Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Joel McHale

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger where laughter flows as smoothly as fine whiskey. Join Andrew Santino as he sits down with the quick-witted and charismatic Joel McHale, a multi-talented entertainer known for his comedy, acting, and hosting prowess. This was a blast. #joelmchale #whiskeyginger #andrewsantino #podcast ===================================== SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS SQUARESPACE Get that site up and running now! 10% off your order https://squarespace.com/whiskey ===================================== Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast/ https://twitter.com/whiskeyginger_ Produced and edited by Joe Faria IG: @itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. It's the first time joining the show. Welcome to the show. Got a good one. Joel McHale. Joel McHale. Man, does this guy do a lot. He is the most worked dude in Hollywood. He's constantly working. He's so funny, so sweet. Such a cool dude. A car enthusiast like myself. Likes to vroom vroom. Very handsome. My God. My God. Leveled me up just a little bit. You know, risingide lifts all ships.

Such a funny dude, Joel McHale. Happy to have him on the show. Go watch his shows. This guy has 50 million shows on the air. And you know what? That's enough rambling. Let's just go to the episode. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.

You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Junior. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean it once again. Today, it's Joel McHale. Joel McHale is on the show. Thank you. Only took a couple years to get the guy on the show. He's a busy, busy man.

Yep, I was very busy, but... You're a busy guy. It's great to be here. And I get it, dude. I'm happy to have you on my show. I have five minutes. Five? Yeah, good.

We'll wrap this up. Great. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. And I did not know you were such a car nut i'm a big car dork yeah i love i do love cars it's probably the only thing i care about even a little bit golf i love golf but it's not like uh um it's not the same no because like i the it's not like the equipment i'm obsessed with like some guys get the new shit all the time. I don't care about that.

I agree. I like to play golf a lot, but I'm not like, have to have the new tech. There's a guy that I'm friends with that will literally every season have new sticks, has gone to a bunch of lessons and went to fittings and all this stuff. Yeah, he sucks. Yeah, of course he sucks. Yeah. When I see those guys on the course

and they've got all the little, they got their outfit on, it's all planned. They got that little towel and they have their new stuff. And you're like, oh, this guy's going to be great. And then they're terrible.

The sloppiest guys I know are the best golfers. I mean that. Like there was a kid yesterday, Fitzsimmons and I played in this charity tournament. And the kid who won the long drive both times closest to like all this stuff was probably six three six four two forty five but no not muscle right this was just body just male body yeah slouchy pouchy pooch over the over the belt and nice kid but i was like you would have never picked him out of a crowd

and been like, that kid is a phenomenal golfer. It just doesn't matter. Well, it's also golf in a weird way because you don't have to be in real shape. You kind of. Yeah, you just heard me say that. I mean, you have to be able to walk.

Yeah, you have to be able to walk. And obviously you have to have the mental thing. The best golfers in the world now are in the best shape though. That's kind of the twist of all this now. Are they? I would say the top ten guys are all athletic, right? Kepka's in great shape, works out every single day.

That's all very true, yeah. Rory works out every single day. Gone are the days of Chi-Chi Rodriguez. Love. And John Daly, dude, ripping a whole pack of darts as you play. He's still playing, still doing it, but I think the difference is the more athletic build you have, the more you work out, the better fine-tune your body is going to be for the stretch. Yes, I would agree.

That being said, no shots fired. ASU alum, Jon Rahm, great guy. Love you so much. Not a phenomenal shape guy. He's not in phenomenal shape, and he's a killer. So maybe 50-50. We'll have to play sometime. Same thing with professional football. Yeah, those

guys are all out of shape. Yeah, when you look at DK Metcalf on the Seahawks, you're like, I can't believe that guy's in the NFL. Yeah, it doesn't deserve to be. No, no, no, no, no. He should be at a checkout line somewhere. Yeah. That's all sarcasm. I have to point it out. Yeah, I forgot you're such a hardcore

12th man. I forgot about that. I forget sometimes your roots because you don't feel like Seattle to me. Is that offensive? What do I feel like? You feel like a Midwest guy. Like someone I grew up with a little bit. Like large?

No, you just feel like a kid from the Midwest that played football. So if I was wearing like a Patagonia, uh, vest, maybe some Birkenstocks. Then I'd say you're up there. Yeah.

Yeah. You don't have the vibe of Seattle. All my friends from the Pacific Northwest, the, um, the Rain Wilsons?

I'm not friends with that guy. Not after what happened with him and I. Okay. We got into a fight. Oh, who won? He did.

Handedly. Oh. Yeah, he knocked out this tooth. Deceptively big. These are two fake teeth. Yeah, it was on Abbott Kinney waiting for a restaurant. Did you get those fixed? Uh-uh.

I got to leave them out just to remind me of what Rain did. Even with the eating and stuff? It's fine. Everything I have is soft food. I can only have soft food for an hour. Did you drink last night? I did not. Do I look like I did?

No. Come on, man. You can tell me if I'm looking bad. No, I was just looking at the... My collection of booze. It's very impressive. Well, we're not drinking right now because it's very early in the morning.

It's early, guys. And believe me, it's... But we're... It's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. And it's early. No, I do...

You know what's so funny? Do you exercise every day? I do. Every other day. Okay. I've changed it now because the road is killing me. Me and Bobby have been on the road for months. And my God, is it impossible to get a schedule going on the road.

Because we wake up in a new city. Yeah. You go get some kind of food that's nearby. Then you're like, I work out sometimes in the hotel, sometimes I work out at the venues. Yeah. I got to say, one of the stagehands said to me, Lars, Lars, Lars from Metallica, Lars? Yeah. I think he was saying how he would do yoga and stretch in the rooms and stuff like that. And I was like, oh, because I was a little embarrassed.

I brought my bands and everything and I was like, I'm going to go just work out in one of the rooms. So I just opened my iPad and I did like a little'm going to go just work out in one of the rooms. So I just opened my iPad, and I did like a little class or whatever. That's awesome. And it felt amazing, and I was like, this is what it would be like to be living on the road in a band,

because those guys do way more cities than we ever could dream, and they have to live on buses, and the stretch is absurd, how many more shows they play. And I thought, how else could you do this other than getting in a hotel and doing it? hotel gyms sometimes suck but i gotta tell you

i kind of preferred working out with bands and yoga by myself in the room something about it was like it was freeing in a weird way where i i didn't feel like i had to whenever i go inside of a gym i feel like i like my brain starts to get all right well what what cycle of things are you going to work on today right whereas this i felt like it was calm time was passing it didn't really matter i wasn't pushing what to do yeah i liked that i was like this is kind of fucking great it was easy on me you know then you did a little cocaine just one bump and then you got to get going said i'm a golden god and leapt on stage. People do think I do cocaine, but I've never done it. I just have a mind and a mouth that works this way.

Yeah, I think you're on it now. You do? No. Have you ever done cocaine? I've never done cocaine. Look at this. Look at us. Yeah.

Probably the only two guys in Hollywood who have never done cocaine. I would agree. Yeah, because every time I've been everywhere, even the least likely people are like, I'm like, you do cocaine? Yeah. I would have never guessed you do cocaine, Rainn Wilson. At the DMV, I asked those folks. Mm. Even the least likely people are like, I'm like, you do cocaine? Yeah. I would have never guessed you do cocaine, Rainn Wilson. At the DMV, I asked those folks. Mm-hmm.

At church, yeah. Did you grow up religious? You guys high? I grew up Catholic. Yeah. I was an altar boy. Oh, no. I'm sorry.

Well, great sex. And yeah, my brothers and I were altar boys and it was, uh, it's like a hometown Catholic church. So I went to school there. Yeah. You were a Catholic school boy. Yeah.

Well, from fifth to eighth. So I went to public school, then to Catholic school, then back to public school. And it was a small town. So everybody knew kind of everybody. Do we say the name of the town or we don't say the name of Mercer Island,

Washington, Mercer Island. Oh, that's really, I know where that is. Yeah. It's right next to Seattle. I've said this before on this show, but someone I've, we've talked about our, our best days. Uh, and I'm going to ask you in a second, cause we had a conversation about it in the car ride. What's one of the best days of your life. And one of mine was, um, uh, I was walking around. Queen Anne was waiting to meet up

with some friends. And I went to a little brewery there and I went into a shop and I grabbed just a little joint, a little pinner to go. From Sean Kemp's. Well, I don't know whose it was. It was like a mom and pop shop. And I wish I knew the name

because I can see it in my mind. And there's a little brewery and I smoked a little pinner and I bought a table of people a beer just because I wanted to sit and have conversation. I said, can you guys around and they were like yeah for sure and we sat and we just chatted and it was they were really nice and kind and then I went down to Alki beach oh you caught a uber all the way to over to Alki yeah Queen Anne I was meeting someone down in Alki okay I was in staying in Queen Anne and uh I I took I took a ride out to Alki Beach

and had one of the best days of my entire life got a little stoned, a little drunk went out on the beach met a bunch of strangers and I literally said as I laid down on a paddle board I was like this is one of the best days of my entire fucking life

everything was perfect the weather was nice, the food was good I was just, everything was perfect. The weather was nice. The food was good. I was just enough stoned and just enough drunk. And the people were so, everyone was pleasant and chill. The guy, the paddleboard I was on was some guy that was like,

you know, you could take it out. And I was like, seriously? He's like, yeah, take it out. Go ahead.

I was like, this is the, one of the best days of my entire life. That's amazing. Shout out to Seattle. Where did you sleep that night? On the beach, on Alki Beach. Yeah, my credit card got declined, and so I couldn't go back to the...

So it wasn't the greatest night of your life. No, day. Greatest day. One of the greatest days of my life. Because the night turned... Give me one of the best days of your life, Joel. Boy, hmm. That is...

One of. It's not like saying, what's your favorite movie? I hate those. Like, you can't do one. All right. What's one day that you... This is going back to the 80s. It was during Expo 86.

I was like 14 or 15, and we went to this place called Granville Island, which is in Vancouver. Been there. There used to be a little just public water park that shot water. You could shoot people with water. And it was just a bunch of, it was me and my brothers and a bunch of young Canadian, uh, Canadians of this relative same age. And, uh, my parents were sitting there eating and drinking off to the side. And then they, I think they just disappeared. And we just played in this water park all day long. And I was like, that was one of the best days of my life. That this is so great.

Let's do this all the time. And I literally, I've been working in Vancouver, gone back to Granville Island, and I found that little spot. It's no longer, it's got all the stuff. Like, you can see it's kind of, the concrete is still there, but they've removed everything. Because, of course, it was probably too dangerous. Some kid got waterboarded. He was held over one of the water spouts and that was the end of that. But yeah, that's, I don't know.

There's a lot of those. Yeah. Isn't that something though, when you go back to the place, I read, I want to say Sam Harris. Oh, and I took cocaine. Oh, good. Okay, good. I was going to say, did you end it with a little rootin' tootin'?

I think Sam Harris or someone, I think that was who said it, but it's not the place that you miss, but it's the time. And whenever I go back to nostalgic places, I do realize, oh, it's the time. It was the moment in time.

It's not the place. It's not Alki Beach. It's not the- Right time it was the moment in time it's not the place like it's not alki beach it's not the right it's the it's that moment in time that really hits you in a in a way that it's because i've gone back to stuff yeah yeah it just kind of even when i just want to go back to see it and feel it yeah i'm never gonna relive it and it still just is like okay this is fine yeah i think about like when i played League, I think about like specific home runs that I hit and I can think about like how it felt when I swung the bat and I'll be like, yeah, that thing that happened where that piece of wood connected with that little ball,

I was like, oh, I'll never forget it. Or those moments when you see your friend get hit in the nuts with something and you're like, I'll remember how hard I laughed like that. Yes. For the rest of my entire life. Yes, yeah. I'll remember when my friend walked up to a statue and simulated having anal sex with it and we took photos. And I'm like, Brad, I'll never forget this.

This is a beautiful moment. Powerful. And yeah, we're so, we're just, we're very lucky we live in a world where we can have those moments. Yes. Because I don't know if you do this thing that I do, I'll be like, because right now there's a lot of Ukrainians fighting for their homeland. And that's where I go back to. Or I'll be like, and then there was that terrible train disaster in India like four days ago. And I'll think about that.

And then I'm like okay even to that the Catholic kicked in yeah yeah well you do have to have some guilt and you're an Irish kid Irish and Norwegian yeah Irish Catholic guilt is strong it is I've gotten rid of most of it but it's still there and sometimes helpful good for you you I'll never get rid of it I'm I'm repulsed by everything i've ever done i hate you even have kind of an irish lilt to your speech yeah i don't even know where that comes from maybe i think it's because uh i don't know my grandparents i have no i have no idea where it comes from but but the guilt is so heavy in my heart for everything like i can even feel my grandfather being like

you should be a little embarrassed what is that You should be embarrassed of how you act. Oh, was he Irish-Irish? Yeah, Irish-Irish. Well, my grandmother. Look at me, dude. I look like a map of Ireland. Yeah, you do. You do.

Have you been? Yeah. I just went again last year. And are they just, I'm assuming they assume, obviously. You know what's funny? I'm assuming they assume, obviously. You know what's funny? Half of the people think you're a Brit because British and Scottish, more redheads than Ireland, oddly enough.

There's so many redheads. When I go to England, they think I'm a local Brit. In fact, they'll come up to you and do that thing where if they've got a question, they assume you're a local. Yeah. Molly won't make, you know? And I'm like, oh, I don't. Piccadilly Circus is where? No problem. They've got a question. They assume you're a local. Yeah. Molly won't make, you know? Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I don't. And they're like.

I don't. Piccadilly Circus is where? No problem. No, thank you. But we went to Kilkenny. And man, did I love. I have such a crush on Ireland. Yeah.

I've never been. Oh, you gotta go. I'm going in a week and a half. Are you really? Yeah. Holy shit. I've been in Northern Ireland, which I found great. Yeah, it's beautiful fast yeah but this first i'm going to dublin and you know drive a little bit and i can't wait to walk into every pub and go i had ancestors from

here and then they can and it's an american guy bartending it's like great man 1496 let's go yeah uh go if you have a chance if you rent a car, I highly recommend, if you have time, are you going to Cliffs of Moher and the western side or anything like that? The western side, yes. So you are going out there. So go from Dublin, Cliffs of Moher and Shannon and all that stuff. And if you have a weird chance to get south of Dublin to Kilkenny, I genuinely couldn't recommend it more.

It's like a two mile road of a town and that's all it is and it's just pubs restaurants little kind of nooks and crannies a beautiful uh castle amazing little churches and some of the best people food and music i've ever had in my entire life where you know you know, Dublin is a thriving city. Yeah. You're going to get Dublin. I call those kind of European cities like anywhere USA because you're like, this is every big city I've ever seen. It feels like it could be Philly, Baltimore.

You know what I mean? It's just got everything. But once you get out. Once you get out, man. And once you go to like Kilkenny, stuff like that, you're like, it feels like it's, you're stuck in time a little bit. You're in a little,

like it's a little time machine. You get to go back. We went to a little pub and the guy was like. Stuck in 1999. Like 86, 87. Okay. The guy was like, you ought to come back

for a song tonight. And I was like, oh, yeah. We're doing Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Relax. Don't do it. Have you seen Weird Science? Have you seen it? We're reenacting it. It's amazing. But he doing Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Relax. Don't do it. Have you seen Weird Science? Have you seen it?

We're reenacting it. It's amazing. But he said, you got to come back for a song. And I said, okay. And sure enough, after dinner, me and the old lady, we went, we were like, should we go to that guy? I mean, I obviously don't owe that guy anything. Right.

And then we did. And I was there till three, four in the morning listening to people sing songs and i was like this is kind of the magic shit that you think you want yeah and it worked out and it yeah it's the only i'm excited for you uh yeah well taking the whole family taking the crew and my brother and his family are coming so it'll be it'll be busy time no work though for joel none good weird You work too much, man. That's not true. That's what they say.

I get a phone call and they go, Mikael works too much. Joel works too much, Mikael. That's what they call you. Who? Yeah, the whole biz. The whole biz? Yeah, Mike Biz.

You know Mike Biz? He's a dick. He's a dickhead. Great, great rapper. I want to say this about you. Generous guy, sweet big feet big feet yeah size 14 and a huge dick do your dick goes in your shoes uh no i have one on my dick on your pelvis yeah i put another i would buy two pairs of shoes and use the third interesting uh i am thank you

but i uh i love i love working you do a great job you tour so much as well yeah i'm trying to do a lot of stuff i'm trying are you okay with you know you have to be a maniac yeah to be in this business you got to be kind of loopy i guess yeah i mean you have to you know be pretty you know uh you gotta work your show that you're on right now. Yes. Are they doing it again? The Animal Control? Animal Control. Or Crime Scene Kitchen premiering? Well, Crime Scene Kitchen is gonna come out on ABC.

Premiered. No, Fox. Fox. Fox. Fox last night. Last night. It's already out right now. Yeah.

Go watch Crime Scene Kitchen. It's where they have the remnants of a dessert and they try to figure out what it is. Yes. That's true, right? That is all true. Yeah, see, I see. See, I pay attention. Some find a dead body.

Do they? Yeah. But animal control, who knows? It's picked up, yes. It is? God bless. Look at this. Yet another season.

I mean, with a strike, who knows when it'll be back, but... You know. Yeah. I think they're going to resolve it sooner than people think I think the whole running joke in Hollywood is like it's gonna last forever and you're like people have said like January 2026

people wanna work I think it's enough people wanna work that they'll go let's do it let's just get this thing over with well now well today as of today SAG might go on strike. Yeah, I got a call from Fran Drescher.

Did you get that phone call? Was it a recording? Yeah, Fran Drescher. No, I never get any of that. It's funny. My number is attached to my Google phone. For people at home, the union will call you and be like, don't forget to vote. And our president now is Fran Drescher.

She's like, hi, Fran Drescher calling. Please vote yes to strike. It's like, hi, Fran Drescher calling. Please vote yes to strike. It's like, it's my favorite. Okay. Okay. I'll see you on Sunday at five. Bye. I save all those, by the way.

I save all those messages. Because you think they're thinking specifically to you? Yeah, it's for me. Hi, Andrew. She does say Andrew. Hi, Andrew. It's Fran. Oh, yeah. I voted yes dude

go ahead do it I don't care whatever I think I don't know what's gonna strike it baby uh yeah that uh

are you are you WG remember no I'm not I was years ago and then I got out when I stopped

doing union writing gigs I was getting small things to punch up on this and do this and do this and it wasn't worth it financially

so I was like I can't be in the guild. You're like, I will go be a very successful stand-up and car owner. I'll just do stand-up and all that other stuff. Yeah, that's pretty smart. Well, because Hollywood is so fickle. Like, I watched this thing with Johnny Depp the other day. You know, Johnny Depp, I'm not saying he's the guy to listen to, but he was like, I don't know if i have room for hollywood

or it has room for me anymore i was like that's pretty interesting because it is kind of like at some point do you want to do it and do they want you anymore is a delicate balance yeah i mean obviously he is in a very unique spot yeah but he but he's still, I mean, for money-wise, he's still such an earner for them. Yeah. I don't know if he has any left, according to that one Rolling Stone article four years ago. Isn't that crazy? How could you lose? What did they say?

It was a couple hundred million? Yeah. How do you lose a couple hundred million dollars? I feel like that was an interesting article, obviously, but it's's like you gotta uh it was there any follow-up to that like does he is he actually broke yeah i wonder i don't know about any of that stuff when they say like yeah i mean we knew mc hammer flew through his money because he had a 100 person entourage and we saw it we physically yeah we're like you can't have that many rolls royces it's gonna be tough you can't at one point i think he took a private jet i heard a story he took a private jet to another private jet like wanted to fly but like didn't decided not to

take the ride you know but took a jet to a jet wow that's impressive that's so funny but that is when you're like watch me someone's Someone's like, you can't blow through. Watch me. Right. And I will do it. Yeah. I mean, if someone said, can you blow $400 million in a year? I would be like, no problem.

Yeah, you can. I can do it in six months if you want. You can. It's absurd. Yeah. Like the Tyson of it all. But yeah, exactly. If we saw it in public, it made sense. But for someone like Johnny Depp, i would have never just assumed yeah i would think with all the pirates of the caribbean stuff that it would you'd be

yeah they would just hand you a machine that makes money yeah and then you just crank that thing and you're like you need here just crank that you're tired of cranking that's all yeah here's a hundred grand go to the grocery store and uh but uh yeah i i don't i feel like yeah johnny no matter almost what he you know there, somebody is going to go see his movies. A lot of people. Everybody. He's tenured. He's like solid gold A-list.

I want to go see his movies. Like if he does a movie now, I want to see it because I'm interested. He's a brilliant actor who was the best looking man in Hollywood yeah he was a what was your favorite depth film uh Edward Scissorhands

such a good it's such a good movie Tim Burton just like a did you ever go to see Tim Burton's exhibit at the uh no

it was so good I went and saw Stanley Kubrick's oh yeah yeah yeah also good uh but yeah that Tim Burton's brain I mean it's just it's uh yeah Edward Sc, yeah. Also good. But yeah, that Tim Burton's brain. I mean, it's just, it's

yeah, Edward Scissorhands, good pick. I would say for Johnny Depp movies or for Burton? Yeah, Johnny Depp movies. Johnny Depp movies. I would say I'm gonna say Gilbert Grape because it was so weird and wild and different.

It was just so like the story was crazy. I mean, Donnie Brasco is also. Oh, so good. Oh my God. Yeah. He's got some bangers in the can, kids.

Imagine, there's young kids that have no idea any of that stuff. They know him as the pirate, you know what I mean? They know him as Jack Sparrow.

Yeah. And if you were like, no, Jack Sparrow, you know, used to have these other things and the kids are like, well, give a shit.

Yeah, I mean, Cry Baby, which with the John Waters film he did. Oh, yeah. One of the first was amazing. Like, so funny. So good, too. I remember John Waters telling, he knew that,

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season the last episode of this season of dave uh this should this little show i do we had bradley pitt on uh and i they get they went shopping for brad and the the wardrobe team was like you're not going to believe this you're're pretty similar size of Brad. And I said, really? It's like almost the same height, almost the same weight. And she was like,

same shirt, same waist, same shoe. And I was like, pretty rad. Everything else is different, but that's that, that those things line up.

And she says, we're going to go shopping for Brad for all this stuff, you know? And it was really nice stuff. Of course. And he wore none of it, you know? Like, I think he might have worn one thing. Yeah.

And then afterwards, I was like, I'm gonna go in his trailer and steal all that shit. Oh. Because it's my size. And they were like, really? I was like, yeah. So I went in there, so I stole Brad Pitt's jeans,

four or five of his shirts. So I got your shit, Brad Pitt. Come see me, baby boy. I got all your stuff. The chances of him actually listening. He listens. He listens. Oh, yeah? He told me, he goes, dude, baby boy. I got all your stuff. The chances of him actually listening to this. He listens. He listens. Oh, yeah?

He told me. He goes, dude, I listen. I could never be on that show, but I listen to it. He did. He goes, and if you have somebody cool on, like Joel McHale, then I'll definitely tune. I'll watch it, and I'll listen to it. You're a wonderful liar. That's what he says.

That's what BP says, baby. You are just so good. That's the BP, not me. I was on this show called Stargirl. Wait for the applause. Yeah. And Breck Basinger, star of the show. Amazing.

But Jeff Johns created it. Thank you. I'm just going to give everyone credit. Luke Wilson. Please. I think it's the Emmys. And my character, they were like, he wants to wear a leather jacket. And there was a selection of jackets. And there was a selection of jackets.

And there was a Tom Ford jacket. And I was like, yeah, that's the best one. And they're like, okay, yeah, well, we've got to get three. Holy shit. Because you need doubles. You have stunt doubles. And then they've got to put holes in one so you can be hoisted up on cables. And I was like, yep, yep.

And so then at the end of the season, because we weren't sure if the show was coming back, because CW canceled all its shows, I was like, so, I mean, what are you guys going to do with them? And they were like, well, if we get another season, will you bring them back? I'm like, yep, absolutely. Yeah.

And then it was canceled. So you got those three jackets, baby. Yeah, they're beautiful. like well if we get another season will you bring them back i'm like yep absolutely yeah and then i was canceled so you got those three jackets baby yeah they're they're beautiful that's so it's i ask every time every time i do something can i take this home and they're like oh it's a whole thing we have to like log it in and then i'm like you're like yeah then okay then i'm gonna do it yeah like have you heard this uh this will make us feel bad because we keep the clothes. Steve McQueen, apparently, I don't know if this is lore or not, but he was an orphan when he was a kid. He grew up in an orphanage for a little while. And I guess when he would do films, he would tell the wardrobe department that he would like to keep the majority of the costumes.

he would tell the wardrobe department that he would like to keep the majority of the costumes. And of course they would give him his own, but then he would ask for extras for others, for like, you know, for if there was background fitting that they wanted everyone in certain clothing or other actors. And they would of course give it to him because he was Steve McQueen

and they were like, he's the fucking shit, who cares? That's cool. And then it got found years later, I think after his passing, I think this was all posthumously found out, that he would give, he would go to these orphanages and drop off all these clothes from set.

He wouldn't keep any of it. He would give it away, hoping that, you know, it would just provide more clothing for people at these orphanages. God bless him. So don't you feel bad, Tom Ford, triple jacket. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, look. What is an orphan gonna do in a Tom Ford jacket?. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look. What is an orphan going to do in a Tom Ford jacket? Orphans out there, if you are a 46, size 46, I would be happy to let you borrow

one of the coats for a night. 46 long for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you gotta give it back. Yeah, you gotta give it back. Fucking A.

I heard that Mel Brooks has kept every, he has like a separate like wing where he has kept every costume he's ever had. Wow. That's what I've heard. And I could be wrong. I know Mel Brooks listens. Yeah, he does.

Mel's a big fan. He texted me letting me, he said he was excited. But we have to slow down our talk because he actually doesn't listen. He puts it in closed captioning. He likes to eat food and he doesn't want to like eat over the. He wants to read it. Yeah. He likes reading the show.

Oh, that's great. 97 years old. You can believe that. He's like, I've been reading your podcast since it came out. Yeah. That's what he says. Mel Brooks. Yeah.

He was, that's amazing. Yeah. And what's his name also? The, you know, he's 101 now. um the producer uh what a terrible person i am wait a minute wait a minute what producer i'll try to help you put this together he made uh you know the happy days uh uh ron howard nope he's 101 years old yeah he made Sanford and Son oh oh oh

yeah the Jeffersons yes yeah yeah I see him Laverne and Shirley god that's so annoying I can see him too

hold on we're gonna get there I promise we're gonna get there I promise we're gonna get there I'm glad you're younger than me and we haven't been drinking no and I we both well no but I've been drinking

for so many years that it has really fogged up the old noodle. Do you think? Well, this is kind of dark, but dementia and Alzheimer's, no, they run in our family, Alzheimer's and dementia. Hey. And there is an attachment for sure to alcohol. No, I don't have a fatty liver.

I don't abuse alcohol. I just enjoy it a lot. Yeah. Like I'm not a guy that when I drink, I'm blacking out every time. No, I'll have a drink here, a drink there, but I drink frequently throughout the week. I'm not like Chrysler goes off. Yeah. And he's got that brain that is pretty, you know, like he's got a Navy seal brain. I mean, you do too. I mean, but his is different. His is like, he, I've been out with that guy. He can drink four in the morning and then go for a literal workout session at 8 a.m. And I mean, not like I went to the gym and I pushed around something.

He'll actually work out. And I mean, run on the treadmill for a couple miles and sweat, do kettlebells. That's impressive. It's kind of annoying. It's a little like like what's going on my dad was able to do that but he never got hangovers neither did my dad my dad always say would say when we'd stay up late and we go back to chicago and go drink with family and hang out all night he'll be up in the morning reading reading the paper just hanging out and my dad doesn't have

coffee either he doesn't even need like something to kick him in the morning he'll drink a bunch of water read the paper that's insane it's dude and he'll always say we'd come downstairs and my sister and i would be hung over stand up all night you know like bonfire in the backyard yeah and he'll be like if you're gonna hoot with the owls you gotta soar with the eagles get your shit together make breakfast and let's go and he like he's so good at like wrapping it up and getting it moving like well i guess we're making breakfast. Yeah, and we would have to, like, get it together. I'm like, how is this magician doing this? My dad, I've never seen my dad not once hungover in my entire life.

There is a thing where some, a very small number of people, that's a thing. They just don't get it. They don't get them. They still can't explain what a hangover is. They can't explain why it makes you feel bad. Because the alcohol leaves your body and people are, like, dehydrated. And you're, like, drinking a glass of water. They can't explain why it makes you feel bad because the alcohol leaves your body and people are like, dehydrated. And you're like,

drinking a glass of water. Doesn't do anything. They still can't explain why people actually feel ill. I get that. There's all sorts of theories. They're like, it's all the sugar.

And it's like, well, then you could make the same argument if you had two Snickers bars before you went to bed. Yeah. So it's still not...

You get it? Yeah, I'll get them. Bad. No. Yeah, if I drink too much, I'll get them. Bad. No. Yeah, if I drink too much, I will definitely have a hangover. But my rule is I have to work out. So in the morning you work out? If I, well, it can't affect work.

It can't affect anything. If I wake up and I'm like, if I have a day like during the pandemic where I was like, oh, are you sick? You know, do I have COVID? Nope. It's a hangover. Then I just feel very guilty. And then I'll probably work at around 12. But then I'll try to go extra, you know, hard. Because eventually by the end of the work,

I'm like, okay, now you're normal. And you're not such a piece of shit. But hey, it's five o'clock. But you're not a piece of shit. No, but I will tell myself like, what's wrong with you? You're a grown man. That's the Irish guilt though. Oh, it kicks in.

Because I know a lot of people that just don't feel bad. They'll ruin their whole day and just be like, what are you going to do? Yeah, no, I wish I had that. You work out every single day of your life? Every day. Never miss a day? If I'm traveling, well, even if I take the 6 a.m. flight to New York, which is my favorite one because the plane has been at the airport overnight and you know it's not going to fuck up unless something is going on with the actual airport, I will get up at 3 and do a workout. Because then when I get on the plane, then I know that when they go like, glass of champagne, I'll be like, I know it's 6 a.m., but yes, I'm not going anywhere for the next five hours.

And then I can- Do you sleep? I'll sleep. I will sleep until they go, we are landing. Wow. Yeah. You don't eat the food on the planes though, do you? Sometimes.

If I am famished, I will totally. I had one bad experience and I almost never eat the food anymore. You got, Oh, I got sick as a fucking dog. And you're sure it was the airplane food. Couldn't have been anything else. I mean, I literally did. You got sick on the plane. No, no, no, no, no, no. I ate the food. I went to bed. I woke up in Boston. I was going to the East coast and, uh, I was like, Jesus Christ. And I was like going to the hotel and I thought, what did I have yesterday? You know? Cause I thought I'm thinking last night's dinner.

Yeah. You know, I call my lady. She's fine. We ate the same. We ate the same dinner, went to bed, woke up, had a cup of coffee, went to the airport. So I didn't have, there was nothing else in me. It could have been. Right.

Then you ate on the plane. Oh my God. And I was in Boston or I think it was Boston or Philly and I went to the hotel and for, I don't know, five,

six hours straight, I was like, I don't think I'm going to perform tonight. Oh yeah, I did it. I did, did, did it baby.

That was one of the first times I remember being on stage thinking, I could shit my pants during the show. Like it's a, there's a 50, 50 shot. I actually have to go,

you guys aren't going to believe this, but I have to run off the stage right now. But I'm such a, again, the Irish Catholic guilt of like, you better fucking go through with the show. Don't bail out. Even though my insides are like, bail out.

We're going to fucking explode. I made it through the show. Immediately went back into the dressing room. Same kind of thing. Just lost it. Yeah, everywhere. And it was like that until like the next morning. And I finally started to level the plane a little bit.

But after that, dude, plane food, I don't know. I get nervous. Even when they say like, it's pasta. I'm like, can pasta make you sick? Anything can make you sick. Yeah, I just, I don't know. Salad. It gets me scared. I just get freaked out about it because I'm like, can pasta make you sick? Anything can make you sick. Yeah, I just, I don't know. Salad. It gets me scared.

I just get freaked out about it because I'm like. Well, for some strange reason, I trust plain food because I'm like, well, this has been sanitized to a level of that, you know, this could make it to Mars and probably still be okay. Yeah, but do you know anybody that's ever worked at the airport? Yeah. When you see the way that they handle the stuff that comes in and out, I don't know, man. Yeah. I kind of tell you. No, I think you're right.

It's just like on one of those carts with 50 other carts that sit in the sun for 20 minutes, and then it ships inside the thing. Yeah. No. Your luggage is as safe to eat as the meals on the airplane. No, I would. Yeah. So I'd rather just have a little whiskey.

What if it's like Alaska Airlines? Yeah. A little whiskey. What if it's like, you know, now like Alaska Airlines. Yeah, they'll have like, here's a package of Doritos and cheese that's been, you know, doesn't have to be refrigerated. The cheese with the chemicals that'll kill me, I'll eat that in a heartbeat. Because I know that the cancer will get me in 30 years, but I won't get sick today. Okay. That's kind of how I feel. And you're okay with the quality of the bourbon? No, no, no, no.

It's hard for me to have a drink on a plane. I know friends that always have a drink on the plane. They're like, refuse to not have one. I'm not a huge fan, so it's a lot of times, it's like just Jack. The guy in front of me was very funny on the way back yesterday from Florida.

He was like, he's like, what kind of bourbon do you have? And I kind of was like listening in and she's like jack daniels it's the whiskey it's the whiskey it's the one that we have and he was like uh okay um all right and then you can hear him kind of like resorting to going i do want to drink but i guess all right and then he goes yeah fine just i'll have a a triple and she's like i can give you two at a time and that's it if you want another one i'll come back and he goes that's fine i'll take a double and then he goes

she goes how would you like it and he goes just give it to me neat and i was i almost wanted to lead over to be like you want to feel the pain like you want a neat jack daniels yeah i was like add some coke yeah dude dude unless jack daniels would like to sponsor. No, they don't. Trust me. They do not want to sponsor us. And Jack Daniels, I've been open about how I feel about it. It sounds like food poisoning. It's terrible. Yeah, Jack Daniels sounds like the meal that I had that day going to Boston.

Is it all still made in Tennessee? Lynchburg. Terrible name. Should change it at this point. I would agree. Lynchburg, Tennessee. I remember Jack Daniels ran a commercial where it was like. Lynchburg terrible name should change it at this point I would agree Lynchburg Tennessee I remember Jack Daniels ran a commercial where it was like Lynchburg lemonade yeah no no they were they were running a commercial of like look at all the people that work here the good old Americans

and it was like you could tell they were like sneaking in the black people and they were like get in the photo get in the photo right They were like purposely showing all these people working. Then they were like, see, it's not just a bunch of white people down here doing their thing in Lynchburg. But they kept saying like the pride of Lynchburg, Tennessee. And I was like, why Lynchburg? We should look this up. I mean, you know why. Yeah.

Yeah. So change the name. What does your assistant say oh what does he say yeah look up lynchburg tennessee look up the etymology of lynchburg he's not even here anymore no he's dude he's he left when you're 23 he's 23 24 he just birthday was four days ago congrats but that's what happens they don't do they're they're they're checked out did you have a mustache when you were 24 you know what's funny i i grew facial hair when i was 15 years old i had a i had like a beard i've had this since i was like 50 14 or 15 i started to get it you got it when you were young i can tell

yeah i was pretty young but i never had i never shaved it into a mustache well no no no he looks like a pervert but that's i think that's the new thing when you're young that you want to look weird they all want to look they don't want to look weird. They all want to look. They don't want to look like I do. We want to look self-confident and like I feel like I'm happy with the way I look. He wants to look like a scummy rat and then girls his age love it. They do. Oh, dude, this guy, every girl we meet is like, he's so cute and funny and sweet. What's the etymology?

And he rolls up the pants like that with the white socks. That's why they love him because he's a babe. What is it? What's the etymology? And he rolls up the pants like that with the white socks? I mean, he looks like shit. That's why they love him, because he's a babe. What is it? What's the etymology? Lydia Lynchburg is named after founder John Lynch. John Lynch. A Quaker described as progressive for his time. A progressive Quaker named Lynch.

He believed in emancipating slaves. He believed in emancipation of slavery. That being said, the etymology of his name, we do know, comes from a very dark place. I will say that one of the last names in my family is Lynch. But you change it to McHale. Good. You took the McHales. Well, no, I think that was on the other side.

No, no, it was on that side. Yeah, yeah. The McHale came through, obviously. Lynch is in your, that's in your lineage. On the, you know, on the Norwegian side, it was Smidgebakken. Smidgebakken, all the good old Smidgebakken. Yeah, they changed that to Jackson. What is a Smidgebakken?

Is that a thing? Do you ever know what that is? I think it's some sort of like fanciful roach. Oh, a little fancy roach. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it would translate to in Norwegian. I have no idea what the- Look up Smidgebakken.

Smidgebakken. Smidgebakken. i want to know what that means what's his name it's macon you want to talk about irish his name is macon corkery damn macon corkery hey macon do people in ireland roll their pants up and wear white socks and nurse's shoes all right but like that look and i'm not i am not being no you are i'm not being abusive like somebody here but let me tell you like so when you see us well i'm much older than you not much i'm 51 i'm 40 11 years is not that we're close well he yeah ask mccorker. He's like that. Corky. Corky's 24. So that look is like the look of a young like when you see that you're like, yeah, that's the look

right now. That's in. It's hipster. It's good. And when you see this, when you see what's going on here, you're like, these are people that stopped trying a long time ago. Do we look like old nerds? You guys look fashionable for your age oh fuck that's what yeah that's what i yeah fashionable for your age think about

he's 24 and you're 40 right yeah which might as well be 60 he's looking at me going i hope this is not the last time i see him alive uh i hope that he just has good genes and can keep going. Do you feel that either of us are trying too hard? Trying the appropriate amount. Appropriate amount. Okay. That's good. And I am paying him so he knows better to answer to delicately.

Listen, Corky, if he fires you over this, I will hire you. Listen, Corky, if he fires you over this, I will hire you. And then like jeans like that and then a shirt that has like, so that's a vintage shirt. Yeah. It's in DeKalb, Illinois. Yeah. Diatone. He loves loose, he loves free clothes.

Like, you know when they give you a free shirt at a sporting event? You love that. This guy would fist fight for that. Is that a McCorker? We call him Corky. That is singular to you, or that is what kids do? They're like, I found this amazing... I mean, because obviously

growing up, people did love vintage shopping and stuff. That's not a shocker. This is new, though. I've always loved older stuff, but it's also a very frugal fashion habit. What he's saying is he doesn't have a lot of money and also it's cool, but it's a cool habit. Cool. I mean,

I like it. I don't like do it. No, but when you walk into a bar or other 24 year olds dress like, yes, yeah, I can say that when we go out, when I see him,

and then they have the sort of must, the winter's bone mustache and hair. And if you see me walk into a bar and I've got this shorter haircut, and I, because I usually wear a pretty tight t-shirt because I want to constantly remind myself that I exercise and everybody,

would you be like, yeah, look at that old guy. He just thinks he's holding on to it. He's just barely, his fingernails are just scraping down the wall of age. He would think, what is Joel McHale doing in this bar that I'm at? That's what he would say. And he would be like, well, I am going to go talk to him. I'm going to put a picture. We're going to put a picture we're gonna put a picture of uh

for people that are seeing in the middle of us right now if I walked in with this rolled up like that and then one roll cause you've got two rolls on one side and one roll on the other

and you just saw me like that would you be like oh that guy's with it a little bit yeah yeah see you'd get some points but otherwise

if I cause I have a 15 and 18 year old if they saw me with this they would be they would go what the fuck are you? See, that's the other side. You can't try to dress cool when you have kids because they're going to shit on you. No, they yeah, they can't.

Like the 18 year old would light you up for that. And honestly, you'd be that would be such a source of comedy for your 18 year old. You can't give them that. They would find it hilarious. If you roll it up, you got have the right socks for it though. Oh my god, taking another shot. What's wrong with those socks? There's a little too much going on.

Isn't it hilarious that your shoes, these shoes, all the range, just have nurse's shoes. Yeah, nurse's shoes. I mean, those are Reeboks from 1985. From when I was a kid. Remade.

These are the on running Swiss. They're supposedly tennis shoes, but these aren't really their tennis, tennis shoes. But it was like, these look like every, like Prada has these. Yeah. They were, they were like, these are 1200 bucks for these nurses shoes. Yep. And nurses don't even wear them. Nurses are all wearing Hocus.

And, all right. So, I find it all fascinating because I am a clothes horse. If you were to come to my home and see how many clothes I have, you'd be like,

you've got a real problem because I keep all the wardrobe as we've already talked about. Yeah. I have, I sold 20 suits. Go sit down right now. Yeah. No, you you're good he's my cute little roamer you but you keep you've kept you've kept everything right here everything you're seeing is something that from a show yeah well this is from yeah this

is this is a gift but uh yeah this from i will take most stuff like that and wear it because i don't want to go shop i don't i don't either i don't want to go shop. I don't either. I don't want to go shop. Where do you go? Where would you go? If somebody goes, we got to get new clothes for the vacation. I don't know where to go. Yeah.

I literally don't have any idea. If somebody was like, you got to go grab a couple of new things. I'd go, I guess I'll call someone. I call a person. To have help me out. Who would help you? If I would call like somebody cool from a company that i know to be like hey will you send me like a stylist or like a if i'm

have like a partnership or like i'm friends with someone at a cool company i like is like will you send me some yeah i would yeah because i don't know i don't i don't really understand how to i never but i've always been this way it's not not like, oh, Hollywood. No, I've never been good. When I was young, never knew where to go to shop. I always like looked at other trends. You just went to a mall. Yeah, but even then, like I was so nervous in the mall because I was like, I don't want someone to see me shopping with my mom at the mall.

Wait, you wouldn't go alone shopping? Well, when I got old enough, then I definitely wouldn't go. When I would go old enough to be able to go shopping alone like 16 or 17 I never went shopping ever what were you wearing? just whatever

fucking five things I got from my mom that Christmas you were not a fashion no I still am not a fashionable guy but I feel like

when I first met you oh no you were wearing like a nice shirt well I guess that I guess that follows that you have collected good things over the years.

Yeah, I'll just take it and keep it. If I can, if someone's like, this is what people like now, I'm like, okay, good. Okay. Because I care about so many other things other than clothes. I can't do it. I don't know what it is. But you're going to scrutinize the, you know, the whatever, how the floor mats hit in the Mercedes or the Porsche. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that has to be.

Those kind of things. I'll go, why does that look like that? This fob here is. Yeah, that shouldn't be that way. This should be a different, definitely. That's exactly, that is precisely true. I want the sports fob right here. Like if I see a car in public, it's, if there's, if I see a car in public that I genuinely don't like, I'll get fixated

on the idea of why I don't like it, like design wise. Everybody loves Hellcats. Everybody loves Hellcats. Scatpacks, Chargers, and I think they are unbearably the ugliest cars I've ever seen in my life.

I loathe the old Chargers, right? Chargers from 40 years ago, I think were some of the sexiest design cars I've ever seen in my life. What do you think of that? I loathe the old chargers, right? Chargers from 40 years ago. Yes. I think we're some of the sexiest design cars I've ever seen. And the new ones look like big, big, beefy plastic missteps. There is a,

there is an old famous, uh, um, sculpture. Ooh. And I can't remember the guy's name. The thinker? No,

no, no, no. It's called David. It's called the, it's called like the fat Porsche or the fat, fat Porsche or fat boy Porsche. And it's called david it's called the it's called like the fat porsche or the fat fat porsche or fat boy porsche and it's literally he used heat um and air pressure to bubble a porsche like bubble a porsche body and it's beautiful it looks incredible and it looks

comical in its nature it looks like a cartoon but it's still the original body uh of a porsche and that to me this like comic version of like ruining, that's what that looks like. Okay. It looks like a big jokey plastic goofball machine. Even though it's a powerful engine, I appreciate the physical handwork of the engine, the car itself. I'm like, why is this a big plastic nightmare? It looks like a big plastic nightmare. What do you think of that Lamborghini SUV?

Yeah. I feel this way about all luxury car SUVs. What are we talking about? Why do I want an SUV? Why did I buy an SUV Lamborghini? I'd buy a Lamborghini if I wanted a Lamborghini. I can't afford one, but if I had one, I definitely wouldn't buy it. Like Ferrari has an SUV now. Aston Martin has an SUV now. Yeah. Cause they saw what porsche did right it was genius but porsche also made it look like a street suv it looked like kind of it was it's a good design yes the both of them and so it's very simple in its execution i like the porsche one when it's all tricked out to look like they're in the baja 1000 yeah that's cool those are that is very cool yeah i agree like with the lamborghini i mistake it for the acura yeah oh it kind of does look like yeah i'm always like oh that's oh that's no that's

that one costs four hundred thousand dollars more yeah my neighbor has one which blows my mind because in the driveway is like a prius and a camry and then a lambhini. You don't hear that too much. Dude, it's so weird. And every time we pass him when we're walking the dog, I'm always like, what is that guy's thought process? And it's not an extravagant large house. It's a very humble home. And he has a, what are they, 500 grand?

I think they're, I think they're, the bottom line would be 250. I think the highest end is 400K. Yeah. Yeah. I think that the highest end. And I feel like I instantly saw them everywhere. Yeah. They're all over the place.

Yeah. Well, because people are doing that thing. This is what happens with American culture. We're the best at it where they're like, I can't afford it, but I'm willing to pay three grand a month for something that I can't afford, but people will do it. Yeah. People don't care. People will operate in debt forever.

God bless, dude. What's the worst debt you've ever been in when you were struggling, when you were on your way up? I never had a ton of debt. You were never a fool? No, because in college, I lived at home. Huh.

I lived on campus. I mean, I grew up in Seattle, and I went to the University of Washington. Huskies. Yeah. Let's go Huskies. Go Huskies. And the whole time

you were going to college Penix is our quarterback for the first two months I lived in the fraternity and I hated it so much can I guess sure

Sig Kai no Sig Ap no I only know like three of them okay no Sigma in there

no you were a this is this is a weird game show hold on I'm gonna get it dude I can feel it I can feel it in my

is there a delta in there no gamma phi beta gamma phi beta no that's a sorority oh it is yeah

I have no idea the only one the only I only know a handful I only know the ones that I saw. Only the parties that I stumbled into would I know. Right. What was the one you were in? Theta Chi. Theta Chi.

I just said it. Theta Chi. You're not guessing. Proud of it? Of the way you're saying it? Yeah, Theta Chi. Well, you're saying it right, but it seems like you did not. Sounds like I guessed Joel McHale's fraternity. I told you what it was. Theta Chi. And then you said it like you guessed it. Pretty good guess, Andrew. Thank you. Wasn't a guess. It was a guess. I guessed it right on but it seems like you did not. Sounds like I guessed Joel McHale's fraternity. I told you what it was, and then you said it like you guessed it. Pretty good guess, Andrew. Thank you.

It was a guess. I guessed it right on the nose. Corky, I'm sorry for your boss. Cork? Theta Chi. Theta Chi, which has been thrown off campus. Is there a slogan? Theroposachaire. Theroposachaire. I think. Yeah. I don't know what that means.

Don't look at me. I have no idea. I only partied at fraternities. I couldn't get in. No, I hated it. I hated all the guys. I didn't know what that means I have no idea I only partied at fraternities I hated it I hated all the guys I didn't like I mean I actually know one of them I knew beforehand and there was a handful of good guys but it was just I was like oh this is just a breeding ground for racism

alcoholism and you know sexism and sex abuse I was like this is i gotta this is why they're like we're all brothers i'm like what are we but what's uh what are we uniting around uh and so i got out yeah and then i just lived at home and i did yeah i was it was it worked out great my mom worked at the university so we would commute each morning. Together? Yeah. That's the cutest shit I've ever heard.

Yeah, I would drive. And strangely, my mom is, at that time, I was a pretty aggressive driver and like was always slightly road ragey. And she was kind of the same way. So it was a great bonding. So was my mom. We're that way. Yeah.

My dad's the opposite. I have kind of been able to become more reasonable as my cars got more expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I should probably not engage in this. When people challenge me to race, I'm like, what the fuck? Why would I? Well, fuck you. Yeah.

But when you're young, you're doing it. Oh, yeah. You're like, what did your mom do at the school? She worked in, well, she had been a newspaper editor, and then she worked, she ran the PR department for the University of Washington Hospital. Oh, wow. Yeah. She is no dummy. She's a bad bitch.

She knew her stuff. And anyway, that was a long way to say that I did not like being in a fraternity. a long way to say that uh i did not like being in a fraternity i would go in the sororities and i was like oh this is where i want to live here not because it was girls but because it was like it was so clean yeah they had clean food yeah it seemed so nice it didn't smell like uh like a shelter right and uh it's so yeah but my friendy, I'm friends with him today. Shout out to Rhodey. Rhodey Gadara. Rhodey, wherever you are. Wonderful man.

Lives in Bellevue. I know Bellevue, great place. It's really come up. Google, right? No. No, Redmond. That's Microsoft. Microsoft.

Yeah. Sorry. My college girlfriend was Redmond. She went to Redmond? She was, no, no, no. She's born and raised there. But she went to Redmond High School or there's a couple?

I don't know actually. I don't know what high school she went to. Threw a knife at me. That's when we broke up. Seattle. What kind of knife? That sounds pretty

Northwest-y to me. She threw a, it was like a dull kitchen knife. Didn't hit, by the way. Bad aim. Missed by like four feet. How long ago did she,

did you break up with her? This was college, this was 20 years ago. Oh, okay. It was a long, long time ago. But it was a good throw, I'm not going to lie. It's just bad aim. Good throw, because end over end. I thought, man, if it gets to the right end,

she's going right through my chest. I think, you know, there's a, everyone thinks that the Northwest is a kind of bookish, you know, androgynous sort of like, but there's a, you know, a lot of violence and serial killing. Yeah. Yeah, the woods, man. Anywhere there's a lot of

wooded area, scary shit goes down in the woods. Yeah. I don't know if you know this or care or who cares, but I do want to tell you this is pretty the odd connection. Our song for Bobby and I's show, The Bad Friends Show, people have called this out. But in it, it says, you two are bad friends.

And over the years, people have finally found out it's actually from Community, an episode of Community. Oh. I had the potential to watch Blade. You two are bad friends. Bad. Alison Brie? Yeah. Alison Brie? Yeah. Alison Brie, is that who said it, right?

She played Annie. Alison Brie, I think, was pointing at Danny Pudi and someone else. Was it Donald and Danny? Were in the room together. And Alison walks in. I don't know them. Yeah. Yes, you do.

Very well. You worked with them for a very long time. Alison Brie walks in with, I want to say. Gillillian gillian i think she was in the scene with her but she points at them and she says you two are bad friends and that's the intro for bad friends show and to this day i've told bobby i hope we don't get sued by nbc Did you tell Allison about it? For using that clip. No, I've, I don't, you know, I've only met her once through Franco. Right. At a friend's party. Very, very wonderful people, by the way.

Yes. Extremely nice. You're probably the worst person from that show. I would agree. Yeah. But it's funny that I think of, because every time I think about it, I think, we have fans that know it or that dig and think about it. I'll take that.

And it's kind of beautiful because our fans like are obsessed with that show. And so when people find out it's from Community, they get like, the cult thing that happened from that show, you kind of only get once in your career. Twice if you're very lucky. Yeah, I know. I agree. It's wild. At the time, it was not, you wouldn't it's not part of the story. But, you know, it's like at the time we were constantly almost canceled and then were so it's like a rest of development. It's the same thing. Yeah. And then the groundswell of support, you know, trickle. It's like, you know, just a slowly rising river and uh and then um you know the streamers really changed everything over the pandemic and people started watching it so wild how it got so much

more famous in the last four years than it ever really did believe like that literally we would get to the end of our we do our episodes and then they'd be like can this last one be the season and series finale and which was a great vote of confidence yeah uh and then yeah but it was one of those we all as we sat around doing it we're like we know i know this is we i know this is good what we're doing yeah this is a funny thing we're doing it was and uh or is usually i'll be the first to go like oh crap let's get it let's just milk this until it's over uh but this this was i was like every time we'd read the script so i'd be like this is a gift this is a this is a christmas gift it was very good it was very a solid show genuinely like very good and every time i saw it i was like this is just a great

collection of talented people uh it's it It's interesting that when it happens that way, you're like, man, this is a lot of talented people on one show. Sometimes you get a couple of people that really are moving the machine and then, you know, not to offend, but just sometimes it's never that consistent. Because I don't want to harp on

that show too much, I don't want to give you too much praise. I want to go down. Let's talk about some of the shows I've been on. Crap ones. Give me the crappiest one that you too much. I don't want to, I don't want to give you too much praise. You don't want to make my ego even bigger? I want to go down. Great. Okay. Let's talk about some of the shows I've been on that have been canceled. Crap ones. Give me the crappiest one that you ever did.

What's the crappiest show that you felt like you were like, this is not even, I'm not doing a good job. The show's not that good. Oh. What's the biggest pile of shit you ever took? Um,

it's a good question. I can name it because I have them lined up. I texted myself. Oh, please. Yeah. No. Oh, i'm trying to think of of things that i've been in that i have i have been in things where i'm like i don't know if i was any good in that i'm just gonna uh i knew i did a movie with robin williams called uh merry friggin christmas or and it it was this incredible cast and uh I and freaking

Robin Williams yeah I mean and uh and that was the greatest gift of the whole thing is that I got to know him and uh but it was not a great movie and it tanked yeah it tanked uh it's gotten a strange little bit of life but uh but it was it just all yeah it was it was a great cast and i was like i didn't feel great in it uh i mean i think it was okay uh robin williams of course brought it every fucking moment yeah because he's robin williams and uh and the other people in it were like, so I was, yeah, that's when I'm like, yeah, but I don't know. Yeah. Do you think it was because you did poorly or it just wasn't written that well?

Boy, that's a good question. Some, I think sometimes it's like baking a fucking cake, uh, where it's like, uh, it just didn't happen. And, uh, yeah, I really wanted it to uh but uh yeah you know that was one of those ones where i'm like well you know can't win a mole did you ever have a thought because i some people have these some people don't when it was done and it was all over and it didn't do well do you ever have that looming fear that you're like is this gonna really fucking hurt my career like is this gonna put a dent on my career yeah no i've thought stuff about like well this is a big swing i'm the

lead in this movie and it didn't it just didn't really well robin also died uh which was which was your fault oh thank you we've all said that i've gotten text messages that you know he would agree i'm a murderer that's mikhail's uh but he yeah no so that obviously put a paw on the thing and uh but you haven't had a lot of hiccups man you've worked so consistently for a long long time so it's just like no i am i am i i would absolutely agree i am b minus level all the way i am i am a consistent yeah no you're great no you're wonderful man You're very talented and so dedicated and committed to making good stuff and trying a lot of different things that I think you, I've never seen a hiccup where I'm like,

oof, man, this guy really is shit in the bed. Just you wait. Yeah, you're on your way. I will. I will. Really fuck one of these up. No, but it's interesting because a lot of actors i don't believe you but no they i'm serious you a lot of people get that fear where it's like they

make a thing that might bomb and then they're like i don't know if i'm ever gonna work again i watched the documentary the other night about katherine hepburn and it was just this like looming constant thing they spoke about where she was like she made a lot of bad shit like she had about five years of just crappy movies I mean not crappy they were a trope like poorly written poorly acted she would do accents in some of them where it was like what the fuck is that it was like really bad and she even she her confidence which is probably part of her success, she couldn't have given a, it like didn't even matter to her. It was like, God, she doesn't even, she knows it tanked, didn't care, was like, well, whatever. She was, they're like, well, you're broke now.

I mean, you don't have any more money. Because back then also, it's like anybody in that world, they would like take the money and then throw it away. They're like, come on, give me the money. I'll buy another house, buy a boat, you know? Yeah. And they didn't have, there was no world of like saving take the money and then throw it away like come on yeah give me give me the money i'll buy another house buy a boat you know yeah and they didn't have there was no world of like saving for the future so she would tank a bunch of stuff and then finally things started to hit but she would just go back to broadway or go back to theater and figure it out but her you know i guess like her kind of flippantness about it was impressive that she was like whatever huh fucking i mean that's pretty, yeah.

Because today you're like, is this an end of time for me? I feel like though that back then, there wasn't as many outlets to be on. I was like, well, you're the, I mean, and it's still to this day. I mean, when people are like, we are investing in you as going to be the, and obviously a lot of the time the movie star gets blamed, which they shouldn't a lot of the time because it can get fucked up in other ways. But yeah, so I think there are those stakes somewhat still. Obviously, I don't know, but fuck it. But I just, I'm always like a shot, like a sawed-off shotgun blast approach. And I was like, just do everything.

And something maybe will work. But if not, I'm always like, I don't have to have a real job. This is insane that I can still go. People are like, are you sure you want to be on that game show? I was like, fuck, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Why not? It's fun.

It's good times. And yeah, yeah, absolutely. Why not? It's fun. It's good times. And yeah, I love it. So, I mean, now those game shows are all, now that The Rock and Jamie Foxx and fucking everybody hosts, it all changed everything. But yeah, I just always, I'm always like, yeah, let's say yes.

Say yes. Unless it's like ritual murder. Then say yes if they have an out plan if they have an exit plan yeah no if they're like dude we know how to get away with this murder you're like all right i'll do it i don't know i feel like when you start opening up that circle okay dude just kill someone already with me i want to thank you for being if it's just two people maybe it's just us we're gonna go do it right now have you readpiracy, about the takedown of Gawker? No.

It's pretty great. Is it? Yeah, they're doing now, I think one of the news channels is taking that book and has turned it into a series. But it is fascinating. What is it? The takedown of, what is it? You remember Gawker?

Yeah. And Gawker was famous for putting anything up. Yeah. And Gawker was famous for putting anything up. Yeah. And Peter Thiel, he basically was outed by Gawker. And then he was like, I'm going to take them down. But he did it in secret. Oh, that's smooth. But they talk about conspiracies in the first, like how you keep something secret. Yeah. This is like a person of one keeping a secret is perfect right anybody knows no one knows except for the person who knows

when you get to two you're still pretty good and that's not then when you get to three it's over it's going to get out yeah three is over and that's why yeah that's why when people like well the earth is flat, I'm like, who's keeping the fucking secret? Because, yeah. I mean, because as you know, I'm like, even in, you know, think about all the wars

where people are like, if you get off this boat, don't say fucking anything to anyone about where we're going. Yeah. Because they all, everybody finds out. And the earth is flat.

We do know that for a fact. Okay. I just was on a flight the other day. God, it felt pretty flat to me, dude. Look out the window. It looked pretty flat to me. See, this, it felt pretty flat to me, dude. Look out the window. Look pretty flat to me. See, this is why. Pretty flat to me, bud.

Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming on the show. I really appreciate you. You've always been really nice. Yep. Really cool. Thank you. And your hair is.

Throw in funny. Will you throw in funny? Your hair is amazing. It's very red. You've got really good muscle tone. Thank you. Ditto. Just say funny. I hair is amazing. It's very red. You've got a really good muscle tone. Thank you. Ditto. Just say funny. I love the shoes.

Just say funny once. Black jeans are really cool. Please say funny. These are charcoal. You're a very good actor. Please say funny. I'm begging you at this point. You'll give me a bottle of whiskey, right? I will do. And you're fine. Sorry? You're fine. Sorry?

You're fine. Oh, man. Really squeezed it out. Joe McHale. You are. No, no, no. Don't do it now, dude. Remember that corporate gig we did?

Oh, my God. Before you go. That was... I've talked about it on... I've talked about it on Bad Friends, I think. But I've marked this as the worst corporate gig I've ever done in my

entire life and i'll do the quickest synopsis but it was crazy me you gary veder uh alonzo boden and i feel like there's one more we got paid by this is great there's a great quick story we got paid by jim beam jim beam of course. Thank you, Jim. Was recently acquired at that time by Centauri Whiskey, a Japanese whiskey company. Now, I wasn't really privy to this. So I thought it was going to be a bunch of good old boys, like good old boys, like Kentucky good old boys. Yeah. And we got a check. We were in the back.

We were having dinner and drinks. And I remember walking up to you and being like, hey, man. And you're like hey man and you looked exhausted and i was like is everything okay and you had already been there for two days yeah i was there just one night doing it i'd also gone out that night so i was you would just look like you were like super bummed and uh i said to veder i was like what's the deal with mikhail man what's that all about and he's like i don't know maybe just fucking tired of hosting and he's like exhausted it has to be like a master of ceremonies all night and i remember thinking i could kill this this is easy man this ain't shit like i do we do this all

the time i got out there and it was like 500 japanese men in business suits eating at round tables like eating dinner yeah they were all eating while we were doing joke and i ate such a bag of shit i mean it was like i've never bombed i i was sweating 15 minutes like pouring sweat through 15 minutes and uh the guy also had said no cussing no dirtiness right clean everything had to be clean i don't know if you remember this but i was in the back with bode i mean with gary veder and alonzo was about to go on and uh they were like don't cuss no dirtiness no foul language you know no sex stuff they wanted it pretty clean and it's vegas by the way and after bombing veder and I were like just sitting there kind of just contemplating life. He did good. And Alonzo gets up and he says to this quiet room, he's like, y'all ever seen an N-word this big

before? And they loved it. And I was like, all we needed to do was say the N-word, Gary, and they would have loved us. And he crushed. and alonzo destroyed i mean obviously he's a phenomenal comic anyway but but he broke this weird tension of like it was just kind of the reception was supple it was like fluffy and light and nothing was nobody was really like this is like losing and having a good time you probably did great i didn't even see yours i was in the back i I did fine. I was also mostly hosting. Crumbling.

So I was just kind of hosting in between. I was crumbling, dude. It hurt so much to get off stage because I'd never bonded a corporate like that. That was unique. That'll stick with me for the rest of my life. And that's part of my memory with you. Yeah. I mean, so when you see me, it must be.

I think about you. When I see you, I think about Vegas, Jim Beam, some tour. No, I remember. But it's always funny because you're like now, you know, when things go well, you're like, great. But then you remember the. That was so hard for me. You remember when you're breaking. And I have bombed and I was like, oh, yeah.

It hurts. I'll never forget that. That will be. You know, what's your worst bomb story before you go? Do you have like a. Yeah, I did. I'll never forget that. That will be indelible. Do you know, what's your worst bomb story before you go? Do you have like one of these? I did, it was at the

Anaheim Spectrum or whatever. It's a big, it was a big venue. It's huge. It was for Power 106. Yeah. And it was a big line of comics. Which is a hip hop station

out here in Los Angeles. And Carlos Mencia was the closer. Oh yeah. And I was going on second to last. Who else was on? Do you remember? I do not remember.

Damn. I was the only white guy on there. Yeah, I was just going to say, you had to be on a Power 106 show. Yeah, they were— Pretty poorly cast, by the way. Not happy to see me when I walked out. No, no way. It was screaming and yelling, and there was nothing I could do.

And in those situations, sometimes I get this weird, it's either it, the, I get the, the fight of fight or flight kicks in. And so I turned the clock around and showed them how much time I had. That's funny. And I was like, I'm not leaving. And. It still didn't work. Yeah.

Some, yeah, there were just fuck, hate. I'm not leaving and it still didn't work yeah some yeah they were just fuck hate and it was the one of the only times I walk off stage

and I everyone has these wide-eyed looks on their faces and I'm like oh and then the

the promoter was like you need to get out of here he's like here's a check go home yeah he's like get out as fast as you can because someone's gonna kill you

was Big Boy hosting it was it his because big boy used to do like a big he that he i he did not host maybe he did host it but i didn't meet him because they used to do big comedy shows for that and i remember huge yeah when i first moved to la i was like man they'd be so cool to be on one of those things and it was all big name comics and you know they would sell a fuckload of tickets and I was like, that's gotta be the coolest thing in the world. Not for Joel McHale.

Not that time. Oof. I drove out because Carlos Mencia went on and so they were like, get out now while no one's... Yeah, while you still can. See if anyone's waiting for you. Yeah, you're leaving on the 7th.

Yeah, that was... I ate shit. You gotta get out. Sometimes it's gotta happen. It makes you a stronger human being. It does. It makes you go like, right,

you can, you can really lose the game bad. That was bad. That's a blowout. Ladies and gentlemen at home, please watch, please, please,

please watch the, hopefully the next season when it comes back, right? Yeah, Animal Control. Animal Control.

And watch Crime Scene Kitchen now. And watch Crime Scene Kitchen right now on Fox. It's available. Yeah, House of Villains in the fall. House of Villains is going to be coming up in the fall. That'll be on E of all places. On E. Yeah.

Your lifelong buds over at E. Just can't break. Just can't break up. Just, yes. That's your ex you keep going back to. Codependent. Well, it's a comfy bed. Yeah.

It's a nice comfy bed over there. I mean, other one they canceled to sue. Yeah. But hey. It's fine. Here we are. It's fine. We move forward.

Yeah. We end the show the same way. You look into that camera right there. You say one word or one phrase. Yeah. One word or one phrase to end the episode. Used to be a word. Some people wanted a phrase.

So one word or one phrase to end the episode whenever you're ready. I don't know what does make me think of this, but Ditka. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Gingers are hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.