Be a real nigga stay awake be like you know that was just me figuring it out that's why I always say stage one I always say I had to figure out
Starting point is 00:32:13 the pussy right quick give me like five more minutes if you nut too fast you gotta make a little excuse you gotta do a thing but a lot of men just like I gotcha and then get out
Starting point is 00:32:21 no no no no I always go two to one. Yeah. They come twice. I come once. I'm out. That's sweet.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Two to one. How old are you? 25. At 25. I grew up with all women though. At 25, how many times can you fuck in one night? Now? You like a girl, right?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Let's say you like a girl. She comes over. You're hanging out. Is she good at it? She's fantastic. Oh, four. If she's not good? Two.
Starting point is 00:32:42 But you always do two? Yeah. Yeah. I don't like. There comes a breaking point. Two. But you always do two. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like. There comes a breaking point. It's a transaction, my nigga. Yeah, but there comes a number in your life when oftentimes two is a lot. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Two becomes a lot. And hopefully at that time I have a wife. That's right. But even still, you love it. Yeah. But it's even like, I remember feeling, I remember being like 24, 25. And I remember thinking, I could fuck for 12 hours straight. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I wouldn't even need water. But now I'm getting older, I need water. Like, I need fluids. I can feel myself cramping. My knees hurt now. This is new. Do you ever cramp when you fuck? I drink a lot of water.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I do. I cramp. I've had two calf cramps fucking. It's the most embarrassing shit. You're like, I'm sealing out, and my dick goes soft immediately because my calves just tighten up. And I know they're cramping because I didn't drink enough water. Haven't had enough sleep. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:33:31 You get a ride to dick until you see back to normal. I know. I got to get. I know. You got to flip them. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:36 You know the trick. We've been trying a bunch of new shit, though. We've been trying a lot of new positions. I was messing. One of the rosters, my power forward, is a 266, 280 pounds from Detroit, Michigan. Your power forward. Yeah, she's 34, and her knees pop. And there was this one funny-ass night where I was sitting on the bed, and she was like,
Starting point is 00:33:59 oh, I'm trying to blow you. I'm like, oh, tight. And she gets down on her knees, and both her knees pop as she's pulling my pants down. And she stops. And she goes, should I stand back up? I'm like, no, I didn't hear it. But I clearly did because I'm making mention of it. I'm making mention of it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. I didn't know what happened. But watching her be embarrassed about it is like, when men get cramps, it's like, women get, our bodies is breaking down the same way your body's breaking down. Don't be embarrassed. We're just doing more shit. If a girl farts while you're fucking, are you good? I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah, see, I love that about you. I've had a bitch take a full shit. In the middle of fucking? Yeah. She's like, hold on, hold on, hold on. You better make me shit. And then went to the bathroom and shit and came back? Went to the bathroom and shit, came back.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Maybe that's because the dick was so good you made her shit. I know what it was. Yeah, you know exactly what it was. But to rewind back to what we were talking about earlier, it's like I don't know how men or women can be a part of infidelity and just go to bed. And go back to sleep. I don't have that heart.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Right. I truly don't have that. Did you almost get caught by the guy? No, I made it out. And I never talked to her again. I was very mad at her I didn't like Do you imagine she talked to him
Starting point is 00:35:07 About me Yeah No I'm sure she just brings it A new nigga And does it again I'm pretty sure They're married
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's a rotating door Yeah I'm pretty sure They're married She was very slick and charming She was smooth about it Smooth as a motherfucker bro Let me ask you Producer's wife
Starting point is 00:35:20 I want to know more About your youth When was the first time You got liquored up That's something I talk To everybody about When was the first time you got liquored up? That's something I talk to everybody about. When was the first time you got drunk? My grandpa at 14. Your grandpa, and you were 14 years old.
Starting point is 00:35:34 My grandpa and my great uncle took me to Red Lobster, and they brought their own bottle and their jacket. It was like this whiskey. No, it was cognac. I forgot what the name of the cognac is. It doesn't matter, it was like this whiskey, no, it was cognac. I forgot what the name of the cognac is. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It was like some old black man, sweet old black man cognac and they kept pouring it. That's a new brand, by the way, old black man cognac.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Old black man cognac. And it's just, all old black man cognac is just ashy skin cells falling into a cup. And then the cigar smoke just fucking bloated. There they go. There they go. there they go every day they go yeah
Starting point is 00:36:07 i'm about to call mashallah ali right now we want to get this shit popping boy that's like my buddy uh ep his dad his dad is uh he's from the deep south and his dad owned a a little restaurant and it was customary for him to always serve pie like after your meal yeah yeah and that was his his sweet potato is probably the most common his outgoing phrase was always you want your pie it was customary for him to always serve pie, like after your meal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Sweet potato, whatever. Yeah, sweet potato is probably the most common. His outgoing phrase was always, you want your pie? That was always the go-to.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You want your pie? But it came so, it would over time come, and now it's, you want pie? You know what I mean? Only locals know, pie. It is a pie. That's all it is. I would love to talk About the South of course
Starting point is 00:36:45 But There's I was on the road recently With my homie Zach Fox And we were just like Every It was like one of those Beautiful times where
Starting point is 00:36:52 Big Mouth was popping And like people had It is popping It's still going Yeah of course But like people came out To see me This is my first time
Starting point is 00:36:59 In my career Where that actually Kind of happened for me Where people came out Just because they knew Who you were Instead of just being like Let's go see a comedic show
Starting point is 00:37:04 Tonight Yeah and that was like a thing I was like oh fuck This is weird That's great It's weird You know when it first where that actually kind of happened for me. Where people came out just because they knew who you were. Instead of just being like, let's go see a comedic show tonight. Yeah, and that was like a thing. I was like, oh, fuck, this is weird. That's great. It's weird. When it first happens, you're just like, this is fucking, y'all got out your house? Yeah, they paid.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And put a jacket on? Paid to see you. And got your girl. That's crazy. Wow, got a babysitter? Yeah, me and Zach did the whole tour of it. It was sold out. And there was little rooms like Union Hall and shit.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Sure. Yeah. And there was this one girl at, there was one dude at Union Hall and shit Sure Yeah And there was this one girl There was one dude at Union Hall And he was very very nice And he was just like I remember you at Anderwein's house party
Starting point is 00:37:32 Dope And I remember you On the Comedy School 30 And at midnight And I've been following your career This whole time I'm very happy to finally See you and meet you
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm like this is And I'm Mr. like Dude this is fucking great Give me a hug I love that you're Fucking talking to me right now And then like his friends were there And there was a girl That was kind of giving me the eye i was like
Starting point is 00:37:46 oh okay whatever that's a girl give me the eye and he's like come on come to my party after this and zach told me like oh i already know that party we're gonna go afterwards we go to the party uh he's not there yet the girl that he was that was giving me the eye was there and she was like you know we kind of start dancing we start talking we start drinking she was like oh come in the bathroom and i'll do coke So she was like Just come to the bathroom with me I was like Oh I'm gonna watch you do coke And hopefully
Starting point is 00:38:07 Like we make out Yeah maybe I'll get my dick touched She full blown Sucked the nigga dick In the bathroom Coke dick Coke dick It was like
Starting point is 00:38:14 Right away Yeah And there's a piece of me I'm like I'm getting my dick Sucked in the bathroom I need to get my life together That sounds great
Starting point is 00:38:21 Where else is it supposed to happen Right right And you know it's New York They don't care if your dick Gets sucked in the bathroom Nah man New York is for coke And dick sucking
Starting point is 00:38:26 And I'm just like This is tight I'm on tour But then I leave And go back downstairs And bro shows up And he's like Oh my god
Starting point is 00:38:33 You really came to the party Dude you gotta meet my girlfriend Shorty came out after me At the party It was her I met your girlfriend bro My dick was in her throat I met her
Starting point is 00:38:42 So Zach's standing behind them And I'm standing Looking at him And looking at her And then they start making out and then she turns and after they make out she turns and looks at me and goes oh god and I'm just like I don't like this I don't like this at all and like I start thinking back to future and young thug and Migos and all these rappers I think talk about him like, you're bad people. You're bad guys. It would be great if right after she did that and he goes, I like that to you.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And then you walk up to him, you shake his hand, you go, it was great meeting you, man. How'd that dick taste? I think that's so fucking weird. Maybe that's her thing. Maybe that's his thing. You don't know. He could have been like, hey, I want you to go suck. That motherfucker was like 22, 23. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:39:23 He doesn't know. He doesn't know. Yeah, well, maybe he does. Maybe he does and you never fucking know. You guys had fun on tour though? Are you going back on tour in 2019? I'm working on a bunch of shows and so I just want to make a thing now. You guys want to make a thing?
Starting point is 00:39:36 I just want to make a thing. What do you do this Christmas? Do you go back up north or what do you do? No, I went for Thanksgiving and now I'm working on a cartoon and I'm working on a show and I'm just like trying to make sure all the work is done because you know
Starting point is 00:39:47 everybody shuts down in this city. But you're not going to shut down? I'm just going to make sure everything's done. That's dope, man. I just want to go and I'm making like a lot of premises
Starting point is 00:39:55 and I just want to like because you know how at the beginning of the year everyone's New Year's resolution is to be a comic and everyone's New Year's resolution is to go see comedy. So I love to be prepared
Starting point is 00:40:04 for January, February. There should be a lot of comics resolution to quit. You know what I mean? More people should be quitting. More people should be quitting a lot of things that they're trying to do. A lot of people are quitting. Great, get out.
Starting point is 00:40:13 It makes me so... Get the fuck out. You know what I was talking about the other day and I think you fucking agree with this? I think that comedy in the entertainment business values niceness so much that it allows people who are annoying and dumb to run over you. Oh, big time.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? And now I'm not even, in the regular world, I'm not considered mean. In the entertainment industry, I'm considered mean. Well, how is that? Is that because you think that or because someone said that to you? Because people say that to me.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Because if you walk up to me And you say some dumb shit Like say you and me In a conversation This is a comedy story We can use a comedy story As an example We'll be having a full Face to face
Starting point is 00:40:51 Looking eye to eye conversation And motherfuckers will come And people will just come And grab you by your arm And turn you into A whole nother conversation Like that ain't rude as fuck Right
Starting point is 00:41:00 And so I'm Mr. Nigga what the fuck Are you doing you corny And I'll make fun of you In public in front of everybody. Yeah, because what they did was rude. But then they'll run with that and it'll go here, here, here, here, here. And you're the bad guy because they did some rude shit.
Starting point is 00:41:11 But because they know that reputation matters so much in this industry, they can just be rude. Yeah. It's so crazy. That is funny. People are allowed to be rude when they meet someone that they're a fan of because if they don't get in return what they want, then you're the bad guy. How come you didn't stop and say hi to me, man? I've got to go. Oh, okay, too big? Well, no, man. I'm also a human. I have a full-on life. Life without you, bro. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:39 It's insane. actually this happened to me tonight and you know it's just he didn't people don't mean this but sometimes when people say hi to me or they recognize me they'll say something and you and usually it's cool most of the time people are so cool most of my fans that say what's up are cool but i think some people get uncomfortable when it's time to leave like it's time to leave like you know you they want that moment to last longer yeah it's a little weird and sometimes people people don't know how to exit the best way to exit is just to go all right man take it easy or peace or later or see ya or whatever the fuck you say to other humans.
Starting point is 00:42:08 But people do this sometimes. They'll go, all right, man, well, good luck. And you're like, no, I don't need luck, dude. This is it. You know how you recognize me?
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's because I didn't fucking need the luck. What the fuck? Good luck is such a weird, it's such a backhanded compliment. I know they never mean it that way, but it feels so weird when someone says good luck. It's almost like saying, well, I know you're struggling. It's like, no, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm fine. And you want to be a dick. Yeah. And be like, bro, but don't wish me luck. That's a weird, it's such a cheap, weird thing to wish. You wish someone luck when they're about to fight. Like, hey, if you're going off to war, I'd be like, good luck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Don't die. They don't know yet. Yeah. Don't wish me luck when you already know that I've done the thing that you like and i'll hopefully continue to do the thing but it's like luck is a weird thing to say good what you're trying to say i also don't believe in luck i don't believe in luck but like to say good luck what they're doing is like you crawled into the trenches into the trenches in in syria right you're just like hey man good luck it's like bro oh! There's a drone over us.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Can you shut up? Don't good luck me, bro. I think the best way to say what's up to somebody always is, hey, I like your shit. Here's what I kind of like about you. Can I get a picture maybe or whatever? That's straight. And then be like, all right, man, thanks for the time.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And most people are cool like that. I think because of how, like, dude, what I've seen in the past couple of years, which is crazy, is people are so connected to you, they can get access to you right now. They have you right now. And the engagement with fans has grown and grown and grown and grown. It used to be like, nah, I don't really have time for any of that stuff. Now, if you don't have time to say what's up to fans, they're gone.
Starting point is 00:43:39 They'll leave. They want to know that they can be like, hey, man, I love this about you. I love this thing you don't have to say yes or hi to everything and everybody but well i think it's i think it's strange now that people are so connected they can get with social media we've literally become people's imaginary friends yeah we've literally become like that's why sometimes they think it's more than that sometimes that you're like no i i i get that i know him i know i'm friends with jack yeah and it's like because that's why I don't tweet like that. Because it's like, especially when you're not a, not to be this guy, but like when you're
Starting point is 00:44:10 not like a white dude and there's not like a bunch of things, there's not a bunch of y'all. There's not that many weird, cool, like in my pocket type of black dudes that are on the. Who is the other young black dude that's in a category with you? If it's a casting session. Bring out the cool young black dude that's in a category with you? If it's a casting session. Bring out the cool young black dudes. I mean, there's very many actors that are way better and more cool.
Starting point is 00:44:30 No, but I'm saying, who do you go in with? Who would you be in the room with? That you would know? That the people would know? Sure. Who's always with me? It'll always be internet dudes. Internet dudes.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Internet dudes are always there. Who's internet dudes? Like Batch King Batch? It'll always be internet dudes Internet dudes Internet dudes are always there Who's internet dudes? Like Like Jahan Like Batch King Batch The Batches The John
Starting point is 00:44:49 Jahan Jones I'm drawing a blank I'm sorry I feel very rude Oh come on I'm sorry What's your The black community is going to be so mad about this shit
Starting point is 00:44:58 Very mad What's your What is your What's your Opinion of Lil Duval He's he's great he's great i love him is that funny because i i like i was curious to know because it's like he he reaches so many fucking groups of people right like he's not just he's he's the epitome of light he's
Starting point is 00:45:20 everything he's everything people think he's funny they think he's entertaining they think he's he think he's smart they think he's mean they think like i i've never seen somebody's you always leave with an with an emotion yes and an emotion right and that's what blown away that's what this generation is right well that's he kind of encompasses that but ironically enough he's much older than most of the people he appeals to like 44 45 isn't that wild but he looks so young i think i think song, I'm Living My Best Life, is maybe one of my favorites. Ain't going back
Starting point is 00:45:47 and forth with you niggas. I needed you to say that. Thank you. I'm not gonna say it. I got you. I got you. I know what you're accusing me of.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smile, bitch. I think it's such a funny fucking great song because it's like everybody feels that way. Regardless of your race. No.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I feel the exact same way. I'm not going back and forth with you motherfuckers. That's the exact same way that we all feel. It forth With you motherfuckers Like that's the exact same way That we all feel It was a beautiful song Oh it makes perfect sense And this is why
Starting point is 00:46:08 Like I never I never like I never Care about What's popping now What's popping later Right Lil Duval had
Starting point is 00:46:16 One of the best Comic view sets of all time Right And he's a hilarious comedian And then disappeared Not disappeared But like disappeared Quote unquote
Starting point is 00:46:24 Right And then came back In resurgence Right This is like All you gotta do Is make sure you happy You traveling
Starting point is 00:46:29 You staying smart You doing this Motherfucking thing And you making good art That's why I was like Right When I see all the internet shit When I see all the internet dudes
Starting point is 00:46:36 In the lobby And they're like Making money now I'm like Cool cool cool cool cool But I wanna make Always Sunny Right
Starting point is 00:46:41 That's what I wanna do Do you get Do you get hated on On the internet Do you get thrown shade on the internet? It's not like that for you. No one shits on you online. No.
Starting point is 00:46:49 That's great. Everyone's pretty like, either they don't know or they're like, that nigga's doing his own thing. Right. You don't get bothered. No.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Is there somebody that bothers the shit out of you in your community that you're like, I'm so tired of this? Yes. Go ahead. If you can't say it, you can't say it. you can't say it.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I understand. I can't say it. I can't say it. But there's a comedian. We'll talk about it offline. There literally is. Offline. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:47:10 There's a lot of comedians who just say memes as jokes. And it's like, don't treat. Audiences are the sheep. And we're the shepherds. Whatever you tease the sheep, other shepherds got to deal with. Right. So if you up there being a hack and you just doing memes and you just up there ruining the black community and making us feel stupider and just because you want to get the bag right quick you making brilliant black comedians jobs so much harder because they want to come because
Starting point is 00:47:40 now the crowd's coming in like i want to hear the thing i already know right and it's like bro don't ruin art just because you garbage go do another thing who do you think is the best leader in black comedy right now che yeah michael che michael che yeah michael che sam jay do you think che do when you say that are you making reference more to his online stand-up or his and his and his late night because to me all three are important to me his Instagram is the best thing he does see I think I think
Starting point is 00:48:07 right because it's the most free but I think what he's able to do on SNL to me is probably some of my favorite shit
Starting point is 00:48:16 I've ever seen because all white women Meg's it's great beautiful but also he says he says funny
Starting point is 00:48:22 questionable shit that doesn't always land with the crowd because it's sharp and sometimes it's mean. But it's out there though. But I love that. It's supposed to be out there. It's the same way that Norm MacDonald was when he was on the show. And honestly, man, I'm such a Norm fan. Norm did the same shit.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Norm said jokes that he knew were funny and so did everybody else. Bro went crazy on OJ. But sometimes. There's a whole reel of norms oj shit that's why he got fired because he wouldn't stop talking about fucking oj but i mean like he he made sure that it was like if it's funny it's funny it doesn't matter yeah and and if i'm gonna say something about it i'm gonna say something yeah che does the exact same thing and i think that's like it's gonna all circle around i'm not really fearful of of that type like uh i was
Starting point is 00:49:02 talking to this nigga in in new york was like, oh, how do you deal with everyone kind of low-key hating you? Do they? Yeah. Really? Not everyone, but like the Megs.
Starting point is 00:49:14 A lot of the Megs don't like it. And the blogs and the fucking, the articles. Yeah. It really keeps this thing all alive. But that's what happens when you're on NBC.
Starting point is 00:49:22 That's what happens when you're on a network show. You think? Well, yeah, man. they love Kate McKinnon they love Addie Bryant they love all these other white women yeah but they don't but okay but but but like Michael Che pushes the envelope on purpose these other people don't push the envelope like that I mean I'm not take discrediting their work I'm just saying like Che says things that he knows is
Starting point is 00:49:44 gonna get a rise yeah but like the things that he knows is going to get a rise. Yeah, but the thing that he says, my frustration is coming from the thing that Che questions, the thing that Che is attacking is patriarchy, and that's what you guys kind of champion. Well, that's what they are about too. Yeah, so it's like just because he's attacking your patriarchy doesn't mean he's not attacking patriarchy in general. It's because they're white though. Yeah, but it's like if someone attacks black male patriarchy, I mean he's not attacking patriarchy in general right it's cause they're white though yeah but it's like if someone attacks
Starting point is 00:50:07 black male patriarchy I'ma still laugh there's a lot of black female comedians and a lot of women there's a lot of gay comics that'll go up there like black men do this
Starting point is 00:50:15 and that's trash and I'll laugh at the shit right cause I know we be doing trash shit but white women have this holier than thou thing that they ain't never done
Starting point is 00:50:22 no trash shit it's crazy right of course yeah it's crazy everyone's done trash shit yeah literally everybody i think white women are genuinely the only group of people on earth gay people take their l's trans people take their l's white men take their l's they you know tiki torch it out after a while but they take their l's everybody takes the l but white women are like, no, we're perfect. And it's crazy. They're literally like, we ain't done nothing.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I think that's the solution for all this bullshit to be real is that everyone needs to admit that we're flawed as fuck. I mean, there's an article out that's out right now. I'm going to send to you after this. That's about some of the biggest leaders of the women's movement, of the women's march that are now getting. Me dude. Well, they're getting looked into for some bullshit for some anti like some fucking racist ass what's the anti-semitic used to be with uh not what's uh anthony bourdain oh dude i know come on man that whole thing crazy that whole thing i broke up in a hotel with joe rogan in chicago and he texted me he said
Starting point is 00:51:18 wait wait wait wait huh say that sentence again huh say that sentence again separate rooms separate rooms dog say that sentence again come on man he's too rich to share rooms I wanted to snuggle bro but no
Starting point is 00:51:29 not at all you're shining his bald head and you just woke up you're like Joe look at this he was making me shave his toes and he was no
Starting point is 00:51:36 no but he but he texted me hit me in the room and was like you won't believe this Bourdain killed himself and then we had a forever conversation
Starting point is 00:51:42 about that whole thing about and I don't want to get into fucking that and feed into Hirsch bullshit but man, what a fucking scam. What a bad person. What a scam. What a scam.
Starting point is 00:51:49 What a beautiful soul that she was attached to, but what a bad person. That she ruined? A dude that she ruined? I mean, that was him. You know what that's like? That's like he was like a perfect cut of meat. You know what I mean? He was the perfect cut of meat.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And then she left us with like a sizzler. You know what I mean? Yes. It's like that's what you did to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a perfect cut of meat and know what i mean he was the perfect cut of meat and then she left us with like a sizzler you know what i mean yes it's like that's what you did to us yeah you had a perfect cut of meat and you gave us some bullshit i'm very gave me a skirt steak i'm very desensitized from death from like personal experience but like the only feel i had a lot of people die yeah seattle's more suicide than like killing killed but like i have a lot of friends who like killed themselves same in your personal family have you had a lot of people die i've had a lot of people more get killed in my family and more friends been killed by killed themselves. Same. In your personal family, have you had a lot of people die? I've had a lot of people get killed in my family and more with friends that killed themselves.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Damn. And so like, I'm very desensitized. I think it's funny. I think death's very funny. Can be. And people don't really fuck with that as much.
Starting point is 00:52:34 But the two deaths this year that like kind of like, I was like, bro, if they can't do it, I can't. Let me guess. Anthony Bourdain and Mac Miller.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Oh, I was gonna say Mac Miller, yeah. Both of them motherfuckers. I met him. Rocked me. I knowourdain and Mac Miller. Oh, I was going to say Mac Miller, yeah. Both of them motherfuckers. I met him. Rocked me. I know. I liked him a lot. Rocked. He came to the comedy store one night.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Did he? He was there with Chance the Rapper's little brother. I was doing the 12 o'clock spot. And it was one of those beautiful nights where it went like, you, then him, then Eleanor, then me, and we're all on fire. And it was packed as fuck until like fucking 2 a.m. in the morning. It was one of those beautiful comedy star nights that I will tell my children about. Hopefully he'll remember that shit forever.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Hopefully he knows that. He was cracking the fuck up the entire night. Someone tapped me, they're like, yo, Mac Miller here. I'm like, I'm about to sauce. I'm like, I'm about to fucking sauce. I know friends that know of him. It's like weird circles. He came up to me and we drank all night.
Starting point is 00:53:28 This is one of the things he always kept talking about he kept talking about groucho marks uh-huh he kept talking about uh mel black but uh saying it's like mel brooks no mel the dude who made looney tunes oh oh oh um uh black black or black black i don't know i'm drawing a blank on it uh i'm trying to blank. Joan Rivers. Yeah. Penny. Jesus Christ. Penny. And we just talked about old comedy the entire night. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:53 He knows all of it. Yeah, no. Well, I can tell you. Baby's Kids. We talked about all that shit. He was a big comedy fan. I met him. We did Punk'd and he was one of the hosts that came along and glommed onto us a lot in a good way.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Positive. He loved our energy. Me and this other kid, Nick. And, man, he was so much fun to fuck with and to fuck around with because he was down. He just was really into it. A lot of the best hosts that we had back when I did Punk'd, many a moon ago. Many a moon. It was, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:16 But the people that liked us the most, that we liked the most, they were fans of comedy. They loved comedy, you know? It's a beautiful art. And I was nothing back then. I was bullshit. He was great, man. I got nothing but good things to say about that kid except for the fact that it's a fucking... It just makes me annoyed and sick that people die from drugs
Starting point is 00:54:32 when they're young because it's bullshit. But he didn't... It was fentanyl. Yeah, that shit's fucked. It should be in nobody's hands. It's a garbage cut of cocaine. It should be in nobody's hands. That shit shouldn't be out of the world. It's crazy that it's in it.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I don't know what it does, necessarily. I'm not that well-versed with... What fentanyl is? Yeah. Well, first of all, it's pharmaceutically made, so it's regimented. It's legally made. They know what they're doing. Of course they do, man.
Starting point is 00:54:58 What do you mean? They gave the black community HIV. We'll be right back after this, Chris. I did a joke on Chocolate sundae oh and uh and chocolate sundae for those that don't know is the name of a show at a club here in Hollywood and it's chocolate sundaes because it's sunday night and chocolate because black people everybody's black but it's a very very fun show it's one it's a phenomenal show I would say one of the best shows Ron that's where I met Ron G one of the best shows In the fucking city
Starting point is 00:55:25 And one of the jokes I told I think that it's very funny That the karma has happened That we've gone From the crack epidemic To the opioid epidemic And how like The
Starting point is 00:55:34 How the opioid epidemic All kind of Coralined with the Hip hop And how hip hop Went from a thing where Hip hop came out Of the crack epidemic
Starting point is 00:55:41 And now led to The biggest artist in the world Telling white kids to do opioids Yeah that's wild And it's like Take pills That's karma bitch We got you back
Starting point is 00:55:50 That's payback Yeah that's what I was As I was saying Everything circles Everything fucking circles around And so that's why It was It sucked that my joke
Starting point is 00:55:58 Worked against One of my favorite white musicians That did suck But the joke is good Because the joke is good Because it's true Here's what's so funny. Half a million views, baby.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Go check it out. Pump it. The hip hop that was birthed in the 70s and the 80s and the 90s, the growth of hip hop then was kind of on the shoulders of marijuana and liquor, right? That was kind of the thing always of smoking weed and having some drinks. And that's when weed was a drug. But that's also when the music kind of tonally
Starting point is 00:56:28 was similar to party shit. It was that kind of vibe. I say a hip, a hop, a hippie, a hippie, to the hip, hip, hop, but you don't stop. But it's so funny to think about that now that pills get into play
Starting point is 00:56:39 and what happens is fucking mumble rap becomes a real thing, right? Garb, and I'm not, you clearly understand I'm separating. Huge mumble rap fan, yes. But you know I'm separating people like mac miller from that category they're not even close but i'm saying that's funny i wonder what the next synthetic drug is going to be that's
Starting point is 00:56:53 going to introduce its way into music and influence how music is then made right because it depends music does follow that cocaine in the 70s influenced so much rock and roll cult culture and art and music and comedy itself all follows policy oh sure so whatever this whatever the the people pulling strings to the top wherever they want to go with this country if they want to keep giving pharmaceutical country like shit or climate control whatever the fuck they want to do we're gonna talk about it and that's what the art gonna be yeah i don't think we have as much control as we try to pretend that we do we don't no we have to talk about what anyone like as much people like like as much as uh um try to pretend that we do. We don't. No, we have to talk about what that is. Anyone, like as much as people like,
Starting point is 00:57:25 like as much as Kendrick Lamar or Drake thinks that they have party, no, you're just commenting on a thing that a white old fuck writes on a paper.
Starting point is 00:57:35 That's a great album name. White old fuck. White old fuck. White old fuck paperwork. It is true though, yes. It's a comment, but I'm saying we have a duty to do it a lot of people in america can turn a blind eye to like what's going on and say fuck this
Starting point is 00:57:50 shit or this is boring or this is annoying or i don't want to think about it we really can't get away from it dude even if as a comic you don't want to talk about that shit you still can't get away from hearing it as a comedian which i think is a good thing as a comic you're forced to talk about shit that's going on in the world because you're in it if you didn't you you wouldn't have a long you wouldn't have a long-lasting career in comedy any good comic one of the greatest quotes i ever heard about lauren michaels for saturday night live he says you want to know what's going on in a war in the world watch snl and listen as people can talk shit about snl as much as they want i love that fucking show i've always been a fan of that show that's a fact i've always been a fan and i think what that says says volumes
Starting point is 00:58:23 because that show does its its best Yes, it's opinionated. It's slanted but it doesn't matter. They are showing you week to week what in the world is kind of going on and they give you an angle.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't even think It may not be the angle that you fucking love but it's an angle. That's what I like. I don't even think the show is as left leaning as it tries to make
Starting point is 00:58:39 that stuff out to be. Well, well, well. Of course not but people who are on the right would want you to believe that and so that gets inflated right so then because snl gets attacked by people like trump the president tweets about that that's hilarious to me uh well snl is in a weird position where the left and the right attacks them a total of course because the left is like why is there no transgender nigga babies with fucking like and why aren't there by the way good question Chris
Starting point is 00:59:05 and why aren't there Sam huh huh but I think but I think the truth of the matter is like yes they're both
Starting point is 00:59:11 gonna get mad at both sides but the right media tends to do this thing where they go because Trump said whenever Trump says something
Starting point is 00:59:17 about a thing right it's the world's news right it becomes the world it becomes it becomes bigger than itself
Starting point is 00:59:22 and people are like why are you talking about him because he's the fucking president yeah man well i'm bored of hearing about it right yeah because you've never had a president who talked this much ever ever ever i don't even think we could have somebody that jimmy carter flies commercial today i know it's that's how that's how humble that said next to him in 24 f last week bro and he was hugging my shoulder space come on Jimmy he was holding the fucking arm yeah
Starting point is 00:59:45 you know what side is yours bitch put your fucking peanut farm yo I'm so happy that you came through tell me this
Starting point is 00:59:51 tell the people at home where they can see you they find you and what you want them to know you can see me at the comedy store I'm traveling a little bit less this year
Starting point is 00:59:59 but you know watch Big Mouth and all that good noise and follow me on Instagram I'll probably be posting a couple shows Twitter Instagram at Jack Knight it's Jack Knight But like you know Watch Big Mouth And all that good noise And follow me on Instagram I'll probably be posting A couple shows Twitter Instagram
Starting point is 01:00:06 Twitter At Jack Knight It's Jack Knight And then Instagram is Jackknight123 There's a couple clips on there Why did you do that Jackknight123
Starting point is 01:00:13 Because there was already Other Jackknights Because I'm a child I think my My email is the same thing Is it really Yeah I don't know I'm not gonna change it either
Starting point is 01:00:21 Because Neil Brennan Made fun of me for it I'm like Fuck you Fuck you I'm gonna keep it Yeah keep it Are you doing any shows fun of me for it. I'm like, fuck you, Neil Brennan. I'm going to keep going. Are you doing any shows coming up that you want to plug or promote or no? Are you good? New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Uh-oh. Yeah, bro. New Year's Eve, I'm going to Chicago and No Name. My city. Yeah, No Name, the musician, and a couple of other musicians, Tierra Whack and Shmino and Saba and all the best musicians I think that are out right now are doing a New Year's Eve show and me, Teddy Ray,
Starting point is 01:00:51 Sam Jay, Langston Kerman, Punky Johnson. The best! A lot of my favorite comedians in this generation are all going to be opening for this musical show and when I was a kid I would always see Mos Def hanging out with Chappelle and I think that's, you know, I think I'm not either close to either of those two would always see Most Deaf hanging out With Chappelle And I think that's You know
Starting point is 01:01:05 I think I'm Not either close to either Of those two human beings But I'm hanging out With my Most Deaf right now That's dope Yeah Where is it?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Tell them where it is Tell them where they can get Tickets and all that shit If it's already not sold out The 30th isn't sold out The 31st isn't sold out But I think it's at What's that major
Starting point is 01:01:21 What's that regular theater In Chicago? The Chicago Theater? It's not just Chicago Oh the Vic Oh the Vic Yeah we're doing the Vic That's that regular theater in Chicago? The Chicago Theater? It's not just Chicago. Oh, the Vic. Oh, the Vic. Yeah, we're doing the Vic. That's where I shot my special, man.
Starting point is 01:01:29 The Vic. Great special, by the way. Showtime. Vic. We're at the Vic. At the Vic. Go check them out at the Vic on the 30th and the 31st. You know, at Chito Santino.
Starting point is 01:01:37 The Slugger Santino will be in Bakersfield on the 19th. I've never done that room, never been up there. So come out and have some fun. Then the next weekend, 24, 25, 26 26 I'll be in DC or Arlington whatever same shit over at the draft house doing my fucking thing so come out I'm gonna invite Trump let's see if he comes oh shit and then a dead crow February dead crow in February yeah yeah Jack Knight Andrew Santino thank you so much for coming. Goodbye. Whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

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