Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Jake Johnson is still an ALPHA SILVERBACK 🤣 | Whiskey Ginger

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger, a Wave Series. Presented by FanDuel. Jake Johnson joins Andrew Santino on Whiskey Ginger for a hilarious and honest conversation about acting, comedy, career highs and lows, life in Hollywood, and the stories that shaped him. The two dig into Jake’s journey, creative process, behind-the-scenes moments, and plenty of wild tangents along the way. 🥃 NEW EPISODES EVERY FRIDAY 🎙️ Follow Jake Johnson: Instagram: @mrjakejohnson Projects: New Girl, Spider-Verse, Minx, Self Reliance 📲 Follow Whiskey Ginger & Andrew Santino: YouTube: youtube.com/andrewsantinowhiskeyginger Instagram: @whiskeygingerpodcast Podcast: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & all streaming services 🕐 Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro 04:42 – Crocko at Dodgers Stadium 08:40 – Bobby Lee Gets Wild 16:17 – Fanduel Segment 19:40 – I give em $100 24:38 – Anna Kendrick Listens To The Show 33:05 – Talking About Obsession 43:50 – We're Here To Help 50:13 – Acting In The Machine #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #JakeJohnson ====================================================== This episode is sponsored by: FANDUEL Bet on a match and get Bonus Bets for every goal scored in that match http://fanduel.com RULA If you’re ready to stop talking yourself out of finding care and making progress, then head to http://rula.com HELIX Go to helixsleep.com/Whiskey for 20% off Sitewide, 25% off Luxe Mattresses, and 30% off Elite Mattresses Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that from my guest, but I mean once again today, it is the return of Jake Johnson. Hey, my man. Great to see you. What's going on with the bears this year? I feel I've fallen off on the Cubs. Really? You're this guy? It's this early.

No, I've fallen off for the last few years. I'm saying this as an overall statement. Oh, that really hurts my feelings. I mean, I still love them. I'm just not watching. I followed off with all sports. I didn't watch the NBA final. I'm not paying attention.

Really? Don't care. I still love the bears. Bears is the only one. Bears, I read about them. I think about them. But the Cubs know, huh? I want to.

I still love the uniform. My father was buried in that on that stadium. I know. But there's something now with Markino. I can't get it easily. Well, I have to pay for the MLB. So I've seasoned tickets. I know if you have season tickets, they give you the,

I get the marquee app on my. Oh, interesting. And then I VPN it so I can stream always. See, the VPN, you've lost me. I don't even know what that means. Besides, it's a sponsor on podcast sometimes. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly right.

I use my VPN and my bag of blue chew, and then I go. Then when I go to Zock talk, I'm not feeling good. Because it covers the same insurance. But if you want to really save money, you got to go to Rocket Money, brother. Tell you on a good night to sleep, you go to Casper. Because those mattresses, dude.

They're incredible. And when my back is sore, I really will stretch out on the hydro row, which is just incredible water technology for Rowling. It is the whole thing that. No, I'm still on the Cubs, but it's funny. One of my childhood best friends came into town, and I took them to a Dodger game, him and his girlfriend.

And I was like, they had never been to Dodger Stadium, never seen the Dodgers. And I was like, you're going to love this. And they both were like, mind-blown. Positive or negative? Positive because also, Dowd Stadium is so much larger than Wrigley.

They're used to Wrigley. And they were like, this is so fucking big. It goes away. And I was like, yeah. And it's gorgeous. It's beautiful. And then you know, you get in at sunset. It was a 7-10 game.

And then they got, you know, show-hay. They got Freddie Freeman. So many stars. Dude, they got, Sho-Hae hit a single. Sho-ha hit a solo. Freddie Freeman hit a solo Apo first at bat. And Max Monty hit a solo. And it was like.

They were like, is this every game? And I'm like, almost. It's an all-star team. So it's really hard for people that like... I agree. It's hard. I took my dad to Dodder State and we went to a playoff game before he passed. I don't think I told you this one, but we, he went and he's used to late 60s.

He dropped acid every day. It was in the bleachers. He was part of the real bleacher bums. Like the originals. Originals. Yeah, not this new age. It got, they made a play about it. You probably, they wrote a play in like the 80s with the second city group.

And it was like the Joe Monty. Montana types. Yeah. And they like commercialized it. Right. But the real ones were like not junkies because it wasn't heroin. But not guys who party like you and me. Right.

It was different. You were like, oh, everyday acid? Not like when there's a concert? Just Wednesday acid? Yeah, we're like, my day back. Well, I did it every day alone. That's like, that's negative. You tell the story like it's positive, but that's negative.

That's a negative thing. Yeah. So he was used to, you drink beer, you have. fun you talk so much shit yeah then at the end you all roll to a bar together right and you care but what are you going to beat up a guy because he's a reds fan no no no no no no cares nobody care like you talk shit yeah but then at the end you go like have a great day okay good game good who cares yeah you will yeah you went to the playoff game and we had pretty good seats and he was being so funny and he's not funny around others but he was just like in a zone right the people around would

all be even the daughters friends would be like okay and i was like well crockles killing it. You know, like, oh, they're like, oh, they're like, oh, they're like, oh, yeah, when my dad is cruising it. After my dad, like, my dad finds, but then the zone also is easy to fall out of. He makes one too many and you're like, all right, dad. Don't, uh, and they don't know the line. No, they have no idea. They don't know, they don't know when they're in the zone and when they're not. Maybe, you know, like, show hay's up and he's like, oh, go, hey, this guy, got him all the way of a football from China. Silence and everybody's like, Jesus Christ, you're like, dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, it's like, all right, man. All right, that's enough.

That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough dad. I like when the dads are in the line. They're in the zone and then they just dip right out of it. One line. One line. And I also love with that generation, when you see the faces changing and you can go before like, all right. It's like, oh, yeah, he's a real good-looking guy.

He's the kind of, all right. All right. Stop. It's not going to play. It's not going to play. But my dad was talking all sorts of shit. And then it was fun. and then a couple like true L.A. gangsters.

Oh, yeah. You know, with the literal L.A. on their heads. Yeah. They were talking shit back but smiling. Yeah. But it wasn't friendly. But Krakow's old. So it was like, what are they going to?

They're going to fight him. Yeah. I swear to God, I had to say to my dad. Stop, my man. Well, they had, you're not reading the signs. LA tats on their head. Yes. Yeah, when the tats are on the head, it does say, it says something else.

They were like, oh, is that right man, that right man? But they were like, and my dad thought like, it's fun. And I was like, you're not seeing the This ain't Wrigley, homeboy. That's the friendly confines. Correct.

This is a stadium that when the Dodgers came from Brooklyn, they took it from a Mexican community. Exiled families. Get out. And then they were like, no! And then we put a team there that wasn't from here.

And now everybody does love the team, but when it gets tense, it's a different level of tension. It is. So don't do this. Yeah, I had to explain to my friends, too. I was like, we get out of the car, we go right into the stadium. They're like, nobody tailgates.

I'm like, they put a guy from San Francisco in a coma, so no we can no longer tailgate. I was like, you don't do that here. That's not here. It's a different vibe. It's fun inside. Right. But if somebody's not having fun with you, you go like this, I'm so sorry. Sorry about that.

To me, it is just a baseball game. It's baseball. Yeah. If you really want to win this debate that you guys have more World Series, you do. Yeah. And I'm going to go home and not get stomped in the parking lot. I love my brain. Yeah.

More than I love this. I want to keep it. I'm going to keep my little brain. I need it. Yeah. I'm holding on so hard. Don't kill me. You're using it too much.

You too. No, you're working. I'm working. I'm out. Fucking. We talked about it outside. I'm out. We're out.

We're done. So I'm out. Okay. Last time we were here a couple years ago, we talked the podcast game. Yeah. It's helped me a lot. Yeah, pod game's huge. We talked off the record.

You know what I couldn't do that your idea was right? I just couldn't do it. video. Why, you don't want to show you that face? No, I'll tell you it's a different, what I love about it. I love being able to do it from my house in my closet. Yeah. But I view going out and doing the thing as my job. Yeah. So I like that this isn't my, it's great money, it's really fun, it's really easy with Gareth. Yeah. But I like that I'm in a fucking closet in underpants. Sure. And then interviewing somebody, and I have to go to the bathroom and I'm embarrassed to stand up because they're going to see my legs. So I got to go like, all right, man, let's everybody get off

Zoom. And they're like, well, we got one more caller. And I'm like, all right, everybody that want to shut off our cameras for like a second. Turn off cams. That's what we do here. We do mic only for a minute. I have to get up and literally, I'm afraid you're going to see the pastiness of my legs. See, I think that's worth it. I think

we need to see those legs. That accelerates you in the pod game. That's what we do. Bobby nudity helped tremendously with bad friends. Lots of nudity. He took those pants off? He's gotten nude on the pod constantly. Oh, yeah. How's it dick?

normal? Okay. He jokes that it's small, but it's not. It's a bad joke because it's not small. He's got to find it. I mean, it's not, it's regular. Yeah. He's not King Kong.

Well, you're never going to look at it and go, oh, my God. Like, that's so weird. You're going to look at it and be like, oh, it's a regular guy's penis. I will say that's what my penis is. A regular guy's penis? Yeah. Like when you're at a stall, when you go to a baseball game and everyone's peeing next to each other, you're fine. Yeah, but what I will tell you, for years.

of my life, I was disappointed that I have like a sedan. Right? Like Toyota Corolla. Yeah. As I've gotten older. I have an Avalon, Toyota Avalon. Similar but more sporty. Really? Yeah, my penis is a little bit more sporty than yours. No way. I was like, maybe it might be more comfortable than yours.

I agree, yours might be sportier. But mine, when you get in the groove of it, you're like, kind of a nice back seat. It's big. It's bigger than you thought. Well, you know what it is? It's roomier than you thought. But there's more storage. You can store more in the trunk than you ever thought possible. And it might be because I took something years ago. I was like, I just fucked around in here.

You can take this thing out. I don't need the tire. Oh, this comes off. And then I just put a little cheap carpet back there. Right. We do have weaners like Toyotas from the late 90s. Yeah. Because you don't know what color that is.

No. What color is that? You can't really tell. It's what you could never paint to match. Uh-uh. If you chip a door, Forget about it. Grus forever. That's it's it forever.

But there was an era going back to Wrigley when you see the trough, you see Woppers. And what gets me is it's not who you would expect sometimes. That's actually true. And I don't love that. Yeah, the guy that doesn't look like he might have a hawk. Kind of like a weasily looking skinny guy.

Skinny guy's always a big house. With like a flat brim cap where I'm like, I don't like your style. You're not my guy. And then we go next to her and I go like, well, that's unfortunate. I apologize for disrespecting you. In fact, I do like your style.

The reason he has no style is because he didn't have to worry about it. Yeah. The guy that's overdressed that looks really sharp all the time, that guy's got a pathetic penis. I know, but here's the problem with even that theory. Sometimes those pull out and I go like, why are you wearing a watch like that and you got a walker? Just be consistent. Yeah, like John Hamm, right?

Like he's got a big old hog. He doesn't deserve that. He's so handsome. He doesn't deserve that. He should have a regular dick. He should have a small dick. You should actually get regular. We should have a government program that regular.

your penis based on your handsomeness and success rate. I wish dicks were more like a communist country, where it really was. You kind of knew where everybody had the same. It wasn't that, like, I don't like how lucky it is. Yeah. I don't like how random it is. I don't like that it's not your body type.

Like, I would be so embarrassed if I had a tiny dick and I had an NFL or an NBA player's body. Because you know that happens. It exists, and I don't know where, but you know it's real. That would, for me, a nightmare would be. Mine is, I take my pants off of the woman, And she doesn't go like, oh, yeah. She's like, yeah, fine.

That's exactly what I would have guessed from your vibe, from your body type. The way you walk in space. Right. That's what I thought. Your gait should dictate your penis. Yeah, you're also who you are at like a bar at 1 a.m. Is your penis size. And mine is, should we fight for one more drink?

Or am I drunk enough? Or do we have two more and I make myself bar before I go to bed? but that's my penis size. Some guy's penis size is drinking time is done. I go home. Or one of these women is going to come home with me. Right. That's confident guy.

I'm get food on the walk, walk home quietly eating it, laughing a little bit once and a while. And then, yeah, that's my penis says. That's a level. I taught Luke, my cousin, I said when we left the goat this weekend, I said, we played darts. We love darts. And I said, you do guys?

He'll come sometimes when he's, when he's, he's an east side guy, dude. He's too cool. He's cooler than... Me too? But he's a young, cool, hip, east side kid. Me too? Oh, buddy. You got the same vibe, bro.

Sometimes I'll make my way to the east side, especially after a Dodger game. I'll go over there to go meet up with him and I'll be hammered and I'll just hand him money because that's my I want to be young. Same, by the way. I'll just hand him money when he's with cool young people. I'm like, buy everyone in our beer.

That's what we, by the way, because we have to know. That's what we're supposed to do. If we're in, if we go out at this point, it's one of the reasons I say no to dinners. when people are like, hey, we're all getting a dinner. I look at the table, I'm going to have to pay. Yeah, dude. That's six people.

I'm going to have to pay. And two of those people, I don't know, I don't need to spend $450 to sit there. No, I'm going to pay. But I can't sit there with this group and go like this. You guys, might do cards? Split? Splits?

Hey, you, I'm sure you don't have a job. What do you got, brother? They're like, no, I actually do work. I work from home. I'm self. I got you, my man. I got you, brother. I'm going to put the card down.

So, no big deal. And then when I'm driving home, I'm going like, could have had a weird TV. Yeah. Instead, I had like a chicken kebab that I didn't even love. It wasn't worth it. But that one fucking guy had a lot of appetizers. Four drinks. You're like, you get another special.

A special martini. Oh, wow. Good. And I can say this as a half Jewish man. My father used to do a thing that was the funniest thing that I got to know him later in life, as I've said. And when we would get together and I'd never seen this move. and I hate that I'm thinking the move sometimes that the bill, he was the guy

I got it, put your money away, everybody. But then when he would see the bill, he would just do a move where he would go like, forget it, Andrew, put your fucking money away. Then he would look and he would go, oh. You'd go like this. That doesn't make sense. Look at his going to go.

For this place? And then everyone's sitting there looking at, he already said put your money away. And he would go, I'd the kid over here, you know, 15 and the two years. And he would go. He would mingle your numbers.

Know your numbers. So everybody would have to sit there, and then he would go, and my kid over here with the app, but I was 17, that's 25. And you would just go like this? And it would be like a little tally going up. And then you'd have to go, all right. I'm happy to throw it. He'll go, snap about that, I just want to make sure it's right.

Yeah, that's right. You little asshole. But he would pay. always. Yes, see. And you'd pay for his friends. See, that's huge. But they had a system.

So it's why I like people of the same age, because really what I believe it is all has to come out in the wash. It should. The three of us went, this guy can never pay. But I'm buying the lunch. We're doing that. And then guess what? In the end, we're going to be 50-50.

100%. Yeah, that works out. And I don't care if it's 10 in a row. It will be 50. It will be 50. With him, it's no. Yeah, we don't. I paid one time for breakfast.

Why? Because I didn't have my phone on me? No, because you wanted to, like, prove a point. Oh, that's right, because we were going through something, and I wanted to, yeah, because he was being, he was being very unappreciative about something. He was being a little brat. I think that's you were being a brat. What was your point of view? That it wasn't that, it wasn't that expensive of a breakfast, and I was like, I understand the gesture, and I was like, that's very fair. I said, I said you're paying for breakfast today. I can handle the breakfast. Sometimes you got to teach him lessons. I mean, I'm handing the kid money all the time. That's okay. Yeah.

Hey, welcome to a segment I'd like to call Whiskey Ginge Predix, a segment presented by Fandil. Well, it's Wednesday right now. And the episode is coming out on Friday, but I do not know what happened last night or tomorrow, depending on how much you're into tinfoil hat, futures and simulations.

But I do think, I really do think, what is going to happen on Saturday is going to change the hearts of the minds of all the people on Fandul right now. I know the Spurs, because they got some home field advantage, although they did lose the first two games.

I do think the Knicks are going to win in five. I do think this is going to be a monumental thing for the city of New York. It's been 50-some-odd years since they've won, and that's where my money is going to go on the New York Knicks to beat the San Antonio Spurs to finally, finally slither themselves as champions, make themselves some champions. Also, it's FIFA World Cup, and I'm telling you, USA versus Paraguay,

going on tomorrow and my money is on U S.S.A. U.S.A. And more importantly, in my heart and in my soul is, of course, Major League Baseball, which I love so very much. And I'm telling you, I've had a little bit of a struggle with my Chicago Cubs. We were ahead of the major leagues. Then we dropped to third in the NL Central, which is really tough for me. I'm not going to lie, it really bothers me. It irks me. It grinds my gears that we lost to the White Sox and the cross-down rivalry, but tonight we're taking on the San Francisco yians up in San Francisco. Cubs are predicted to win, and I'm going to predict that W as well. And I do think right now we're just a shade above 500.

By All-Star Break, we're going to be six or seven games above 500. That is what I am predicting right now. You can make your own predictions, of course, on Fanduel. You decide. You decide. I'm not telling you what to do, but you decide. Are the Cubs going to make it to the World Series this year? I don't know. but will we make it?

Will we make it to the National League Championship Series? I would love to think so. I really would. And also, the WNBA is moving right now and the WNBA Commissioner's Cup is happening. Of course, my Chicago Sky

took a big L tonight, or this week, that is, when this episode comes out, and hopefully they'll be able to storm through. And I shouldn't say the storm shouldn't mention Seattle Storm because they're getting smushed all over the map. And I wish no ill will to them,

But hey, but my money tonight will be on the Valkyries instead of the storm because I do think they got it like that if you're a big WNBA fan. It's heating up over there for the WNBA Commissioners Cup. And finally, in the NHL, a big deal in the NHL. Hurricanes are pushing around Vegas as of Wednesday, but we will see what's going to happen last night. And then, you know, if necessary, game six is going to be in Vegas. what a world that may be to see Golden Knights win once again. Las Vegas has a lot of championships on their hands. I am predicting a Las Vegas Golden Knights

Stanley Cup. One more time etching their names in history. So you decide, you predict on Fandul. You decide who you think is going to be taking wins, losses, and spreads only on Fandual. This segment is presented by Fanduel. I gave him a hundred bucks the other night. I give him a hundred bucks.

I ran into him for ten seconds. I'd give him a hundred bucks a cha-cha. Just walked him and said, here's a hundred bucks. Well, he comes up and give him a hug and a kiss on the face, and I say hello to his friends. And I talked about how much I wanted to have sex with a little British guy. He's very cute. I kept telling him, he's like, you kept saying it.

I was like, look how cute that British guy is. He was something to him. Because he was compact and also like, hello, mate, nervous. And I was like, oh, I want to have sex with that little guy. I'll tell you something that you and I are similar, and it is a Chicago thing. when we were growing up, men used to talk about women this way. Yeah. 2020, we said, that's not fair because there is victimization and people are getting hurt.

I don't want to hurt anybody. I'm not into that, but I still miss talking sexual about people. It's all about men now. It's all boys. When I did the show, Minks, which was, you know, nudity about the 70s. I was so weird with men on that show. And it was for nobody. I didn't have like a main buddy I was hanging with.

So I would be alone in 70s costume. There would be a featured extra with his dick out. And then after the take you'd put his robe on, we'd be sitting there and I'd go like this. Like, good on you, brother. That's a great looking hog. And I was doing the joke for no one because I wasn't laughing. And they would be like, oh, thanks, man. And then I'd be like, that fucker's great, man.

You had that your whole life? And you'd be like, yeah. And I go, and when did it fucking explode? And they're like, huh? Did it start as a boy's dick? And then one day you had that monster? and they're like, it's always been pretty big. I'm like, God damn, you're a lucky son of a bit.

I'm talking about their bodies. The way that my dad and my uncles would talk about women's body. Oh, look at that, bro. Oh, my God. I would do anything. I could stick my nose in the hole. And then you're sitting there being like chicken fingers, like, in the butthole. Yeah.

Your dad's like, I let her fart in my mouth. Look at that. Huh? Look at that shitter. Take him a ranch. And that's gone away. That's gone. But now there's a little British boy? It's cute.

He was cute. And so I said, go buy, Tom, Tom. And I said, buy everyone a beer. Here's $100. And then he comes back. And then out of nowhere, he go, he elicits it. He's like, did you want your change? Oh, yeah.

I was like, no, just, God damn. That's an interesting question. He knows I don't want the fucking change. But what if the change is like $42? Ew, I mean, it was. Because it was chacha. It was only beers. Only four beers.

That's the right question. He's from the Midwest. I know. But that, because if you keep that, then you're being snaky. Exactly. But what you can do is tip it or buy the next round and you cover the rest. I wouldn't ask, I would then make sure this man has a drink too. And then the rest goes to his group.

What did you do? Well, I kind of assumed you didn't want the change, but I figured might as well do my due diligence and just ask. But did you ask because you actually wanted to keep the change? I mean, of course I wanted to keep the change. See, that's sneaky, dude. If he would have wanted it back, I'm like, he can't say he wants it back. No, I cannot. What's he going to go?

Yeah, and then he's going to go, there was no coinage. Yeah. So it was even. It was $16 even. And what did you leave for a tip? Yeah. That takes me the whole cool gesture of giving you a C note.

Yeah, that's right. You put him in an unwinnable situation, man. I'm going to need you to take your pants off and walk right on the floor. We're going to do an elephant walk. You front or back. I'm back. You know I'm back. You know I'm front.

Let's go, brother. No, you have to. You have to treat. You have to. My dad was that way, too. It was very interesting to always, I got it, I got it. But it was never, but it was never nice restaurants.

Yeah, totally. I don't think I went to like a nice restaurant until like, you know, something big. Yeah. Like someone graduated. Even still, we wouldn't really, like my parents to this day, not a fan of nice restaurants. Yeah. They don't really like them. What do you think of them?

They give me a little anxiety. They're a little overrated. Yeah. You know, like I like a nice restaurant once in a while for a thing, but we went to a spot the other night, and it's a new L.A. nice spot. and the food's the same. Yeah. I think they've sold us on a great trick.

Yeah. But they also sell you on the whole. It's like a really nice hotel. It's always a nice experience. Yeah, they sell you on the lobby. Yeah. They saw you on the elevator. You see the valet?

Yeah. Yeah, the valet's wearing a suit. Yeah, but here's the reality. The bed's the bed. It's still, yeah. But I do like a nice hotel. I do. I love.

I'm a little brat about it. You too. But that's because we travel. I know. I was in Austin yesterday. And they put me into four seasons. And I got there and I was like, this is different.

Yeah. Because I've been to Austin so many times when I've had to pay. Not at the Four Seasons. At the Marriott. That's somewhere. It's right down the road. I know where it is.

I've stayed in there. Many times. I'm sure that's right around the corner. That Four Seasons is right on the lake. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, they're like, do you want a view of the river? You're like, oh, yeah. Well, no, I want a view of an alley.

Can I get a view of a fucking toilet seat? The Four Seasons is like, we don't have any alleys. We actually made sure all of our views have no bad views whatsoever. It's all beautiful. you. Yeah, you do once you stay in those. It's nice. One thing I got to say about our first one that we did together was the great Anna Kendrick told me, she was doing something in our house, maybe working on her movie or something where she was like, I was stuck inside and she would listen to it a lot. Really? Yeah, and I go more than once. And she goes, it's less about what

you guys are saying and more the way both of you speak. She's like, it felt very like Midwest and very Chicago and there was a rhythm to it and it was just soothing. You know, people say this, that they fall asleep to the show sometimes. They're like, it's very funny, but I'll put it on at night sometimes when I want to go to bed. Just because they want to hear the rhythm of the... It's kind of like how dogs hear... That's what you want when you're falling asleep. Speaking of, you know what I just did on the plane yesterday and I felt like a real pervert?

I love this. And I don't even care, and I am leaning in. so I did I'm doing press I'm got two Apple things right now and one of them we're doing the movie called The Dink which is really funny July 24th and one of the promotional things they put those AirPod Maxes on me the oh yeah the over the ears noise cancelers

yeah never had them you never had the in the ear noise cancellers never wow all I do is the old school cord connected to the phone the wire yeah because it's I like it I'm used to it fun you listen to Kamala Harris talk about that didn't you do you not know this clip? No. The people are like, why do you have wired headphones? She's like, let me tell you something.

If you think they can't hack into your headphones, you're crazy. She's not wrong. Yeah, I know. She's right. I know. I know. It made half of the country be like, I'm going to get the wires. But, by the way, that's exactly right.

Yeah, I'm going to get the wires. But so I did this promotional thing and then I said like, oh, wait, if I'm in a commercial for these AirPods maxes, they got to send me a free one. I was like, it's a funny promotional clip because you're interviewing people, but the two can't hear. Oh, that's like, this is one of those like Jimmy Fallon gags. Yeah. But I'm like, this one was pretty funny.

Yeah, it was good. I had kind of like a bitchy attitude at the start. But then when you stayed like Aaron Chen, I go, tell me about the movie. And he goes, I think you're asking me about what food I had. I'm like, this is funny. I can't lose. But so I said, will you send me some of those please? So they did.

And I had them. And I was like, yeah, I got these fucking cold maxes, whatever. I put them on. My kids taught me how to do the noise canceling. And instantly it just goes like, it's crazy. So I started listening to ASMR. Yeah. of women's voices

talking to you as if they are like a sexy mother telling you you did you did good Andrew I don't know I'm gonna pretend I started it as a joke but it wasn't a joke yeah I was like I'm tired on this plane I put it on I was like I'm listening to some cool music jazz is cool I'm cool and I was like yeah yeah three hours on this fucking thing how many songs can I really listen to right I'm not a music guy I'm not like listening to the notes

right so I went on Spotify I went like A-S-M-R, and then it was like R-rated, and it was like blowjog sounds. I was like, this is disgusting. I don't need to hear like, right? Like, you need that surround sound? Imagine it's just the guy going, oh, oh. It's not her at all. It's just a float.

You mean, you mean porno? Yeah. This whole generation of like alpha males being like, dude, I love porn. And you just love watching fucking hogs screaming. Yeah. This is the wild. Hold on the hog. Pause.

Hold for hog. Yeah. Just everybody is now so, because of the availability of porn, we're all so coming. coming to penises having. Oh, yeah. Like, you tell me that when I was growing up, not in a million years, brother. When you're growing up looking at like a JC Penny catalog of a woman in lingerie, it's like, the way a whole generation of men are going to have orgasms is when a bunch of hogs are around one woman.

You go like this. Is that real life? That's the future. 20 dicks, one girl. And that's what we all want. It's almost all dicks. The girl's there just because. I'm so sorry, but I'm just a caveman from another hero.

Why do all these men like this? It's all penises. Yeah, it is. All penises. Dude, it's fucking. She's loving it. Sure, she is. But what are you loving about seeing all these days?

I love that she loves it. That's what I love. Okay, so your point of view of her. Yeah. That's what I mean. But so I start listening to this. What's the name of it? Can we say it?

I don't, it was like, you know, mothers, helper, something stupid like that. I didn't know idea. The first thing that came to. up that wasn't literally this. I was like, Jesus, get out of my ears. It's everywhere. Yeah, it's all around here. And I did, I closed the eyes.

I was like, let's just zone out. Starts off and comedically, I was like, I'm making fun of this. I'm in on the joke, even though I was alone. I was like, this is so funny. But it was like, a woman's voice being like, oh, you're such a good boy, you're so, you did so good today. And I was like, ha-ha, I need to hear this. Ten minutes in, I'm like, light in the dark.

I'm like the flight tenant walks by something to drink and I'm like huh I'm you didn't hear that did you? Who's that on speaker? It's just like but I was like oh this is a whole new world I'm now I'm going to explore this ASMR of women of a mommy be like because what it is and I know we have the same issues the way I wish dicks were the same the only thing that is accurate are men's issues Oh, yeah. Men see other men's issues really fast.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You want to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sucks, huh? Yeah.

But hearing, like, a woman's voice that is this, like, fictional type of mother that's, like, so nice. And so, I'm like, that'd be cool if that existed. Yeah. I love to hear that. Some people get that growing up? All the time. In here, we pour whiskey. Go!

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I'm the only one that hasn't seen it on my birthday. Yeah. I'll take you to go. We'll go, because I got to see it. $180 million. That's, what does that mean? The movie's going to make $180 million. It costs a million to make.

$750, they said. Wow. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you... I'm really annoyed by this, though, by the way. You are so excited. This is giving people a lot of hope. I'm like, don't...

We need it. We do, but I'm also like, hey, everyone in the world, don't think that this is a real... This is an anomaly. Yeah, but I also think... This is LeBron James. I kind of see it a little bit differently

in that... I know everyone's so... This is what the business does, man. It bobs and weaves. I know. It's good. It's a good thing. It's great.

But also, like... I don't want everybody to think they're going to make a million-dollar movie and it's going to make a $180 million. No, but here's what I will tell you from a guy who's made a lot of million-dollar movies. You can make money on it. You're not going to make $180 million. Oh, but those guys did.

But guess what? If that happens, great. Because now rather than making a million-five profit, you might make $2.5. This is real money. It's good. And I think their whole movie, I think they shot it in 18 days or something crazy. So it's like you don't have to spend nine months making a movie in Budapest. My wife asked me last night, we were sitting in bed, scrolls.

Dooms scrolling through Netflix, Apple, Bada,da, Amazon, da-da-da. We do it every night, same thing. And then we always end up watching a documentary about the Hindenberg. And we did. We did. I said that yesterday.

And we're doom scrolling, and she was like, about that obsession movie. She's like, well, how did it gain so much traction? She's like, what is it about it that got into the zeitgeist of the thing? And I was like, I don't know. I can't even tell you what I think. And I don't know that answer, but the thing that,

because my kid loves horror movies. So I don't. I've never been into it, but in the last couple of years, I go with her now. Is it jump scare? No. I think... Like that? No.

I think what it was that made that so good was the main woman's performance. She's that good. She does... It's a really hard part. Yeah. And she does it really well. She's super obsessed with this man who wishes it upon this relationship. So who she is as a person is...

She's cool. She kind of friends owned a guy. She ain't into him. But she's the girl that you're like, I'm totally in love with! Yeah. And she ain't into you. Until.

And then he does this thing. And now she's both. That's great. And so she does it in a way where you're like, that's your fantasy. If the person you want is not totally into you, and then you're like, it ain't great. Does it be careful what you wish for? It's all it is. It's big.

It's what? Monkey's paw. Yeah. Well, good for him. Curry? Yeah, he was in comedy. Wasn't he like a YouTube guy? Yeah, he do a lot of YouTube sketch stuff.

And he was, I think it says on Zime to be he was in an episode of Dave. Oh, really? He did a, yeah, oh, well, yeah. Well, it's the young Turks. Same career path. The young Turks, man. Yeah, they're here. No, no, it's good.

I mean, good on him. I saw his face on stuff before, but I didn't really know anything about him, but he did an episode of Dave, look it up. That's incredible. That's what it says. I just go with him. Well, Tau, speaking of, what are you doing professionally? I'm out. I'm done.

What does this mean? We're done. We're going to say good night. I'm Mr. Podcast. I'm Mr. Podcast. Yeah. They call me Mr. Podcast. You're great in the game.

I'm Mr. podcast, and stand-up. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna stick to these two things that I love. Okay. I don't want to do the thing anymore. And tell me why, because I, I, I just, don't love it. I just don't love it. Okay, so when you, I'm supposed to do a thing with our friend Lamorne. What's the thing? Do it. Yeah. I mean, who knows? It may be, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole development of it all. But it just, I was like, maybe we'll do it. I mean, I, and I like him a lot. He's the best. I always want to see what car he's driving, you know. It's a sad thing about him, dude

And this is real Say something mean about him right now Cut this out, obviously He creates fake charities What does that mean? So we just did Celebrity Wheel of Fortune His charity, he pockets the money And gets a

He leases him out But hey, man, you gotta cut that shit out I can't be out He's a sweet guy But all his charities are about like You know kids in another country He's like schools I don't know

He's like Malta Like what do you know about Malta. He's like, we're taking care of the kids over there, man. Where is it? It's way out. He's like, I don't know. I've got somebody who runs it for me. And then all of a sudden, he pulls up in a new car. And he would never tell him. And this, you know, obviously, this can't be on the shoe show. But he said to me, in confidence, he goes, I love fucking over porkheads. I was like, it's so disgusting. That sounds like him. That does sound like the moment.

The goal that what you're portraying is Robin Hood. And he goes, but it's, but it's so disgusting. It's but it's the opposite. Oh, wow. And I was like, that's really dark. Anyway, I don't want to spend any more telling him, though. But that's him in a nutshell. That's who he really is. Oh, it's sad.

It's disgusting. But so you're walking, so when we say we're walking away from the business. I'm not really walking away. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just. But is it a secret play that you're like, I don't want to do the dance? No. So do you, so here's what's happened.

Here's how we've been different. Last time I was here, I think I was promoted a movie that I wrote and directed. I think that's what it was. Yeah, it was. I haven't done any real writing since or any directing, and I have no desire to right now. You're while you're burnt. I was so tired.

You did. You told me how exhausted. You were like, I don't even know. I don't feel like me anymore. I hated the whole game. I am now going back to just be an actor. It's great. Well, you're great.

So it's why not? That's perfect. But I get called. I get the opportunity. I decide if I want to do it. In my contract, I'll say like the days I can work. Great. You show up like maximum pleasure guaranteed,

the one I'm promoting right now. It's really Tatiana's show, the main woman. She's excellent. She's a real actor. Mansley. Yes. Yeah, she's phenomenal. She's phenomenal.

She and I, and it's me, her, and this woman, Jesse Hodges, who's a great actor. Oh, yeah, also good. Great. Yeah. My whole thing is I'm going through divorce with Tatiana, and now I cheated on Tatiana, and I'm with Jesse. Yeah. And we're going through a custody battle. I show up to New York, David Gordon-Green directed.

We fight for a day and a half. And then I fly home. No one's showing me cuts being like, what do you think? I'm on no meetings. Everyone's going, do you like this color correction? Color correction. I'm sitting here with headphones

I'm listening to a woman telling me good job. I'm slammed. I've been doing this for four. Hello? The fucking nerve you got. Good job. You're a big boy, Jay. I know I am.

I'm an actor. But I'm like, Like, oh, this is working for me. Yeah, it's fun. I was like this. I'm like... Back where you belong, maybe. Well, in this, you know, every era we all change.

Yeah. I just saw this really funny clip from Maya Hawke. Mm. Ethan Hawk. Ethan Hawke. I was hoping I was saying everything right. No disrespect. It's his daughter?

Yes. Yeah. And Uma Thurman's daughter. Great actors. But she said something really funny. She was talking shit about male actors. Mm-hmm. And I hit home.

She said she had heard a woman say that, a female actress is a little bit more than a woman and a male actor is a little less than a man that's so good I was like this that is true that is very true and a director Akiva Schaffer who did you know he did the pilot I just did for NBC

so funny so great he told me when I was directing the movie he said like just so you know directing his dogs work and I was like no it isn't like you're the captain of the ship he's like uh-uh you'd all the work. You do. And the writer, you're doing like all the rewrites that you don't even agree with.

Right. You'll get a note that you'll be like an actor will give a note and you'll be like, amazing, amazing, amazing. Thank you for that. Can I see it on the sides? Oh, so literally tonight after work I have to do homework for your ass? They're like, yeah. Yeah, and then you do. You're doing overtime. You're doing overtime. Yeah, you're the captain of the ship and you're also

cleaning the ship, docking the ship, hosting the party, hosting the party, cleaning up the party. Drive, make sure people get driven home okay. Then the part that really got to me is then part of your job is complimenting everybody for doing their job. Because morale matters.

So then you got to go like this. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Thanks for helping me while I cleaned that party. You did a little less cleaning than me. And who's thanking you? Good boy, Jake. If I had the fucking headphones then, I'd still be directed.

100%. But that was my realization. of like, you know what, just know the lane you like. But I view you is because you've had a run lately. We did a little bit more. I saw you had a John Sina movie. Three years ago. Okay.

Yeah. Three years ago. I shot everything three years ago. Everything's three years. Everything from me was three years. But you had a bunch of shit coming out where it was like... It was just like two years I did a lot of stuff at once. And then after that I felt very like...

What am I doing here? Not satisfied. I was like, what I don't even know what this is? Like, what am I even... So we're going to try to make some stuff. Okay. Well, I guess what I'm saying is, I'm, I just, we're going to make stuff on our own a little bit.

Because I think we made this karate ghost thing. I'm going to send it to you after this. I think the, that's fine. Sorry. I think the, uh, um, I tried squeezing it in a tight spot. Yeah, it didn't make sense. And I, actually, I did think it does fit. Yeah.

But it's okay. Good boy, Jake. Back on. Anytime you feel uncomfortable. You know what? Just give me two minutes. Someone gives you notes on set. They're like, Jake, that wasn't the take we liked.

And you're like, mm-mm. I pretend I had the thing where I need headphones on around in the big crowds. You're like, I just, it's a, what is it called? Sensory overload. I'm like, I'm so sorry, I'm good. And then they go like, oh, he needs quiet. And then somebody's like, does he have a bonner? Oh, he sucks.

Slowly scratching his leg. He's not a good person. I'm like, I'm so sorry, but in this crowd, I just, that dude genuinely sucks. He's a bad person. We're going to, I'm going to set it to you. We're just going to make our own stuff. I think we're going to.

But is that why? Is that because you got bored in, like, development yeah well that one's that part so you're just like hearing it because i'm just tired of i'm just tired of um um uh singing for the supper when i'm like well i can make my own food yeah that makes i'll just go make my own food i got i guess i got tired of being like hey hey hey what about me you like you like this you like this now we're like hey we'll just make it and if the fans love it awesome yes and if someone else likes it too and the business is like we we would like to work with you on this it's like great or we can just go we're okay

We'll just keep doing it on and on. So the beauty of the podcast world, which I have now also learned, is you do have a direct link to the audience. The peeps are there. They're seeing it. They like it. I got it too with We're Here to Help. I forgot to mention the last one. I love We're here to help.

Thanks, brother. You were great on it. You guys are so fucking funny, man. But, you know, that was when we started doing that podcast, it was you and I were talking to. Yeah. And it is, it's a direct link to a base. Yeah, to people that want to consume more of your shit. I like this.

Yeah. So you're like really fun. But the only thing I like about the. business of it. Mind it, we might have had younger, different goals as younger men. Well, yeah, you were much more. I always dreamed of acting. Yeah, right. And you always dreamed to stand-up. I dreamed of, I mean, my hero, my wife said that to me the other day. She was like, what was your, what was your idea of it when you were a kid? Because it's great. I'm not complaining. I'm happy right now. But Jim Carrey was like the ultimate, to me, it was like,

that's the dream. A stand-up who gets to do comedic acting when he wants. And then, of course, it took off in a way that I'm sure even he was like, holy shit. But that was. That was. That the dream. Oh, 100% is being a stand-up who got to do comedic roles of characters and kind of bury yourself in these things. What about like a Ray Romano? No. Thank you guys for Ray Romano, someone going like, oh, I love Ray so much. He's the man. No, I think like I just wanted, I was obsessed with, maybe I didn't project that enough. I was obsessed with the idea of burying myself in a weirdo character because I really did love that as a kid. I was obsessed with transforming. I think when you don't like yourself, you're like, I want to be somebody else.

But also when you, the other thing is when you know how to make people you want to feel good, and you go, it doesn't matter how I feel right now. If they're happy, that helps my Wednesday. 100%. That you go, oh, they wanted this version of me, then I'm happy to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm like, that's acted. 100%.

Yeah, that's really fun. That was my whole childhood. So I wished that. Like, the way I saw him be Ace Ventura, the way like I saw him be these things, I was always like, oh my God. you get to play like that that this is no disrespect to acting yeah yeah it's just when actors are acting very well like someone like Brad Pitt who's a great actor yeah like sick like Fight Club yes incredible he is Tyler Durdon agreed right but he's also Brad Pitt yeah because he's fucking stunning yeah so you're so hot that you're like I can't

help but oh great yeah so with Jim it was like I saw a man become another human being and I was obsessed it like blew my mind. I was like, you can be another person, a whole fucking different, and your face looks different and everything looks different. And that kind of turned me on. By the way, same. But I feel that way less with movies and more with TV. Well, TV has more ability to do it now. Because, well, you also have 80 episodes. So what I love is people deep down just think you are the character. Yeah. And when they like a show enough, they're like, you guys didn't even have to act. Yeah. You're like, well, that's the compliment.

Right. Because that was that. When I watched Cheers growing up, I really believed that bar exactly. Oh, me too. And I really thought, like, that's awesome. And then everybody I know my dad would be like, you know, you know, your grandpa knows, he knows George Went. George Went. You know, he knows him really well. Everybody knows George Went.

In Chicago, everybody. Everybody had a beer. Had a beer with George Wayne. Oh, who went? Yeah. He's a fucking good guy. He's a great guy. His brother used to own a little sandwich shop on Diversi.

Honestly, he's a real guy, man. He's a real. He's one of us. Yeah. And, you know, I'm happy for a guy like that because at the end of the day, he's just a guy. They talk about them like they all went to elementary school with them. Every Chicago guy does it.

Here's what happened in real life. George was at the bar because he had a drinking problem. And then some guy at the other side of the bar goes like, goes, like, goes, comes to socks, George. And he goes like, oh, my best buddy, George. No, he's a good guy. He's a good guy. That's a sax guy.

George goes to say. I thought, when I was young, I thought Ted Danson did play for the Boston Red Sox. I thought Ted Danson was a pitcher as well. I 100% was like, that guy must have been a pitcher at some point in his life. And I also thought, well, ladies, man, but he's not great with ladies because he only thinks about sex. And then I thought, Coach and Sam Malone loved coach. God, I loved coach. I thought like...

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Ginger. I like genders. But the acting to fully walk away from all that. Now I get what you're doing because there's the other thing right now that other people are making things

really independent, which I think is cool. And when I'm like, there is something to that world, but I'm like, but I do like, and I think you like it too. I like the machine.

I do. Well, we all kind of love the machine. But younger generations, I don't think they do. I think they really have a thing of it of like, it's a dinosaur. And I'm like, to them, I'm like, totally.

Yeah. But it's not like, it's the, like, if, it's, if I'm in like silent films and now there's talkies and I'm like this, dude, it doesn't make any sense that they're not even talking. And then at home I'm like, practice with like. And I'm like, well, I've just been doing this my whole life. And then deep down with my wife, I'm like, they don't think they can convey things without words.

But that to me is the machine. Yeah. And I'm like, as long as the machine has a harp, it's literally one of the reasons I did the NBC thing, because NBC did pilot season. I miss those days. Dude, I miss them so much. They were really fun. And guess what? We did a pilot.

And then it was with Dan Gore, Luke de Trecchi. And I was like, it's an NBC. I was like, it's for sure going, right? And I was trying to get like people to go like, this is a fake pilot, but it's for sure going. And everyone was like, no, we're going to have to test it. That's great. And then I was like, I'm so excited about this. That's a real thing.

And then when they tested it, it was like, it tested really high. I'm like, great, because we were nervous and they worked really hard at it. Rather than we just picked up 10 and then did a writer's room and we'll see. No, we're doing a show. We're testing it. You're putting it out. You're making sure people like it. What they don't, we're making changes.

Right. I'm like, oh, fucking television. Like, I remember a girl got fired on my first sitcom. She got fired from the table read. And that blew my fucking mind. What was the table read? I've seen someone get fired from table. It was at ABC.

It was at one of those like towering ABC building. right off the 134, that like, of course. That big stupid, and we're in the, in the banquet hall. And you have to do a table read in front of like, I know, a hundred fucking humans. And you're like, who are these humans? And it's stressful. And as a stand-up, luckily, I'm used to doing crowds.

So you're like, well, I can, I get being on for the crowd. Right. But I think some actors don't get being on for the crowd because it's not part of their shit. They shut down. Yeah, they get weirded out. They do this at the table. Yeah. Oh, or they look down and they do not look up the entire fucking time.

going like this. Yeah, they don't want to engage. And I don't, and I don't discredit them. It doesn't take away from their talents. But I saw, you know, this poor girl afterwards, she called me and called another guy and was like, and she's, by the way, done phenomenal for herself. She's fine. She bounced right back. But she was like, was that fucking weird?

And both of us were like, it was a little strange, but I think the energy was bad too. And it was. The energy was bad. And they almost set her up to fail a little bit. Yeah, it happens. And the lines were bad. Totally. And like, you felt it slowly.

go oh it was really weird I mean I did I bombed my tits off in front of Will Ferrell for a new show and I remember you did bomb my fucking tits off I was at a funnier di-read and for a new it was a movie that they were doing and it's Will and and Adam McKay and blah blah blah and I'm in the room and I am

tanking the lines and I mean it's just not the rhythm is bad oh my god and then afterwards they were like thanks a lot and I was like fuck like that I just you're a good boy on the way home I hate it. It fucked me up. Dude, that shit fucks me bad. But it's good for you because without that, that's what we mean about the machine.

Without that, you don't get more strength to, like, figure out the faults or figure out the... You need the thing. You need the failures. You do. You need the misses. For me, I need the adjustments where I'm coming in soft and somebody kicks me in the face. And I go like, oh, I thought you guys were being nice. Right.

I was like, oh, I didn't, I thought we were done fighting. And then you go home and you go like, oh, I got to make an adjustment. Yeah, you got to figure it out. I got to figure it out because, oh, yeah, this is the fucking jungle. Right. And whenever I get too fat and comfortable, I go like, you know, my favorite thing in the world is any, you like the documentaries about Henneberra. I like them about animals. Yeah.

Oh, okay. You're with, what's his name, Adenborough? Well, I, you know, what I, I just watched, uh, Silverbacks. Oh. A book, a gorilla documentary. And I loved it in a way. It got weird. You're walking around your house.

silver backing around your wife. I've been doing that for a while. I have a pre-doc. But what's happening to me is, and if I'm ever going to direct another project or write another project, I'm literally just going to copy guerrilla documentaries

and turn it into human experiences. Because it's the same story. Right. And I'm watching, I was just like, this is what I fucking love more than anything. These interactions between these girls, it is the same as us. And then you've got certain guerrillas

where they're like, like, jungle. was a great leader. He was the leader for more than 15 years, but, like, Ichewa was getting stronger. And then he's like, but Chunga was not an aggressive leader at all. He thought there was room for everybody. Ichua disagreed.

And all of a sudden, he's his big old fucking gorilla being like, I got everything. I got the alpha females into my ship. Yeah. I got probably 25 kids running around. We got a big old pack on the side.

And then Ichua comes fucks his ass up. And then they go, now he had a decision to make. That's be a lone gorilla and run off or start supporting a new guy. And they did. And I would never spoil it. Don't spoil it. But you just start going like, oh, that is so neat.

And what I love about the adjustments and talking to you about the game is, how long do we get to play? Because there is going to be a moment when it is over. Oh, yeah. And you go like, so for me, when I did the directing thing, I was like, I'm a fine director. But Max Winkler told me something so funny after the cut of my movie. He goes, you want to know the hardest part

of directing a feature? And I was like, everything. And he goes, the realization that you're not a genius. And he goes, you're just a guy who makes movies, man. And he goes, and the movie's good, Jake. I liked it. He's like, but you're not like a genius. You're not Paul Thomas Anderson.

You're a guy who does TV who could direct a movie. You could probably do more. And I was like, I know, I never thought I was one. Right back to the guerrilla documentary, and Jingo realizes he has moved on. Oh, he hasn't. I want the one with the lady. You are a genius. Thank you.

But I was like that kind of for me, I was like, all right, so you can keep doing these. Yeah. But I was like, but if I got X amount of time on the side of the mountain, I'm not going to compete with Jordan Peel as a director. This young kid who did, these kids are doing obsession in that. Curry. Barker? Yeah. But these are.

These are guys who are so technically. sound and love that side of it. Obsessed. And they're good at it. Yeah, very good. So you're like, like, I had, after my movie, I did a promotional thing, Lamorna and I did it together. I was like, will you help me do some promotion? So I was like, will you interview me for the movie, but we'll do it in your bed and we'll pretend it's at your house. And we'll create a fake series, like, in bed with Lamarton. And Lamorne always says yes. So he's like, sure. And my buddy, Nick Jasanovic was going to direct it.

And I thought I was kind of directing it, too. And they go, all right, we're going to scout. and I was like, well, fucking skip the scout, man. And he's like, Jake, I like scouting. And I was like, oh, I'm such a bitch. Yeah. I like shit all over it. And I was like, do I have to go? He's like, you're not directly.

And I was like, thank you. You're a little actor boy. He's like, you're not doing it. I'm going to scout. I'm going to get the perfect location that I want. He goes, do you care? And I go, I trust you. Right.

I just literally want to go lay in bed and do bits with Lamorne. Yeah. And get notes from you and go home. Right. And I was like, great. Now Ichua's got eight more years on the side of the mountain. Before Jungo takes back over. Someone's coming. Someone's coming. A new Jungo is coming.

Yeah, but you're seeing, for your game right now, you're like, I can go direct at my audience. I got a big base. You love stand-up. I love. I just want to go back to them. I just want to go back and give them stuff. It's almost like the beginning of our career. Like when I first found out about doing stuff on YouTube or whatever, which is what we did. I did a YouTube show like 15 years ago where I played a character at my buddy Dan's house. And we just threw it up on the internet. And back then, and it got like 100,000 views some of them, and it was like staggeringly.

It was crazy. And I just played this dumb character in his basement. I want more of that stuff. Interesting. Just because I get to transform it and we get to just do it. And also we're failing live. Like the, it's not super packaged. So we're getting to kind of fumble live with them,

which is what pods are too. Yeah. I think that is the best part of pods of what I now love about doing my podcast is how mad the audience gets at you when you make mistakes. Yeah, oh yeah, they get real upset. And I love how vocal, because, you know, I got ADHD, my brain's everywhere. Yeah. So I just like changing the show a lot.

And Gareth, such a sweetheart, is at this point where he's like in an abusive relationship, where he's like, you're famous enough that I have to keep saying yes, but I've known you long enough that I can say like, that's a stupid idea, brother. But you've got to keep trying it. But I said, he's like, why don't we just, he's like, I've done podcasts, I do the Dolph, it's very successful. It's create a format and keep doing it. And I'm like, I would rather be The Beatles and try to make an album that everyone goes, I hated that album.

For sure. And I was like, because if I do the same thing, then it becomes a job, and then I get bored, and then the audience will go like, they're talking for 20 minutes before the show starts. Stop, it's boring. I'm like, I hear you. It was fun for us.

Right, but it's for you. But it's fun. Yeah. And it's okay if it's changing, we'll see our numbers because the analytics are so fun. You'll be like this, then you'll drop. then you'll find. Then you're like, yeah, they got mad at us.

It's fun. And it's fun. Checking and not watching this one. No thanks. Yes. I love that. Yes. No thanks, Antino.

Not watching this one, dude. Yeah, exactly. And like, dude, really lost me with that line. Didn't think you were that kind of guy. I'm like, what kind of guy? Yeah. I'm a lot of kind of guy. No, they figured you out, baby.

And then they get so mad and then they'll come back and be like, dude, but when you said that, that meant a lot. You're like, no, I mean anything. We're just all bullshiting. But that fun of it all. Yeah. That's not the machine. No. And, but what's great about the machine is when it gets kicking, I now like all the executives.

I now go to the dinners. Well, you're cruising right now, too. Yeah. That's it. You're cruising. You're Ichua dog. You're in it. I'm an old Ichua.

But it doesn't matter, but they love, but Ichua is still, and we're not going to give it away. We don't want to spoil what really happened. Yeah. But even old Eichua. They all got poached. Because that's AI. I'll tell you what the guerrillas don't have to deal with is fucking technology. You're coming.

No, they're good. Smoking these fools. They're good. They're okay. We're, I think it's going to be okay with us, too. I think it's going to be fine. There's going to be, like, everything else. There's going to be stuff, and then there's going to be AI products, and there's going

to be, like, I remember, you remember this era, drum machines have no soul? Mm-hmm. Oh, my God, dude. It was on, like, shirts and shit, too. Yeah. It's crazy. Could you imagine a band with a drum machine? Because actually, the drummer is the soul, and it was some guy with no sleeves.

who was always the drug addict being like and you're like at a concert and stoned out of your ass you're like dude I can just watch Jeff play and I'm not gonna watch a computer

do fucking Jeff's job Jeff's dad used to punch me in the face brother so mad like a little 15 year old Jeff beat the shit of these drums and then you'd be like do his parents here

his mom is yeah his dad didn't show his dad didn't show that's why again he's scanning the crowd exactly Dude, he can really play with Led Zeppelin. He can do all the shit.

He was so good, so talented. But then guess what happened? The fucking drum machines come, and then there was electronic dance music. They have a whole thing for it. A lot of people love it. It's never meant shit to me. Sure. But a lot of people.

And there's going to be people being like, dude, my favorite prompt is AI movies. Then fucking watch them. Fine. Then there's going to be people who like other stuff. There's going to be people who want it direct to consumer. I'm like, it's not going to change. I don't think in our lifetime.

No. It's just going to be other things. The change, it will be in our lifetime, but it won't be this, like, ever sweeping. No, no, no, it doesn't make sense. And they also say that, too, and I hate it where people are like, LA's dead. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

I'm okay with them saying that because no one's here now. It's great. You're like, yeah, it's dead, go away. I'm like, it's paradise here. Yeah, no, it's still very beautiful. It's also, it's the same. Yeah. And I'm like, good, if a lot of people want to leave,

then go, don't come back. It's fine. But honest, I'm like, and you want to talk shit about it. Do it. go to a whole other city, bring all your friends with you. But like, I'm over here. Yeah. Because it's fucking paradise.

It's also hard to move. I just don't want to get up and go. I'd like to be able to say, I move to blank. No way. It's really hard. Whenever I'm someplace else, the first day I go like, it's awesome here. And then there's always something really quickly. I go like, get me the fuck home.

I will say the one thing, no matter how angry I am at L.A. are happy with L.A. When I fly back home after touring. And right as you're coming over downtown to go land, there's something about it. I don't even know what it is. Maybe it's from my youth and film and seeing. I know exactly what you mean.

Something in that like we're coming over downtown and you're just like, look at that, there it is. You know, it's like that sweeping. I'm here. It's really weird. I don't know the place of dreams, man. I do that in Chicago too,

but that's also because I'm going home and it's like a, nostalgic thing, you know, especially when they flip you over the lake, which also I feel like is, I feel like they do that just for you to go, oh, just for the this. Yeah, I tell you, speaking of, I moved my mother, Eve Johnson, to Los Angeles last week. She doesn't like it. Oh. She, uh...

Guest house living? Maine house living. So, I got a house in Los Angeles. I know, I know. I know you got a lot of houses. I'd been renting out for a while. Mm-hmm. And Eve's at the point where I want her here, but Eve's tough.

she's set in her ways I love my mama my mama tough my mama's of the old world she doesn't fuck around she's and I'm realizing it less and I'm seeing it more and more

I saw it when my dad died and I think we talked about this but man that whole type of person's going away and they're not being filled up the new generations are coming and we are a certain type but we're a quarter of what those people were.

And they'll consider us characters. Right. And like, no, no, no, no. I was the dopy kid from the suburbs. Yeah. These were the fucking, like, if you saw my uncles all hanging out, now it would be like, good fellas. Yeah, it's cartoonish. It's even the way they dressed.

Yeah. You'd be like, cool jacket, Eddie. Dude, that's a sick-ass leather jacket with a perm. Yeah. It goes away, but I realized when my dad died, I was like, oh, this generally, like, when I first moved to Ola, my dad was hanging out, because they got sober, so he was in all the AA, but it was everybody, I guess, in AA and NAA just, like, finds their very specific click in those programs. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of subcultures with the culture, man. And they judge each other. It's very funny.

It was good at it or who's not. Yeah. And my dad was in a group of car salesmen. What? It was like, my dad was the Jew. It was the Mick. it was the day go yeah

and they were all he's the that's the wop the Jew that's how they did it that's the guy with the limp he likes black girls

you're like the truth phone and this guy Gleeson from Gleeson Ford oh shout out Gleeson Ford back in today

he we would all go and he was the old head at the table my dad was probably 65 Gleas was about 80 Gleas would order for everybody

me included and he didn't get the orders right but he wasn't a real godfather this was not mafia it was a generation of people who loved the mafia, but they were not mafia. Right, so they imitated it often.

It was fake. Yeah. They were not genuine tough guys. By the way, this had a reprise with Sopranos. For some reason, people on the East Coast thought that they were also in the mafia again. But they're not in the mafia. No. The real mafia has rules and structure. Yes. You're just wearing a jumpsuit and ordering for me. And you're tipping while handshaking, but you're not in the mafia. You're not the mafia. But it is a nice thing to do. It is, but I moved my mom out here. And it has been so funny watching her adjust. To L.A. To everything.

Because how many times has she really been in L.A.? I mean, she visited me once. Oh, shit. That's a huge leap. And it came out of nowhere. She finally said, like, I'm ready. And did you sell her place when she have a... As of today, the deadline for offers on her place is happening while we're in here.

So when I walk out, there'll be, that decision will happen. That's not your child at home that she lived in, though. Yeah. That's what's way. That's long gone. Yeah, long gone. That was gone when I was 15. Wow.

But so my mom didn't have, I talked about this, but my mom didn't have ID. So she tried to go the old school way and she's like, it'll work. I'll just go to the airport. And I was like, it's not going to work if you don't have valid ID. And she's like, it's me. She goes, I talked to the fucking people at TSA. I was like, okay. So it didn't work.

Of course not. She got locked out of the system. I don't know what happened. So then we had to figure out how to get Eve from Chicago to, Los Angeles. Without an ID. Without valid identification. No passport.

No. No nothing. Nothing. And 80 and is lippy. Yeah. Mouths off right away. Like in a real way. You don't have my fucking number. Well, we don't know you, ma'am.

And also, in this day... You know who my son is? Not that. Jen do that. No, because she's been this way forever. She would fight Taco Bell employees when I was a kid. She was the lady that you're in line, and the lady would be like the 16-year-over-

bro be like, want hot sauce? Of course. And then I'm like, why'd you say of course like that? And then the woman would go like, that's why I asked. Are you talking about it? And I'm like, what's happening here? This is going sideways. And I'd be like, it's fine, we don't need it.

Here, take my tacos. Just get out. Just I want to leave. I'm scared of everybody. I'm going to lose the fight. You women will be fine. But so I was like, I can't put her on an Amtrak because she'll get kicked off.

And a train is like, what is the train? What's a train nine days to? I did even worse, Andrew. So I wasn't worried about the timing. I was quite literally worried about them kicking her off an Amtrak. Because you're just fighting with somebody. Getting an argument where I wouldn't know what really happened. But I would get a call going, I'm in Arizona.

What happened? The fucking guy's a prick. What happened? I already told you. He was a prick. That's what happened. I don't get what's happening. So I found a service where somebody would drive her from Chicago to L.A.

Shut the fuck up. I swear on my life. How long does that take? Four days. Yeah, that's crazy. And I'd have to book the hotels each night and I'd have to rent a car. Oh, God. And there was a guy from here, from Burbank, who would fly to L.A. and then drive her back.

Oh, my God. We did it. Wait a minute. His name was Rick. You're telling me, having someone back in Chicago to help her get an eye. ID was that hard that you're like, we're just going to rent a car to drive. She would never go to the DMV. It's never going to happen.

Yeah, okay. I get it. You're crazy? Yeah, it's so funny. That's the stupidest question I've ever heard. It's impossible. So you're like, Rick is going to go out there. This is just better.

Rick flew to Chicago. Some guy named Rick. Rented a car. We rented him a car. And he drove. I had to meet him at the airport at midnight. All the way to L.A. And stopped in, what are we talking?

Colorado? No, we went south because my. My mother's afraid of the hills. So I created the route. So she went the longest way she could. Yeah, she went the longest way. And it went sideways between her and Rick. What kind of car did you guys rent?

I put her in just a little sedan. This is fascinating. And it went sideways quick. Yeah. I'm going to kill the prick. They're in Missouri. She's freaking the fuck out. Something happened, Andrew, where he crossed a line.

And these are lines I crossed as a kid. And I'm crossing, now that I have her here, I've trapped her here. Right. I'm a prison warden. Well, she doesn't have any control. She doesn't like it here. Too bad.

She doesn't like me anymore. Too bad. Well, unfortunately for her. Sorry, Eve, if you end up watching this on YouTube. This is what she calls it. She puts emphasis on the second half. YouTube. She goes like this.

You know, I like the YouTube. It's the strangest way I've ever heard that. But she and Rick were going and something happened where she said, I have a taste for donuts. Charming thing for a woman to say. It is cute. I'm getting her donuts immediately. Believe me, she had a whole case when she arrived.

And he said, well, there was a Dunkin' Donuts, and my mom's got very particular taste. She doesn't like D-D. You never know, but it's very clear. When she doesn't like something, she's very opinionated. She goes, I'm not getting Dunkin' Donuts. He goes, okay, well, let's get back in the highway, we'll see what happens.

And as they were getting back on the highway, she goes, you know, I might want the donut. and he said, it's too late for the donuts. She said, who the fuck are you to tell? Oh, shit. That's when things went sideways.

Oh, yeah. So did she got the donuts, by the way? They didn't actually. Oh, no. I think Rick would put his fun down. Rick was like, you know what? We're fucking, no. We're driving.

Not getting a fucking glazed. What happened was they just became family. Within four days and he got her here. But I've never seen a man drop somebody off faster. I met him outside. He put her stuff literally on the sidewalk. Didn't walk in older ladies' stuff inside. It was like a pile on the sidewalk.

He didn't get out of the car. He shook my hands and he goes, he's a lovely lady. Gone. You know this is your next movie. I mean, you know this, right? Driving Miss Evie? I mean, truly, this is the next movie.

Yeah. Because it's brilliant. Like, it's a perfect story. Yeah. I'm not kidding. You have to write this. But here would be the catch. Because Gareth wants to do that too.

Gareth is like, we're just writing this movie. It's perfect. And then I said to Gareth pitch on it and it was way more broad and way sillier. But I was like, but the real part of it is it's too older people and it's nasty. It's contentious the entire time. It's not the, that movie, if you go back to the dinosaur, not to the direct audience, you need redemption in the third act. Of course. You need them to learn something.

Right. My mother learned nothing. I mean it. You'd have to write it. You'd have to write her learning moments. But in writing it, for me, and this is what I learned during, in my movie, the movie ends where it has a resolution. I loved my movie. I had that movie for years.

There was no resolution. I don't like stories with resolution. I've been on this earth for 48 years. I don't think I've learned very much. No. I'll go through big adjustments where I'm like, now I get, dude, I'm getting stronger. You're going to see me in a year. I'm going to be 50 pounds fatter.

And you're going to really good right now. Go through a phase, brother. Yeah, but like the audience. I'll be bigger and you'll go like what's going on Big Boy and I'll go like that's fucking pasta brother

I'll go You're in Italian lately Yeah big time And right now you're like I'm done with the business Will you make one of these things That come back that thing hits You go what are you going to go

I don't have time to do the podcast Why? I'm going to Hawaii to make a movie Paramounti Because there's no In my opinion There's no real lessons No there's not

And when people learn them And especially in the podcast It drives me crazy everybody wants to tell you the lessons they've learned. And as they're talking, I'm like, you're not as smart as you think you are. Nobody is. You don't know what you're talking about.

Even the smartest people I've met sometimes, I'm shocked. I'm like, God, that guy's not as smart as I thought he was. It almost fucks your head up. It does. They're like, I really thought you were kind of. And if you're not, who's running this shit? Right. That's what's very scary.

So the no resolution is actually pretty good. I do like the idea of, because Hollywood would have Hollywooded it. They have to Hollywood it. Yeah, they would have made it a great little bow tie at the very end. In fact, he's a black guy, Rick. He drives out there. He's an older guy.

They go through the South. She sees him have trouble in the South. She starts to see his worldview. And I can't, they still treat you like that. They shouldn't treat you like that. They're nothing wrong with you. Right. It's Green Book.

I'll tell you what's wrong with, it's what's wrong with them. Right. Exactly. And when I say them, I don't mean they them. And I just learned about that. And they can do whatever they want. Big laugh, big pop. They go to a coffee shop.

They end up at like a bar down south where somebody says something to him. She stands up for him. while they're drinking. My mom's drinking for the first time to 10 years. The bartender, who is, are they, them, is with them. Right. This rag tag group goes back to their house where they have a house party, and my mom ends up dancing.

Right. 100%. Some executive right now is like, I don't know why these guys don't make this much the movie. And the truth is you're like, yeah, all that. And then you go, all right. And when the movie ends, you do all this work, and I go, it just doesn't feel like a bunch of gorillas on the side of a mountain to make. Because I'll tell you, they don't make adjustments.

They don't really learn anything. No. They do things. They act crazy. But like there was in this thing that I loved There was a gorilla who got isolated from the group That behavior he thought he was the alpha dog He wasn't and he tried to take over

And the man got fucked his ass up They're like, what the fuck you talking about? The guy's like, I'm coming in there like, get the fuck out of here They're not the young Turks, you're not here to take over You think you are Revolution's fucking squashed, you're a clown So he left, he was walking around the side of the mountain He's like, maybe I'll find some other lady, star family

I don't want it his ass he walked so far south Santino he comes across humans shut up there's a whole thing of play it is my favorite part of the movie they're like and then he came too far down the mountain

there's all these people looking at him these farmers and this silverback's like I'm gonna go back he then just starts doing fucking weird stuff trying to like rehash his life

just doing stuff where you're like he's having a midlife crisis should I spoil Yeah. He murders one of the babies in the pack. Not his. No. To try to establish dominance or something?

Who knows? Just a fucking shitty ass move. Wow. And they're all kind of like, ah. They don't kill him. They run them outside. A bunch of the male and the females follow his ass where he has to go all the way outside of the mountain. And I guess when you go far enough away, you never come back.

He's dead. They escort him off. and they go like, one of my favorite lines and the whole thing is they're like, a lone male silverback in the jungle alone is the most unpredictable. And I was like, that's it. Yeah.

You got a wife, you got a little family, you start getting one more predictable, you get a job. You got nothing? You're a taxi driver. Yeah. Travis Biggle, brother. And I'm like, there's no resolution.

There's no big growth. He's out there doing something fucked up on the side of that mountain. The rest of him are going, if he ever comes back, we gotta fucking stomp his ass out. Right. And I'm like, I like those stories,

but those don't get good reviewed. Nobody likes them. They're not happy to see it. I like them. Me too, but it's such a small audience. But we're twisted. But I'm like, but that's a movie when I would watch,

I'd go like, that made me really happy to see. You ever see, you can count on me, the movie? Uh-uh. You'd love it. You can count on me. You can count on me.

It's about a brother and sister. It's really dark. It's really weird. But it's just like, I'm like, oh, that's a great movie. It's because it's fucked up and twisted. It's real. You just kind of go like, eh.

Have you seen it? No. You looked it up? It follows a single mother living in a small Catskill Mountain Town, whose life is disrupted when a struggling way where younger brother returns. Oh, that's great. Just great. Concept already.

Great, great action. Ruffalo and who? Laura Lennie. Young Ruff. Young Ruff and Laura Lennie? 2000. Two for two. Yes.

2000. One of the greatest years, dude. Prince was right. Yeah. But so you're happy, you're healthy, all the good stuff, man. I'm trying to figure it out. Yeah. But you know what?

I don't want to be that lone silverback, so maybe I'll stay with the back. Look at the resolution. Now, that's a third act. That's a third act. Please, please, please, please. The dink comes out. The dink is July 24th on Apple. It's about pickleball, but it's actually really funny.

Sean Clements wrote it. Roger Clements, but with a T is his last name, so Clements. Sean Clements. Do you know him? No. Oh, you would love him. Yeah. He's so funny.

He does Hollywood handbook, the... Oh, yeah, yeah. Super funny dude. He wrote it. It's great. Josh Greenbaum directed it. The movie's genuinely funny. Awesome. Maximum pleasure guaranteed is on Apple Now. Awesome. It's great, dude. And then we're here to help. Check out the podcast. The kid is cruising as usual. I love to see you.

You too, man. We end the show the same way. You look at it at that camera. Say one word or one phrase. Whenever you're ready, it could be powerful. It could be quick. But it's got to come from you. Silverback. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You were that creature in the ginger beard Sturdy and ginger

Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse Ginger's a fugitive You only $5 for the whiskey And $75 for the horse Ginger's, oh hell no This whiskey is excellent Ginger I like gingers

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