Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino - Josh Richards

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Andrew Santino sits down with Josh Richards — creator, comedian, and entrepreneur — for a wild talk that bounces between fame, failure, and figuring out what actually matters when millions of people are watching. They get into TikTok fame, business moves, podcast drama, dating in the spotlight, and why Josh’s journey from small-town Ontario to Hollywood mogul makes zero sense (in the best way). 📱 Follow Josh Richards: https://www.instagram.com/joshrichards 💼 Check out his projects & ventures: https://www.joshrichards.ca In this episode: • How Josh flipped social-media fame into real business success • Andrew & Josh talk the dark side of virality and staying sane online • Behind the scenes of BFFs with Dave Portnoy & Bri Chickenfry • Why fame in your 20s is nothing like people think • Plenty of chaos, honesty, and laughs — Santino-style 💬 Drop a comment – The craziest social-media moment you’ve ever seen? #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #JoshRichards #ComedyPodcast #Influencer #TikTok #Entrepreneur #PodcastClips #Comedians ========================================================== Sponsor Whiskey Ginger: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/whiskeyginger SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS HIMS 100% ONLINE TREATMENT ⁠https://hims.com/whiskey⁠ KACHAVA USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY GET 15% OFF YOUR ORDER https://kachava.com MARS MEN USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY ⁠https://mengotomars.com ======================================================== Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast https://twitter.com/whiskeygingerpodcast Produced and edited by Joe Faria https://www.instagram.com/itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What I'm Whiskey Ginger fans. Welcome back to the show. It's your first time joining the show. Welcome to the show. We got a good one for you today. Like my man, Steve Harvey Duncee. Do me a favor. Leave a comment down below for the Al Go Rhythm. Next year is a big year for the Whiskey Ginger. We're expanding. Hopefully we're getting bigger and better guests. Comment down below who you want to see on the show. Also, I'm running around the country. Come see me. Andrew Santino.com for those tickets. I'm in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, Bethlehem, PA, Hanover, Maryland, Borgata, Atlantic City, New Jersey. Then I'm at Valley Center, which is basically down by San Diego at the Harris. Then I'm in Canyonville, Oregon, Las Vegas, and then the Little Roadie Fest in Providence, Rhode Island.

And also we're going to putting up the tickets for Netflix as a joke with me and Bobby Lee coming up soon. Go to Andrewsantino.com for those tickets, Andrewsantino.com. In here, we pour whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You were that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginger's a fugitive. You want me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse.

Ginger's, oh, hell now. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers. Ladies gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. Say that for a girl. My guess what I mean once again today, it's Josh Richards.

Probably, probably the most handsome guy we've ever had on this show. Is that true, you think, McCone? I don't know. I saw you had Tommy Smokes on recently. He's okay. he's okay but you that's my little bro right there i know but you skier you know what i mean it's between him and todd berry todd barry we just had on yeah he's a handsome male model do you know who that guy is i don't think i'm a picture of this guy i mean this guy is you want to talk about just a good

looking fellow good cheekbones he's got he's slender can make you swing both ways kind of unbelievable wow you could shift for this guy give up give him a photo of this guy so you can see i mean wow that's a i mean you and him are pretty that's somebody that makes you jealous of the gays for sure exactly right you just want to be you want to be you want to be you And he's not even. He's straight. Wow. I know. He could do whatever he wants. He could. He could.

Dude, good to see you. Thank you for coming on the show. Last time I saw you, we were in Southern Missouri at the Internet Invitational. Yes. Prior to that, we linked for the first time. It was a dinner. In New York. Yes. Yeah, where were we again?

We were at... It was some... It was like a side room. Like a carbone... Oh, it was carbone's like side little room that someone had set up. And it was so funny when we went there, I was like, who's going to this little dinner party? because we were like there for a golf outing and he was like oh a bunch of people are going to be coming

and then we walked in the room and it was like a tiny little room I was like how many people are going to be in it? And at the time because I think we were some of the first people to get there there were three of us there were three or four of us in this like three would have been fine for me

it would have been a good intimate event it got a little bit larger little claustrophobic I get claustrophobic do you get claustrophobic? You're too young to feel like yeah I don't know if I'm there yet I'm starting to get the social anxiety

or my social battery I've realized recently is is needs more charged than before yeah so are you do you do this thing now where you're gaping your schedule so you're not layering it so much so you have time to just like chill or are you just packing it all in i've i've been packing it all in uh as of recently uh but i think that's that's one of the 2026 goals and i think my girl definitely she pushes that on me too she is she is the complete opposite of me i am the guy that like we'll go all out to dinner with friends and i'm the worst guy at the table that's going to start talking about work you know what i mean Like, I'm, like, a work guy 24-7, and my, my girl's a complete opposite.

Gabby, thank God. She's, like, all that matters is friends and memories and having good times. Smart. I'm much more of the, like, we got to have everything. We got to make sure we're good for retirement. We got to make sure our kids are, like, you know, I'm thinking that way, and she's thinking more of that. Let's just, like, have fun and hang out.

I'm on her side. Yeah. I mean, I think, is she your same age, younger, older? She's a little younger than me. She's 21. 21. You're 23. Yes.

Isn't that cool? He's 26, and he's an old man. This is what happens. He started working for me three years ago. How many years ago? And he's weathered terribly. It's kind of like a presidency campaign, eh? It is, dude. He's going to go gray. He'll lose all his hair and or go gray by the end of this term. You'll have to start getting like a spray tan by the end of this.

No, he can't. Dude, he's from Minnesota. He can't. He's not allowed. He's too pale. Irish kids aren't allowed. They're not allowed to have spray tans. Can't do that. You're Canadian. I always forget that you're Canadian. So I hear you say out. Out or like tomorrow? Tomorrow? Tomorrow? Yeah, tomorrow. Yeah, that one will come out every once in a while. But Toronto, Canada? Where? Yeah, so I'm East Coast.

So I'm an hour and a half east of Toronto, a small town called Coburt. Cobert. Covert. Paulevo, Franca? A petit per. Oh, yeah, I don't do it. But that's nice. See, you're even hotter when you do that, dude. That's so funny.

God, don't turn me on, dude. It's midday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the middle of the week. Don't do that to me. We'll take it slow. We'll take it slow. I don't want to get you half chubbed at 12 of the day.

I already am. When you walked in, dude, your publisher's like, hello. We're full-mast almost now? Huh? That means we're getting a full mass. I'm full. The flag is up, my friend. The jeans have gotten tighter, I've noticed.

Significantly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's because I'm getting fatter. That's really what this is. You think? I'm in my, good, dude. I'm in my winter stage.

Well, bulking season. I'm bulking right now. That's the right way of it. I'm prepping for the holidays, dude. And I can't, are you a Thanksgiving food guy or no? I love Thanksgiving food, but here's the thing. We've already had Thanksgiving in Canada. Oh, yeah.

That's right. You guys already did it. Ours past. So do you don't do it here? I'll celebrate here. But I think, you know, I always try to go home for the Canadian Thanksgiving. We do, I mean, we do the exact same dinner on Christmas as well. I feel like I don't understand the craze for Thanksgiving as much as I get the craze for Christmas.

Yes. I get the same meal, turkey, ham, you get it all. The standard. Yeah, but I have a controversial. I have a hot take. I mean, he knows this about me. I'm not a Thanksgiving food guy. Love to get together with family and friends.

Turkey and I aren't friends. You're not a turkey guy. I don't understand it. It's a dry bird. and people are like, well, what if I've had the deep fried, I've had the juicy, even when it's, it's still not, I want red meat. Right. So you can do prime rib though. We do, my whole family.

That's what we do. My family's decided collectively that we don't like it. Why is my mom wasting her time cooking it? Why is my sister trying to help? Such a long torturous process, dude. It's no need. Oh, it's brutal. I'm anti-turkey.

And I think, go find out, I think that the whole turkey thing was implemented by the government years ago to try to sell more turkeys because, turkey stock was down. It's like a Valentine's Day card situation. Exactly. Or Santa, tooth fairy. It's all made up. Nothing's real. That's how I feel about it, because every time I have it, I'm always like, this is not

as good as I thought it was. The next day turkey, now next day turkey sandwich, that's good. It's probably one of my favorite parts of Thanksgiving is the next day's meal. See, that's my thing. So how about this? Just give me tomorrow's turkey. I don't need to eat it today. Just make it a day ahead, maybe.

That's exactly right. Maybe we should start prepping it, day ahead. Give me the toast with just, I want. turkey stuffing, cranberry sauce, mashed potato, gravy, all in one sandwich? Yeah. How about a turkey burrito? You ever do that? No. Yeah, this is a new thing I'm trying to start. Southern California, dude, burrito's got me going. Now I think, why don't we wrap up turkey, tater's taters? Here's my thing. Cold turkey, tater tots, hot, cranberry sauce. Cold or hot. Cranberry sauce? Yeah. Because I've had people do both ways.

I've only actually had it warm, but maybe I should do a cold, like a salsa. Right for the sandwich. So people at home, try this out this year. Comment below about the turkey your turkey next day turkey Thanksgiving wrap. What is the deal with the turkey? A lot of it was practicality because it was really cheap for the time that Thanksgiving became popular and especially to feed

a lot of people. But are they still cheap? I feel like I don't think they are. They're also just abundant. There's so many. There's a lot of turkeys. And why is that? It's a prerical thing. Nobody wants to eat them. See? This is the whole point I'm making. They've shoehorned us into thinking this is like lobster. You know the history of like I mean, lobster was like, it was like peasant food at one point. They used to serve it to prisoners in New England.

And caviar, too. Caviar, too. That was crap food. And now they've suckered us into thinking that it's good. Oh, this is some beautiful thing to be eating. It's coming out of the fish's vagina. Yeah, no thanks, dude. I don't want that.

A vagina's vagina's vagina? I'm not into it. Right, right. You can't have double vagina. No, no, no, no. That's a lot. Well, that's my hot take. Prime rib on Thanksgiving.

I'll do the ham, but I'm just not, I'm checked out now of the turkey thing. I think they've, I think they lied to us for years. We found out it was a lie, and now I'm not into it. And you know what? I like the prime rib move because my favorite side dish, maybe, of all times, a Yorkshire pudding. Ooh, that's pretty good. You get a good Yorkshire pudding. Prime rib goes great.

That does go great. What's your temperature of prime rib? What are we talking? Rare? I'm leaning rare. Yeah. Bloody. You like a little bloody.

I want it to be a little bloody. A guy that we work with, he likes it black and blue. Do you know black and blue? That's how he eats a sticks. It's still mooing. Yeah, it's a little... They're doing a sear around it, and that's about it. It's a hot seer.

They want it as hot as he can, and then an inside is dark, dark red. Yeah, it's cold. Yeah. Yeah, black and blue. Can't do that. No, no, no, that's too far for me. That's...

But I respect it. I wish I could be animalistic like that. Right. I feel like I would walk around, probably puffed my chest out a little higher. You'd be a little bit bigger. I would. That's my problem.

I don't gain weight. Yeah, you will, dude. Everyone's been saying that to me. You will, dude. I've said that for a long time, it'll hit. You'll wake up one day with a little mini spare tire. Like a little, you know,

the small wheel on a car? Yeah, it'll be like just the small wheel that gets there and you'll go what is that? See, I would love that. I would love a little size because I go to the gym

and nothing happens. What are we talking? Let me guess. You're six, how tall? You're the same height? Six one. Six one. And I think you're

closest wins dinner tonight. McCone, what's your guess? They're both going to be off. Go ahead. 145. No, that's wrong. No, that's wrong. That's wrong.

He's holding it different. It's 163. What is it? Right now, I'm probably at... I'm at a light point, though, right now. I would say I'm 150, 148. I'm in that... Split the diff.

Split the diff. Okay, dude, you got it. I'll buy you dinner. You got it, you got it. You're almost a spinner weight. You're spinner in the gay community. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad. When I travel and do a lot of work, I don't eat.

You don't eat at all? I don't eat when I work. Why? I don't know what it is. I get caught up in it. I think part of it... I don't know if this is. just a bad excuse but I think part of it is like I'm really ADHD and I'll get fixated and so I'll

go seven hours eight hours and then all of a sudden it's nighttime and I'm like I didn't eat all day I don't know how you did I have to eat I um that's I can't I don't I mean I need it I need it if I don't start the day with a couple cups of coffee and then a little something and grump man I'm gonna be a bad it's just not gonna be nice he knows he's felt it many many times I get hangary and then I lash out you know I don't physically hit him but I get emotionally well emotionally I've damaged him

tremendously right I can see it he wears on the face he really does that's why he looks old dude that mustache just popped out one day it just kind of formed in the midst of you going out of him yeah it just kind of started flowing uh tell me this because we talked a little bit before the show the BFFs podcast yes uh you and uh deep fried chicken fry. Yes.

Done. Over. Over. Over. Bad blood? No, no bad blood. Man, I feel like, are we going to get into a drink today? Do you want to have a cocktail? I think we might if we're going to get into a serious topic like this. Maybe we have a cocktail. Yeah, I didn't know you wanted to. We can do it. I mean, I assume because it's earlier in the day, the kid was not going to do it. No, no. You're going to go get some cups for us? This is great. East Coast time. It's drinking time. God bless, dude. I had no idea. I had no idea. There should be two on there. Are they not there right there? Check in the other room. They should be there.

I mean, the name of the show. It 100% is, but you know, a lot of, this is part of the reason I had a conversation with this, with one of the people that's working with the show, they were like, how often are people drinking now? And I said, this is the thing. Most of my friends are sober now. You're in that age. Yeah, because either kids or family or I'm 42, man. Like, we've spent many, many moons doing it. So a lot of guys in my, especially in the comedy business, dude.

A lot of guys, they hate party too hard, now they're sober. or we film early in the morning and people are like hey man I have to go pick up my kids I can't get hammered Or guys are doing shows at night And then podcast in the day

You can do that, that's fine They'll day drinks in a hundred percent Okay But if you're picking up the kids at school That's a little sketchy Right You know what I mean You can't pick up the kids hammered

I mean I'm sure people do that Definitely But that's more of a Canadian thing No, that is a Canadian thing We get introduced to alcohol young out there When did you first start drinking Start is different than like When I think I had my first

you know, drink of alcohol. What's your first sip? I was probably 13 or 12. Mom and dad? I was a family event. It was a Christmas. It was a Christmas. My cousins were feeding me rum and coax.

Oh, yeah. That's how it was introduced. What's your drink now? What's your drink of choice? Now, I like whiskey. Like, I like a whiskey sour. Oh, you like whiskey sour? Yeah.

Do you ever drink it straight and eat? Oh, yeah. You do. You'll have that. I'll have whiskey on the rocks. But I think the, I'm kind of in a, I'm in a cocktail phase right now. Ooh, you like that.

I do like the cocktail. cocktail menu. When you go out, you go, what do you got? What's the concoction you've made? Exactly. The first thing I'm looking at, a good spicy marg. A spicy marg is good. What is this? What is this? Oh, we got the cups are not here. Let you, these are great. This is funny. This is amazing. These are very funny. Oh, he covered up a little bit. Oh, that's true. No, that's great. You know, this is very funny. This is. Honestly, this is the first time we haven't had glasses in here in a long time, just because I was like, no one's drinking at 10 in the morning. I mean, let me pour it for you because

that's only fair. And we'll just do a little bit. And by the way, we're going to drink it neat. We'll drink it, we'll drink it as is. Just no, no ice, no ice, no ice, no nothing, just to, but you slow sip it. Okay. And I think you deserve this, uh, old Rip Van Winkle. It's 10 year. Have you ever had this? I've had a rip van Winkle. I don't know if it's that one. It's, well, this is a good one. Okay. I got this as a gift, uh, as many of these bottles are because they're, it's 107 proof too, so it's going to be nice and put some hair

on the chest. Yeah, it'll burn you. You might gain some weight finally after today. Oh, there we go. All right. So before I pour this, then we'll talk about the BFF's thing. Yes. But growing up in Canada, then what was the first... Do you remember the first time you got hammered? Yeah, yeah. Give me that. First time I got hammered, shout out my boy, Harry Sutherland.

Me and him, we were playing on the same. That's a little snifter. There you go. Harry Sutherland? This is the first time we've ever drank out of plastic cups on this show like this. This is great. I'm not going to lie. I mean, more expensive whiskey into... A plastic cup?

A plastic cup. Yeah, there's some bourbon guy that's like at home being like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Who cares, dude? Sip it slow. Cheers. C Camanche.

Cheers. And talk to me about Harry Sutherland. Oh, that's great. Is that good? Yeah. Yeah. Even out of a plastic cup. This is sacrilegious, I imagine.

People at home are going to be mad. No, there's going to be something. And you know what? And you know what? Furious. Not my problem. Hey. You're not the one getting invited on the show

drinking rip. No. That's on you. Pretty cool when you have your own show. You can do whatever I want. You can do whatever I want. And shout out to Harry Sutherland. If you send me a photo, we'll put a photo of them right here.

Yeah, we'll put a photo up. But anyways, he brought me out to his I think it was his uncle or aunt's cottage that they had and we went and slept in the trailer so you know no parent's supervision we kind of had our own trailer and they had kept all the liquor up in the top

cabinets bad move so of course the two of us we think you know this is this is going to be the moment this is going to be the night where we're going to go get loaded so we both start drinking the mix of drinks I mean we probably had like Bacardi rum with you know ever clear with it was just like

it was brutal you know like taking sips of everything trying to make sure the levels are all still looking good enough putting a little water in each one and then uh next morning we wake up and right away i mean both of us you know stressed out the parents are going to somehow find out aunt walks into the the trailer when she walks out after she passes the two of us and goes so you guys got into the top cabinets last night right kind of just lets us know in the moment and keeps on walking doesn't tell the parents we're there like shitting ourselves all morning long but uh yeah that was the first how old were you i think i was 13 13 that was the first time you got tanked that was the first but we would get given drinks to

go to parties as kids so like our parents even the strictest parents they would that the kind of thought process was like we're going to give the trust to these kids and then if they break them we take away the trust so everyone's parents would you know give their kids two or three beers to go to a party when they're in grade nine a grade like Canada in high school you'd get two to three beers the rule of my house was always like we'll give you your two beers you'd go to a party You're not allowed to stay anywhere else, though, after a party. You have to come home. So my parents would stay up.

I'd get home. They'd be at the kitchen table with a tea and a piece of toast. And I'd have to come home, and I'd have to tell the entire night to them. And they'd know how I am off two beers, or did I go and drink some other people's shit? And then am I able to keep going to parties? Do I have their trust or not? So that's how they would run it. And I think, like, that's how most families I knew would do it in Canada.

Wow. And it seems like, I don't know. I didn't see, when I came out to L.A. when I was 18, there were a lot more people that I saw that didn't know how to handle their alcohol out here than back home. Well, yeah. It's a cultural thing too, right? Midwest, I'm Chicago.

He's Minnesota. We kind of grew up with it, too. It was a very normal thing to have a drink with your family because then they kind of regulated how out of control you got. Were we sneaking extras big time? For sure. Grab your uncle that gets hammered. He falls asleep with the family function.

You snag his cock. Yeah, you got it, dude. You got it. I remember the first time there was a place called Lake Delo. that's uh in wisconsin shout at lake delavan it's lake geneva is the popular one lake geneva is kind of like where people with money go right lake delavan is um you know it's it's uh slow it's it's it's slower nephew it's not you know what i mean not all there took fourth grade twice type of thing yeah it's a little it's a little shaky it's a bad limp dude yeah and they

also never shaved the um uh the seaweed so all of the whatever kelp and everything that would grow you'd feel it on your feet when you went swimming which was gross yeah so but it was rad but hey but then i we went one night we're all staying in a little tiny cabin and uh my dad always traveled with a little um it was a flask but it was the big ones you know the plastic old big plastic flask it's got a metal top yeah and he kept it in this cabinet and one of my uncles was like go get your dad's we were playing basketball late at night because they kept the lights on and he was like go get your dad's whiskey and i was like dude he's gonna beat the shit out of me if i go do that like i can't do that and my uncle was like really you're

going to ruin the fun? And he put me in this position where it was like, I got to do it. And you want to look cool to your uncle too. You got to look cool to your uncle's the cool brother. Yeah, they're cool guy. Well, they got wasted. They got naked and went night swimming. And as a young little lad seeing grown adult uncles naked, you were like, God, I hope mine grows. Right, right. That's intimidating. Yeah, it sucks, dude. And they're like, you're going to get in? You could hold onto that thing and start swinging into the water like a rope swing. I was a rope swing. I sat in it like a tire swing. No, I was, they were like, you're going to get in the water. and I was like I'd get in fully clothed but I think my mom will get she'll be mad that

like my one pair of jeans I brought yeah are ruined that was my first like that was one of the first times I like got in trend then the next day my dad you know saw that it was all gone did not snitch I didn't snitch which is huge but he figured it out he was like who was doing it I was like no idea no clue and he's like I'm going to find out that you did it I said I did by the way no phones no cameras yeah how are you going to trace me pal great time how you're going to trace me there's no forensic evidence buddy you can't you can't figure out anything no just go and commit crimes back in the day a lot of people did yeah we i mean i think my uncles probably took off that night driving and went and did something bad for sure but who knows

and it's not my business by the way not interested not interested that was my first like what was the first time that you got too much where you had a little bit too much more than you should have like got got in got in trouble no where when you had a couple too many and you threw up like you knew it was one it was a big bad night you know um there yeah there There was a night when I was on a school trip. And me and my friends, we'd went to crazy school trip. We went to Italy. Uh-huh.

This is high school? This was high school. So I went to a public school in Canada, and there was a trip they would announce for, like, the seniors and juniors. And you would know when you got in your freshman year, whether it was going to line up in your junior or senior year. So you'd start saving up money. So me and three of my buddies did it. We'd go out to Italy, and, of course, we're getting drinks. Yeah, you have to.

high school trip we're all out there you one of us i think was even of age to be able to buy it down there it's like we're gonna go get alcohol this is something that's been going on on this trip for 20 years in the high school too everyone knows it um it's just the rule is don't get caught don't get caught so we get we get our drinks and you know we buy like a bunch of just high school beverages jack daniels like smear enough like all of that stuff and then we get a bunch of absence as well so we got the absence we're doing that and we're doing these shooters getting in the bus We're going back to the hotel. We're like, it's a perfect night.

We have free time. This is great. We get on the bus. They go change of plans. We're heading to the Vatican. Oh, wow. Hammered at the Vatican. So me and the boys are like, this isn't going to go well at all.

Let's make sure we leave our bags on the bus. We have all our alcohol. If you don't know, you go into the Vatican. It's a whole new country, right? Like you're going through TSA. You're doing all that. They go, yeah, we're switching buses. Bring your bags.

So now me and the boys are sitting there wasted with our backpacks full of alcohol thinking, what are we going to do? Like, we're going to get a. arrested going to the Vatican on the school trip somehow get to the TSA line I don't know if the guy just didn't care we were bringing alcohol in we saw he was kind of in a conversation with another TSA person bags get through we're scot-free so we just start kind of hanging out in the Vatican with alcohol wow make it through the night get home girl snitches on us we all get five-day suspensions from school after the what yeah girl who's this girl uh

call her up Ashley Ashley you know who you are come on man what was that about dude I don't know then it to make it worse all the girls went and got tattoos it's a permanent decision yeah it wasn't allowed either you're just blacked out at the Vatican that's not that big of a deal in a good time also are any of your friends good looking like you oh little drunk boys of the Vatican is dangerous yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah dangerous you know we really were putting ourselves in a bad position because you were a couple you know older men licking their lips sure yeah they're like boy would you like to come in the back and they see

something private you're like no no no no no no no no No, no, no, no, no. I would show you something special. I don't need to see anybody else's life. Only the body of Christ is entering this mouth. Only the body. Would you grow up in church? Were you a church kid?

Catholic. Hardcore Catholic. Alter server for a little bit. Were you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that's dangerous. A cute boy like you, that's? I was in enemy territory.

Are you fast? You always wore Nike's. I was always a quick kid. Yeah, you got to get away. I was a cross-country kid. So, you know, I would train in the church and then go win in the events. But, no, me and one of my best friends. he actually lived with me in LA for a while.

He was really from the church family. Like his family was like weekly. I mean like when we would go and play in hockey tournaments, he played on a better team than I did, so I wouldn't be with him. But he would go to hockey tournaments and then go to church in the morning before the games. What?

I mean like we're going to travel tournaments, whatever. He's making sure he's going to church. He'd have stories of like, yeah, there were no churches around. I had to go to like an all Asian church. Didn't understand a word, but my parents wanted to make sure I went to church. But you still have to go to church. He would be there every single Sunday.

Now, did this kid end up doing anything good in hockey? He was pretty good. He was pretty good. Not college or anything beyond. No, no, no, no. But he was a pretty elite player, played AAA his whole life. Did you have any friends growing up that guy? Because Canada with the hockey thing, man, it's crazy.

Yeah. Do you have any friends that went pro? I have a couple buddies that went and played pretty high level. I have some buddies now that are obviously in pros, but not any of the guys that I grew up with that I was, like, close with. Your school wasn't a breeding ground for hockey players. They were good. I mean, we won, like, we would win our kind of, like, states equivalent or whatnot. Quite often for hockey or, like, for our rep team, they'd go and win it all OMHAs.

But it was just, I think that a lot of the kids, we were really good when we were younger. I think a lot of the kids didn't grow big enough. Yeah, you've got to be thick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of kids went to other sports, too. Like, we have a couple kids, like, rugby was a big thing in my high school. Oh, yeah. So a lot of kids started, like, transitioning into other sports.

sports, I feel like. You gotta be, you gotta have a thick shitter. That's the one rule. I got a buddy who played in the league. I'm gonna mispronounce his last name. Dionnef. You know Dionne Funf? You know Dionne? Yeah, he's, uh, his niece. No, his, yeah, his niece is married to my cousin. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, he's at the wedding. He's the man, but he's got a dumper, dude. This guy, it's unbelievable. His legs and his butt are massive. That's what you need. Trunk. Skate power, though. Oh, man, it's wild. And that's how you get your core so stable. That's how you're gonna put on a good hit on someone. Also, I just saw a clip this morning when I was when I was getting ready

uh oh now I'm gonna mistake the name he caught a puck to the mouth and the tooth flew the whole tooth flew out yeah who was that was just a recent it was just in my feet it must happened like two or two or three days ago I don't know who it was recently it was slow-mo though you watch that happens all the time like the big like

Sydney Crosby he got one broke his jaw I think he 12 teeth got knocked out or something like that that's all I only have 12 teeth that's all my teeth but I saw the clip and like I've seen people get pucked before to the face But, God, dude, when you watch it in slow-mo and you see the tooth fly out of his mouth, you're like, the pain is on, who is it? Is it Charlie McAvoy?

Charlie McAvoy? Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Two fly in a free tooth. Also, it's kind of like a point of pride. It's almost like getting a medal for the military.

Yeah, spit in chicklets. Yeah, spit in chicklets. The boys. They're in town, by the way. They're in L.A. right now. No way. I'm supposed to meet up with them tomorrow. Okay.

But weather dependent, we're supposed to go out and maybe hack it around and play golf. I don't know if it's going to happen. I know. We got like, what's it called? An atmosphere river or something going on in? Is that what it's called? That's what I heard. No clue.

That sounds awesome. I'm going to start saying that. If we do play tomorrow, you want to go? I'll go out. With the boys? Yeah. I think that'll be fun. They're all in town.

I don't know what they're doing in L.A. We'll talk after the show, but maybe if it, the weather permitting, if we were able to play. Because those guys are the best. And the last time I played with them, I played with any of them at the internet? I played with Biz in Keith, actually. Yeah. at the internet but the last time I played

I played on their channel and Dave was my partner in the sandbagger I mean I probably played golf all of like 10 or 12 times in my life so I'd like to get a good little like rematch against what does Portnoy play golf I thought he doesn't play golf no he's not no he doesn't play golf no no no no he attempts it

right yeah well that's right he put it together for those of you that don't know we did the internet invitation which I got a lot of a lot of good comments and love from people people didn't understand though and this got put in Francis Ellis texting me the other night Because now the episode's out, we can talk about it. Everything's out. It's already over. You know who wins.

Everything's good. If it's a spoiler alert, you should already been watching it. Yeah, it's on you. But Francis Ellis texted me, because I had commented on his video after he did the celebration saying we won. I said, I'm still a little bitter because we beat them in round one. But then we won both of our matches, but because my team lost, we got eliminated. Yeah. Which sucks, dude.

No, I mean, that's... It's not fair. If I lost, we lost, but we won and still lost. Yeah. You almost wonder, like, should it have been more of, like, a... you get put into twos and it becomes a beat out tournament that's what I want

like yes it become a twos and then a beat out tournament I do understand why they do that for like the ranking system so somebody like myself can still be playing in the golf tournament they had me they had me ranked I think the third worst player in that tournament really yeah yeah yeah yeah true or no not even close who is the worst in the tournament

who is the worst in the tournament who would think was the lowest this is good gosh um the Duke would The Duke was surprising. Yeah, the thing about the Duke is he can put. He can put.

So as, like, a partner, he's not actually a bad player because, like, he can put and he'll hit a ball straight every time he's not going to hit it far. But if you shank a shot, you know, okay, I got one in the fairway, at least, right? So I don't know if I'd put him as the worst. I might put my buddy sketch down there, though. Sketch had a tough go. I might put my buddy sketch down there. But he doesn't really like golf anyway.

Yeah, he kind of knows, but I think he's kind of like a, He's more there for the talk. Yeah, he wants the, well, he wants the party and the vibe. Yeah, yeah, which is great, which is great. I think I'm better than Trent. Okay, I like this. I think I'm better than PFT. Have you gone head-to-head with these guys?

I think I'm better than Bob. I think I'm better than Bob does sports for sure. I beat him head to head before. Let me tell you something. This is, I love this. You're drumming up some shit, my guy. Who else was playing that? I think, man.

Who was a lower quality player at the tournament? I'm trying to think all the name. that were on the bottom half there were a lot of good golfers that's the problem there was a lot of people that could play golf I am definitely in the bottom quarter but you're but you're but I'm not last you're gun on I was I was mr. nobody I was last pick of the draft yeah that was a tough feeling most most most most followers on Instagram last pick in the draft yeah and that's that's almost like the most fair version of that how it would go I kind of was happy I

got picked last when I when I realized it because then I had no pressure Right. If I went out and played the worst golf of my life for three days, everyone's like, yeah, he was last pick. Of course. Of course he would. You did the opposite. And I played all right, go. You showed him. See, I played all right, I played. So the last day because we were off. We don't have any footage of this, but me and the boys went out and played just a quick little round. And we got hammered. Yeah. Like got hammered. And then on the last hole, in the 19th hole, where you're hitting on that island green, we were just sitting there having fun. and I think her name was Diane or Darla, the girl who was bartending there, and she was really sweet, and Witt was, you know, chirping up with her having a good time. And she kept bringing us shots. And so we just kept playing the hole because no one's coming up behind us. And then she's like, hey, there's a bachelor party coming up, just letting you guys know.

It's like a group of guys. And I was like, all right. They're going to love y'all. Well, I was like, should we get out? Should we just, let's go back up to the lodge. And Witt was like, no way, dude. We're going to fucking bat a money, dude. So they come cruising up.

And he's like, all right, dude, closest to the pin, $100 a guy. and then all these guys were like, oh, I don't know, man. And he, like, bullied him into it. He was like, come on, dude, you're not going to play? Like, what are you going to chicken out? And then so everybody was finally, like, everyone finally was like, all in. Like, we're all in.

So the whole group went and we pushed. I think we pushed. And then we beat him on the third. And the one dude was like, I don't have cash. And it was like, well, you got to get cash, dude. Like, that's how it goes. And he was like, no, just let us Venmo you. He's like, no way, dude.

Like, we're walking up to the ATM. And I was like, he's going to walk this. dude. He's going to bully him into it. I love it though. I mean, Witt will not let anybody get away with the thing. I love that though, but it was like, he was getting trashed in the tournament away. Yeah, he had fun. Like, I mean, like, but also like from the people. Oh, like, did you see the people's reactions to Witt? I don't, I don't read it. They weren't, they weren't loving them. And I was kind of, I don't know if it's just the golf community is so different than the barstool community. 100% and like the fandom, right? But like the Luke Kwan of it all.

Well, right. Him going after Luke was very funny to me. I thought it was funny. the moment as well and i i don't know maybe it's it depends how you like grow up or or what you're in but like i feel like growing up as somebody that was in like a locker room like playing sports that's like the shit you'd give your boys like you know what i'm saying if one of your boys showed up late to a practice and in and we're just talking practice you're still going to give it to the guy like you're still going to be like yo what you think you're fucking the shit you think you're better than all of us you have to show up dude like you're going to do that regardless i think like, I don't know, it seemed like people. Did he catch heat for it? I didn't see.

It seemed like people were, well, I'll say this. I'm on. Fuck Barstoolford making like Luke Juan. Like, he's a great guy. Like, people are going way too hard on him. And I'm like, yeah, maybe like, you know, there's a level to, you know, how hard we're roasting the guy. But it's like a fun moment. And then we can move on. Also, it was great for the internet. So I don't know what everybody's mad about. It created something. But Luke knew what he got into. He apologized I had saw. And I like Luke. I known Luke for a little while now. And he's a good kid. But like, I'm, I'm with Witt on this because Witt was angry that our team suffered.

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the way, people that really want to know, too, no, the whole thing was for a million dollars. So, like, Witt was like, hey, dude, you're, you're screwing up a shot for our team, people on our team to win. It's not a you thing. It's about a team. So that's why I think Witt's right. You would do, you would do that to anybody on your team. And he's a hockey player.

They give you each other shit. That's a part of the whole thing. 100%. And so when he told me, he was like, I'm. cooking, Luke. I was like, go for it, man. It was fun to watch. I'm eating a sandwich watching him and light him up. We were just sitting all at the table together, just listening to WIC, go crazy

on Kwanas. He gets back into the like, I don't know, the afterplace. But yeah, it was... Well, he got a post-game speech from Gruden, which was worth every... That's worth anything, right? It's great. Yeah. But we, I had a fun time down that. I do think if I go back next year, if it happens again the same way or whatever,

I think the rules need to shift, changes need to be made. And I also think to make it really fun. I said there shouldn't be someone that picks their team it should be a total lottery. Just names out of a hat. Names out of a hat.

Right. And what you would do is, same thing. You could have A player, B player, C player, or whatever. And those are three different pots. Yeah, yeah. But you put a name from the pot.

I like that. I like that too. Because drafting is great. I understand the draft, but it's more, it's more like, you know how in March Madness in basketball any man can win?

It's like any good, any team could blow off. Cinderella story. It's great. and that could be this instead of the drafts are you know they're very calculated and I felt like if it was more random then there's a better chance of having a great scenario story of someone choking you know yeah that's what I like we'll see there needs to be a way for an underdog to win has to be that's the best that's what we all want yeah yeah yeah but yeah next time we'll you know we'll see but uh and I also think pornois should play I think that'll be I think pornoid gets to do I even said I go I said a big cat I was like you should do required celebrity shots where he has to take one of your shots that may screw you up, it may help you out

but that's fun. That is cool. I think that should be more shaky. Game it up. Yeah, game it up. The PGA. We're not the PGA. We're not trying to compete. No, none of these guys are pros. Actually, that's not true. One guy was a pro. Yeah, Brad's a pro. Brad's a literal pro. And also, he should be DQed. You can't be a professional in playing an amateur tournament. Oh, it's well, I played with him. I played with him in the Creator Classic. He's too good. And we won, obviously. I mean, he, we were playing alt-shot, and I did nothing but hurt our team that entire time in that alt-shot tournament, and he just would, he'd pull, like, oh, we're behind three trees, I'm going to have to curve this around, 270, I got like 10 yards of a landing point.

All right, let me just hit that, bang. Did it. You just speak everything. He's nasty. God, no more pros. I would pay so much money to be able to play golf like him. Yeah, but you know what? You have things that he doesn't have.

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I like genders. So let me go backwards. We skipped over because we poured a cocktail. We did. Yes. BFS is done. It's over. over. And this is not a bad thing. It's a good thing. Not at all. Not at all. I think, you know,

when we, me and Bree went and like took it on for a year on her own and I really wanted to build out BFFs because for me, I own half of it. I'm different than kind of everyone else at Barstool where I'm not an employee of Barstool. I have like a joint venture with them. So for BFFs, that's a little bit of like a project that's been like my baby, right? And I, when Dave was leaving, I was like, okay, I think there's still value in this IP. I think there's still value in the socials. Like, how do we keep this going? So I was trying to do it with Bree.

And I think Bree has just went through so much, honestly, in the last year and, like, finding herself and figuring out, like, what her next steps are going to be and who she is and whatnot. That I think BFF's just honestly, like, it took a little bit of a back burner in the mind of kind of the creative team that was involved with it. And it just wasn't getting the attention or, like, it wasn't getting the level of dedication that it deserved and I didn't want to be like

I think me and Bree both had the conversation and it's like we don't want to ever be doing something just for like a check we don't want to be doing something if it's not fun it's not fun if it's losing its value or we feel like now we're you know doing a miss service to the audience as well like let's just let's just end on

a better note than trying to drag this into the mud so I think that's kind of the idea and I don't think that you know that means me and Bree are done doing content together I love working with Bree and I love getting to do stuff with her so I think we'll still do stuff together and I think BFFs will those socials and that will turn

into something new as well I don't know exactly what it is yet we'll see yeah yet to be yet to be told yet to figure it out maybe BFF 2 when it makes a remake like it's a Hollywood film yeah just bring it back but recast it we'll see who plays you 12 and it's just the equivalent if they recast it who plays you in the sequel

and who plays her it's going to have to be people that are kind of up and coming right yeah it's got to be younger some younger guys or someone really old that they're trying to They do that in film a lot too. They do do that. Who are they trying to revive right now? Who are they trying to bring back in movies big time?

You know who's making like a second swing of his career? Kind of is Decovne because he kind of was quiet for a long time. You know David DeCovney? Bring up a photo. Handsome guy. From the X-Files. From the X-Files. He also was Californication.

Did you ever see that show? Man, that was a good old show. He also plays a woman in Twin Peaks. Yeah, that's right. Decovney's a handsome guy, but he kind of like, he kind of got quiet. His queer career kind of got quiet for a little while. Now he's kind of, I feel like he's like popping back again, right? Who is?

Larry Sanders show. That's DeCovny, handsome guy. Okay. Can he play you? No. That's too old. I mean, he's just... Yeah, I know, but that's what we're doing.

We're going up. We're going like way down past. So, DeCovny will be you and Bree will be played by who? Who's someone that's making a revival in her career right now that's popping back again that went away for a while? Is there a woman that's making like a comeback, Pop? Not a lot of movies are making a comeback, really. Yeah, isn't that crazy?

Are going to dying, unfortunately. So no movies. We're done with film. Demi Moore? Ah, yeah. Okay, Bree can be Demme Moore. Demi Moore and David Decoveny. There we go.

BFF's 2, your new pod. Yeah. You guys just give them the creative, let them run with it. I mean, you're a business man, why not? Yeah. You have a bunch of different business ventures. You feel like you're, from the little I know of you, yeah.

I feel like you're touching a lot of bases. Like, what do you, what are you involved in? Yeah. I have like a venture fund that's definitely one of the main focuses. So we raised, we were raising 15. I think we got oversubscribed and did 18. so that's you know all venture we're pretty agnostic across the board and our investments anywhere we feel like we can really leverage we went about it in a little bit of a different way

i was 18 when i was raising the money for this so it was kind of like why would all these people give an 18 year old millions of dollars to go and invest right and not like just like a social media 18 year old too like i know the stigma i'm pretty self-aware i would say like i know the stigma around ticoters and especially at the time in covid to be like i'm a ticotker and i'm going to raise all this money and invest it wasn't the easiest thing to do so what i did was for all the lps like i just went out and got the biggest names i could get across the board of every single sector in either entertainment um in any like uh like investing world in bitcoin and i went and got like the winkelvoss twins or like thomas tall or i went and got mark walberg or i went and i just

got these people that were big names to come in and be the investor so then anytime i go and invest in a company, we usually sit in between the like 100 to 250,000 check size. So we're not competing with other venture funds. And they'll actually bring us into the deals, other venture funds, because they get the credit for bringing us in. And then we'll go in, going in like a 250 check size. And then we'll be able to leverage the 99, you know, LPs that we have that are all from these different worlds that there's always going to be someone that can help one of the

companies. And they want to do that because they're involved in the fund and it's going to help their money so the other funds get credit for bringing us in and doing all this good work then we get to come in without being competitors so everyone wants us in because we're not giving too much money like a million two million five 10 20 um and then we're able to go and continue being in all these smart kid huh different companies so that's that's one of them look at him and look at you did you didn't go to college no i dropped out high school and look at that kids at home you don't need to go to college this kid's successful all you have to do is be handsome and smart and nice and it's going to work out

You put your one foot in front of the other and it works out just fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's incredible. No, you said no to college because you went right into getting an entertainment. Yeah, so my senior year of high school, I switched into online, and then I just never did it. Did mom and dad, were they a little bummed? You didn't go? You guys call it university, don't you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's still college. But for a long time in Canada, college was seen as like that's where the dumb kids go. Is that what it is? Yeah, it was weird. In Canada, for a really long time, it was always like, you go to university. If you're smart, if you're 80s and above, you go to university. If you're like, not that smart, you're going to, you're going to college.

What's below that? What's below college? Because I was that. At the time, it was maybe a, like an apprenticeship. I'll do that. But now it's flipped. Now it's flipped. Like everyone wants to go into an apprenticeship.

Sure. Everybody wants to go and just get paid right at high school and then not have to get into crippling student debt. Yeah, why? Yeah. If you don't know what you're going to school for, why go to school? Why would you do it? My generation was probably one of the last generations that got to go to school.

And it was still relatively fairly priced for college. uh and and like the job markets were good yeah it was and you could get out and you didn't have to go to school for what your what your you know your focus didn't need to be what your job was going to be but you were going to be okay because the education would it would help you yeah yeah but i'm you know 20 years older like it was just a different time then and then now like my sister who's almost a decade younger than me i see with even her class of like you know it's just harder the job market's thinner so now i would say you know i don't have any kids if i ever had kids i would push him i'd say dude just figure out what you enjoy and let's focus on that. The school for a lot of people I know was a waste. I mean, I have friends and went to school for seven or eight years. Yeah. There's no... No, it's crazy.

Unless you're like a doctor. They're definitely not doctors. They know who they are. They're absolutely not. They need to go to the doctor more often. I'll say that just because of their consumption of alcohol and food. I don't know. It's another one of those, like, fake things that, you know, the government just pushed on us.

Like Turkey. This is an American dream that you need to live. Like, you're going to go to school, get good grades. You go to college. the your partner for life there you know you go and buy a house right out of college you have your job you have your kids and that's your life it's a blueprint to be happy but it's just it's not true thing from that's right you how did you how did you start what what kind of popped you off in ticot from the beginning then what was the biggest thing that like bounced you into the into this

you know yeah yeah viral world i mean i guess there was there was a few like of those like i guess aha moments right that kind of were like oh this is this is it this is it this is it um But I think what really started it all was the like I was doing live streams, which is funny that that's now kind of this meta again with like Kai Sinette and you see these guys that do these lives. But I was going live on, do you remember musically? So musically was TikTok before bite dance came in and acquired it. So it was the pre like have you ever heard of this is a crazy pull? Jacob Sartorius? No.

Okay, okay. Jacob Sartorius? Sartorius? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So he was like this huge guy on this. musically platform if you know like uh like sean mendes the musician sure he was kind of in that

air he was more in the vine days but like mag con this like group of guys very much like sway or hype house kind of situation they lived in that apartment together was it this thing yeah exactly i remember hearing about this yeah so um uh back then musically was the thing and i would go live and uh i did it a couple times just for fun like i was posting my sister posted me in a video on her account it got like a hundred likes we thought we were viral had a few comments on it from girls so I was like I guess I'm making it count you know um so then uh we started going live just because it was fun and these like emojis would start popping up on the screen and I'd be like what the fuck are these and somebody comments and they're like yo those are donations

like people are sending you money and I was like you can make money off this like this is very new social media right this is 20 2015 at the time so this is kind of like I didn't I didn't even know you can make money off social media and uh I I start going live with my sister. I find out there's a leaderboard list of the top 200 donators that updates every 24 hours on the app. They would actually post who was sending in the most money. So I'm sitting there like 13 and I'm like, okay, I don't need a million followers. I just need those 200 people every day. I just need those people. So I'd

give my sister, my dad's a high school teacher, so he'd have a high school assigned iPad. I download musically, give that to my sister, log into my account. She'd sit beside me. I'd go live for four hours from 10 to 2 a.m. every night. I'd give her a 15% commission based salary. She'd sit there and she'd go through that list of 200 and follow them and like 15 other videos with my account being logged in. So you get 16 notification from this random Josh Richards kid, be like, oh, he's live. His profile's blinking red. I guess I'll go join. They joined my live. I would know it was one of them

because their username was highlighted in red. And I'd be like, yo, what's up, Ashley? How you doing? And then they would send a gift. And then it was like, my sister would be like, we got them. And then it would just be doing that for like every night for four hours. My dad ends up thinking I'm selling drugs because $600 is going through his PayPal every night. So he's sitting me down like, you know, Josh, I'm no oblivious kid. I went to high school once too, and I get it. People like to do drugs. But, and I'm like, what, where's this conversation leading right now, man?

So then I had to explain to him what social media was. And he's sitting there like, so you're on live and people are paying you. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, and it's on video. Kind of sounds gay. And I was like, yeah, I guess. Well, I am doing gay stuff on it. Well, I got to get the money somehow.

Like, what do you think? And no, but he was like, well, hey, you're making as much as a teacher. Keep it up. So he was like, they were really supportive, both my parents. They instantly were like, okay, how do we learn everything we can about social media? How do we know, like, what this is and what you're doing? And they were always like that with everything I do. So it was great.

That's huge. And dad was a high school teacher? Yeah, how to this teacher. What about your mom? She was a speech path. So you came from some good stuff. Both very, like, they were very strict parents, but good parents, you know. But intelligent people.

Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, that's where your business acumen comes from. Yeah, the parents are obviously very smart. I mean, I think it was a really good combo growing up to have, like, numbers be, you know, implemented in me very young, which is social media, numbers game. And then also the speech path side is, like, communication. So it's really the world of social media is numbers and communication. So, like, I kind of came from the perfect parents for that. perfect storm they they yeah they were always kind of just like super strong on that they

were super strong and like great i needed to be a 90s kid if i wasn't i was you were in deep shit oh i was month not seen it you never not saw an a if i if i didn't it was like i'm going to be in my house for the next month besides school and that good god dude yeah i was mr b and a lot of c's but c's get degrees as far as my dad was good hey i mean once you know there's this trickle-down strictness that I find ends up happening with parents, right? They have the first kid, it's like you can't put sand in your mouth.

The second kid comes around, it's like, come on, spit that out. Third kid comes around, it's like, eh, dirt never really hurt nobody. Right. And the fourth kid, they're like, put sand inside of that kid. Fill that kid up with sand. Yeah, fill them up with sand. Like my brother, when he was younger, not to throw you under the bus. Throw him right under the bus. I'm sorry, man.

But he was like a, he was like a BC kid and they were just like, he's doing what he can. Well, you're first? Yeah. Well, they won with you. Yeah, they already hit the lottery. The other ones they were like, who gives this shit? They were like, you know what? We don't even need to start putting money in their school accounts anymore. Yeah, who cares? Well, how old is your, how old are your parents? My parents, my dad is 56. Okay, I was going to say. Yeah, yeah, my mom is. I don't know if they had you if they had you when they were young, but they were, no, no, they were, their normal

age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad was like 32 when he had me, I think. Regular. What do you, what about you? You think you're gonna, you think you're going to try at some point in the future? Down the row, do you want to be a parent and get married and do that whole thing? 100%. I mean, I... I mean, you're a long way from that. Yeah, I don't think, you know, I don't think I'll have my first kid until, like, 32. I like that age number.

Just around 30, yeah. I just think it's a good number. It keeps you, like, you're still able to be healthy enough where you can go out and, you know, be a coach or do the thing and be active with the kid. But you didn't have a kid at 24, you know? Right. Don't have a kid next year. No, that's not the plan. So, no, but I want four kids.

Like, I would be good with having, I'd be good with having, like, eight. You seriously? Oh, for sure. My God. I would, I'd spread the seed. You spread that seed, dude. With one woman. One woman. Sure, or, yeah. I mean, that's whatever makes you happy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you do. No, definitely wanted to be with one woman. Gabby's already, I think I've already found the lady. You think this is marriage? I do. My God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen you guys together online.

Oh, it's cute. It's very cute. The kids get together on the internet. Yeah. But now there's two sides of this coin, just to play devil's advocate. Because you see, you see what happens to a lot of people, especially like you're old, like, like Brie, who I don't know. I have no, I don't know her at all. But, you know, when your late relationships are public, it gets sketchy because the influence of the outside comes in to your relationship. Are you afraid of that hurting you guys at all? Because you're very public about it. Yeah, we are very public. But we've been very public since the beginning of our relationship. And we're over two, two and a half years now. So you're good. So I think we just, we just know how to handle it. And honestly, the best part about it is we've gotten better with it as times gone on. So it hasn't been like this like, oh, at the start, we were ignoring it.

And now it's building up inside of us and we're about to fucking unleash like Hiroshima upon each other. We got more of like, okay, we've done a better job of understanding each other as time's gone on. So I think it's only letting the right direction. Just don't let in the outside noise. No. Keep the windows and the doors locked. You know what I mean? Exactly.

That's the problem. I think that happens a lot in socially public relations. particularly in people that have grown such a significant following in social media like you. You know, like, I think a lot of times you see outside influence get involved and it starts to dart its way into your... Definitely.

Into your opinions, into your actions. And I think as long as you shut that shit out and just focus on what's making you guys happy, I think you're fine. I mean, you hear something too many times, right? It's going to... There's a lot of horror stories out there. Yeah, yeah.

And it does suck because the other thing is, like, we'll do live streams together a lot, right? So we go live and, people take a clip and they post a 10-second snippet from a, you know, three-minute bit that was going on. Yeah. And, you know, I'm very lucky where I've found a girl that has good banter. They're tough to find, right?

But I have found one that is actually, I find really funny. And she will go back and forth to me, and she'll give me shit. And I think that's hilarious. And we'll, you know, we'll pick at each other a little bit. But someone takes a 10-second clip of that, puts it out. And then they, you know, throw a headline on Josh Richards disrespecting or sexualizing or it's like, yo, shut up. Well, they're going to do everything is pulled out of context.

The internet, what do we say? Nuance is dead. Yeah. Context is gone. People don't, people, there's no need to see the whole thing because they've already met up their mind. Yeah. You know? Like, that's the strangest, it's the detriment of the popularity of, like, internet videos and interacting with, interacting with parasocial relationships.

parasocial relationships, people really do think they know you. You know, it's very strange. Or like they think they know what's best for you, which slows my mind even more, right? Like, you might know a lot of things about me, but you don't know, you don't know what's best for it. Right. It's wild. Yeah, that's crazy.

So, I don't know. It does get tricky, but I think a lot of the times how I look at it is like the people that are commenting those types of comments, they probably would have, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. like just attacking and negative. Those people probably would have never been a fan anyways, right? They're never someone that's going to consume the content or be somebody that I want to have in like the community of people that watch my stuff.

So at the end of the day, there's no loss. Kick rocks. There's no loss. No, that's also true. Ironically, on the other hand, some of those people are your biggest fans because they watch everything that you do. They're obsessed with you.

Yeah, I mean, talking about Brie, Brie has a Reddit snark page that has 30,000 active members. People commenting, about her all day 24-7. That's crazy. And I mean, they might be her biggest fans in the world because every time a story goes up, every time, I mean, she could tweet something and it's instantly uploaded in the Reddit and 30,000 people. It's pretty powerful. When you think about it, that's very odd to have that much power. Like, you know, and I again, I've never met her. I don't

know her. I only see what I've seen of her on the internet and through you guys in the show with Dave and everything. And it is, it's a, to see that from the outside, it is a bummer to watch like a public relationship go sour and then people have their opinion about it when particularly when most people at home don't have their own relationships together but they're quick to be like you know oh and i knew this that's because he's a dick or she sucks or whatever and you're like you don't know i always say you don't know what's going on in somebody's bedroom you don't know what people are like when they lay down at night when you turn off the live stream i don't know what you and your girlfriend are talking about that's a that's your world that exists separate of this other thing

but yeah and people forget how many people like put on a facade for sure right like that's the thing that blows my mind is like especially like in this social media world because in the in the acting world it's a little different because you're playing a character all the time right so you're not yourself ever right you need to show up as yourself for like press interview junket maybe when you go on a podcast and like the red carpet that's about it right but even then you're kind of putting on a show you're still kind of putting on yeah right like you're you're your you're elevating itself in that moment. With social media influencers, like, they're

putting on a facade so often, 24-7 in their lives. Like, you meet some of these people behind the scenes and you're like, who the fuck are you? Like, you're not the same guy at all. Right. So it just, yeah, no one really knows. You kind of cracked this mold. That's why I liked

you when I met you. I thought, I knew nothing about you other than I knew who you were, or knew of you of you. And we met and we kicked it that night, and I thought, you're a good dude, man. You're not you were different than what I thought social media world was going to be because I thought well he's going to be wrapped up in that bullshit

and that's fine because you know a lot of times those guys I see them out and about and they're full camera crews and they're putting on an act and all this stuff but there was no act no bullshit with you you came with who was that buddy that you came with Chris Satoe oh yeah that was yeah he's my so

the production company I have we run that together but good people when you keep surrounding yourself with good people it's a tell you know who you surround yourself with is going to be a tell over who you really are. Unfortunately, I surround myself with him and a few other scumbags, but that's only because it's charity work. Bobby Lee.

Bobby's a pig, yeah. You know what's crazy is a, I really wanted to tell you the story, actually. I went to a psychic. Okay. Recently. Where? Here in L.A. Here in L.A. Went to a psychic. And, by the way, so expensive.

Mm-hmm. A psychic? A psychic? Is it really? I've never done one. We had one live on the show, I guess, but we didn't go to We went for the podcast, right? We went for the podcast. But I don't know if they knew the podcast. They were like, okay, let's upcharge them a little bit. I think this thing was like $700 an hour.

For a reading? For a reading. $700? Ours was cheaper than that. The woman came to us. Reading. Like, I don't know what they better have read deep. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

You got to be right. Right. But now, she did, you know, sat down. She looked at me. She went, you're an angel. So she got me right away. She was hitting on your. right away the best seven hundred dollars i ever spent right i was like yeah yeah tell me about how great i am

uh but uh the one of the first things she she says to me is when she's looking into my eyes is she goes a little asian man and i went pardon me she goes you're destined you're destined to make incredible comedy with a little asian man a funny little Asian man and i went the only one i know is bobby lee yeah that's the only only one that popped into So I'm, I think I'm destined to me. You want to take over bad friends? Do it, man. I'm just saying I'm destined to meet him.

I'm just saying I'm destined to me. Take it over. It's a fucking nightmare. You want to do it, dude? Have it at it. Honestly, that's funny because our, him and I's relationship, which is, you know, for me, comedy, lightning in a bottle, I, you know, I've said pretty adamantly that I think it's the greatest thing that's ever happened in my career for the most fun-wise.

Just fun-wise, you know, like, it is very successful. It's great. but it's the most fun I'd ever had and it was just him and I kind of making up for lost COVID time you know that's really I mean you know that's kind of what we were doing was like well we can just do the show all the time

and fuck it we're not touring like so that's kind of what catapulted that show a little bit but we always got on so well and it was right under my nose like I kind of just we never thought about it we just kind of were we would always goof and we're really good together but sometimes I think

in this weird entertainment industry it's usually right in front of your face but it's hard to see and maybe it takes someone else and to her credit Kalila his ex-girlfriend she she was kind of the one truly that put that

that told us we should do it genuinely it was we had joked about it but she was like no you really should do the show together and we didn't want to step on toes because he had his show with that he had Tiger Belly and I was doing this independently and it just kind of happened she was really the catalyst for her like i give her a lot of credit she was one that was like why wouldn't you guys try and i was like i don't know we just i don't know

and has that now grown bigger than both of your solo podcast yeah that thing is yeah that thing is big we have a couple million subs i think and uh yeah right to something yeah it's great i mean yeah i feel like i always see it well the internet did to much credit to social media and and people the clipping was incredible we let the kids clip it to death i mean people had people were like can we clip it and use it and we're like yeah absolutely that's you know how much money some high school kids are making nowadays i like it good it's it is crazy well we got we got called did we talk about this one time we got called from a tic-tok rep one time at the very beginning remember that and they were like hey these guys are all making a lot of content on you we had like a um a fan pages that were making

your content yeah and this liaison was like hey man just letting you guys know because we had just started our ticot page i think or something and they were like hey you should um you should know these people are making real money on your yeah clips and i said well how much money are they making? And then she's like, oh, this is making a couple grand, this, this is making this, this, making that. And she's like, do you want us to flag them or bar them or remove them? I was like, no, that doesn't even make sense. I was like, I don't care. They can keep the money. They're making the clips. And it's also incredible promo. Yeah, it's great work. And the amount of money you're going to get recouped for those, like, from people stealing your content or whatever you want

to, like, label it as, the value there is so much less than the, than the promotion that they did it. Yes, yes. I was like, we'll take the, also, we used to say, like, uh, at one point, I came in and I said, dude, these kids that are clipping our clips are doing better clips than we're doing. Oh. So I was like, just copy their clips. These kids are already putting all the work. Just click download, repost their stuff. I was like, dude, let's just copy whatever some of these guys are doing.

There are kids in high school making over $100,000 a year doing clips. Just doing clips. Good for them. Amazing. I didn't have the opportunity. In high school, the only guys I knew they were making real money in my generation, you were selling drugs. Or you were selling drugs. You really didn't.

There wasn't. My dad wasn't wrong to question me in the way he questioned. correct by the way yes it made sense yes he's right it really did and i did sell drugs in high school and i i didn't make a lot of money i sold weed not drugs i sold weed yeah which is like kind of like soft it was soft it was just so i could make enough money to have weed right right you can't even really so i got free weed you can't really even call yourself a drug dealer i well i did not i would never i would never no i was a i was a i was a um a free weeder i just wanted free invest in drug dealers when I was younger.

You did? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was one of the things. You were a pimp? When I started making money with social media, I was like, man, like I want to make money with my money and how can I do that quickly? So I actually started meeting with like three or four of the drug dealers in my small town

and was like, so like let's talk numbers. Right. If I was to front you like five grand, 10 grand, what do we get? What is our profit here? This Pablo. What are we doing? I ended up not doing it out of fear and from the fact that I came from, you know, you know a white together family household and i was like i don't need to you want to go to

prison i didn't mess any of this up right you didn't want to go to prison prison would have been bad bad for me what do they call it what's that racketeering is that what he would have been involved in that was been the crime something financing drug dealers i think it's racketeering right probably probably i almost i almost was tempted to bet on polly market that uh brad dalky and them were all going to win the so invitation but i was like i saw those NBA guys go down for it and i was thought you know what maybe i won't don't want to be like I don't want to be like that, but I saw the polymarket odds. It was like, it was like before the last video came out.

I mean, you saw, there were only two options left. You could bet on beef. You could bet on beef or Francis to win the invitational. And it was like, if you put down 10,000, you were winning like 15. And I was like, it's immoral. It didn't feel right. You don't need to do that. It didn't feel right.

No, what is it? Is it racketeering? Was that right? what is that mine just said money laundering when I looked it up maybe it is laundering money yeah yeah yeah no yeah I could

you can't do that but and also rest in peace beef a man who I didn't really know I only met him through that very moment in time yeah I got to play nine holes with him so it was great I'm really happy like I got to do that you know um just a just a guy you could tell was a light you know what I mean yeah like you could tell

every time he walked in a room like everyone loved him yeah he seemed extremely sweet and you know what sucks about that is and this is you know this sounds like you want more? You want some sauce? I'll take a little more sauce. Yeah. It sounds it sounds like I'm... Do you want more sauce? I don't want to drink a lot. Yeah, no, I will do. This sounds like I'm placating, but we say this in the comedy world

when somebody dies, you're like, why him? There's so many other guys that could have died that I don't like. Why didn't it have to be a guy that I like? Like, that was the most... Whenever someone in comedy dies, it's always a guy that you go, that guy's rad. Yeah, because there's a lot of bad guys in comedy. There's so many dudes that could die and I'd go, okay. Yeah, thank God. Not going to miss that guy at all. Yeah, right. So it is true that God takes the good ones for some reason but that guy seems very nice they're too good for this place that's a good that's a good that's a good perspective let's look at it that way they're too good they're too

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Religious is a tough word. I don't, I would say. Don't tell me you're one of those guys that's in L.A. now and goes, I'm spiritual. No, no, no, no. No, I grew up, I grew up Catholic when I was a kid and then a Presbyterian, which is like diet Catholic. It's like Coke Zero for Catholic. Are you a Coke Zero guy?

No, but that's a Catholic. kind of what it feels like because it feels like it's close to the product but it's not the same thing it doesn't taste as good the payoff isn't probably as good just drink regular coke in my mind well but Presbyterian we just have a longer line to get in that's all it is you know what I mean you guys kind of got a like oh you got to like check your coats it's like well it's like we we Presbyterians are allowed the the the we don't have priests they have ministers and they're allowed to get be married have children have a happy family which I'm very

pro the Catholic thing was very weird that it's like Let that guy get married, man. I don't get it. He's fuming, by the way. Yeah, let that poor guy get married. Let the guy get married. He's like, I married God. It's like, that's not a real thing, dude.

Just have a family. Get a nut off. So that's what I like about the Presbyterians that my... It's safer for everyone. It's nice. Let the guys be happy. In fact, my parents had had a minister couple that was a husband and wife that both switched off giving sermons and stuff, which I thought that was real, that was red.

And Christian, it's the same too, right? Well, Christian, big umbrella. Christian's everything. But I mean, like, Presbyterian or I think maybe Lutherans like that, maybe, or one of the two, Methodists, my dad, was one of those other ones down south. There's no other one but Catholic where you can't get married, though, right? As the priest? I don't know. I'd be ignorant to say, I know.

But I don't, he can look it up. But I know, I know that. And that always bothered me because the priests were always in a bad mood. In fact, when my grandma died, a couple of us were cracking jokes. We're Irish. That's what you do when people die. And the priest didn't even crack a fucking smile. And I was like, take it easy.

Well, the Catholics, they're harsh, man. It's more about, like, I find, like, when I was going to school in a Catholic school, because in Canada, we have public-funded Catholic schools. Oh, they're not private. They're not private. Oh, that's interesting. So, like, we go to Catholic school, and it's public. So I went to a Catholic public school, and they would teach us more about hell than heaven.

Yeah. It's like they want to fear. They want you to be scared. Yeah, that's right. They want you to be fearful that if you make the wrong move, you are going. going to hell and you are going to burn forever. It's not like, be a good person because you're going to go to heaven. I find it's very like, be afraid because you could go to hell.

Yeah, you might go to hell. You're jerking off, you're going to go to hell. Or you're going to be blind or something. And it's like, I'm in junior kindergarten. I don't even know what jerking off is yet. No, wait until you find out, though. You're going to love it. Well, see, what's interesting about going blind from masturbating, my vision is getting worse as I get older.

So that does kind of align. Right. What they should have told you was it's a sliding scale. Like, you won't go blind the first thousand times. It's like the opposite of carrots. It's going to catch up to you. Well, I eat carrots while I jerk off, so I'm trying to offset it a little bit. Then you're probably batten.

That's also why I'm orange. Yeah, I think so. I got 20-20 vision, kid, just because those carrots. Tell me, is it the only one where the pre-were the, the, the, the, the, the, I got it. I could see maybe monks not getting married and stuff, but that's my choice. Protestants. Protestants, they don't allow, and it's just Catholics and Protestants. Yeah, yeah, Catholics and Protestants.

Yeah, so to go, but to answer your question, what, say it, go ahead. It only became a rule in the 11th century. So before they were getting married. So why did we change it up? So why did we change it up? Since the Gregorian reformed the late 11th century under the... God damn Gregorians, man. I'll tell you why they changed it up.

I'll tell you why. Because one guy, one priest, couldn't get laid, and he was like, You know what? We shouldn't get married at all. And everyone's like, what? No. Yeah, that... That vagina's probably taboo for the Bible. Chicks are probably gross anyway, right God? They're like witches, so...

I had a dream. God talked to me and said we shouldn't do with chick stuff anymore. I saw a burning bush and he said no more bushes. No more bush. He said, yo, the bush is not the move. And they're like, well what about shaved? He's like, no, no, no. That's not going to be around for so long

anyways, guys. We don't even have to worry about that. Ten centuries away, man. By the time that comes around, who knows? So we're not, I wouldn't say religious because I don't I think it's a vague term. But I have my belief system and I believe that I believe that I'm a tiny little bullshit dot on something much more powerful and grand than me.

I can't really define it. I get that. But I know that. You think that there's a greater power. Oh, well, I think it'd be hard to deny that. Right. I mean, I'm sure people do. But I'm saying there's atheists.

Yeah. Well, that's silliness to me. There's people that think you just die and die. That's it. Sure. Okay. But also that's insane. I think that's why. Yeah.

It's the same way I look at like a microwave. You're like, I don't even know how that works, but it does. Do you know what I mean? It's like, well, there's got to be something. Holy shit. I can't explain half of the things on Earth. But I'm like, if I can see the things that I can't explain, there's got to be something that I definitely can't explain.

I mean, I don't think the mind can encompass. If we use such little of our brains, imagine if we could use it, we'd probably start to see more than what exists. I thought that was all bullshit. I thought that whole, like, we only use like 9% of our brains was like a bullshit thing. It's real. Is that real? Oh, yeah, dude.

It's fake. You can only use a certain. amount at any given time. You use all of it. No, no, no. Yeah, no. This is kind of like, these are two things getting conflated. You only use a small percentage at once.

What it's saying is it's impossible for the brain to be used in completion at one time. It's impossible for like, it'd be like saying, you know, only one section of your heart is working right now. Well, we're using, you're using the whole thing. This thing is pretty dynamic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can only use a little bit of it at once.

Imagine if you could use all of it at once. we'd be we'd be we'd be floating right now we'd be levitating we'd be levitating talking about flying I saw you and now you see me three last night oh you watch the movie when the guy flew away from you you went oh shit yeah yeah yeah yeah I was it

I didn't see it was good I gotta go watch it it we gotta go as a family you what was your bert what was your character's name oh I don't remember isn't that funny I should know he's like a crypto bro is what the pitch was yeah he was a crypto bro it was a crypto bro they were like and I was ripping people off or something

I should look up the name of my guy. Pump and dump. Classic pump and dump. That's what you were doing. Stole the money from the people. And then you dumped all yours, so everyone lost their money. Right. They went and did their, you know, horseman act.

I won't even be in the... Look at, I'm not even in the fucking cast. I actually looked it up this morning. Not even in the cast. Is that why you have a bathroom, not in your studio? That's correct. Yeah. Well, we do that because I don't want to smell your shit.

That's why we were like, no things. I was just taking a piss, man. I wasn't going to come here and then fucking take a shit. My guy, I have no idea. what you're up to. Brett Finnegan. Are you getting here and shit? 100% are they not?

All the time. Brett Finnegan. I thought it was Brett Finnegan. Good guest, dude. How was the film as a whole? Be brutally honest. Yeah, brutally honest. It's okay.

I thought it was, I thought it was good. It was not bad, huh? It was not bad. It was what you kind of want out of like those movies. I think, was it better than the earlier ones? No. The early ones were pretty good. I like the first two more.

What I will say is I thought, thought, like, it tricked me, which I like when I get tricked as an audience member. I find that's really hard to do in movies nowadays. Like, the audience is pretty intelligent. Yeah. So, like, when it came out, I kind of knew it was going to happen the second before it happened, but I didn't know it was going to happen until that scene came upon. So I was excited about that.

I think there were a couple of the moments where I was like, they're cringy moments, but it's a magic movie. There's going to be. It's supposed to be. There's going to be those moments that's like, you know, like the guy's like, you know what guys I think we need to do this you know when you're kind of just like

it's like Disney Disney show yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah very Nickelodeon you you kind of are like you're watching a movie about magicians take on a diamond thief like there's gonna be those moments it's gonna be corner yeah yeah like the diamond the diamond lady like that's the main villain like there's a moment at the beginning where she like shoves a dot

like she asked one of her employees to open their mouths and stick their tongue out and they're like what and so they'd do it and she sticks the diamond in his mouth and it's like see the value of a diamond is 30 million dollars but if it kills him and he swallows it it's priceless isn't it and everyone's just kind of like well yeah yes yes yeah what's that even me like it was like one of those like they're trying to make like a bond villain they're trying to make like a really badass villain but i felt like it was it was it rosamund pike is that her name i don't know the actresses

name she did a good job in the i just think that there were a couple of those moments right where you see it and you're kind of like that's kind of a cringe moment but you get into it it's a movie I do you know what's so funny is I didn't I admittedly I hadn't seen any of them I watched it when I got a call to do it and my friend who directed it was like

hey we're doing this movie in Budapest do you want to go to Hungary and I was like I don't know let me ask my wife I was like should we go to Budapest is that kind of the anytime you get the call it's if I yeah I want to know her I want to get her gauge on is this worth it do we want but it's also

like do you want to take a mini vacation like do you want to rock out how long have you guys been married nine years and shit's going great i mean you know we're we're old and it's shit that's a weird no shit it's shit it can relationships are shit but they're wonderful but they're shit right but yeah nine years but no you have to your your career at some point um you know it's got to be shared in this world of like i don't if i'm traveling a lot which i do for stand-up you know you start to get more cognizant as you get older of like do you want to do this together do you Do you care if I do it? And, you know, what can we do to make it more fun for us?

So we took a vacation. I told my buddy, I said, we'll go. We'll do a couple days of shooting, and then we want to travel. So then you can shoehorn fun into work. I mean, the funny thing is I talked about a buddy about this yesterday, about being retired, so to speak. My friend is, he's in the Marines, and he was talking about, you know, he serves another six, and he's going to be home free.

He'll be, you know, be able to retire. What's that six look like, though? Well, he's a, he's an attorney. He's an attorney in the Marines. in the Marine Corps. So his world is very unique, very unique. And he gets bounced around all over the place. It's cool, though. But he was like, I don't know, you know, we'll see what it looks like and then possible retirement and then move on to something else. And I thought, this is so funny, we don't retire in this business. No, it's not a, it's not a real thing. But we get to live

like a retiree now. You pretty much do it until everyone calls you irrelevant and then you kind to just float around. Just me, they're doing that already to me. So I'm just, I'm done. I'm knocking those out of my way, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I mean, you just got to keep doing it until it's stop fun, it's stop, until it's not fun for you anymore. That's a really cool part about this, right? It's like as creatives, you, you do it until it's not fun. Yeah, and then you switch up what you do. And then go do some other shit.

Yeah, that's the thing. You just, you know, what does it look like at the very, show me in your mind what your life looks like in the latter half of your years. Like, what would be the perfect world for you to go, you know what? This is what I would love to have happen. At Vandal Casino, you get even more ways to play. dive into new and exciting games and all of your favorite casino classics

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in the latter part of my life for career like give me an age let's say when you're like in your 50s, 60s, like, right around there. Like, let's say 55 to 65. What does that look like? Which for you is 80 years from now. Yeah, 55.

So when I'm 55, you know, at that point, I'm hoping I am, I'm probably, I'm probably, you know, third or fourth kids getting out of the house at this point. Sure. I would say, right? I would say, really what I want to be doing is maybe like, I would like to be doing a lot of back end stuff at that point. A lot of like BTS stuff. Like I would like to be doing like more producing and directing at that point. I would like to be still involved in the investment side. That stuff is just a lot of fun to me to like stay kind of a part of the present future.

Like you get to kind of be a part of both with investing. I think that's really fun. And just getting to talk to new founders always always intrigues me. So I think that's something I'll forever do. Acting is something that I've gotten more and more into as the years have gone on through my life. like even from a young age, I've just continued to have more and more love for it. So I think being able to do that when I can would be amazing. I think the only difference that would really happen is, you know,

I don't think I'd be doing thirst traps. No more thirst traps. I think that's eventually got to stop. You don't think you'll be a 55-year-old guy showing your abs? Oh, I wouldn't be showing my abs. I just said I wouldn't be doing thirst traps. Correct. You know, they might be getting watched in a different way.

Sure. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Or, or you become the most popular guy on only fans, which I've talked to you about. I've said at dinner, you've got to do it, dude. I'll take, I'll be the photographer. A lot of people have offered to be the photographer.

I want to be. And if I didn't think you were attracted before, wait until he starts yabbing about money. I mean, I'm like, this guy, hot, smart, young. Good God. I said nine years of marriage, but I might shift and come be your full-time photographer. I'll pull you over. Can I stay at your house? Yeah.

Great. You got hell of rooms. I just kicked out two roommates. Oh, you had people living at your house? Yeah. Friends? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm young, so, like, I don't want to just be alone.

You don't want to be alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But does she live with you? Your girlfriend? My girlfriend, pretty, okay, so she has, this is the thing I love about her so much. She is, like, so not about, you know, when you get into this world, you sometimes have to worry a little bit about, like, is somebody with you for the money or not? Sure. I know how much she isn't because of how, how, this is going to sound like a diss, and it's really not.

I'm trying to give love to Gabby right now She is not smart with money in the slightest She doesn't know what money is And I don't know if that's because of like how she was brought up Or what it is like she wasn't she does not come from money She so I think money for her just isn't important It doesn't matter It doesn't matter in the slightest right like that is not

Like she has an apartment that she's renting right now for example And Gabby has done really really well in this last year like she's Victoria's secret model this year did the runway like she's she's really been picking it up but you know to waste money to waste money is still silly regardless sure this girl has like an apartment she rents like a nice apartment that's by the way three minute drive away from my house she's spending thousands of dollars a month on this rental space I think she has spent maybe 10 nights why don't you just tell her to move in all the way what's the difference I would say, like, yo, live with me.

Just live. You already live with me, right? Like, you just have that apartment for storage, essentially. Just get a storage unit at this point, right? Like, it's way cheaper. But she's like, I want to feel independent. I want to have something that's mine that, like, if I want to, I can go to, if my mom comes into town, I don't want to have to say, Josh, can my mom stay at your house?

My mom comes into town, or my friends come in from Brazil and I fly them in. I don't want to have to say, Josh, can my friend stay? That's nice. And it's kind of, it's kind of relieving to have that person that's. It's like, they just, they don't, they don't care at all about that side of it. Well, she's thoughtful. She, she, she, that's a good quality to find in a part of someone that thinks about other people other than themselves. That's truly what she's being is selfless going, yeah, in case I don't want to burden other people.

Of course. With my bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you got to have her move in. It will happen. It will happen soon.

Yeah, make it easy. And also, I'm kind of like, you know, you could give that 3K, 4K to my mortgage. I mean, like, you know, you want to invest in me. Slide over here. I mean, let's go. What is good about still. live in a different places. Like when we were still dating, I remember like the, you know, like the excitement sometimes when she was like at her place and was like, hey, I'm going to come

over. Yeah. See, that's fun. It's hot. It's hot. Yeah. I do like that. Like, there's something about that. That's, it's kind of like sexy and like, you're like, oh shit, I'm, I'm going over to her house at 12 o'clock. I'm getting a booty call. It's fun. Yeah, that's hot. Yeah, that's fun because that does go away. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys have kids? No, we have no kids. No, we can't have kids. We tried. We try for a long time. Now I have a 54-year-old Korean guy and a 26-year-old. I'm sorry, dude. These are my children. These are my kids. Do you guys, did you guys ever think of like adoption? Yeah, we thought about it. Yeah, we thought about it. Or is it like, you're still in the thought process? Yeah, we still talk about it all the time. It's like a never-ending

conversation. Do you think it'll ever happen? I don't, I don't know. I really don't know. It's kind of like, it's contingent upon my life here in L.A. So we continue this show for a year or two more, then we probably, it's more likely that we will. But if I stop doing the pods in the next couple of years, then we'll move,

then probably not. You think stopping the podcast would cause you not to get a kid? Yeah, because I, because. That's strange. I felt like it would be the opposite of my head. No, because I think then would be like, not an early retirement,

but like, because by then in a couple years, I'll be in my mid-40s and I would think we would, we kind of had talked about selling a lot of our shit and just bouncing around and just, kind of living a little bit free yeah traveling a bunch and then like not having like a house not having a permanent residence no it'd be really rad to just kind of like fly a little bit because we've been spending the last you know again i don't know if i could do that man yeah well but

think about this i'm 20 years older like it's a different i had a whole but i love home you do i love home i don't really like are you are you traveling a lot right now like all the time i'm assuming you are i'm leaving an hour to go somewhere else okay so like i i am so ready for the point of my life where I get to stay in my home that's in a golf community and I golf and I'm have a membership and I'm a coach and that sounds like a dream you want to be a dad already that sounds like a dream yeah no it's I I've always been a busy body I can't sit still and so I don't the travel is fun for me yeah I like new places new experiences new people like I kind of I don't have any I don't have a lot so when I when I was a kid and my mom was a single mother I think this is

the reasoning and she met my stepdad uh we moved from downtown chicago from the city to the suburbs and then you were mainly raised by your stepdad yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's how my dad was too so i was raised by my you know i was raised by my stepdad and my mom and when we moved to the suburbs um i always kind of felt like it was nice but i was like i don't it never felt it was more of a house than a home you know my instinct is always like house over home yeah because i always wanted to go and do stuff i was never really a kid who was like i'm a home body and i'm at home it's just a house it's just a house it's a place to sleep at night. Yeah, I guess I'm not saying like I'm a home body. Like I'm somebody

that just wants to like rot in my house all day long. I just think it's more of like a place to go back to. Yeah, there's something nice about having a yeah. Like I don't know there's to me it's like I always find my my favorite my my only flight that I like more than leaving LA is my flight coming back home. Oh okay. Like that's the only flight I like yeah I like taking off. I love coming home. I get home. You think food. is better in other parts of the world depends on where you go I think food sucks everywhere else you've been to Japan no it's rad well I I okay so I think Japan probably has great food it does I think Japan probably has great food but even like also

put me on a boat and give me seafood in Italy say less I'm gonna be honest I've been in Europe so many times I'll be sunburnt all day long food and I'm like yeah I get it I know what you mean you're accustomed to this stuff well who has better food America or Canada go Go ahead and say it. Canada. Quality? You're crazy.

You're crazy. Like grocery store food quality? No, just who has better food, restaurants, who has better meals? Oh, restaurants is different. Now you're talking two different genres. Well, but I'm not saying... Who has better at home cooked? I cook.

I cook my... Now I'm coming over. Oh, dude. You're cooking me a meal. Do you want a meal? Are you gonna go to his house with me? I'll cook everybody a meal. What do you guys want?

What do you guys want? Do you want... I want chicken cordon blue. Do you want... Oh, cordon blue. I want chicken cordon blue. Okay. What else do you want?

Wellington what do you want oh yeah what do you want I like a good walking taco okay yeah yeah yeah I have a great talk of recipe it's not that I do a I do an incredible mango salsa with nice like steak taco what about fish tacos so you oh I can whip up a fish and my wife's been making basque cheesecake do you know what this is I do know what basque cheesecake is my God it's good it ever good dude it's good this is her third go-round she tried it once she didn't like like it, I ate all of it. Tried it again.

She didn't like it. I ate all of it. And then the third one, she's like, now this is perfect. And last night I had two massive slices. I'll eat vast cheesecake every day of the week. I'm going to put you on right now if you haven't heard of this. This has been something that I showed my lady and she's been obsessed with it since. Score dip.

Score it? Score dip. Score dip. Have you ever had scored? What is score dip, dude? Okay. So I think score might be a chocolate that is only in Canada. and that is why it's not very big in the States.

But I believe the American version is Heath. Yeah, Heath bars. Yeah, we have Heath bars. Chocolate cover toffee, right? Correct, yeah. So, incredible recipe. It's super easy. You pretty much just whip cream cheese with brown sugar, right?

Cream cheese brown sugar, whip that up. Put that as the base. Then you go caramel. Caramel over top all of the, all of the cream cheese. Right. And you want a big glass, a glass kind of a tray for this, right? I got it. And then crunch up that Heath bar.

Like, get Heath chipped pieces. Like Heath pieces. We use score. It's better. But whatever. You can do it with Heath. Get the Heath. Sprinkle that up.

Like, you don't even want to see the caramel anymore. You want it to be just full heath. If you're buying the bars, just hit them with a mallet or something. Heath, take some green apples. Green apples. Dip them in that. That's lights out, huh? Score dip.

I am telling you, you'll have a mouthgasm. Okay. It's going to happen. Well, let me tell you something. Score Dip is about to get investigated over here at the Whiskey Jeter Studios because I'm excited about this. And I want to say this. I appreciate you coming on the show. This has been awesome.

Tomorrow, I'm going to hit you up to maybe see if we'll play with the boys. Go play with the chicklets boys. Otherwise, we do need to golf. When the weather gets nice, you're here, we need to golf. Whether or not we get out tomorrow, let's go play. We got to go play. Where do you play? I'll tell you off camera.

Okay. Yes, good point. Yeah, you get it. Keep it a little secret. Where to, where to, uh, I'll, um, probably Encino Balboa. Yeah, I used, you know, I used to go over to, uh, rest in peace. I used to go over to, um, uh, Woodley? Woodley? No, no, what's wrong with me? Right off of Whitsitt to go hit balls. Uh, there, it's closed down now. Um, there's the old driving range, right off of Witsittsit in Studio City. I don't know that one. Um, God, am I losing my mind? It's with a W. Uh, Weddington. Weddington. Weddington. Yeah.

There's a great old driving range. I used to go hit balls there. night's little baby part three course they ripped it down for harvard west lake shout out harvard west lake corporate always wins yeah man the dollar always wins but we'll go play that's it uh and we end the show the same way uh do you want to plug anything specific before we rock man i i don't know just josh richards everywhere um doing a lot of twitch streaming so josh richard come see the kid on twitch i guess and then hopefully maybe a new bff pod will reemerge from the birth of the future maybe we'll see we'll have to get you in um it's not coming out in the near future But season two of Read the Room, my sketch shows coming out.

Say less, I'll be in it. We'll have to get season three. Make the call. We've already filmed season two, so we'll have to get you in season three. I met you after, sadly. That's fine. We end the show the same way. You look into that camera and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode.

Something that will sit for history as the... I think we're going to put this in the Smithsonian at some point, right? All these. Wow. So one word or one phrase into that camera whenever you're ready to end the episode. Make it count. Make it count. If you're going to be an altar server,

make sure you know how to clench. In here, we pour whiskey, whisk, whisk, whisk, whisk. You are that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy and ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Ginger's a fugitive. You want me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse. Ginger's all hell now.

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